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>>5670537
That's not that bad honestly.
>>5670551
Didn't even have hands.
The Titans Return wait continues.
Forever.
>>5670563
>tfg being this impatient even with announced release times
Never surprised.
>>5670563
We still don't even have Groove (and maybe Blastoff) yet.
One thing at a time, Anon.
>>5670569
I didn't hear about that, will they be out before sdcc or after?
>>5670578
>We still don't even have Groove (and maybe Blastoff) yet.
Speak for yourself.
I don't see any reason why this guy wasn't released stateside initially. Don't get me wrong, Rook is cool as shit, but there's nothing overly complex or fragile about Groove that would have prevented him from coming out.
>>5670598
There was nothing like that preventing it. The drop test shit was a joke.
>>5670554
Scramble City limbs at least has a certain charm in that most are just pull/fold out the legs and pull out the arms. At least they're identifiable as humanoid robots unlike >>5670551
>>5670618
well it's not like the Diaclone van was meant to be a humanoid robot when they came up with it.
Just think of how much fandom crying would've been spared if the animators had only stuck to the toys a bit more.
>>5670623
Ironhide would be a piloted mecha by other characters?
>>5670615
the real reason? Hasbro knows their idiot fanbase will double dip if they make a new team member then release the proper one a few months later on.
>>5670624
Basically just Spike and daniel's suit, but earlier.
>order something on ebay
>its been 4 days and still no shipping notification
come on nigga
>halfway through the month
>still no groove
>"may madness"
>>5670758
Are you mad yet?
>>5670761
yes
>>5670756
>order bunch of expensive shit
>normally get shit within 4 days
>ships within 2 days
>travels along normally
>suddenly
>goes to bumfuck nowhere, USA
>sits there for 4 days fucking days
>finally moves on
>2 days later
>oh great, another bumfuck nowheresville
>sits in the next place for 5 fucking days
>on the 6th day call USPS custserv since my shit is like 9 days overdue
>apparently they just left my package sitting there forever for no fucking reason because they're a bunch of lazy cunts
>3 more days, it's finally here
>brand new, sealed item turns out to be missing it's weaponry, whatever poor chinese worker obviously wasn't whipped enough to stay awake when packing my toy
>>5670758
But Anon, the madness part comes from us being driven mad waiting for Groove to drop, probably sometime during the work day so only scalpers can claim him for 800% markup on eBay.
Who /Mayhem Attack Squad/ here?
>>5670771
I can't realistically afford over priced repaints of toys when my masterpiece collection is growing, but have fun, least you can play with yours, too scared to break my mp megatron
>>5670771
I would be if it was.
>>5670537
Wait, how did the camera even keep up with him to take that pic?
>>5670776
Not him, but I'm too scared to touch some of my regular figures. G2 Silverbolt is a paint chip nightmare, with tons of areas that are going to chip if I transform him too much, the other G2 Aerialbots aren't perfect in that regard (you can't move the wings too much or you'll scrap the tampos, so you have to stop before you get to that point, plus the painted rubber nosecones, and friction paint loss on the silver of both Slingshot, and Fireflight if you transform them too much), but at least I'm not too terrified to touch them.
>>5670771
I do wish to pick up Needlenose and maybe Spinister sometime in the future.
>>5670779
stay autistic, transfags
>>5670598
>there's nothing overly complex or fragile about Groove that would have prevented him from coming out.
Those where lies Hasbro apologists told themselves.
>>5670790
he's right though.
its like buying ultra magnus and calling it optimus prime or hotrod and calling him rodimus prime
>>5670792
Nah, it was shit stirring and rumor mongering we do here to make transfags freak out. I do it all the time. there's a bunch of rumors I've started here that I've seen reported at TFW205. Its fun; I get to see how far the reach here spreads.
>>5670779
To be fair, I'm in this subscription more for the limbs than I am Bludgeon/Impactor/Whoever the mystery figure will be. Matrix Quest was my shit as a kid who's Transformers knowledge was limited to G1 VHS tapes, RID/Armada (I never liked Beast Wars/Machines as a kid for some reason), and the old Titan Books TPBs of the late 80s Marvel comics, so finally having good figures of the main group of Cons in that arc is great for me. Problem is like you said Thunderwing's team during Matrix Quest never really had a team, so they just slapped on the Mayhem Attack Squad name on the group. It's not like the Mayhem Attack Squad hasn't varied through the years/continuities anyways.
I've heard good things about the MP KOs commonly found on ebay, are they actually good or just good for KOs? I've been thinking of picking up wheeljack but I don't know how the details/paint/joints hold up to the real thing.
>>5670816
Mixed bag, some older ones are shit as a whole but some in between are good.
Avoid the newer ko's, namely ko starscream shockwave and starsaber.
That said the over sized ko's of mp10 are godly
>>5670816
Some people can deal with the minor differences in quality. I can't. Wheeljack has a rerelease this month, so if you don't mind spending the extra $20, there's that option.
>>5670808
I'm not a big fan of it mostly for the Bludgeon. Yes, it's supposed to be based on the inner robot, but Bludgeon's inner robot was a tiny brown-and-green turd with a part-leprosy transformation and about two appearances to its name, and the '07 Wreckage repaint did a perfectly fine job of homaging it anyway. And compared to ROTF Bludgeon, who was one of the best figures of that line, it's just a joke. The idea of a Thunderwing had potential (Generations Thunderwing is a bit too small), but it would have made much more sense to make it from Cyclonus.
>>5670790
Simply stating facts is autism? geez louise.
>>5670779
They are a group that is calling itself Mayhem Attack Squad, so they are the Mayhem Attack Squad. If they are truly the Wreckers enemy unit, it would make sense they have revolving membership thanks to high death rates and whatnot.
>>5670785
Stop being a baby, it can't be that bad.
>>5670832
So what is up with Grapple-colored Hound, Glyph, and Green Jazz?
>>5670837
hasbro trying something new
>>5670808
Nah, I hear you dude, it's good you're getting a lot of dudes from that saga, I just made that one afternoon seeing how the all connect together.
>>5670833
Just going by the original comics, where they got the idea from.
>>5670839
Fuck that. It should have been Prowl or Jazz for Lisa depending on if "smart guy" or "musician" is more important, Sideswipe Bart, and Bumblebee Maggie.
>>5670836
G2 Silverbolt has:
-Painted sections on the plane bits, and if you tab the nose with the wings, paint will chip eventually. The tailfin is also fully painted.
-Head has clearance issues, so the antenna will chip unless you're super careful.
-The sides of the combiner chest (red in the original) are painted blue. That area scrapes against the combiner chest, and Silverbolts legs so that's going to look pretty bad after a while.
>>5670578
Why would I want those? I don't care for the Protectabots, and Booboff is an easy pass. Just give me TR already.
>>5670779
>Being this autistic over nothing
The Wreckers are always changing, why can't the Mayhem Attack Squad? Besides, who the fuck even gives that much of shit about the MAS anyway?
>>5670862
But Hasbro released an incomplete team of Combaticons. We need Blast Off.
>>5670907
>We need Blast Off.
We got one with a backstory of his reformat and all!
>>5670862
who cares about what you want!?
>>5670911
>hasbro drone detected
>>5670913
Wut?
>>5670913
That doesn't even make sense in this context, try harder in the future.
>>5670908
Obama killed space shuttles. Blast-off had to adapt or die.
>>5670911
Because the conversation implied that those things were absolutely needed before Titan Returns, when my point was that not everyone in the world is interested in Groove and Blastoff?
>>5670931
who cares about what you think!?
>>5670936
Who cares!?
>>5670936
...Are you 12?
>>5670944
No, but I do know when a conversation isn't worth taking seriously.
Also, ellipses?, how about you?
>>5670950
>No, but I do know when a conversation isn't worth taking seriously.
Except all you did was run into a conversation screaming "WHO CARES" like an idiot, without contributing anything, so I'm actually going to take that as a "Yes".
>Also, ellipses?, how about you?
And I'm going to take to mean you were assigned some grammatical homework this weekend, and are trying to use keywords you recall to act like you're older than 14.
>>5670965
Sounding like a flustered-fag there.
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>Get a Fort Max from HK
>still waiting for it to arrive 21 days later
i'm getting impatient/upset lads.
>>5670563
Get the Titanic Returns preview toy.
Looks like someone from japan offloaded thier predacus botcon set to mandarake.
>80,000yen
I sense that exclusivity is why its priced so high for a literal turd
>>5670578
You mean in stores? Cause some online retailers seem to have Groove in-stock now.
>>5671032
lookit fixit
>>5671020
>Hong Kong
there's your problem
>>5671047
Which online retailers?
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>>5671052
he was the cheapest seller, and his was MISB.
>>5671048
>that damn shit-eating grin
>Vicky is up at BBTS
>idiots will actually buy her
>>5671124
I've read from a couple people that the hips are fucked on Pyra Magna,
Kind of wanna see if Takara takes a crack at her. I mean they're doing Sky Reign so why the heck not?
>>5671125
How are they fucked up? Tilting forward in combined mode like Hot Spot?
>no IDW shit memes
TAKARA
WINS
AGAIN
Could someone please repost the future TR release images?
The ones with Star/Laser Prime, better Megatron and that cool SHMUP spaceship decepticon
>>5671149
Hoi doi why dey put Rewind wif Blaster?
new youheidx video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZvhyUawX9Q
So is it pretty much confirmed at this point that neither the Hasbro or Takara Fort Max comes with the master sword? Is SDCC the only way to get it?
>>5671195
Potentially retailer exclusive, but nothing is really confirmed yet, we need to wait for those "in hand" shots tf_yuki provides.
There seems to already be third party stuff in the works
>>5671205
I hear the knee locking mechanisms are misassembled.
>>5671209
>mechanisms
It's just some rail tabs.
>>5671062
Nobody said they had to be.
>a scramble city comprised out of the cassette beasts
Fuck me, that sounds epic.
>>5671125
>her
>>5671195
Putting aside the Master Sword for a moment, wht about his handgun? The only place I've seen him with one is in the box art. Neither the Hasbro or Takara promo pictures have him with it. Is he coming with a handgun or not?
>>5671125
Her knees are fucked rather than the hips. One of the parts inside the knee is backwards, so it can't fold in all the way to lock in place for robot mode like it should be able to. It doesn't affect the combined mode, at least not that I'm aware of since I don't have it.
>>5671251
>I don't own it but I'll tell you what's wrong with it
>>5671249
Maybe they want to hide the sword, the gun and something else as a surprise!
Oh, who am I kidding.
>>5671266
I watched this review of it which explains the problem pretty clearly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=levGx-l9mRk
>>5671271
the fuck is that
>>5671279
If only the filename would indicate things like that.
>>5671195
Yeah, FM has been pretty disappointing so far. I hope they don't find a way to reuse the Metroplex mold for Trypticon and Scorponok.
>>5671284
Trypticon not, but I can see Scorponok.
Swap the hands for claws, give it extra tail and legs kibble, and paint it green and purple.
Lucky for us that Trypticon won the poll.
>>5671284
Oh, they will.
>>5671290
>Swap the hands for claws, give it extra tail and legs kibble, and paint it green and purple.
Idiot, don't give them any ideas!
>>5671209
is it on all of them or just a rare 1 in a million factor error?
>>5671294
Just you wait.
>>5671294
Partformer.
>>5671284
I dunno if I'll get Fort Max yet.
On one hand, he doesn't seem super interesting besides being massive. On the other hand, I'm still in my completionist phase of collecting and want him to go with the other Autobot Headmasters.
Alternatively, they go with Energon Omega, since he also had that Headmaster thing.
>>5671321
>Aaron Archer hates Headmasters
>approves Energon Omega Supreme
>considers the nub it plugs into a head
Why do people worship this ass again?
>>5671327
but orson loved tfw
>>5671332
And misery loves company, what's your point?
>>5671345
Why should I care?
Faggot hated Sky Lynx and that's all I need to know. Glad that he's out.
>>5671321
I bought omega off of craigs list, along with complete energon and cybertron primes, and I had no clue he was a headmaster. That was a very pleasant surprise
>>5671345
Pete Sinclair with him choosing Seibertron over TFW2005.
Press F to pay respects.
>>5671364
what do i press to lol
>>5671368
Little red X in the upper right corner.
>>5671297
>Retooling Metroplex into a partsformer
The stuff of nightmares.
Anyway, I wonder if 3p are now going to start pumping upgade kits for FM. I assume they're waiting for Takara to announce changes before saying anything, but after the last few pics, they should star announcing:
-Cog.
-Upgrade kit for the arms, or arm replacements with pop up cannons.
We'll have to wait a while, but after they learn everything about the figure, and it's release, they should announce weapons, and a leg upgrade kit.
>>5671386
>Cog
If Iron Factory does the same as they did with Metroplex Slammer and Sixgun, the have my money
You knoe who needs a CHUG?
Or a 3P for Defensor?
>>5671415
Thrust?
>>5671418
Nope.
It's one of Defensor's extra members, along with this guy.
>>5671439
What if you have to rescue a falling plane or guys trapped underground?
>>5670554
He has hands sculpted inside.
What mainline TF toy series was the worst? Beast Machines?
>>5671459
Armada. It looked great but the gimmicks ruined 99.9% of them. That's coming from someone who loved them as a kid.
>have about 40+ TFs as of a week ago
>sold most, kept 6, will probably sell 3 of them later on
know what? felt good. Just more shit to dust constantly.
>>5671469
When did you start collecting?
Just had a look at mandarake's second hand UW prices, out of the premium exclusives WITHOUT effect part addons is defensor at 16,000yen (opened box damaged)but prices vary up to around 18,000yen, grand convoy is second at 17,000yen, I don't think hasbro groove hurt him much
Cheapest regular is menasor for 10,000yen, best value is UW devastator at 17,000.
Better off waiting for a hlj sale, which is what I'm doing for UW bruticus, come on 9k yen!
>>5671469
>not keeping them under covered displays
I only keep the combiners out and one mp, the rest are under cover, fuck dusting so many
>>5671467
The minicons could be neat, but the main figures fucking sucks.
>>5671459
for me it's transmetal2 and most of g2, aside from the cyberjets, laser optimus and dreadwing/smokescreen.
>>5671459
In the 20 years I've collected, Armada was the definite low point. Completely tossed out 8 years of toy engineering from late G2 up until then in favor if intense gimmicky. There's never been a regression quite to that level ever again. What made it worse is that this was a high-point in toys at the time. Toy Biz was killing it with their MArvel Lines, and LOTR. bandai was bringing over Gundam MSiA. a bunch of other cutting edge toylines sprung up. Yet her was Trasnformers, regressing to late 80's engineering.
The sad thing is that a lot of those Armada designs where really good and fresh, the toys just didn't do them justice. Also, in hindsight, the toys are fun in a throwbacks ort of way, but I'd much rather have had them keep the same quality RiD had.
>>5671482
That was the problem. The minicons rocked but the main figures were meh at best.
>>5671459
RID, the 2000 one.
All the new molds sucked, and the best toys were redecos from G1, G2, and Beast Wars. Seriously, it's like the designers just forgot how to make a good transformer with the piles of shit they were releasing like God Magnus or the Car Bros.
>>5671499
>Car Bros
>Piles of shit
You take that back! Mach Alert is based. Speedbreaker has better articulation than most transformers, even MPs. Wildrider is a bit off-kilter, but his transformation is a lot of fun.
>>5671502
>even mp's
Mp's put looks in both modes over articulation, so all they can do is poses they could of done in their shows and nothing extreme.
Not bricks, but to the point where most chug toys out do them
>>5671502
Also Gigatron, one of my favorite bot modes.
>>5671531
Too bad they're kibbly piles of shit where they used the Beast Wars Neo style of making a scrawny robot and shoving it in a car shell.
>>5671459
It really has to be Beast Machines, but I give it a pass because I like the vehicons.
For me I think most of the Transmetal 2 figures are crap.
>want Quillfire really bad
>walked from my hometown over a range of hills just to get to where they sell him
>no Quillfire
>now considering a trip into and all around London just for the bugger
>don't even collect RiD
Transformers is a hell of a drug
>>5671065
Kapowtoys do.
They also have Victorion it seems.
any place where i can get PCC minicons in packs?
did they ever get a reissue?
>>5671622
Ebay
>>5671477
>effect part addons
effects add ons? what are you talking about?
>>5670537
There's actually comics starring the 2007 movie decepticons doing cute things.
its not that i mind it, its just that... these are characters who mostly didnt talk, and if they talked they still werent characterized well. and all them died in horrible ways, making the comic quite surreal
this dedication japanese TF fans have is so strange
>>5671630
It's obvious he's talking about the Perfect Effect add ons.
>>5671635
i thought he was talking about something like this
>>5671638
Like that?
>>5671537
This. The deluxes were awful.
There are lots of versions of the 1986 movie on DVD, which is the best? I don't want one that's been edited or cropped if possible, I'm going to make my nephews watch it because they don't watch proper cartoons most of the time.
>>5671729
>I'm gonna make them watch it.
How many times do you get to see your nephews, perchance?
They might look tempting, but can the new TR deluxes do this?
>>5671729
If you want them to watch proper cartoons, you can do better than some piece of budget shit from the 1980s.
>once saw someone going on a rant about how modern cartoons are terrible
>their example of a "well-animated" cartoon was Jem
I'm sorry but if your idea of superior animation is literally ANYTHING crapped out by Sunbow, you have clearly watched very few cartoons.
>>5671746
I know this is TF (toy) GD, but, BTAS shits all over G1. No question. That anon should probably show them that.
>>5671729
What is a "proper" cartoon? The '86 movie had some decent budget behind it but if you've seen the original cartoon and aren't completely blinded by nostalgia or delusion you would know that it was just as much of a shallow, brainless toy commercial as cartoons are today.
>>5671742
I'm certain they can if you balance them right.
>>5671742
Send the pic to Yuki and find out.
>>5671763
I have a feeling Yuki will do this pose the second he gets his hand on a Mindwipe
Apparently Victorion is going on sale officially now.
Ordered the set from Target today. Should arrive in about three days.
Also bought a Generations Brainstorm off ebay on the side, should arrive in a similar timeframe.
After those two purchases I should be mostly done until titans return.
>>5671770
And yes I know she's been floating around earlier than this but like fuck am I paying more than 110 for these sets.
>>5671772
I'd wait till she's marked down.
Same thing happened with the G2 Combiner sets. They went down like 20 bucks after a month or two.
>>5671775
You and your "Good monetary ideas"
I want gratification now damn it.
>>5671731
We're all going on holiday together. Last time they got Bucky O'Hare from somewhere and loved it, so I think they'll like the older stuff.
Being honest, a lot of modern cartoons are actually very good, I've seen the new Thundercats and Scoobie Doo, both actually have a story.
But they'll like Transformers I'm sure.
>>5671087
>cheapest seller
>comes in the mail
>Takasa Tony
TOP KEK
>>5671279
Something stupid expensive.
>>5671659
like this, you fool. do you see with your eyes?
Anyone else wish there was more TF headsculpts that utilized hats in the design, like a construction vehicle tf that wears a hard hat or a fire truck bot that wears a fireman's helmet?
>>5671847
sounds like something out of the Brave series.
Unfortunately i dont think we'll see it much outside Animated and Rescue Bots
>>5671290
honestly, it wouldnt be that bad honestly.
Seeing how much of a visual change they made with ft max, I could see it happening.
Scorp never had an advanced transformation.
I mean, his scorpion mode is just him fuckinng lying on his back, sticking his arms up, and folding his legs forward.
His base mode is just him lying on his belly doing the splits and sticking his arms up.
It's not like trypticon who has a complex and interesting, unique transformation.
>>5671863
>honestly, it wouldnt be that bad honestly.
wow
that's what I get for typing while watching TV
>>5670537
anyone else think this guy looks like a Classics Movie Ironhide?
>>5671729
The Sony remaster from 2006 is the best version.
>>5671869
Not until you mentioned it, but yeah, I see it.
>>5671869
Looks sexy to me.
>mfw some faggot on TFW is so assblasted by people saying there aren't IDW inspired figures, he went and made a thread
>>5671947
While that's pretty dumb, let's keep the forum faggotry to the forums.
beast titanmaster when
>>5671956
>2016
>Be Hasbro/Takara
>Still can't make Headmasters with poseable separated legs
Technology sure has progressed
>>5671956
We could have had those instead of Guys Who Weren't Headmasters.
>>5671966
Never. Didn't you see the picture? Hasbro wasted the molds.
Weird dream I had last night, I had TR Fortmax but he was undersized, about the size of a voyager.
Thanks for checking out my blog, stay tuned for more updates!
>>5671968
Nice, fuck up.
>>5671972
>tfw you have dreams where you get a figure that just came out or one you've wanted for years
>then you wake up
Like the sign in the Captcha said, Fuck.
>>5671975
Not TF, but I had at least three dreams as a kid of finding and getting the Thunder Zords from Power Rangers Ninja Force, since I only ever had the Ninja Zords
>>5671975
I've three dreams like that.
Two involved the finding and opening of CW Sky Lynx (but he looked a bit more like the IDW version with a frilled neck)
And one involved finding Chromedome and Mindwipe.
I was so frustrated when I woke up
>>5671972
>>5671975
>>5672011
every toy buying dream I have it's stuff I've already got.
I keep having a dream where I find Thunderhoof amd Quillfire get exited then after buying them in the dream remember I already bought them a month ago and wake up.
I went to the Collect-a-con convention in Syracuse today, and G1 Transformers were everyplace in boxes, loose, etc, however I saw one table that really caught my eye. It had sealed Japanese beast wars figures, G2 Combiner wars sets, Perfect effect add-ons, near everything you could ask for at a Transformer table. I saw he had a bin of loose CHUG figures, so I decided to look through them how expensive can a loose modern figure without accessories be?
I found a Generations Kup. He had surface scratches, his head joint was incredibly loose, it jiggled while standing still. $20. Okay... No thanks.
Okay, next, Generations Scourge. Solid condition, looked nice. How much? $20.. again. For a figure that seldom sells above $10 loose on any website.
I hear behind me a young boy get really excited about the loose figures in the bin I saw. I hear him call over his mom. Literally every figure the boy pulled out the vendor asked for $30 on it.
I felt really bad for a lot of these parents because this guys stand was more or less one of the very first in the convention upon entering, and everything he had was overpriced. He was asking $80 for a loose leader Sentinel Prime for crying out loud, and a parent was going to buy it before I stepped in a pointed out a boxed one to them for $55 at another table.
Some other fun items of note were a Combiner wars Superion missing two out of the 4 limbs, being replaced by a dragstrip and first aid without any HFG's marked $100. A pretty beat up God Ginrai in the box for $300. Hasbro Collector Edition Reissue Transformers for $75 each. A G1 Scorponok without weapons for $125.
I understand vendors need to make a profit to continue to show up at conventions, but that sort of mark up, and overall dickery is pretty fucked. Especially when people a few tables deeper into the building are selling the exact same items for retail or less.
Tl;dr Help parents out at conventions if you see them at the table of a scalper.
>>5672029
You're a noble person, anon. I salute you.
THIS JUST IN
KO Masterpiece Tracks has RUBBER yes I said RUBBER tires.
>>5672071
>rubber
Into the trash it goes.
>>5672071
>wanting Chinese knock-off rubber
I'd rather not die from fumes.
>unpacking bots from storage
>wave of indifference over so many faces.
The honeymoon is over for a lot of these guys. Time to see who I just don't have fun with anymore, and those who just need to be replaced.
Sadly I already see some: some figures with white on them got are yellowed something fierce. Mach and Waver of the Multiforce shouldn't be hard to replace, or expensive.
Beast Wars Skywarp, on the other hand... do I even want to make the effort on a toy that's doomed to die anyway?
Since there seem to be a few Brave fans here (you guys are my niggas, by the way), I thought someone might be interested in a set of J-Decker animation references.
I posted these over at /m/ a little while ago, so forgive me if this is a bit of old news for some of ya. I did get some "pitch" documents for the show as well, but I still have to scan those.
https://mega.nz/#!hVh22Z5J!svQmeSTsmHE0GXVr_uGBFRWvd5ERrtcFRI1TigkuUu0
Hey, hasbro's ebay store has all 5 bruticus components for about 77 bucks, is that decent? But more importantly, is he in any way a better combiner than defensor, because that's pretty much the last transformer I bought and he was a little lackluster. Did they fix his combiner hips or those shoulder tabs, by any chance?
>>5672103
Thats a damn good price I think. Deluxes are MSRP $15 or so, and Onslaught is $24.
Bruticus as a whole is more solid, yes. Onslaught has super secure locking points for his chest shield/arms, and they fixed Defensor's Hotspot mold a bit by correcting the amount of plastic in the screw holes that made the leg bits not lock in properly in combined mode.
>>5672071
Call me when they make a faceplated head for Road Rage
>>5672112
>Onslaught has super secure locking points for his chest shield/arms, and they fixed Defensor's Hotspot mold
Cool, that's actually better than I was hoping for. And since they're in your pic, how much do the third party hands and feet help him? I kept meaning to buy a set for defensor and supes, but I never got around to it. That's the perfect effect set, right?
>>5672112
>and they fixed Defensor's Hotspot mold a bit by correcting the amount of plastic in the screw holes that made the leg bits not lock in properly in combined mode.
Not OP, but is there a way to fix the hip issue with Defensor?
My Defensor has that issue where one of the tabs on his hips doesn't secure nicely.
>>5672126
Yeah thats the PE set. I have'em for all of my combiners (Menasor, Bruticus, Defensor, Superion). I love'em, and I think they're worth the price.
>>5672134
Thats the issue I was referring to above, and there is a way to fix it, yes. The problem stems (usually) from there being too much plastic in one of the screw-holding tubes inside the leg. You've got to unscrew the big blue parts that make up the leg and then figure out which one has too much plastic, sand it a tiny bit, then put it back together and see if it holds.
>>5672029
Problem is, a lot of people walk into cons with barely enough for bus fare home. When you're paying upwards of $100 per table, you can't make it back $1 at a time. If rent were more reasonable, you'd see better prices from some (but not all) vendors.
Now, I don't carry loose figures, because I hate the pricing you describe. Saw some absolutely destroyed Wheeljacks at Botcon 07 for triple digits. I'll happily point you to vendors with stuff I don't have or be upfront about whether a toy is too fragile for your kid. But just because a table down the hall from me is blowing out stock at half wholesale doesn't change my margin or make me a jerk for trying to keep my head above water.
>>5672112
how bad is brawl?
>>5672126
Perfect Effect hands and feet for Bruticus are fantastic!
The old hand and feet guns make him have giant hands compared to tiny feet.
They help him with poseability, though there may be times when he might slouch over and fall, since he can be a bit heavy on the ball-socket joints for ankles.
Overall, awesome!
>>5671415
Armada Red Alert is that you?
>>5672145
My Brawl is fine, except his arms are a little looser than I'd like. I haven't tightened him with floor polish yet, but I might.
His waist on mine clips in just fine. Apparently it's a crap shoot whether you'll get a good waist or a bad one.
>>5672144
Steel City is Pittsburgh is the worst of this. They raised tables to $150, charge full freight ($40) for a helper badge, charge another $10 for the 2nd chair, and force vendors to set up Thursday night for a show that has ZERO traffic on Friday (forcing another travel/hotel day for non-locals). Needless to say, first time they sprung that on me (the Thursday bit came after signups) was the last time I bothered with that show. No wonder vendors are getting grumpy and artists complain about poor sales. I wish we had the collective backbone to tell Dominic to shove his primadona "event" where the sun don't shine.
>>5670551
Anyone have a hi-res image of the face sticker? I've been wanting to print it on a shirt.
>>5670780
Because it's an inanimate object.
>>5672219
Transformers fans only want things until they actually happen.
>>5670837
Its a longtime Simpsons running gag
>>5672145
The only root negative about Brawl is that his QC is a gamble. Everything about him is potentially alright, but the potential for it to go wrong is abnormally high.
>>5672219
They finally must've realized how shit rubber is.
Rubber, chrome, and diecast are always and have always been shit. They all degrade/fuck up way too easily, yet retards think it's a GOOD feature.
>>5671327
What have YOU contributed to RF?
>>5671345
Wheeljack fron TNI pitched a hissy fit at Hasbro about it. And his Master JayC defended their action as "They were asking for it"
>>5672136
rad display
>>5672235
Why doesn't diecast age well?
>>5672077
>fumes from chinese rubber
>e.coli from indian transformers
How would you like to die, anon?
>>5672257
Inb4 transformers titans diarrhea
>>5672239
I have no idea who those people are.
I mean schadenfreude is fun, but I can't even keep up with TF's cautionary tales like Walky, Ben Yee, Sipher/Sepelak and Pete Sinclair.
I don't even have the dirt on Troop or Wittenrich.
Well, who cares anyway.
>>5672257
>>e.coli from indian transformers
holy shit pajeets make KOs too?
my fucking sides
>>5672087
Thank you so much anon!
I really like the Brave style and have been trying to draw in it for a while now, so this'll help me quite a bit~ I especially want to draw transformers characters in this style
Where did you find these sheets anyway?
>>5672087
fukken gold mine
much thanks anon
>>5672297
I'm glad they can be of use to you! Drawing Brave-styled robots is a goal of mine as well.
As for where I found them, I bought them on YJA. There are a few up for some other Brave shows at the moment, like Might Gaine and Goldran. The issue is that those seem to be split into multiple auctions, whereas I got the J-Decker ones all at once.
If they drop in price, however, or if someone else starts to bid on them, I'll probably have to jump on them too.
>>5672283
nope, hasbro moving factory to china
so your official toys will have shit too, congrats
>>5672297
I always felt like CW Hot Spot was incredibly goddamn Braves in his robot mode design. He has such an amazing musculature.
>>5672307
oh so you actually own these? nice find anon!
I'd really love to see the Might Gaine and Goldran sheets too... where can i keep up with these if you buy and upload them? i dont wanna miss it if that happens...
>>5672311
wait where were the hasbro factories before?
>>5672313
i felt it too!
i think his arms play a big part in that, his high shoulders and inward curling forearms are very Brave indeed~
>>5672316
Vietnam, before the hippies found out
>>5672311
What are you saying?
>>5672314
Thanks, they're definitely some of the coolest things I own.
Chances are they'd get posted in a Brave thread on /m/ if there is one up at the time. But I frequent /toy/ a whole lot, and since I know you're interested, I'll be sure to post them here as well in one of the TF threads.
If I ever get them, of course.
>>5672329
fug
does this mean you americans have been exposed to Agent Orange all this time?
>>5672338
Man, we live off that shit.
>>5672340
dayum
I'm glad I'm not american for once
>>5672235
>diecast
>shit
>>5672313
His transfomation scheme is also near-identical to Hyo/En/Rai/FuuRyu.
Now if only he could perform symmetrical docking.
>>5672347
diecast is shit
paint doesn't adhere as well, and loose diecast joints can't be fix by conventional means
only idiots that think weight = quality like diecasts
>>5672248
when it wears down nothing, NOTHING can tighten it back up.
>>5672347
>chips easily
>cosmic rust
>can deform not only itself, but plastic beside it if put together poorly
>will eventually be looser than a two dollar whore at a big dick convention
>>5672313
>aw this guy looks cool
>$40 just about everywhere
fuck me it's not even a year old
>>5672356
I don't mind, it's good to know that when I sell my CW figures (I got the UW ones when I saw how crap hasbro was doing it) they'll be worth a bob or two
>>5672369
are transformers fans really so autistic that the price jumps that much that quickly
>>5672313
He is a super fun figure on his own. Yes.
>>5672373
I'd say it's due to Hasbro's ineptitude in terms of distribution, Scalpers saw it and swiped most of them up, better get those Grooves quick folks.
Funnily enough where I live, it seems like they're all shelfwarming (though our punishment is missing out the Combaticon and Stunticon waves.)
>>5672369
>UW Defensor
>Hasbro one is crap
That's a good one buddy. All UW had going for it was Groove. The paint apps on the rest were fucking terrible.
>>5672384
Can you honestly tell me Hasbro's Streetwise was the better of the two?
>>5672384
By "it" I mean the entire line and not in terms of paint jobs, plus, I own both the releases of each figure and I prefer the color choices of the UW.
>>5672390
I can, and it's for the reason every other figure in the set suffers: It looks like the CW deco just with things missing.
Groove and Hot Spot's shade of blue were the only good points. Everything else exists only to drown out all the detail that Hasbro highlighted on the mold.
They manage to accomplish LESS with more budget than Hasbro for the sake of being cartoon accurate.
>>5672373
yes but it dives as quickly when a new shiny comes for a spell before it spikes back up(IF it's generations stuff, Prime by majority is slowly climbing back up.)
I get most of the thrilling 30 for less because Combiner wars became the hot shit.
When Titian Returns makes a big splash I suspect most CW toys will drop for awhile until the climb up from actual lack of availability
>>5672400
It's also more accurate to the original figures too, and I prefer that. It's hard to state that one's better than the other when both set out to do different things and it's all down to personal preference anyway.
>>5672384
Blades and Streetwise have better decos than their US counteparts. First Aid is equal, Hot Spot is lesser. I'd say it's a "either one you want" sort of toy.
>>5671965
Honestly I know that was a shit post, but, DAMN. I'm really wishing they did that now.
>>5672434
Enjoy your Grimlock and Brawn Titanmasters instead, we knew you guys wanted new figures of them!
>>5671956
Let's be honest here, while I like the beast headmasters, if they had gotten made, a bunch of people would just be posting "literally who?" and complaining that we didn't get something else instead.
>>5672445
Fuck those popularists, they're the reason it takes ages for even slightly obscure characters to get updates.
>>5672454
>popularists
Please tell me you're being ironic or something.
>>5672458
And fuck you as well.
>>5671847
Rescue Bots look like they are wearing helmets.
>>5670537
If you want ugly transformers, go look at the movie lines. Those things should never have seen the light of day.
>>5672496
I believe you mean Beast Machines.
>>5672501
Yes, them too. BM toys were ugly as were the movie toys, but especially the movie toys. Good gosh those things were hideous.
>>5672501
You mean Animated.
>>5672504
IYO
>>5672507
You mean G1.
>>5672501
Some beast machines toys were bad ass though
>>5672509
You mean RiD2015, man those things are derpy looking.
>>5672513
You mean everything, because everything has, is, and will be shitty.
>>5672517
I don't even like Transformers to be completely honest with you.
>>5672103
He's a LOT better than Defensor, at least as far as the torso component is concerned. The shoulder tabs are still a little borked but it doesn't actually matter as much this time because the shoulders are oriented differently in torso mode so the fact that the forearms don't peg in super solidly isn't a big deal. The real big improvement to the shoulders is how the chest piece pegs into them. It's so much more solid than Defensor's chest plate connection AND because of the different shoulder orientation, it closes off the combiner port and locks the arm bots in place so they won't slip out when you're trying to pose them. The hips feel a bit more secure versus Defensor's as well. Still wonky in how they articulate but they're more secure.
>>5672548
I've been a TF fan since the 80s and I like most of it, even found some redeemable qualities in Beast Machines (vehicons) I've never understood the community's "it's shit" attitude toward almost literally everything, if you don't like something just shut up about it you aren't doing anything but entertaining yourself bitching about it
>>5672578
>I've never understood the community's "it's shit" attitude toward almost literally everything
Surprise, people say dumb shit on 4chan all the time to get a rise out of people.
>>5672583
It's not just 4chan, we're such a small part of it, and 4chan wasn't around for the whole Truck not Munkey shit.
>>5672356
Ask a Canadian anon to buy one for you. He's everywhere and voyagers are 20 leafbucks at wal-mart right now.
>>5672496
>it's a geewuner episode
>>5671516
Hasbro should take the retooled BW Megatron head made for the Convention and release it with this body, but in BW Megatron's original T-Rex color scheme.
Then again a year or two later as T-Wrecks
>>5671737
If he's really as bad as you say, you're only giving him what he wants.
>>5671775
So where would be the best place to order CW Computron from?
>>5672144
>When you're paying upwards of $100 per table, you can't make it back $1 at a time.
ANd when you overcharge grotesquely, you won't make ANYTHING back at all.
Went to YC3 and someone was selling Titan Metroplex for $60
No accs and no helmet
>>5672269
Whats wrong with Ben Yee?
>>5672672
People pissed off about the Beast Wars Sourcebook, and sour grapes from the likes of Walky because Ben was actually involved in a very small way with Beast Wars and they were not.
Basically, Ben was somebody back when they were all just fanboys on usenet.
>>5672512
Only really bad Vehicon was Ultra Jetstorm
Blackarachnia and Night Strike Cheetor were nice
>>5672701
I'll never understand why the Night Slash Cheetor mold couldn't be the main Cheetor mold. There were so many stupid decisions made on that toyline.
>>5672513
If nothing else RiD15 has given us 4 amazing Decepticon designs: Thunderhoof, Quillfire, Megatronus and motherfuckingbased Fracture and 4 interesting Autobot designs: Fixit, Grimlock, Strongarm and Drift.
>>5672752
I think the autobot designs is limited to Fixit, buddy, Strongarm's legion figure is great I guess but Drift and Grimlock are sad at best.
>>5672765
I like Drift for his ability to store swords on the hips, but yeah other than that he's pretty meh.
>>5672765
I think Drift looks great (don't own him), does the robot samurai thing better than AOE Drift, And I like the vehicle he's alluding to (though AOE's licensed one does look better)
>>5672765
We all have different preferences, personally I like "Godzilla" Grimlock and Drift. Strongarm isn't my design but I still like transforming her, I should track down her Legion class figure to compare.
>>5672788
Her Warrior class should take notes from her Legion
>>5672790
Watched a video of the transformation for the legion class, what notes should the deluxe have taken from the legion class?
>>5672797
The warrior is 90% shellformer with a giant hideous backpack, even if it's off model the legion figure makes great use of all its parts.
>>5672799
Well, you can still find all the Warriors from the first wave for sale. So they're pretty much all shelfwarmers.
>>5672802
>Shelfwarmer
>Shellformer
>Close enough
>>5672805
Heh. My bad. I can't read.
>>5672808
To be fair the two tend to go hand in hand don't they?
>>5672802
Funny thing is in my area the RiD15 stuff isn't nearly as prevalent as the CW figures. I was bored and had some time to kill so I checked out my local stores and found Quillfire and Thunderhoof.
>>5672799
I don't necessarily hate shelformers, I'd hate an entire wave made up of them, but they don't bother me as much as they do most of you.
>>5670537
What is the Dark Souls of transformations?
>>5672819
Universe Galvatron, ROTF Leader Optimus or WFC Bumblebee
>>5672752
Upcoming Scorponok also looks phenomenal
>>5672825
i much prefer bisk
>>5672799
>giant hideous backpack
u are transforming her wrong.
>>5672819
the BW combiners Magnaboss and Tripredacus
>>5672819
You mean hardmode? Early Binaltech. Their car exterior is almost fully diecast, thus fully painted. Smokescreen was partly a shell-former and had a fiddly transformation. So what you have here is the ultimate paint-chip prone transformer. The more you transform him, the more the paint is chipped.
Did I mention that the glossy car finish = fingerprint magnet?
>>5672830
Sorry anon that still looks awful no matter how many times you try to force that meme.
>>5672578
you, my comrade, are a freak, among transformers fans.
good going! keep it up, the world need more folks like you,
>>5672815
Shellforming is fine to a certain degree. I love the CW First Aid mold.
On the other hand, I hate figures that don't have the shell in one piece, but break it up into a million small pieces on hinges.
>>5672855
Agreed, for me it was the Trailbreaker version of the mold that I enjoy the most. Funny thing about the whole CW line is just how good of a job that Hasbro did with making the combining part fun and quick. I know some people will disagree with me, but I enjoyed the fact that I could have multiple combinations and then swap everything around in a matter of minutes. Plus as a kid I was never able to get a hold of a complete Gestalt so it's been nice being able to piece these together with relative ease, heck most of the limbs were found on the same peg.
>>5672672
>Yee
like pretty much everyone with a name in the fandom, he wanted to be the head authority of tf fandom and it went over his head.
can't blame him, he was the guy that beast wars producers consulted to about everything g1.
>>5672384
At least my UW Hot Spot doesn't topple forward all the time in combined mode.
>>5672880
My UW hotspot does, had to perform the fucking fix on his legs, really pissed me off considering how much I paid for the UW version.
>>5672845
What I like about the RiD Decepticons is that they're not all purple. It's alright for one or two (Fracture) but it's nice to see them get a more diverse palette
>Laserbeak, Ravage, et al. keep getting new versions as with Fall of Cybertron, Titans Return etc.
>Slugfest and Overkill will never get new figures
I just want to fill my Soundwave up with DINOSAURS DAMNIT
>>5672924
slugfest, overkill, and squawkbox were always my favorites too
>>5672924
Try being a fan of Beast Box and Squawktalk
>>5672507
Animated was the high water mark for Transformers in my opinion. It's been downhill mostly since then. They've tried to bring back the styling recently but it isn't as good.
Any TF that transforms into a non-firearm weapon?
>>5672941
If you're talking about any TF then many of the upcoming weaponizer mini cons don't turn into firearms. Full sized, you're probably out of luck
>>5672941
There's a dog that turns into a drill. And an Armada-era minicon that turns into a throwing star.
>>5672941
Any of them if you're willing to throw them hard enough.
>>5672941
PCC Minicons and Arms Microns. PCC cons have better robot modes while AMs have better weapon modes (because they're modeled after existing weapons).
>>5672945
are they coming in packs?
>>5672941
Rescue bot minicons. There's this dragon and a dalmatian that turns into fire-extinguishers...
Dog that turns into a work-drill
Upcoming lion that turns into a rescue claw
Upcoming cheetah that turns into a hexdriver
>>5672941
Upcoming RID15 minicons include ones that turn into hammers, claws and swords.
>>5672958
There's this four-pack full of weaponizer minicons just out in Asia.
>>5672973
a single autobot among a crowd of decepticons?
>>5672973
Tempting, but looks like Bashbreaker and Dragonus are missing those snap on armor thing.
>>5672981
>>5672984
Normally, these minicons are tied to autobot/decepticon factions due to the shape of the armor's runner. So what they did was to faction-swap the two minicons that didn't have the armor. It's quite smart.
>>5672972
>hammers
>claws
>swords
Oh, my.
>Online retailer anime-export.com has updated the listing for Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG31 Fortress Maximus, revealing a fun little tidbit of information, which will probably go down well with fans of the original Headmasters series: it looks like the Japanese version of the toy will include new voice recordings by original voice actor Ikuya Sawaki
>Transformers Legends LG-31 - Fortress Maximus!!
The huge Transformers is back in the Legends line-up!
60 cm tall in robot mode.
From the 1987 series Transformers Headmasters.
The toy features sound gimmicks such as the original animation opening song, its signature sentences plus new ones registered by the original voice actor specifically for this toy!
Cerebros is also included!
...I want word on what's up with pic related and why no sword images
>>5673126
Have a link to that pic on the site? I'm only seeing pictures of the hasbro on their takara listing.
>>5673138
I honestly grabbed that one at random, hlj and amiami have the takara ones up already, sans sword, show accurate colors on display.
>>5673126
Wonder if it will be the full song or just a fragment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt1ewzK1ezU
>>5672830
>thiccfomers, more meats in yer thighs
>>5672938
I don't like the flying pucks from RID15 much, but its Beast Box is a pretty nice mini-gorilla
>>5671975
That happened to me quite frequently for 10 years with Fortress Maximus/Scorponok until I finally got them both.
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