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>Kabaya Fort Max to be rereleased in August with "metallic flake" plastic
>Victorion found in the US
>Masterpiece Inferno silhouette revealed
>Ultimetal Ultra Magnus revealed in color
I don't know about the rest of you, but I've never seen any of these sorts of sets at Target. Or Platinum editions for that matter.
>>5623490
I only ever see Platinum sets here in the Philippines, never those CW box sets.
Only place I've seen Devastators in so far was in the largest mall in the country.
>>5623489
>Kabaya Fort Max to be rereleased in August with "metallic flake" plastic
I'm...guessing there was an original version of this?
Otherwise, what are these like, I kinda want a fort max stand in since I don't have the space/budget for the titan fort max, my old generatiosn metroplex still has floor space
>>5623507
They're small, simple snap together models.
>>5623507
Yeah, Kabaya's Transformers Gum Fortress Maximus was originally released in 2012.
He's around Voyager size if you're interested, with a functioning Cerebros (but Cerebros's head doesn't transform).
How likely is MP Shockwave to get a reissue if/when the current run sells out? I'd like to get him, but can't quite afford it right now, but I'm also afraid of how much more I won't be able to afford him if my only option for getting him is paying rape prices on eBay later on.
>>5623539
Likely, along with a black repaint and maybe something else.
>>5623490
Lately I never see any voyagers in my area. Only Deluxes and Leaders. Walmart, Target, ect... I guess there is someone up the chain that makes broad generalizations about what will sell in each area based price point.
>>5623544
>huh. every time we get a new wave in, people usually buy four deluxes and only one voyager..
>What are you trying to say, chief?
>i think we should lose those voyagers.
>>5623543
>maybe something else
?
>>5623547
Wrong cluster.
>>5623543
>black repaint
I wonder if he'll be MP-29R, or a new character with his own number.
http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/04/22/happy-20th-birthday-beast-wars-314516
>>5623547
Shackwave, Hasbro redeco
>>5623560
Radiowave, Decepticon communications intern. Thinks Soundwave is the coolest shit and want to be like him.
f-finally
>>5623564
Good stuff. This is the first time I've seen an full written piece from TFW, rather than just a piece of news. How often do they make articles like this?
>>5623581
>Get your heads out of the sand shockwaves!
>>5623538
Oh nice, tell me, how painful are the stickers, is...the face a sticker?
Can it transform in one piece (apart from he head) or is there parts forming required?
>>5623589
>how painful are the stickers
not at all, if you dont like how you stuck them, you can always try again. Unlike Gundam stickers which get ruined if you didnt nail the first try
>is...the face a sticker
yeah... generally i superglue the faces on..
>Can it transform in one piece (apart from he head) or is there parts forming required?
other kits have partsforming, but considering how simple Fort Max is i doubt he has to partsform
>>5623581
wow, the details on the two toys are exactly the same, never noticed.
dont should call it lazy or not...
>>5623589
>is...the face a sticker?
Pic related. The face is a white plastic piece that fits into Cerebros, but the eyes and mouth are sticker details.
>Can it transform in one piece (apart from he head) or is there parts forming required?
Yes, it can transform properly.
>>5623602
Why is he crying?
>>5623581
>puts his Shockwaves together
>doesn't attach the hose to MP
Disgusting
>>5623605
Here you go. The sculpted detail is actually rather nice.
The paint was applied by the guy who posted the image; Kabaya kits are not painted.
>>5623626
Why thank you!
Hrm, the sculpt is a bit soft, looks like they tried to make the surface sticker friendly, I can live with this.
If all else goes wrong I'll keep him as a g1 stand in and wait for a sale with the legends fort max, much appreciated anons
>>5623606
>>5623489
>>Masterpiece Inferno silhouette revealed
I forgot about the G1 character for a second and with the OP pic I though you meant BW Inferno. Which, while kinda cool, there's way more BW characters I want before we get to Inferno. Megatron of course,Terrorsaur Cheetor, and most importantly, Dinobot.
>>5623634
Anytime, anon.
Here's a big gallery of the 2012 release:
http://news.tfw2005.com/2012/07/31/kabaya-dx-gum-transformers-fortress-maximus-in-hand-gallery-175629
>>5623656
According to Funpub they are the same guy now!
>>5623665
>>5623665
Are G1 and BW Silverbolt the same guy too?
>>5623672
No because Superion Silverbolt is one of the three dudes that form Magnaboss
>>5623490
>bought 2
>>5623489
>>5623507
>Kabaya Fortress Maximus rerelease
Here are the pictures that went up on HLJ.
[1/2]
>>5623694
He comes in three packages (because he's so big). Each coming with a smaller bot.
>Cerebros
>Windcharger
>Powerglide
[2/2]
Which to get, UW Grand Prime or the G2 Stunticons?
>>5623789
>Top
>Boring 80s colors
>Bottom
>RAD, sexy 90s colors
You tell me.
>>5623789
I'd assume the g2 stunticons would be cheaper, get that
>>5623490
What the fuck, it's out? Where do you live, Anon?
>>5623789
If the G2 Stunticons didn't have Dead End and Wildrider in those fruity colors, I think it would have been a great color scheme, unironically. Still,it just goes to show the insanity of G2.
>>5623789
Grand Prime isn't really worth it because he's not a G1 combiner, and G2 Stunticons are cheap as shit.
>>5623811
>Just by a bit.
Isn't it like $80 on Amazon? I think I saw G2 Superion sub-80 on Amazon the other day.
>>5623812
Not a G1 combiner, but a combiner made of G1 guys at least!
>>5623819
Well, yeah, but beyond Hasbro's really bright yellow Sunstreaker, the Hasbro versions are just fine and cheaper than a UW set.
>>5623812
>because he's not a G1 combiner
So?
>>5623789
G2 Stunticons way more cool looking.
I'm gonna repurpose these guys as new guys.
Reminder
>>5623864
Holy shit is that a fucking Flywheels head?
>>5623864
>Box robots could have been different literally who box robots
Meh.
>>5623864
I wish for a Titan Returns Leader class Shockwave
His second alternate mode is a base recalling the Decepticon Space bridge
His normal Cyclopean head can be hidden to make space for an Headmaster, his packaged headmaster turns him into Senator Shockwave
>>5623873
What about a six-changer Leader class with different head/colors and part retooling for Sixshot, Quickswitch, Shockwave, and something else?
>>5623873
Fuck, I'd buy the shit outta that.
![Turanic_Ion_Array_Frigate[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Squy1am.jpg "Turanic_Ion_Array_Frigate[1].jpg")
>>5623884
>>5623873
Also his cannon mode looks like this
>>5623864
As a G1 casual I understand why. I'm way more interested in what we got than the could'ves.
>>5623597
That's exactly what they're going for. If they were lazy, they would actually disregard everything about toy accuracy mold-wise. It probably takes more effort to adhere to a certain shape rather than shitting out a new one. Stop trying to fit in by complaining about everything.
>>5623910
Goodwill/ebay came though. It was $145 for the set with free shipping. Both perfect no issues. I hope other people took advantage of that deal
>>5623922
Nice. I'm saving up for a UW Devy myself. Used to own both Blaster and Perceptor as a kid, loved Blaster. Can't wait for his TR version.
So I have really kind of hated the Combiner Wars line since it started. I think the figures are all cheaply designed, engineered, painted, and produced and I'm bitter as fuck that the glory days of CHUG have been replaced by gimmick lines like this. I'm also upset that thy l not only is Hasbro cutting costs on these things, they're jacking up the prices for us. Because of this, I have largely been ignoring the line, save for a few that I was hoping could fit my CHUG collection but sadly, I just can't justify them being on the shelf with them. I even bought a Perfect Effect kit to make the Gestalt articulation actually worth a damn but it just didn't help. They stick out like a sore thumb with how different the aesthetics feel to me and how cheap they look by comparison. I recognize they're meant to be more for fun and not for collecting and they are kind of neat in that respect but I just couldn't get into the line.
Until last night. I was making room on my CHUG shelf and saw Skylynx there. I was gonna take him and the rest of my CW guys off the shelf anyway so I decided to actually try out his gestalt. I never actually did because everybody said it was floppy and shitty. I grabbed the Aerialbots as they were the only limb bots I had and had an epiphany. The line finally clicked with me and I realized just how fun these guys are, cheap and shitty as they may be. I still feel the same bitterness toward the line but I'm actually finding myself wanting to start buying a bunch more and having them on a different shelf. It took one of the shittiest figures in the line to make me realize how fun they are and now I want more. I even ordered G2 Menasor. God help my wallet now because my hatred for the line was helping me save money...
So, when the fuck is G2 Bruticus coming out? I want it.
>>5624057
Wow... thanks phone for borking my post...
Anyway, I also actually kind of really like Skylynx's big floppy ugly gestalt. Really, QC is the big reason it sucks but some of Skylynx's joints actually add some extra articulation thanks to them not really tabbing in. His rear leg swivels can be used for a butterfly joint in gestalt mode and the hip joints actually add extra movement to the shoulders. It's actually pretty neat. It's just a shame the QC sucks and makes his legs want to fall apart and flop around.
I wish more 3P companies focused on HasTak's own CHUG aesthetics. Instead it's just MP stand-ins and messes like this.
>>5624069
You can fix the legs, it's extremely easy.
>>5624057
Considering the history of combiners past Beast Wars, I didn't have much faith in CW.
>Micromaster Combiners are almost entirely kibble
>Energon was minmaxed to put out more teams rather than have unique team compositions and had minimal articulation
>PCC was a disaster that shelfwarmed into forever
>RotF had a giant waste of money and a tiny miracle
>FoC hit during a budget crunch that made sure Bruticus suffered
>Beast Hunters Abominus was more an easter egg than anything
Turns out the pressure to make an entire line of the fuckers instead of just having one or two waves dedicated to it makes sure the system works better than anything we've had before.
They gave up trying to have dedicated engineering for the limbs to be arms or legs aside from some ports on the feet. The arm mode is just the legs, and the leg is mostly just the vehicle with the front folded up. And that's all they ever needed to be.
The torsos revolve around locking into place solidly and don't try to intrude upon the job the limbs have (That being said you miiight wanna look into an add-on for that G2 menasor's shoulders)
And the legends class companions can be a bit intrusive but are ultimately harmless. That being said, I love the idea of Powerglide on the Aerialbots and Shockwave on the Combaticons.
Ultimately the line is definitely doing more right than it has wrong.
>>5623656
that 3d-printed BW dinobot is fucking hot. I bought 2 just to support that guy's work (Steel Planet). I will also be buying the "leader" sized one he is refining/releasing later in may/june.
Nearly perfect BW Dinobot.
>>5624106
God I fucking hate both major 3P Computron lookalikes on the market simply because they have too much shit carved into them to look like anything other than jagged hunks of plastic.
Not to mention both of them take on enough artistic liberty for the CW computron to be screen-accurate in comparison.
>>5624121
>And the legends class companions can be a bit intrusive but are ultimately harmless.
I fucking love Shockwave. I went out and bought a full team of Decepti-limbs and Cyclonus just so I'd have someone to wield him.
>>5623694
I'd be all over this if I hadn't just gotten a good deal on an Infinitor.
>>5624057
Honestly Anon, CW was literally the best line of combiners we've ever had.
The aesthetics hit that G1/CHUG feel that people want. The figures themselves are solid enough in every mode except for Menasor's torso and Skylynx's fucked ratchets, one of which is a design issue and the other is QC.
Yeah, theres heavy mold re-use, but if you only grab the G1 combiners with their original loadouts, there actually isn't much mold reuse.
>>5623691
Fools and their money. Just like those idiots that shell out for botcon.
>I spent $1000 and all I got were repaints and the flu
>>5624138
>I spent $1000 and all I got were repaints and the flu
I wanna see this on a shirt, with the botcon logo on the back
Can't wait for more UW news. They first revealed UW Computron back in March, so they should start posting something around early May for the next one. Hopefully, they skip Sky-Reign so we can learn if they're doing Leokaiser.
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guys help
i'm trying to talk myself in/out of getting an Encore FortMax.
FortMax has been a grail since I was a child, but He's such a brick (even if that's the selling point).
>>5624162
Get the Kabaya kit instead
>>5624166
>Buy a Gum kit instead of the 3rd biggest Transformer made
Idiot
>>5624174
>3rd biggest Transformer made
>>5624174
>not buying a smaller/cheaper version of something fuckhuge that you think you like but might be disappointed with
Worst-case scenario it becomes a trial run
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>>5624166
I considered that, but it kinda removes the whole spectacle of owning FortMax.
I've got the Grand Maximus-recolour of Infinitor, and he's nice albeit the issues, but again he doesn't scratch that GIANT NOSTALGIA HOLY GRAIL that the original would.
>>5624176
Yeah. New Fortmax> New Metroplex > Old Fortmax
>>5624178
go big or go home
I doodled a little design for Oil Slick today. I know, I'm not great at drawing.
>>5624134
Most of the line is pretty good. Some molds definitely could've been designed better but every line has bad apples.
My Blades doesn't have a cracked port like many other people here, but it does have worrisome stress marks on those thin walls and I had to shave down the hfg peg just to be on the safe side. My Sunstreaker has a hairline crack in its hand because the gun-handle of its weapon is far too thick for hands. Now I just have him hold the sword-handle with his other unbroken hand.
My Brawl is actually perfect though.
>>5624222
>My Brawl is actually perfect though.
Considering its missing an actual midsection and all.
>>5624106
Make Toys is an interesting beast, to say the least. I don't mind that they don't go for screen accuracy, really, the problem I have is they often go for completely off the goddamn wall. Their Computron is a good example of that, as is their Skorponok. With the exception of Super Robot Hot Spot who is kind of love him or hate him, the Protecobots at least don't go as far out of whack as the Technobots. Not screen accurate at all but at least less of a total mess and can fit on a CHUG shelf.
>>5624222
Yeah, my Blades and Vortex both have stress marks. This is looking more and more like a design flaw that might bite people in the ass later on, but only time will tell.
And luckily, my Brawl's fine as well.
>>5624222
I just wish the Helicopter mold had been fixed at some point. The hand/foot port tends to break, or end up with stress, and the combiner port is at a weird angle, so using it as a leg is a disaster unless you plan on using 2 helicopters for legs.
>>5624233
I wonder if one could take the hinged port piece from the Dead End/Streetwise mold to replace the copter mold's one? Cut out space for it to fit between the legs in the various molds?
worth 35$?
>>5624244
hell i'd pay that for Snapdragon alone.
>>5624244
Do Snapdragon(?) and Weirdwolf come with their Headmasters? If so, definitely. Otherwise, probably not unless you have tons of nostalgia for the combiner limbs.
Action masters and jumpstarters are kinda lame
>OG Grimlock becomes super-intelligent
>Builds a combining warrior team out of the remains of a god of chaos
>RID15 Grim gets amped up
>Fights worse and gets locked in indecision
Why is RID15 so shit?
>>5624261
Different versions of the same name.
>>5624261
>Why is a new cartoon not like my 30 year old cartoon from before cartoons where well written?
>>5624280
There were well written ones, just not ones from the eras of toyetic or Hanna-Barbera's many samefag shows of limited animation
>>5624280
>before cartoons where well written?
>>5624280
>B-B-But writing characters that I like doing poorly isn't good writing!
I still have no clue why Geewunners praise the original cartoon for anything other than it being nostalgic for them.
>>5624291
it doesn't mean the new cartoons are somehow better, though.
I've finally accepted that brick TFs can be fun. Any recommendations? All of the really neat ones seem to be Braves or from Victory.
>>5624261
He's the same Grimlock as much as this guy is
>>5624298
step in to the light that is DX Braves.
>>5624309
But they're all so expensive.
>>5624291
Because massive diverse armies of giant alien robots waging war and other actions with superpowers pulp-tier plots to gain unlimited energy, and crazy world building based on what sounded cool while also doing commentary on contemporary issues like political strife and environment. Many different cast members with different personalities, looks and skills, while current ones tend to homogenize groups and lower them to far less members.
>>5624318
Depends on the toy, from my experience. Some of them are dead cheap, others (even the korean versions) can get really pricey.
I got a KR TriBomber for around 30 quid, but had to pay 80 for the 4th member (and had to middleman him frim japan), for example.
>>5623796
Go back to Allspark Walky.
>>5624225
I know you're the one Brawl hater in the thread, but please explain how that is anything beyond an aesthetics issue? It's a 100% subjective thing, and I think he looks much more appealing than, say, the Breakdown mold.
>>5624324
>while also doing commentary on contemporary issues like political strife and environment
Please, I love G1 but let's be honest here, you could hardly call any of that commentary on real issues because of how watered down it all was.
Also, G1 cartoons and comics were about selling toys first and foremost, not world building and character development. See massive armies was great and all and lent credibility to that this was a massive war going on but it also meant that many characters got little to no focus and who was important depended entirely on what toys were coming out at the time. It's still fine to include all of these characters but if they're not going to properly flesh out a character, I'd prefer that they stop pretending that character is important while the toy is on shelves and drop them like they never existed as soon as the next wave comes out.
>>5624303
>>5624348
>colors are the same
Maybe RiD Grimlock is this Grimlock.
He didn't have any memory at the beginning, maybe he's a deception dinobot who's modelled himself after Grimlock.
>>5624340
>I know you're the one Brawl hater in the thread,
>delusion
I own 2 complete combiners, Devastator and Metroplex
I fear I have a problem buying big toys but Fortress Maximus looks so good.
Should I buckle down and get him?
>>5624324
>while also doing commentary on contemporary issues like political strife and environment
It's funny watching people try to squeeze as much substance as possible out of a shallow toy commercial.
Finalizing my hlj warehouse to ship soon. Should I grab Armada Thunderhonky or Quillfire?
>>5624328
I love how Captain Shark looks. I'm a big fan of the chiseled face sculpts in general on Braves. Screw mouthplates.
>>5624382
He's really fun to have, I don't regret paying over the odds for him.
Would kinda like the train guy to go with him, but he's rare as all fuck.
>>5624385
Yeah, maybe when I'm no longer a college poorfag I'll try collecting Braves. They basically utilize all my favorite design elements you see in TFs- blocky design, silver, human-like face, combining stuff into larger "super modes", and nontraditional altmodes.
>>5624367
If you want him and have room and the cash for him, you could get him. Thats all there is to it, really.
>>5624390
I went balls-deep with Braves stuff a number of years back. Even with the shitty articulation, I still love them.
>>5624390
You're going to be paying off those student loans for the next 40 years (only 20 if you're a doctor!), so you might as well start now Anon.
>>5624396
Yeah, I'm beginning to stop caring as much about articulation on stuff like this in favor of cool gimmicks and nice aesthetics.
This version of Rumble was awesome
>figure never
>>5624428
Any more of him? I've always like the way that DW comic was drawn.
>>5624390
>>5624396
It upsets me that Brave aesthetics are probably my favorite mecha designs in general yet we get so few articulated,fully transforming toys. SoC GaoGaiGar is one of my favorite things I own, and I'd gladly buy a whole line of SoC Brave stuff. Part of me even wishes death on some part of the TF line, just so takara might do their own line of brave style toys without Hasbro's limited budget.
funny though, Takara's Unite Warriors seems to not be selling that well, while CW is selling like hotcakes. It amazes me how some things like Aerialbot limbs sell for half the price a takara superion would cost. Maybe such a thing would make Takara shy away from combining figures in the future.
Anything I should buy with my hlj warehouse was considering thunderhonky armada or Quillfire? But I can probably ask for those for my birthday next month maybe.
>>5624435
Him and Frenzy are barely in it unfortunately.
>>5624444
That's a shame, I wonder what he looks like under all that gear. If they ever do another convention crossover thing they could do a figure of him.
>>5624452
What freaks me out is that he's totally a normal human sized robot. I never thought about how scary an earthquake machine disguised as a person was.
Also Frenzy transformed into a fucking grenade.
>>5624181
4th, Overlord is taller than old Fort Max
>>5624472
Can you back that statement up?
>>5624472
No they aren't.
>>5624162
Fucking do it, then fill him up with Minibots and Micromasters. He's a great centrepiece to any G1 collection.
>>5624291
Hilarious episodes like Triple Takeover are what do it for me.
>>5624358
>CW Devastator is usually around 240 bucks in stores here
>Now on clearance for 120
Should I?
>>5624499
Cant forget the real Ghostbusters. That was genius for a commercial.
>>5624498
BLITZWING HEADQUARTERS!
>>5624503
The earlier seasons were fucking gold, man.
>>5624500
If you have the money, sure
>>5624291
In all fairness some episodes were well written still kids television to be sure but intresting plots
>>5624498
Coach! It's a tank! What do I do??
>>5624303
There is an episode he wears a costume that mimics a crane (poorly).
So yeah, he is a composite Grimlock.
>>5624527
This honestly got a chuckle out of me.
>>5624542
>my little pony
>>5623864
>Reminder
That you're an insipid entitled faggot? We all know, no reminder needed
>>5624558
Looks like xiavier and beast's son.
Stock images of Legends Stripes and Rewind have popped up online. Get hyped.
>legends dirt boss that forms helmet for titan devastator never ever
>>5624581
That would look stupid. Just make it a big targetmaster. Possibly a hammer or wrecking ball.
>>5624298
g1 Soundwave, Perceptor and Sixshot are all fun.
So it turns out my payment for the 4.0 Figure Subscription never went through. Now I'm not sure if I should be sad that I'll be missing out on some of my favorite post-86 decepticons (Matrix Quest was my shit) or if I should be glad to have money to put towards UW Computron
>>5624500
I personally just indulged and got the Unite Warriors release.
Cost vs Quality, that's your lot.
Also, remember, it's effectively 6 Voyager class toys. 6 x 20 = 120.
>>5624309
I need that to cannibalize for my G1 Sky Garry.
>>5624106
That looks like a great LEGO build.
>>5624625
That becomes a head?
>>5624670
Again. A head is a better idea than a helmet, but it would have to be smaller than a legends.
>>5624672
A vagina-esque headmaster?
>>5624639
Is that the one with Skywarp and Ramjet, or the one with the Paradron Medic?
>>5624498
I hope his headmaster is named Coach.
I've finally created recreated in Kreon form the leaders from Beast Wars, BWII, BW Neo, and Victory.
Post your Kreo creations! Here's a Fortress Maximus I found.
>>5624296
True
The Armada - Cybertron shows are proof of that
But the issue taken that rose all this is rather a strange one considering both are written about the same level.
Honestly I'm more surprised what started it was the cliche of "dumb character gets smart" it's very overused and is almost a given in shows anymore.
>>5624716
I wish there was more of a helmet variety for these guys.
>>5624723
Even a different set of colours of what currently exists could provide room for creativity, but unfortunately Kre-O gets shafted a lot with issues regarding retailers, and we still have no news about any upcoming sets...
>>5624121
>Micromaster Combiners are almost entirely kibble
I think those molds actually predate Beast Wars...they were originally Japan only until Energon came around.
This doesn't exactly look like a firefly with the no visible antennae and horn and rounded body structure and all.
What the fuck is she then?
>>5624745
Alien bug robot
>>5624734
Well that explains a lot.
But it raises the question of why the hell did they release it in an era where they were hideously outdated in comparison to everything on the shelves.
>>5624745
Ask /co/
>>5624790
What would those people know about insects?
>>5624057
>>5624121
This current design team gets a lot of flak, and the budget issues mean they're not quite up to the 2010 stuff; but I feel like that era's design team would've massively fucked up and given us something nowhere near as faithful as what we got in the last year. Like, yeah people complain about Alpha Bravo and Offroad replacing old team memebers, but the old design team would always say things like (paraphrasing, of course) "We can't sell too many designs with the same kind of vehicle mode in the same sizeclass" or "we can't have too many toys be the same color". Like a 2010 Superion probably would've had a helicopter AND a bomber and a commercial airliner and an F-22, with a torso that's a non-Concorde. while that isn't the worst sounding thing and could've been kinda cool, a lot of people would've preferred a proper Superion update first. Devastator probably would've been colored like his movie self.And the whole line would've probably had some odd overlapping gimmick that caused some hinderance to the sculpts.
So honestly I think CW came at a perfect time; tis team basically wants to do G1 toy updates and this line fit them well.
>>5624244
The classic jumpstarter twins, Topspin and Also Topspin
But no seriously that's an absolutely fantastic haul for 35 bucks.
>>5624801
They watch the cartoon and that's what you're asking about.
>>5624812
It literally doesn't exist outside of a quick flying in in the show and has not been mentioned and they are too busy circlejerking about how some person on twitter is horrible for calling writers ablest.
>>5624821
Okay. Still. If you're asking about something in the cartoon only then ask them. Or Google. Or realise that an alien doesn't have to look like an earth creature and quit worrying about it.
>>5624823
>Alien altmode when all the others on the ship have a specific Earth animal basis.
>>5624826
And it's clearly based on an insect. You're just wanting a specific type. Not all of them have specific breeds they are based on. You just get the idea of what genral family area. Holy shit it is beyond not an important matter.
>>5624832
Insects are the most diverse things ever. Like just beetles include like 25% of all species on Earth in them.
>>5624838
Your point being?
>>5624807
>budget
Hasbro has the toy rights to/owns some of the most popular fucking franchises on the planet. They can't be making so little money as to justify some of the shortcuts they make in terms of quality.
>>5624842
Wow
>>5624842
You do realize most of any money a company makes on a product goes right back into the company's ability to continue manufacturing that product, right?
>>5624842
Why do you think that the toys to some of the planet's most popular franchises have also had to cut corners?
>>5623888
Holy fuck, that is a gorgeous Ion Array Frig! Where did it come from? HW:CE?
>>5624687
The one with the Mayhem Attack Squad. I already have the Botcon Spinister, but the Combiner Wars mold looks loads better than the 2010 copter mold they used. I also had Cybertron Swindle as a Ruckus standin, but that looked kinda crummy. I really wanted those new Needlenose and Windsweeper though, so I'll probably just ebay the 4 limbs and forget about Bludgeon and Impactor.
Also Voyager Thunderwing when
>>5624563
>how dare you not like what Hasbro put on your plate!
>>5624900
More like "Stop reposting the shit graphic we've already seen last thread."
>>5624900
I understand that you're not satisfied with the way Titans Return has been handled thus far.
But you know that Hasbro isn't forcing you to eat it up, right?
>>5624909
I completely understand how that anon feels. Hasbro is raping our 40 yr-old childhood!!! The RAGE!!!
>>5624946
Springload anon, I think it's time you make new pics to post. I see them in almost every thread. A little variety would be nice.
>>5624949
That's the one with the angry expression. It's new. The differences are subtle.
>>5624951
Looks like the same old basic shit to me.
>>5624572
I find it interesting how they compensated for Rewind's arm gaps by alternating which sides of his arms have the gaps.
>>5624964
I also like that there's clearly another bot somewhere in the card art. Too bad Stripes still looks terrible.
>>5624967
Why do they keep making cassette cats so ugly? This one looks more like a dragon.
>>5624967
Not like Laserbeak and Buzzsaw have drastic more alien looking designs.
>>5624969
I'm pretty sure they intended for that mold to resemble Steeljaw, but couldn't give him the proper mane because Ravage's head shape took priority.
I don't like the mold's body either way, but at least the Ravage head looks more appropriately jaguar-like.
>>5624972
>>5624967
Here's the other Toy Fair Aus pic of Ravage for comparison with Stripes.
>>5624972
god what a waste of remolding, Why didn't they just make Stripes an orange Ravage in the first place? Unless Stripes is a dragon now?
>>5624975
If there's anything I wish they remolded, it's the dumb airplane cockpit in vehicle mode. If you're gonna look like a partly-Cybertronian thingy anyway, just go whole-hog with it. Don't slap a human airplace nose on your music brick.
>>5624967
Who's that Con in the background of his card art?
>>5624979
that and flip over the wings or something it just looks tacky and stupid and if the stickers are as shitty as buzzsaw's were oh man...
>>5624870
>Also Voyager Thunderwing when
The TR Sentinel mold looks a lot like Thunderwings inner bot, so maybe they could do it as an exclusive?
>>5624986
Keeping my thumbs crossed.
Would be awesome if they based the headmaster on the outer shell.
>>5624967
Then
>Plane on box
Now
>Plane in box
>>5624979
card art looks like booticuss
>>5624909
I'm glad that you understand that some people aren't going to buy everything Hasbro shits out.
>>5624712
>>5625127
Of course. Not everything they release will be to people's tastes, and that's not a thing that can ever be changed. What I don't really like is when some people act as if those toys are the only choice somebody has, or as if those are mandatory purchases.
What use is an image that reminds you of what could have been? Neither Hasbro nor Takara are likely to revise their product lineups because someone figured out better ways to handle a line.
>>5624842
Look, it all seems unfair, too, but at the end of the day that's not how it works.CEOs aren't going to take a paycut just to funnel that money into Transformers.
>>5624964
I like the arm transformation because it gives me the vauge hope they have piledrivers sculpted into the space under the arm that continue into that additional section.
>there is a scale argument between generations rhinox and mp primal
Does this help anyone?
>>5625287
Or this even?
I r ant
>>5625291
And finally this.
...I could care less about the scale since I only have the original rhinox
Figured since only shockwaves hand can hold the gun I better find someone who can hold his hand.
Now everyone is gonna pay
>>5625299
Once more, not sideways this time?
>>5625299
Lugnut is mad as hell and he's not gonna take it anymore.
>>5625304
Fail. Brb, killing myself. Fuck I hate this phone
>>5625299
>>5625304
>>5625308
>Once more, not sideways this time?
>>5625304
Last try
>>5625314
Got there in the end, buddy
>>5625299
eh, it dont bother me cause Shockwave never shrank down like Megatron, so he was never used by other people (other than Bruticus of course)
>>5625334
That's one weird thing I always liked about Shockwave. Despite transforming into a space gun, he seemed more likely to use himself as a turret than trust himself to the hands of someone else of his own volition.
>>5625308
Crop the photo even just a pixel then post.
>>5625328
>gif is from 2006
>that gif is a decade old
time flies.
>BB, Fixit, Windblade vs Thunderhoof
>OP, Drift, Ratchet vs Clampdown.
Poor decepticons...
>>5625388
>that legion Windblade
Well, they tried.
>>5625390
You can see that they even tried to put her in a girly pose.
>>5625388
Where's Crazybolt anon? I wanna see the part of his Mini-Con where Takara's clear peg goes.
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i caved.
i picked up fortmax.
>mfw no food or heating for a month
>>5625413
Where at?
>>5625403
The new peg is attached to the same square slot where those clear armor runners go.
IIRC, one of the previous pics showed Takara changing the runner to have a 5mm hole so you can peg the minicon on it still
>>5625413
Yeah but, man, fort max, totally worth it
>>5625419
Okay cool. I hope their runners are opaque plastic though, because if both the peg and the hole are clear/translucent, that's bad news.
>>5625393
Well, it'd have to be made of engineering magic, for one. The Voyager is a pretty great update of both the original toy and show model, but it does have some big differences from the show model. Notably the head;the show model had a thing where the mouth line went across the whole head, with full, human-like lips; the Gen figure's head is more traditional Transformers-y. The showmodel has huge shoulderpads the gen toy hints at with green between the torso and arms. The show model also had a bigger "kilt"" (owing to the original toy's massive kibble). Most notably, the whole gen toy's torso is based more on the toy, with the show model's wide proportions. It has the detailing on the jaw and the loincloth flap of the original, while the show model had a massive, blank rhino jaw taking up the whole torso, and no loincloth.
The Hardhero statue is a good example of a perfectly on-point show Rhinox. Doing the lower jaw on an MP would probably mean a huge fake piece of kibble; maybe the chest houses a giant fake jaw.
>>5625413
>i picked up fortmax.
I'm not even a G1 collector and I bought him back when he was released nonetheless. Totally worth it. Titan Fort Max has a really good head sculp and better proportions and articulation, but nothing beats the city mode and 16 deployable cannons of the G1 toy. Even the spaceship mode look cooler than any of the shitty alt modes of the Titan.
>>5625436
I'll give the titan one thing, his space cruiser mode is close enough, the city mode is crap and a fault of the gen metroplex design.
That said it mirrors the alt city configuration gen1 fort max can infact do, which is how hasbro justifys it
>>5624870
>>5624986
>>5624988
It's just not going to happen. If Hasbro had planned for a Voy TW from Sentinel/Astrotrain, they would never have okayed the Thunderwing Combiner that Funpub designed. It's the same reason why the Thundertron Alpha Trion got changed to the Cheetor Alpha Trizer (because of the Titans returns Alpha Trion).
>>5625458
>the Thundertron Alpha Trion got changed to the Cheetor Alpha Trizer
What is this? I never paid attention to FunPub.
>>5625461
It doesn't effect the toy at all since its still effectively Alpha Trion visually, but fictionwise this exclusive, which was planned to be a homage to the unreleased BM Snarl as AT, was explained in the fiction as being Cheetor, way off in the future, who just adopted this form.
The idea is that sinc eHasbro was designing their own lion Alpha Trion, they asked that fP make it so this was a different character.
>>5625467
Oh. Was he released in like, 2014? That would be the earliest point in time where HasTak may have started working on Titans Return.
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>all of this TAKARA WINS AGAIN
>>5625491
>LGEX
Do the BW rereleases not have their own numbers?
>>5625491
>Already own the stateside released Rhinox and Rattrap
>Will probably buy the new Rhinox and Rattrap
God damnit Takara
>>5625495
They're show exclusives like the black repaint of generations g2 optimus and armada leader megatron, they get no numbers.
>>5625491
Should I buy their upcoming Rhinox? I never got the mold.
Did Takara fix the loose knees last time?
>>5625491
jebus i want that Blurr
