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>>47972697
>>47979886
>Two Jumpchain threads.
Good job JC good job.
>>47979916
I deleted mine already, check the catalog before you post faggot.
Ooooo! Exclusive.
I feel fancier already.
>>47979771
I forgot, it is from Shadow Ops, Portamancy is Worm dimension travel portal thing, while Physiomancy is like Panacea ability. I want a replacement for Portamancy.
>>47979821
>>47979821
Generatox Rex have a portal ability?
>>47979844
Oh I see, was looking something with that enable dimension travel.
>>47979886
>>47979939
Jumpers?
How do you fancy?
GOLDIEEEEEEEE
Here have a pic of a golden dude.
Why one might say he has a golden finger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D1nK7q2i8I
>>47979933
Damn it! Now all the poor people will get in a tizzy. Next thing you know, they'll have the audacity to try posting with their betters.
Disgusting.
What are some good perks for planning defensible constructions? What are some good general construction perks for that matter?
I like this one, so I'm asking it again.
What pic in your folder best sums up your current chain?
>>47979948
If it's any consolation (but probably isn't) Samurai Jacks portal offers interplanetary portals, just no dimension hopping. Generator rex's also comes with its own dimension, but the jump doesn't mention other dimensions as far as I'm aware
>>47980006
Uh, let me see. Probably this one, I guess. I am a petty little man.
>>47979997
Compounded Computation from Worm works really well for that
>>47980006
I regret nothing!
>>47980006
>What pic in your folder best sums up your current chain?
>>47979997
Supreme Commander has some good defense planning perks for the...shit, can't remember the name, the blue human faction. And when it comes to construction, you can't go wrong with an ACU.
>>47980006
>>47980010
Well ain't that a shame...
>>47979997
Generic Zombie Apocalypse has one.
Huh. This must be the first time I've ever overslept an entire thread.
Anything interesting happen while I was asleep?
>>47980006
Well, I've only had one chain ever but.
Statistically, this is more representative of anything that happened before Mage: The Awakening.
>>47979957
I don't, these days. I suave in a suit on occassion, though.
>>47980194
We fucking hate Naruto now.
That's all you missed.
>>47980194
>Erasing the existence of breasts
YOU MONSTER
Jump 1: Legend of Zelda
1100/1100 (Skulltala Hunt +100)
Drop-in(0)
Great Force Era
Hylian(0)
Perks: Survival Training(100), Combat Training(100), Rounded Thinking(0), Temple Raider(100), Blessing of Shadows(150), Mimic(300)
Gear: Basic Gear(100), Camera(50), Mask of Stone(100)
Companion:
Fairy Guide(100)
>So here I am...I mean, if you asked me, I didn't think asking for a duel with a cute chick at college would lead to this...but hey, I also didn't think I'd be here taking pictures of a Dungeon interior to sell to would-be adventurers. Suckers.
>Still, I wish my damn....I feel my palms itching every time I get near the dungeons, though. It's driviing me crazy...at least this place doesn't have massive armies taking everything down, I can explore the dungeons at my leisure...
>Fuck fUCK TAKE THE PHOTO TAKE THE there we go
>...Man Hyrule is small. Is this post or pre-apocalypse even? I never understood that shitty Zelda Timeline.
>Why couldn't I have gone to the Great Sea instead, I like boats...
>Jesus christ, Kacia, I get it, this temple's old as balls. Where the hell's that delicious delicious giant Force Gem…
>Looks like if I get into a little scrap with someone I can copy their techniques
>...Oh no there are four white boys with swords running around, better make myself scarce! Wait, they're doing spin attacks and shit
>Hey boys I got some force gems if you try and do that spin attack in front of me!
>It's come to the end of this little trip, I wonder if that chick's still watching.
>Oh, it's you again. Another duel..?
Sure, but I'm prepared this time.
>Time to go to Undertale, like I wanted to in the first place
>>47979957
Why fancy when you can ghettofabulous?
>>47980241
Because some people have taste.
>>47980194
Hey ASA, you have any answers to this? >>47979997
For that matter, do you know some good general Planning perks?
>>47980241
I've been meaning to ask, what are those things next to the digivice on your coat?
>>47979957
Without the weird cyborg head/helmet thing
>>47978692
Haha, holy shit, that was great. Quality shitposted.
>>47979957
Like Hugo Boss.
>>47980265
the arrowhead from JoJo, a Shikon Jewel Shard I refined to be less corruptive, A miniaturized ice hat from Kirby. This is a very gated picture you can learn more about my coat here. http://pastebin.com/4U3qyr8p
>>47980010
I don't think it's much of a wank to say the Generator Rex can do interdimensional portals, honestly. I mean,it can go into it's own dimension and could, canonically (though the one you can buy can't) time travel.
>>47980283
Get this lewd shit out of this thread. This is a blue board.
So for someone who doesn't know jack shit about MtA, is it worth it to try doing anything with the jump? I really don't understand most of what's written about the mechanics in the jump.
>>47979957
Practical.
>>47980006
>>47980349
Actually, yeah, the jump explicitly says they can be used to reach dimensions close to your current jump.
The Legend of Zelda jump has perks that boost magic and let you copy magic. Does that mean you can learn magic in the jump or what?
>>47980430
Nope. Trap jump for a trap setting, just like changeling.
>>47980487
I don't see why not.
>>47980436Is it bad that I like those pizzacutter swords?
>>47980257
Overlord has a petty good planning perk
>>47980430
The magic is just plain not worth it.
>>47980489
>>47980554
Why not? What specifically makes it "not worth it"? Or are you the same anon who said Mage: the Awakening was a trap jump?
>>47980617
It backfires and kills you for trying to do anything too meaningful or for having people witness it.
>>47980617
Just like changeling, anything can kill you and your only chance of survival is to hide in the warehouse
>>47980006
>>47980630
Are you referring to the magic from MtG or MtA?
>>47980512
You sir are a friend of justice.
>>47980630
>>47980671
Stop exaggerating the Danger of the setting.
Vampires and even Mages can live hundreds of years without anything terrible happening to them
>>47980257
Superscale Skills from Neon Genesis Evangelion
Bolstering the Broadwalk and Parahuman Feudalism from Worm
Part 2 of Light of Terra has a purchase to make you better overall in defensive warfare
Architect's Eye from Spyro for making your defences overall tougher
Depending on the type of defences you're working on Daedalus' Laptop from Percy Jackson could be of use
For overall planning there's Xanatos Gambit from Gargoyles, The Left Hand or Shining Example from Dragon Age: Inquisition (depending on whether you need the direct or indirect approach), Venator from Dresden Files and Long Live The King from Dr Mcninja
>>47980430
Yes. Go hang out with other wizards. Talk to/create spirits. Explore mysterious old Atlantean temples. Take a stroll in the safer parts of the Astral Realms (don't worry about outer space/Ouroboros/the Omphalos/the Aeons' Citadels/the weird timey-wimey bit, as a general rule if it's insurmountably dangerous you'll see it coming a mile off). Work on your own spells. Debate wizard politics in wizard parliament. Help out some mortals as wizard batman because most of your peers are elitest scum. Really, as long as you're covert and you have preptime the world's your oyster.
>>47980702
I'm not saying Cthulhu will come kill you. I'm saying the magic isn't worth using.
>>47980436
lose it at "knee nickels"
>>47980752
YOU"RE NOT WORTH USING YOU... YOU WORST WAIFU!
>>47980703
No I meant, I literally don't understand the magic system at all and how I'm supposed to structure my build.
>>47980781
It's true that I'm worthless, but that's not the point here.
>>47980703
>Debate wizard politics in wizard parliament.
This sounds like the second worst ng imaginable. Right after debating normal politics in normal parliament.
>>47980786
Don't bother with it, it can't offer anything other jumps magic can't do, and the feedback effect from what it can do will kill you, making it totally useless.
>>47980812
Or, one could murder wizard parliament with a ton of out of setting bs powers, steal their spellbooks and then dark wisdom all of them.
>>47980874
this
also the perks that boost magic based on other unrelated skills are amazing, especially for magitech builds
>>47980781
Anon all waifus are worthless.
>>47980006It's meeeee
Hey /jc/, what are some strong psionic abilities?
>>47980916
X-Men cinematic Omega level telepathy
>>47980874
That is good wisdom.
>>47980915
best girl
>>47980916
Three Pounds of Dreams from Psychonauts combined with >>47980929
>>47980940
You have a problem.
>>47980940
Is it possible to build her in the servant supplement? Is there anything you have to drop besides Imperial Privilege?
>>47980995
I think it is possible to build her without Imperial Privilege.
>>47980916
Dark Sun and Forgotten Realms have Psionics.
Raildex has Psionics.
>>47980006
>>47980752
There's a lot of hidden gems in the system.
For instance, I can't think of any other settings where you can create faux-ley lines or impossible super-elements.
Is there anything that gives you a Shounen Protagonist's ability to grow in power stupidly quickly by training hard and getting the shit beaten out of them?
>>47981056
There are a shit ton of perks like that, I don't remember what it is called but there is a good one in Akame.
>>47981056
Undefeated from Journey to the West
>>47981042
>create faux-ley lines
Uuuh... What arcana do you need to be to get THAT, if you don't mind me asking?
>>47980006
>>47981056
quantum evolution from Worm
>>47979957
I don't.
>>47979957
I like to play up the whole jackal theme in a formal event.
>>47981082
Prime.
>>47980217
You mean you hate Naruto anon. Only one fucking person at a time speaks up to talk about how much they hate it
>>47981042
The problem? You have to hurt or kill yourself to use any magic.
>>47981056
Naruto has one like that.
>>47981123
Regeneration and toughness perks
or Dark Wisdom
or just fight a demon, fighting is fun
>>47981042
That's kind of amazing, since I can hardly think of any that can't do that with a modicum of effort, which the at this time thread seems anathema to at this point sadly.
>>47980006
I honestly have two good ones that suit my current chain, but this describes what has happened better.
>>47981056
On a similar note, is there any perk that lets you make the cliches of settings apply to you? Like, that example of exploding in power level after getting beaten and then training really hard. That sounds like it would be really useful for jumpers who end up in a new setting so often.
>>47980786
>structure my build
Er...take the stuff you think that's coolest? That's what I always do.
The important thing to remember about Mage magic is that to really get some major mojo going you need time and resources to set up some rituals, in order to pull off powerful effects. So you may want to consider a balance of Arcana between stuff you're willing to invest effort in and stuff that's useful even when being pulled out on the fly. Personally I strongly recommend Spirit for being a very versatile arcana given the communion/creation of Spirit effectively gives you some degree of influence in the other arcana indirectly i.e. summoning/creating a Spirit that has some level of influence over those other areas and Fate for its' subtlety.
Oh, and attaining rank 5 in an arcana enables you to create Rotes for it-which is a magical effect refined by multiple mages that uses symbolism in the Fallen World to make the effects easier to cast and less likely to create Paradox.
>>47981178
what
>>47981151
All fights are necessary!
>>47980006
Blood Gem was the best purchase I've ever made.
>>47981178
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
>>47979957
Good tea in a simple, yet beautiful setting, with large breasts and catgirls.
>>47981258
A magic beam that makes a hole much bigger than the beam in whatever it hits, where could I find a spell like this?
So, is the Player option in Overlord ever going to be balanced?
Right now, the only reason you'd have for picking it over Local is if you want to buy 42nd for some reason, in all other areas Local is just obviously the better deal.
>>47981226
You heard me. Assholes like you don't want to get creative and figure out how to do things with the powers they already have, they only care about being given that shit outright.
>>47981328
Or just your normal continuous beam attack that blasted a hole in someone and then the beam kept being fired making it look like what you said when in reality it's just a normal beam attack?
>>47981328
Can't think of a magic system that expressly does that off the cuff, but for a technological version see graviton beam emitters from Blame!
>>47981350
Nah, it's fine. Local doesn't actually have many advantages over Player to honest.
>>47981253
Enjoy that glowing weak point.
For Abyss of Magic from Overlord does it vastly increase the power of your spells and in addition to that allow you to charge them for power? Or does it just allow to you to overcharge spells?
>>47981373
How do those work anyway? I hear they are really powerful but when reading the jump I just don't understand the differences between them aside from the suit version being stronger than the other two.
>>47981402
Just the ability to overcharge and a lot more mana, I think.
>>47981401
You mean the one that doesn't exist?
>>47981371
Step 1: Dungeons and Dragon magic.
Step 2: Any shonen Jump.
Step 3: Practice one sPell relentlessly.
Step 4: ????
Step 5: Blow giant holes in everything.
>>47981328
With enough work in just about any magic system you could make your own spell with this, although the mana required varies. Or you could go crimson saint on the GBE's as >>47981373 suggested. If the latter option, take worm's mini&efficiency to it beforehand to save yourself on mana.
>>47981396
What does Player get that makes it equal to Local? Player get a 50 CP perk for free and a discount on race (a discount that doesn't matter if you take the free 300 CP race from 42nd), but Local gets a 300 CP perk for free and a discount on all Talents. It just seems like Local gets a lot more.
So what /are/ the best werewolf perks anyway?
>>47981054
Always remember to bully a lich. Liches aren't our friends.
>>47981468
Soul Eater's Werewolf perk is my personal favorite. Combine it with a Witch Eye (or two) for some real fun.
>>47981466
It would make sense for players to get a discount on lvl 100 but that would make 42nd overpriced.
What can you power with the energy from an s2 Engine/Organ in Evnagelion? Can you use it to for Soul-based powers from other jumps?
>>47981396
I think the free Realm of Heroes perk immediatly sets it above local, in addition you're able to get 2 free innate talents if they go human, which cost 200 cp each for Players. That's 500 cp worth of abilities for free, just for choosig local over player.
The only thing going player gets you, outside of the ability to buy 42nd, is a discount to your race, which only gives 300 cp back, and that's if you choose the most expensive race, the Doppelganger, which I've seen very few people do.
>>47981424
If that gem is removed or destroyed, you are going to explode into all the injuries you've ever suffered.
>>47981508
You'd probably decrease 42nd to 700 cp to reflect the price change, then.
>>47981527
Sorry, *500 cp worth of abilities for free if you don't go human, 700 if you do.
>>47981532
>what is Unlootable
As for destroying it, there's a perk somewhere, hold on.
>>47981573
SAO lets to make an item indestructible.
>>47979957
Bloodborne.Yes, I do live in the Victorian era, why?
>>47981617
You look like you never slept.
>>47981151
Mind you, in the context of Mage this very much depends on what kind of demon you're talking about. Goetic/Pandemonium demon? Barrel of laughs. God-Machine demon? Now THAT's a party. Abyssal "demon"? About as fun as injecting cocain in your eyeballs with a rusty syringe.
If you ever meet a "true" demon from the region of the Lower Depths (a subset of realities existing below the Abyss that lack one or more Arcana to define existence, and which even THE ABYSS is "afraid" of) known as Inferno though, the fun stops there.
>>47981042
Admittedly I know of a few others that can do faux-leylines (High Speed Divine Words, Dresden Files magic, the Dragon Stream from Devil Survivor 2 technically IS a leyline you shoot at people, Discworld wizardry) as well as impossible super-elementals (Discworld wizardry again, The One Power from the Wheel of TIme, FF14's alchemy tricks, Warp-based magic in theory) but yeah-it is rare enough that I'm definitely intending to master Prime, and cool enough that my own EX Anti-Planet NP is essentially a sort of faux-ley line attached to any Nasu magic I cast.
>>47981254
I don't understand the question.
>>47981328
Conveniently enough being sufficiently skilled in Forces can do the trick.
Or in theory, a custom Weave if you're skilled enough in the One Power. Balefire isn't the be-all and end-all despite what some people seem to believe; someone once invented the complete opposite of Balefire to counter it.
>>47981409
The emitter contains a turbine made of shaped gravity, moulded into the shape of a windmill blade. Dark matter flows through this warped energy field, and it manipulates the gravitational field of all ambient matter by siphoning gravitons and projecting the energy as a concentrated beam.
It has a drastic effect on regular matter because on contact it creates a spatial warping effect that concentrates exponentially massive amounts of dark matter in one spot for a split second, collapsing things in its' path.
>>47981409
My understanding is that they fire a beam of gravitons, the theoretical force-carriers of the gravitational force, and through science basically force everything within a given radius of the beam out of the way.
As for the different variant Switchblade has a variety of fire modes meaning you can sorta throttle how much destruction each shot causes in exchange for a higher rate of fire, Jailbroken means you can charge the gun out of an external power source and fire even more destructive shots, and the suit version... I have no idea. It seems to be based on the version Sanakan uses towards the end of the manga but besides having zero recoil I can't think of anything particularly special it does.
So which is the best Poke-doge?
>>47981611
At the cost of it being no longer modifiable and such.
Which, for the Life Gem... is that really a bad thing?
>>47981646
Means you couldn't apply spells and enhancements to it.
>>47981617
Right proper.
>>47981658
Is that really a bad thing though, when it will serve its purpose for you indefinitely, as it stands?
>>47981646
If it's frozen in time, would it even be able to regenerate your body though?
>>47981631
No sleep here.
Only Dreams.
>>47981659
>not pictured: stool the hunter has to stand on to make size difference less awkward
>>47981638
Arcanine.
Absolute loyalty, absolute fluff. Also the size of a horse.
Innistrad Question: (Do not play the game)
1: The 1,000 CP perk lets you make 1 Demigod level Angel per universe/jump, but what about lesser Angels, Avacyn seems to have a hierarchy of them.
Can you make those lesser angels with your perk to help the one per jump one, or can the archangel make her own?
Can you turn someone in jump into an angel instead of creating your own? (Like making Dr. Yamada from Worm the Protector)
Can you learn to make Angels in setting (from Sorin or someone else) I assume a Avacyn level Angel will take the 1,000 perk because she was made by 'Oldwalker Sorin' and takes a lot of power to make, and the planeswalkers were nerfed after that...
>>47981668
It's an inferior situation to it being indestructible AND modifiable.
>>47981638
Arcanine is Justice
>>47981689
I always make my hunters look like small asian girls, so it feels awkward in a different way.
>>47981724
The angels existed before Avacyn, and the perk doesn't let you make more.
You'll have to learn how to make Angels on your own.
>>47981746
Technically speaking, Growlith is justice.
Arcanine is grown up justice at Mach three.
>>47981737
What modifications would you put on it?
>>47981638
What counts as a doge?
>>47981814
Make it a wi-fi hotspot.
>>47981737
Not everyone cares about power gaming to the max, dear anon.
>>47981532
> What happens if you lose the Life Gem?
Well, I'm not that anon, but that'd be what Soul Calibur's Evil Reborn and Futurama's Backup are for. Plus, it's all attached to my S2 Engine, so there's a possibility that if it's ever destroyed there will be an epic explosion and I'll drag a few people with me.
I think at this point I might actually be capable of reforming a soulstuff/NGE angel body around it, FMA Homunculus style.
Or just jacking it into any body whatsoever and taking control.
It might actually be more accurate at this point to say my heart is my "body", and everything else is just a construct made of magic, blood, and soulstuff that I'm moving around.
I'm like Yu Yevon!
>>47981843
and yet, so long as death is the failure condition, it sets the game up for powergaming.
What's your signature weapon?
>>47981867
People die when they are killed anon
By that logic real life is set up for powergaming
>>47981634
>>47981637
I have heard that a GBE makes a lot of weapons of mass destruction look like fire crackers, is this true?
Also which one is the same as what Killy used in the series?
>>47981882
It is.
>>47981882
Not that guy, but it is...
>>47981638
Arcanine.
It's a dog big enough to ride and fluffy enough to use as a bed.
>>47980006
>>47981871
myself
>>47981871
I wish I could be more original, but it's the Black Death from Light of Terra. Ever since I found the sword, the machine spirit inside has taken such a shine to me it refuses to let me wield anything else. So I've hard to learn how to dual wield over the years.I blame the harem perk.
Alright, so. I overestimated my ability to make Birth by Sleep its own jump, and it doesn't feel like something I can realistically do without too much of it overlapping with the existing KH jump, and I still have two unfinished jumps to consider.
I'm passing my claim on to TopHat, who was one of the makers for the normal KH jump.
Also Innistrad:
Shouldn't Drop-in in also get a discount on a Blue Land, since they have Story Magic which uses Blue?
And can you and a Companion(s) buy copies of the same land? I am thinking of Convincing my companions to help make a mini Innistrad in the warehouse with two rival Slayer Stronghold campuses connected by a Kessig Wolf Run, for that good old inner service rivalry.
>>47981946
You know, as much as I don't like the Blacklight Virus, and avoid Prototype as such, I basically used Science of Evolution to make my own.
Has anyone else done this? If you did, in what way?
>>47981942
I really really like this image, can I save it?
>>47981871
Signature Weapon? Not Strongest Weapon?
My fists.
>>47981895
Yes. It's deceptively subtle; the GBE punches through at least two layers of the Megastructure without slowing down noticeably, and probably goes on to strike through some others given it was later used to take down a Level 9 Safeguard. You have to understand-the Megastructure is a solid, continuous mass of matter the size of the solar system-as in, planetary orbits and all that taken up by vast layers of metal. The ENTIRE solar system, not just the planets, debris and sun. It's literally denser than should be physically possible, and yet instead of crumpling into a new planet/star it remains city-shaped. It's heavily implied there are massive Gravity Furnaces deep within it literally warping its' gravitational field to reinforce it, and that they got some of the matter to build it from alternate universes. And somehow, the GBE can punch through it like wet tissue.
The long ranged one.
>>47981871
My Halberd
>>47981960
Damn, I have been pic-blocked.
>>47981871
MY WIFE!
>>47981946
I see someone else has good taste.
>>47981871
Early chain used to be shapeshifting weapons like the guy above, but late chain it's more of "geometry with lasers"
>>47981895
Oh, and for reference.
See, nukes and wave motion guns and such probably have a wider range.
But the GBE penetrates harder, deeper and for a longer time than any of them.
>>47982024
this is the first time I've seen someone ask permission. I stole it off a friend's facebook, so, yeah, go wild.
>>47982080
Thanks!
>>47981871
Teeth.
Asking a question from last thread, what interesting stuff is capable Thaumcraft of doing?
>>47982052
>The long ranged one.
Switchblade? Jailbreaker?
>>47982094
Is that worth watching or is it better to read it?
>>47982104
It's a conceptual magic system, it can potentially do anything.
>>47982105
Jailbreaker
>>47982118
Read the manga.
I promise you won't regret it.Nobody tell him anything.
>>47982118
It's better to read teeth, if you just watch them you get cavities.
>>47982175
PLORP
>>47982179
Don't worry, it'll SHLORK right back on.
>>47982118
It'll make you very hungry.
>>47982169
Would it break if I was strong enough to not let the recoil move my arm?
>>47981871
Mitsuko, the AI Girlfriend from Archer.
Imported her in Soul Eater, giving her a Scythe Form as a weapon and another human body. Imported her in Nanoha as my Intelligent Device, modeling her after Raising Heart meets a Halberd.
Picked up a Valyrian Steel sword "Star of Valyria" from ASOIAF. Brought it to Samurai Jack, and gave it a Holy Enchanted nature.
Picked up a custom Support MG, the "Godlike Draco" from Borderlands, brought that to Samurai Jack and gave it a Chaotic Enchantment.
Building my RWBY Variable Weapon, I started with an Anti-Material Rifle, Imported Mitsuko, the Godlike Draco, and the Star of Valyria into the same Variable Weapon. Gave it a Dust Focus & Chamber.
>>47981964
That was fast.
>>47982176
That spoiler scares me.
>>47982178
>>47982205
Good to know. Thanks.
>>47982250
She's insufferable, how can you not kill her every single day?
>>47981507
Neat.
Looking for some I can take earlier, but I'll keep it in mind!
>>47982290
Great. now you made her cry.
I'll just leave it that when you've traveled with someone for thousands of years, you tend to grow together.
>>47982290He does.
If I take the Zapakuto Blueprints in Bleach, would i be able to modify my Zapakuto to be a European style sword instead of a katana?
>>47982468
Jumpmaker's long gone, wank something.
>>47981401
Isn't it meant to be somehow absorbed into the bloodstream? I thought the cat lady just swallowed it which means it could be physically removed.
>>47982468
The basic form? Sure, but the released states will be whatever is appropriate for the person using them.
>>47982468
I dont see why you couldnt
>>47982515
I don't know of any information saying it could be absorbed like that.
>>47982169
He seems to shoot pretty rapidly for that to be the case. . .
>>47982320
Dungeons and Dragons magic solves a lot of the survivability problems of Soul Eater.
>>47981871
No one fights me seriously and doesn't see this blade. To see the blade is to be blind, and to feel its touch is to be no more.
>>47982618
edgy
>>47981964
>>47982276
If someone else wants to take a swing at it just let me know, I'll need to replay BBS before I can do it and that isn't going to happen for a while.
>>47982541
I might be getting it mixed up with something else...
>>47982618
Madara Uchiha pls leave, even your childhood friend thinks you're a shit
>>47982534
That's what I meant. I just wanked the Shikai to be a Claymore and the Bankai to be something that's pretty close to Dragonslayer. But I thought all Zapakuto were katanas in their sealed form, so it was a little weird.
>>47981871
Well if we want to go Melee/Ranged/Armor
A Gaia Memory compatible Satan Sabre
The Symphogear Brahmastra incorperated into the Proto IXA driver
and the SuperSonic Shield Striker
I am a walking Kamen Rider Advertisement
Rolled 1 (1d8)
>>47962924
49 Naruto
http://pastebin.com/XJJb9TBC
Highlights include derailing the plot, eyes, and tailed beasts. Also, calming Orochimaru the fuck down.
Continue
1 Disney Princess
2 Kid Radd
3 80s Action Movies
4 Webmage
5 Raildex Magic
6 Rust
7 Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
8 Girl Genius
>>47982633
I wouldn't say edgy as much as an omen, the same way Ea is when Gilgamesh weilds it.
The swords purpose is to defend ideals and destroy those who wish to harm the dreams of mankind.
Or maybe by edgy you legitimately meant the blade, in which you would be right, monomolecular blades are indeed as edgy as they get.
>>47982706
Now that you're a ninja, what are you gonna do?
I'm going to Disney World!
Need a new 1.
>>47981075
General Level Potential?
>>47981638
Rockpup aka Iwanko
Jump 69: EVO: Search for Eden
>Three of Pentacles (The constructive use of creative talents, and the expression of artistry in workmanship. Skill and labor turned to the crafting of things of value.)
Bodies are things. I'm evolving bodies. Hooray!
>Era: The Ice Age
>Origin: The Benefactor
>Drawbacks: Bad Influence (+200), Spiraling Out Of Control (+300), The Dark Planet (+300)
So... things are going to invade Earth, but Earth is going to have natural life that is on absolute crack to fight it off. Meanwhile various species from my previous jumps will be evolving also.
What could go wrong?OH GOD EVERYTHING HAS GONE WRONG.
>Evolutionary Potential (Free)
Huh. Constantly (slowly) evolving form? That sounds useful.
>Mysterious Time Stream Evolves You (Free)
A pity that this only really works here, aside from transformation sequences.
>Record of Evolution (Free)
A mental record of my evolved forms. Also very useful.
>Instinct (Free)
Coupled with APM Intensifies, this means I can force myself to not react to instinctive reflexes while being fully aware that I should be. There are times where this is useful.
>Personal Theme (Free, Benefactor)
I expect "adaptation" is not a proper theme, that would be circumventing the system, but how about flexibility? Multiple purposes for a single thing? Very useful for, say, hands and flexibility. Basically we've got a DEX build going here.
>Change of Circumstance (1700, Benefactor)
Why yes I like being able to breathe Venus' atmosphere if someone teleports me there in the future!
>Review of Evolution (1500, Benefactor)
You know, I was going to get Born to Adapt to double my EVO intake... but I am patient. More importantly, if for some reason I need to permanently go backward in my evolution, now I can.continued
>>47981638
Eevee.
>>47982734
Tangent Skill Development.
>>47982709
Nah, it's edgy as in it sounds like something a bad Naruto deviantart OC would say.
>>47982728
Skullgirls.
So if I'm understanding this right, in Overlord, all the Spellcasting classes can learn all spells? So is there any real reason to choose one over another?
>>47982618
>>47982709
I appreciate your attempts at being cool, and the child in me believes that to be so, but you are so fucking edgy.
>>47981865
Alas as long as your body is made of energy you will be in danger of being made into somebodies power battery. I pity the jumpers eho become all soul or all magic or all energy, being an elemental is just one d&d wizard casting banish or tony stark needing a new generator away from game over.
>>47982804
Specialization. Taking a class makes you better at those particular spells and starts you out knowing some good ones from that school already.
>>47982760
>A pity that this only really works here, aside from transformation sequences.
What? Did something change that I wasn't privy to about Evo?
>>47982760
>External Influence (1300)
This has implications. Specifically... I can evolve others, and use these perks on them. Not only can I cause them to evolve, but there are pretty good odds that I can use Personal Analysis on them as well, I'd wager. It's no Icon of Civilization, but it permits me to be precise.
>Evolutionary Divergence (1000, Benefactor)
One form to evolve with is good. Five forms sharing the pool? Much, much better. This way if one line is a false start, I can drop it and focus my efforts in a different direction.
>Personal Analysis (400)
Sub-atomic analysis of my body? (And by extension, with External Influence, others who permit it?) That gives me more information than I could get without resorting to very high level technology.
>Invasive Species (0, Benefactor)
Now this is what I call intelligent design. Targeted evolution for planning ahead instead of just living in the moment, very important. And when you've got clairvoyance and precognition, planning ahead is important.
>Blue Crystal (Free, Benefactor)
Free EVO every year. Helpful. Let's build up those reserves.
So! Firstly, I did make it to the end of the jump, even if it was a very narrow thing. Spiraling Out Of Control countered The Dark Planet, and as such the biosphere wasn't wiped, though there were a few, uh. Boss battles, I think they should be called? Because of course the nature of Spiraling Out Of Control infected The Dark Planet further down the line. I was really not a fan of that, but things went very, very crazy. Mammoths the size of houses. Wolves the size of a Volkswagen Beetle. Drill hornets.CAZADORES. OH GOD WHY.continued
>>47982700
>so it was a little weird
Not that anon, but Bleach primarily trades in weird swords. Yours wouldn't even be out of place compared to some of the shit people pull.
It least your shikai makes sense on a practical level.
>>47981865
Fun fact, if you take some form of energy body like the one from lord of light and genetic engineering you can BE yu yevon riding your own sin. Im not sure how you make the giant inner world thing he had going on but still sounds fun.
>>47982693
>>47982787
Oh that last sentence? Got it from some art I was looking at with angels, something about the angel of destruction being an undoer of sorts.
The sword reflects and refracts light utilizing Lord of Light technology and via Wave Particle Duality science hence the "is to be blind" part. And since its been upgraded to be conceptual the "to be no more" part is there, since it strikes at your soul.
>>47982839
When I left, hot-blooded cro magnon tribes were in a state of war with the remaining neanderthal city-states, using weapons that shouldn't exist for thousands of years - thankfully we aren't talking guns, but we ARE talking primitive swords and spears, and sometimes slings. Neanderthals were still using clubs, but they were starting to introduce something very similar to a maquahuitl The wildlife on the other hand, well... there's a reason why literally every human was carrying crude swords. On the plus side, humans eat very well, when they bring down a mammoth or deal with a pack of dire wolves.
With the barest bit of guidance, once the ice age ended and they started to build up their numbers, they were happy to classify the things from The Dark Planet as monsters, learned simple measures to deal with them, and... well, their primitive swords aren't just carved from large bones and ivory, but they've got some rather ingenious techniques to work meteoric iron. Most tribes have a few such weapons, and they're extremely effective.
I did end up going from tribe to tribe, posing as a sage, spending my EVO to make them hardier and more intelligent and occasionally helping with simple tactics or putting a bug in their ear about farming. Of course, all of this made them no less hot blooded. Just... the less I need to think about theirs being the sword that pierces the heavens, the better.Yes, that was a pickup line I heard them use. And since everyone was hot-blooded, yes, it worked. Ah, humanity, never change...
>>47982838
There may be reasons to evolve in other jumps but these would be on the jumper, rather than the mysterious time stream, wouldn't it? Or at least that's my assumption. Perhaps I am mistaken?
>>47982854
Eh, let me rephrase that: it clashed with my sense of aesthetics. I don't care bout the aesthetics of most things, but my swords need to look cool.
>>47982858
Everything Yu Yevon does is entirely within the FF X summoning system's purview. Go summoner there, and it's something you can theoretically do.
Remember though, it requires a city's worth of Fayth to pull off. Well, maybe half of that, since the summon is for both Sin and Dream Zanarkand.
>>47982779
Ah.
On another note, what's this Dark Wisdom thing i've seen mentioned?
>>47982869
>got it from some art
...yeah, that probably wasn't a good idea. I know plenty of good artists who're shite at coming up with comeback lines that don't sound like bad fanfiction.
>>47982804
I thought spells were separated into Arcane, Divine and the other sort of magic?
>>47982830
And as long as you're made of meat you'll be at risk of someone hungry eating you, or as long as you're made of minerals you'll be at risk of someone building something smithing you, and so on with other forms. You can't let your fear that someone's going to use your flesh as a resource hold you back, anon.
>>47982900
Its a perk from overlord that lets you to learn spells from other systems in a system you know
>>47982904
Are they? The jump makes it seem like they're all basically the same thing.
>>47982873
>There may be reasons to evolve in other jumps but these would be on the jumper, rather than the mysterious time stream, wouldn't it? Or at least that's my assumption. Perhaps I am mistaken?
That's not how it works at all. Read the fucking perk maybe and try to understand what it actually does?
>>47982887
So I need 1 million sapient robots programmed to be summoners all dreaming me as yu yevon...
Neat.
>>47981871
Signature, huh? I... guess it varies between jumps?
When left to my own devices I usually just blast stuff with magic or martial arts.
But in Metal Gear Solid I used a sniper rifle, which upgraded to a rail gun in Revengeance.
In One Piece and Naruto I carried around a sword that I made a big anime deal about unsheathing -- I mostly fought people with it still in its scabbard, but when I brought it out of the sheath things tended to get sliced in half very quickly.
In most of the Final Fantasies I carried around a lance, on account of my Dragoon training early in FF11. Jumpy stabby, y'know?
In Generator Rex I pretended to be the Juggernaut, alongside the Van Kleiss gauntlet.
And in Rick & Morty I just carried around a charging laser pistol.
So, yeeeah? It varies heavily on what motif I'm going for.
>>47982830
I'm gonna be honest. Although that's probably a real danger for me? At the same time, I think that sounds really cool. And yeah, I've thought of it before.
It would be kindof fitting if my death was caused by a glorified Mako Reactor.
>>47982887
Y'know, I actually am a Summoner! Now I just need to figure out how to create the Fayth. HM.
>>47982673
Nadia Fortune, who the power is based off of, also has a Life Gem which was absorbed into her bloodstream. The perk variant for some reason operates differently. I don't really know why.
>>47982873
Crux, the perk lets you keep doing that whenever you want. You can evolve so long as you've got stored EVO, and you get EVO from doing pretty much anything.
>>47982924
Ah, thanks Anon.
>>47982904
The art was nice, pic realted was the art.
The quote I think came from some blog about this dudes art. original thing below.
"In heaven Moses came upon the five angels of divine punishment
Among them was Hasmed, Angel of Annihilation.
For all the forces of creation in the heavens and earth there is but one undoer
To hear his voice is to know that you are deaf
To see is face is to know that you are blind
To feel his touch is to be no more"
I mean I'll respect your opinion, but I though the line was pretty good. To each his own I suppose.
>>47982928
Must you be confrontational and unpleasant in demeanor?
>>47982949
You could use magic to get info on how the fayths are created by watching them by made in the past, or talk to yunalesca. Thats what I did.
>>47982982
>pic related
>I forgot the pic
I'm not on the game today.
>>47982993
Could ask you the same thing for almost all your posts. You still do it though.
>>47979957I waifu'd http://wow.gamepedia.com/Lady_Liadrin
However expensive suits & shoes are way to go. For my waifus they have expensive dresses.
>>47981871
Undoubtedly that'd be Chardent, the firey Shushu greatsword I picked up in Wakfu. Over the years he's become an indestructible magical blade, armsfusion crafted with dozens of swords, a capable mage in its own right whose magic properties must be countered by magic, became an organic crystal made of primordial chaos and is the other half of my chaos power multiverse quick travel system, a magical spell focus that can help channel my own spells, and still a mildly antagonistic battlehound who seeks to be released from his sword form at nearly every opportunity to take over someone and cause untold amounts of destruction.
However, he's toned it down over the years since its pretty clear we're probably not going back to Wakfu any time soon so no pressure from the boss man to be 24/7 evil and we do get into a lot of fights. Also Mairwen's been a good influence on him, so there's a blooming romance between my laptop and my sword.
The other signature weapon is my less lethal option, since its part walking stick, part club, part traditional fighting dog tool. Just a big bone I use as a staff. Most of the time I actually use this or my natural fighting abilities rather than pull out Chardent, because honestly most things don't rate getting cleaved into bits by a sapient demon sword. More commonly Chardent is used to travel to hard-to-reach places and mock things.
>>47982954
I see. Thank you for the correction!
>>47981871
My fists!
>>47982982
>Pic Related was the art
Except....
You know what nevermind the fact that you got flowery judeochristian text alongside a japanese cyborg's katana is 5 kinds of special
>>47983026
>>47982997
Right let me eat my crow there but even then it doesnt help your case
>>47982791
Oh dear gods, queued.
>>47982939
>>47982949
Don't forget though, the power was too much for Yu Yevon to handle and it drove him mad, turning him into an animal that lost all human form and sense and only undertook pre-programmed actions he had set up beforehand.
So make SURE you can handle that much power before you end up turning yourself into a soul tick like he did.
Jump 2: Undertale
1300/1300(The Taste is Indescribable +100, Harder Monsters +200)
Waterfall
Entertainer(0)
Monster(0, Bun)
Perks: Integrity(0), You Pose Dramatically(100), Death By Glamour(300), Spare(200), MERCY(400)
Magic: White Magic(0), Healing Magic(100), Motion Magic(x2, 200)
>Hah, that was easier. Are you sure you aren't going soft on me, lady? Alright, since I won...
>Time to go to Undertale!
>....Fuck, this place isn't what I thoght it was. Everyone seems so...depressed. Everyone's more rude and tougher now.
>Well, shit.
>I can't let it bring me down, though. I'll shine bright in the underground!
>So I decided to go study under Mettaton if I could, but christ that Flower
>I managed to beat him down JUST enough, though, he was strong but I managed to turn it around on him...
>to be continued once I get this question through
So, I've been trying to think about how to approach Neo-heisei Part 2
Since there's a MILD time overlap through Part 1 and the beginning of Part 2? I'm wondering the best way to keep this from being a massive issue.
The easiest thing to say would be that Part 2 starts half-way through Fourze's Plot and when you go in, it's essentially an A.R(Another Rider's) world instead of the one you visited in Part 1...Luckily there's not a LOT of perk or gear Overlap with Part 2, since the Fourze driver and Power Dize aren't the big-ticket items once the plot starts rolling and no actual perks that reflect gentaro except one or two really show up as vague references in Part 1
Just wondering how to handle the very small window of time you get between shows unless I'm going to assume that...again, you start off in AR worlds where the previous actions you took up till the point the jump starts havent happened (or if they do happen, they happen in a very broad strokes manner that allows the events to mold to the canon without breaking it to the point of making everything crazy)
Gonna talk about what I'm thinking with jump structure next post
>>47981871
I have three signature weapons.
My Fountain Pen, through which I channel all of my various art and ink related abilities. I sort of use it like a dagger in CQC.
My Keytar Axe, that I of course channel of sound and music related abilities. It's, y'know, a giant axe, which is how I wield it in combat.
And
My Blitzball. It started off as just a Ball, but then I combined it with my Ninja Puppet from Naruto. I've slowly been loading it up with tons of miniaturized weapons and devices. It's... pretty nuts.
All three of which are potent channels for spiritual energies like Hamon.
>>47983048
>>47983026
What case was there? That my quote was "edgy"? That it was "5 kinds of special"?
I truly don't understand what I was expected to say other than "great you don't like my description, please move along"
Awesome job anons, thank you ever so much for your amazing critique at my game of online pretend, much appreciated. I'll make sure to even teleport behind my enemies, saying "sorry kid" as I wear some hindu robes weilding my Japanese Katana, maybe even duel weild a windfan.
>>47983078
True but he was just a normal human.
>>47983139
It's just a word of caution, not a statement of impossibility.
>>47983103
>Jump 2
All this time and you just now got to your second jump.
>>47983103
Okay, continuing.
The Idea I had for Part 2 is that it goes
Fourze -> Wizard - > Drop in cameo is Gaim(beat rider perks)
which gives me a lot of room to work with...
(and god willing if I somehow ever get to part 3, it'd be Gaim, Drive -> Ghost drop-in)
So...
The QUESTION is:
How do I handle the continuity for Neo-heisei Part 2?
>>47983103
I have the sneaking suspicion that the more Kamen Rider jumps get made the closer I'm going to look to this picture.
>>47981871
A follow up question.
WHY DO YOU USE IT?!
>>47983169
I'm pretty sure he has done multiple chains.
>>47983110
I was the one that made the edgy post and I just made a little comment, I'm not sure why that guy wants to hound you about it and make you accept what I said.
>>47983169
>Everyone is only allowed one chain ever
>implying I haven't reset like 8x chains over cause I keep getting bored or losing the muse on them to stuff like writing the DLC
>>47983110
It's "nothing personal, kid" and you needed a fedora to complete the utter edginess. Dammit man, you're even failing at trying to be deliberately edgy.
As much as I normally dislike throwing accusations of being from Spacebattles around, I've never seen anyone from here so seemingly unaware of what's so silly about themselves other than maybe Bancho.
>>47983178
Doesn't matter.
Wizard Matters.
Wizard is all that matters...
>>47983078
That is true. I imagine it had something to do with the incredible powers at play alongside the CONSTANT summoning. I recently read Dark Id's Let's Play of it (I played it, too, but that was back when it was still considered somewhat new), and my eyes might have glazed over a bit during the explanations, but I'm pretty sure he didn't go IMMEDIATELY insane. Rather, it sortof devolved over time.
But then again, I honestly couldn't say for sure. The whole madness space tick thing kindof just gets dropped on you at the end.
At any rate, do we have any perks that allow for the processing of huge amounts of energy? That seems like it should be a thing.
I mean it's on the Evil Overlord List and EVERYTHING. "Do not consume a power source bigger than my head", or something to that effect. Is there anything that actually helps with that?
>>47983211
You're kinda coming off as more and more of an asshole with each post man. All he's said is that he doesn't really care what you think and you continue to badger him and now you're accusing him of being from Spacebattles? Just take a step back man.
>>47983103
>All of those Drivers/Transformation bits
I want them. And I want to turn them on all at once
>>47983103
Sorry if I'm misunderstanding and this doesn't solve the issue at all, but couldn't you put in a drawback in Part 1 than ends the jump earlier and leads directly into Part 2 with continuity carried over?
...Then again, that begs the question of how backgrounds interact.
>>47983211
Leave the guy alone, holy shit. Why does his post offend you so ridiculously?
>>47982728
Any suggestions on heroine, villain and support?
>>47983178
Either cut Part 1 down to however long you're there and you go straight into 2 with things possibly barely recognizable or do it like you said and have you swap to an AR world instead.
I think if you're making it a cut off point though then it should be a clear cut off point: "You are in part 1 for this many years, then can go to an AR for this many years in Part 2".
I wouldn't be adverse to a Fourze DLC but I can see where that would be tricky.
So besides God of War, Bayonetta, and Akame ga Kill, what jumps have weapon upgrade sections?
>>47983241
Now YOU have the right idea
>>47983257
Gaston as the Villain. Do it. Nothing else matters.
>>47983179
Or something like this.
I've already seen builds go heavy on the toyetic and that's from the singular Neo-heisei jump, the more Heisei stuff gets released, the more ridiculous it's gonna get.
>>47983218
Other than just naturally having that much energy? I dunno.
>>47983110
>nothing personal, kid
Okay, edge, whatever, but will you name your sword Cold Steel? You'll be my hero if you do.
>>47983277
This makes me want to re-do my build so I can get Plug N' Play. Just so I can do this easily.
>>47983103
Okay, how many transformation devices is that? I see IXA, Kabuto, Gatack, Kick Hopper, Shining Agito, Delta, Faiz Accel, Decade, Byakkoshinken, and something on the right wrist I'm not sure what. Anyone know what that's supposed to be?
What was that one perk combo that lets you take all you and your companions powers and distribute them between all of your companions?
>>47983262
Boktai soon
>>47983267
What would he even want to do? Is he gonna try and kidnap a dude for. Never mind, he's bent isn't he?
>>47983324
He kidnaps the Heroine, duh.
>>47983315
In theory, it's Lip Service (Medaka Box) plus Sacrificial Bestowment (Shin Megami Tensei). In practice, actually doing it would take tens of thousands of years, possibly hundreds, so you're not actually going to get everyone having every power unless you take some serious time-extending drawbacks.
>>47983304
A good majority of those are Zecters, I think that might be another one.
The one on his left wrist LOOKS like a Drive Driver (from Kamen Rider Drive) but I've got a good chance of being wrong there
>>47983218
Sure is, Tales of Symphonia has the Key Crest which is exactly what you're looking for, I'd imagine.
"With this, you can absorb an energy field bigger than your head. Used as an intermediary between yourself and a power source, the Key Crest will throttle the incoming power so only what you would benefit from reaches you."
>>47983358
Tales of Symphonia is so useful, makes me want to have the time to work on Abyss, Graces, and Xillia like I want.
At least we're getting Phantasia.
>>47983179
You don't understand but also... well >>47983277 understands.
I have:
>39 Gaia Memories, with the ability to make more
>39 Core Medals
>4 Switches
>4 Drivers (6 if you count each ancient driver as an individual driver), with the ability to make more Gaia Memory/Cell/Core medal drivers
>And more toy weapons than any sane person should have
I feel the toy warp overtake me.
It is a plastic pain
>>47983373
>No ability to make more Core Medals
For Shame.
>>47983352
Nah, that's an exaggeration of how long Sacrificial Bestowment takes, stop being a shit and spreading misinformation
>>47983354
Nah, left wrist is the Accel Booster from Faiz.
https://www.rps.net/cgi-bin/stone/randpower.pl
>Jumper developed the talent to copy defenses of his rivals. He likewise has the power to force wolves to drop all possessions and he has learned to change shape into a zebra. Jumper conquers foes wielding a razor-sharp beak that can force antagonists to run in fear and he has been known to skim the memories of others. Additionally, he possesses the power to absorb the damage from cold and use it to boost his proficiency at crafting, however only during a new moon. Jumper is able to deflect mental shockwaves and he is protected from damage by amazing reflexes. He also rides a wondrous mech into battle, but using this power draws a lot of attention. Jumper has mastered the ability to sculpt and mold all magic with a thought and he can create mental energy out of thin air. He can make duplicates of himself and he possesses all of the powers and talents of a bear. Jumper can transform any vegetable into a ninja and he can make bulls appear from nowhere.
What. Why is all of this plausible?
>>47983392
Gaia Memories are the superior choice in terms of production, usage, range, compatibility, and necessary resources expended
I just picked up a lot of Core Medals due to the fact i took the Greeed drawbacks and the OOO DLC pretty much encouraged the neccessities of more cell/core medals
>>47983400
No, it isn't, though I admit that my phrasing might have sounded off. SMT Anon said that a high-powered Bestowment could take a century to master. While you're doing so, you can't train any other Magatama, so there's no parallel training. So for everyone in a jumper's party to cross-train all their skills together, it could easily take that long.
>>47983441
Anon Anon Anon
I can produce Both.
Or rather, I have a Companion who can make Gaia Memories, and I'm sure I can get them to teach me.
And even if that doesn't work, Both can still be made.
>>47983259
>I wouldn't be adverse to a Fourze DLC but I can see where that would be tricky.
Was thinking about that but
I'd be depriving Jump 2 and it'd interact weirdly, as fun as the idea of "DLC" origins that append to the main jump would be
I'd rather not make it a massive pain to navigate between the DLC perks+gear and the main jump
>I think if you're making it a cut off point though then it should be a clear cut off point: "You are in part 1 for this many years, then can go to an AR for this many years in Part 2".
That's my plan right now, but I think >>47983246 's suggestion is a good one at the moment. Make it so that if you WANT a coherent timeline between the plots you can take a drawback to end it earlier
otherwise you end up in an AR where you never existed and possibly where the preceding Rider plots never took place.
>>47983246
>Sorry if I'm misunderstanding and this doesn't solve the issue at all, but couldn't you put in a drawback in Part 1 than ends the jump earlier and leads directly into Part 2 with continuity carried over?
That's a solution, so put it as a "Continuity" drawback that allows you to end the jump prematurely in order to keep Part 2 and Part 1 consistent?
Not bad. Didn't think it'd be in the main jump proper but I'm not averse to a mini update, I've got some ideas for Jumper memories as well and if any more little tweaks need to be had I'd love to.
>>47981871
I'll just go into detail on the more prominent (lately) weapon / armor: Prometheus
After obtaining it as an Implanted Relic and scouring all of Japan finding it's fragments to make it a full Relic (thank you, Bastion), I displaced the sentience in Janpaseiga (my heavily, HEAVILY upgraded sword) and melted the sword down using my augmented Crucible from Journey to the West, allowing me to both transition it's "statistics" to Completed Prometheus, before upgrading the chains with the metal that was once in Janpaseiga. and then planting Janpaseiga's
After that, I upgraded it as Armor in Akame ga Kill, where Prometheus - on top of having a Symphogear's native emotional empowerment and evolutionary qualities - got upgraded with Reflective Defense, Evolution, and Emotional Empowerment. Gained the title (as all Teigu seem to have a fancy title of some sort) 'Bound in Passionate Flame'.
Fast-forward to Bayonetta, where it got upgraded with Money Maker, Magic Enhancer, Elemental (Lightning), Elemental (Fire), Fixer-Upper, Inhuman Aesthetics.
And to go into any other upgrades that occurred would take up multiple posts, so let me finish it off with the Tri-Memory Driver from Neo-Heisei Part 1 - with the three Gaia Memories DRAGON, PASSION, and BLOSSOM. I made the Tri-Driver a permanent piece of Prometheus, meaning whenever the Relic manifests, so does the Driver (with all three Gaia Memories waiting to be activated).
This combined with Evolution x2 and Emotional Empowerment / Enhancement x2, the Magic Enhancer, and the fact that the entire get-up regenerates on it's own... Well. You remember that post.
>>47983436
>Additionally, he possesses the power to absorb the damage from cold and use it to boost his proficiency at crafting, however only during a new moon.
Wow. What fucking nerfwhore made this? The whole jump is ruined now, and we should shit all over the jumpmaker.
>>47983493
You just wanted an excuse to use "nerfwhore" in a sentence didn't you
>>47983509
Yep. That's the whole reason I'm here, actually.
>>47983436
Jumper can sculpt and mold all fire with a thought. Additionally, he is known for his unbelievable intelligence and he rides a phenomenal plane into battle. Jumper possesses the power to steal all powers of his antagonists and use it against them, however using this power draws a lot of attention. He has learned to absorb the damage from mental attacks and redirect it against any assailant in sight. Sadly, Jumper endures the burden of being kind of an asshole.
>>47983553
>Sadly, Jumper endures the burden of being kind of an asshole.
How do we make it input this by default?
>>47983536
Oh, it's you.
Well, I hope you eventually die of colon cancer that gets infested with bot flies although the fact that your only hobby appears to be nursing a grudge with someone over the internet over a game of pretend tells me your life is empty anyway.
>>47983462
You really are reaching to try and make emphasize in hyperbole the limitations of Sacrificial Bestowment. in the case of even exchanging worm shards between companions, it shouldn't take more than a couple of decades naturally to do everything and significantly less with out-of-context perks to accelerate the development process.
>>47983436
>Jumper possesses the power to absorb the damage from all physical attacks and redirect it toward any enemy close by. He resists assailants using a terrifying group of claws that also grants a marvelous agility and he rides a wondrous tank into battle. Jumper has a reputation for a remarkable combat sense and he is protected from damage by body armor. He likewise has mastered the ability to spin like a whirlwind and he has learned to transform any owl into dust.
That's nice.
>>47983436
>https://www.rps.net/cgi-bin/stone/randpower.pl
Alice English is able to deflect night arrows. She possesses the power to make turtles appear from nowhere and she fights using a cruel collection of magic spells. Alice English has the power to cause her adversaries to become tired and she developed the talent to hurl ice blasts from her assortment of claws against multiple assailants. She likewise has mastered the ability to change shape into a fox and she has learned to transform water into crystal. Alice English has been known to tunnel through solid wood and she can take control of starvation and bend it to her will.
>>47983462
Just let SMTAnon tell him. The guy will turn around and attack him sure, but it's not like you can convince him anyway.
>>47983436
Hahaha
These are great.
>Jumper has been known to fly faster than the speed of sound using an extraordinary Segeway scooter. He likewise is able to take control of horses, however using this power draws a lot of attention. Jumper has the power to become gigantic and he has the power to transform any ox into fluid. Additionally, he possesses a remarkable knack at fighting in the dark, but never while thinking hard. Jumper developed the talent to copy attacks of his enemies and he possesses the power to block dazzling illumination and deflect them toward a single combatant. He also wields a poisonous whip that can force assailants to freeze in place and he can view distant locations with his mind. Jumper has the ability to become almost weightless and he has been known to transform mental energy into corbomite. He has mastered the ability to make duplicates of himself and he has learned to absorb the damage from electricity and use it to augment his dexterity. Jumper can create ice out of thin air and he can force men to flee. Unfortunately, Jumper struggles with being homeless.
>>47983340
hmm, what about Kiki for heroine, Gaston for villain and what about Ursula from Kiki's delivery service(the painter) for support? Jiji is of course Kiki's familiar and does not count as a truly separate character.
>>47983649
Don't think you can bring in non disney characters.
>>47983584
...You know I'm just joking around, right. You really think Antired would actually admit to being a troll that easily?
>>47983436
>https://www.rps.net/cgi-bin/stone/randpower.pl
I might end up using this as a Stand generator, because these powers are great:
>Jumper can communicate with badgers verbally, but only against a dog. He likewise developed the talent to view distant locations with his mind, however doing so makes him unlucky for one week. Jumper rides a phenomenal horse into battle and he has a bewildering capacity at avoiding attacks. Also, he is able to transform any starfish into water and he has learned to absorb the damage from mental attacks and use it to augment his massive subterranean lair, but using this power makes him incorporeal for five minutes. Jumper has been known to make duplicates of himself, but never when happy. Lamentably, Jumper is especially vulnerable to titanium-based attacks.
>>47983673
This place doesn't do well with jokes.
I'm sorry.
Damn I wish I knew enough about Malifaux to make a good Malifaux Jump.
>>47983670
Kiki's delivery service was brought over to the states by none other than disney. same for most of studio ghibli.
>>47983436
>Jumper lords over a horde of flies. He also has inherited an astonishing endurance, but he must speak words of power to do so. Jumper is able to take control of bees and he developed the talent to tunnel through solid ice, however only in summer. Additionally, he conquers foes using an accurate pistol that can force combatants to run in fear, but this power fades when he is knocked unconscious. Jumper has mastered the ability to transform his body into corbomite and he brawls with a dangerous tentacle that also grants a super flexibility. Also, he has the power to become gigantic. Shamefully, Jumper becomes unable to smell in the presence of dust.
So Lord of Vermin and Gunmetal Alchemist from SMT1, at least two class levels of Wizard from Forgotten Realms, Worm with the Queen Administrator power, use Gunmetal Alchemist to put a Cause Fear spell into a gun bought from any store in modern USA, any mundane jump in a location where it snows during the winter, X-Men Movies' Inorganic Form can probably do whatever random-ass metal Corbomite is, Body Mod for Flexibility 2 then Kingdom Hearts as a Heartless with Disconnect and Human Embodiment to pick up a random tentacle, Young Justice/DC/Cardcaptor Sakura to get big.
Huh. Worryingly doable.
>>47983695
I think that's beyond the jump's intent though.
>>47983673
Frankly I wouldn't be surprised if he did. And I don't understand why people keep resorting to sarcasm here.
It never.
Fucking.
Works.
>>47983605
No? I mean, a century for a high-power perk. That was the ruling. And training perks shouldn't help, Magatama don't level up from training. They grow in power from response to conflict and maturation over time. I mean, if we have perks that would speed that up, I apologize for my ignorance, but I don't think we do.
>>47983713
well then, give me some suggestions rather than only shooting down what I have.
>>47983736
You are wrong though.
>>47983436
>This Asshole has the power to become incredibly massive. Additionally, he has a fantastic wisdom and he possesses a marvelous agility. This Asshole is able to tunnel through solid wood, however can only do so once an hour. Additionally, he has been known to make rabbits appear from nowhere, but doing so makes him blind for one week. This Asshole has been known to rocket along ramps of corbomite using a terrific dragon and he has learned to confuse the thinking of a rival. He likewise possesses the power to transform his body into diamond and he developed the talent to view distant locations with his mind. This Asshole can take control of wolves and he has mastered the ability to force gorillas to tell the truth. He is protected from damage by a tough outer shell and he rides a mind-blowing limousine into battle. This Asshole has the power to hurl death rays from his group of nails toward a single attacker and he lords over a cluster of foxes. Unfortunately, This Asshole becomes weak in the presence of air.
We meet again, my fateful rival...
>>47983693
Eh. It wasn't funny, in hindsight.
>>47983728
I thought it was pretty obvious in that context.
Sorry, I forgot how paranoid the thread is lately.
>>47983736
I mean there's..Aptitude from Fire Emblem Awakening which is good for awakening potential borne of combat experience
Not sure if that counts though.
If it's personal experince then possibly if you wanna go that for, a simulation with sped-up time and randomized scenario building?
>>47983760
Okay. What perks are there that help maturation from conflict and time? I'm interested to know.
>>47983784
Okay, that's one. Are there any others?
>>47983736
While you are TECHNICALLY right, Worm_Anon himself doesn't consider the powers given in Worm to be on the same level as the Super Duper Ultra Fuckinator 5000 package that the 1000 CP races give you.
No, I am not going to rule on how long Worm powers take to develop via Sacrificial Bestowment.
>>47983736
You are so full of shit. At this point, you are actually just making stuff up to suit your position. Stop fucking posting if all you can do to defend yourself is lie.
>>47983793
And neither do I. Worm powers aren't that super-strong. I think the problem here is that anon and I disagree on what "high end" perks mean.
>>47983798
I point you to the post right above you >>47983793.
>>47983713
Did we ever get a ruling on whether Pixar movies, which is a subsidiary of Disney, are eligible for that jump? I kind of want to make Wall-E the hero. Stitch and Kusco are also strong contenders for roles.
Who did everyone else pick?
>>47983789
Well, Random Encounters form Order of the Stick allows you to be able to find challenging enemies regardless of "level" and can be turned off. While it won't speed such development directly, indirectly it should.
>>47983478
Oh, forgot to mention in here:
Adorning Prometheus are five Metal Vessels, containing Djinn (ancient sorcerers from a dead universe who've agreed to serve those who have the potential of becoming Kings in the next world), meaning on top of Prometheus set + the Gaia Memory powers, I have five variable spell lists and powersets from transitioning from Djinn Equip to Djinn Equip.
have some examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6CdtLbbg0o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgVQOqK8Yos
https://youtu.be/PIkIhD9Atjg?t=1m26s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmHqF5IDr3Y
>>47983789
There are learning perks (of which there are many, including Git Gud from TOME from off the top of my head) though I imagine they can't be that useful for practical experience, maybe something like the XP relics from Borderlands(not offered in jump but they exist) or any other 'Experience' boosting gear in jumps?
>>47983834
No, but Elona is still around so ask him when you see him.
>>47983834
my old chain I had Violet Parr as hero and Audrey Rocio Ramirez as support with Dr Facilier as villain. It only says disney animated films. Doesn't say that computer animated doesn't count.
>>47983736
A century for the 1000 CP Tribrid, and significantly less for just one 1000 CP race.
For that matter, accelerated growth and development perks are a thing. There are all kinds of other growth and develop accelerators outside perks too, for that matter.
By the way, I've noticed that even though you still insist on a fairly ridiculous timescale on how long Sacrificial Bestowment works to trade perks around, you've still backpedaled from your initial insertion just to make yourself look less fucking ridiculous.
>>47983908
>A century for the 1000 CP Tribrid, and significantly less for just one 1000 CP race.
That's your standard for "strong". And you think that most perks would take less time than a century? Odd. Well, I can see that rational conversation with you is pointless.
>>47983964
Holy fuck. I can't believe this is real.
Everyone, look. Look at this man and laugh.
Kind of weird question, but are there any perks that cause your body to mutate to reflect your powers? Just an aesthetic thing, nothing practical.
>>47983908
I believe the original ruling was that a single 1000 CP race boostsed by a capstone would take 240 years, 100 years less if it was just the race or the capstone rather than both.
>>47983964
You must be a troll at this point. You must actually be the other guy samefagging and falseflagging. There's no other explanation. No one can actually believe this.
>>47983964
Something can be "strong" but still weaker than something else, or "weak" but still stronger than something else.
It's a sliding scale, not an absolute "X years for Y, Z years for W, etc" scale.
I feel like a fish.
>>47984020
Tribrids a shit, man. Worst thing to spend your CP on.
>>47984011
I remembering it being that the tribrid is like 120 and one 1000 cp race was way less.
>>47984036
Which is true again?
>>47984036
Right. And I'm saying that if a tribrid is what is meant as "strong" when referncing the "strong things would take a century", then actually strong perks should take thousands of years.
>>47984054
>>So, how long would it take for someone to master a Magatama (with Boosted Chosen of Raphael/Herald powers) gained through Sacrificial Bestowment?
>>About 40 years for them to draw on all the juice in it, then two centuries to work back up to full level, if you mean a Magatama with both Boosted CoR and Herald powers. The second number goes down to a century if you mean only one of the two.
>>47984057
He's still doing it. Is this shitposting at this point? I feel like I'm picking on a retarded child.
>>47984004
I don't know if it's exactly what you're looking for, but both Worm and Xmen Movies have drawbacks that change your appearance, with varying levels giving more cp and more extreme changes.
But it's like a one time thing, and doesn't evolve to match your powerset constantly, so YMMV.
>>47984082
SMT a shit. Fight me, anon.
>>47984091
Well, what I want is for my biology to imply my powers, like having a metallic skin for durability flame glands for fire powers or things like that. I'd want it to update, though. Maybe I should just get one of those perks that lets you theme your powers aesthetically and pick "anatomy" as the theme. You think that could work?
>>47984080
Hey SMT anon, would it grow faster if you dump Evo into a Magatama?
>>47983478
>>47983851
So, Kamen Rider Shoujo - did you forget that Magi comes with a cloud of Rukh to support you at all times?
You have a cloud of glowing butterflies following you. Along with your trail of rose petals and sakura blossoms.
>>47983369
I'd love Zestiria, personally. Armament would be a really neat grab, and what little I was able to experience of the game before my computer gave out was great.
>>47984160
At what point do you think the cloud gets thick enough that you can no longer see the Rider inside it?
>>47984123
I'd just use shapeshifting and themed powersets for it, honestly. Pick up some metal skin, ascribe all toughness perks to that, want people to know your eyes shoot lasers? Give them a fancy pattern.
>>47984094
Oh. My feelings. They are so hurt. Very badly. The pain.
>>47984140
...I don't think so. You might change how the powers grow, though, but that's squarely in the realm of fanwank.
>>47984181
I've yet to play Zesty. It's on sale right now so I'm planning on picking it up as soon as I get some cash. But if I had my way I'd make jumps for all of them, I'd even go back and play some older ones I missed.
>>47983834
http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Characters_in_the_Disney_animated_features_canon
A directory for characters appearing in the films of the Disney animated features canon lineup.
Please do not put characters from spin-off material or film sequels, since they did not appear in the film of origin.
Pixar films are also not part of this lineup.
>>47984123
It's not exactly what you want, but Mutational Mastery from RE might help out.
>-Mutational Mastery (600CP) (50% off: B.O.W.): You are your own master. Sure, they can try to stick you with needles or graft things on you, but at the end of the day it is your mind that controls the body. Not theirs. Your sense of self has an iron-clad hold upon your form, and as a result your body has obtained an odd quirk. When willingly being given mutagens or genetic splices, you can determine what physical traits even appear on your body, and where they go. Virus that gives giant shoulder eyes but grants amazing regen? Move the eye to the chest, or even just make a tiny third eye on the forehead. It's your call, now.
>>47984203
>>47984273
Cool. Thanks, anon and Red.
>>47984160You're a sonofa bitch you know that, right?
>>47984187
Knowing my luck, they're just light enough to not blind people, yet just dense enough to make me stand out from the shine.
Fook.
>>47984209
>...I don't think so. You might change how the powers grow, though, but that's squarely in the realm of fanwank.
Can I hear how you came to this conclusion so I can understand your thought process on how Magatama grow?
>>47984209
By the way SMTAnon, given your bad memory when it comes to what exactly 1000 cp races/tribrids are capable of and how strong they are, if you end up making contradictory statements is it okay if we just pick whichever one we want to estimate our power from?
>>47984229
Who are you?
>>47984397
no one in particular, just posting that because it is an answer to the question. Not an official from the jumpmaker answer, or the correct answer but a possible answer.
For those of you who went Small Town or City Life in Pokemon, where were you from?
It looks like I'm from Castelia this time around and I thought I'd ask.
>>47984337
Evo is evolutionary energy, right? If you're not talking about EVO Evo then fuck me in half I'm sorry.
The first half is the host acclimating to the Magatama's power. In that case... well, Evo might help the host himself skip ahead by artificially attuning them to the powers. The second half is the Magatama growing in power to match the original donor, even if the power ordinarily is incapable of growth. This part is closer to, as an example, someone going through puberty. Now, the thing is, puberty in this case is enforced by the Benefactor. You could take a scraggly teen and turn them into an adult Ubermensch normally, but in this case you'd end up turning that teen into a juvenile Eternal or Inhuman.
>>47984340
Unless something actually goes into the jump, feel free to apply Death of the Author to anything I say.
>>47984454
I never thought to fill that part in, huh. Can anyone remind me what the small towns in Sinnoh were and what they were like? If the ice town qualifies I'd go with that, it's fairly empty in the games, but maybe the anime made it bigger?
>>47984498
You are right, it is EVO's Evo I'm talking about, just didn't, and still kind of don't, understand this part in particular
>You could take a scraggly teen and turn them into an adult Ubermensch normally, but in this case you'd end up turning that teen into a juvenile Eternal or Inhuman.
I mean, I kind of get it, but not completely.
>>47984526
You've got:
>Twinleaf (starter town)
>Sandgem (where the lab is)
>Floaroma (it's full of flowers)
>Solaceon (calm and peaceful and the Day Care is here)
>Celestic (a traditional place full of old people)
And that's it unless you grab from the anime.
>>47984553
Aging a Magatama doesn't actually generate the power growth that comes with time, you 'biologically' made it grow older, but that didn't increase the power it had.
>>47984553
Oh boy time for bad analogies.
Imagine a train on a track. The track is the Magatama's power growth curve, the train is some dude's Magatama, and the dude is still away from the station.
By using Evo, you could help the dude get to the train faster. Once he boards it, him running faster won't help.
The train starts once he boards. The train speeds up and speeds down due to specific outside stimuli, and is physically incapable of switching tracks.
You can not use evo to make the train go faster, but you can use evo to change the track itself, altering the power the dude will gain, but not increasing it as the train continues chugging along with the same speed it had before.
...This is complete fucking nonsense.
>>47984702
Would using/not using the power granted by a magatama make it reach full strength faster/slower respectivly?
>>47984702
So your saying that not only can you hand out any power or get it if you give this perk to others, but you basically have an unrestricted version of Real Eater to go alongside and change the perks your giving as you wish?
Christ and I thought it couldn't get any more fucking broken. Is there any reason to not get Sacrificial Bestowment by now?
>>47984653
I think it's viable to draw from the anime for towns, though I personally wouldn't unless it was really appealing.
Guess Snowpoint is too big judging by this anime picture, huh. Well it's a shame because all the Sinnoh towns look boring and don't really suit the kind of environment I like, so lacking better alternatives, I guess it's Sandgem. I don't really care for it, though.
>>47984778
I think we need a name for you. You were obviously poking him with hostility and poorly worded questions until he'd slip up and say something you could misconstrue in the worst way possible and use it to shitpost.
>>47984734
Usage speeds the growth up, while neglect slows it down. It's like a muscle.
>>47984801
>We should exonerate and acknowledge shitposters by rewarding them with titles
Yeah, good call.
>>47984801
Does Samefag anon work as a name for you? You know, since you constantly accuse everyone of being the same person with zero proof.
>>47984702
If you're going to allow perks and powers to be changed like this, could you at least put in some guidelines so we don't have people claim they can make a teleporting power let them move through time instead of space or make all their strength perks boost magic or some stupid shit like that?
>>47984875
Dude, it's a perk combo, not a native part of Sacrificial Bestowment. Fuck off.
>>47984875
If someone's shameless/stupid/power-hungry enough to wank that way, then me telling them to be reasonable and not forget the limitations of the key ability (Evo) that allows you to change powers given by Sacrificial Bestowment isn't going to do shit.
>>47984887
No! SMTAnon must bow down to me and my almighty judgements!
>>47984904
What limitations? Why couldn't they just use geneforce or some other biology manipulating ability? Since Evo is working, apparently they should too.
This shit makes me glad I didn't take Sacrifical Wankment. Shit's hyped more than Worm or Naruto now.
Question for SMTAnon about Hidden Power.
You say it gives you a max level of 99, What is your level without it?
And each boost it gives you lowers that level by 22 levels, does that include the first boost?
If so could you (for example) take Sacrificial Endowment And Dormant power and forgo the ability to make Candles automatically at the beginning (so your max level does not drop), and hone that ability over time as your power grows? Because right now Dormant Power seems sort of like a trap perk...
>>47984919
SMT jump has turned into little more then a 4 choice build by now anyway. 90% of people just pick the 3 1000cp races, Sacrificial Bestowment and that's it. The fact that they just get stronger and stronger as SMTanon adds more to those perks just makes it worse.
>>47984904
Just ignore him, he wants to attack you since no other jumpmakers are posting.
>>47984937
Ignore this anon. People like this are disgusting, shutting down any criticism they don't like out of baseless suspicion and witchhunting.
Right, so how do I incorporate potions and stuff into my blood again?
>>47984943
You post that every time you decide it's time to hang a jumpmaker.
Knowing that Doom 2016 lasts all of a few days at most what would we do there for the rest of the ten years? Most of us probably went there to kill absurd amounts of demons but doom guy forces them to fuck off pretty early into your time there.
>>47984702
The way I read this is that Sacrificial Bestowment's growth over time is set and can't be accelerated by outside manipulations?
>>47984950
And you post that every time in response. Problem is you still have zero proof of anything you claim. If only you had a brain cell maybe you'd try to make an argument that isn't just attacking people for nothing.
>>47984934
That's not true, he clarified/nerfed Tribrid.
>>47984816
Which jump is this talk about?
It it called Evo as well? I just want to know what's going on.
>>47984947
Sim Ant. Go Cheat Mode: FIRE ANT and pick the Water variant.
>>47984934
Eh. It's his choice. It doesn't affect me as I didn't pick any of those, I was just happy with having a boatload of demon bodies to cut apart and experiment on, to say nothing of replicating my own condition.
>>47984943
It's not baseless paranoia when you are doing exactly the way we're accusing you of. If someone is committing murder, and they do it in the same style as someone else, you can't call it baseless paranoia to accuse you of having done both murders.
>>47984962
You always react the same way, which is a callsign. It also takes the heat off the jumpmaker and makes you yell at me for calling you out while you desperately pretend to be someone else, which is one of my few goals in doing this.
>>47984904
To be fair, I also want to know what limits you're referring to. It's a bit unclear on how Evo, what's usually used for evolving biological beings from what I know, is meant to apply to powers or perks, especially the more meta perks. I'd also like to know why Evo works and if other stuff that manipulate biology would work, or if it has to be evolution controlling or some other factor.
>>47984915
By that logic, I could jump Geneforge, get some intelligence perks under my belt, then take the Teleportation power from X-Men Movies and change it so I move through time instead of space.
>>47984947
I do believe SimAnt has something along those lines.
>>47984954
That's about right, I suppose.
>>47984972
The perk-giving ability is from Shin Megami Tensei 1. The Evo stuff is from EVO: Search for Eden.
>>47984993
>EVO: Search for Eden.
Thank you.
>>47984973
Thanks! Does anyone know if it applies to other bodily fluids as well, or if we have any control of that?
I'd rather not have anyone start mutating just because I sneezed anywhere in their vicinity or something like that.
>>47984993
God fucking dammit. That's why I'm asking you. What fucking limits are you talking about? Why does this work and not those? Or are you literally just making this shit up so people don't get angry at you for telling them no straight up and don't have any reason for why it does?
>>47984993
Jumpmakers are always such cute little naive goldfish, answering every post even when anons are warning them not to bite bait. It's sweet, but exasperating.
So just finished watching season finale of Game of Thrones and was wondering,
Did you jumpers base your build on the books or the show and are you likely to change it with where the story is going now?
Team Tyrion FTW
Would someone mind putting this up on the drive for me?
>>47985031
Books, and I just murder everyone because they're terrible scum.
>>47985038
Who are you anon?
>>47985025
Because Sacrificial Bestowment is creating a worm with a power that you're putting inside the body of someone else. When you use the Evo, which is Evolutionary energy and different from Geneforge biological alteration magic, you are using it on the worm that is inside the person's body that holds the power.
>>47984947
>>47984973
Oh, right. Fucking derp.
You probably want to pick up Mixing Mixtures from Banjo-Kazooie which pretty much makes it so mixing a shitton of potions together won't have any conflicting issues.
>>47985012
I BELIEVE you have control over how you produce/push out those new chemicals. I believe so. Just... I'd be careful just in case.
>>47985030
It might be because they're better people then you and give everyone a chance, rather then only listening to people sucking them off already. Go back to SB if you really think Jumpmakers should only listen to people who agree with everything they do you wanker.
>>47985046
>>47985038
Whoops.
>>47985053
Oh look, he's dragging up Spacebattles now. He loves that trick.
>>47985038
Well, that depends.
Are you just reposting this from prior threads?
>>47985061
Yes.
>>47985038
Thready reminder that Hinata is best girl and Tsunade is best tits.
>>47984454
I guess I always sortof imagined I was from Azalea Town, if I'm honest. It's kindof the dinkiest town, outside of New Bark.
The Bug Gym (gain your first badge by defeating... bugs!) is there, and there's Kurt, and I guess there's also the Slowpoke Well? But in terms of size or interesting things to do, it is just the most worthless town. I don't think there are actually any houses that don't have some kind of purpose to it -- which means that it's less of a "town" and more like a mandated plot stop.
It's also sandwiched between a series of caves and a fuckhuge forest.
... I guess that'd mean one of my first Pokemon was actually a Slowpoke, wouldn't it?
>>47985059
>actually forgetting your name in this situation
I shouldn't laugh, but I am.Mostly because I've done it before, too.
>>47985049
Wait, so the powers that you give to the worms that you implant into other people are directly tied to the worms physiology?
>>47985049
So why can't you use Geneforge on that worm? Or Biosculpter from Worm? Or some other form of magic that can alter creatures, plenty of systems can do that
>>47985071
Every girl in Naruto is worst girl.
>>47985071
Reminder that the Hyuuga are actually illuminati eugenics.
>>47985050
Also, thanks!
>>47985084
Actually, if this is true, can't we just extract the power from the worm's DNA or something and spread it around much easier and quicker? I'm sure we can use any number of perks that make you accept mutations or whatever quicker to speed up the growth too right?
>>47985102
If we accept that theory, I have to wonder if he'll want me to marry Hanabi.
>Uzumaki
>Senju
>Wood Release
>Kaguya but I'm keeping that shit a secret
That's basically a eugenicist's wet dream. The only way it could be better is if I was an Uchiha too.
>>47985084
>>47985087
>>47985108
Because Evo isn't biological alteration magic or whatever, it's evolutionary energy, get it through your thick fucking heads already.
>>47985099
A lot of the characters in Naruto are okay, even if the plot is retarded.
>>47985046
>Books, and I just murder everyone because they're terrible scum.
Not my boys Tyrion, Hodor, and Bronn right? Uh...maybe Bronn, he is a morally dubious individual but also useful and entertaining.
But yeah, 99% can be purged to save Westeros from stupidity
>>47985121
...so fucking what? Evo doesn't evolve superpowers you twit, it evolves physical things. And so what if you're using biological alteration magic, you can accomplish anything with that that you can by just evolving something. More and more sure you don't know what you're talking about in the slightest.
>>47985121
He's not gonna stop until people learn to ignore him when he starts a lynching.
>>47985141
If I might interject, you seem to be looking in the wrong direction.
Sounds to me like all of this is working on spiritual mechanics rather than biological, so you'd probably want to approach it from that end.
Of course I could also be completely wrong.
>>47984920
>Question for SMTAnon
Please answer this.
>>47984993
>That's about right, I suppose
Gonna have to call shenanigans here. Not really your place to invalidate other Jumps Learning Perks paid for with CP. If you want to say it takes 40 years in the desert to fully train each 1000 CP race, that is fair. To say that other perks that explicitly help you learn/train faster is not.
(PS, what spells/abilities can the 1,000 races do? Unsure why fiend is worth so much. Can it do Death Note style, write you dead from the comfort of it's living room or something? Right now it seems like it is a whole lot easier and more convenient to just shoot them.)
>>47985121
What's your point? If using Evo works on changing the powers then the powers must be linked to the physiology, meaning you should be able to use any number of things on it.
Don't respond to troll posts
>>47985137
Yeah, but you need to recognize how shit some if not most of the girls are though
>>47985031
I just sent a bunch fyndfire at the White Walkers and then settled down to get as drunk as possible for the next decade.
>>47985170
Explain why they are shit.
>>47985102
>Also, thanks!
Just making sure you've got the back-up! I know I went through a bunch of stuff to double check things.
If you feel like making it worse, Magical Body from Elona, and Bloody Magical from Legend of Spyro will make your biology magical as fuuuuuuuuck. Or if you feel like installing magitech/alchemical refiners as cybernetics, grab various perks, take 'Cybernetics' from Alpha Centauri, then 'Magitek Mastery' from FF6.
Become the magic furnace, anon.
>>47985161
Oh my god you're so dumb. So so so dumb. Why does no one else in this thread realise how Evo works.
Or. Maybe evolution energy doesn't work on the worms at all.
>>47985188
I thought the question was about how SMT works?
>>47985170
Unfortunately the trolls keep trying to shut down any further questions on how Evo works no matter who they're from. It's a shame that they just put down anyone that's even remotely close to their original target.
>>47985161
And yet Geneforge, which works on magical things, apparently does not do what Evo, which doesn't work on magical things, can.
>>47985218
Hey, here's his strategy where he pretends like he's not a troll but everyone calling him out is. It's so cute when he tries that, like he can't ignore anyone insinuating anything bad about his lynching rants.
>>47985213
But that would mean SMTanon really is just making things up without actually knowing how things work. Like the oh so awful 'shitposter' said he was.
>>47985218
Yeah, no, don't try to pretend that you aren't the only one shitposting here. No one's falling for it.
>>47985218
>line
And just like that I can't even tell what this argument is about anymore.
>>47985258
The anon you are quoting is a shitposter who targets our jumpmakers to try and drive them off. He's targeting SMTAnon currently.
>>47984920
Sorry for missing this.
You... don't really have a level. It's not a tangible in-universe thing, it's an abstraction.
Eh, I guess. I won't stop you if you spend your first few milleniums in Civ learning how to make Candles. Just keep in mind that, while you might be able to transfer those same principles over to other systems, there's no guarantee you can make Candles for anything more than your SMT1!Demon powers.
>>47985165
...Sure, whatever, for the first and third things. Only what's listed in the jump, for the second.
>>47985246
>>47985232
I'm really just disappointed that the community has people like you two here. The internet police here to tell us who to ignore and who to listen to, with all the power invested in them by the honorable fucking nobody. But hey, they are like real life police in one way. They'll go after you even if they have no evidence just to make themselves feel good.
>>47985266
Please respond to some of the questions. Please don't listen to people telling you to ignore others. Be the better man here man.
>>47984920
I never saw the point in taking Dormant Power personally.
>>47985188
I get the evolution part but not the timing part. If we're starting at fish and finish at early man are we there for hundreds of millions of years? Or are these challenges mentioned what we need to pass to fast forward to the next era?
>>47985280
>Be the better man by letting me lynch you.
>>47985280
The better man would hide and ignore you like the shitposter you are.
>>47985280
>Anon is now attacking our boys in blue.
Anarchist.
>>47985280
Yeah no. Noble sentiment, but being the better man never quite worked in life for me, so I don't see a reason to start doing it on an Indonesian Traditional Embroidering Workplace Bulletin Board.
>>47985302
The better man wouldn't act like the goddamn shitposters you two are acting like. SMT anon is an adult, he doesn't need you two to speak for him or protect him. He can ignore things without being told and answer things if he wants. You two can also learn to ignore people you don't like and stop shitting up this place for the rest of us who have to look at you all bicker like children.
>real men don't listen to any criticism, and only listen to people who take advantage of people with poor memory
I love you guys. Never change this hypocrisy.
No wonder Red is posting freely, she knows the shitstorm's safe in the hands of witch hunts.
>>47985326
Great. So you'd rather listen to the shitposters and ignore everyone because one guy might be mean. It's nice to know we have another Megacorp hanging around, rather then someone who has some bloody dignity.
>>47985327
>Be an adult by letting me attack you.
Whatever happened in your development to get you to associate adulthood with punching bag? Was your dad henpecked?
>>47985301
It doesn't matter. There are time travel portals you need to go through or Bolbox wins in the future because you 'took too long', whatever that means. So you'll actually be there for signifigantly less than ten years probably.
>>47985350
If you had a valid opinion, it could be expressed without incoherent rage. You do not, revealing yourself to be our shitposter.
>>47985280
Nice straw man and broad generalizations you got there m8.
>>47985326
Nice guys finish last, and get a train rammed up their ass.
>>47985344
Evo, SMT, Worm, and Naruto
Don't even know why people bother coming here now. Step out of line, said line being one of a dozen, and you'll be hounded for hours by shitposters. Between that and the few actual shitposters this place is getting as bad as it was in the early days.
All this shit is doing is really just kicking up anti-Bestowment sentiment, meaning any build who fucking takes it gets shat on by a bunch of pigeons.
Girls, girls, you're all pretty.
Can we talk about something else now?
Alright, I want to start one of these, so throw in your choices for Jumps, and I'll try to write. The Jumper is a blank slate. http://pastebin.com/Tc1GvF5h
>>47985380
Literally resorting to the textbook, 'man, look at how shit this place is for dumping on me for shitposting'.
>>47985389
Evo, SMT, Worm, and Naruto
>>47985386But I'm the most pretty.
>>47985327
>Stop defending my marks!
>>47985389
Forgot the goddamn picture.
>>47985301
You have to solve the issues in an era to move on, otherwise evolution goes tits up and then the competition is over, and you've failed. As long as the whole thing isn't beyond saving you otherwise don't have a time limit.
Considering that without out of jump abilities this involves traveling through basically the entire world in each era, that's a good thing.
This is assuming you aren't bowing out of the contest and just spend a normal ten years there though.
>>47985360
Anon, I very specifically said that isn't the case. So do me a favor and stop spreading misinformation on a jump that isn't yours.
I'm going to state this loud and clear so everybody can see it, you are NOT auto-shafted in anyway by bolbox existing, and if your actions prevent his existence and the stated plot of that era is rendered invalid by your own actions than you'll just continue on to prove yourself another way. Fanwank something.
Anybody who says otherwise is full of it.
>>47985400
Eh. I've never been fond of huge asses.
>>47985360
I don't see any mention of time portals in the file, is that what happens in the actual game?
>>47985413
>Anybody who says otherwise is full of it.
But I was here when you made that ruling!
>>47985400
Pics or it didn't happen.
>>47985431
>Acquiring new target
>>47985433
You just wanna see The List again, don't you?
I have a question about the Gravitational Beam Emitter from Blame!, why does the Jailbreaker version have a delayed fire response? Killy seemed to fire his off rapidly just fine. . .
>>47985451
Well the maker's gone, so good luck with that.
>>47985451
Isn't the switchblade model the one killy uses?
>>47985451
It was a manga, so you were probably reading the pace wrong.
>>47985389
Changeling, Ravenloft, Muppet Treasure Island, and Innistrad.
>>47985476
One of these things is not like the other.
>>47985413
Thanks for the clarification
>>47985451
I'm pretty sure the Jailbreaker one is superior to the one Killy has, because that says it's basic output is what a normal GBE is at full strength. So it has a delayed firing response because its simply that powerful.
>>47985486
Time delays allow dodging.
>>47985420
>mfwSome people like small butts, some people like shapely butts. Nothing wrong with that.
>>47985433
There is no picture that can properly convey it. But if you want, I can provide the List like >>47985449 said.
>captcha says to select trees
>wants a bicycle
Come on, google.
>>47985498
My captcha thought a bicycle was a street sign.
>>47985469
He is shown firing multiple shot in the same frame. . .
>>47985431
Not taking the transportation to another Era is literally just bowing out of the competition anon. It's an auto-failure in that you're basically just choosing to go home.
I apologize, because awhile back there was a saltstorm over some people getting it into their heads that Bolbox and weird time travel stuff meant everybody was auto-screwed, and used a ruling I made that while people had plenty of time for side adventures and neat projects wasting excessive amounts of time would result in you failing due to the nature of the thing.
Sort of knee-jerk on my part anon, sorry about that. That's my bad, mistook you for pushing the same thing and when rereading your post you weren't.
Just to be clear, all odds point to it being a lot longer than ten years unless you have the perks and powers to cover ground and deal with those issues really fast.
So is there a list of all the card games in the Chain?
I'm going to minmax Card Magic and you can't stop me.
Jump 70: Primal Rage
>The Hermit (Personal experience and thoughtful temperance.)
>Location: Stonehenge (The Tomb)
>Alignment: Neutral
>Mystical Origin (950)
You know what's made its mark on history? Skeletons. I am now a thirty foot tall skeleton.
>Magical Aura (850, Neutral)
Well, let's just tell it telekinesis. Ranged attacks and telekinetic blocking within the local setting is useful.
>Serpentine Swift (750)
I am now a forty-five foot tall skeleton.
>Consume The Weak (Free)
...I'd rather not.
>Hear Our Cries (Free)
Not my first rodeo, but you people had better get to praying.
>Inspire (Free, Neutral)
Well, I'm sure the surviving remains of humanity will appreciate being inspired to invent and NOT just sit around being stone age idiots.
>Harmony (650, Neutral)
>Hallow Lands (450)
I imagine that combining those two perks means that any land under my control keeps a balanced cycle, but makes spring and summer all the better, compared to how it might even be. Plus everyone's healthy! Everyone wins.
>Treasure Hoard (250, Neutral)
And I'll be filling this room with gold, jewels, and other random trinkets... wonder if it works for magical power received through worshippers a la Master of Magic, as well?
>Livestock (50)
Eh. Why not. Horses?
So it's simple. We kill the destructive gods. We offer to let the virtuous ones live as long as they aren't pretending to be gods, because let's face it, none of us are actually deities. Let humanity rebuild, call it a day. How hard is that?
(Surprisingly, the dice say they took that deal in favor of not being made dead like the others.)
>>47985449
A list ain't no pic.
>>47985498
>>47985498
>There is no picture
>no picture
>no pics
DIDN'T HAPPEN REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>47985498
Red, can you do Ninjanon a favor and upload >>47985038
>>47985464
>>47985486
The jailbreaker one is the one that can be charged up with your own energy which Killy does on multiple occasions.
>>47985516
Yugioh, Card Fight Vanguard, Innistrad now but there are no cards in that setting itself.
>>47985513
So you're essentially pulling what SMTAnon's doing right now.
>>47985486
Thats why the item says it has an advisory to only use it in extreme circumstances. Of course a Jumper won't abude by this, so you have to make sure you hit your target, though if you picked up decent marksmanship perks this should be a non-issue and a guaranteed destruction of whatever you hit.
What can Overlord magic actually do on the higher end?
>>47985516
Cardfight!! Vanguard from take a fucking guess, Duel Monsters from Yu-Gi-Oh!, hilariously M:tG from any modern setting, and the Deck of Cards from Kingdom Hearts. I've already touted its use for Card Magic, though it relies on you having a rich history for your auto-updating deck to draw from.
>>47985532
No anon, he's actually answering people and not just following the shit posters line. He's doing the good thing.
>>47985541
Equivalent to D&D magic is the general consensus
>>47985326
>Yeah no. Noble sentiment, but being the better man never quite worked in life for me, so I don't see a reason to start doing it on an Indonesian Traditional Embroidering Workplace Bulletin Board.
I'm sorry if it seemed like I was shitposting you, I like you Jump, and just wanted to know how stuff works. I do not know if you can learn spells in game, for example. Do you need the 400CP soldier perk or a race that has those spells innate to learn the 4 buff and 4 debuff spells for example?
For the fiend, it just seemed broken (as it does not work) if you needed to be in the presence of the guy you wanted dead, and have him just stand there while you wrote his eulogy or sung his Queen Ballad Length Death Song, for example. That us why I was asking he they needed to be present for the Fiend abilities to work.
>>47985572
Don't bother. His lord and masters have commanded him to not answer so he won't, no matter how politely you ask your question. Several posts that were polite and not part of the argument were ignored, doubt you have any chance.
>>47985546
>>47985532
>Responding to yourself.
>>47985517
Can I call you Mr. Bones?
>>47985476
Added.
>>47985588
Fabulous thing is I can accuse you of continuing that samefagging train.
>>47985541
Auto-kill a battlefield.
>>47985601
I call him Mr No-Nose actually
>>47985601
Call Tommy by his name
>>47985546
Yeah no, he's going back and forth over a previous ruling he's made. He's pulling the same bullshit.
>Shitposter so mad he keeps replying to himself to find SOMEONE to lynch
Hilarious.
>>47985628
Meh. At least he's actually answering. That's still at least one point above smt.
>>47985541
Ainz used a few thousand enemy soldiers as sacrifices to summon monsters that killed the rest of them. They were in full formation and then just fell over dead when he cast the spell.
>>47985616
Didn't you know anon?
We're all the same person.
>>47985640
You love this trick too.
>Shit I got called out.
>Better start muh anon is legion posting
>>47985572
Certain player characters can learn spells in-game, but they're part of a predetermined list, which means you will only have what you've purchased. Since purchases ALREADY give you the spells, there is no reason to learn them in-jump. If you don't buy anything, then you simply lack the potential, as the main character does.
Except for the Modern Magician's one. While you can learn that one in-jump if you try hard enough, you won't have Benefactor fiat to keep it.
As for the Fiend question, please look back through the reply chain. I'm sorry if it seemed like I was being sarcastic, it's my fault for letting my exasperation seep through, but those were supposed to be serious answers.
>>47985541
Ainz demonstrates time stop powers and instant death spells that can't be resurrected from, and super tier magic can kill 10s of thousands of people just as a sacrifice to summon the kin of elder gods. It's basically DnD except powered by mana, greater variety of spells can be at your disposal at once, there are greater variety of spells available, and a fuck load of those spells are way stronger then you'd expect of the same tier equivalent in DnD.
>>47985651
What are you even on about, son.
>>47985660
So are you going to respond to the other questions or should they just get fucked because they happened to get posted in the midst of an argument?
>>47985389
Doom_2016, Blame!, Bastion, Animorphs. Take your pick.
>>47985672
Sounds like someone needs a hug.
>>47985640
No! That's impossible! You're not me!
>>47985692
That'd be lovely.
>>47985672
>pls respond
Man, I want a fucking KoF jump.
>>47985601
As long as you know that the ride never ends.
I need to get a top hat.
>>47985694
You... You're right! I'M NOT YOU!
>explodes into stupid disco-gecko form.
I AM THE SHADOW... THE TRUE SELF.
Now out of my way!
>>47985688
Added Bastion.
>>47985694
>>47985711
>You're not me!
>>47985707
I want a King of Fighters jump, just because that setting seems to have a boundless supply of Best Girls.
>>47985069
If I were take MC-Kun and Bloodlust with Best Dynasty Ever from Song of Ice and Fire, and transfer a few strong luck perks to Naruto and Sasuke, how would I do?
Especially since Naruto and Sasuke still have the equivalent of the Naruto plot armor perk. Assuming I was also a Lumen Sage with one hundred years of training and took Senju, Plot Armor, Wood Release , Earth and Water, Ninjutsu+Taijutsu Specializiation, Genius of Hard Work, You Have Reserves and Fine Control with the choice points?
Are there any good perks that would let you reverse engineer something that is too dangerous to take apart? I want to let my companion with the Reverse Engineer power from Worm "play" with my GBE but I don't thing opening the damned thing would end well. . .
>>47985757
Shut the fuck up about Naruto.
>>47985707
Rule 1
>>47985711
>>47985725
I'll go grab the crowbar while MC-Kun swings a fucking golf club around like an idjit.
>>47985768
Why? We talk about Worm and Fate/ fucking constantly.
>>47985768
Make me.
>>47985760
None come to mind. Maybe try stacking reverse engineering perks until non-invasive methods give you enough info to reverse engineer the thing?
Worm_Anon
Wound it be fair to use the "gain a new companion" perk to gain/fix canon characters powers by fanwank?
My Idea was to offer Uber, L33t, and Accord positions since they have powers near identical to ones you offer.
Leet would become a Rouge, and Jumpchan would put him in a fugue where he downloads a bunch of his shards knowledge onto a computer instead of getting screwed over, (spending 300 CP on Tinker-tech Cache) and his power now lets him understand the tinker-tech info dump he just stole form his shard. (becoming reverse engineering)
Uber would become a rouge, the skills he temporarily learn are now permanent (becoming Enhanced Memory) and he can even use it on others in his employ (300 CP on Best in the Business Perk)
Both get the free Business and are now legal and profitable (Jumpchan &/or myself fixes their image legal troubles as a one time boon)
Accord is still a Villain and has the same power (Compounded Computation) but Jumpchan has a word with his shard so it no longer makes him crazy, and he gets vials from her now as signing bonus (300 CP on Cauldron Vials) and no longer needs to but them from Cauldron.
Is that within the realm of fanwank, or to far outside the rules?
Also, for those who do not want to invent their own powers, would using "Give it a Boost" 600 CP perk from Unholy Heights (Boosts an item double in good effects in every applicable area, and halved in bad effect in every area) on Cauldron Vials make them as powerful as the powers listed there? So it could give powers from those lists...
>>47985760
Maybe Psychometry from GUNNM? It's a psychic means of analysing objects so your companion wouldn't necessarily have to disassemble the GBE to study it. I'm probably misremembering but I vaguely recall Aquaria had a similar perk too, and it's conceivable some application of ArTon's Song Science could do something similar. Adventure Time also has a perk for building cartoon physics-tier analysis technology.
>>47984934
...I personally couldn't care less about 1000 CP tribrids. Tribrids are gross.
I just wanted to be an angelic smoothie poured into a divine Evangelion.
But damn, comments like this really take the fun out of it and make me seriously consider going full Law-Abiding Citizen instead.
>>47985811
Joke's on you, golf club is the better weapon.
BecauseIt's still symbolic~
>>47985857
>Also, for those who do not want to invent their own powers, would using "Give it a Boost" 600 CP perk from Unholy Heights (Boosts an item double in good effects in every applicable area, and halved in bad effect in every area) on Cauldron Vials make them as powerful as the powers listed there? So it could give powers from those lists...
Sounds like how it works.
>>47985760
learn Structural Analysis in type moon. Get good at it. Then use conventional Reverse engineering perks. Though this works best on machines.
>>47985926
>But damn, comments like this really take the fun out of it and make me seriously consider going full Law-Abiding Citizen instead.
Tell me about it.
I went Demon for that perk, didn't even touch the races, and I'm wanting to swap out because fuck this thread's noise, they're going to start tearing apart people who have the perk after they're done with the jumpmaker.
How many reverse engineering powers/perks do we have anyway?
I know about the ones in Worm, F.E.A.R., and Megas XLR, but do we have any others besides those?
>>47985926
>>47985959
Did you miss how everyone was mocking the one guy who was trying to lynch him? Come on, don't blame us when most people were actively against that attitude.
>>47985986
Sekeirei and Xcom
>>47985986
There are also reverse engineering perks in Xcom and Fallout.
>>47985986
Touhou has one
>>47985986
Retro Engineer (MCU), Certified Tech (Fallout), Upgraded Make it Work (Gundamn AD), and Technological Expert (Blame!) should help.
>>47985989
I love how everyone can absolve their self-engrossing attitudes by shoving all the blame on one guy. Assuming its one guy and not you trying to justify thread's ridiculous attitude.
The people who overexaggerate Bestowment are just as bad as its detractors. Everyone is to blame.
>>47985989
...what are you even talking about.
I don't know who you are, man.
I'm not entirely sure how you could have construed that post as blaming /everyone/ at large.
I was specifically blaming that one dickbutt.
You know.
The one who made the comment? The one whose post I replied to?
>>47985959
I mean, it's not like Law-Abiding Citizen is a bad option you know? Plenty of good smiting times to be had. I just, I dunno-maybe I would've gone Citizen if SMT came out before Devil Survivors, I just think as of my current jump order being an angel fits the whole Bel-Marduk-and-Abel-reincarnated-as-the-savior-of-mankind thing what with being related to Metatron as well, you know?
>didn't even touch the races
Hmm, you mean like-any races at all? I kinda like the concept of "Jumper" suddenly being a new variety of SMT demon even if it didn't really come with any special powers right off the bat.
>>47986052
>It's his strategy where he tries to blame other's for his actions
I need to make a playbook for you/
>>47986003
>>47986013
>>47986016
>>47986017
Thanks y'all.
Look out Multiverse, all your tech are belong to me.
>>47985038
>Would someone mind putting this up on the drive for me?
NOPE. Some dumbass changed No Chakra Coils (+600 CP):into Mook (+600 CP)
where they have no in jump powers OR out of jump powers for no reason at all. What is the point of the disadvantage, anyway.
Be a ninja with out of Jump powers only is a worthy challenge.
Only in jump power is also a challenge.
This is just you trying to make the supplement a joke.
This is just some moron masturbating over the internet. Go be derpy somewhere else, asshole.
>>47986158
>Be a ninja with out of Jump powers only is a worthy challenge.
Holy shit no it isn't. Since when is having all of your other powers and just not the ones in jump a 600cp worthy drawback? Get fucked you blithering moron.
>>47986158
>>47986173
>I don't like that a drawback is too hard.
Pff, really? You're gonna whine about that now?
>>47986158
Most jumps only offer 300cp to have all out of jump powers sealed. how exactly are you justifying having a 600cp drawback to only lose what you buy in setting being worth that much?
>>47986187
Actually read my post (>>47986173) you utter retard. I'm saying he's stupid for wanting it to only be in jump powers taken for 600cp.
>>47986191
To be fair, nerfing it after a fucking year of it being done was kind of shitty. The jump didn't need to be touched at all.
>>47986203
That was a misclick, sorry little anon.
>>47986215
That's a poor defense of yourself.
>>47986215
To be fair, the only people who'd want to keep it unchanged are the people who took advantage of such an obvious flaw and didn't speak up about it being unbalanced.
>>47986226
I'm a different guy you dickweed.
>>47986234
How would anyone know? You're anonymous.
>>47986229
This to be honest. Not owning up and accepting quality control is what separates us from the likes of SB after all.
>>47985959
>>47985926
>>47986056
...sadly enough I've felt this way about taking perks sometimes.
Something looks neat, then you find out oh look, there is a colossal fucking shitstorm surrounding it, or maybe the option's being hyped to oblivion and back, and the sheer drama/hype behind it just... turns me away from it. Like it doesn't feel right to go with it because it will cause complaining, or someone will go "Well [x] took the perk so it's okay" or some kind of drama shit will happen and you just want to avoid it.
A non-SMT example (because it's just not going to matter) would be half-Kryptonian from YJ. Solar-powered, a fair strength buff, but more the idea of being closer to Superman. He's a nice ideal, you know? But all the hype and the arguments around it just turned me away from it. It didn't feel right. Why get involved in that? Why pick options that get people judging you or scorning you like you picked up Death Perception from Tsukihime?
>>47986158
You know that was Ninjanon as shown in >>47985059, right? So the only changes were the ones the jumpmaker made.
So what two weapons did y'all combine for RWBY?
SMT and WormAnon shut him down, so he goes back to Naruto shitposting? I guess that's an improvement.
>>47986243
*owning up and accepting
Wow. Worst typo ever.
>>47986239
We are all anonymous.
>>47986255
Please go away.
>>47986229
An 'obvious flaw', really? Are you seriously acting like the difficulty of drawbacks is objective per cp it awards you across jumps? If it was so obviously fucking unbalanced, why did literally no one start complaining about until it was changed a few days ago?
>>47986173
>>47986191
>>47986203
Because no powers at all in Naruto is just stupid grimderp dumb. No Out of jump powers is +300 min, in a less insane setting.
Mook is the equivalent of Malformed Chackra Coils (restricted in jump powers) +300 CP PLUS No Out of Jump powers +300 CP EXCEPT IT TAKES AWAY ALL OF YOUR POWERS FOR NO ADDITIONAL CP AT ALL.
Who ever thought it up was a ignorant dumb ass, because it is worse than malformed chakra coils and no put of jump powers.
And drawbacks are supposed to be thematic to the Jump. Faced it, whoever made the drawback went full retard.
You are never supposed to go full retard. And he did. He deserves all the scorn he gets.
>>47986255
If nothing else I can appreciate that he's learning. When he just spammed redhate he was easy to spot. He's still easy, mind you, his vitriol always shows its hand, but at least it takes a minute or two now.
Good for him to learn how to duck bans.
>>47986260
Then no one should get to whine about mistaken identities, now do they?
>>47986254
I combined my Boom Hammer from Bloodborne with a flamethrower and gave it both of the Dust related enhancements. I set many things on fire during my stay.
>>47986264
Alright. I wanna hear your explanation for why having every single thing you got in the chain besides the 1-2000cp of stuff you can get in Naruto is worth 600cp. Keep in mind, that's more CP then the any of the other drawbacks, so it has to be harder.
>>47986247
Wait, there was some guff about half-Kryptonian? I thought all the fuss was about getting Kryptonian DNA from DC or something. Admittedly I wasn't really paying attention but then again I've never seen the appeal behind Kryptonians personally.
Well, apart from DCAU's Galatea being way more interesting as a character than what little I know about Power Girl.
And...huh. I just remembered Crisis on Infinite Earth's Superwoman is apparently supposed to be Mary Marvel, /not/ a Kryptonian. Odd, that.
>>47986254
I combined the chair leg of truth with a box of LEGOs.
I didn't even use the weapon import, I just picked out a chair leg as my RWBY weapon, learned how to make transforming weapons in the jump and built one myself.
Its' super mode is a folding chair that can shoot Dust-empowered LEGOs.
>>47986281
>Who ever thought it up was a ignorant dumb ass, because it is worse than malformed chakra coils and no put of jump powers.
When you build a Perk/Drawback, you should make it so someone will actually take it. A drawback that takes away all your powers, in and out of jump is so bad I do not see anyone actually taking it. That is why it is bad. It is two drawbacks in one, with but worse that both, for no gain. And do, I never took it. You go to Naruto for the powers, after all.
>>47986254
I bought two extra alt-forms and imported Pandora's Box, Goln Nova, Nihil Forma, And my Demon Weapon partner.
>>47986327
Not him but I only see that logic working for perks. If you WANT to take a drawback without any risk attached it's probably a sign the drawback's a bit too trivial. I mean, unless you really believe every jump should offer you 600 extra CP for free without any consequences?
>>47986325
>Well, apart from DCAU's Galatea being way more interesting as a character than what little I know about Power Girl.
Shit talking Peeg, even when doing it to talk up another version of Peeg, is heresy.
Oh, the miraculous healing fruit is actually a thing in Dark Sun, and I do experiment with it to increase it's potency. I have a lot of magical botany perks, because I like plants.
>>47986299
Because now you'd have to be literally retarded to take that drawback. It's vastly worse than taking Pinprick Reserves, Out of Control, and Malformed Chakra Coils and yet gives you less cp. It would have been better to change the drawback so that you lose all of your out of setting abilities and keep everything you buy in Naruto, especially since the jump is conspicuously lacking in a drawback like that.
>>47986255
His mercurial nature is a curse on us.
>>47986401
Wait, it isn't just sealing out of setting powers? Must have misread it, I take back my support of it then, sealing both at once is suicidal.
>>47986376
Eh? Miraculous healing fruit?
Personally I prefer the apples of Idunn from Viking Saga and Age of Mythology. They're the things that help the Norse gods maintain their immortality and divinity, after all.
Which means they probably make for some delicious apple cider, apple pie, apple crumble, fruit salad and whatever other apple-related recipes there are out there which I'm too thirsty to think about right now because goddamn it's hot here and I really need some apple juice.
>>47986351
Power Girl is just a dumb bimbo slut like girl Hulk goddamn why can't I remember her name right now.
>>47986376
There were some questions earlier for you about the Disney Princess jump.
>>47986422
Red or Green she hulk?
>>47986430
Green. I don't know anything about the red one.
>>47986422
She-Hulk?
>>47986255
Can someone please upload it to the drive already to show him that he doesn't have any power?
>>47986432
Jennifer Walters that's her name.
Would it be safe to assume that the power of the spell cast with Final Casting from Maoyuu would scale with how much mana you have?
Are there any perks that make people overlook how fucking weird you probably are?
>>47986439
>making such a naked attempt to appeal to the thread's spite
pathetic
>>47986451
literally thousands
>>47986439
Total pleb here, how do I put the PDF onto the upload jumps here folder? I clicked into the folder, what do I do next?
>>47986483
I think you need to open it in your drive them upload the PDF from there?
>>47985038
Eh…
This new 'Mook' drawback?
If I'm reading it right, it essentially takes you down to Body Mod, yes?
And it appears to be based on the previous 500 cp drawback that just made impossible to do ninja stuff.
That rings kind of wonky to me.
I don't want to agree with the yelling guy, and I don't want to sound like one of those folks who yell 'if something is stronger than you it will 100% try and succeed in killing you', but I honestly don't think losing all previous powers from every jump you've been to for an extra 100 cp is fair.
Unless you were completely unsatisfied with how much cp the original drawback gave and your just trying to correct what you percieve to be a grave mistake.
If I may propose a compromise, I'd like to suggest splitting the drawback in half: one drawback that seals in-jump powers, and one that seals out-of-jump powers.
I personally feel that that would be much fairer and offer greater freedom of choice.
And you could still include and a combined version of it, maybe, for those who are brave/crazy.
It's been uploaded.
>>47986497
>one drawback that seals in-jump powers
You mean a drawback that's worthless? Let me swagger in with my 600 jump build and just completely invalidate the drawback. It's fine to do that without drawbacks, but those are still supposed to hurt you know.
>>47986499
Thanks.
>>47986254
Cello Bow....I love it.
Bought two alts, two electo whips that when connected together turns into a Tesla Staff that fires lightning.
I made a lot of jokes and puns about lightning in this jump.
>Me:"I guess he was 'shocked' to see us."
>Team: "Ugh, shut up!"
>>47986499
Thanks bud. 10 minutes here and I'm unsure how to navigate out of my own account.
>>47986505
Jumps aren't supposed to be balanced in the occurrence of specific builds, anon.
That way lies chaos.
It was just a suggestion anyway, no need to get snippy.
One that seals out-of-jump powers could just as easily be gamed by taking Naruto as your first or second jump, so I don't know what your point is anyway.
Unless you're saying that drawbacks that block powers shouldn't be a thing.
Weren't there some people working on some DCAU jumps based on some of the different shows? How is that going?
>>47986537
Drawbacks are meant to hurt you no matter how many jumps you have. That's their nature. Trying to make a drawback that means nothing to a long term jump, literally nothing at all, free points, is against how they are intended to be.
>>47986254
Made my Armed Device into shotgun gauntlets and roller-blades that transformed from a set of dogtags. Added codecasting, dust chambers, and aura channelling to it to make me basically a muscle wizard in RWBY.
Gave the Devil Arm Gilgamesh to Akitsu, which became slicey boots and stabby gauntlets with Dust Chambers. Also gave 'em an alternate form in anklets and bracelets.
Pandora went to Kirishima, and well...picture a glasses case transforming into a suitcase which then transformed into all the guns, shurikens, bows, and crossbows. With dust chambers.
Then Kurumu got Lucifer, and when your backpack can grow wings that give explodey swords depending on which dust rounds you load there's only one thing to do. Puns. Spanish puns. Spanish flamenco love making puns. I still don't know how she got an actual spanish guitar track to follow her whenever she deployed it. Or how she always ended up with a rose in her mouth. All I know is that I had to stop her and Neptune from being bad influences on RWBY or Yang would happen to me.
>>47986544
Not how it really is. There are plenty of drawbacks that can be completely nulled by certain builds. What does a drawback that makes you act evil (Like Dancing Mad in FF6) matter if you're already a horrible person? What does the cannibalism drawback in Vampire Bloodlines matter if you already eat people?
>>47986505
As it stands now though its way to fucking hard, especially compared to other drawbacks in the jump. Sealing off both your in jump and out of jump powers for only 600 cp only means that people are never going to take it, especially since the drawback can't be taken with a few others.
>>47986542
Haven't heard anything for the last month. I think Young Justice Anon was working on Earth's Mightiest Heroes and Spyro was working on...another Marvel-related IP? I don't think they've gotten further than some pastebin notes though.
>>47986542
Pretty sure Spyro's working on a Justice League (cartoon) jump.
>>47986544
I'll admit that your argument has some modicum of merit, but you completely ignored the second half of my statement.
I think then, that the obvious solution is to get rid of any drawbacks that block powers in any way, that way both early and late game Jumpers can't game the system and get free cp.
>>47986561
And those drawbacks tend to offer fairly low boons. Neither grants 600 CP, though.
>>47986569
That is Marvel, not DC. . .
>>47986578
Thank you.
>>47986418
I snag pretty much every fruit I can find at this point, but I'm a bit drunk and my brain is fried at the moment. I probably have a lot of different healing fruit, and more than likely just have a plant that uses the fire crystals from Thief to grow a silicate bubble and surrounds it with slightly unstable fire crystals, fills the bubble with water and several varieties of healing herbs and poison or disease cures, and more or less just makes potions. Because it's weird what you can do with enough genetics perks and grow weird magical plant perks.
>>47986423
Thank you very much. I tend to scroll through shitstorms around day 3 or 4 of them happening consistently.
>>47983834
My original intention was probably just anything that could be defined as Disney Princess type things, and also Anastasia because someone requested it and no one cared enough to complain. But I said it wrong and didn't notice until it was too late. A reasonable limitation is that it has to have been produced by Disney and not Pixar or Ghibli though. That jump is a trainwreck, really. I mean, I love it, but there's so many gaping holes I feel like I accidentally made a generic trypophobia jump.
>>47986558
>bad influences on RWBY
...for goodness'...Ruby, I meant Ruby!
>>47986581
What does the price matter? What a drawback involves and what it rewards can vary wildly from jump to jump. What might give you 100cp in one jump might give you 300 in another one. This is especially common in earlier jumps when it all tended to be just 100/200/300 drawbacks. It doesn't change the fact that you're argument, that all drawbacks must always be bad no matter the jumper, is baseless and has been for years.
>>47986587
Does the Disney Princess jump mean that there can't be individual jumps for the Disney princess movies?
>>47986562
There are plenty of drawbacks like this all over the place. You not liking it is not grounds for blocking. That's end of story. All this fuss is not beneficial and is meaningless.
Reminder that IRC needs to be purged.
>>47986613
I never intended as such, and have tried to encourage people to make jumps for them in the past to no avail.
>>47986597
Okay first off, I wasn't the guy you were debating.
Secondly,
>all drawbacks must always be bad no matter the jumper
I don't understand why this isn't a valid stance to take. The whole point of drawbacks is they GIVE YOU POINTS in exchange for a DETRIMENT to you. I don't see anything wrong with PROPORTIONALLY GENEROUS drawbacks being balls-hard.
Unless you're seriously trying to extend the proposition of "vary wildly from jump to jump" to be able to encompass the conclusion that "getting free extra points for no meaningful cost to yourself is good jump design"
>>47986623
If you're serious, reminder that you need to be purged
If you're not, reminder that sarcasm needs to be purged. Literally more shit than everyone's waifus combined.
>>47986401
>Because now you'd have to be literally retarded to take that drawback. It's vastly worse than taking Pinprick Reserves, Out of Control, and Malformed Chakra Coils and yet gives you less cp. It would have been better to change the drawback so that you lose all of your out of setting abilities and keep everything you buy in Naruto, especially since the jump is conspicuously lacking in a drawback like that.
To try to be constructive, and make the drawback better, first stop using no out of jump powers, because it is lazy. I do not like it because not all perks are powers, some are knowledge, and others are things like personality and willpower, and casually stripping them away really breaks my suspension of disbelief.
If he really wanted to fix this power, he would have started back at 'Malformed Chakra Coils,' because that is a good power.
Now, rename it "One Release Wonder" or something. Where it limits you to a subset of Chakra abilities.
Rocks of "Internal Chakra manipulations only" is the old advantage. but you could do "Fuinjutsu Idiot Savant," where you cannot manipulate chakra fast enough for combat and need to seal it to use it later, or "Naruto?, I thought this was A:TLE!," where you can do anything, but everything has to use one chosen element.
Or something similar. (But I would still everyone access to Basic Ninja Training and chakra enhancement, the stuff every ninja needs to be able to do...)
And then for double points this applies to your out of jump supernatural powers. So if you were Lightning release only, you could use Conduit Electrokinesis powers, but not you mind control powers, or Mr. Fantastic Stretchy powers.
That is a better designed Drawback than one that just says No Powers for You! And yeah, once if has been part of the jumpchain for a year, changing it needs a LOT more thought then just a kneejerk reaction,
Have Dick and Head, the guys that made Counterstrike, made any other jumps? I was reading it through and liked their style.
>>47986646
They made the Rust jump i think.
>>47986633
So what do you suggest are drawbacks that are always bad? Out of jump power sealers aren't bad if that's an early jump, in jump seals aren't bad if it's late, memory removal drawbacks can be worked around and so on. I'm sure someone will always find a way to make a drawback free points or at least not as bad as it normally is with 600+ jumps to pick from. The only thing I can think of would be cutting of all out of jump and in jump things, as well as erasing your memory, blocking access to the warehouse and any items or companions. But at that point you might as well just make a standalone CYOA.
I'd rather have original, unique and interesting drawbacks then ones that are the same list of generic, approved drawbacks to ensure everyone suffers no matter what.
>>47986639
I disagree a sarcastic waifu is the worst of all.
>>47986627
That's too bad. . .
>>47986640
Your suggestion just comes across as far too confusing and complicated, just as bad as what it is but in a different direction.
>>47986654
That is correct, and thank you for pointing me towards it.
>>47986633
Not that anon, but under no circumstances would I ever take a drawback that takes away absolutely everything but Body Mod for a paltry 600 cp.
I'm almost positive no one else will take it either, ergo it is superfluous and useless.
It should either have an increase in price, lessened in severity somehow, or be removed.
But that's just my opinion.
>>47986678
I know, right. I feel at least partially responsible, too. Well, maybe someone will see this and decide to do something with the information.
>>47986696
You do know that you still have your purchases in the jump that don't rely on ninja magic, and that not everything you buy in it is related to ninja wizardry, right?
>>47986537
>Unless you're saying that drawbacks that block powers shouldn't be a thing.
Drawbacks that include "Reduced to your Body mod and no warehouse" as part of them should not be a thing because they have no thought put in them, and are not very thematic to the jump.
Better to limit / constrain your powers in some thematic way related to the jump rather then just fiat them away together. Take Innistrad, all the shadow drawbacks took away all your perks and warehouse, for no reason at all. That was a bad design.
More thematic would have been if your Out of Jump supernatural powers were now fueled by Lands like the rest of the setting.
Or if you could only use powers that fit one of the 5 MTG color themes.
Or since there are other Vampire/Angel/Demon options in other jumps, you could only use Angel powers, or Demon powers, or vampire powers from out of Jump.
All are more interesting, thematic, and thus better.
>>47986742
>More thematic would have been if your Out of Jump supernatural powers were now fueled by Lands like the rest of the setting.
So requiring you to buy specific things from the jump, meaning you lose what cp you get from the drawback?
>Second and third points
So varying degrees of favouring certain builds then? Encouraging people to build in a certain way and get rewarded for it or not and be disadvantaged because of it.
Yeah, I agree that it might not be creative to just go "no out of jump powers" but there's a reason for it.
>>47986646
They're working on an Overwatch jump, waiting for more lore
>>47986683
It is a drawback people might actually take. It is better than Mook, which gives 1000 CP of drawback in a 600 CP package.
What is YOUR solution, or are you just wanting to bitch?
>>47980006
Alright, Jumpchain, was the War of the Planets jump advertised the the end of the Lost Valley of the Dinosaurs jump actually going to be a thing, or should I stop hoping?
>>47986766
In your opinion and not saying I have a different one. I'm giving critique that your solution is far too complicated. Maybe try taking that into account given it's the one response you've gotten instead of insulting me.
>>47986769
We don't know.
>>47986716
One can hope. . . A Mulan or Aladdin jump would be fun and making miss freeze her whole country face justice would be interesting.
>>47986741
There's only like six things that I can see that don't directly relate to ninja magic.
There's the Orphan, Civilian, and Drop-In 400 cp perks, and the capstones for the same three origins.
There's also Taijutsu, but that at least partially relies on ninja magic too.
Everything else is exclusively ninja magic.
But you do have a point, I guess, though it's mighty weak.
>>47986247
So this is a bit hypocritical for me to say but... people really care too much what others think of them on this stuff. I thought the point was to have fun, make your own adventures and find your own neat tricks (and steal other peoples neat tricks because I... I mean a metaphorical you lack any talent what so ever so you have to rip everyone else off) anyways I think we might be taking things a tad to serious.
On a personal not I took Half-Kryponian, I took FISS 5, and I am proud of it. Red, take what you want it's your journey have fun with it.
Jump 71: Gravity Falls
>Nine of Cups (Achieving what you always thought you wanted.)
>Location: The Man Cave
I suspect I'll be welcome here as long as I bring tribute in the form of six-packs of bee- soda. Yeah. Soda. Kid's show, after all!
>Identity: Journal Entry (-200)
>Drawbacks: Journal Page (+300)
Well, it is only fitting.
>Awesome Opening Sequence (1000)
I love documenting my jumps this way. Makes things interesting.
>Can't Con A Con-Man (600)
Very handy, to know the instant someone's trying to pull one over on me. Might be able to slip under the radar of knowing if they're telling the truth if they use other means... but won't slip past this.
>Journalist (0)
I'm going to use this power to document anything and everything that I invent. A two page summary for literally anything? Very yes. Granted, if I make a manual, it'll still probably be more detailed, but a two-minute guide is crucial.
>Height (50/400)
I am now a sixty foot tall skeleton.
>Flight (100/400)
...I am now a sixty foot tall FLYING skeleton.
>Dream Demon (400/400)
...I am now the sixty foot tall flying skeleton IN YOUR HEAD.
Entry #1:
Giant human skeleton. Five stories tall, has glowing eyes that constantly shift color. Able to shrink down to human size, surprisingly friendly. Willing to trade food for favors, especially pizza. Jokingly reffered to himself as Mr. Bones.Not a man. Skeleton man? Where does the food go when he eats it?
Journal #2 entry:
Has shown up in my dreams. I assumed I was just dreaming until I met him in the woods and he resumed a conversation that I had only dreamed we had. Insightful about problems, even if he is spooky.Not from this universe - from Outside. Travels between universes.
Journal #3 entry:
See also "Konasse" - claims to be the sorcerer-king of an invisible city that floats a mile above the surface of the worlds he visits. And can fly to get there and back.THE RIDE NEVER ENDS. DON'T TAKE HIS OFFER.
>>47986757
>So requiring you to buy specific things from the jump, meaning you lose what cp you get from the drawback?
You can bind lands in the setting without spending CP, Jumpmaker has said so. Buying with CP lets you have copies in warehouse, and take them with you when you go.
>>47986757
>So varying degrees of favouring certain builds then? Encouraging people to build in a certain way and get rewarded for it or not and be disadvantaged because of it.
>Yeah, I agree that it might not be creative to just go "no out of jump powers" but there's a reason for it.
The purpose of the drawback is to add a bit of difficulty, and reward those that accept them for having to overcome a challenge.
They are not so you can get off by metaphorically rape the people who take them. If you are trying to fuckover everyone who takes a drawback in the worst way possible, you are doing it very wrong.
Look at the drawbacks in the 1st jump as inspiration, and stop trying to outdo everyone else in playing "who can make the worst drawbacks"
>>47986794
Is that actually illegal though? Is there a law against using magical powers to freeze a country? That seems like a law against drinking the ocean or creating moons
Is possible to get RWBY Dust tattooed on your body? I figured a full body tattoo of several dust types would be cool.
>>47986855
Terrorism? I'm sure you could argue property damage with ease, assault maybe? Dunno if anyone died as a result but murder if so.
>>47986855
Even if it is not illegal she shouldn't have been able to just take the throne after doing something like that.
>>47986794
Don't bully Elsa. It's not her fault she fucked up as bad as she did.Let it go~
>>47986855
Reckless endangerment, property damage, probably false imprisonment of literally everyone, there are plenty of laws you could apply if you looked them up.
>>47986877
She froze the entire country causing a massive economic depression simply because she felt bad.
>>47986855
>>47986865
>>47986874
>>47986884
>>47986892
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dach1nPbsY8
She had shit tier parents, who fucked her up.
>>47986906
So do a lot of real life criminals. It doesn't mean they get a get out of jail free card.
>>47986915
Not saying she should get off scott free, anon.
Just saying she shouldn't be put to the sword for not knowing how to handle powers that people shouldn't have in the first place.
It wasn't even intentional. You could tell how horrified she was when she realized what she had done.
Maybe a little leniency is in order for this one, eh?
>>47986906
There should be a Frozen jump even just to have a drawback where real world logic takes the place of fairy tale logic resulting in her spending the rest of her life in prison, her sister taking over, and then Anna letting the country fall apart due sucking as a leader.
>>47986906
... so you're saying she dindu nuffin?
>>47986906
Rationalizations have nothing to do with the law. The real question is if there is any legal precedent for the event, and if she can be held accountable for her powers.
>>47986892
> causing a massive economic depression
I think the blizzard lasted for a couple days?
>>47986915
It's funny, people are all talking about the law as if the country in question was a constitutional republic with legal separation of powers between the executive, legislature and judiciary instead of a pseudo-feudal sovereign monarchy where the ultimate decision of "did someone break the law" is decided by the person who froze the country.
So, actually, if Elsa wants a get out of jail free card, she gets a get out of jail free card (whether or not pitchforks then happen is not a matter of law).
>>47986954
It was long enough for their economy to fall apart and turn to a shitty ice based economy.
>>47986956
There were going to be pitchforks in the movie, I think. Wouldn't have worked, mind you, but it was at least planned if I remember right.
>>47986935
There's a difference between 'a little leniency' and 'get's off free and becomes the Queen'. Real life criminal cases can often take a person's life situation and childhood into account as well, it's still not a get out of jail free card.
If someone accidentally burns down a forest, including the homes of dozens or hundreds of people, they don't get off free even if they are remorseful and it was accidental.
>>47986950
I think a bigger question is whether this very much not modern day society has a law system as obsessed with legalese as ours, and whether they'd just throw her in the dungeon without a trial or not.
>>47986954
Plus, hey, the country's queen now has full control of some pretty darned impressive weather control powers, which has obvious beneficial economic implications...
>>47986956
This is also a very good point. Not to mention if she doesn't want to stay in jail, there's really no way they could keep her unless there is some form of Anti Magic.
>>47986956
>>47986980
Doesn't she get put in jail in the actual movie?
>>47986956
Just because someone has the power to do whatever they want, doesn't mean it's right or that they should get away without punishment. Not to mention that Arendelle isn't North Korea and Elsa isn't a tyrannical dictator who'd use her power like that willingly.
>>47986973
No it didn't. The only guy who sold ice was the guy with the reindeer, and he started ding that way before Elsa, back when he was just a kid.
He was actually more worried that he'd lose his job because suddenly ice was everywhere and his skills were no longer in demand.
You are making shit up.
>>47986978
and some use in diplomatic intimidation/military if they so desired.
>>47986990
Did she actually put any effort into escaping though?This is an actual question, since I haven't seen that movie since I watched it in theatres with my little sister.
>>47986990
Yes, because she chose not to use her powers to prevent it. And when she changed her mind, well, we saw how long that lasted.
>>47986996
True. But we were discussing the law, not justice. And as you say, Else isn't a tyrant. For which no doubt her subjects and her neighbours are very relieved.
So does Return only work once?
>>47987090
Yup.
>>47987090
Yep.
>>47986990
>>47987019
She gets thrown in jail by the prince, whatshisface, after she gets knocked unconscious by the chandelier. Afterwards she does want them to let her go because all she wants to do is go far away and be left alone forever, and because she's freaking out a little (because the prince tells her the people want to execute her and that her sister is missing), after the prince leaves her ice powers overflow again and break her bonds and the back wall of the cell.
It's less that she put effort into it and more that her powers just cause shit to freeze over when she has anxiety.
So she's standing there in her cell with the chains shattered and a bigass hole in the wall and she sortof goes, "Well, I guess I'll just fuck off then."
So she just walks out.
Would a GBE do anything to Orikan?
>>47987125
Under normal circumstances I would think it would ruin his day pretty badly? I would have thought that would be obvious? I assume you're talking about LoT Orikan, so the main things you have to be worried about are 1. the Warp energy he's buffing himself with, whih tends to interfere with normal physics to some extent. Given Necron technology can interfere with the Warp to some extent I don't think it would be guaranteed to entirely no-sell it-and that's the danger because 2) you REALLY don't want that beam to go out of control and chew a few holes through the Fortress, possibly unleashing a few C'tan shards who aren't guaranteed to be sane or benevolent enough to buddy up with you.
I'd advise you to aim for the bits of him that are still metal but still-you better have your own counter-time shenanigans tactics or super speed or hyper awareness or conceptually guaranteed-hit effects or something on that level because he's geared up for time-space shenanigans, and he's had a few milennia worth of foresight and study to git gud.
>>47987168
Yes I am definitely talking about LoT Orikan, though the question of what non Jump Fiat bullshit characters could survive a hit from a Gravitational Beam Emitter would be an interesting one.
>>47987214
>Not Alchemizing a GBE with the Red Hook from Darkest Dungeon to give it an Eldritch Damage Bonus.
>>47987235
...how much grist would that unholy abomination cost?
>>47987249
Probably in the Zillions Range. But it would most likely be worth it in terms of damage.
>>47987235
I don't see that jump on the drive?But that does make me wonder what other options for pimping the GBE are out there. . .
>>47987214
Oh, /that's/ easy. Basically, anything that's wholly divorced from the conventional understanding of physics.
This isn't necessarily about raw powerlevels; a simple example would be most fictional ghosts-for a given value of "survive" of course. Gravity has no truck with ghosts, therefore all you'd probably achieve is spooking the ghost a little with the sudden warping of space and their haunted house imploding. Then you'll probably get haunted too. Really, trying to snipe any kind of spirit or being with a mystical form of intangibility that can go intangible would do basically nothing except ruin their home. I suppose a scientifically produced form of intagibility would depend on the exact mechanics at hand.
Then we have organic entities such as Scion, Eywa or maybe even the Zerg Overmind which are so vast and dispersed that ONE shot would likely be insufficient to kill them, just hurt them really badly. The localised effect of the beam means hiveminds in general have an advantage against it, the more dispersed they are e.g. the Vajra of Macross. Or robotic ones like Skynet.
Finally there are those so divorced from physics the beam isn't an issue to them. You could waste a True Fae's Actor, but the GBE's lack of context in Arcadia would work against it if you tried to shoot the entire True Fae due to the weapon having no innate contract with the Hedge. There's a chap called Tunpo in GUNNM who's hyperdimensional and can simply recollect himself at a higher state of existence where space and time have no meaning. I'm actually not sure if Saber in her prime's Avalon would deflect the beam or not; I understand it provides conceptual fairyland protection up to the 6th dimension but then there's the mana costs to account for and even a single shot from the GBE is /at least/ on par with Notes-level attacks. A True Demon or another demon at its' level's "innate Reality Marble" would likely be able to negate the effects though.
>>47980006
There are too many, but have this one.
>>47987283
Darkest Dungeon is in the gauntlets folder.
>>47987283
It's a gauntlet. Try Dreadnaught Engineering from FFXIV for multiplying the size and effect by 1.5, Magitech Perks for getting past those pesky "Ignore it if it isn't magic" Shields, Importing it as a Noble Phantasm, Correspondence Course in Fallen London might help, you could import it as a Golden Weapon in Magical Girl Noir, and Self Made Shopkeeper (Recettear)/ Alchemical Expertise (Exceed) to transfer properties from other objects (I recommend at least adding Dark Matter from FFIX's ability "to “affect the space between spaces”, piercing into unseen dimensions where present."
>>47987283
I actually do have such an assemblage written from ages ago. Initially I only intended to jot down some ideas for improving the GBE at first and it's still more or less low-mid tier in my arsenal as a whole but it eventually got complicated enough to merit its' own combo writeup.
http://pastebin.com/mpKLg27A
>>47985725
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>>47985694
So what DID your Shadow say to you in Persona anyway, /jc/? If you haven't been there, what do you think it'd say?How badly did it hurt?
>>47986254
the black death chain sword and a necron gauss flayer.
>>47987647"Don't give up! You have to keep going! Everyone's counting on you, remember? They believe in you, so believe in yourself too!"
>>47987647
It was extremely painful.
>>47983358
What exactly is a key crest? I have been using the perk from scooby doo that makes you not suffer from overeating in my mega magic energy eating scheme.
>>47987647
"You're a horrible monster that enjoys murder and slaughter. A creature incapable of positive feelings of friendship and love, and in their places only have jealous possessiveness and obsession, everything else but a mask to hide your nature from the recipients. But above all else you are afraid, and paranoid, scared of everything from your own shadow to the very stars in the sky, devoid of trust for even those with whom you've shared your very mind and soul."
Sadly I had already acknowledged that long, long before. There's not much they can do to you when you've acknowledged all of your own negative qualities and accepted that you cannot and don't truly want to change them.
>>47987875
Neat.
So, any last words before that one fateful day, you slip up, lose everything you ever valued and are about to die having left nothing behind in your journey but horror and violation?
>>47987901
Good luck finding something that can kill me. The thing about being a creature of fear is that you're going to go to any ends to make sure you can't die. Yay perks.
>>47987906
You're pathetic and ruled by your own vices. Sooner or later, you'll get sloppy and someone, somewhere will be pissed off enough to end your miserable existence like the cosmic shitstain you are.
You know it, deep down.
It's what drives you forwards.
It's why you haven't, and will never, work up the balls to Spark.
I ask again-what do you say on the day when you finally lose everything?
>>47987921
Advanced Classes and Reclassing.
>>47986860
That stuff is basically A magical elemental explosive, are you sure that is a good idea?
>>47987925
I'm not though, silly. I go through pains to present my something else. I like to kill, but I try not to unless I have to. I can't connect with others, but I make sure to act it out. Every little bit of paranoia and control towards my companions? Masked with false kindness. I don't take unnecessary risks. I don't indulge myself in any of my negative vices in any sort or risky way.
Also you seem to think that because of what I am at my core, that I go around as a murder machine. I'm don't. The way I act is more like your friendly little prankster + a giant bookworm nerd. Those simply aren't my roots, is all.
>>47987647Are you having fun yet?
>>47987647
There is nothing I can say that would hurt you and that is the greatest condemnation I have to offer. You recognize your flaws but do nothing to change them. You Accept yourself, and in doing so have given up the drive to better yourself. You are a disgrace to the person you once were, and now it is time for us to die.
>>47987939
That's...vaguely disappointing. The world-fictional or otherwise-is full of people like you, who can't really imagine you'd ever be defeated until its' too late.
And then, universally, when you ARE humiliated and laid low by one oversight too many-you simply can't cope. You break, and cry, and debase yourself to do anything that might let you escape from your situation.
It's depressingly predictable.
I feel sorry for your Benefactor. They wanted someone actually entertainmenting, and all they got is the average politician.
>>47987647
"You're boring. All this power, all these grand monuments you cart around with you, and you're just some stupid child playing tourist. The only reason that she even watches you is for your 'friends', who don't even want to be around you if they can avoid it. She only keeps you around because it means they come back from death faster.
Just admit it, you're nothing without someone to prop you up. An empty shell for others to use as they please before dropping you like trash."
>>47988007
What do you think I spend my days doing, anon? I spend them exploring, reading and learning, and practicing with whatever new powers I've bought. I don't see how that can't be entertaining. Do you picture me alone in a fish tank weeping over my knees?
I'm not sure what you expect me to do if I'm laid low. I'd be dead. There is nothing to do.
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