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>>5310892
So is it true that all base modes will connect?
>>5311003
/toy/ needs MOAR
>>5311003
Thats the old dying thread now. This here's the new one. Whee.
>>5313529
But if they stocked up, where is it all? I don't see any on the major sites (Amazon, Walmart, etc.) and not even the specialist sites seem to have stuff like Onslaught for anything but pre-order, unless I missed it and all current stock sold out already.
is there a difference between takara whirl and the hasbro one besides paintapps?
like any noticeable QC quality?
Is it too early to start looking for the new little Legion Shockwave?
>>5313639
Just a bit.
>>5313639
it just came out in taipei not a week ago right?
i think it's still too soon anon kun
>>5313639
Someone had pictures of him in-hand, but yeah, probably. I want him so bad along with Bruticus. He needs to be here to balance out my stuff, along with the other Decepticon's I'm waiting to get in the mail.
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>mfw UW Defensor and UW Devastator are going to be my Christmas presents
WOOOO! TRYPTICON WON!
>>5313686
How will they fuck it up?
>>5313688
By making it a Metroplex retool.
>>5313691
fuck
>>5313691
Knock on wood.
>>5313686
>>5313688
>>5313691
>>5313693
>>5313697
I was thinking about this the other day. I'm thinking that They can totally make a stock frame, and make Trypticon, Scorponok and Omega Supreme from the same mold with retooling.
I mean, a Dinosaur Mode isn't that far from Scorpion mode, which isn't to far from a hulking behemoth robot mode either... and each one of them turn into a city/base correct? I mean, I hope Im wrong, but I can see hasbro doing it.
>>5313704
>a Dinosaur Mode isn't that far from Scorpion mode
>>5313651
>86 movie crew
>Defensor
>Chromia
>Windblade
wat
>>5313711
Yeah, I just named it that without thinking. Mostly because it has Hot Rod/Arcee/Springer in it, and I'm waiting on Ultra Magnus, Cyclonus, Blitzwing in the mail, and the upcoming Galvatron and Astrotrain whenever that gets released probably in 3-5 months.
>>5313710
Its not. Slouch it over on two legs, dinsaur/kaiju mode, lay same mode down on stomach, add some scorpion legs and replace the kaiju tail with a scorpion tail. Imagination bro, use it and be enlightened.
>>5313720
Oh, and the rumors that more of the 86' crew will pop up as -Masters (probably Targetmasters?). Hopefully we'll get a new Hot Rod(imus?) and Kup too.
tl;dr That shelf is my "All of my other dudes/86 movie guys" shelf.
>>5313723
Best guess: Base body will be a big square more or less, with different molded details. Legs and arms can be interchanged easily, dino tail swapped for scorp tail. Trypticon will be more humanoid to make him a better overall toy (ie: No stubby shit tier t-rex arms, more vertical rather than horizontal stance).
Great, now I have two years to track down a Generations Metroplex that isn't half a thousand dollars...
>>5313722
My favorite part was in the Battle of Autobot City where Lugnut and Devestor fought Grappel and Warpath.
>>5313727
Correct, and from trypticon, stand him up right...replace his head, and you got spreem.
Also, I'm going to go one step further. This is Hasbro, I bet both spreem and trypticon are going to have same "one claw hand, one missle/gun hand" that turn into a rocket ship, just in a different color... maybe a remold... but I doubt it.
Anybody order that oversized MP-8X KO? I'm kind of interested, since the original is so hard to find at a decent price.
>>5313738
I don't think they'd give him a claw/gun hand. I do thing Scorp and Tryp hands will be very similar though. Scorp will probably be one big claw each like normal, while Tryp will probably have 2 fingers and one thumb, but still in a sort-of claw configuration (basically, remolding the outside of the claw as 2 fingers rather than one, uh...Outer claw?).
Omega will probably have a similar setup, but with 2 "thumbs" perhaps?
I mean, at this point, it's about trying to ingeniously use what you have, I can't really fault a company for it, as long as it looks right.
>>5313764
Where can i order the KO?
>>5313767
They're on ebay. Cheapest price is about 157, free shipping.
I can't wait for the Grimlock retool of Trypticon.
>>5313730
The Battle for Autobot City was great for making the whole situation so desperate, but man did I hate that the Decepticons left this fight with zero casualties.
Hell, depending on the continuity, and cut content, even more Autobots died.
Does RiD Megatronus have problems with stress marks on the elbows?
I don't know if I'm seeing stress marks near the pin on mine, or if its just swirls in the silver plastic.
>>5313768
That's 157 USD, right, with free shipping to America? God damn, with the conversion rate, I may as well just buy a new one, but I already have both MP-08 and MP-08X.. i just want a decently scaled Grimlock. I wonder how the quality is.
>>5313688
>How will they fuck it up?
By reissuing the g1 toy minus the walking action, adding lots and lots of greeble, and making him a headmaster.
>>5313801
In the 86 movie at least some of the Decepticon's died. You can probably write off everyone who was dumped off Astrotrain at least, given they were reforged into completely new 'bots with different personalities.
>>5313801
If I remember correctly, the Autobot deaths were:
Movie:
-Before the battle: Ratchet, Ironhide, Prowl, Brawn
-Wheeljack, Windcharger, Huffer, Optimus
Added later, or not in the film:
-Trailbreaker, Mirage, and Red Alert
Then there's the guys who were there, but never show up after.
>>5313850
Not counting the reformatted dudes, the only casualties the Decepticons get are nameless generics during Unicron's attack
The characters who are suppose to die in this attack are Shockwave, the camera trio, and the coneheads, but the only one's who die are the coneheads during the film (and they show up alive later...).
>>5313856
Oh, and Starscream. Sort of.
>>5313866
I wouldn't say "sort of". He died pretty hard.
Then there was the ghost thing, but we don't talk of that because that was retarded even for G1.
>>5313873
>Then there was the ghost thing, but we don't talk of that because that was retarded even for G1.
That's why I said sort of, he's not really dead, just running around being an asshole.
Buzzsaw, Shockwave, and Chopshop are on HasbroToyShop. Code CYBER gets you 20% and free shipping.
>>5313801
Well, Shockwave got killed by Unicron. So, that's something?
>>5313885
I really wish I was in the US right now.
>>5313813
Pls respond
>>5313813
Yup, some cheap fucking plastic on that guy, such a shame
>>5310892
Im not even into transformers as much anymore, but ive always wanted a citybot, are they releasing trypticon anytime soon?
>>5313885
Dude thanks so much, just snagged Shockwave for $9 shipped. Awesome.
How much do you think the titans will cost?
This poor fag really wants Blaster.
>>5313885
>Hasbro doesn't ship to PO Boxes
FUCK. ASS. SHIT.
>>5313917
No idea, Metroplex was 109-129, while Devastator was 142-150.
>>5313923
I changed my address to the post office's address with unit #mypobox.
>>5313885
Fucking awesome
>>5313885
goddamn, i'm jelly
hasbro malaysia sucks major balls
>>5313885
thank u 25$ shipped ill take it
Want to read something funny?
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/701/524/709/power-master-prime-aint-right-dammit/
>>5313917
Blaster is Leader-class, so ~$45.
nothing more beautiful than love between 2 seekers
>>5313997
scans?
>>5314017
Second
Would be hotter if they were TC and SW though
>>5314029
True but I'll take seekers stuff anyway I can get it.
>>5313885
fucking damn it, ordered all 3 without the code and then came here
>>5314029
how will you tell the fucking difference in b&w
>>5314125
Their personality traits obviously
Do you even tf yaoi??
>>5313885
I'm skipping Buzzsaw and Chopshop for now I assume they'll be the wave's warmers. I mean we'll get Laserbeak eventually right?
I barely remember Buzzsaw, I felt like was the guy Shockwave shoved in the back along of his deck along with Enemy.
>>5314168
>I barely remember Buzzsaw.
He was barely used since Soundwave came packed with him, so there was no need to advertised him. While he wasn't used very much in the show for that reason, he's extremely memorable in the G1 marvel comics due to an extremely hilarious panel that has him beating Omega Supreme.
>>5313885
Got shockwave and fracture. Thanks!
Too bad I'm not a fan of the mold chop shop is using and the buzzsaw looks boring as fuck.
>>5314174
I can't find the panel
>>5314193
Not hard to Google buzzsaw omega supreme.
>>5313885
Tempted to grab Chop Shop, but I just picked up the armored battalion set. Also holding off on Shockwave until I see Takara's offering; crazy, but I have a feeling he''ll be packed with their Bruticus. I wish I could get excited about domestic releases again.
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I wish every CW toy was of this quality.
>>5314218
I get you're a troll, but it doesn't work since we know you have no idea of the quality.
>>5313686
Enjoy your forced Headmaster.
so, whens that MP Road Rage coming out?
>>5313801
The autobots outnumbered the decepticons, so they had to clean house of them more. It was all making room for new toys. The story needed bodies for unicron to change into minions, decepticons would not have taken their dead, they don't do that.
just imagine reflector died
>>5314310
I was thinking of skipping the hasbro version of shockwave so I could get the takara version, but then I saw that hts was having its sale, and then I remembered that the takara and hasbro legends aren't usually all that different, so idk what to do
>>5313651
who do you have coming in the mail?
>>5313764
I'd order it if he wasn't comic-book colored. As it is, it's cool, but a pass.
Legends Class Shockwave is up on Hasbro Toy Shop.
Use the code HOLIDAYFF and it's like 7.50 at checkout. Great deal.
>>5314397
Die
What kind of speculation do we have for TRYPTICON so far?
>retooling of existing figure
>heavily stylized so g1 purist may get upset
>not in scale with metroplex
>takara version cost 2x as much with more chrome
>hasbro version has limited distribution
>They don't produce it at all
If its like the art work we may just get raptor-con
>>5314405
WFC version!
But probably not.
So he...really is a silverbolt retooling, a very heavy retooling.
>>5314450
man, i love the high collar
i dunno which mode i love more, all of them are great
>>5314453
I'm going to get him just for the fact it's the closest we can get to a decent modern interpretation of him, with bonus combiner mode.
If I do use him in combined mode I can free up my optimus maximus limb set.
Though I dread...what could takara do with him, what WILL they do?
I have a theory, its a long shot but takara releases an online exclusive version of him with another massive retool as liokaiser, the shuttlemode ,ight be stuck but they can just force feed us the fact liokaiser is the main event and not the robot modes.
>>5314495
bw rampage's spark was an attempt to duplicate starscream's spark
>>5314218
That would be better if he was riding Wreck-Gar or one of the Junkions.
>>5314450
>Make a dinosaur spaceship from retooling Silverbolt
>Don't make a spaceship from retooling the plane guy
hanks
>>5314450
Nah, he has the same transformation scheme than his G1 toy (minus the split), only similarity with Silverbolt is the head of the main bot ending on the bottom/back of the combiner. Saying that he is a retool of SB is like saying RTS Jazz is a retool of Uni Prowl.
>>5314528
So...its not a case like airaid and skydive then?
>>5314529
Not in the slightest, they just look similar because both have the same desing since g1, "planes carring huge boxes under them".
>>5314528
So they are only not retools because they used two molds despite using the same transformation scheme
OK, seeker fag.
I know we have issues with the retooled seeker molds, but help me with my thoughts.
>Own hasbro mp mp11 starscream, acid storm, sun storm
>found old mp3 hasbro skywarp for $138 free shipping
Should I break sequence and get it because that's cheap, box and all?
The main concern is the only matching thundercracker is takara's which always go for shitloads since hasbro went straight for the mp11 mold which still at absurd prices
>>5314379
I actually prefer the comic book colors, mostly because of the silver paint vs. gray plastic, but it is a confusing choice. You have to wonder why they would KO the version that requires more paint apps and will likely attract fewer buyers.
>>5314397
I'm more bothered by the mods coming along and mass-deleting 20 posts or so late in each thread's life. It accomplishes nothing, and causes generals that should be dead to come back to life.
>>5314393
Already known.
>>5314555
By that logic, you could call Prime Bumblebee a retool of G1 Jazz
>>5314617
Same engineering so cheaper production costs.
>>5314408
Thankfully not, you mean.
>>5313764
He aint fuckin Omega Supreme. Dinobots are only a head taller than Prime
>>5314640
Yeah. Maybe in that frame. Never EVER go by the g1 scale unless you're an idiot.
>>5314617
They are
>>5314640
>>5314648
This.
People using a G1 cartoon screenshot as a basis for bitching about incorrect scale is ALWAYS hilarious, because a 30-second Google search will always turn up a completely contrary example.
Although, to be fair, he's right. The official G1 size chart shows Grimlock being only a head or two taller than Prime.
>>5314511
In my fanfic, they all ride junkion cock
>Just ordered my Legends Shockwave
Phew, I was worried I'd never get a hold of him without having to order a case. And you know he'll be one of those figures that never will make it into stores.
>>5310994
Yes, all base modes can connect through the magic of a table.
>>5314666
The legends seem pretty well distributed. The only one I've never seen in stores is viper.
>>5314664
So you write for idw?
>>5314674
I've seen Viper in stores, but I feared Shockwave would be difficult because not only is he being released at the end of the year, which is never a good distribution time, especially with Star Wars hogging the shelves now, but he's going to be probably the most demanded figure to get.
>>5314684
Online retailers will definitely have him. I'd order him right off Hasbro if the fuckers actually delivered to PO Boxes.
>>5314405
If it's a retool or uses any past tooling, it'll be very little..it'll probably be a near new mold....
>>5314684
I have a feeling Shockwave will be more than plenty come February or March when retailers overstock the first wave of the year and then delay everything else afterwards.
>>5314674
>The legends seem pretty well distributed. The only one I've never seen in stores is viper.
I never came across Swerve, Cosmos, Huffer, Blackjack, Bombshell, Skrapnel, or Powerglide. Every time I checked out the legends pegs, it was nothing but fucking Seekers and Groove. I learned to stop wasting gas and just ordered them online.
>>5314557
I will sell you my used one for $50 + shipping right fucking now, I hate this mold but my figure is fine
Behold ye holy scalechart
UK anon here, just got my hands on Springer and Jetfire, Passed up Rhinox, but now I kinda wish i'd got him. Did we get Blitzwing? I was looking for him, but none of the places had him.
>>5314717
If you got springer, you got blitzwing, they are wave-buddies.
>>5314720
That's what I thought, but I ain't seem him though, today was the first day i'd seen Springer,Rhinox and Jetfire, It's almost like they're bringing them out gradually.
>>5314706
That's already known you retard, and to further solidfy your stupidity, if you bothered to read the reply train you'd notice it started off with someone who mentioned they bought a Shockwave, and was mentioning that they were concerned it'd be unavailable later.
>>5314363
>You know these G1 designs need to be cool and hip? LOTS AND LOTS OF GREEBLES
>>5314423
One of those is the 3P thread
>>5314745
To be fair that is a different and better promo code from the original post.
>>5314770
More like Rodimus Convoy needs to not be a camper truck
>>5314770
Greebles are cool.
Go back to the 80s if you want your shitty robot drawings.
>>5314770
>LOTS AND LOTS OF GREEBLES
I take it that "greeble" has now come to mean "any kind of detailing that wasn't present on the half-assed G1 cartoon cels" now?
>>5314405
>retooling of existing figure
I can kind of see them doing a Trypticon retool of Metroplex resembling the gladitorial Zone Trypticon, but I think a new mold is more likely.
>>5314870
>Zone
>Implying HasTak care about Zone
It's a shame too since it actually could have been a good series.
>>5314870
I just want a camel.
Well it took me like 4 days but I finally got around to taking a better picture of this.
And to that one anon that asked me to take it one step further, fuck you I'm not about to potentially break my £300 brick for a quick laugh on a Somalian child rapist forum
>>5314992
And I lied.
Cerebros definitley made some noises he probably shouldn't have trying to get this photo though.
>>5314992
K then, you non-playful-petey.
>>5315007
Thank you.
Had it like this at first to make sure Cerebros could actually hold the weight without his legs snapping off.
>>5314219
>light piping
>three weapons
>pinned wheels
>hurr we dun no the quality stop trolling just because you posted something i can't afford
LOL
>>5315013
Keep trying.
>pinned wheels
Still don't see why Thats any improvement. Does the exact same thing as clip wheels, but takes away any ability for simple repairs or customizing.
>>5315037
>people still supporting clip on wheels
disgusting.
>>5315055
>people still trolling without an original bone in their body
Disgusting
>>5315037
>Still don't see why Thats any improvement
Clipped wheels break easier and they don't roll as well. Sorry you're butthurt that you can't afford a clearly higher quality toy, my friend. ;)
>>5314363
Bunch of shit. Lets see..
CW Ultra Magnus, CW Cyclonus, Blackjack, Groove, Generations Jhiaxus, CW Powerglide (I like his gun mode), Voyager Blitzwing, Perfect Effect hands/feet for Menasor/Defensor/Superion, and CW Chopshop and CW Shockwave (after talking to a Hasbro cust serv dude to make sure they actually ship to PO Boxes, apparently, the PO Boxes they don't ship to are Canadian, so I shouldn't have any troubles or so they said).
Still waiting on finding a good deal on all of CW Bruticus, but he's going to be my last purchase for the month because I'm way past broke right now due to me starting my collection up.
>>5315074
See. Fake trolling is obvious. Work on it, bro.
>>5315080
I wouldn't say fake trolling, just low quality bait.
>>5315089
Idk. I have a feeling they really don't have an opinion on the wheels or anything like that. They just want to stir up shit.
>>5314870
He kinda looks cool. it'd be a neat exclusive redeco/retool....maybe they could do that for the SDCC 2017 exclusive?
>>5315075
sounds like you got it made.
suck they don't ship to Canada PO Boxes...when will Canada get its due.
>>5315114
Nah, I'm just a huge poorfag who knows how to save money so he can at least secure a tiny amount of Christmas joy for himself.
Any tips for pin removal? Do those automatic center punches work? A hammer + pin punch is a pain in the ass to use and sometimes doesn't even work anyway.
>>5315185
Heat gun/hair dryer, just focus it on the part for 3-4 minutes, then you can push the pin with a small screwdriver, if it still hard, try another 3 minutes, but don't let it on for too long, you may deform the plastic, this also works to get rid of stress marks.
I liked the deco but hadn't picked it up because I thought the arms weren't articulated. But she's actually pretty good. Any other current legion class that's worth getting?
>>5315265
Fixit.
>>5310892
So... we're all in agreement that a third party is going to release a shit ton of add-on ramps and stuff to make Prime look more base-like, right?
>>5315289
We are not a hive mind. We're not the fucking Borg.
>>5315289
at bare minimum, a new chest panel to pop off that greeble pile and replace it with something that isn't ugly as fuck.
Again, enjoy spending $20 or more to fix something Hasbro couldn't just done themselves to start with.
>>5314794
>>5314800
Too bad they're just empty hype.
>>5313923
Why don't you have a home address, you poor fuck?
>>5313639
i ordered one from hasbrotoyshop today
>>5315443
Look more solid than Hasbro's current offerings.
>>5315452
You answered your own question there, Skippy.
>>5314707
>Robot mode scale takes priority over alt-mode scale
Disgusting.
Finally got my Nightbird in, she's fun as hell. Best buy I've had from Transformers in ages.
>>5315497
Doesn't that make more sense though, since a lot of robots can easily be compacted down via folding limbs/parts/etc to similarly sized vehicles, given most are jets/cars anyway?
The problem is usually that robots with normal-ish sized robot modes end up turning into ridiculously huge/small shit, like Broadside and being a aircraft carrier, or Soundwave's tiny boombox alt mode turning into a huge robot.
>>5314363
buzzsaw and shockwave
>finally pick up Blackjack in the wild to complete my Menasor
>mfw he doesn't fit on Motormaster's chest-pegs even a tiny bit and falls off no matter what
Anybody have this problem? Considering filing down the sides of the pegs a little bit, as they seem to be stopping Blackjack from sliding on snugly.
>>5315549
Common issue. There's a shapeways adapter that's $9. Sounds like a lot but it works well and gives a blaster. Has the ability to go on the figures back as wings but that's better for hot rod obviously.
>>5315549
Literally everyone has that issue, not even Takara fixed it on UW Menasor. All you can do is just sand it down as you said until he fits properly without falling off.
>>5315524
My theory is that those guys can physically become larger or smaller because of tons of folding panels and one super hollow mode, one super dense mode. They more or less alter their density through transformation drastically. For example:
>average weight boombox decompresses into a boombox-weight robot/average weight robot compacts into a robot-weight boombox
>average weight aircraft carrier packs down into aircraft carrier weight robot/average weight robot decompresses into robot weight aircraft carrier
If we're trying to make sense of transforming cartoon robots, soundwave and broadside are probably made of tons of little tiny panels in a similar manner to bayformers.
>>5315556
>>5315557
Glad it wasn't just me then, thanks anons. I had been going to skip him and all the other 6th-members, but it's been months since I bought a new TF and when I saw Blackjack I figured he'd make a good generic Decepticon even if I didn't keep him combined with the others. I kinda like how he goes with Scamper that came with Metroplex, they share some transformation features.
>>5315559
I just assumed good old fashioned mass displacement. They just shove the excess mass into a pocket dimension because "robot space magic don't think too hard on it".
>>5315563
Yeah, it's kind of like the excess plastic problem with Blitzwing-Omnipresent, every figure has the problem. Kinda sucks Takara didn't even bother to fix it, but given you can solve it with just a bit of sandpaper it's not that much of an issue.
And yeah, I'm grabbing Blackjack just to have the full roster of Menasor.
>>5315559
>Aircraft carrier is made of thin stretched out panels so it would be weak to punctures and sink
Nice meme
>>5315567
Yep, mass shifting is a Canon explanation.
>>5315549
Here's an easier solution to the Blackjack problem.
get some krazy glue with the hard plastic case and pen-tip applicator, the liquid kind, not the gel. Push the applicator tip on a covered surface (use some printer paper) until it makes a small puddle, then rub the applicator tip around the rim of Blackjack's back peghole (not the one that seperates in his legs), do 4 or 5 circles around the rim until it's fully covered, then set Blackjack peghole-side up, let him dry for a few hours.
If you did it like I did, Blackjack should now pop onto Motormaster's chest pegs with no problem.
Legs for days?
Or years!
>>5315656
God damn it Ross.
Bought the Autobots cars at TFSource. It sucks that they won't have a torso until Sky-Lynx.
Anyway, I really want to ditch Sunstreaker for someone else. Any suggestions?
>>5315062
I have no idea why you think they're good. Big fucking deal, you can replace them if they break. I have NEVER broken a wheel. In fact, clip wheels are more likely to break. The sad part is that they suck at their primary function. My Blackjack and Ultra Magnus don't fucking roll worth a shit.
>>5315110
>people are calling me out on my shit taste and ignorance
>th-they're just t-trolling... yeah, that's it!
>>5315652
>rub the applicator tip around the rim of Blackjack's back peghole
Lewd.
>>5315656
I love that wonky bastard.
>>5315656
I recently found this guy in a duffle bag with my other RID dudes and Burning Justice Prime, but I can't locate his hands...
>>5315778
Projecting: The Post
>>5315810
You don't know what projecting means.
>>5315734
Not going to use them with Optimus, or don't plan on getting one?
>>5314770
I just hate the washed out colors. The over-designed details is one thing, but the coloring is just like IDW colors: weirdly faded and wrong.
>>5315832
I didn't want Optimus , so I'll wait for Sky-Lynx since I've liked what I've seen.
>>5315814
>Psychological projection, also known as blame shifting, is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against their own unpleasant impulses by denying their existence while attributing them to others.
>claiming to like clip-on wheels because they are easy to replace/repair, something only a hamhander would care about >>5315037
>denying that you are a hamhander while accusing others of it >>5315778
Check.
>asserting that others are trolling by calling you out on your shit, because you can't face it. >>5315080 >>5315110
>denying that and shifting them of the same because they saw through your charade >>5315778
Double check.
Defined. Summarized. Cited.
Your status: REKT.
>>5315840
Literally none of that is projecting. Someone broke their toy and blamed the toy. They got called out on being hamhanded. Wheres the projection?
>>5315840
Hm. So this is what mad looks like
>>5315840
I get everyone wants to stir up shit, but a good example of where clip on wheels are more convenient is in warrior class optimus. If they were pinned in then fixing that fucked up arm transformation would be a huge fucking pain in the ass. With them being just clipped on its makes it a simple mod.
>>5315840
>Autism
Check
>>5315837
Ah, thats a shame. I really like the CW Optimus. He's just got a nice, big, beefy presence. The only thing thats a little "off" about him is his small base head. They should've made it at least Motormaster-sized.
>>5315265
I really really like Grimlock. They've tweaked the standard transformation a little bit, and although it is very simple and simplified, it works very well.
>>5315864
>clip-on wheels are good because they help fix the lazy engineering mistakes
You guys will grab onto anything, won't you? Fucking Hasbro apologists.
>>5315851
>Faggot: HURRRRRR, Clip on wheels are great because they are easier to repair!
>Sensible board patron: Actually, clip on wheels are more prone to breaking in the first place.
>Faggot: DURRRRRR, stop breaking your wheels you hamhander!!!!
It is projecting in the most basic sense. You are not perceptive. It's okay. I hear they hire folks like you to work the night shift at Carl's Jr.
>>5315800
I have them chilling on my display with the Protectobots. Rescue vehicles all over the place.
>>5315898
Oh so you REALLY don't give a shit. you're showing this by literally making zero real arguments. just buzz words and insults to get people huffy. I get you don't have anything better to do, but you should really get out more.
>>5315524
>I want a handgun the size of a semi truck!
No thank you, sir.
>>5315559
Even worse.
>>5315567
It's fine for G1, but it's such a half-assed way for doing these things when we've got so many engineering programs to prevent scale issues. Basically, I'm ok with it if it's only for G1, but forcing Mass Shifting upon EVERY series afterwards seems lazy.
But then I want to see a Megatron with a massive Napoleon complex running around causing hell for Optimus Prime and co.
>>5315866
These are my opinions on both Motormaster and Prime:
Motormaster had a great robot mode, but his legs in torso mode look awful.
Optimus, is bad (in my opinion) on a lot of things. His head is small, and his chest looks weird, while his torso has the same leg issue. I also would have really liked if Prime's chest in torso mode was similar to Energon Prime's.
Unrelated to the above, the thing that really annoys me is that this mold would have looked better if they based it on Energon Prime instead of G1 Prime.
>>5315964
What about MM with the fixed leg ratchets?
My friend hyped me Totally not Ultra Magnus but I haven't pulled the trigger to just get him.
>>5315969
They're fixed in the UW version and in later wave versions (look for an embossed code on the back of the box beginning with 5, I think is the fixed hips US versions), but they're still nothing that super special. Menasor is still the worst of the gestalts, but overall he isn't that bad.
tl;dr Menasor is the bronze medal. Doesn't mean he's bad, but he's the worst of the lot. I still got him, and he's pretty cool. Just gotta be more careful in posing him. I'm going to see if getting the Perfect Effect hands/feet set helps any.
>>5315976
And this is why I got the PE upgrade.
>>5314466
maybe the Purple Griffon Robot?
>>5315976
Go for the knock off set. Half the price and give the same features to the combined mode. Just no guns. The guns suck anyways.
>>5315977
The big like, back plate thing? PE 4 or whatever? I've heard it really restricts movement overall for him.
>>5315987
Fucks the leg movement, but he at least looks bigger and more imposing .
I need to save up for the devestator kits, at the very least the fucking elbows.
>>5315987
Honestly it only restricts the backward movement of the legs but honestly how many times would you pose that thing with his legs bending back? With that set standing him alone would make him look imposing enough.
>>5315497
>alt mode scale takes priority over robot mode
>in a franchise where broadside exists.
sure thing buddy
>>5316002
Crap I posted the picture with that AB that I tried panel lining and failed miserably. I should take a new one after I cleaned up that AB as much as I could.
Ignore my crappy work on that AB, I already removed as much ink as I could. I just need to replace him with a new one or something if I find one for stupid cheap.
>>5315999
The elbow kit is pretty cheap for what it provides. Its not just a cooler weapon or add on. It literally adds better articulation to the set plus the guns. Well worth it.
>>5316014
Yeah there's tons of kits to fix the head and vehicle modes but only one for elbows, so I figure I should grab that out of the way.
>>5314450
>thinks this is somehow Silverbolt retooling
It's no wonder Hasbro doesn't listen to you guys.
>>5316017
Definitely. Everything else seems to just be for looks or a few more neat but unnecessary features.
Not to say they look bad or anything. I would love the articulated hands for devastator, but I don't want to pay for a whole set when I just want those.
>>5316002
It really depends on the type of posing you're going for I guess. I do like that the kit gives a sword extender though. I may pick it up at some point, but this month my money is tight with all the shit I've bought. I've got enough set aside to grab Bruticus if Onslaught finally gets released in actual quantities, and thats about it.
>>5316024
The fully formed torso looks a lot like Superion's in terms of general shape. He might be a really extensive remold, or he could be entirely new and just look a lot like Superion's body.
>>5316025
I like most of PE's kit but he Prowlstator head is unnecessary and I wish they opted for another Devestator head.
>>5314450
>The head flips out, it must be a retool
No wonder everyone thinks Transfags are retarded. I bet you think he can be retooled into Razorclaw, too.
>>5316031
No, he is not a remold. Get some glasses and a new brain, you could not be armchair-engineering worse. His bottom half is a jet doesn't make him a retool, your complete unawareness of spatial geometry, mechanical engineering is beyond words. It really is staggering that you people think you can then criticize designs when you're so clearly lost in this particular case.
>>5316031
But he doesn't look like superions body. They're both torsos and have torso like proportions. That's all they have in common.
>>5316040
I think things like Rook into Swindle, and Magnus to prime have ruinef the fanbase into thinking retools are magical things and literally anything can and will be one.
>>5315840
Let me tell you something.
Bustin makes me feel good!
>>5316045
Seriously, it's like some of the fanbase drank the same super-retardation kool-aid that's been going around.
>>5316045
It all started with FoC Sideways coming from the base Jazz molds.
People like Walky spent years trying to correct people from thinking G1 Bumblebee and Cliffjumper were remolds, as opposed to sharing engineering, and then Hasbro goes and practically reshells figures for remolds so now people think the slightest similarity means a remold.
>>5316053
Who gives a fuck what Walky says in the first place?
Besides, it was before that anyway. People thought Energon Starscream was a retool of that guy from the Dreadwing 2 Pack in G2.
>>5314813
>"any kind of clusterfuck detailing that was drawn in Nick Roche's style"
FTFY
>>5314794
wew lad
>>5314870
>robot ghosts
>something metaphysics
>Japan holds what is literally the most important macguffin in the entire universe
>Predaking's brain
>the gay bits between the two kids
Zone was a strange "series"
>>5315656
>>5316069
I can't wait for the inevitable MP Dai Atlas
it needs to happen
So MP Tracks is a hot mess. He's flimsy and has crap articulation and loose parts. His arms have less articulation than his fucking missile ornaments.
I should've listened when people told me he was a Kobayashi release.
>>5316002
I am trying to imagine the mentality of that combiner and failing miserably.
![masterpiece+tracks+42[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/nkQxqzR.jpg "masterpiece+tracks+42[1].jpg")
An easily missed step in Masterpiece Tracks and his transformation: His grill rotates inward to fill out his calves more.
>>5316194
What's the difference between a mess and a hot mess?
>>5316291
temperature
>>5316046
Whatever are you blathering on about Ghostbusters for?
>>5316308
Arms can't bend 90 degrees and he still has a disconnected back. Why do fanboys feel so urged to draw lines in the sand? Is it an autism thing?
>>5316311
>Why do fanboys feel so urged to draw lines in the sand?
Because it makes me feel better than others, duh.
>>5316270
Looked like an old vacuum cleaner from the thumbnail.
>>5316342
>>5316355
I want a Transformer that turns into a vacuum cleaner
>>5316369
It would suck.
>>5315497
>Wanting a crumb-sized MP Soundwave or MP Megatron
Whatever, broski.
>>5316311
>Is it an autism thing?
Why would it be?
>>5316369
You mean Mega Maid?
>>5316377
Even if not a vacuum cleaner, they still suck
>>5316048
>>5316053
It also doesn't help that people are screaming at Hasbro about CW having too many remolds so that issue keeps getting dragged to the forefront whenever we have a new wave of releases. Plus the people who probably believe in remold magic probably are under-educated kids and tweens who don't know better along with your occasional retards at you-know-where whose only means of gainful employments are either comic book store employee, toy repainter or webcomics buffoon.
>>5316396
Fuck yes. We need a MP Megamaid.
Is TFP Abominus at all worth it? I kind of like it's looks and would like to have a legends combined.
>>5316439
The Legends class Terrorcons manage to have better and more interesting transformations than any Deluxe and Voyager sized beast in the line.
>>5316443
No.
>>5316439
It's good in theory but it's kind of junk.
>poorly weighted
>really generally loose
>non-specific-hand syndrome
>feet don't sit flat level
>legs don't like to stay attached
>breaks easily around the shoulder connectors if you're not careful
>that weapon.... thing... its... just awful
I'd really like to like it. It looks quite cool, but then in hand it's a bit of a different story. The individual terrorcons are great (except rippersnapper) and you should definitely pick up the deluxe Windrazor and Twinstrike if you can find them. I have them as my CHUG terrorcon stand ins
Police brutality squad
>>5316550
Rook and Blades arent there.
>>5316550
Deluxe Groove looks so damn good.
