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>Recent rumors/news
MP Inferno coming, MP Grapple retool inevitable, anime color editions are now a thing thanks to MP Red Alert+
TF_Yuki teased UW SkyReign
>LG 27-LG31 revealed
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/takara-tomy-transformers-legends-lg27-to-lg31-revealed-fort-max-weirdwolf-blaster-wheelie-rewind/35328/
>suggested retailers for online+exclusives
BigBadToyStore (BBTS), Premium Collectables, Robot Kingdom, TFSource, Mandarake (for second hand tf's, may be cheaper than ebay in some cases depending on dollar exchange rate
For Latest UW/Legends/Japanese transformers News check out TF_Yuki, otherwise seibertron, tfw and all spark are your places to go
Previous thread:
>release dates
MP WHeeljack Reissue Late May 2016
MP Delta Magnus Auguest 2016
MP Optimus Primal Late October 2016
UW Bruticus June 2016
UW Computron Late Augest 2016
LG Shockwave & Cancer Late Augest 2016
LG Blur Late Augest 2016
LG Scourge Late Augest 2016
LG SkullCruncher Late Augest 2016
LG Hardhead Late Augest 2016
LG Galvatron Late Augest 2016
TAV Hyper Surge Optimus Prime Late June 2016
TAV Crazybolt May 2016
TAV Overlord May 2016
TAV EZ Collection Autobot VS Clamp Down Set Late May 2016
TAV EZ Collection Team Bumblebee VS Thunderhoof Set Late May 2016
TAV Optimus Prime & Grimlock Supreme Armor Set May 2016
TAV Bumblebee & Sideswipe Supreme Armor Set May 2016
Kabaya Gum Model kit Fortress Maximus Metallic Version Augest 2016
Hero of Steel - TRANSFORMERS Convoy (NON transformable action figure) June2016
>TBA releases:
Titan Returns line, possibly mid this year or least until shelf beta's clear
>>5660973
>Forgot to link old thread
>>5656139
Got a box today.
What's in the box?
>>5661064
Gonna hazard a guess and say Botcon Megatron.
>>5661064
spiders
>>5661066
>>5661068
I actually wish it was spiders once I was done.
>hasbro
I'm guessing hasbro is incharge of distribution of UW stuff, never seen a carton before, let alone a Takaratomy mall exclusive
>>5661069
Well, the contents of the box were a bit of a surprise, its mixed stuff I got from premium collectables, first thing is they sent me these stickers, luckily I have the figures to use them on.
Might help ease the pain of them being hasbro figures, not that takara has been kind to me
>>5661070
And now the ACTUAL contents, taken deliberately sideways.
>UW grand galvatron
>MP ramjet
>Platinum edition junkion set
Now beings the inspection which I knew was gonna be heart breaking
>>5661072
Now for the first heartbreak, I expected a collector coin for ramjet but according to PC and...everywhere I've read there wasn't a coin made, got the grand galvatron coin though (in previous post) but as expected mp ramjet was flawed, not the way I expected him to be.
>shoulders:Fine
>cosmetic wing panel:Still borked
>missing shoulder piece:Dafaq
Didn't even know about this one, not a massive issue since the missing panel is just for mp11's cape and crown, but...it still hurts, other than that he's the best seeker in my collection in terms of functionality.
Hasbro starscream a shit, takara ramjet still transitions far smoother, now to inspect grand galvatron to see if he's missing any paint apps, not gonna bother with the junkion set, they look fine currently
>>5661075
Now to give my review of UW Grand galvatron.
First off the bat, paint apps are good, nothing missing, guess the breakdown with missing leg details was a one off, but I wouldn't know, if anything I found more paint apps I didn't know about, the forehead on grand galvatron is actually painted silver but it blends in with the grey plastic.
Secondly, how is the plastic, well I gave ghost starscream a good old squeeze, he's very soft, I'm more worried about him melting than crackling apart, the blue sections most notably the tail fins are really squishy, but overall for him and...most of the team apart from rollar and breakdown feel quite soft in terms of feel.
Joints on ghost starscream feel kinda worn which is odd as he's using solid plastic on his balljoints and connecting sections, guessing qc on mine took a hit.
For anyone wondering, cyclonus is done in metalic injected plastic, he's VERY swirly so if you like that you'll love him, I'm dissapointed he isn't drenched in paint though his paint app count is off the charts, and that's before we look at the grand galvatron sections.
Overall, quite pleased, surprised by their softness but hay, few would have him and fewer still have the collector coin.
Unless a few people ask not gonna bother with the platinum set I got, they're an old mold that I just got as I wanted more bike formers, now I have them
>>5661062
Oi, Oi, whats this? somebody else posting my picture? alrighty then.
>>5661101
Oi, oi, what's this, someone taking credit for my picture? What nerve.
>>5661103
I'm the only OG here, baby.
>>5661111
>implying 6 other people haven't saved that image and titled it the same thing
Looks like takara is giving weirdwolf a new head.
>>5661112
Legit that's the first time somebody else has posted it, I don't mind though.
>>5661114
There's apeface's vehicle.
>>5661114
As expected, the takara versions get new anime matching faceswhile we get toy accurate ones.
So far the main bodies of the headmasters haven't made me jump to takara yet
>>5661118
Going hasbro on this one, It's cheaper, and looks less generic to me.
>>5661099
I do want to see the Junkions. Do you have some other bikeformers (like one of the Grooves or Legends Wreck-Gar) to display with them?
>>5661114
Weirdwolf-colored Apeface vehicle?
>>5661099
>the blue sections most notably the tail fins are really squishy
tail fins are supposed to be squishy though, they're rubber on the aerialbots
>>5660973
>suggested retailers for online+exclusives
>BigBadToyStore (BBTS), Premium Collectables, Robot Kingdom, TFSource, Mandarake
>No mention of Amiami or HLJ
>shilling BBTS
Get your baka ass out of here.
>>5660973
Could you suggest some retailers for people who live in Europe? All of those mentioned will rape you with shipping.
I know there's Kapowtoys, but what else?
>>5661197
I do, I also have a deluxe groove which would work better.
Sorry for the delay, I forgotten how much harder the generations guys were to cw
>>5661267
But they felt REALLY squishy, I know the originals were made of rubber, I got the UW aerialbots myself, just starscream's was even softer...thrust was a tad more noticeable as well
>>5661276
>calls baka
>demands japanese retailers
>>5660973
>Auguest
>Augest
>>5661324
Is there an original source to this?
>>5661198
It's kind of sweet that TR Apeface is almost a teeny-tiny Mega Pretender that you can put in your pocket
>>5661276
Its ironic, but I stole my release dates from amiami, I should also add hobbysearch and nippon yassan now that I remembered them.
Shall I remove bbts next time or will that be detrimental?
>>5661308
Oh shit, if ANYONE has any I hope they advise, you guys got it rough.
Any canadian retailers for those guys too?
>>5661328
Yeah I'm retarded
>>5661335
Keep BBTS.
Add amiami, HLJ, and maybe hobbysearch.
>>5661340
Done, I know hobby search's sales for UW superion and manasor makes them something special
>>5661332
I'd rather a actual Apeface.
>>5661344
>tfw you have an ape face but no Apeface
>>5661070
What's the quality like on those stickers? I've considered picking them up on eBay.
>>5661352
Lets see, bare in mind I have have an avid hatred for diy stickers (thanks to gundam models I switched to painting instead out of frustration, that and metroplex).
Glossy, feels smooth so I can guess it can take a transformation/handling here and there, can't judge stick quality as I haven't used them.
Thing is they're quite minimal when fully applied, and...I personally think its silly paying for stickers, would rather a water slide option personally, if you want them pay as cheap as possible, like $4 with free shipping.
Sorry if I'm not helpful, sticker bias, these turned out to be a freebie premium collectables just chucked in
>>5661364
No worries. That's about what I figured. Although one more question, are they just printed on paper? Or like the thin vinyl kind.
I found this on twitter.
>>5661375
Man, I've always wanted that little huffer. Such a cute mold.
>>5661375
God Rook looks so good in silver.
>>5660976
You also forgot to link to the new thread. You were too concerned with putting all that stupid information in to try and be like all the other Generals.
Enlighten me on this: they're gonna release a second type of TR (not)powermaster Optimus Prime?
>>5661403
Yeah. G2. Sword one.
>>5661406
any image?
>>5661419
Google is your friend
>>5660973
>the longest running Transformers series is also the only one without any Decepticons
what an odd turn of events
>>5661490
Hm?
>>5661432
The lack of paint on Hasbro's Titan Masters bother me. I mean why not put effort into the main gimmick of the line?
Thank god for Takara.
>>5661496
They are hunting and killing humans.
>>5661498
Now that would be a strange twist.
>>5661497
Because the only part that needs paint is the main bots face. Paint on the titan master, especially in the heavily used tiny head, means chipping.
>>5661099
I really like that shade of blue they used on Cyclonus. It seems pretty subtle.
>>5661497
It's not about "effort." It's about the fact that paint on a toy of that size that's going to be constantly transformed and played with by kids is probably going to rub off anyways.
>>5661521
...which is why takara's caters to a different audience.
Same toy, different market
>>5661532
If you're going to use the master as a head then the masters head paint will wear.
>>5661534
Depends on the usage, the different market I'm talking about is an older audience that may seldom transform them or at all.
Not like us or the intended hasbro audience where we keep switching them up, heck we don't even know the durability, might get broken pegs like that voyager brainstorm
does anyone have sauce on the addon that one anon made for onslaught out of another figure? It was the front of a truck to make him look leagues better and the piece was done in such a way that it could be removed and make a nicer backpack for bruticus. I need to see it again because i want to do something similar
>>5661541
It was made from the movie 1 deluxe Bonecrusher.
>>5661486
Does it really count when it costs like $5 to make?
>>5661541
It was from movie 1 deluxe bonecrusher
>>5661547
Yup. As much as I hate flash used on tv.
>>5661276
Too slow for HLJ. Too poor for BBTS. Sucks to be you.
>foc bruticus was the figure that tested the waters for combiner wars
>generations brainstorm was the figure that tested the waters for titans return
What's next?
>>5661557
Titan master prime leak
That image is all we have.
>>5661565
Pretenders.
>>5661569
He's talking about a custom, man.
I'm interested too, sounds neat
>>5661570
If they're done like this, I wouldn't mind.
The big bot is pretty cool, and the gimmick is easily ignorable if you're not into it.
I'd like Leader Bludgeon and Thunderwing done like this.
>>5661574
Here's your modern pretenders.
Did anybody here go to the "customizing classes" at Botcon? What were they like?
>>5661574
I just realized that Pretenders are like reverse mecha. A machine piloting an organic suit instead of the other way around.
>>5661594
>No sword
It's garbage. I like Max less than Metroplex anyway, but mine broke and I need someone to fight Trypticon.
>>5661597
What's that? Onahole mode?
>>5661597
Can't help seeing a beheaded robot lying flat on the ground with a fully erect penis.
>>5661599
>No gun
I don't even get his blaster
>>5661497
>Hasbro
>effort
Good one.
>>5661597
Can anyone with Metroplex fanmode a g1 Fortmax base? we must be able to do better than this.
>>5661627
The knees need heavy retooling to make the "towers", also the shins should be hollow like the g1 so the tights can lock inside.
>>5661651
>the one time they need to make something hollow
>don't do it
why are they like this to us?
I have to say, so far the Titan class has been a huge (ha ha) disappointment.
>make a huge cityformer
>give him fuckall accessories or extra weapons
>>5661724
it's expensive to make remolds, be grateful you're getting anything.
>>5661730
fuck yourself david willis you hack
>>5661730
>be grateful you're getting anything
Go. Fuck. Yourself.
Nobody would have complained if they had made him two thirds the size, with more accessories and -MAYBE- a better transformation.
>>5661627
Is this better?
>>5661681
I know, I'm saving so much money.
>>5661737
I thought the base was flipping me off at first glance.
hasbro groove when & where already
>How do you want your gimmick familia?
>JUST
>Say no more
>>5661724
The knee guns turn into handguns
>>5661756
Who let a Funpub guy onto the design team?
>>5661737
Nah, this, or bust.
>>5661737
Little bit. I wonder if the legs can still open. and whether than arm swing does anything.
>>5661768
Prepare to bust, m8.
>>5661756
Look's like we'll be waiting awhile for a proper good Glavatron, one that can hopefully also mount the cannon better, like on the side of the arm than on the front, since it looks better.
>>5661774
I already have.
>>5661064
Bees
>>5661756
>did we say helmet
>we meant face guard
>>5661115
Not like they have to ask. Fuck you.
>>5661793
My god.
>>5661565
Rhinox, Waspinator, and Rattrap were a test for new Beast wars.
It failed.
I'm not really much of a TF fan anymore, but it's weird to think we're in a time when we're getting a new, 2 ft. tall Fort Max toy and people are disappointed. Like back when I was in the middle of my collecting, it was exciting just to get something like Alternators Mirage or Cybertron Metroplex, which didn't even turn into a city. It almost makes me wish Classics never happened because it's spoiled us so much collectors now don't know how good they have it.
Oh well, it makes me free to appreciate a few of these new releases without the same pessimism this fandom is drowning in.
>>5661872
If you think Classics spoiled collectors, you should look at third parties.
Many collectors nowadays don't even bother with the majority of official stuff anymore.
>>5661872
Classics and the lines soon after also happened to deliver good toys with great articulation and paint considering the UT's issues with integrating gimmicks beforehand. Standards rose to the bar they set. Much of what is new is visibly cutting corners.
>>5661872
because Hasbro half-asses everything, knowing their loyal idiot fans will buy it anyway, as well as scream at anyone who isn't going to buy it.
>be thankful
when they give these toys to me for free, then I'll be thankful. Until then I vote with my wallet.
>>5661872
It's just the nature of Transformers collecting, I think. The franchise is so deeply-rooted in nostalgia that long-time collectors can't just drop collecting TFs in the chance that one day they get their ideal versions of toys they had as kids so instead they complain and bicker about not getting their way. Meanwhile you've got people who either didn't grow up with the entirety of the franchise or aren't intensely dedicated who are super stoked about stuff like Combiner Wars or Titans Return, possibly because they either haven't had the chance to be disappointed or don't let themselves get that invested.
>buy vintage G2 Laser Prime
>seller sends me E-Hobby chromed reissue, despite telling me the photo was of the actual item
Thanks, seller. Thanks for ugly chrome that's factory scuffed, for blank discs, for a blunted sword, and for lying about your photo. If I wanted the shitty reissue I'd have gone to a listing that pictured the fucking thing.
>>5661377
2nd-ed, i have Cybertron Armorhide
Any news on that mod from tfw who was waging war on trannies?
>>5661900
Ironically you can probably resell hat for more than an original Laser Prime.
>G1 colors version never
My trio of seekers came in today, loving it
Thundercrackers paint looks so good in person, kinda in the middle on starscream tho, but i adore this mold
>>5661915
I have one of all of the major Seeker modes in the last 14 years or so, and this is the only one I actually felt compelled to buy a full trio of. Such an underrated mold; everyone was chicken-little-ling about the FoC molds that they missed this figure which is easily on par with what we got in 2010. It's amazing to me how many TF fans just don't care about articulation and prefer the classics Starscream mold over this. Classics Screamer wasn't even acceptable in '06, let alone now.
>>5661872
All I can think of is the complaining over Devastator. We got the best official Devastator yet and it's damn good but everyone had something to bitch about.
>>5661932
>the best official Devastator yet
That's...not saying much, Anon.
>>5661768
i just tried this with my Metroplex and unless Hasbro comes up with some longer arm ramps and has done some major modifications to the legs i don't think we are going to be able to do this.
>>5661941
No, but it doesn't make it any less true. Look at CW/uw Devastator and then look at any combiner before. Its a fuckhuge upgrade.
>>5661932
>Devastator
>damn good
What flavor of kool-aid is this?
>>5661800
yeeeeeaahhh, i'm going to pass on Galvatron
>>5661597
This For Max is so sad. The original toy is better, that's pathetic.
Miss me yet?
>>5661900
He sent you the wrong item, so file a claim.
>>5661945
>No, but it doesn't make it any less true.
Tell me, did I say otherwise?
Just that it doesn't matter, because the figure still ended up looking like shit. When a figure looks like shit, people are going to complain regardless if it's the "best official Devastator yet".
>>5661953
I sort of do in a way.
He was trying to do something new and different with his stuff instead of clinging to the past and making it exactly like G1.
On the other hand we never would have got Combiner Wars or Titans Returns and those lines look great despite not being that original.
I'm mixed but a part of me wishes he could be their exclusives guy for future conventions.
>>5661851
I don't think they failed on their own merit, but due to the fact that some fuckin idiot higher up at hasbro thought it would have been a great idea to release the Thrilling 30 and AoE toylines simultaneously, having them compete for shelfspace. Either they wanted Thrilling 30 to bomb or were ignorant to the fact that retailers will always favor media tie in merchandise over non tie in toys. That's why none of it moved, people kept buying the movie shit, which took up 60-75% of the transformers section of the action figure aisle, so retailers kept stocking movie shit, gradually choking out CHUG pegs. That's the reason nobody saw the fembots or brainstorm, by the time the movie stuff cleared out and they could stock what backed up 30th stuff they had in inventory, CW was the new shit, so they never ordered the last wave of 30th.
>>5661952
No, the old toy may have a cooler city mode, but the articulation is so basic I just can't deal with it. More articulation automatically makes for a better toy.
>>5661956
>looking like shit
Haha. See. Nobody is satisfied anymore.
>>5661975
>Nobody is satisfied anymore.
It's just that you have very *low* standards.
>>5661987
Hoi doi how da view from up dere?
>>5661992
Go in your room and play with your shitty Devastator, Anon!
>>5661987
No. I just don't have the mindset that makes me in denial to the facts. How does something look like shit when it looks like what it's supposed to?
>>5661996
Shit proportions, nerfed articulation unless you got the Takara, etc etc.
Shit people have been complaining since it was shown. Just Google it up if you want to read, I'm not going to bother beating the dead horse.
If you don't mind significant flaws, good for you. Just don't expect people to accept it so easily.
>>5662003
>flaws
>two have elbow issues
Yep. All of Devastator is shit now.
>>5661946
Lime and grape
>>5661909
Do tell.
>>5661953
I don't know much about any of the designers (only been on the TF train since mid-2014), but from what I can tell, he was against combiners, skylynx, and headmasters. So no. I don't think I do.
>Rewind and Nightbeat
Waifufags on suicide watch
>>5661953
He wasted the time he had as a lead designer and Takara was frustrated by the limitations he and Hasbro kept imposing on them. Under his lead they took relatively few risks and towed the company line well. For all the complaints about half-assing now, he and his team half-assed homages way more, and unlike this team it wasn't something that could be easily "fixed" with a Takara redeco/remold. Good riddance.
Now Joe Kyde, there's someone I miss. He planned out the Thrilling 30, which was an exciting time that went out of its way to please everybody.
>>5661961
You've hit the nail on the head.
The current team is really creative and daring but they really suck at designs.
The team under Archer were all master artisans but they were really conservative when it came to pushing the envelope.
>>5662030
I still don't get why they gave Nightbeat a BW mouth. Not even modernBW toys do that.
Maybe Blaster needs more downforce while cornering?
>>5662051
>ugly gray plastic
Yep, gonna be sick.
>>5662056
Good thing you don't have to buy it :)
So I got Quillfire last week and today I got Thunderhoof.
I like him way more than Quillfire. No qc issues and well articulated with a good transformation. Even the antlers told up to get out of the way of the shoulders that some reviewers didn't catch and complained that they were in the way.
I love his gun design, but it feels like it was 3d printed. Not flimsy just grainy. Anyone else have the gun feeling that way too?
>>5662063
Aw are you still going to buy it even though you complained?
>>5662038
because siren and nightbeat where switched at some point, its a yelling face. some one had a good laugh about this one.
>>5662038
I feel like they mixed up the expression on Nightbeat and Siren.
>>5662051
Who do they hire to take the promo photos?
That was fast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyat92tCKQg
>>5662106
I think he's Asian so me seems to get releases before everyone else.
>>5662106
It's a bummer that only one arm has an elbow, but he still looks fun. He's going to pose on my Devastator. He honestly looks like an armada minicon as compared to the rest of the legion.
>>5662051
I thought you could fold the handle back?
Anyway, that shot looks way better overall than in the Chinese review.
>>5662118
>implying those idiots that do the photos know to fold the handle back
Remember, they also broke the front of the truck off that one Optimus figure.
>>5662122
It's not like they know anything about the toys.
>>5662122
kek, got a pic?
>>5662122
It probably popped off on the way to the photographer.
>>5661953
Not really.
What are some examples of ITS THE FACTORY'S FAULT incidents from Funpub?
>>5662161
My botcon Megatron missing a paint apps on the base of the sword/missile launcher, for one.
Donkey Kong repaint when?
>>5662171
How many figmas is this going to rape in the photo thread?
>>5662171
>Donkey Kong repaint when?
Just give him a necktie, that's what I'm going to do.
>>5662161
Any of the fucked up head sculpts from the last few years. There's an image that gets posted in the threads from time to time.
It includes:
>Punch/Counterpunch
>that Cheetor from Animated Blurr
>Metalhawk
And many more
>Devcon
>>5662178
He needs a barrel too.
>>5662175
Maybe he'll become the new rapedog.
>>5661756
He would be perfect for me if it wasn't for the head. I don't care that he's a headmaster, but the the fact that the head looks bad and the helmet can't even touch the face, it really ruins it.
I desperately hope some 3P comes along with a better head. That's all I want.
Do you think they'll keep Optimus' AOE design for movie 5 or change it? While I wouldn't mind a change, if by some miracle they made the second coming of ROTF Prime, it could be a fun figure. Not that it'll happen of course.
>>5662179
The Punch/Counterpunch image is misleading since it only shows the head sculpt, and not the SIZE of it.
>>5661497
Because maybe it's fucking expensive and a waste to put detailed paint on a figure that a kid will throw against a wall?
>Hated rook when he first came out and decided to pass on him
>a year later decide he's actually worth getting to stick on Sky lynx
>Can't find him anywhere for less than $50
I do this with every line. I wonder what titans war figure I'm going to think sucks, then end up wanting well after its off the shelves and the price gouging has set in.
![rampage1a-54066-1300-1300-90-wm-left_top-100-Unicroncomwatermarkpng[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4rEXarm.jpg "rampage1a-54066-1300-1300-90-wm-left top-100-Unicroncomwatermarkpng[1]")
>>5662230
What kind of headsculpt you want, Crabface?
>>5662245
>Just FunPub my shit up
>>5661756
>THE HEADMASTER GIMMICK IS UNOBTRUSIVE GUYS
>>5662254
It is. I don't think you know what unobtrusive means.
>>5662265
There is no neck articulation beyond swiveling left and right, huh?
>>5662230
>who ya callin "pinhead"?
>>5662226
>Do you think they'll keep Optimus' AOE design for movie 5 or change it
i dont think it'll change. alot of effort went into the new design to be just as dynamic and iconic as the old design, so i think it's here to stay.
>if by some miracle they made the second coming of ROTF Prime
one chinese fan designed an AOE Prime design that is screen accurate (cant find the vide though) so it is possibe.
just remember, it took us two movies until we got a good prime, so give it time
>>5662249
Its too bad, the colors actually look good on that mold. But that head sculpt...
>>5662230
holy fuck, was it actually THIS bad?
such a shame, i hear alot of people bought his one, too
>>5662249
honestly this doesnt bother me at all, Rampage is a very large and imposing character, so a small head makes sense. Not to mention his head has spikes, which are difficult to fit in the vehicle mode. which is more of an excuse than that awful Punch Counterpunch
Random question, but I'm more likely to get a response here than the bst.
Anyone have any version of this mold for cheap? Technically I really only need his top half if you have just that for some reason. I'm wanting to test a mod, but don't want to destroy any of mine.
>>5662267
We've been shown that they give the same amount of head movement as generations brainstorm. Hopefully it doesn't change upon release. But that's still not what unobtrusive means.
>>5662272
>to be just as dynamic and iconic as the old design
But it's not.
And I'm not even a fan of the previous movie design for Optimus.
>chinese fan designed
You mean Wei Jiang M01 Commander, It's of the "rusty" design, not the "main" AOE one though.
Fucking great figure btw
>>5662283
Seriously. This is thing is awesome in hand. Worth getting the trailer too.
>>5662283
I decided to get Quakeblast instead of this guy for now. I hope I don't regret it (´・ω・)
>>5662276
The best (worst) part was that FunPub NEVER showed a photo of the ACTUAL toy. People didn't know the size until it was already paid for and in front of them.
The problem is slightly less noticeable on Counterpunch mode, since it uses Sunstreaker's roof chest to make a slimmer torso, but that only goes so far.
>>5662286
Ah, I remember that video, I know what you're talking about.
And it's not a matter of my opinion on the new design (it's shit imo, but that's not the point), but it really isn't as iconic.
It doesn't even look like it turns into a truck
>>5662265
>I don't think you know what unobtrusive means
>helmet sitting awkwardly and not flush with the face
>huge chunk of grey plastic behind that ruins the look because muh transforming tiny robot
>partsforming
I think you're the one who needs to learn what it means.
>>5662301
>but it really isn't as iconic.
i think i used the word iconic wrong, what i meant was something eye catching, for the film's audience to grab onto, and for marketing purposes. I find it dynamic
>>5662301
>It doesn't even look like it turns into a truck
this is true and somehow it seems to be prevalent in many of the new designs. this is a big problem for robots who are supposed to transform into vehicles. at least throw some wheels here and there...
>>5661756
Any possibility that the crown just isn't attachd properly?
I mean, it's a Hasbro stock photo, and he's holding his cannon isntead of it being mounted.
>>5662305
It's not in the way. Unobtrusive doesn't mean ugly.
>>5662310
Unlikely, because even the Takara pictures show him with this crappy helmet, so at this point, it probably just sucks.
>>5662320
Looks like a prime candidate for some toy surgery. The helmet has to go somewhere so I figure he can have a permanent head.
>>5662318
>It's in the way of the figure being decent.
Hahaha now you're just trying too hard.
>>5662324
>mangling a toy because you're triggered by its gimmick
>>5662328
Not triggered. I like the headmaster gimmick. It just looks like this particular instance could be improved upon.
>>5662326
I was joking, smartass.
I'm not even the anon you were arguing with. The partsforming part I talked about on the rest of the post is still valid.
>inb4 jokes are supposed to be funny
>>5662324
The helmet goes into the chest. It looks like a pretty big chest cavity, so he can probably be modded so you can fit a head in the chest, and have that flip into place in robot mode, instead of just the helmet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7Dz-0nSKm0
>>5662331
Not really. It's a step in the transformation. It's not obtrusive. Weird that you would think that.
>>5662333
THAT'S why it looks so much more awful now, it LOST the purple paint apps from ToyFair that would make the head look more "complete" from front on.
Nucleon's now just solid gray except for his eyes, it looks like.
Was there constant bickering like this when Combiner Wars was first shown off?
>>5662333
Word.
Yeah, I bet I can work with that. Although I'll probably wait and see if someone else does it first. Heh.
>>5662249
I remember in 2015 some Fun Pub dealer was like selling the bodies for like cheap because they were all missing their heads. Some guy later bought every single one of those damn things. I wonder what you do with all those headless Rampage bodies?
>>5662348
Yeah, something about the proto for menasor having to be glued together iirc
>>5662346
To be honest, I don't think that it's that Nucleon "lost" the paint apps, it's just that he never had them to begin with. They always spruce up the promotional figures to be photographed at cons and such, and these figures are normally hand painted. Notice how Galvatron also has a nice shiny silver paint coat in the video, yet the actual figure just has grey plastic. Compare the pic to the video.
On the bright side, the solution shouldn't be too difficult if it'll look better by making the Titan Master purple. I've painted Warhammer minatures, this should be easy.
>>5662348
There was constant bickering when Prime was first shown off
There was constant bickering when Animated was first shown off
There was constant bickering when the 07 Movie line was first shown off
There was constant bickering when Armada was first shown off
There was constant bickering when Beast Wars was first shown off
There was constant bickering when G2 was first shown off
>>5662352
>3d print a proper head for Rampage
>sell the shit of those
>>5662328
>Literally a $25 toy that could easily be replaced if something bad happens.
>>5661872
>Classics spoiled us
You people really have the lowest possible standards if you believe that Classics was anything but average.
The highest points of the mainline have been RTS, HFTD, ROTF, and early Generations.
>>5662367
Man, we need a new Generations Sideswipe.
>>5662277
I have a Streetsmart. Wanna trade for it? I'm not looking for anything grand.
>>5662374
Shame about the entire rest of the toy, because UNF that headsculpt on Streetsmart/Prowl.
>>5662367
If you ask me the hight of Transformers engineering was RTS and the Universe lines. The movie toys were junk. CW is good but sadly it seems that TW/R is returning to the "cut as many corners as possible" mindset.
>>5662380
I'd say the opposite regarding CW vs TR. CW had tons of effortless repaints and outright bad design on some gestalts (sky reign, menasor).
TR seems like it'll have more unique molds and less repaints.
>unobtrusive
>>5662313
>not conspicuous or attracting attention.
The helmet is completely conspicuous and attracting attention to being more of an awkward clip on face guard.
>>5662377
That's why I'm looking for fodder to test with. I'd like to improve on it.
>>5662374
Anything you might happen to be looking for?Here's some stuff I was already trying to get rid of, but I have a sthitton more: http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/items-sale-trade/1057121-cleaning-out-my-closet-sale-cheap-open-offers.html#post13184003
>>5662389
Most of the TR figures are lacking in paint apps and are even more noticeably hollow than the CW figures. TR has voyagers with flip-out hands and exposed gaps in the wrists. That just screams corner cutting.
>>5662400
>TR has voyagers with flip-out hands and exposed gaps in the wrists.
How the fuck is this abnormal to you? There was plenty of that in Combiner Wars and just as much of it prior to CW.
>>5661872
IMO, it's just that Combiner Wars was a marathonic shitshow of effortless repaints and retools which; coupled with QC issues, figures nobody asked for, and the usual problems created by bad distribution; just tired people. I don't believe distrusting Generations at this point is unfair.
Also, FortMax is just another retool.
>>5661932
Shave 1/3 of the price of that Devastator and it might be worth it.
The combined form is alright, badly-positioned kness notwithstanding, but you can't seriously believe that the upscaled legends they used for the Constructicons are worth the same as voyagers.
>>5662380
>the hight of Transformers engineering was [...] the Universe lines
>The movie toys were junk.
>CW is good
What's wrong with you?
>>5662405
The movie toys were junk. Every single garbled greebled mess.
>>5662400
>TR has voyagers with flip-out hands and exposed gaps in the wrists.
$100+ 3P toys have that too, man. It's apart of toys.
>>5662409
The only toyline that can be compared to the heft and engineering of Cybertron are the 07 movie and ROTF ones.
That you don't like the designs or have the manual skills of a paralitic retard doesn't mean they are bad toys.
>>5662405
>it's just that Combiner Wars was a marathonic shitshow of effortless repaints and retools which; coupled with QC issues, figures nobody asked for, and the usual problems created by bad distribution
I have to agree. It started strong even with it's flaws but got messy after the wave 3 the 84 bots turn into combiners was just too much for me. not because it was the 84 bots but because the whole wave was Stunticons but with new heads right down to Rodimus. I would have handled the 84/85 deception jets better because at least those molds were used so much by that point.
>>5662394
>http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/items-sale-trade/1057121-cleaning-out-my-closet-sale-cheap-open-offers.html#post13184003
I'll take #50, What's your email?
>>5662415
>Cybertron
Should I get the Red Alert mold? I was watching a review of him and I really like how his shins are formed from both the front and back ends of the vehicle.
>>5662367
I meant by virtue of the fact that it was an actual G1 revival, not a half-measure like we where getting before, and I'm including all the classics style lines in that list(Universe 2.0, generations, etc.) '01-'05 was just filled with things like:
>hey its a vehicle Optimus! Its a firetruck and has almost no blue on it, but that's something, right!
>Oh look, a new starscream toy! It has a completely different deco with a huge backpack, but its face has a smirk!
>A totally different character repainted in G1 character colors!? Finally, a new toy of____
>New combiners!? sure they only slightly resemble the original characters and have different names,alt-modes, and two of the limbs are the same, but its something!
Then we got a full-blown G1 homage line(and now even more so with MPs)and the floodgates where opened.
>>5662415
Heft doesn't necessarily make a toy good. Over-engineering can make a toy un-fun. Ugly designs are part of what makes a toy, and can make the toys less enjoyable to own. Stop defending lame movie figures, they're terrible and your opinion is terrible.
Spent my time from a ban that was probably from one of those crybaby Allspark tranny dicktuckers reporting me to make these. The mold reuse seems much worse when you see them all side by side.
>>5662415
Cybertron wasn't that good except for a select few molds.
I'm not into the movie aesthetics, but they had much much better engineering than Cybertron.
>>5662432
>Listing regional exclusives
Takara and Hasbro are not intended to buy both of
>>5662442
They still exist, figured it was worth mentioning
>>5662432
>Listing Hasbro/Takara versions of the same mold
That doesn't count.
Or at least keep consistency of your wackypattern and list Silverbolt twice, he had a Takara release as well.
Scattershot half counts as reuse because Hasbro released him twice I guess.
>>5662415
The movie line's budget was mostly a waste. I actually don't mind a lot of the movie designs, but even as complex as they where, theys till didn't manage to really nail the look of the movie designs beyond a few golden figures. Long haul was great, but the rest of the constructicons where a wash. There where a bunch of generic characters that weren't even in the movie that had toys wasted on them. People keep praising that line, but so many of the toys are of who-cares movie characters. the fact that we could've had G1 Constructicons and dinobots with that sweet budget but didn't will forever be a disappointment.
>>5662449
I'm counting anything with a remold, or repaint as a different character. I only counted Cyclonus because it's two distinctly different sets of colors for the same guy, not like the CW/UW variations. Didn't think the G2 repaints would be worth it cause eh.
>>5662441
>NotOptimus, girl, Military, and superior nipponese folded steel
Girl Military when?
>>5662464
I'm not specifically doing it for any reason, just documenting. Some of it works well since it's not just one mold with a few heads.
You're not including the G2 versions?
>>5662470
Nah. I never cared about G1 guys in new colors, boring.
>>5662432
Yeah, there's a lot of mold reuse, but there's also more CW releases than there where of most classics series by year. Generations only had like 19 releases in 2010; and only about 11 totally new molds. even counting RtS barely increases that number.
>>5662418
I don't know why people complain about the waves of extras. You didn't have to buy'em. I bought only the G1 combiners, not too much mold re-use between all of'em.
Let the stuff you don't want shelf warm. Some bean counter as Hasbro will notice, and eventually they might get the idea that some remolds are bad ideas and don't sell, and to focus more on unique molds.
>>5661070
What's with the swastika hidden in Sunstreaker's stickers?
>>5662486
Yeah, if you stick to the Takara sets, you get all the G1 guys with no 100% reuses I believe.
>>5662491
Seig heil.
>>5662509
Because the image would be ridiculously huge. The images are grouped by mold. That's organized enough.
HOL UP
>>5662489
The problem with that is that if the early waves shelfwarm hard enough, you might not get the later waves at all.
Isn't Hasbro's Computron being released as a boxset because of that?
>>5662425
The deluxe or the voyager?
>>5662426
Ah, okay.
>>5662428
Yeah, about that. Unless it's Gao Gai Gar or something else with a similarly amazing presence, blocky robots are as lame it gets design-wise.
>movie toys are too complex
Sorry about your elephantiasis, man.
>>5662440
I should've said bang for buck rather than those two.
>>5662438
>The movie toys are absolute junk, they don't even transform so much as they bunch up inside a vehicle shell.
Better than having chunky, nigh-unusable limbs.
>They are ugly as sin as well.
Who cares? Monsters are cool but ugly. Robots are always cool.
Monstruous robots are great.
>>5662526
Shut up, autovolt
>>5662526
>blocky robots are as lame it gets design-wise
Opinion discarded.
Straxus was damn good.
>>5662528
Sorry but the truth hurts.
>>5662527
Who the fuck is autovolt?
>>5662455
If I gave a single shit about the participation of anyone in the movies I wouldn't be able to enjoy any of the toys.
Also, some of the strongest figures of the movie lines were the non-movie characters like Bludgeon, Wreckage, Mindwipe, Terradive, Jolt, etc.
>the fact that we could've had G1 Constructicons and dinobots with that sweet budget but didn't will forever be a disappointment.
I like to think of the movie line as the testing grounds for what we are getting today.
Sure, no G1 Dinobots and Constructicons is disappointing but they improved their game enough to make the near-perfect G1 Optimus, Datsuns, Soundwave, Shockwave, Wheeljack, and so on for the MP line.
>>5662541
YES.
What the fuck is this? What's that thing on top of his head?
>>5662551
Looks like a part was folded for him to fit in the packaging.
>>5662542
Your opinion doesn't matter. Stop posting. And those are different teams of people working on movie lines and masterpiece, your stupid is obnoxiously obvious.
>>5662551
>AND SO, THE HATMASTERS WERE BORN
>>5662551
He looks like he's wearing a sombrero.
>>5662555
Weren't the first figures of the revival part of the line made by guys who worked on the movie lines?
>>5662555
>Stop posting.
Make me, faggot.
>>5662551
>open hands that are molded to look normal when holding a weapon
It took them how long to fix this?
>>5662567
From the top of my head, 2010 figures already did this.
Jazz, Thunderwing, WFC Bumblebee, all had hands like this.
Not saying it was the first instance, but it's what I can remember right now.
>>5662491
Sunstreaker confirmed nazi.
>>5662491
>stuckup, perfectionist golden robot
>not a nazi
>>5662564
What the darn-diddly-doodily did you just say about me, you little witcharooney? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class at Springfield Bible College, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret mission trips in Capital City, and I have over 300 confirmed baptisms. I am trained in the Old Testament and I’m the top converter in the entire church mission group. You are nothing to me but just another heathen. I will cast your sins out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before in heaven, mark my diddily-iddilly words. You think you can get away with saying that blasphemy to me over the internet? Think again, friendarino. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of evangelists across Springfield and your IP is being traced by God right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggorino. The storm that wipes out the diddily little thing you call your life of sin. You’re going to Church, kiddily-widdily. Jesus can be anywhere, anytime, and he can turn you to the Gospel in over infinity ways, and that’s just with his bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in preaching to nonbelievers, but I have access to the entire dang-diddily Bible collection of the Springfield Bible College and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your sins away off the face of the continent, you diddily-doo satan-worshipper. If yonly you could have known what holy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you from the Heavens, maybe you would have held your darn-diddily-fundgearoo tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re clean of all your sins, you widdillo-skiddily neighborino. I will sing hymns of praise all over you and you will drown in the love of Christ. You’re farn-foodily-flank-fiddily reborn, kiddo-diddily.
>>5662551
so the croc head partforms then?
eh, i don't mind
Thunderwing/Black Shadow was a pretty great deluxe mold too. I'd be happy with a larger, some-sort-of-pretender Thunderwing, though. Someone suggested CW Ultra Magnus was a Pretender prototype, I wouldn't mind something like that.
>>5662646
Only thing I really dislike about that mold is the shoulder pad guns make it impossible to bring the arms completely forward. And it's too small, would've been a great Voyager.
>>5662650
I think the transformation is too simple for a voyager, but Thunderwing is someone who deserves a figure of that size.
>>5662654
Well, I mean like add some steps to it and a waist swivle. Idk, but yeah Thunderwing is a big guy, so he def needs a big fig.
>>5662658
>Thunderwing is a big guy
For you.
>>5662265
I don't think you do either.
Wait, is this literally a Jet Jaguar?
>>5662710
Wait. I didn't know about that chest megatron thing. That's a stupid but fun little gimmick. Grimlock being on primes communicator is part of what sold the original mp prime to me once I found it for $50 on clearance.
I know I'm a year late for this guy but damn he's fucking amazing.
This guy is my first masterpiece too.
Should I be prepared to be disappointed for other masterpieces?
>>5662728
now I gotta figure out how to print this pic out in good upscaled quality and then use it as a background
>>5662728
Is he able to hold the sword in a normal fashion?
>>5662728
>Should I be prepared to be disappointed for other masterpieces?
Generally, no. A lot of MP's at MP10 or above are pretty good.
>>5662739
define normal fashion.
the grip isn't too great
>>5662736
Yeah he's really great.
>>5662728
You gotta get the 3rd party hands for him. They're great.
>serial number printed on top of the head
Seriously Hasbro?
>>5662760
>That's great.
>I'm planning to get Masterpiece Great Exkaiser too.
>holy shit there's already a huge premium for this guy even for a brave series figure.
Just ask if any given MP is decent. Some have some flaws.
>>5662744
Like when you slice.
Sure you can remove it easily enough but come on.
>>5662760
This is where I got mine. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Keiths-Fantasy-Club-KFC-KP-09-Dark-grey-Posable-Hands-for-MP-24-Star-Saber-/261948872689?hash=item3cfd5e97f1:g:qWIAAOSw-vlVkWiY
>>5662775
Till all are one, brudda.
>>5662778
That sounds gay
>>5662646
Mine had two right arms.
>>5662769
I'm so excited for this. Hits 4 things I like. Small extra bot, good articulation, a sword, and a wolf.
>>5662781
You're a big guy.
some anon a thread or 6 ago brought up the idea of takara using the truck mold and a legend jet to have all six members? thoughts?
>>5662775
>thanks fellow cybertronian
the hands cant hold the sword in the right position, just wanted to let you know before you waste money on them like me...
>>5662455
>Long haul was great
it didnt look like this, so its not great to me
>>5663092
They're still better than the original hands.
>>5662746
When are we getting a titans Return Headmaster Star Saber?
>>5663132
Since Warden doesn't give a shit about him, never.
>>5663132
>Star/Victory Saber - Overlord retool
>Dai Atlas - Galvatron retool
>Sky Garry - Sentinel Prime retool
>Super/God Ginrai - Powermaster OP redeco/retool
Y/N?
>>5661805
lol
>>5663097
better than original hands, how?
does the short grip with the pegs actually go in the groove on the palm?
>>5663243
The fingers are a lot more articulated which is what I bought the hands for in the first place. All the weapons fit fine from what I can remember, sold Star Saber a while ago. There's an attachment that comes with the hands to hold the long sword hilt securely in the palms, but it still has the weapon facing the wrong way, which kinda sucked.
Besides that, I thought the hands were awesome and way better for gesturing than the originals.
New thread
>>5663286
>>5662491
it's what happens when they let Jin work for them.
>>5661915
Well, shit. I hadn't fiddled with this mold enough to realize that it had ankles. Thanks, anon.
In my defense, toddlers do things to free time that would be considered war crimes in any other situation.
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