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Other Fantasy Flight Games Star Wars Tabletop (Imperial Assault and the Star Wars LCG)
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Fantasy Flight Games Dice App (Works with X-Wing, Armada, the Star Wars RPG system and Imperial Assault)
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Just What IS Canon Anyways?
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The Clone Wars Viewing Guide
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Writefaggotry
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Shipfag's hangar
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>>48256222
You can have a Nexu as a companion in swtor
>>48248889
Are you dense? It was removed from the archives. All of the surrounding systems are mapped but that one is conveniently missing. It was deliberately hidden. It has nothing to do with Obi Wan not having heard of it.
So it's possible that it was a secret member of the Republic (how would that work?) but that's more baseless speculation like your "clones totally might have an option to quit that was never ever mentioned so I can keep white knighting the Republic".
>>48256338
Plus, is a treaty not authorized by the Senate even legal or binding?
>>48256344
Yes, the Republic isn't a pure federal government.
>>48256338
There were over 3000 years between the prequels and first contact. How the hell did nobody in the entire Republic figure out who was making kyber and saber darts? How is it that nobody knew about the Subterrel mining op or trace the clone personnel back to Kamino? How is Dexter the only person outside of Palpatine's conscpiracy to know about Kamino? How long ago were the archives wiped? If it happened years ago, why did none of the Jedi archivists detect deletions or tampering with their files and backups? And the likelihood of it being a Senate member the whole time is so minimal as to be zero, but that doesn't leave out the possibility of bullshit secret treaties, secret correspondences, or the wipe merely being recent. Obi-Wan and Yoda certainly never had any reason to type "Kamino" into a search engine before.
And we all know the clones were treated like shit. The Republic dealt them a shitty hand. No question there. All I'm arguing is that there is insufficient consistent hard evidence to classify pre-mind chip episode clones as slaves by modern legal definitions--there was remuneration, their treatment across writers was inconsistent, and a number of clones did manage to escape active combat duties with Kaminoan and Jedi consent. There was insufficient evidence to say they did or didn't have any real independence, and conscription is not universally considered a form of "slavery." But the mind chip pretty much nails the coffin shut in my long list of incredibly shaky arguments.
>>48256878
>How is Dexter the only person outside of Palpatine's conscpiracy to know about Kamino?
DO NOT TRY TO MAKE SENSE OF THE PLOT OF EPISODE 2.
YOUR BRAIN *WILL* MELT OUT OF YOUR EARS. TRUST ME.
http://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v4!s!142:162,-1,-1,-1,31,-1,-1:-1:-1:;142:162,-1,-1,-1,21,24,-1:-1:-1:;142:162,-1,-1,-1,21,24,-1:-1:-1:&sn=Patrol%20Line
thoughts? The general idea is you space them out for maximum coverage, and have huge swaths of the board in your field of fire. The bombs are either for the initial sweep across the board, or to deter pursuers.
>>48256897
It's simple. Count Douku is rallying systems to align against the Republic. He has bugs make robots so that the Republic gets scared and they make clones to fight the robots but the clones were already made before the robots. The Galactic republic is made up of 1000 worlds and can't raise a volunteer army. Padme is the chief senator opposed to the military creation act. She has constant attempts on her life. Obi Wan finds Kamino because he was tracing the source of the darts that Jengo Fett was using to try to kill padme. No one knows about Kamino, not even Yoda who has been alive for 800 years. Obi Wan sees the clones and discovers the order to make them was placed under suspicious circumstances, ten years ago, at the exact same time that Palpatine was elected chancellor.
So Obi Wan tells the Jedi order about a gigantic clone army that no one knows about being built on a planet no one knows about that he found while he was following evidence that was leading him to the people attempting to assassinate a senator against a military buildup. He informs the Jedi council, who suspect a sith lord is behind it all.
>>48257274
>Drosalers on a K-Wing
That's the most redundant bullshit i have seen since the time someone put Munition Failsafe on Blount.
For K-wing it is TLT or bust. Maybe Ion if you are wired.
>>48257274
The dorsal turrets are pointless. Drop them and take more munitions.
>>48257331
Since someone is trying to kill padme for no reason they use her as bait to draw out the assassin trying to kill her. The assassin is a shapeshifter who can change their face by thinking it and was wearing a disguise. They chase the assassin to a sports bar where the assassin tries to sneak up on obi wan instead of trying to escape. Obi Wan cuts off the assassins arm and they die.
>>48257331
oh shit, he's finally lost it! run!
>>48257406
So Anakin takes padme back to naboo because the Jedi coucil thinks she will be safer there The Jedi think that Anakin is the best person to take her on a romantic getaway because they are star crossed lovers and love leads to the Dark Side. Once you make a personal commitment to follow the rigid lifestyle of the Jedi order when you are 2 you aren't allowed to love anymore. Padme isn't allowed to date anyone because she is a senator. There are many obstacles in this romance that is happening. Anakin murders women and children and brings a corpse back and goes on a megalomaniacal rant. After that, Anakin and Padme get married.
>>48257524
You forgot the part where Christopher Lee looks directly at you the viewer and a single tear rolls down his face as he's forced to have a sword fight with a CGI muppet that only we can see.
>>48257524
Got to admit, murdering a village of sand people, and the women and the children- gets most chicks hot for a long term relationship
>unless they're sand people
So here's my latest build based on imp vets, I'm a little worried I've done a silly and made an illegal list because this list seems horrendously OP(i'm going to try to oneshot my mates Bossk with Rexler)
>>48257580
Well I HAVE done a silly now cos I forgot to post the list:
https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Galactic%20Empire&d=v4!s!71:140,144,14:34:25:;195:27,-1,-1:33:-1:;191:-1,-1,136,143,-1,-1:-1:24:&sn=Unnamed%20Squadron
>>48257524
I just wish they had someone else write it. God damn it Lucas.
>>48257707
Cont.
I mean I liked the whole Obi-wan intrigue and mystery bit, I just wish the rest of the film could've been better ugh.
Pretty scenes of Naboo and Coruscant though
Luke, do you remember when I said I didn't remember ever owning a droid? Well I actually owned like 20 of them over the span of the clone wars.
Anyway, here is your fathers lightsaber, he used it to kill 30 children. And he was a good friend.
>>48257773
>In fact, I owned this droid in particular that we are sitting with right now
>>48257839
>"certain point of view" is meme'd to hell and back
>Obi-Wan's statements not meshing with shit that happened in the prequels is somehow a failure in writing
You can pick one and only one
>How did my father die?
Well after he choked your pregnant mother into a coma, I chased him halfway around Mustafar.
Then I chopped both his legs off, his left arm and then left him to burn to death next to a stream of lava
And he was a good friend
>>48257858
Porque no los dos?
>>48257773
Its called alzheimer.
>>48257875
It can't be both when you're acting like somebody repeatedly shown to be a chronic liar not telling the truth is somehow a breach in canon. Plus R2 is, by all appearances, a fairly standard astromech on first glance. Obi'd have sooner recognized the golden mannequin with the shitty accent that was always hanging around his best friend's waifu logically.
>>48257915
So you're saying we CAN'T meme how bad writing makes a character who fudged the truth into an outrageous liar?
how many headhunters is too many headhunters?
http://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v4!s!64:-1:-1:-1:;64:-1:-1:-1:;64:-1:-1:-1:;64:-1:-1:-1:;156:107,120,-1,136,38,38:-1:25:&sn=Unnamed%20Squadron
>>48257870
Luke did I ever tell you how your father turned evil because I left your grandmother to rot in slavery for like 15 years?
>>48258020
Luke, did you know general during the clone wars, I was. Led several planetary invasions I did.
Always use the force for knowledge and defense, never for attack.
>>48258020
Of course! Being Jedi was poorly paid cause the Jedi Order had to secretly found the BigAss Secret Clon Army!
It makes perfect sense!
>>48258020
Luke, did I ever tall you about the time your grandmother fell out of a moving aircraft? I ordered your father to forget about her and continue his mission
>>48258051
fund*
is Slaved Turrets in armada any good? seems that you can really handicap yourself by not having the ability to shoot twice (albeit from two different hull zones)
>>48257962
except he is an outrageous liar because he convinces himself it's better than breaking the truth
that and not being as proactive as he should be unless somebody higher on the totem pole tells him to sack up are his two biggest flaws
I guess i'm just salty from hearing HURF HE DIDN'T MENTION THE DROID LUCAS IS SUCH A HACK THE PREQUELS RAPED MY NEWBORN SON so much unironically it's hard to separate from meme-ing
does star wars have Bullpups?
>>48258089
I genuinely think the fact that the guy responsible for creating Star Wars doesn't even give a shit about his own canon is hilarious
>>48258109
I genuinely find this stuff hilarious, because lets face it- if we can't have a laugh we'd be crying
And it will get us the death sentence in at least 7 sub forums anywhere else
>>48258102
It's a big galaxy. There are so many gun manufacturers and blaster/slugthrower models out there that it would be a statistical inevitability.
>>48258109
maybes though its that prior to the 80-90's, no one really thought "hmm I should appease nerdy fans by making sure everything about my fictional world makes sense"
I'm pretty sure when HP Lovecraft was alive and kicking, no one wrote him letters saying "hey this story you wrote seemed to have not matched up with that other story."
I mean could be worse, could be JRR Tolkien's "stop taking Tom Bombadil seriously!"
>>48258128
I think that ultimately it was kind of good for everyone. It's good to keep grounded about this stuff. Star Wars is still awesome. Not even the creator can make Star Wars not Awesome.
>>48258148
Yeah, but the droids are major characters in the prequels. It would be like chewbaca walking in and han solo going "Who is this guy?"
>>48257978
not enough headhunters, bro.
http://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v4!s!64:143:-1:-1:;64:143:-1:-1:;64:14:-1:-1:;64:14:-1:-1:;64:53:-1:-1:;64:73:-1:-1:;64:-1:-1:-1:&sn=Stand%20and%20Deliver
>>48258089
I think that, at least only considering the OT, Obi-Wan was once a idealistic crusader, often running off to have adventures and rescue princesses and such and that eventually drew Anakin in.
But that was a long time ago, time and desert sun, and old pain have worn him down into an old man. Luke idolizes his father, he's young and learning the truth would have been.... well, no one ever really recovers from the realization that one or both parents are shitbags.
Now, SHOULD Obi-Wan have told him? Yeah, that certain point of view shit was not okay and I've been on the receiving of that and 'we're only doing what's best for you'. But I can understand why he did it and Luke gets a valuable lesson that his teachers are fallible.
Or you could go with the whole picture which is Obi-Wan was involved in so much and knew so much that he could have told this kid that he NEEDED to know, which is actually worse.
>>48258080
I'm still pretty new to Armada but I feel like the only ship you really want to put them on are Nebulon-Bs.
>>48258210
yea that what was I was thinking
especially with the new spinal guns or the new ion cannons that are slightly cheaper than the side red dice adder
>>48258180
>It would be like chewbaca walking in and han solo going "Who is this guy?"
he could just have gotten alzheimers, which would make the whole life debt thing very sad
>>48258180
Not really. Threepio emulates a civilian model droid that's had multiple memory wipes and R2 actually IS one and doesn't have the ability to communicate with the average joe.Though I can imagine Ben dragged Artoo over to a corner at some point and said "keep your trap shut or I'm going ham with the arc welder"
You've got a much more compelling argument of "why didn't Artoo (who's shown to be able to communicate with Luke at least in later installments) never bring up 'hey I was your dad's co-pilot for LITERALLY YEARS and I was there when Benny fucking rekt him"
we all agree that the MC Star Cruiser is the sexiest rebel big ship right?
dem hips
>>48258279
Damn, man
>>48258202
I don't think anyone's arguing that wasn't a dick move on Obi-Wans part. But both him and Yoda show the main theme that they've lost their way in some regard, which is why even after the whole "only act in defense" spiel and otherwise they're still going 'naw dog you have to kill vader, no other option'.
Yeah it's silly there's so much he didn't let on but doesn't that happen with any series with expanded universe style stuff or pre-original product spinoff?
>>48258322
maybe R2 took oath with Bail to never bring up Anakin being Vader to anyone. not even to Leia or Luke
>>48258343
I don't really know much about the EU, what other large rebel ships are there to compare it to? It's certainly better looking than the Home One though. The Nebulon-B is still my shipfu though.
>>48258371
Entirely possible that span of time was 'blocked' from recall or something. But as of Phantom Limb even memory wipesOr at least shoddy proto-rebel onesdon't fully work.
>>48258380
>what other large rebel ships are there to compare it to?
a few on top of my head
Assault Cruiser Mk1
Assault Cruiser Mk2
Nebulon B2 (looks so stupid)
Dreadnoughts
all the other MC ships (theres a lot)
>>48258322
>The droids are major characters
>Not really.
From a certain point of view
>>48258363You want some more feels?
>>48258470
feels time?
>>48258458
>Nebulon series
Seeing as most of the RebNebs were stolen from their original Imperial owners, could they really be counted as truly "Rebel" craft? Hell, one of the most iconic Nebs, Warspite, was Imperial-aligned and a source of much Rebel frustration.
>>48258524
Who the fuck would draw that
>>48258538
>Seeing as most of the RebNebs were stolen from their original Imperial owners, could they really be counted as truly "Rebel" craft?
old canon has it that the T65 was suppose to be imperial craft too
rebels own nothing!
>>48258464
Not really was referring to the Chewbacca analogy.
More like Han not recognizing the toaster on the Millennium Falcon even though it makes baller toast
>>48258524
Feels time!
Have some vintage feels.
>>48258584
>T65 was suppose to be imperial craft
Not the same. The T-65 prototypes were stolen along with all of the notes and such when the entire development team defected, and then put into production by the alliance.
Nebulon Bs were stolen individually.
why doesnt the Attack Shuttle have an astro slot, chopper clearly has his own little thign there
now grated, an attack shuttle with an astro slot would be kind of terrifying given it could have all green 1 and 2's (which would synergize so much with hera0 so I guess its a balance thing?
>>48258620
even corellian corvettes are used by the empire (on diplomatic missions especially!)
but I dont think in the popular stuff, we'll ever see imperial versions
corvettes and nebulons will forever be depicted as rebel only from now on methinks (or at least on tv/movie/video games)
>>48256222
Have some Space Lestrade trilogy
>>48258656
>tfw Armada will never get a Night Caller CR90 with both Rebel and Imperial cards
>tfw we will never get to perform the original Loran Spitball on the tabletop
>>48258713
Part two in which feels are had
>>48258755
Part three in which feels and a conclusion are had
>>48258148
>I'm pretty sure when HP Lovecraft was alive and kicking, no one wrote him letters saying "hey this story you wrote seemed to have not matched up with that other story."
No, but you better beleive people have been calling August Derleth a hack over his treatment of the mythos setting for over 50 years.
>>48258366
>>48258202
Honestly, I think that Obi-Wan had every intention of telling him the truth when they got to Alderaan. Which then got changed to "when we escape this deathstar". Which given that Leia would be there as well he'd probably have told them the entire story.
But, well, then Darth literally caught up to him RIGHT outside the fucking hangar, and he knew he was fucked.
Yoda? Now THERE'S and argument for senility if ever I saw it. The guy probably went half insane over the fact that he'd led the Jedi Order to destruction after 900 years.
>>48258948
Combine that with the fact that he has been living in a swamp with nothing to look forward to but his next meal and a bed for about 20 years, I think you'd start to lose it too.
Obi-wan probably meant to tell them. Yoda probably lost most of that knowledge years ago.
>>48258948
After rewatching ESB and the clusterfuck that was the Rebels finale, I'm convinced Yoda doesn't actually care about anything and is just actively fucking with everybody that goes near him.
Anyone else feel like bombs in xwing are fairly useless? They cost a lot of points and do little damage. This is because your opponent gets to know if you're bringing them at the start of the game either by looking at your cards or your type of ship.
>>48259718
No, they can be super useful. Mines are especially good on lower PS ships that move first, while bombs are better on ships that are moving afterwards. Note however that this does not mean high PS shouldn't use mines, or low PS shouldn't use bombs...
The thing about bombs and mines, is that theyr require a certain amount of skill beyond pointing yourself at what you want to die. And it doesn't help that the major bomb-using ships have pilots that completely change how you use them... Y-Wings and Tie Bombers are fairly straightforward, but then you have Deathfire who can drop them as a free action, Deathrain (Punisher) who can drop them in front of him and the roll out of the way, Emon (Firespray) who is the troll master of dumping them in front of anyone, and K-wings that can drop them a bit further behind if they want (bombadier) and don't give a shit about actions thanks to TLT.
>>48258628
Because we really do not need Ezra piloting the shuttle, with Chewie onboard, and R2-D2 plugged into it.
Is this the most Mad Max'd starfighter in all of Star Wars? Did this modded Delta-7 trend ever catch on? Because damn, I'd want one.
>>48260144
It's smooth, it's decently sleek, it isn't a rusted up piece of junk. So no, it isn't Mad Max. At all.
Smashing a Y-wing and a Headhunter together and keeping it all in one piece with hand-riveted pieces of scrap metal, that's Mad Max.
>>48260170
I meant more of Mad Max's Interceptor. It was originally a heavily modified Police Pursuit car in the first movie, and those thrusters on the front of Anakin's ship really remind me of the fuel tanks on Max's V8.
It'd be the 'Last of the Delta-7's'.
>>48259954
Alright thanks I guess I'll try them some more. But if I'm not mistaken, bombs don't really see much competitive play do they?
>>48260338
Some. Not a lot. But you do see Conner Nets on occasion. The main competitive problem with them is that they require a bit of skill and sometimes lucky prediction on how to use. However a good bomb placement will fuck up Aces quite handily. I've seen more than one Soontir end up with a prox mine or conner net in his face. The former is hilarious as it usually means they have to burn their Palp that turn to keep him from exploding spectacularly. The latter is a "well fuck..." moment, as he isn't likely to survive another round or two.
>>48258148
They actually fucking did.
>>48257773
Gonna point out that Obi-Wan actually didn't own anything besides his lightsaber. Everything else belonged to the Order and the Republic.
>>48260144
It's a lot more like a certain 900 horsepower black 1970 charger, really
>>48257839
R2 belonged to Padme who gave him to Anakin.
>>48260144
Anakin made one for Plo Koon, but that was about it.
>>48260510
Technically R2 was just a repair droid on her escape shuttle. She owned him only because he came with the ship and happened to not get shot off the fucking wing as they made no effort to avoid incoming fire.
>>48260499
So I assume Luke's never driven her, cause she scares the kriff out of him?
>>48260499
It seems more like an import tuner car than muscle to me; a wildly overpowered Z-95 would be more space vin diesel's style
>>48260499
We've actually had this discussion a while back.
Ani's custom Delta 7 is Brian's R-34 from 2 Fast 2 Furious.
>>48259718
>They cost a lot of points and do little damage.
>do little damage
>prox mine does up to 3 damage/crit damage that cant be defense dice, focused, or evaded
honestly if theres one thing that people kept bitching about, its missiles and torpedoes. the x wing team literally had to print like 3-5 cards to buff them
proton torps almost saw no play for the longest time
>>48260756
On the Royal Shuttle. Somehow, he was assigned to the Naboo Starfighter Corp or just stayed with her when she became a Senator.
>>48260888
Luke never flew the Azure Angel because she was blown to kingdom come years ago.
>>48260225
I like the cut of your jib
>promote that man
>>48261233
>missing the reference
>>48260499
>>48261134
Then what's the Charger? A Black Y-Wing?
>>48261380
A black Headhunter with massively tuned engines, maybe even a SLAM
>>48261409
Maybe a Clone Wars variant?
>>48261192
It was pretty much 3 cards. The first attempt was Munitions Failsafe, so you only lose the ordnance if it hits. Thst proved to be very "meh..."
Extra Munitions was the next attempt, adding in cheap extra uses provided you had the torp slot for it. It's pretty much auto-include if you have two torp slots or a torp + bomb/missile.
Guidance Chip was what hit it out of the park, though. Modifying a die to a hit (crit), especially if it's blank), guarantees you get about 2 hits on a Proton Torp. It's really what made ordnance viable beyond Epic games.
Which leads to the interesting fact that ordnance has long since worth using in Epic games, where spending 12pts on Protons for your 3 T-65s, is actually useful when you've got 300pts to burn.
>>48261409
Something like this, maybe?
>>48261424
Nah, Clone Wars headhunters are fucking hideous.
>>48261424
I'm thinking more like either the classic swing-wing or maybe the Heavy-95
No, I got it.
Headhunters are chevy corvettes. Think about it. Swing wings = flip up lights.
>>48261436
>having this shit taste
>>48261463
Early ones, sure. But the later (WEG/heavy-95) models are pure muscle.
The Y-wing is clearly a 30s-50s hot rod, the Eta-2/Delta-7 are 90s/2000s imports, and the Pinook is obviously a Reliant Robin
>>48261658
In a way, the TCW headhunter kinda reminds me of a Pontiac firebird.
Anyone else see it?
>>48261731
A sports car, yes, but not the Firebird.
>>48261731
It reminds me a little of the Pontiac Superbird or Dodge charger Daytona, with the long, aerodynamic nose on a muscle-y body, but not really a firebird
>All these people talking about cars
WHAT IS WRONG WITH ALL OF YOU?
>>48261903
What's wrong with YOU, commuter?
Lets say I have a ship that I want to install smuggling compartments on. If I install smuggling compartments twice, does the difference get added to my total encumbrance?
Like if I have encumbrance 75, and I add smuggling compartments twice and cloaked smuggling compartments twice, do I get 100 encumbrance?
>>48261986
I'm pretty sure the notes on the smuggling compartments say you can't ever exceed your ship's total Encumbrance capacity, they just allow you to hide some of it from prying eyes. And then you can mod them to hold more encumbrance, but still at cap. If you've got something like a Gozanti which actually has a decent number of Hardpoints and a lot of E, you could probably install multiple compartments to be able to hide more E, but the ship still has a hard limit on how much cargo it can fix.
>>48261939
I no longer have a car.
anyone ever run one of the FFG's adventures? which one is good?
>>48261428
you forgot Deadeye (slightly more reliable than target lock) and Long Range Scanners (for the piss poor PS lobbers)
Now if only they would make munition scum interceptors (or scum interceptors in general) worth it. But I guess thats what the protectorate is for.
>>48262200
They're all the same mechanically, it depends on your preference.
AoR = Space Troopers
EotE = Space Cowboy
FaD = Space Samurai Wizard
Anon, I could use some feedback on my list.
I'll try to tl:dr it, but basically it's for a custom Fat/Ace game were the squad point total is about 175. So, super-every-armament ace on ace fight.
For a more in depth perspective, it's between me and two other anons to get drunk and blast star wars music while we play. And we're all relatively new to the game and aren't competitive--but we are assholes. And that should count fir something. So all three of us play solely one faction--me Scum and the other two are Imp and Rebs.
I'm going for those three ships against their fat veterens also. So I expect to see a decked out Vader, Ketan, Tycho, Sootnir, and the Falcon or Outrider. Most likely It will be one on one but probably a free for all 1v1v1 at some point. I'm trying to outfit these three specifc iconic pilots/title/ships the best way that they can but fitted to kill and outlast Rebel/Imp Aces. Thoughs? I feel if it can survive a /swg/ thread it'll survive against the other two anons.
Real tl;dr -- Plz halp me wit dis scum list for a special 175 point Ace game tyty.
>>48262233
he said adventures asswipe
>>48262281
Holy shit fuck me for trying to help, right?
>>48262200
the Age of Rebellion beginner game is a good place to start. Try running operation shadowpoint too.
For EotE I recommend beyond the rim. I haven't played FaD.
>>48256222
Someone spent fucking hours making the gums of that creature look amazing, only to have it be visible for half a second in a blurry action sequence. Poor them.
>>48262236
if its all about aces, maybe instead of dengar ship, you should use dengar crew?
Ok. So, this was kind of a surprise, but Dark Empire II is better than Dark Empire. Its still batshit crazy with the strongest thing going for it being the art and worldbuilding concepts introduced (Jedi Battle Meditation, Shadow Droids, Anakin Solo being born, The Ysanna tribe, Ood Bnar being a weird tree Jedi). It also synergizes better with the EU of the time, showing toddler Jaina & Jacen, Winter (who were all hidden away on "New Alderaan" because Jedi Babbys would be a high priority target). Some of the new characters are pretty great, including Kam Solusar as Luke's first official student and Executor Sedriss being a Dark Jedi who's not COMPLETELY retardeduntil he is, which gets him killed
But the Goofy stuff is absolutely goofy. The Galaxy Gun is a Superweapon of the Week, Empatojayos Brand's interesting backstory is ruined by him being a floating pinball with arms (and his Steampunk kingdom hidden inside a nebula is plain weirdsome nice ship designs thoughand mercifully didn't get mentioned again). CloneSheeve's ("Sheeeve's?") Dark Jedi Elite are almost universally Chaotic Stupid. Boba Fett does nothing but job to Han Solowhich is nothing new, but it still makes him seem less of a threat. Lando is nothing but a terrible general in this series (and Wedge is a ground commander for some reason). Mon Mothma and Akbar make stupid command decisions which leads a fake out wherethey're presumed killed by the Galaxy Gun, but they show up perfectly fine at the end. Also, Luke makes out with his female Ysanna student, Jemimmediately before she gets thrown on the Dead Girlfriend pile. "The Force will protect them" my ass
Still, as flashy and dumb as it is, Dark Empire II has a coherent plot, which puts it ahead of its predecessor. Unfortunately, you kind of have to read the first series for this one to make sense.
Optional Tier.
>>48262493
Ah they probably got even by some kind of junket of 'we need to go study some kittens and cats' to get an idea of the animals motions.
Well I hope they did
If they didn't they should be ashamed
>>48262877
Huh. I never realized until now that that moment was where here sleeve and midriff came off. It used to bug the hell out of me.
>>48262904
I think its hilarious
Nexu's, not just cuddly but they can make chicks naked very quickly
>>48262216
No, I didn't forget those. Deadeye's been around since the A-Wing expansion pack. At the time of it's inclusion, it was not seen as a "fix", but rather a way to add a little more functionality to aces by allowing them to not need target locks. A lot of it's purpose was to have situations like Luke being a motherfucking space-sorcerer.
Long Range Scanners came out specifically in the Veterans pack, and weren't supposed to be a fix for ordnance so much as another option for Bombers and ships with missiles and torps. It was in development when Guidance Chips were on the boat, but it seems like it wasn't ever meant to actually fix anything.
>>48262780
>Sheeev
I smiled.
>Optional
I'd say put it on the ignore list honestly. Just pull out a few excerpts for World-building.
Why is /co/ Star Wars the cucked SW General?
>>48262904
It's pretty strange it ripped the sleeve off, but not the metal bracelet thing.
>>48263296
/tg/'s /swg/ is the only place with any kind of rational discussion. It's mainly because we're uniquely suited to picking the parts if Star Wars we like and building our own canons.
>>48262592
I wish Dengar's pilot ability was as good as his crew upgrade.
But, just for purely preference, I'm going themed here with the squadron's roster. It's centered around Fett and anyone that would work with him--and less likely to double-cross/stab him in the back. Dengar has helped in the past. And Zuckuss? Well, if I knew the little guy had it in him then I'd be concerned. But we all know Zuckuss is just a big fluffy Gand kitten. So, yes, Dengar will be flying the Punishing One.
>>48262780
>>48263052
Whould it be Sheeev or Sheeeev? We don't knwo if it just adds one vowel or doubles the vowels.
>>48263536
An extra vowel for each time they've been cloned. That's how we got Luuuke and Booooba.
>>48262236
This sounds like a pretty fun format. Like, just going balls-out all the way with upgrades on a few cool ships without having to worry about putting all your eggs in too few baskets.
>>48263536
Dunno, he had a LOT of clone tanks in the Dark Empire series, so we could be on Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeev for all we know.
Though the basic idea of Palpatine having clone backups in case shit went sour and he wanted to live forever. Again, the failing is in the execution.
Oh, and I forgot to mention that Dark Empire II introduced Ossus to the EU, which was neat.Dark Empire's also important for setting up Tales of the Jedi
>>48263296
They just have a strong desire to distance themselves from other fans
hey guys I was thinking of writing some star wars fanfiction/au
I'm trying to jam in someprobably shittyOCs in the OT. what excuse could I give that they get caught in with the ANH plotline. I'm going for a sheltered imperial thing, but I want them to be in a family with fairly important military people. I mean I was thinking that they missed their scheduled transport so they just so happen to wedge themselves in the Tantive IV (maybe Antilles didnt think it would be too much of a problem, if not even better cover). But not sure where to go from there, especially once their relatives start protesting "hey I'm pretty sure our kids aint rebels".
>>48263296
Because /co/ is unfuckable, butt-frustrated virgins. Second only to /v/ and /vg/.
Also I wouldn't go so far to call them cucks. That's actually insulting to the fetishists who take part in cuckholding.
>>48263648
>get caught in with the ANH plotline
Don't directly insert them, per se.
Take the old "Tales From ..." approach, where their story, crosses with the heroes' story for just a moment. You don't necessarily need to go all out and use background characters from the crowd scenes (which the Tales From ... books always did), but it's that same idea of a big galaxy.
There's plenty of precedent for it, even outside the Tales From ... books, too.
For example, the lone surviving Y-Wing at Yavin? That was Keyan Farlander, the player character of X-Wing.
>>48263296
Because they can't smell what the Rock is cooking?
>mfw text replacer is still working strong
>>48263673
>Those are my most browsed boards
>>48263577
>Oh, and I forgot to mention that Dark Empire II introduced Ossus to the EU, which was neat.
>Dark Empire's also important for setting up Tales of the Jedi
I thought Dark Empire 2 and Empire's End were made after Tales of the Jedi in the hopes of reignighting people's interest in Dark Empire by fsing it with a more popular series.
>>48263698
>(which the Tales From ... books always did),
Not ALWAYS, the broader ones like Tales From the New Republic, Tales From the Empire etc used mostly new stories taken from the old WEG Adventure Journals.
>>48263571
That's pretty much the idea. It seemed like a waste to not put stuff in those upgrade slots. Also, it reminds me of the old Heroes only mode in Battlefront II. Hence, some alcohol and some John Williams will make the match up epic.
Any other thoughts on my list?
>>48263469
>Star Wars we like and building our own canons.
<3
>>48263673
It never occurred to me that /tg/ might be more well adjusted board because they probably have friends or at least get social interaction once a week
>>48264017
Until now!
>>48263469
>tfw I lurk the /co/ general
>tfw it always breaks into shitposting about tfa being "good"
>tfw shitposting about Rey being their waifu
>tfw shitposting Finn and Poe in a gay relationship
Truly hell.
How tough are inquisitors in eote and co.?
like, "take on a party of 4 knight-level players"?
>>48263741
I have a plugin that changes all instances of "SJW" and "Social Justice" to "skeleton"
>>48263780
Tales of the Jedi started up a few months before Dark Empire II. Within a year. Both were probably in the writing and art stages very close to each other, so it was probably more of the Lucasfilm Licensing team and Dark Horse having a better handle on things (Also, Dark Empire I was in development hell for a while, originally going to be a Marvel-printed story before Dark Horse got it, which might explain *some* of the clusterfuck)
>>48264017
There's a reason why, of all the boards on 4chan, /tg/ is one of the most laid back and accepting boards. Sure, people raeg about shit all the time. But when you compare it to many of the other boards, this is a pretty peaceful place.
>>48264055
wait Im confused
is the shitposting sarcastic? (ex: oh I LOOOOVE rey, shes so PERFECT. almost TOO PERFECT) or is it serious? (ex: I wanna fuck rey so hard when shes tied down on that chairr. I just need someone to photoshop a gimp mask)
>>48264178
Serious.
>>48264138
>most laid back and accepting boards
unless its quests. funny that I actually wasnt here for the creation of the quest board, I left /tg/ for about a year and only came back in the past 2 weeks
>>48264138
But woe betide thee when the winds of an Edition War begin a-howlin' Well do I remember the days of 4e.
>>48264107
>Cernovich
That guy's really weirdand I'm pro-GG, but I'm also polite enough to not bring that shit here. Unless its about Cuck WendigSorry. Couldn't resist that one
>>48264192
ok so I'm getting mixed signals
last thread people bitched that /co/ absolutely hates TFA with a passion to the point where now they're saying the prequels were good, or something like that
>>48264214
Welcome to being reflexively contrary about literally everything; enough people there hate TFA that others decide to like it just so they can disagree with the first group of assholes. It's nearly as bad as /v/
>>48264214
It depends on the active posters. Some of them say that TFA is better than ESB or RoTJ.
Personally, I'd rather watch TPM/AoTC/RoTS again than TFA.
>>48264210
>But woe betide thee when the winds of an Edition War begin a-howlin' Well do I remember the days of 4e.
I miss the 3.5 vs 4 pissing matches of old.
Okay, I really don't, but back then it was an excuse to have a topic that wasn't related to 40k.
>>48264287
TFA was better than RoTJ and the prequels. A New Hope was better than Empire Strikes Back.
>>48264349
ESB > RoTJ > RoTS > ANH > AoTC > TPM > TFA
Just my opinion though.
>>48258470
>...and he was a good friend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN74bOubUug
>>48264506
Your opinion is literally shit.
Beyond shit.
Shittier than the shittiest shit that's ever been shat after a night of drinking and Taco Bell.
>>48264198
>>48264210
Eh, it's not sunshine and rainbows all the time, but we've got it pretty damn good compared to the rest of 4chan. I joined juuuuust after Ruby Quest finished, and there've only been a few times when board drama has noticeably effected my browsing.
Now, what has SERIOUSLY disrupted my browsing in that time is two of my computers dying since then. One in 2010, and my laptop in the winter of 2011/12. So many images, so many green-text threads, lost forever.
>>48264529
>says that and thinks tfa was good
The CGI Clone Wars movie was better than JJ's mess.
>>48264523
That was unexpected
>>48264529
Look at this guy and laugh.
Clearly the true power ranking is
SWTHS > E:TBfE >E:CoC >TCW (2008) >TPM >D:TGHI'm gonna go for a walk while you guys decipher these
>>48264648
Star Wars The Holiday Special
Ewoks: The Battle for Endor
Ewoks: Call of Cthulu
The Clone Wars (2008)
The Penis Menace
Droids: The Great Happenstance
>>48264720
I know it's the cool thing that all the young kids are doing today to pretend to like things that are absolute shit and be ironic, but don't watch the holiday special. It's a waste of time.
>>48264760
It's not all bad.
The cartoon was really shoddily animated, but it's a decent explanation of why Han wants to leave Hoth and gives Boba Fett more lines than he has in the rest of the trilogy.
Bea Arthur's song is actually pretty nice.
The Wookiee bits are...yeah, fucking awful.
Would have been tolerable with subtitles. Maybe.
Probably not.
>>48264523
>Watch Ep 3 ending
>It's a pretty good ending
>Watch Ep 3 ending after watching all of Clone Wars
>Heartbreak
>>48264760
>Implying it's a new phenomenon
People have enjoyed awful movies for decades. There's plenty of fun to be had in watching shitty films.
>>48265077
Yeah, but there's bad movies you can watch with friends and laugh at,
and then there's just boring and awful experiences
>>48265077
tg/swg's homework is to watch Iron Eagle and adapt it to Star Wars
>>48265077
Street Fighter is great if nothing else but for Raul Julia.
>>48265163
>Raul Julia.
Whatever happened to that guy?
>>48265123
>Iron Eagle
>Poster has nothing but Falcons
I can already see where this is going.
>>48265180
Ded.
>>48265180
Pretty sure that was his last film.
>>48265181
Is it even possible to jack an F-16 by yourself? Don't you need a co-pilot at least?
>>48265123
>Not recommending Road House as an EotE campaign
>>48265205
The F-16B, D, and F are two-seaters, but IIRC, the rest of the American-produced models are one-man craft. And I'm sure that even the two-seaters only need one main pilot. As far as I know, the second guy is primarily a WSO.
>>48265205
F-16s are single seaters. The real problem is trying to cover 6000 miles without refueling when your range is only half that (even with drop tanks).
But then again, it's a movie about an 18 year old kid stealing a fighter jet. Realism probably wasn't invited.
>>48265123
Iron Eagle 3 is a thing of appalling beauty.
The plot of Nazis, drug smuggling and refitting WW2 museum aircraft with guided missles simply begs a SW version.
>>48264287
All the good swg /co/ posters are here until Rebels season 3. This place is a bunker now.
>>48264287
I haven't seen RoTS in some time, while I just rewatched TFA, so I'd probably watch that, but fuck rewatching TPM or AoTC though, I'd have to have a REALLY good reason to ever rewatch those shitshows
>>48258524
That comic makes me cry every time.
>>48265617
>Iron Eagle 3 is a thing of appalling beauty.
I saw it once while dead drunk and for the next couple of days wasn't sure if it was an actual movie or some sort of crazed dream that happened after watching Clear And Present Danger and playing battlefield 1942
>>48258322
R2 may, like Obi, not see the benefit of discussing
Anakin with Luke. "I loved your dad until he started murdering kids, choking out your mom, and dueling his best friend / adopted father to the death" is not an easy topic to bring up. R2 has feels and lacks the programming to express them. Of the mysteries of the prequels why R2 and Obi don't want to talk about it is not one of them.
>>48258210
>>48258343
>>48258458
Traitor scum. The Imperial Class Star Destroyer is the superior heavy ship.
>Check out those smooth angles
>>48256222
>>48256313
I RPed with a friend in TOR for a long time, their inquistor became obsessed with wanting to have nexu as pets and the character referred to them as "smiling cats".
They got her wish when they released nexu companions and mounts.
>>48266260
SSD for Armada when?
>>48265927
Friends with booze and a quick wit?
>>48266687
If they ever release an Epic ruleset I guess.
>mfw they make an epic ruleset and stations become ships in their own right
>>48266993
>Golan Platforms
>Skyhooks
>Torpedo Spheres
>>48266993
>>48266687
Following the scale with the ISD, SSD would be almost 9 feet long.
>>48266687
When you get a 20x10 gaming table
>>48267051
I still would want it.
>>48265181
Its a hilarious bad/"fun" movie. The jets were all provided by the Israeli air force, so it features Kfirs as Middle Eastern "MiGs" ala Top Gun's F-5 "MiG-28s".
Or maybe that was Iron Eagle 2.
Anyone see the new Rebels S3 trailer? Ezra is all grown up and killing Storm Troopers now.
I'm so proud.Green Saber best Saber.
>>48267988
BIGGEST saber best saber!
>>48267988
Not a fan of the hair, but it's a pretty low quality vid so we'll see how it is in the actual show .
>>48268013
https://youtu.be/Qe3LSQiMJUk?t=3m39s
>>48268037
Oooo, even more not a fan of the hair.
>>48268037
Good God, it's nearly a high and tight
>>48266687
Flotillas when???
>>48266511
>tfw swtor is so dead that there isn't even a general on /vg/ for it anymore
>tfw I would quit to play f&d but I have no one to teach me or play with IRL
>tfw I'm so alone
>>48256222
>Reading about the Endor holocaust and why it supposedly didn't happen
>'Much of the debris of the superweapon was sent through a hyperspace wormhole that briefly opened up when the Death Star's hyperdrive regulator was destroyed. This matter was scattered across the galaxy'
>decades after the battle of Endor, players are Duros exploring new hyperspace routes
>they come across a massive space hulk in an uncharted region of the galaxy
>it's the leftovers of a section of the death star crewed by the children and grandchildren of the original crew
Is this viable?
>>48268722
[Shrug intensifies]
I dunno, do what you want.
>>48268722
gotta make it more of a space hulk. Tell me about how a convoy got pulled out of hyperspace and rammed into the massive remnants of the death star, where huge chunks appeared from nowhere in their flight path, and they had to lash everything together and make a space hulk to survive.
>>48268037
I like how Ezra actually grows up during the show.
And YAAAAY for more Hondo
>>48267988
Fixed, because I don't know who made that, but the quality is terrible.
>>48263469
>>48263583
>>48263673
/co/'s Star Wars general is basically 100% full of Disney apologists. They will LITERALLY take up anything Disney shoves up their ass, despite The Force Awakens being the worst Star Wars movie and the latest book (Life Debt) featuring 'zhe' and 'zher'. Honestly the only good thing about Life Debt is that it says the Empire was against gays because of some Family Values program and it encouraged breeding. Basically Sheev wanted eugenics which led to the First Order.
>>48269275
Yeah, I'm not very good at it, desu.
>>48269286
They hate wendig more than /pol/
>>48269302
>desu
Huh, thats a new filter (or maybe I just really don't come around here much).
>>48269302
>>48269317
you gotta say "tbqh"
if you want to say fàm, you have to use an accented "a", otherwise you get senpai
and thanks for the compliment, which webm converter are you using?
>>48268714
>no one to teach me
You don't really need someone to teach you the ruleset. The beginner boxes do a pretty good job of teaching mechanics as you go.
>or play with IRL
If there is a game shop in your area, that should be easy enough to fix. People love Star Wars. If you post that you want to run a Star Wars RPG, you will have people to play with.
>>48269366
To be completely honest? I've always used a gif maker that just records the screen then gfycating it.I'm sorry.
I'm not a painting pro, but today I finished up my Royal Guards for Imperial Assault. I think my next project will be probe droids.
>>48269448
Looks clean, anon, good job.
>“I looked for you on the Death Star,” Luke said to them.
>“We were not there,” Ser Ved Kennede answered.
>“Woe to the Traitor if we had been,” said Ser Kile Hannad.
>“When Death Squadron fell, Darth Vader slew your Emperor, and I wondered where you were.”
>“Far away,” Ser Ved said, “or Sheev would yet sit the Imperial Throne, and our false brother would burn in nine hells.”
>“I came down on Coruscant to lift the siege,” Luke told them, and the Admirals Pellaeon and Daala dipped their banners, and all their Imperial Remnant bent the knee to pledge us fealty. I was certain you would be among them.”
>“Our knees do not bend easily,” said Ser Kir Kanos.
>“Grand Admiral Thrawn fled to Csilla, with your Grand Vizier and Princess Ederlathh Pallopides. I thought you might have went with him.”
>“Admiral Thrawn is a good man and true,” said Ser Kile.
>“But not of the Royal Guard,” Ser Ved pointed out. “The Royal Guard does not flee.”
>“Then or now,” said Ser Kanos. He donned his helm.
>“We swore a vow,” explained old Ser Ved.
>Luke’s Jedi moved up beside him, with lightsabers in hand. They were seven against three.
>“And now it begins,” said Ser Kir Kanos, the Guard of the Empire. He unsheathed Imperial and held it with both hands. The vibrostaff was pale as milkglass, alive with light.
>“No,” Luke said with sadness in his voice. “Now it ends.”
>>48269286
/co/ has had nothing kind to say about Wendig's writing, including his work on the TFA comic version. I see more hate against /co/ as prequel apologists than some universe love of TFA.
how would miranda kwing with homing missiles be as an ace hunter, throwing 5 dice TL attacks that can't use evade tokens?
>>48263469
Every board's version of a fandom is convinced they are the best and only rational and respectable version of that fandom.
>>48269428
I live less than a block away from my LCS, but the only games they play there are Magic, Force of Will, and Yugioh.
>>48269434
Wow, that is definitely not a great way to make a webm.
>>48269535
>>Luke’s Jedi moved up beside him
Since the original has "Ned's wraiths" moving up beside him, I'd go with "Luke's phantom menaces." Other than that, though, phenomenal.
Overnight bampu.
>>48268714
It doesn't help TOR's developers forgot SWTOR was supposed to be an MMO.
>>48271416
>It doesn't help TOR's developers forgot SWTOR was supposed to be an MMO.
after which they promptly bought six gallons of discount tequila, played KOTOR2 and started writing terribly strange fanfiction. and then, having drank it, they published it as a ToR update
>>48266260
>>Check out those smooth angles
https://youtu.be/fvc8_OvfrPY?t=31s
>>48258458
WE NEED MORE PROTUSIONS
>>48258054
>>48258036
>>48258020
>>48257870
>>48257773
Capped for future reference
>>48258054
When did Shmi fall out of an aircraft? Or is this Padme's mother?
>>48268722
Needs more genestealers.
>>48266947
Discussion of the films and how bad they are has been done to death, even in my friend group, so I think we'd just do something that's actually enjoyable instead.
>>48268722
>it's the leftovers of a section of the death star crewed by the children and grandchildren of the original crew
I would make it a giant post-apocalyptic space settlement instead
>>48271876
I keked
>>48268206
We already have flotillas. The GR-75s and the Gontazi Assault Carriers
>>48269286
>zhe
>zher
Really? Is there anything else worth mentionning in the book? Anything herkily-jerkily tier?
I fucking love hating on Wendig and his work, please tell me Life Debt sucked
>>48269570
You kidding me? /co/ are probably the biggest Disney lovers, jerking it to anything they make. From Rogue One to Rebels.
>>48273383
The main gay character literally hits on everyone and everything he sees. He's also doing Avenger quips all the time. The Empire, despite having even more fanatical followers, dies in under one year despite being a Galaxy-spanning government. Meanwhile the Rebels go from a rag-tag group to a galactic government, again, in a few months.
>>48273404
Are zhe & zher at least used on an alien? Because if it is, it's not as bad. It still is because fuck tumblr autism gender names, but if it's an alien species with 6 genders, then it could work.
>>48273404
>dies in under one year
Not even an Imperial Civil War? Where did all those Star Destroyers go? Where are all the ambitious rising warlords? How are the yobbos of the First Order the only ones left standing?
>>48269286
I feel it's kinda weak that they'd seem to pander directly to Tumblr sjws. I mean, I am all for social justice (not on their zealous level) but that's ridiculous.
Also I liked the Empire that didn't care about gender or sexuality, it cared about humanity. Though I mean that's small and I really don't care.
Also I'd def not say that TFA was the worst lmao
>>48273682
There was a line about the Empire being against gays though. It's a blink and you miss it line but it refers that public displays of non-straight affection are bad and Imperials don't respect 'non-breeders'.
>>48273383
>Life Debt sucked
After the shit sandwich of the last novel, I wouldn't go back for another bite.
>>48273720
>Imperials don't respect 'non-breeders'.
This doesn't make a lick of goddamn sense. Humanity in Star Wars doesn't suffer from population or birthrate problems, so logically, breeding shouldn't be a major concern. Plus, doesn't nucanon have a homosexual Moff? How the fuck does someone get to that rank if Imperial society looks down on gay people?
>>48273682
Its not even that.
If you're going to write a star wars novel- embrace the Space Opera genre.
That means your main characters get on that rocket ship, the fuse gets lit and it takes off like a 1000mph adventure and there's no getting off this ride!
>No stops for consequences
>Everyone fights
>Who gives a fuck about politics
>Its good vs bad
That's all it really should be, if you're fucking around with modern morality and sexuality concepts- you're doing it wrong and get the fuck off my star wars
>>48269286
>TFA
>worst movie
>>48274772
>Marey Sue
>Avengerz Quips
>Ham Solo killed by edgelord fail Jedi
>WE WUZ JEDIS N SHEEIT
>>48273821
Anti alien bias, but still had Thrawn.
>>48273720
>>48273821
Yeah, that was stupid and jarring and sticks in the mind. Lost Stars did a good job of explaining 'don't fuck on the job' as far as you need to, and LotS of 'we don't care about gays or fucking Twi'leks on spice if your rank is high enough... just make sure you keep your world under your fat ass'.
Here comes Chuck showing how 'evil' the Empire is. Fucking homophobes, let me tell you about their oppressive bathroom policies too. Next book, fat shaming.
>>48273616
Throwaway lines about a Grand General on Malastare, about the NR having new ships and striking everywhere, about it running down 5 SSDs, capturing 3. The meat grinder that means the Empire loses 75% of its ISDs. I'd like to have seen at least some of that first hand.
>>48275046
Btw I'm okay with the Empire showing it's evil with its callousness towards its own, the mad dogs and heart of darkness types, and the well managed genocides. The "they give Sinjir sour looks because he likes man on man stuff" level of evil doesn't register on anyone's give-a-shit-dar
>>48275046
>about the NR having new ships and striking everywhere
>5 fucking SSDs
>capturing fucking 3
This is Vinson-Walsh levels of craziness. The Endor fleet was supposed to be the Rebellion going "all in." Was there any explanation for how the NR managed to capture, man, supply, and pay off that many shipyards? How long after Endor was all this? How did the Empire's massive numerical and industrial advantage not put a stop to all this? What was the Imperial navy doing while the Rebs presumably captured shipyards left and right? I mean, this sort of explains the NR being horribly broke well into the 30s ABY, but it only brings up so many more questions.
>>48275159
You won't get any answers or details that make any sense, because not a single bit of thinking went into this.
Nucanon is beyond salvage at this point
>>48275159
No explanations, we can only go looking around other sources to begin inferring things. It seems a lot of people are signing up, that they're well led, that they have better tactics, that they're taking Imperial war material and using it to make their own ships (the Starhawks). The NR being victorious on all fronts I can believe. Tell me Ackbar and Madine are doing it, give me a few Mon Cala cruisers take on. A Blade Squadron sink the Bismarck/SSD Arbitrator story and I'll buy it.
The Empire being compromised I can buy too. Other sources show they can't build quickly enough, they can't train people up quickly enough. But Rax is a retard. His just trust me plan is to withhold support to everyone else, not fight, feed the NR info as the Operator so they're even more effective... and you know we'll be pure afterwards. Trust me.
>>48275321
>they can't build quickly enough, they can't train people up quickly enough.
>Over 20 years to develop and refine a system for conscription, shipbuilding, mass production, and procurement
>Most cost-effective, mass-producible starfighter series in the galaxy
>The gold standard of capital warship design
>Undoubtedly massive amounts of Clone-era hardware to draw on in emergencies
>Backing from most of the galaxy's megacorps and shipwrights
>No need to rely on volunteers like the Rebels do
This only makes me even more confused.
>>48256222
tfw space samurai slaughtering one another en-masse
>>48274797
>muh buzzwords
>muh cinematic commonalities
>muh opinions matter
Deal with it. You're views are not objective fact.
>>48274797
I don't get why people call Rey a mary sue lol
She was good at flying because everyone in Star Wars who knows how to turn off caps lock on a computer is an amazing pilot. Nevermind the fact she grew up on a dead world gutting starships and had a speeder bike thingy and probably spoke with a few pilots or something. She was obsessed with tech and crap.
As for Han Solo, Harrison wanted Han to die since ESB and he finally got his wish and it was in a way that rose the stakes and shit and that's what he wanted lol.
As for avengers quips who gives a poo
>>48275389
I think assumptions about the Empire being competent or capable or not corrupt might add to the confusion. It's just in a constant and never-ending state of growth. And the growth is just in appetite for resources.
The effective standard and quality of its recruits is shit outside of a few established academies. Once you're out there you are disposable and there's always someone up the chain to order you to your death. It seems to discriminate against you if you're from an ex-Separatist world despite being human or being brought up as Imperial. No one cares about you or your ideas unless you have court patronage that allows you to undercut or usurp your superiors and their positions. If you do have patronage though the first priority is to keep it, expand that influence backing you, perma self-interest mode. Or be lucky and don't die or make enemies with anyone more politically savvy than you. Court's job is to feed on itself constantly and see who's left behind. Doctrine is don't think or innovate- just put as many dead bodies/TIEs/ISDs on top of the enemy, blame traitors within ranks if this doesn't work and kill them separately, then ask for more bodies/TIEs/ISDs to try again. ISB and loyalty officers will actually enforce all shit ideas and punish common sense. Someone on your staff might sell you out if they're promised your job.
Idea of industry is just set quotas for people to fill, kill them when they can't- to motivate survivors. Enslave people so they'll work faster, slaves work faster right? Lol why are people rebelling?!
Pretty sure the megacorps are being backed by the Empire and not the other way around. They love the Empire because they get money, spice, hookers... and their job is blame not working quickly enough on subcontractors or that they're too big for the Empire to nationalize.
>If there's evidence or logic that counters any of this break glass and declare 'non Canon'
>>48275909
>I don't get why people call Rey a mary sue lol
>Outflies a tie fighter in a freighter
That's like outdriving a nascar racer in your 18-wheeler
>Has no conflict
Going back to Jakku or not is not internal moral conflict
>Better mechanic than Han
On the Falcon, even!
>Never makes a mistake
Arguably. The only mistake she did was releasing the Rathtars, and even that turned out in her favor
>Masters like 4-5 Force powers
Without anyone ever telling her how
>Everybody likes her instantly
Han fucking Solo liked her and he was supposed to be a grumpy old man who hates whiny teenagers. Leia fucking hugs HER instead of Chewie after Han dies
>Beats the bad guy the first time she wields a lightsaber
Said bad guy is nicknamed the Jedi Killer because he's supposedly a prodigy at lightsaber fighting. This one bothered me the most because an untrained teenage girl beat him. That makes Luke's Jedi order a bunch of pansies for losing to this guy. Also, the next confrontation between Kylo Ren and Rey is going to have no tension at all since we know she is way stronger than he is. Compare with Luke's first fight with Vader. Vader was toying with him, using only one hand to wield his saber and Luke lost the fight hard, even losing his hand. So when Luke confronted Vader in VI, shit was tense, and the victory was more satisfying for it.
She's a Mary Sue and a poorly written character. I liked TFA, but she had major flaws.
Hell, I still like Rey and she has potential to improve. I might also be the only guy on here who thinks Ridley is a good actress.
Godfuckingdamnit, this is what happens when you let /co/fags show up. It's like we're back in january
>>48273821
Eh, to be fair, the Empire wants to breed -loyalist- humans. Think Nazi eugenics programs. I think it makes -some- sense but it should be a COMPNOR only thing.
See the thing I liked about Legends Empire is that since it's a galaxy-spanning organisation its also a very varied organisation. You have your Core Worlds nobility that have the 'Human's Burden' of civilizing the rest of the Galaxy, you have your hardline fascists in COMPNOR that want to enforce an 'Imperial Nation' from top-bottom and you have your standard run of the mill military guns that only want to keep order in a chaotic Galaxy.
Instead in Nu-Canon we're presented with a cardboard cutout South American dictatorship that falls in a few short months despite it somehow holding the Galaxy in its command for decades.
>>48275994
>The effective standard and quality of its recruits is shit outside of a few established academies.
The few times that the Rebels engage Imperials in stand-up warfare, the Imps kick their asses (Tantive IV, Hoth, Endor until Chewie hijacked the AT-ST). At Yavin, Vader and Black Squadron were outnumbered and still would have won had Han not changed his mind. Given the amount of important Rebel personnel present in these situations, it can be safely assumed that the Rebel grunts weren't all back-world yokels. Some of the guys at Yavin were clearly or heavily implied to be veterans, too. It takes competence to beat Rebels like that.
Even if we assume that the average Imperial Army grunt is less effective than the average Rebel grunt, the Imps still have a mind-boggling advantage in manpower, logistics, firepower, and access to intel. It has a head-start in just about every facet of warfare. Incompetence or not, the Empire should logically still be able to win a conventional war through sheer attrition and combined-arms capability. The average stormtrooper is never far from CAS, arty, armor, or a medic. Mass conscription, BDZ capability, and a lack of scruples would likely give the Empire decent COIN capabilities.
>megacorps
I'd say it's a mutualistic stakeholder relationship. The Empire likely holds a large share in its megacorp allies, and some members of the government probably hold executive positions. The megacorps benefit from cheap labor. Plus, the Empire's fall would be bad news for Kuat/Sienar/Blastech/etc. financials and stock prices.
Incompetence isn't enough to really, plausibly explain the sheer scale and speed of the nucanon Empire's defeat unless we get info about immense mass desertions which somehow leave heavy industrial infrastructure totally intact. An Imperial Civil War, at the very least, provides a more plausible way for the Rebellion to not get dogpiled by every Star Destroyer in the Outer Rim right after Endor.
>>48275321
From what I get, Rax is what a COMPNOR type would be in the Legends Empire. He doesn't give a shit about Coruscant, the Core Worlds, he doesn't care where the future Empire will be based, but he doesn't want a Galactic Empire, he wants a Purist Empire.
>>48275909
Mainly because she's a female protagonist, and they're autist manchildren.
>>48275262
Look at it this way, we have had nearly five decades perfecting the art of ignoring crappy yet canon EU material and two decades at ignoring the (prequel) films themselves which are the highest form of canon.
Why change the habit of a lifetime when it comes to ignoring Nucanon?
>>48276526
fuck off /co/
>>48276155
>>48276155
>This one bothered me the most because an untrained teenage girl beat him.
To be fair, he had taken a direct hit from the bowcaster, which had been hyped up throughout the movie as a hard hitting weapon
>>48276597
This desu. Also there's the fact he was still a newb as much as Rey was and the other Jedi he killed were all just padawans.
The hugging chewie thing, I dunno man.
>>48256222
Anyone running any FFG games I could join? Been wanting to try em out
>>48275909
The Avenger quips are because it's Disney, and they know certain segments of the audience enjoy them from the aformentioned movies.
As for Rei/y, I think they're just upset she's the main character rather than Finn, or Poe, or some other male character. ANH, TPM, TFA, all three movies involve a starving peasant on a desert planet with a natural gift for working with ships, having ties to 'big, mysterious things beyond your comprehension'. They not only overcome a great threat to the galaxy, but recognize the power within themselves in the process. Hell, 'zero to hero' is one of the most popular character backgrounds in Star Wars in general. It's the same character archetype under a new coat of paint, they're just mad that it isn't their color. And unlike last time, this one is 90% less angsty and has tits.
>>48276597
Yeah, even when I saw the movie the first time, it was pretty fucking clear to me that he was not in the best of shape having taken that bowcaster round. He's bleeding all over the snow, hitting his side like a massochist, grinding his teeth, and bleeding all over the snow.
And even then, he could have won had he not gotten all "dude, let's make our lightsabers look purple!", and insiste she needed a teacher.
>>48276741
I never got the Avenger Quips argument. Avengers was a good movie, second one not so much... But it had more to do with Whedon's style of trying to give every character screen time. In TFA, I don't notice it at all.
>>48276784
They're just looking for something to complain about. Someone gave it a name, and they latched on hard to it.
>>48276741
>I think they're just upset she's the main character rather than Finn, or Poe, or some other male character
Mara, Leia, Tionne, Jaina, Lara Notsil, Shaak Ti, Aayla Secura, and numerous other Star Wars girls got to star in Star Wars works and remain fondly remembered. The Jedi Exile, Revan, and Jaden Korr could be made female at chargen, and all three are loved by oldfags. This general has seen several posters complain about Revan and Jaden being canonically male. Hell, if the genders of ANH had been switched in 1977, everyone would probably have fallen in love with Hana Solo and Lucina Skywalker. It isn't about gender and never was.
>>48276784
People also tend to forget ANH is full of witty retorts and one-liners. And then some stuff now is also unintentionally funny because the dialogue in that movie has aged.
>"It came from...behind!"
>>48277045
>Hell, if the genders of ANH had been switched in 1977, everyone would probably have fallen in love with Hana Solo and Lucina Skywalker. It isn't about gender and never was.
You have no idea how Hollywood works... Especially for new franchises, deep in the 1970s. Even now Hollywood is full of gender bullshit. Studio execs actually tried to push the idea of making gender-swapping Katniss as a dude for the first Hunger Games movie, simply because they thought it would attract more young male audience. And this idea was proposed by a woman, no less.
>>48277171
>Hollywood
Who said anything about Hollywood execs? I'm talking about anons.
>>48277083
But one liners and quips have been a staple of movies forever. I didn't notice any stand out parts in TFA where they had a lot of quips, except for the (Star Wars signature) starfighter chatter.
>>48277189
And Ghostbusters would like to argue that down for you. Despite getting good reviews (so far), and even having Bill Murray and Dan Akroid making cameos, anons are still buttfrustrated about it being genderswapped. And that has no continuity bible to hold onto, like Star Wars does now.
>>48277171
>Anons don't really give a fuck about Rei's gender
>You have no idea how Hollywood works
Rei is frustrating because she's the weakest character in the new trilogy by a country mile.
She had to put in less work than fucking Anakin did in Episode 1. Her entire arc in the first movie was awful (and so was Anakin's, but at least he had that badass podracing scene to make up for it).
>>48277227
>liking the podrace scene
Seriously? What the fuck is wrong with you? It's 15mins of "why the fuck is this in the movie!?" Anakin is made all the worse in the last part where he blunderfucks an N1 into the croissant mothership, randomly pushes buttons until torpedoes, and the plot-stues his way back home with no problem!
I'll take Rey's abandonment issues, falcon flying, and force prodigy over that any fucking day!
>>48277223
>making cameos
A cameo is hardly comparable to an actual role. It's like arguing that Patrick Stewart was the star of The Elder Scrolls IV, or that every Marvel movie is actually about Stan Lee's misadventures.
>Ghostbusters genderswap
There are multiple reasons for the complaints, but I haven't watched the film or seen enough discussion about it to argue much in its case or analyze the arguments in detail. From what I've seen, some argue that it was a shallow attempt at pandering. Some argue that the female actors aren't funny enough to live up to their roles, and that better actresses could have been selected.
>>48277356
Well it did a couple of things for anakin:
1- the podracing and droid building established that he was good at piloting and mechanics
2- establishes a relationship with r2d2
3- most important to the droid ship, he had help. I think its reasonable to assume r2d2 helped quite a bit, if only due to r2s own self-preservation instincts.
Thats not exactly too hard to believe when compared to Rey "ive demonstrated no pilot ability other than driving a beat to shit gator". At least in dialogue they acknowledge that anakin was already a good podracer.
>>48265940
Source?
>>48273404
>You kidding me? /co/ are probably the biggest Disney lovers, jerking it to anything they make. From Rogue One to Rebels.
And that surprises you? Right now most of the new material being released, and we're talking sheer bulk with a fairly common return rate, has been comics and cartoons. Things that happen to be right up their alley, but even then it's not like everything has been universally accepted. Just ask about the Leia comic, or Chewbacca. Certainly there is no consensus on the books. There's a lot of hate for Tarkin, or just complaints it's boring, but some people absolutely love it. Some people are vocal in their love of Lost Stars, others call it Twilight Wars.
Not even sure why you're surprised. There's a lot of crossover between the populations of /tg/ and /co/'s, including our Star Wars threads. There's just some different focus. /tg/ is more accepting of Legends because why not? /co/ is more focused on the new material being released, which gives them a focus on the new canon where interjecting Legends examples won't help unless it's done within the canon.
Overall Disney, despite assertions the Mickey is trying to shove his big black inkpen down people's throats, seems content to let Lucasfilm handle it's own matters. They just slap their logo on everything and let that sweet sweet Star Wars dosh fill their money bins so they can swim around in it.
They threads are just different, and not even all that different. If you regularly spend time in both sometimes you can forget which is which with surprising ease.
>>48277480
Thatms a strawman argument on cameos, and separate from the actual point. If the new Ghostbusters was really the childhood-raping abomination that the manchildren of the internet say it is, then Murray and Akroid wouldn't be doing cameos in it. Harold Ramos would probably even be in it, if he was still around.
>>48277045
And of those, how many are known by people that just watch the movies? The only female characters the vast majority of 'regular' fans are familiar with are Padme and Leia, who are both royal pin-ups that tag along with the main characters and occasionally accomplish something themselves.
Keep in mind that while we are aware of the many female characters within the Star Wars universe, we are greatly outnumbered by those that 'grew up with the movie', and may have played Battlefront or watched a few episodes of Clone Wars at some point.
>>48277227
>weakest character
>rewind, ANH, 1977
>enter Luke, farm boy with dreams of flying spess ships
>receives droid with SPESHUL MISSION
>gets BTFO by a Tusken Raider.
>rescued by local bum, who is actually a spess wizard
>nearly gets BTFO again at the local bar
>spends the flight to Alderaan complaining because spess magic is going completely over his head
>crew gets caught, Luke spends most of the time complaining about what they should do, what they can't do, and letting Han and Leia do the real work
>local bum/spess wizard is BTFO by BBEG
>ABLOOBLOO
>Ohshit, WE ACE COMBAT NOW
>BBEG coming to BTFO everyone for real this time.
>"ohshitniggerwtfamIdoing"
>"wait a sec, lemme try that spess magic the wizard told me about"
>BBEG BTFO by last second knockout
Seriously, it's the same shit in a new movie. Except this time, we didn't have to listen to the protagonist bitch and moan about shit for the majority of the film.
>>48277223
Ghostbusters gets shit on because Paul Feig is a shit writer and an insufferable cunt. Then of course there's Melissa Mccarthy and Leslie Jones reprising their roles as fat woman and ghetto stereotype.
The new Ghostbusters isn't funny, it's full of cringe and boring.
>>48277483
Pod Racing is just Star Wars Ben Hur, unapologetically so.
Rey appears to suffer from JJ leaving some of the important details to the background material. They should have included a little bit of her in the flight simulator she salvaged. Could have given us a brief space battle between classic X-Wings and TIE Fighters, which would mean at least ONE space battle. But I guess Space Battles are boring, right Dice?
At least there's a suggestion in the movie of paralleling Anakin in the Podrace with Rey flying the Falcon for the first time, when they both pull a vertical maneuver. Anakin slams down his controls and uses it to overtake Sebulba. Rey uses the angle to allow Finn his shot with his turret locked in position and then she slams the controls home again at the victory.
The movie is a bit of a mess for their first major inclusion in all new canon territory. Like how the New Republic is best buds with the Resistance based on Hux's speech, the reaction to the Resistance worrying they no longer have the NR fleets, and even the opening text crawl. Background material? The New Republic barely helps them, barely tolerates them, and would rather just ignore the First Order.
>>48277718
And better yet, the three elements of Luke aren't even condensed into one character in TFA, they're split into 3.
>Rey: skilled mechanic, grew up flying junk, aspiring space wizard
>Finn: Complains, acts as support to other characters
>Poe: Ace pilot, 'idol' character
>>48277483
>1- the podracing and droid building established that he was good at piloting and mechanics
While being 9 years old.
>2- establishes a relationship with r2d2
Who should have never been in Phantom Menace. Hell C3-P0 is a fucking stretch as well. They could have eventually shown up, but their appearance in Ep 1 makes for huge continuity issues with the original trilogy. Why doesn't Vader ever recognize them? Why the fuck is indifferent to the one he built himself? Why the hell does Obi-Wan say he's never owned a droid, while having no clue who the hell R2 and C3P0 are, when R2 tagged along with his apprentice for 3 movies?
>3- most important to the droid ship, he had help. I think its reasonable to assume r2d2 helped quite a bit, if only due to r2s own self-preservation instincts.
R2 is a rolling plot device through all of the movies, anyways. He should have jettisoned 9-year old boy-wonder Anakin in the middle of the space battle, flown the N1 right into the mothership, make donuts while launchhing torpedoes into the core, and blasted off to glass Tantooine, all with a raised middle finger towards the canon.
>>48277744
I thought it was prety blatant that the Mew Republic secretly backs the Resistance, but can't actually openly support them or go after the First Order. The Resistance's X-Wings are all hand-me-downs from the NR.
>>48277817
>Why doesn't Vader ever recognize them?
To be fair, both 3PO and R2 are generic commercially produced droid models. 3PO is just really chromed up.
>>48277879
My understanding was the Resistance is personally funded by Leia, being an influential senator, and several other allies. The rest of the New Republic thinks she was just trying to start shit, as they're already complacent as hell because the Empire isn't real anymore, really.
Played a few games with the vets pack. 2 ion Tie/D predator glaives and a fleet officer mk.II engine bomber. These guys are killing it. In the 4 games, I only lost one glaive due to a k-turn bump, and I still wiped the floor. There's just so much internal synergy, and it's crazy efficient. The only thing I'm going to be doing is swapping out a glaive for countess ryad. I'm not happy about the PS drop, especially since my meta sees ps8+9 as very high rarities. But I think she's worth a shot.
I have a small tourney coming up, which is structured as a hangar bay system. You show up with 2 different lists (as long as they aren't copy + paste, it should be good. I think my lists for the bill), and your opponent chooses which list you are flying against them with. Choices are written before hand and revealed at the same time.
Here are my 2 lists; which would you choose to fly against? What critiques do you have for the lists? (Especially list 2):
1 - 100 pts
Scimitar squadron pilot - bomber
TIE mk.II
TIE shuttle
Fleet officer
Countess Ryad - defender
Predator
Ion cannon
TIE/D
Glaive squadron pilot - defender
Predator
Ion Cannon
TIE/D
2 - 100 pts
Scimitar squadron pilot - bomber
TIE mk.II
TIE shuttle
Fleet officer
Colonel Vessery - defender
Adaptability
Ion Cannon
TIE mk.II
TIE/D
Maarek Steele - defender
Mangler cannon
Calculation
TIE mk.II
>>48277926
But even then, Obi-Wan would have said something like "a friend of mine, your fucking father I left burning in a lake of fire, had one of these during the clone wars."
>>48277817
>While being 9 years old.
And Force sensitive, and perhaps the strongest in the Force besides people like the Force Wielders of Mortis
>Who should have never been in Phantom Menace. Hell C3-P0 is a fucking stretch as well. They could have eventually shown up, but their appearance in Ep 1 makes for huge continuity issues with the original trilogy.
No it doesn't? And they appear because Lucas wanted them in every movie, and intended them to be kind of "telling" the story.
>Why doesn't Vader ever recognize them?
Who says he doesn't? In any case, astromechs are a dime a dozen, and C-3PO isn't the only protocol droid of his kind, there's no reason he would need to assume they're the same droids.
>Why the fuck is indifferent to the one he built himself?
Because he's Darth fucking Vader, not Anakin Skywalker.
>Why the hell does Obi-Wan say he's never owned a droid,
Because he never owned one. His astromechs during the Clone Wars were owned by the Republic
>while having no clue who the hell R2 and C3P0 are, when R2 tagged along with his apprentice for 3 movies?
Where does he imply that he doesn't know R2 or 3PO? He never implies that he knows or doesn't know them.
>>48277993
Between those two lists, I like the first better. But it is lacking in PS a bit. Still, the Countess is a slippery bitch. I tried her with the D, but I like her more with the x7 rack and either PtL and Engine Upgrade (yes, it's a crazy build), or Mk2 and PtL, or Juke and Stealth. I can see Predator working for her, though.
>>48277879
>>48277958
The new novel Bloodline set things up. Some people found it very boring and it's Leia focused, which might not be everyone's cup of blue milk (clinking optional). Rian Johnson had some input on the politics.
Basicallyit takes place before the First Order is revealed but the NR is politically split between Centrists, who won't a strong central government and military buildup, and tend to have senators who remember the Empire a bit too fondly, and the Populists who favor letting individual planets handle their own affairs and military concerns and uniting only for the common good while keeping out of each other's private business. Leia is a firm Populist but thinks the entire New Republic is broken. Mon Mothma got people to work together through sheer grit and charisma, but without someone of her qualities no one wants to work together and nothing gets done but arguing. They haven't even managed to live up to their promises to secure the borders and protect worlds from criminal scum.
A lot of shit happens, too much to go into. The big thing is that Leia's true father is revealed to the galaxy, and when they learn she's Vader's daughter she suddenly has very few friends and resigns from the Senate. She feels even if she could keep her job she's now politically powerless because she can't get people to work with her. She doesn't learn about the First Order but is aware of dark shit going down. The FO has both sympathizers and even agents in the NR among the Centrists. There was a plan to have Centrist worlds secede from the NR and join the FO, but this didn't happen by the end of the book. She forms the Resistance because she feels the NR is failing the galaxy and needs people to step up and protect the little people. She also knows there is something out there banding together military groups and criminals alike.
>>48278146Leia doesn't have much personal support in the NR left but her cause has some. Still even after the FO is revealed the NR would rather ignore it, thinking they are too small time and to out of the way to bother with, based on the material in the TFA visual dictionary. Leia sent a representative to plead for aid. She's the black woman seen on Hosnian Prime looking terrified before the place is Starkillered.
That's why they get mostly hand-me-downs and some small aid. I THINK the Resistance is hoping that they can stem the tide of FO aggression, or at least blunt it as best they can, until the NR gets it's act together and realizes there is a threat, and then mobilizes to help them. It's clear in the movie they don't think they're a direct match.
>>48277993
They look fun. I'd pick the first probably since vessery is such a cunt.
You could definitely love without both mangler and calculation on maarek. I think x7 is better on both of them for the absurd durability it offers.
>>48278146
>>48278163
So Leia's basically Ron Paul?
I did not expect that
>>48278605
Only the meme version. In reality, she's more like Churchill.
>>48278598
The D title was practically made for Vessery, although I'd keep him to lists full of Target Locking. Like the Inquisitor, Valen Rudor, or phantoms with FCS.
>>48278146
So whorevealed that Leia is the Heir of Darth Vader?
>>48278742
The problem I have with D is that x7 is just so good is hard not to take it. 3 agility can crap out on you so quickly, which is why I like more points and the evade.
>>48278998
It wasA centrist senator who found a hidden recording of Bail Organa explaining it all to Leia, with the intent that the recording should be given to her if Bail died before telling her.
>>48277724
I was kind of excited to hear Ghostbusters being made, I thought it was going to be GB3
>Then I found out its just a remake
>With chicks
Just take my childhood out in the backyard and have Bill Murray beat it with a hose for an hour.
>>48279028Found it where? I mean, that kind of makes sense in a modern-data-breach kind of way, but I have a hard time accepting it.
>>48278998
In a wayBail Organa did. He made a private recording meant for Leia to explain about her real parents and brother. The recording was kept on a planet and sealed under a royal protection by one of his friends. Leia was supposed to get that royal position in due time, but she doesn't care about royal titles so she gave it to a Centrist asshole who was obsessed with royal titles. Leia thought she was being clever because the ceremonial adoption of the title would keep the woman on that world for some time. Unfortunately when the woman gained access to the royal vault she found the recording.
She isn't the one who played it, though. She had one of Leia's allies, a Centrist Leia initially hated and was forced to work with but who became friends, play it. The guy is a bit of a paradox. He's an Imperial fanboy, owning a lot of their helmets and crap, but loves the idea of the Empire, not who ran it. Vader pretty much enslaved his worlds and starved his parents to death making them work on vital components to the Death Star so when he learns who Leia's real dad is he flips out and reveals it to the galaxy in a recorded senate session. Shit goes bad from there on. Her friends in the Rebel Alliance stand with her. Ackbar obviously joins her later with the Resistance and Mon Mothma, who is otherwise dying of space cancer, tells Leia privately that she always suspected the truth of Leia's parentage but never cared because she trusted Leia.
he galaxy at large didn't care that Bail's message was that she was hidden from Vader to protect her and that he and her adopted mother will always love and have faith in her. Basically it confirms she was raised right by a man the galaxy respects, but people couldn't see that past her being Vader's daughter.
>>48279094
It's a long story but >>48279190
>>48279094She's a fellow "Noble" who inherits the governorship of a backwater planet that should have gone to Leia, who didn't care enough to accept. The recording was hidden in the governor's treasure room.
>>48279190
>>48279225
>>48279205
Hmmmm. Alright, well okay then.
I mean, I'm not saying it's bad I'm just saying I'll stay away from SW profic until something good and pulpy comes along.I haven't read any of the new profic except Weapon of a Jedi
How would you go about making a 1000 ABY setting?
>>48278598
The choice was for maximum chances for grits. Focus token from shuttle, target lock action for vessery. Fly both like 1 ship, vess helps strip tokens and shields, Steele hits them with crits.
>>48279024
Ok, so do you suggest something like this?
Bomber - shuttle, fleet officer, rebel captive
Maarek and brath - x7, juke, stealth device
>>48279094
The worst thing from Leia's perspective isBen didn't know he was Vader's grandson. She and Han were waiting for the right time to tell him, though she has no idea how you find the right time to start THAT conversation. Now he'll find out the hard way with the rest of the galaxy. She can't talk to him though because he and Luke are off doing Jedi shit and though she tries to message them she never gets any replies.
Some other fun stuff... Some senators express doubts about Luke, too, since them being siblings WAS revealed to the galaxy after Endor. They don't like the idea that Vader's two kids has once powerful senator and one guy leading a new Jedi Order and fear that they could either go bad - or always had been and it was a really slow, complicated plan to eventually seize power for themselves. Stupid, but there you go.
Leia gets some insights and warnings through the Force but she otherwise doesn't have conscious access to it. She leaves that world to Luke.
The Hutt Clans are greatly diminished, having lost most of their power and prestige. They know Leia killed Jabba and it pisses them off, but they don't want it common knowledge because it makes them look weak. There are a few recordings of her snuffing Jabba and one crime boss who hates the Hutts has a personal copy he gives to Leia as a present for being the "Hutt Slayer". This isn't revealed to the public.
Han also isn't smuggling again. Instead he's running a shipping company that does extreme racing on the side. A lot of the New Republic fighter pilots idolize her because of her Rebellion days and her husband is a legend among people with a need for speed (and presumably spice). Snap, the fat bearded pilot from TFA has a cameo. When Leia forms the Resistance a lot of the these pilots jump straight over with her.
>>48279190The galaxy also doesn't care when she points out she's as much Padme Amidala's daughter as she is Vader's.
>>48279537Also it's revealed the Emperor was very careful with Vader's identity and never let any physical, i.e. biological, evidence of him exist. Any biosample might reveal he was really Anakin Skywalker, but more than that he was afraid someone might try to clone him.
This is mentioned from Leia's perspective so she's just extrapolating.
I'm considering picking up a Firespray next. I have yet to use or even face one but it looks like it could be fun. Not sure what I'll pair with these but I have these build in mind.
(Imp) Boba: Vet Instincts, Navigator, Slave 1, Conner Net, Extra Munitions
(S&V) Kath: Push the Limit, K4 Security Droid, Engine Upgrade [swap K4 for Tail Gunner once wave 9 is out, maybe swap PTL for Outmaneuver]
Emon: Andrasta, Proximity Mines x2, Experimental Interface, K4 Security Droid
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>>48279592
Stop, I can only get so ambivalent!
>>48279610
This is nothing. Have someone recap Aftermath and Life Debt for you. You're guaranteed to sleep into a coma as a means of self-defense.
>>48279479
I get the mangler + calc idea, it's just a little too expensive. Rex and Maarek I treat as high PS ships who might get a bonus ability every so often.
Having a pair of x7 Juke freaks flying with a palp shuttle would be a nice pair with the D offensive power house.
>>48279537
>Han also isn't smuggling again. Instead he's running a shipping company that does extreme racing on the side.
That actually sounds very Han. I'm surprised that they did something so smart
>>48279726
They should have kept that for TFA. His own organization staffed with speed freaks and ex-smugglers (and some not so ex) who run an above the board operation but also secretly help supply Leia's Resistance. He could have supported her while still traveling with Chewie looking for the Falcon and formed the backbone of her logistics and secret supply corps independent of NR generosity.
Instead he apparently got bitter, gave up on his company, and went small time smuggler because JJ just has to reset everything to OT standards.
>>48279639
I've heard all about Aftermath, thank you.
>>48279758
I read some old fan speculation which was that (going by the framing of the YA books that came out recently) that Han was using his smuggling as a cover to help out Leia/Luke or whatever.
Then again, they were also hoping for Luke having founded a secret ninja Jedi Order in the aftermath of his first attempt being butchered instead of..... sitting on an island for a few decades.
>>48279814
>I've heard all about Aftermath, thank you.
Then you can obviously reach greater depths of ambivalence. Give yourself more credit.
>>48279688
What do you mean by that last statement? A bare Palpatine's shuttle would shoot me 7 points over what I have right now. If I took off the stealth device from the two ships, I'd still be one point over. Although the synergy using steele's ability with the emperor is also very scary.
>>48280770
Maarek and Vessery with x7 and Juke cost 35 each, leaving you 30 for a palp shuttle with baffles. Season to taste.
>>48277693
There are a lot of reasons for why old faces might make cameos, one of which is money. Whether or not it rapes one's childhood memories isn't always a factor for actors. Peter Cullen had a major role in Bayformers and those films still sucked. Nimoy showed up in Abrams Trek but those films remain polarizing. The presence or approval of the original cast does not necessarily refute arguments regarding quality or the new cast, nor does it refute arguments regarding its faithfulness to the source material.
>>48277718
The point is that most of the complaints about her have nothing to do with her gender. People have complained about traits that would make her a bad character regardless of sex. Legendsfags complain that she is a poor successor to the girls that came before, and the "casual" viewers that complain about her also focus on flaws in her writing.
Luke, at least, spent all of ANH being carried by his allies. He's weak in the Force until the very end, he's a whiner, and he's in way over his head. Han, Leia, and Obi-Wan do most of the planning and heavy lifting early on. He gets one kill at Yavin and only took down the Death Star because Wedge, Biggs, and Han were around to babysit him. Then we see him grow up, fuck up, and learn from his mistakes over the next two films.
Rey? From what we've seen, she has few flaws to speak of. She seems to have already completed her training and development in one film. She can already brute-force her way past Kylo Ren (admittedly injured and distracted by conversion attempts). If she can't fail, then she's boring. There's very little dramatic tension or potential for future development over the trilogy.
bump
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>>48279537
Wow, that actually makes sense. Thanks Anon, now I don't think nucanon is complete trash.
If only the movie wasn't a stupid, incomprehensible mess with no explanation for the state of affairs.
>>48281490
This too.
Okay, she's good with mechanics... but how does she know how to fly a space freighter like an ace? ANH had the throwaway line about the T-16 and whomp rats, which gave a serviceable explanation for why Luke was a skilled pilot. That's just one example of the failures in TFA's script and, by extension, Rey's character.
>>48281635
bampu not working someone create new general bread
