Why does every girl I have ever played dnd with always make a half elf ranger as her first character? There are also some recurring features: red hair; a raven pet; some kind of poetic name; a huge scar on the face that however doesn't tarnish her femininity; being the product of a beautiful and chaste elf being raped by an otherwise noble man in a moment of madness; the constant need of having a romance story with another player's character while remaining absolutely pure and many more that I can't recall right now. I personally know at least five girls that has made exactly the same character and I've been told by some friends of mine that they know many girls that did the same.
Why is this so common? I can't figure where does this stereotype origin from. All of these girls have made their characters before the release of the hobbit trilogy, which I understand could inspire unoriginal people.
Have you have ever met this kind of feminine half elf ranger? Have you ever recognized another stereotype that has no apparent origin yet is so widely common?
>>48272377
It's the same reason why there are so many dudes who can't resist the urge to be huge faggots and play the mysterious loner who's just in this for his personal gain, and wears a large cloak.
easy way of making a character that's "different" without having to put any effort in in terms of creativity or role-playing.
>>48272387
this nigga knows what's up
>>48272377
Where do you live? Where I'm from, girls make druids with wolf pets as their first character.
Every. Time.
>>48272403
I know a girl who's (almost) always making druids or shapechangers. Right now she's playing distressed gender-bender. And the two times she didn't play something shapechanging or with nature-inspired powers or with a pet? Vampire.
>>48272377
My first character was a half elf ranger.
I'm a guy.
>>48272432
Me too.
Though I still think OPs anecdotal evidence proves nothing.
>>48272403
Funnily enough, my gf usually goes for either ranger or druid. She also likes wizards and sorcerers, though, and rolled a warrior once.
>>48272377
I'm literally the only player I've played with who made a half elf ranger and I'm a dude who's been playing for around 10 years.
Maybe this was more common before? I don't know.
I have two female first-timers in my 5e group at the moment, one is a male wood elf Rogue (swashbuckler) the other is a tiefling druid (moon circle).
>>48272612
Guess I should specify it's a female tiefling
>>48272377
I recently joined my first Pathfinder group with an aasimar paladin. This is also the first game for the wife of another one of the players, she rolled a human witch. Our third girl is a bard.
Our bearded man's man is the one playing the druid.
>>48272377
Girl's first characters from my group:
Aasimar Sorcerer,
Aasimar Druid,
Dwarf Ranger (really a detective),
Human Cleric (really a doctor)
>>48272403
I'm from Rome. Maybe living in a big city makes you strive for nature? The girls were actually very different from each other; that surprise me the most.
>>48272432
>>48272478
I never said that only girls play half elf rangers; but that the girls I've known made half elf rangers as their first character. Their other characters were actually quite different, ranging from a lolsorandom gnome warrior to a wise child wizard to a cruel half orc warlady.
I have only anecdotal evidence to offer; i don't know scientific papers aggregator à la Pubmed regarding roleplaying games. My bad. If you have stronger evidence regarding statistical distribution of classes among genders I'd like to read it. I'm not sarcastic, I'm actually asking.
>>48272391
That could be it, but the girls that have played with me while I was being the DM have actually put a lot of effort in writing a background, drawing their characters, even writing poems in-game to their loved ones. One of them wrote even a song for their character. It was very bad tho.
Every role player sucks at it initially OP, just like every newbie sucks a little at everything they try at first.
You did too, remember?
We ALL did once upon a time.
>>48272377
Mine was
>wood elf fighter
>half-elf fighter
>human barbarian
>human barbarian
All of them female and named after women in TV shows (Mostly Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
It was probably because she hated casters and didn't like picking spells when she leveled.
>>48272675
>I'm from Rome.
Jelly as fuck. Is roleplaying a big thing in Italy though? Never expected it to really be such a big thing outside of the US, the UK and maybe France.
>>48272690
That's true. But they didn't actually suck, just one of them; I guess I was worse as a first timer. The point is that they all made the same character and I can't honestly figure why.
>>48272720
It's big enough, I think. I personally know many group of young players (20-25 years old) and judging by some italian sites pen and paper rpg are popular enough. There are even some interesting italian-made rpgs. Where are you from? Why the surprise?
>>48272720
I'd guess it's relatively big in the first world in general. There's always fan translations for those systems that don't get official ones, even.
Of the women I've gamed with, only one's first character was a half-elf ranger. Meanwhile, others' first characters included a boisterous dwarf paladin, a stereotypical halfling rogue, a matronly fighter, a sullen Dragonborn warlock, a playful wizard, a heroic archer, a Lady Gaga-inspired bard, and an attention whore cleric.
Not in the same game, of course.
>>48272377
My wife's first character was basically pic related.
>>48272377
I have it too anon, and I don't really care.
People have their fetishes and the way they go around them.
Aslong as they can indulge in their shit, so can I.
Most people start with a favorite character in mind. Most, but not all, commercial fantasy books/movies move female characters to the back line/support roles because women in bloody hand to hand isn't something people think they can sell right now.
That means that most girls new to the hobby are going to want to play either an archery/scout ranger, a healer-type, or a DPR caster. Most groups already have sufficient healing and most RPG magic looks pretty daunting at first so "woodland animal friends and arrows" carries the day.
Once they get the hang of things, they'll move on. Protips: always ask new players what their favorite character is in the genre you're playing and offer them that first. Always have a beginner friendly melee, ranged, and support pregen ready to go immediately. 5e's Champion Fighter (1 sword and board, 1 arrow build,) Warlock, and Life Cleric will save you hours of character creation time.
>>48273755
That's a sensible answer and a good advice; I guess that the details come after the ranger choice as direct consequences. Thank you.
>>48272432
Why would you play Half Elves when they are such an underpowered class?
>>48272532
How fat is she?
>>48272377
>Have you have ever met this kind of feminine half elf ranger?
Nope. The female D&D players I know, whose first games I saw, made:
>elf paladin
>elf paladin
>human paladin
>half-elf sorcerer
>elf druid
>human assassin
>orc ranger
I've seen more guys make half-elf rangers, as they better fit the typical newcomer power fantasy of the dangerous, cloaked loner with a mysterious past and no home.
>>48272377
>half elf
People who play as half anything should be shot.
Actually, scratch that, people who include even the possibility of "half-X" faggotry in the game, should be shot.
God damn zoophile degenerates.
>>48272377
I have never once come across this.
>>48272387
I've seen dudes who tried to pull this off, but couldn't keep it up and ended up being just as goofy as the rest of us.
Ain't ever played no games with no chicks.
Helping three girls make their first characters:
>"And you can be all sorts of fantasy races. You can be a gnome, or a dwarf, or an elf..."
>"Elf? Fuck those guys!"
>"Yeah, they think they're so much better than everyone. I'd rather be an orc."
>"Can I be an old lady dwarf who doesn't trust elves?"
Apparently they'd all read The Hobbit and LotR when they were kids, and all independently concluded that elves are wankers. I love these broads.
>>48274099
They sound like lesbian cunts.
>>48272387
I agree but that is not nearly as strangely specific as op. Big cloaks obviously fit a mysterious loner character so that's not much of a coincidence. Also roleplay is a form of escapism. People play characters that represent what they wish they could be. Sexy and badass adventurers with awesome powers. With so many chicks with rape back stories does that mean most girls secretly want to be raped?
Hm, first girl in groups character was a "not" slutty elf warlock who barely wore anything and was pretty close to CE, but it was largely forgiven due to her being hot.
Second built something equiv to a druid, also an elf, but not a red haired ranger.
Neither char came from a rape background afaik.
>>48274125
You sound lonely.
>>48274099
>"Elf? Fuck those guys!"
>"Yeah, they think they're so much better than everyone. I'd rather be an orc."
A girl after my own heart, 10/10 hope you put a ring on it Anon.
>>48273875
She's right under 300. I like them big so that doesn't bother me. I do sometimes find it hard not to think about her ex, who was black.
>>48274154
I'd rather not get into this, but it's an extremely common fantasy.
>>48274125
No, that'd be the elves.
>>48274125
You're a bitter virgin huh? I'm sorry girls are so mean to you.
OP here; after playing a half elf none of them ever played one again, except one that liked the idea of a half-halfling/half-elf sorceress. I guess that playing a half elf in our group is like a phase? What's strange is that every single one of my girl players was an avid reader, with very different tastes, yet every single one of them played a half elf ranger. I assumed it was more common that apparently is. I'm genuinely surprised.
>>48274212
Why do you not want to discuss it? I knew it was apretty common fantasy but didn't think it was that common. I'm not saying it means these girls should get raped anything obviously, that's why roleplay exists. My exes and my current partner have dabbled in the area. My exes were female and my current partner is a Chinese trap.
>>48272377
My wife's first character was a Human Cleric.
First girl and second girl I played with were an Elf Fighter and Tiefling Sorcerer.
The girl in my FLGS group is a Dwarf Fighter...
The only Half-Elf I've ever seen was a grimderp Bard who wouldn't shut up about naming his bow.
>>48274246
It is a sign, OP. Someday, you will meet a woman like this recurring half-elf. You will fall in love, but it will not last. Your heart will be broken, and grown anew.
>>48274246
When I first played when my dad was teaching me as a kid I went through a phase where I always picked a drow thief. Fortunately I was never edgy though. I've always liked thieves and I like drow because of how their skin colour looks with white hair. Just seems cool. I love white hair and exotic skin colours.
>>48274154
Now that you mention it: the first girl that played this half elf ranger stereotype wrote that the huge scar was made by a group of orc that tried to rape her but that she slain; I assumed that it was some kind of power fantasy, but more for the "rapist get killed by naive girl" vibe, not the "attempted rape" one. Knowing the player this is actually unnerving.
>>48274263
People can just get kinda weird in discussions like that.
>>48273809
You are welcome.
>>48274271
My first girlfriend was a not really beautiful readhead that hated her parents. I was 15, we never had sex and it lasted less than two months and my heart was broken but that made me grew. She also had a pet parrot.
But I started to play rpg about five years later.
That's funny. Do you have any more magic insight about my life, diviner-anon?
>>48272377
My experience with girls i've played D&D 5e with/run for:
High Elf Assassin Rogue
Half Elf Eldritch Knight
Wood Elf Monk
Wood Elf Thief
Wood Elf Ranger
... Human Necromancer
The girl that played Necromancer was a tank aswell, 10/10 have played with in multiple games.
>>48274099
Sound smade-up.
>>48274162
>>48274231
>those aggressive responses
Yup, made-up.
>>48274430
Of course it was.
It's kind of annoying that someone would make up something so inane too.
In my group there is a girl who plays with a male character, she likes to play warriors and for her "it makes more sense if its a man".
>>48272377
Every woman I have DMed for picked an elf or half-elf for her first character, but none have been rangers.
All have been mysterious and quiet characters with personal trauma in their backgrounds. The only one who wasn't some other player's girlfriend IRL ended up doing the most awkward in-game marriage proposal you could possible imagine in the last session of that campaign.
>>48275272
>>48275272
>the most awkward in-game marriage proposal you could possible imagine in the last session of that campaign.
details?
>>48272377
I am one of the only dudes at my table who doesn't play batman. Three of our five characters are stealthy stabby chaotic good ranger/thieves who work outside of the law. The other guy is a heavy martial. The same heavy martial. Every time. I'm usually the only one ranged, tanking or healing, because in a party of five we have four melee damage dealers. I get that we all want to play the badass but we've been playing for four years can you please change it up a little.
>>48275345
>hambeast female half-elf monk/warlock
>ended up in a bad deal with her patron
>female changeling rogue (played by normal looking guy) finds a way to save her from the situation
>monk annoys the shit out of me to give her a chance to buy a ring in-game, doesn't care if it's magical
>confused, let her buy a nice ring
>end of last session
>she gets out of her seat
>gets down on one knee in front of rogue player
>presents cheap-ass plastic ring in a box
>guy gets deer in the headlights look
>other players look away and/or gets up from the table immediately
>everyone else in card shop stops what they're doing and stares
>I get up and tell them they can work out the ending for themselves
>both players left looking ashamed in a compromising position
>>48274430
What in the last two posts sounds "smade up?" The guy made rude assumptions about random women based on nothing so we assumed he was a lonely virgin because that would explain his irrational woman hatred. You're a special kind of stupid huh?
>>48272377
>>48272432
My first was a human Paladin
>>48275460
That's terrifying. We had one of those awkward moments when one of the half elf feminine ranger enacted the love poem she wrote on an actual real life parchment while we were playing in a pub. That was our first campaign, and that was terrible. I should still have it somewhere in my room.
>>48275719
It completely ruined the end of the campaign.
The guy she did the proposal to spoke in her defense to get her into the next one. She's playing a male fighter this time.
>>48272432
Nigga, you gay.
>>48275719
Here it is. It's written in archaic italian. After all those years I still don't know if it's cool that a player took time to buy some parchment and write a poem or if she was just trying too hard. I don't know.
>>48275856
Incidentally, for a very different reason, she involuntarily tried to destroy our campaign too. The campaign was saved, but our friendship was not.
>>48272432
ur a faggot lmao (laugh my ass off)
>>48272403
>>48272377
I'm italian too, and I've ALWAYS had gurls playing druids with bird pets.
Good thing nobody took the time to explain multiclassing to them I guess.
>>48272720
I'd say it's not big enough, we have a decent player pool but it's sometimes difficult to find a group if you don't have old friends around.
Also, lots and lots of casuals and 3.X-only-fags, but it's common everywhere I guess.
There's a pretty big PbP community though, I never did bother counting but probably a few thousands. Mostly edgelords and trolls, but still thousands.
>>48276509
Huh.
>>48276772
Yes, too many 3.x players; but also the "hardcore" players tend to play games which I don't like much, like Sine Requie, which is really popular, at least here in Rome.
OP describes strange and incredibly abarrant behaviour, especially about rape madness and "staying pure" romance.
Either shit that never happened OR all of OP's gal pals are insufferable Soap Opera finatics.
>>48272377
The chick in our game only makes catgirls.
The other chick makes normal shit that sounds cool.
The third, being a lawyer, tends to gravitate towards "explosions."
Then again we don't really ever play D&D so I guess that doesn't count.
>>48276917
>Sine Requie
I just googled it, it looks like Call of Cthulhu mixed with Italian exploitation B movies.
>>48276936
I've seen what he's talking about before. If you haven't good for you then.
>>48276936
I posted a proof of a tiny bit of the story a few posts above. I don't have much; I could search my notes for at least 2 character sheets of the players I mastered, but even so I don't know if I could find them.
I don't find the rape bit that aberrant tho. I believe that being a product of rape is a quite common background story for a half-whatever. Boring and clichéd, maybe, but not aberrant.
>>48277005
>being a product of rape
Don't know why people find that so fascinating. You're you, not your rape dad.
>>48276999
Sine Requie has some good mechanics (using tarots instead of dice is very immersive) but it's very repetitive and the setting could sound interesting but it's quite stupid and stereotyped.
Here is very popular. With a good master is really fun for a one-shot or two; after that the weaknesses of the game start to be evident.
>>48277034
Like someone said above, it's to give your character an easy "mysterious and painful" past.
>>48277084
>the setting could sound interesting but it's quite stupid and stereotyped.
Yeah, just like the B movies your country is infamous for. I do like trying out games that use stuff other than dice, though.
>>48277126
Italian B Movies often were really good movies; Lucio Fulci and Mario Bava are two famous directors from that period. B Movies were goofy and derivative; Sine Requie is plain stupid. Paladins with chainsaws in a dystopian church state and russian cyborgs with '50s tech is worse than most B movies.
>>48272377
Holy shit, OP, the girl in my group did LITERALLY everything you said, word for word.
What the fuck
>>48276917
>>48276999
I don't like SR much either, the mechanics are fairly enjoyable but the handbooks are just meh, not to mention badly, badly written. I mean, it's ok to use suspension points once in a while, but they sure don't add spookiness to the mixture - not since the 80s at least.
Never understood what the excitement for SR is all about, probably just the "replace dices with cards" thing.
I'm going to play a small campaign in a short while though, my friends voted it over GURPS 5 to 2. For some reason I wasn't surprised.
>>48277258
I concur. The writing is terrible; it seems to be written by a sixteen years old fan of Dylan Dog, trying to emulate its style without actually being a good writer. In the core manual alone there are at least three uses of "Nothing personal, Boy/Kid/whatever". It feels quite amateurish until you find out that the two creators of the game are in their 40s and have been writing it since the nineties.
Despite that, I have some friends with good taste that say that a SR campaign has been the best rpg experience of their lives. A good master and good players could make the difference; but as I can see from your post youplay with at least six players that you do not really think are good at RPG, so I understand how you feel about this. Good luck.
>>48274154
>With so many chicks with rape back stories does that mean most girls secretly want to be raped?
Have you never read romance books written for women? There's some variance, but even the "soft" ones have aspects of non-consensual sex. Women LOVE to fantasize about rape. You may find this shocking if you take their outward messaging about "empowerment" and "independence" seriously.
Just read smut written for females sometime. The ones that are male x male are especially funny. All rape, all the time.
My first character was an Orc Warrior
>>48277422
I should add, obviously these are fantasies. No one wants to actually be raped, in the same sense that most men don't want to ACTUALLY be in a war zone butchering thousands of people and getting PTSD.
But as a fantasy, rape and non-consent and other fantasies of control and loss of control are like the #1 go-to in smut.
(Men like them, too, of course.)
>>48277167
I think you missed the "expploitation" part of the post.
>>48277258
>my friends voted it over GURPS 5 to 2.
Been there. I love GURPS, but I've only played it a dozen times.
>>48277472
Yes, I did. Yes, you are right. Yes, Sine Requie feels like that, but worse.
>>48274099
Or they just played Skyrim.
>>48272432
Same.
>Mfw it was with a group of normies after I introduced them to 5e and one wanted to try DMing
>Mfw in the first combat a nat 1 on our Warlock's EB had the DM rule the stray shot hit my character's belt and drop her pants
>>48272377
The only girl I game with is my sister. Her first character was "Siberian Tiger" an ex-soviet super soldier turned super hero.
Her first fantasy character was an elf ranger though.
>>48274263
From what I understand the fantasy is common but not in the way we think of rape, as it's not rape per se. I think it springs more from something like a rapture fantasy, but with the guy being perfectly how they want them to be. More like romeo and juliet.
I don't think it has to do with the backstories though, it's just a way to make the characters more interesting, just like no one wants to have their hometown burned down or some other cliche tragic backstory.
The only girl I played with was a half-elf redhead, but she was a pyromaniac bard.
>>48277472
>a dozen times
>>48277393
They're not that bad actually, we always had a lot of fun playing D&D and such, but the majority of them is reluctant to try something a little lesstamarroover-the-top. They're probably just lazy, not much of an issue considering good RP partially makes up for bad mechanics.
>>48272720
I am from and live in Brazil. Role-playing here is a well known hobby and a lot of people partake in it.
I have been with the same group for 7 years and we recently added 2 more. We play on saturdays every 2 weeks.
>>48278395
I don't know. At its best SR is a good atmospheric horror, with good character building and sincerely spooky moments; at its worst it's literallyDon Matteo con gli ZombiCall of Duty: Nazi Zombies. On my experiences I can say that it is a game best played with a small group; too many players could change the focus from dystopian horror to bad exploitation b-movie.
If they are good at being silent at the table and wait for their turn to suffer, you're good and I envy you.
>>48274430
Huh. Maybe I should believe more of other people's stories, if something that actually happened to me sounds made-up. I mean, I did edit for brevity; character creation got derailed for like 20 minutes as they all talked about how much they hated the elves in LotR. And another digression about orcish hair colors; I ruled that pink wasn't a natural hair color for orcs, but that proficiency with an herbalism kit would allow her to make hair dye from underdark mushrooms.
>>48272377
I don't know OP but let's brrak it down to see if we can't figure it out. Disclaimer: this is all conjecture< I could well be talking out my ass
>half-elf
I think this comes down to everyone having the same very basic understanding of what makes a good and interesting character early and I'm gonna come back to that a bit but basically half-elves are new player bait. They're different and uncommon but still largely familiar, they come with built in drama in the backstory but not so much as to be full on edgetarded. They're an acceptable level of snowflake built into a core race and that's the long and short of it.
>ranger
They're like rogues but less prone to the extremes of the scale which ranges from "atomic edge" to "lolsorandumb", also nature stuff allows backstory lonlieness which gells with half-elf. Really Rangers occupy a very specific space in DnD style fantasy in that they absolutely fit in the genre but they don't appear common enough to be obvious. They also have an excellent pedigree. Case in point Aragorn and Legolas are both rangers.
>the next 3
Again, it's basically an acceptable level of snowflake. The only one that merits any further thought is the Raven pet and that basically boils down to being the most resereved choice available
>the scar
Obviously badass and been through some shit but still beautiful, the appeal is obvious there
>the rape thing
That is weirdly specific and I'm kinda stumped but I'd guess that it has something to do with some sort of weird tragic romance crap that I don't really get.
>Romance
Similar to the above but with the added bonus that everybody loves a good love story so that's probably what they were going for. Also if you are from Rome then that might play into the wholeremaining pure thing, what with them being good catholic girls and all.
>>48278880
again though, I'm probably full of shit
>>48272720
Finnfag reporting in.
A pretty diverse roleplaying culture here, too.
>>48272377
Girl in our campaign is playing for her first time. Picked a tiefling, which is kinda out there, but she plays it well. Basically doesn't trust people because of racial prejudice, and is a charlatan trying to subtley fuck other people over. Is also a big time drunk and trollop.
>>48278880
I think you are on point on almost everything except the catholicism; all of the girls are atheist or very loosely catholic. I concede that the whole purity concept is a lot stronger here in Rome from a cultural point of view, so the appeal may still be there. (It may sound strange, but roman boys and girls are not exactly the most religious in the world; we are still a big city after all, with all the secularization that it implies).
The strange thing in the whole rape part is not the rape itself (which I believe is common enough as a tragic background) but the fact that is always a noble man. Why there should be many noble hero that in a moment of weakness abuse a beautiful and chaste elven woman? This is some kind of Arthurian-like situation that I would think as exceptional, not as the norm. Maybe there is some popular story or song that I don't know that feature this kind of situation.
>>48278920
Nah, you're not.
First girl I played with only played drows, dark elves, dark eldar and the like, basically if in the setting there was a evil pointy eared race, she would have surely played one, a female one, usually a dual wielding one. Always gave those PCs cringey gothy names to boot.
Second girl likes martial PC, sometimes clerics, mainly humans with the occasional dwarf. First PC was a human female antipaladin in an evil campaign. Awesome player.
>>48279142
>The strange thing in the whole rape part is not the rape itself (which I believe is common enough as a tragic background) but the fact that is always a noble man.
It's more snowflake flavor, like they come from an important lineage despite being product of rape. This is no different from the "this commoner was actually of noble blood all along!" themes.
>Why there should be many noble hero that in a moment of weakness abuse a beautiful and chaste elven woman?
A lot of media make men be like animals that will rape anyone on sight under certain circumstances, especially if they have a position of authority. It's also even more common in media dealing with medieval fantasy/history. In such movies when there is a woman on the floor and unknown men nearby you automatically know there will be a rape attempt scene. They even do it in the middle of battle, the guy stops everything when he finds a vulnerable woman and proceeds to try and rape her, only to get predictably killed by another soldier.
>>48279142
honestly the catholic girls thing was a joke more than anything.
A recently added player.
>elves? cool, I'll be an elf!
>wait, those elves are kind of... eh
>why are they small?
>all right, so where are the proper elves?
>you know, that kind that kills demons and guards the mortal realm, like in Tolkien or that Warhammer game you play
>the huge hunks with magic swords?
>oh. Aasimar, then!
>>48280803
The elf he wanted to play would be overpowered desu. But he seems to have good taste.
Played in a savage worlds game where both happened. Two girls playing, one played an elven ranger type, commune with nature, all mysterious, fucking hated my character because I played a full out Orc warrior. Other girl played a classic Knight, complete with chivalric code and lance. First girl left after 2 sessions, other girl saw it through till the end of the campaign. Notable feats included riding up a sea serpents neck to hack its head off.
>>48272377
All of you guys are talking about faggy first characters. My first character was a square jawed human muscle cleric named Friedrich.
He grappled a hyena to death then killed it's kobold masters with his bare hands and scavenged their weapons because we had no equipment.
I still look fondly on him. He challenged a hill giant to a duel and nearly died. His own party had to knock him unconscious and flee with his body to stop him from getting himself killed over honor.
>>48281349
>Gnoll masters*
Fuck.
I've played with 5 different women and none of them have made that character that I know of.
Girl 1:
>Bear druid that turns into a bear, has a bear, and summons more bears
>Hippie cleric of a nature god who kept healing wounded enemies that we were trying to capture
>Viking stereotype who was the chosen of Thor, murdered everything, and had a baby dragon
Girl 2:
>Gnome wizard that rode around on a demonic bat cursing people and saying inappropriate things
Girl 3:
>Witch with some sort of fey panther familiar. Didn't understand how her spells worked, so mostly just punched people with her hair
Girl 4:
>LG human fighter. Just wanted to go back to her home plane and get away from her bizarre and evil party members.
Girl 5:
>A talking house cat that committed arson and let other people take the blame.
>>48277449
It's less 'being raped' and more 'being desired so badly that the (extremely handsome and skilled-lover) guy in question is entirely overcome and simply has to have the lady, even if it has to be burglary
>>48272377
Red hair half orc ranger, bitch!
WAAAGH!
>>48272720
>Try to play D&D in Rome.
>Gypsy outside my door steals shoes.
>Nigerian dude hugs me and steals wallet.
>Bangladeshi dude throws weird squeaking toy at me.
>Go to metro, oh wait, engineers on strike again.
>Decide to walk across town.
>Surrounded by Amerifats. Germanfats, and Japanese tourists.
>Consider an hero, remember that grill I like might let me cacio her pepe tonight, decide against it.
>Dodge scooters and taxis, make it to friends house.
>Everyone rolling stereotypical halfling thieves or Drizzt-type Drow rangers.
>Jump headlong into Tevere
>River is on strike
>MFW
>>48272432
Same, I've always had a thing for rangers and back in 3.5 being a half elf helped you quite a bit in that role.
>>48274430
Have you literally ever hung out with a female in a friendly and casual setting?
>>48272377
My group has a girl made a monk and wrote a whole set of rules that her monk lived her life by. Most of it started and ended with punching something but she was very non stereotypical.
Completely unrelated to OP but there's no questions or 4E thread up and I'm wondering if any passing fa/tg/uy can clarify something for me
I'm fucking around with weird multiclass builds and I've decided to go with a Cleric classed into Rogue for the hilarity of sneak attacking people with big fuck off empowered maces and praising the sun, etc
To this end, the multi-class feat Ruthless Efficiency, granting Ruthless Ruffian class features that basically lets me Sneak Attack with maces seems optional
HOWEVER
This multiclass feat in itself does not grant sneak attack at all, as the PHB Rogue feat does. Given that unless you're a bard you can't take multiple multiclass feats, this seems to make Ruthless Efficiency completely redundant because if you take it as your multiclass feat into Rogue, you can't gain the ability to actually sneak attack.
Am I missing something here?
>>48282787
Also if it helps the girl in the group who's playing for the first time is an Elf Avenger, but the other girl is more seasoned and some kind of Fighter build
>>48272675
Maybe it is a regional thing? I'm a gril and my first character was a boring old human bard. I guess she did have a tragic backstory, though, I'm not that original.
>>48281865
you know that makes a lot of sense. my faith in humanity goes up and down simultaneously
>>48278880
You're missing something on half elves.
For the 3.X races, the half elves are the highest Cha. Human male has knuckledragger arms, and the female elf has the usual weird facial proportions that everyone conveniently forgets.
I know that's why I picked a half-elf fighter so long ago
>>48272387
>It's the same reason why there are so many dudes who can't resist the urge to be huge faggots and play the mysterious loner who's just in this for his personal gain, and wears a large cloak.
Oh god. I can relate to this statement. It's happened like four times now.
>>48272387
Or obnoxious "i ain't afraid of nuthin and ima break you in half with this toothpick" types
in general don't play with people with power fantasies
>>48285325
Solved simply by the GM putting not!Strider in the corner of every single bar, tavern, or brothel the party enters. The man is unusually chipper and always gives the party a massive grin and a wave whenever they look at him, but is adverse to any conversation whatsoever, beyond attempting to make the party pay for his drinks.
>>48285396
A bar with only one corner? It's obviously some kind of daemonic dimension or illusion, you better roll a saving throw.
>>48285484
We've done that before.
But seriously, most of the places the parties have gone into are little more than a hole in the wall with the bar or a pile of crates taking up the back, and maybe a crude staircase or ladder on one side for the loft above, if it was a tavern.
>>48285484
>he doesn't construct buildings in a cylindrical fashion
Woman reporting in.
>half elf ranger
0.5 points, Paladin instead of Ranger.
>red hair
0 points, white hair. Which is probably even worse.
>some kind of poetic name
1 point.
>a huge scar on the face that however doesn't tarnish her femininity
0 points.
>being the product of a beautiful and chaste elf being raped by an otherwise noble man in a moment of madness
0 points, parents happily married.
>the constant need of having a romance story with another player's character
1 point.
>while remaining absolutely pure
1 point.
3.5/7 points. Halfway to being spot on.
>>48285563
>cylinders
>having any corners
Dude, you're drunk. Go to bed. Drink plenty of water first, though,
>>48272377
Never had that problem myself. They usually picked what group needed most or what was currently most trending thing in their subculture.
But, there was one unifying trait among these girls, whenether I GM'ed or was another player. They all wanted to have romance plots included, be it with NPC's or other PC's.
While these things are certainly not weird by themselves, it was still a common thing among them all.
>>48285615
but that was the point
>>48285829
Your point was you didn't want not!Strider to have any place to sit? That's just fucking cruel. Why would you even do that to the poor guy? It's his only function as an NPC and you're just robbing it from him. You bastard.
>>48285913
I make the grand vizier with the goatee and parrot animal companion a genuinely helpful dude too. What are you gonna do about it? Call the GM police?
>>48285922
Sic a rules lawyer on your ass. And that's just for starters.
>>48282093
Is she a ranger because she goes faster than other orcs?
>>48273963
Aw comon man don't be hating on my half-orc female barbarian.
She's basically the product of fem-Conan and Ghazgkhull
>>48274212
Then why fucking reply? To tell us you don't want to reply anymore? Brilliant.
>>48272377
Strange. The one girl in my session started out as a black dragonborn wizard. Then the second character was a tiefling warlock, and upon that one's death, she is now a human ranger.
I must be lucky I suppose.
>>48272377
We didn't even start off with dnd and she somehow still made a ranger with a pet.
I think chicks just really dig pets. I guess there's also a bit of cultural indoctrination that bows is a "woman's weapon". Lots of fictional female fantasy characters that are either bow users, healers or both. Picking the bow might just feel as natural to some girls as picking the sword feels for guys. Who got pets and bows? The ranger.
As for rape, it's easily the most popular fetish among both genders (its a powerplay thing). A large amount of girls are subs. Subs gets off to manhandling.
Why I want to (you) all the stupid posts without replies so much?
>>48274099
Are they hot? like 7+? If not then fuck off they aren't the type of women we are talkin about in this thread
>>48272432
My first character was a Bison Minotaur Barbarian if only because I wanted to do something fun and ridiculous the first time around.
>>48272403
Mostly this, but when WoW was big, several new girls joined up with my group and all played casters: clerics, wizards, sorcerers.
One girl I know joined my group in the mid 2000s, she played a pally in bikini plate. In the 90s we mostly played vampire and shadowrun, but when we played D&d, the new girls gravitated towards rangers and rogues. Presumably for the tight leather.
Face it: ranger is a good starting class. You get lots of options, an animal companion, no glaring weaknesses, and at first blush your character isnt stereotypically feminine. Those options bear mentioning: melee, ranged, spells, and skills. Rangers tend to focus on evading vlows rather than tanking them. Excellent first class for any newbie.
>>48285913
>>48285829
>>48285615
... But anons a cylindrical building WOULD have one corner at ground level
>>48272377
The two girls I've played with had a halfling rogue and a human sorceress, so I don't know what you're on about.
>>48272377
I blame LOTR
Well my first character was a human rogue. In fact I've never played anything nature oriented, I fucking hate nature. It's full of ticks,spiders,snakes, mosquitos and all manner of other horrid shit.
I do often play an elf though for the same reason many other girls do. We just want to play something pretty. Much like how guys always want to play something 'rugged and cool' [or they go full retard and play beefcake luchadors in a fantasy setting].
>>48290731
>not!Strider lays on the ground, his head propped up on his arm, giving you that same familiar grin that now seems to encompass something more
>>48277889
Ironically though being raped has become an even more cliche back story than having your hometown burned down.
>>48295249
why not both?
