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Hwee Need A New Fucking Codex Edition
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>FAQs
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>40k 7th edition quick reference sheet(s)
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>Forgeworld Book index
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>White Dwarves
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>>47812262
>mfw OP's picture
Y'all niggas need church.
>>47812262
fucking footfags
>>47812262
>>47812315
aw man, I was gonna start painting my imperial fists, but now I guess I'll watch some toe-sucking lesbians.
>>47812262
PURGE THIS.
>>47812262
>footfags
>>47812262
If enough orks believe in something, that something will happen?
What is the most powerful thing the orks could force into existence without breaking the setting?
>>47812330
Do you want the church wearing Knight to bust in your house?
>>47812196
basically yeah. orks while they frequently go after cults but lack any kind of quarantine so some will escape and/or infect their attackers.
So an individual cult doesn'tlast long but the infection spreads readily enough.
>>47812165
Eldar and Tau have both beeen explicitlymentionedas susceptible too genestealer cults, they do tend to be unsuccessful more often though.
>>47812391
A better codex.
>Orks are a melee race
>I2
>Codex 5+
>>47812391
no, ork psychic presence only applies to making ork technology actually work and occasional massive flukes of luck, better aim, etc., not overtly obvious reality-bending shenanigans besides the dedicated psykers. /tg/ would know this if they spent their time actually reading the setting instead of shitposting about it
>>47812315
>>47812392
Your church-knight is tiny and weak
>>47812430
>without breaking the setting
>>47812430
/rimshot
>>47812445
Says you with your tiny church. You call that a church? I wouldn't allow my Canoness to have /ss/ times in that church.
>>47812449
They can make it better by .1%.
>>47812391
>If enough orks believe in something, that something will happen?
no
this is a common missconception that the actual fluff dissagress with.
They can have a small effect but it's limted to making a gun not jam but they won't make a pipe attached too an empty box shoot bullets.
>>47812442
Are you sure about this? What about gork and mork? I mean, I don't have source that says it can do anything like i describe, but is there a place that definitely says no it doesnt work like that?
>footfags
>>47812416
>So an individual cult doesn't last long but the infection spreads readily enough.
This sounds like it would wipe out entire Ork planets on its own.
Is there any doubt Tyranids will eventually "win" 40k?
>>47812505
It, much like a weird boy's powers, increases as more orks get together. IIRC, there's plasma technoloy that was lost when the emperor attacked an ork world. said ork world desintigrated as orkz died off.
>footfags
Curioius, but what should the Leviathan dreadnought be shooting at with it's weapons?
>>47812509
Stupid, dumb, frog posting scum.
>>47812514
>This sounds like it would wipe out entire Ork planets on its own.
No.
>Is there any doubt Tyranids will eventually "win" 40k?
Also wrong. There is one they fear. In their tongue he is skree skree skree, but in our tongue he is Robin Cruddance.
Foot fetishes and vore are like the weirdest fetishes. At least with other fetishes you can KIND of relate them to genitalia or sex, but these two are just like totally unrelated whatsoever.
>>47812514
>Is there any doubt Tyranids will eventually "win" 40k?
The thing the Tyranids are running from will eventually win.
>>47812624
Yeah Cruddance. He's into the Howling Griffons so there's your answer.
>>47812262
>Starting a general thread with off-topic fetish bait
>>47812624
Which has never been mentioned since 3rd edition. Nids are no longer running from anything.
>>47812594
>Robin Cruddance
When in doubt, things could always get worse.
>>47812624
>The thing the Tyranids are running from will eventually win.
I don't buy this theory.
>>47812678
It could be worse.
Is there literally any information about a new CSM codex on the horizon? I would think the end of 2016 would be the latest they would release it, shit's already 4 years old. Meanwhile loyalists had 2 codices already.
>>47812678
As long as you guys keep aknowledging the attention seeking OP image fag, he will continue to fish for (You)'s.
>>47812315
I thought that was an Ork in the background of that pic at first.
>>47812621
It's like this
"I think X body part is pretty, therefore I should like to touch it with my pemis"
>>47812678
>off topic
>it's a pic of 40k
>for a 40k thread
also a community that wasn't full of immature faggots would just have a mild chuckle and ignore it, but that's too much to hope for here onneo/tg/
>>47812658
>The Tyranids are fleeing from the Howling Griffons
>>47812722
OP's don't get (You)'s.
>>47812740
In the case of footfags it's because they got their mental wires crossed at birth - the part of the brain that deals with feet and legs is crossed to the adjacent part that deals with sexual attraction.
For Vore? No fucking idea.
>>47812694
>When in doubt, things could always get worse.
How can it get worse when the Nid version of the Dragonborn is after you?
>>47812761
That's a Fist, not a HG.
>>47812740
The foot is like so far removed from sexual attraction though. It really proves the brain wires getting crossed explanation for foot fetishes.
At least with armpits, it's close to the boob. Arms raised is a suggestive pose. Thighs are close to the vagina and legs spread is a sexually suggestive pose. Butt has evolutionary roots and breasts are simulated chest-butts. Hand fetish? I don't know if this exists, but hands go hand in hand with masturbation for both sexes. Mouth fetish? Oral sex.
Foot fetish is as stupid as like nose fucking or an ear fetish.
>>47812714
If you ever needed concrete evidence that all the CSM posters are faglords, here it is. Although anyone with a brain already knew it.
>>47812792
>nose fucking
The japs are into this real hard.
>>47812714
Sad Panda and the other reliable source have said Q3/4 2017. Which is likely the timeframe for 8th edition.
It's pretty clear none if the existing armies that havent already been updated to 7th, will be updated. The best you can hope for is a decent formation in Fenris part 2 later this year. But I wouldnt hold my breath if I were you. Shelf your CSM until late 2017.
>>47812784
>How can it get worse
They could Skubmar the Nids out of existence. That would be pretty bad.
>>47812547
So it can happen then. Well, what do you think would be the limit without breaking the setting? I just wanted some cool ideas
>>47812803
>faglord
>concrete evidence
>anyone with a brain already knew
You must be 18 years old....
>>47812807
>Sad Panda and the other reliable source have said Q3/4 2017
god dammit
>>47812840
Thanks for proving the argument even more. Get madder, Chaoscuck. Too bad all that rage doesn't make your shitty army any better, even when you play Khorne.
>>47812792
>Foot fetish is as stupid as like nose fucking or an ear fetish.
>nose fucking
Do wat?
>>47812740
>it's like this
>bags of sand
No, son. No.
It's not like that.
>>47812694
The Fleeing theory = Ward-tier shitscribble. 40k's timeline officially stops as the 13th Crusade is about to plow Terra's furrow. Suck it, xenos.
>>47812769
yes they do
>>47812808
They wouldn't squat Tyranids. They'd rename them Tyrantspawn Skitter Reapers and make the Hive Mind the fourth Chaos god.
>>47812792
>>47812860
A foot fetish is weird since as a child you must have gained it from somewhere I heard something you see more females show there barefeet causing your brain to think feminine=bare feet
>>47812840
>Chaos fags proving themselves to be hyper sensitive children
Are they better or worse than tau fags, they're always whining about how under powered they are.
>>47812808
They can't do that. How else would they get Nidfag tears to sweeten their drinks?
>>47812904
But the nose thing. Just how though.
>>47812262
>that pic
We've gone too far with this.
>>47812854
I dont even play CSM anon.
>get madder
You're the only one here that seems to be mad.
>chaoscuck
Really bro. Have some self-respect.
>>47812891
>>47812921
I just want Tyranids to be balanced damnit.
How do you beat 5 knights at 2000 points?
>>47812944
Fuck off, retard.
>>47812935
Bet you miss the chicken now.
>>47812944
>i'm not mad, you're mad! I'm going to post a gif image to prove it!
Holy shit so autistic and mad
>>47812953
With which faction?
>>47812953
6 Wraithknights.
>>47812904
It's not that hard for me to understand, at least feet are something you find on a woman.
I mean, there are some weird fetishists out there, I knew a guy who was really in to 'accountants' to the degree he couldn't get it up if she could pass her self off as one.
He'd only hit on women with glasses and when he got them home he would ask them math questions, if they got it wrong he would just leave without a word.
Because this thread needs some Hotpocketing let me try to make this thread 40k related. Roll up a planet.
>>47812807
Hah. That tripfag was lying then! No plastic SoB!Hello darkness my old friend....
>>47812808
Why would they do that? Nids are popular, 40k is popular.
>>47812891
No they wouldn't. Tyranids are a 'unique' name and is copyrightable. Empire, Dark Elves, High Elves, Wood Elves, Lizardmen, Ogres, Orcs, Goblins, Dwarfs.. These are not copyrightable.
That's why they were changed. Bretonnia, Skaven and Chaos all remain in Skubmar under their original names because they were legally defensible.
Chapter House Lawsuit, the judge said you cannot copyright names such as "Imperial Guard" either, hence why they got renamed Astra Militarium, and why Storm Troopers are Temptus Scions. It's why the codex title for Space Marines is Adeptus Astartes.
>>47812992
Whatever faction you play as
>>47812953
Tau'nar Supremacy Suits
Stormsurges
Wraith Knights
Wraith Guard
SS/TH termies with Iron Clads on Stormraven gunships.
>>47812445
GOod paint, fucking awful pose
People putting Cerastus knights in "action" poses is cringy as fuck
>>47812993
Now this is podracing.
>>47812905
Tau do have it rough.
It feels like every unit but riptides is complete shit so I have to take them in every list.
If only fire warriors were not so bad for their points I would take a gunline of them but GW noooo, GW wants to sell big monster kits so I have to use riptides if I wanna win at all...
>>47812959
>>47812988
Is this guy for real? Calm down anon.
>>47813021
>SS/TH termies with Iron Clads on Stormraven gunships.
Lol.
Double lol for the ones that go down before disembarking.
>>47812726
There is, but he's painted purple.
>>47813042
Too obvious.
>>47813006
There was a Warhammer world picture that had some SoBs.
>>47813070
Whoa, is that a new army?!
>>47813050
It's pretty hard to take down Stormravens with only 125 points.
What are the Knights gonna do? Angrily ping their heavy stubber at you?
>>47813050
Do 5 knights put out enough skyfire to take down even a single Stormraven if it jinks?
>>47812988
>calling some dude in a thread about playing with plastic army men on 4chan autistic.
pottery
>>47812770
I don't think it usually happens at birth, fetishes typically form from a situation or object being associated with arousal or pleasure during development Hence bdsm being a cross of pain and pleasure.
Vore does speak to a fucked up childhood experience, though.
>>47812262
I honestly thought at first that he was licking her pubes
>>47813090
>It's pretty hard to take down Stormravens with only 125 points.
The fuck are you talking about.
>What are the Knights gonna do
They literally have an AA gun option for their top mount and the main guns can have gatling guns that shoot way more than 6 shots to hit on those 6's.
>>47812792
Hand fetish definitely, hotaru on dagashi kashi is an example. The hands are drawn like like and older woman's hands vs chubby or just straight fingers. Hotaru also has the boob, eye, and European clothes fetish going on as well.
Basically all anime is fetish material.
>>47813102
>using retarded memes from other boards
>getting upset that someone (probably you anyways) was called an autist
Autistic to the max.
>>47813079
No. It's something that too long to get here.
>>47813119
Hotpockets would be all over OP then.
>>47813135
Pic related.
>>47813119
Next thread he'll be licking a chicken.
>>47813139
First post in the friend bud, but if you really want to project this hard go for it. The only person who is looking mad or autistic is you.
>A heavy 12 S6 rending gun not hitting a storm raven.....
>>47813159
Can we not have one /40kg/ that isn't an eyesore?
is this a good list for a noob? exactly 1500 points
sorcerer: bolt pistol/force sword
20 cultists: shotgun (because I had 2 points left over), 19 autoguns
9 csm: combi-flamer, flamer, rhino
10 csm: 2 flamers, rhino
10 csm: combi-plasma, 2 plasma guns, rhino with combi-plasma
3 terminators: combi-plasmas/power axes
helbrute: multimelta/power fist with incorporated heavy flamer
3 bikers: melta bombs, 2 meltaguns
tri-las predator
vindicator: combi-bolter, possession
vindicator: combi-bolter, possessioninb4 no chaos is shit play space marines
>>47812262
Of all the 40k porn I have seen there is barely any footfag shit the only other one I can think of is one with an SoB getting tickled. Most footfag related 40k stuff is in those 1d4chan stories Sister of Nurgle and Eldar Ears
>>47813159
Well, it IS for chaos...
>>47813212
>Most footfag related 40k stuff is in those 1d4chan stories Sister of Nurgle and Eldar Ears
I am disgusted yet morbidly curios.
>>47812761
Also the Chaos Space Marines don't have Land Speeders or Razorbacks because the Tau destroyed them all.
If Autocannons were as OP as they are in the RPGs, Imperial Guard would instantly become at least equal to Necrons.
Autocannon spam would reign, and a new level of cheese would be achieved.
>>47812819
It is whatever you could convince a massive number of orks to believe in. If you get enough of them to all really believe in it, it'll happen. But remember that they have fairly short attention spans and some are more easily convinced than others.
>>47813120
5 Knights are 1875. The theoretical game is 2000 points.
You could only have 4 Knights with the gatling and the auto cannons. But who the hell fills their list with that Knight. Besides it's S6 and the auto cannon is S7. With jink you're not gonna down 10 Stormraven gunships.
I also figured out you should just spam 10 Stormravens (5 wings) with Las cannons and multi meltas for 2k points . So good luck Knight player, you lost.
Ork cockney slang lacks references to their mum. Orks don't have mums, but what if they have this nebulous concept of a sacred primal something that fills them with inexplicable shame and guilt and righteous anger that an individual ork can only describe as "Me Mum"?
>>47813292
>oi wat yoo say 'bout me mum?
>fightan ensues
>escalates into a full brawl
>later that day surviving boyz, filled with mixed and confused feelings try to sneak the most venerable sister or farseer in nearby enemy camp a crudely assembled bouquet of plant matter what might pass for flowers if one squints hard enough
>>47813212
>>47813260
>mfw
>>47813292
Their squig.
>>47813314
You will never be the mother of a Wauuuuugh, anon.
>>47813324
If I stuck my hand in that, would I get it back?
>>47813336
No.
>>47813336
I doubt you'll get anything left of your arm if you tempt an emissary of the deep.
>>47813336
With fish attached. Notice how the teeth curve inward?
>>47813212
There is a reason for that. Foots are not for sexual.
>>47813159
indeed he will
>>47813260
>>47813324
Here they are
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/An_Eldar's_Ears
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Sister_of_Nurgle
Though the footfaggortory is in little parts one just has a commissar inspect an eldars ankles and toes by sticking his finger between them and the other has a SoB forcibly stripped down and forced to run barefoot though a nurgle infested field.
>>47813369
I don't get it. Are you telling Frilled Sharks aren't filled with industrial grade nope in their mouths?
>>47813370
>>47813370
This
I am a footfag and I find anything sexual look footjobs gross feet for touching
>>47813523
Give that man a power accordion.
>>47813289
>I have to resort to flyers to win!
Not even going to humor following the chain to read the rest.
>>47813523
>>47813543
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwUg8KkipA0
STCs ARE IN SERBIA
EMPEROR LIVES IN SERBIA
REMOVE TECHNO BARBARIAN YOU ARE SMELL
GO BACK TO EMPIRE OF ALBA
>>47813568
Wait arent The Death Guard basically descended from Albanians?
This explains alot
>>47813598
Nah, only the Terran Deathguard, whom were systematically removed. Mostly at Istvaan III, but y'know.
>>47812952
Hell, even just a good internal balance would do...
>>47813204
Thats a cool little force, I like it.
>>47813567
How do you feel about super heavies?
>>47813568
I just finished watching that a few hours ago.
>>47813153
> let's make 40k serious again!
Hotaru x Saya = jimmies tingle
Alright, /tg/, feeling inspired by pic related.
Looking through my bits, odds and ends, I want to make a small-ish, rag-tag group of guardsmen pulled from regiments all over the Imperium into the retainer of a Lord Inquisitor. Kinda like The Dirty Dozen meets D-99 (and, yes, I have Schaeffer & Co).
What's a decent way to portray this on the table? Should I start with an Emperor's Blade Assault Company and branch out, or use Combined Arms and add on from there? Or should I say "fuck it" and just keep them on my shelf to gawk at?
>>47813975
You may just want to recruit some friends and play the attached game.
>>47813169
>bud
Nothin' personnel autismo
>>47813377
Fucking love it.
>>47814016
This is pretty dope. Thanks, anon.
>>47813169
>>47814052
What is this euphorical caucktistic manlet shit doing in my sovereign libertarian degenerate-free trump tower board?
>>47813006
if they changed names to let them copy right why did they change the names of elves from the unique copyrightable names they had in warhammer fantasy to uncopyrightable Aelves.
Plus a bunch of others like the free peoples and such wouldn'tbe copyrightable either.
Looking at it they could have done very different things with several factions if they were actually after copyright.
>>47813101
they can mount half of a hydra on tgeir shoulders. Plus any with the bolt cannon can have a go even snapshooting. so dependingon loadout yes.
>>47812262
>cultist-chan
>>47813377
kek
>>47812262
>Need A New Fucking Codex Edition
sisters of battle when
>>47814263
Isn't every single general like this? If it's not this it's Taufaggotry or clueless bad players shit-talking like they know how to play vs. angry cheeselord WAACfags telling them how wrong and stupid they are.
>>47814408
Part of me is hoping that with the Beast a Rises being popular, the next BL series will cover the Reign of Blood and we'll get a good Sisters codex out of it.
Like that will ever happen though ;-;
need help from the 40k masses, if you were a retard and primed your imperial fists black and were trying to achieve pic related color scheme, how would you work up to that yellow? because I just tried using celestra grey and flash gitz yellow like a fucking retard and now I have a marine that looks like a dirty old glowstick.
>>47814621
And you didn't use a test model because?
>>47814621
hmm, it might be because celestra grey is a little bit green. might have to layer on a few very thin layers of yellow
i suggest you start over with a white primer and put that poor marine down in some simple green
>>47812953
Lots of things. Knights aren't good. Off the top of my head I'd suggest a Reaver Titan and a Librarius Conclave with Tigurius, because invisible Titans are awesome.
>>47813003
Rolling
>>47813070
THANK THE EMPEROR
Rolled 10, 7, 6, 1, 10, 3, 2, 4, 1, 5 = 49 (10d10)
>>47814777
How silly
>>47814787
>Models return from battle
>They're the same 20 year old sculpts, made from the same 20 year old molds, but in Genuine Citadel(TM) Finecast(R)
At least now you can make them actually fit together properly on a warm day.
>>47814787
are you really excited for white dwarf battle reports, or what
>>47813070
Please please please please don't be bull shit
>>47814693
>that feel when you hate knights but still want one
i fear for my wallet next year if we get that csm update, admech 30k in 40k, or another faction
>>47812391
>orks want eternal war
>there is only war in 41st millenium
hue hue hue
>>47814866
They're not that bad with the "buy one and a piece of terrain, get one free" box. Sell the other one on eBay or keep it around to introduce new players to the game.
>>47812624
But who do they run from? Brainboyz? Mi-Go? Elder things? Horatio-like nation of clones of Sly Marbo?
>>47812330
Watch tickle witch.
>>47813204
You need a heldrake :)
I kind of want to start a GK army, but it really bothers me that they don't have a Librarian kit of their own, and the normal Librarian looks so different from the rest of the army. Does anyone have suggestions/inspiration for converting a GK Terminator into a Librarian?
Rolled 10, 8, 8, 10, 8, 5, 3, 1, 10, 7 = 70 (10d10)
>>47813003
rollan
>>47813204
>CSM
>4 Troop choices
What are you doing?
New Lord of Change model when
>>47814621
I've found the metallics good for that. the dark silver covers black well and is easily covered by the lightsilver (i forget their names whateverthe new boltgun and mitheral are) which can be coveredby white or yellow easily.
>>47814991
hmmm...
a fortress world of borderline heresy, with petty cults and hidden necron tombs. mildly toxic atmosphere...
So this regiment lives on a beautiful continental world, though you have to wear a mask to enjoy it. Neutral relations with the Tau have softened hostility towards Xenos, letting corruption of thought sink in. Further apostasy has set in as the citizens give ear to the growing cults that preach of the dead rising from their graves, bestowing eternal life.
I could dig this.
From the previous CSM codex to the current one, Plague Marines went up by 1 point, but got plague knives in exchange; many people expected them to be nerfed when they actually got a buff (especially with the changes to how FNP works and how Toughness bonuses affect Instant Death).
/40kg/, How do you think Plague Marines will change in the next codex? Do you think they'll change at all?
I think they'll remain the strongest all-round cult troop in the codex, even if they don't change.
>>47815086
>I think they'll remain the strongest all-round cult troop in the codex, even if they don't change.
I personally think that one goes to Noise Marines, honestly. Plague Marines are really good at not dying (which isn't nothing, don't get me wrong), but that's honestly about it. They just lack mobility to really get from A to B, and they can be easily outmaneuvered by other units. Their Plague Knives may seem great, but at the end of the day it's really not THAT much better than what they would otherwise be, and they're striking at I3, so they're going last or equal against most threats where that Poison would actually matter.
Noise Marines are better IMO as an OVERALL unit because of their incredible flexibility as a unit. They are basically B+ in Shooting, CC, and Durability, which makes them an A+ unit, and the Blastmaster is hands-down the best man-portable weapon in the entire Codex (maybe even the game) due to its strength, flexible firing modes, and Ignores Cover (something our army typically lacks). An Icon gives them FnP (5+), so stick them in ruins and laugh as they shrug off a shocking amount of firepower. They're easier to kill than Plague Marines, but they put out WAY more firepower and can actually move on their own when they need to, and have better shooting options.
>>47814930
i almost offered to go half with a guy looking at knights today, but i have enough to work on and i would have to do so much work to make it a proper chaos/renegade knight. i'm burnt out from working on 1 exalted seeker chariot
>>47814862
it's not bullshit, but all it means is they're using the models for some campaign book or magazine article.
The people thinking that sign showing up means the army is getting updated are the same as those retards who freak out about new codexes when one of the books goes out of stock on the US webstore.
Is it possible to play an all Skitarii force? My friend wants to but I noticed they have no HQ so whats the solution?
>>47813021
>Tau'nar Supremacy Suits
>suits
>s
>plural
>he thinks he needs more than one
To be fair, if anyone is that much of a faglord bringing an all knight army, he deserveds to be buttfucked.
Hell, it is literally the reason I like War Convocation. Strong, but not Eldar/Space marine tiers of stupidly OP, and has a clear centerpiece model with a lot of troops to support it.
Feels a lot more fluffy and interesting than the "hurr I am only fielding knights, now 60% of your army is useless leleell xd xd xd"
>>47812445
Not this shit again
>>47813042
Bait, but to be fair, you do have to rely on the MCs or GCs to have a fair chance against the equally WAAC faggotry lists that Marines, Eldar and Necrons field.
Nothing else can really punch through a lot of their stuff, nor survive their alpha strikes. It is pretty lame, but play a bit more Zone Mortalis and it is fine.
>>47812944
I have this same exact Navy SEAL poster in my room
>>47815292
Sergeant of a squad is declared the warlord.
>>47814621
Rhinox hide, then a white, then the yellow base, 3 coats, then 3 coats of flash gitz yellow
>>47813212
http://notreallybuttpants.tumblr.com/post/128345348529/how-about-a-eldar-farseer-giving-a-footjob-always there is this though not much.
>>47815334
Honestly, the Supremacy Suit doesn't seem all that broken to me in comparison to other superheavies. I'd take a pair of Wraithknights over one in a heartbeat.
>>47815359
thanks
>>47815444
Fuck you faggot I hope your mother has a heart attack and your dad kills himself for helping spawn the little shit dribbler that you are.
>>47815467
thanks
>>47813006
Which is stupid, because you don't need to copyright them being Space Marines.
Other games have space marines, but don't worry about their copy right, and in the same damn industry, there is Warmachine with elves and dwarves, called elves and dwarves.
They don't need to be able to copyright Elves to use elves. it was extremely stupid.
>>47814621
Over black just apply multiple thin layers of averland sunset. Then whatever yellow after that in the same way. I'd probably suggest Yriel Yellow or you might like the way averland looks on its own. Up to you.
>>47814871
Underrated post.
Rolled 3, 2, 7, 3, 3, 10, 2, 3, 6, 6 = 45 (10d10)
>>47813003
rolan
>>47815669
>Tyranids
Well my world is fucked
>>47815217
True enough. I just want a SoB codex that's not shit.
>>47815139
Noise Marines have decent shooting, but their CC is sub-par and there durability is only okay. They also aren't any more mobile than Plagues.
Noise Marines with Sonic Blasters are just too expensive, so they aren't putting out WAY more firepower.
Frankly, I don't understand where this Noise Marines are super good meme came from. Is it delusional Slaanesh players? Is it theorycrafting non-CSM players trying to claim that the codex is totally fine?
>>47814693
>Knights aren't good
L.O.L.
>>47816125
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>>47816096
Teaser for next week clearly says we are going back to AoS.
"Shit" photos as I couldn't scan it, no time.
>>47816113
PFFFFF, that sure is a fair match
>>47816125
Noice savings on the Bangels, might have to pick one or two up
How do you deal with wraightknights as tau at 1000 points
The easiest option would be firestorm cadre but I also want to actually havefunand not run WAAC to be remotely viable vs WAAC
I'm tempted to go 2 full squads of sniper drones and back it up with 1 or 2 broadsides, hitting on 2+ and auto wounding on 4+ with possible rending, if i had an ethereal hiding near them that becomes 54 shots at 24" range
An alternative to the broadsides is a buffmander and 2-4 double missile pod suits
>>47816342
Snipers only wound gargant creatures on 6's
>>47816387
ah shit, i thought it was monsterous
>>47816096
Alright now I'm curious.
What can a Heldrake even do in a dog fight?
As far as I know it has that one S7 hit if it somehow manages to get in close which it won't because its P value is crap.
It's not a fighter so there's no earthly reason to have the HA over the Baleflamer when it comes to AA or have I missed something?
Can it somehow vector strike in Dogfights beside it's one free attack? That seems like the only way to make it even remotely desireble to be in a DF with a Heldrake.
>>47816387
how about this then
HQ (152pts)
XV8 Commander Crisis Suit [2x Burst Cannon, Command and Control Node, Counterfire Defence System, Early Warning Override, Multi-spectrum Sensor Suite, Neuroweb System Jammer]
Elites (228pts)
XV8 Crisis Battlesuits
Crisis Shas'ui [Early Warning Override, 2x Missile Pod]
Crisis Shas'ui [Early Warning Override, 2x Missile Pod]
Crisis Shas'ui [Early Warning Override, 2x Missile Pod]
Crisis Shas'ui [Early Warning Override, 2x Missile Pod]
Troops (362pts)
Shas'ui + 6x Fire Warrior with Pulse Blaster, MV36 Guardian Drone
TY7 Devilfish Blacksun Filter, Disruption Pod
Shas'ui + 6x Fire Warrior with Pulse Blaster, MV36 Guardian Drone
TY7 Devilfish Blacksun Filter, Disruption Pod
Heavy Support (258pts)
3x Firesight Marksman, 6x MV71 Sniper Drone
3x Firesight Marksman, 6x MV71 Sniper Drone
>>47813175
>2 hits
>1/3 chance of a penetrating hit
Whoopie.
>>47816417
The Heldrake with HA is the only anti-air option for CSM unless you count upgrading your missile launchers.
>>47816104
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>>47816120
Is it bad that I'm most interested in the new transfer sheets?
>>47816125
Liking the baal predator rather than a dread.
>>47813204
please respond. does no replies mean my list is okay, or beyond shit? I'm thinking I should change the 9 CSM that go in the rhino with the sorcerer, but all the other types of marines are so expensive I'd have to alter some other units too
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>>47815002
I don't know wat do. Would my list really benefit from a heldrake?
>>47816417
In the lore and in a lot of the art Heldrakes often latch onto enemy aircraft and shit fire all over the cockpit. They also just grab planes and tear them apart.
The problem is GW didn't translate this idea into their rules.
>>47816556
All CSm lists need heldrakes with baleflamers.
>>47816556
no responses means no responses desu, but at 1500 points you are going to see alot of large units like riptides, imperial and wraithknights etc and i don't think 2 vindis and a pre will be able to deal with them
other than that its a decent setup, your troops are going to be obliterated no matter how much you invest into them so i would cut cost there and move it somewhere else, maybe obliterators or a daemon prince?
>>47816520
Missile pods aren't going to do much to a WK. Each suit only has a 14% chance to take a wound off each turn.
Posting here instead of the list thread because I actually want a reply.
Imperial Guard - 1500 points
++CAD - Astra Militarum++
Company command squad [103 points]
- Carapace armour
- Captain has Volkov's cane
- Master of Ordnance
Primaris Psyker [75 points]
- Mastery level 2
(X2)
Veterans [76 points]
- Carapace armour
- Sergeant has Bolter
++Emperor's Fist Armoured company - Astra Militarum++
(Tank commander)
Leman Russ Punisher [210 points]
- Sponson Heavy Bolters
- Camo netting
- Dozer blade
(Commander squadron-mate)
Leman Russ Exterminator [165 points]
- Sponson Heavy Bolters
- Camo netting
(X2)
Leman Russ Demolisher [185 points]
- Camo netting
Leman Russ Executioner [205 points]
- Sponson Plasma cannons
- Camo netting
- Dozer blade
(X2)
Engineer [60 points]
- (X2) Servitor
++Fortification++
Aegis defense line [100 points]
- Quad gun
>stealing the initiative...
Oh no... what is this? why is this a thing?
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>>47816113
That box artwork is pretty good.
>>47816588
>what is this
An effect that fucks you over 1 game in 12.
>why is this a thing
Fun™.
>>47816567
>>47816568
I should caveat that I don't intend to use this list against ruthless competitive players, so far I have played mainly against astra militarum tank walls, dark eldar, loyalist marines, and a dark angels player with predators/land raiders. The AM and DA players made me wish I had more melta guns and actually my marines don't seem to die super fast as the internet says. Main problems I have had are morale failures and lack of sufficient offensive output.
>>47816588
so you have to think
So, some friends and I rented a cabin for some beer and BBQ and of course Warhammer 40k. Gonna leave in about 4 hours. You guys want some pictures from the expedition?
>>47816617
That sounds like a beautiful thing, very jealous, yes please do.
>>47813204
Split the cultists into two units, drop the autoguns.
Autoguns are a waste of points, a bigger squad just means it hurt all the more when they break and run off the table.
Cultists are for hiding in cover on your table edge by objectives.
Helbrute is garbage. If you're insistent on running it, give it a real ranged weapon and throw it in a Helcult with the Cultists. They lose ObSec, but they gain Fearless and the Helbrute can at least help them out if something drops onto your side to bother them.
Tri-las pred is too expensive for what it does. Drop the turret las and hope that it doesn't die too early playing pillbox or drop the sponsons and try to shoot and scoot to stay alive.
You may want to add some more melta on the Termicide and/or CSM depending on your meta.
Seriously, just run Codex Space Marines. You aren't really taking advantage of any of Chaos's unique shit, and it would vastly improve the bulk of the list. If you insist on crippling yourself, be aware that Rhino CSM squads are fucking awful and are a giant 600 point albatross around your list's neck.
>>47816588
Ostensibly it's too lessen the massive benefit of first turn in an I-go-you-go turn system. In practice it just fucks people over. Most armies lack the mobility to deploy conservatively without crippling their ability to project their force, and those that have that mobility (Eldar, Tau, Drop Marines) are already top codexes.
>>47816621
Will deliver on Monday or Tuesday. Too bad it's probably going to rain the whole weekend so we can't set up tables outside. Oh well.
>>47816623
alright, my main issue is I don't want a low model count army, but I also don't just want to spam cultists. so the marines seemed like my main option, I guess I could take a lot of bikes instead or something
>>47816574
hmm, running the numbers assuming BS6 from the markerlights gives me 16% per suit, i would have thought it would much higher than that at str7
swapping them out for missilesides gives me 67% to wound each assuming BS5, add them to the sniper drones i end up with 5.3 wounds per turn average, but thats almost my entire army shooting at one dude
>>47816688
T8 3+ 5+++ is a doozy to get through, you really want something that can at least ignore the armor save.
>>47816665
If you want some bulk scoring bodies, ally in daemons or Renegades & Heretics.
>don't want a low model count army
You chose the wrong army, nigga. Chaos Space Marines are more expensive (once upgrades are included) than their loyalist brethren.
Why exactly do you want to play CSM? What draws you to the faction? Mechanically, what draws you to the codex?
>>47816611
This info helps a lot.
If your Marines are surviving you could probably drop a few from each squad and save enough points for something extra.
A bike and spell familiar for the sorcerer gives you the opportunity to speed around summoning daemons.
For you same points you could get a rhino for your cultists (obviously you'll have to split them into 2 squads of 10) to hide behind and ride in.
If you feel like you need more melta but don't want to drop those flamers then drop some of the autoguns and give the cultists flamers.
A Heldrake with a Baleflamer is always useful (assuming you can break open their transports before it arrives) as it only needs 2-3 turns of successful shooting against marines to earn its points back in kills.
>>47816705
I realised that my maths was wrong and its actually 2.8 wounds a turn from 3 missilesides and 12 sniper drones
the problem with getting AP2 weaponry is that i either end up only wounding on 6+ because of T8, or i'm only firing a single shot at S8 or S10 from broadsides/hammerheads
crunching the numbers, missilesides end up working the best average wounds and also the highest possible wounds, but they dont ignore the armor
Rolled 6, 2, 5, 8, 1, 9, 10, 8, 4, 8 = 61 (10d10)
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>>47815726
Use this to repel Nids. It may attract Dark Eldar, but on the plus side Chaos will think you're edgy.
>>47812391
The latest fluff downplays this entirely.
Ork tinkerers get all the credit now.
>>47816787
Magos, you better lay down the law on your forge world.
>>47812262
My body wants more 40k feet fetish stuff. Send help /tg/ send help
>>47816927
No. You don't get any.
>>47812391
I hate this, it's never worked like this.
An Ork can't pick up a stick and shoot bullets out of it, an ork can't sit on a wheel and have it fly through space.
The Ork Gestalt psychic entity makes tweaks and eases things along.
All Orks believe Red wunz go fasta, and as a result, Red vehicles go slightly faster based on this psychic will
Ork Reactors on their starships are poorly maintained but allow them to sail through space, coolant systems work despite no maintenance, the temperature stays just below meltdown level.
Ork guns that are rarely if ever maintained still bark out scores of rounds, despite the fact they should have jammed during the first shot.
>>47816938
but i think some thing is wrong with me man.
>>47814355
>if they changed names to let them copy right why did they change the names of elves from the unique copyrightable names they had in warhammer fantasy to uncopyrightable Aelves.
You've got that backwards buddy
Aelves is copyrightable
>>47816741
CSM is by far my favorite faction, everything from the lore to the models and conversion possibilities, making my own warband and so on. I want to field grimdark evil power armor dudes. But yeah, I will probably end up grabbing some daemons and renegade AM, just don't have the money nor my main army painted enough to justify it.
I'm not saying I want to field a horde, I just don't want to have 30 models at 1500 points because I played a few games like this in the beginning and it was shit.
>>47816955
Seek help.
>>47816979
thats what im doing. im trying to find solace in the degeneracy known as 4chan to hide me from my fetishes.
>>47816950
Isn't that because most orks are sane enough to know that sticks don't shoot bullets and tyres can't fly through space? The insane orks are the weirdboyz, who imagine crazy things like giant feet crushing the enemy and, thanks to their orky psychic abilities, actually cause giant feet to appear on the battlefield.
>>47816994
Just imagine this when you get turned on by feet.
>>47816104
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>>47816120
Who the fuck is the target audience for these?
does monster hunter affect gargantuan creatures? if not is there an alternative hunter that does?
>>47817018
on a completly non-feety note so i can think of something else. What is your favorite fluffy unit /tg/?
>>47816742
I could ditch the flamers for melta against certain opponents. Usually it feels like when I'm playing against the AM player, my uber weapons besides meltaguns feel useless and I wish I had more weak but cheap shots and templates, but then when when I play against marines my flamers are dildos and I wish everyone had plasma. Kinda hard to find a middle ground although maybe that's why everyone bitches about the CSM codex and there isn't one. I'm gonna make a new lists based on feedback ITT in and repost a bit later.
>>47817023
anything that affects monstrous creatures will affect gargants unless specified otherwise.
>>47817020
GW logic: the renegade boxes probably sold pretty well, therefore all boxes with 2 models will sell pretty well
its probably to get people started out with thier new flyer rules, even though the flyer rules are utter tripe and just slow the game down
Rolled 10, 2, 1, 3, 3, 9, 8, 6, 3, 8 = 53 (10d10)
>>47813003
rollin
>>47817027
the edgiest assault marines in the galaxy
their absurd points cost also means that nobody else will field them, thus allowing me to be a hipster snowflake
>>47815292
you can play them on their own.
they have a few formations you can take. Their codex also has a unique detatchment type for them that doesn't require a HQ.
>>47816546
there'sa whole bunch of options in fortifications.
Or renegade allies for a hydra.
>>47816566
>The problem is GW didn't translate this idea into their rules
they did. its why the helldrake has vectorstrike.
>>47817029
>Kinda hard to find a middle ground although maybe that's why everyone bitches about the CSM codex and there isn't one.
Yeah this is the truth. The Heldrake is a great example of this.
That Baleflamer is worth its weight in gold against 3+ armour saves but against 2+ its hopeless and against anything less its 170 points for for little more a single very mobile heavy flamer.
I think CSM work best with Daemon allies to make up for their short comings or at higher points where you can bring a Void Shield Generator and a Skyshield without sacrificing such a large chuck of your army to do so. and ensure your units last longer than theirs.
God Luck.
>>47816546
Yes but as a AF it does not have skyfire so you get two times the AA power form a Forgefiend outside of a dogfight, the problem is you get two or perhaps three dogfights per game, do you want a 170 point investment being able to use it's AA power which is piss poor, or do you go with the good old flamer.
My question, and I'm asking because I want to know, what can it do in a dogfight? Asuming you are going with the flamer option, can it really only do that one crappy hit or can it vector strike or something worthwhile?
>>47816566
Exactly! I was so hoping for something like the helicopter scene from reign of fire-ish rules for it in the dog fight since it was the perfect chance to do that.
If it can vector strike or something, I'm perfectly fine with +1 attacks it has as far as I can see, but if it is just one S7 hit in total it's not going to down shit.
>>47817020
Anyone who wants to buy one of those models but has some extra money on-hand. They're hoping people will see the boxes and think "Hey, it's only a little bit more and I get a whole extra model, plus some extra dice! I could use it for terrain or trade it to someone else!"
And there's always the slight chance that they'll hold onto the extra model, paint it up for fun, and be so enamored with it that they'll start another small army to use it in.
Never underestimate the power of something that's perceived as a bargain, even if you wouldn't otherwise be interested in the extras.
As a newish AM player I've only managed to get a hold of two Russ and a Chimera for armor but I have an assload of actual troops. 32 lasguns 7 sarges and vox, 4 of every special weapon and 6 heavy teams. Is there like a "sweet spot" for the amount of Guardsmen I should be fielding from 1000 to 1500pts or is there no such thing as too many?
Do we know the formation from the Millitarum tempestus box yet?
>>47816967
no its not. its just the old English spelling of Elves and wouldn't be any easier too copyright.
>>47817101
>they did
they didn't. vector strike does not simulate a giant rape bird grabbing a ship and breathing fire onto its cockpit until the inhabitants are dead then tearing the craft's wings off and throwing them at guardsmen for laughs. half the time it doesn't even do anything.
>>47817064
i personally like the kroot they look cool and are some of the worst units in the game i wonder how many groups of kroot i would need to actually do something in a game.
>>47817148
Also I'd love name suggestions for my company. All I've worked out is their rust red fatigue/slate grey armor scheme and the idea that they religiously polish their golden skulls and aquillas despite bring from a dusty mars-like garrison because they believe it brings them luck and favor from the Emperor. I washed the fuck out of their clothes and face a but made sure to make the eagles and bright, fresh, and gold as possible to contrast. "Emperors Shiny Eagles" unfortunately just doesn't roll off the tongue.
>>47817139
that and probably so they can sell potential customers on the self contained small game to get them hooked.
Its easier too get someone too buy the rest of an army than a new army.
>>47814621
Use Vallejo Cam. Orange Ochre to basecoat yellow areas, then paint them with a lighter yelow
>>47817195
They're not going to make it instant kill any flyer it moves over.
>>47817210
No, but it would be nice if it could actually assault them.
>>47817185
Yeah. Contents of the box. As long as the comissar is alive you can deepstrike the tempestus squad back to the table when it's killed.
>>47817212
D3 auto hits isn't bad, it would probably be worse off if it had to actually attack.
>>47817210
no shit. now take a deep breath and imagine a world where it's possible to design rules somewhere between "completely nonfunctional" and "OP as balls". you're living in that world.
vector strike atm is pretty much irrelevant. giving turkies *some* kind of actually good anti-air ability would be a nice, fluffy way to buff a codex in dire need of an update
>>47817187
Yes, it would. You clearly don't understand how copyright law works, that's okay, but stop acting like you do.
>CSM friend bring the Black Legion physical book
>Ask to borrow it, because I like the fluff and would like to have a small fluffy army
>Read about the Warbands
>Hounds of Abaddon
They have a very nice formation
>The Tormented
They have a terrible formation, but still, you can use them
>No Children of Torment
>No Sons of the Cyclops
>No Bringers of Decay
>No Oath-Broken (my favorites)
What the fuck is this shit?
>>47817227
Outside of the space marine flyers, D3 str 7 ap2 ignores cover hits are pretty damn decent. It wouldn't take much to get the heldrake into a better state
>>47817246
>somebody else like oath broken
there can only be one. time to die . . .
. . . kid
*unsheathes chainsword*
>>47817185
>>47817215
And the CSM one?
>>47817195
it's all tyranids get for similar actions too.
But really it can kill every flyer in the game in 1 attack, dice willing. It's plenty good enough too represent that
>>47817185
>>47817263
Yes.
Scions is cool.
You better forget about the CSM one. It's shit and it's boring.
>>47817000
His argument is shit if you ask me. It IS the same thing, they are bending reality to their own delusions. He just wants to force-feed that it isn't that powerful,
>>47816125
i hope the BA formation is good and even if its not its a great value for $85
>>47817291
*slow claps*
>>47817246
CSM has been weak for some time, anyway.
Now you need codex CSM, Black Legion or Crimson Slaughter, Chaos Daemons, and an Imperial Armor book to be competitive (and have dreadnoughts again).
What would a WAAC list for Orks look like?
>>47817300
I don't care about competitive, I know CSM suck.
But what the hell, this is lazy.
You can't talk about all the cool warbands in the Black Legion and then make formations for only two of them.
And one of them is Khorne, because they don't have enough already apparently.
>>47817275
But I want to know, I like to play shitty and boring CSM
>>47817263
Don't ask.
Rolled 5, 1, 2, 8, 9, 10, 9, 4, 4, 1 = 53 (10d10)
>>47816787
>>47817291
Fucking 4chanX renamed the email field and threw me off, I'm a donut.
>>47817324
Suit yourself
>>47817245
if Elf is copyrightable why would they have changed the names.
especially consideringthat they had easy to use unique names in Druichii or Asur but ditched them for generic Aelf.
>>47817310
mek
grots
grots
tankbustas in a trukk
tankbustas in a trukk
tankbustas in a trukk
bikes
bikes
bikes
mek gunz
mek gunz
mek gunz
>>47817348
Can a tankbusta nob take a Power Klaw? Says he has access to the melee weapon list but he has no weapon to switch out.
>>47817387
RAW? No, because he has no weapon to switch.
RAI most people would assume you can just buy a klaw for 25 points, either way you don't want your tank bustas charging in to combat so a klaw is a waste of points.
>>47817341
omg gw really hates chaos, it is worse than i expected
>>47817341
>Wrathborn
GW please stop your janitor-grade writers coming up with names for things. Nobody likes verbnouns and verbverbs. It sounds tacky as fuck.
>>47816104
As someone who plays CSM and BA, I might be the only real market for this noise.
bought pliers today. Gonna try asembling my first models today. Wish me luck because I am clumsy as fuck and literally left handed
>>47817409
It was funny at first but this is past just rubbing salt in the wound. Its like some at GW has serious prejudiced against CSM and 'nids.
>>47817409
It's because of 3.5 Iron Warriors. But in all honesty 3.5 CSM wouldn't be as bad compared to all the stuff we have now.
>>47817482
I think this is a joke that has gone on for far too long.
>>47817465
just a tip, when clipping bits off the sprue hold the part while you do it so it doesn't go flying off too vanish.
>>47817454
It's great for me Orkz though
>killa kanz
>tankbustas
>deff dreads
>>47817510
good tip,thanks.
already nearly lost one helm. I was not expecting this shit to be so small.Guess I picked race with smallest models or something
>>47817482
I only play CSM and nids.
>>47817344
>if Elf is copyrightable why would they have changed the names.
Because it's not.
>especially consideringthat they had easy to use unique names in Druichii or Asur but ditched them for generic Aelf.
Because Aelf is more recognizable.
Why is this hard for you? Elf is a common term. Aelf is not.
>>47817139
Am I blind? Where does it say the price on these?
>>47817563
>Aelf is not.
It is. Maybe the younger kids in UK who play 40k don't know aelf, but in USA the demographic for wargames seems to be college age and older. Most US players are familiar enough with fantasy to have seen aelf plenty of times, from various novels and old D&D modules at the very least.
>>47812391Yarrick
How would you homebrew a Tau sniper HQ?
A Commander with special rules and a long range gun, or a footsoldier with force multiplier sniper abilities?
Something like a Cadre Fireblade who replaces his extra shot rule with a rule that makes Pulse Rifles 48" Sniper might be fun, but I also kinda want pic related.
>>47814621
In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only Gunther.
>>47817590
Bottom right corner of each picture. (The tau/necron one is too blurry, but it seems they're all the same price.)
>>47817679
Isn't that exactly what Darkstrider is?
>>47817619
Google Aelf.
It's not a common term. It's not in frequent modern use. There's no competitive product with a history of using it. In fact, it looks like the ONLY modern use of the word is as in the title of a single series of novels ("Aelf Fen mystery") that don't seem to have been particularly popular.
>>47817709
Darkstrider has a pulse carbine.
His effect makes the enemy count as -1 toughness, which is certainly nice, but not related to what I want.
Also, he can only attach to firewarriors and pathfinders, it's not like you can stick him in a squad of sniper drones (not that he'd have any effect on S:X guns).
>>47817332
>boyz
>Deff rollas
>effective
>this edition
Try zagstrukk, a billion bikers and maxed out tankbustas in trukks.
Did Forgeworld discontinue the Sonic Dreadnought?
Is there any way of getting the bits in less savory ways?
Say from china?
>>47817679
>commander with long range gun
Ra'lai already exist to do that and also be anti tank and anti horde
buffmander already exists to attach to a sniper drone squad and then murder thier firesight marksmen, or do the same to a crisis/riptide squad
ethereal exists to give drone snipers 2 more markerlights, FNP and firestorm aswell
>>47817703
So $100 USD?
Who's gonna buy a flyer for another faction because the bundle is $100 instead of $120?
If the kit was $80, or lower, maybe. At that point you're getting both flyers half off. But why would I spend $50 on a flyer for a faction I don't play just to get $10 off the flyer I do want?
>>47817541
who did you pick?
>>47817803
>Ra'lai already exist to do that and also be anti tank and anti horde
I had no idea what that model did. I'll look it up now.
>buffmander already exists to attach to a sniper drone squad and then murder thier firesight marksmen, or do the same to a crisis/riptide squad
Sniper drones still suck, though, even with a buffmander. Or, they're far to mediocre to warrant the marginal benefits they gain from the substantial points investment and opportunity cost.
Crisis Suits don't have a sniper gun. Riptides are lame.
>ethereal exists to give drone snipers 2 more markerlights, FNP and firestorm aswell
Throwing buckets of dice at targets within 24" is a really crappy way to make "snipers" good...
>>47817679
>>47817753
>Tau have a sniper special character
>HIS GUN ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH
>Tau have a drone that increases the range of pulse weapons
>NOT GOOD ENOUGH IT SHOULD DOUBLE THEIR RANGE AND GIVE THEM SNIPER
>Tau have a support system that gives any battlesuit Precision Shots (on a 5 or 6 if you put it on a commander)
>NOT WHAT I'M AFTER
There are multiple tools in your codex that do what you want, but you want to homebrew something even more powerful. Tell you what taucunt, you homebrew a sniper with a bigger gun and extra abilities for their unit to buff your top-tier army, and I'll be sure not to play against it.
>>47817731
it's not in that common use now. But it's the archaic spellingof a very comonly used word. It'd be like trying too copyright Ye
>>47817845
Dark Eldar.
I cant really pick faction. I kinda like CSM but I detest dumb cartoon evil
>>47817731
nigger are you really going to argue this with me? ask me how I know you're underage.
just because you're shit at googling doesn't mean you're correct. "aelf" as a term for elves was/is quite common and has appeared in shannara, a lot of old doubleday stuff from from the 70s, and even D&D, pic fucking related
now as to whether most 40k players in 2016 know this, I'm not so sure, but saying "aelf" isn't a trope of speculative fiction, just nah, you're talking about shit you don't know about.
Okay, I really like the idea behind this game and the lore, but no-one, NO-ONE, in their right mind would seriously pay hundreds of dollars for tiny models and books to play an imaginary game. No offence to the people who do buy all that stuff, that's what they love. I just love having money to go travelling Europe with my friends more.
Like yeah, I get that work goes into making this stuff and the books have nice drawings or whatever, but I'm never going to pay money to play something that is done essential through means of imagination.
I feel the same way about Magic: The Gathering cards, so I just downloaded a free program that visually represents all the cards with actual real images, and has a built-in rule system.
Is there anything like that for 40K yet? I hear tabletop simulator has something rudimentary. I took a look at it and it doesn't look very good. 40k Final Liberation was an excellent old-school adaptation, there doesn't seem to be anything to fill its place.
>>47817889
eh. pretty much everyone is that small.
>>47816950
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>>47812505
Wasn't there a story about an ork machinegunner that pinned an IG squad for about a whole hour and, when they killed him, discovered that his gun had to trigger and no link mechanism?
So, in essence, his gun was a fucking pipe.
>>47817869
>I had no idea what that model did. I'll look it up now.
WS4 BS5 S3 T5 W4 I4 A4 Ld10, 3+/4++ (3++ vs shots 12" or more away) comes with VRT and drone controller
its gun has 4 modes
24" S5 AP6 large blast ignore cover
24" Haywire Assault 2 gets hot
24" S4 AP4 Assault 2 large blast rending gets hot
36" S9 AP3 assault 2 gets hot
he cant join any unit, but he comes with 2 unique markerlight drones that have blacksun filters
>Crisis Suits don't have a sniper gun
missle pods, just fucking stick a sniperrifle to them and use the stats of missile pods, alternatively replace with broadsides
>Throwing buckets of dice at targets within 24" is a really crappy way to make "snipers" good...
throwing buckets of dice at any target from a single squad is one thing tau can do well, i have a pathfinder squad that is ludicroisly hard to be assaulted and throws out 80 something carbine shots at S6
I just reinstalled Dawn of War.
It's not even a bad looking game. It aged pretty nicely 2bh guys
>>47817939
which one? Soulstorm is crashing on my w7.
>>47817948
Base game for now. Gotta find the expansion disks.
>>47817897
Yes, coming into a wargaming thread and telling everyone how silly they are for spending time and money on wargaming will surely go down well. We're all in awe of the fact you go travelling and have actual real-life friends. Please tell us how to be as cool as you.
>>47817897
if you don't like the models I wouldn't bother. The game itself is mediocre and only worth it for the setting and minis.
New Deldar dex when?
>>47817897
>no offence to eveyone in this thread but no-one in their right mind would spend money on things they like
>>47817875
>Tau have a sniper special character
>HIS GUN ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH
.... his gun is fucking 18" range. He's not a sniper character at all.
>Tau have a drone that increases the range of pulse weapons
>NOT GOOD ENOUGH IT SHOULD DOUBLE THEIR RANGE AND GIVE THEM SNIPER
Nobody mentioned that drone, but it's only available to Pathfinders, and adding flat 6" range is a shit way to make a unit more snipery. That's GW-tier fluff balancing.
For the rest: 48" is not double 30". Secondly, trading Rapid Fire and S5 for Sniper is probably not even worth the extra 18", but even if it is, it's literally the first idea I came up with offhand while asking for homebrew suggestions.
>Tau have a support system that gives any battlesuit Precision Shots (on a 5 or 6 if you put it on a commander)
>NOT WHAT I'M AFTER
Precision shots are a start, but Crisis Suits don't have long range guns.
>There are multiple tools in your codex that do what you want, but you want to homebrew something even more powerful.
No, there are no tools in my codex to do what I want, and I'm not sure why you think you're in a position to tell me what it is that I want. I don't want something more powerful, I want something more specific. Giving Pathfinder guns +6" or Crisis Suits precision shots on their medium range guns makes them objectively better, but doesn't make them more snipery, and doesn't make them more fun.
>Tell you what taucunt, you homebrew a sniper with a bigger gun and extra abilities for their unit to buff your top-tier army, and I'll be sure not to play against it.
Did a Tau player rape your mom? The fuck is wrong with wanting to homebrew something cool that my army doesn't currently offer? Even if you think my one offhand suggestion was somehow ridiculously OP, the entire fucking reason I posted it was asking for input.
>>47816579
Why the psyker? Seems like he doesn't really have anything worth using his powers on, since there are no special weapons.
I like what you're going for, but the CAD just seems to have very little purpose. The spread of tank functions is nice, I don't really rate Pask-less punishers, but with 3 heavy bolters it throws out enough S5 to do damage.
>>47817935
>36" S9 AP3 assault 2 gets hot
That's definitely approaching something I'd like.
>Crisis Suits don't have a sniper gun
>missle pods, just fucking stick a sniperrifle to them and use the stats of missile pods,
36" is still kinda lackluster for what I want to be a badass sniper, and two shots is kinda weird.
>throwing buckets of dice at any target from a single squad is one thing tau can do well, i have a pathfinder squad that is ludicroisly hard to be assaulted and throws out 80 something carbine shots at S6
It's not about how *good* it is, it's just not what I want.
Why are people allergic to homebrew?
>>47818028
>Did a Tau player rape your mom? The fuck is wrong with wanting to homebrew something cool that my army doesn't currently offer? Even if you think my one offhand suggestion was somehow ridiculously OP, the entire fucking reason I posted it was asking for input.
because what you want already exists in other units (and with ra'lai, even in the HQ slot) and that isnt enough for you
whats worse you are asking for this in the most versatile and customisable army in the entire game
What's the most bullshit superweapon in 40k fluff?
It used to be the celestial orrery, but that seems pretty tame now; tau blow up suns by accident, dark eldar steal them, the admech can set fire to whole fucking nebulas and now even the orks have (or at least had at one point) deathstars that move through the webway and ships that can collapse stars.
>>47817789
China or make your own.
>>47818098
A complete c'tan.
>>47818099
I'm not skilled enough to make my own.
I'm also not sure where to look for the chinese ones, maybe someone could point me in the right direction?
>>47817993
It just seems like a massive waste of money, I'm just being straight up honest with you. It's 2016, all of this material could be computerized in a year with enough effort.
I get that it's nice to have the models and books because they're more tangible, but those things cost a lot of money when they add up.
>>47818053
>36" is still kinda lackluster
>Why are people allergic to homebrew?
that above comment is why, you want to make a HQ that already has multi wounds, high ld and special rules more than 36" inch range
Ra'lai is the most powerful HQ unit in the tau army and he is "approaching" something you like, not only does he have double the initiative of other tau models (bar drones and vespid) for getting out of assaults, for the extremely low cost of 190 points he is good against EVERY unit he could possibly come across, from AV14 to hordes and everything in between, all while having a 3+ invuln save
the only more tanky HQ than him is aun'va who has an invuln save, FNP and then another invuln save that makes him literally immune to AP1 weapons
People dont like homebrew tau because they dont realise how insane thier codex is and then try to make thier homebrew unit slightly better than what is in there already
>>47818125
>It just seems like a massive waste of money
I think football as a sport is a waste of money, but i dont go into a football thread telling people they are out of thier minds paying a few hundred pounds on season tickets for something they can watch on tv
>all of this material could be computerized in a year with enough effort.
It already is, however many people enjoy playing with an army they hand painted and spend hours chilling and painting them to a level that they can be proud of
all hobbies and games cost money, my pc and games cost far far more than my army does, my yearly medical bills cost more than my army ever will
>>47818082
>because what you want already exists in other units (and with ra'lai, even in the HQ slot) and that isnt enough for you
Except it doesn't. You're deciding that it does, based on whatever it is you think I want. Longer range Pathfinders and 36" S9 don't scratch my itch.
>whats worse you are asking for this in the most versatile and customisable army in the entire game
Dude, seriously, you've got a fucking complex.
Tau are a versatile and customizable army, so homebrew isn't allowed, and neither is wanting something it doesn't offer? What if I wanted to homebrew a fragile light tank without DPods, since Tau have nothing between Piranha and Hammerheads, is that not allowed because Tau are so versatile? What if I wanted to homebrew an open topped transport? Or a new auxillary? Tau have too many options, so I'm not allowed to want to homebrew anything else?
>>47817897
what an awful fucking post
>>47818125
How do you computerize hand-paining? conversions? the feel of a model in your hand?
>>47818132
I don't want R'alai with longer range. I want a homebrew unit that actually does the things I want.
I don't care about his initiative. I don't care about his tankiness. I do care about his range. That's why I said it was lackluster.
I'm not asking for ideas on how to homebrew a T10 2+/2++/2+ FNP unit with a 120" S:D gun. I'm trying to scratch a specific itch, people are suggesting existing things that don't, and then acting like I'm a monster for wanting to make things that don't already exist because the existing things are good.
>>47818119
>point me in the right direction
I'm afraid I can't, even for a Slaaneshi Brother.
You'll have to discover it yourself.
It's not hard, but you have to lurk.
>>47818163
>. Longer range Pathfinders and 36" S9 don't scratch my itch.
so you admit you want something that would probably be universally agreed to be overpowered, even by tau standard
> What if I wanted to homebrew a fragile light tank without DPods, since Tau have nothing between Piranha and Hammerheads
Tetras, Remoras, SMS devilfish
>What if I wanted to homebrew an open topped transport
essentially a faster fortification, because they can move
>Or a new auxillary
allied detatchment
people dont like homebrews of tier 1 codexes because the person homebrewing them very rarely has any context of stats outside his own codex, which inevitably leads to them being broken as fuck
>>47818192
>I'm not asking for ideas on how to homebrew a T10 2+/2++/2+ FNP unit with a 120" S:D gun. I'm trying to scratch a specific itch
you havn't told us any details about this itch outside of "that S9 AP3 36" range gun isnt good enough
>>47818161
I don't go into football threads to do that either, because it's fairly easy to get a computer game that simulates it fairly well. And hell, playing football doesn't cost that much when I actually want to play the real thing.
Again, the way you spend your money to have a good time is entirely your business, and that's fine. Some people like to spend a lot of money on models and rulebooks, some people like to spend a lot of money on travelling and educating themselves.
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>>47816125
>No Valkryie box for IG.
>>47817261
I also like oath-broken.
Fight me.
>>47818219
>you havn't told us any details about this itch outside of "that S9 AP3 36" range gun isnt good enough
Because I got to make two posts before you came in with your massive Tau hateboner and decided no Tau player is ever allowed to homebrew anything nor want units with a different playstyle than the existing ones, and furthermore decided that you know what I want better than I do (which you continue to do even in this post).
>>47818242
I'm hoping it's a Valkyrie versus one of the Tyranid flyers.
That way I'd have an excuse for starting Tyranids.
>>47818098
No it's still the fucking orrery.
The ability to destroy any star in the galaxy by pinching your fingers in a glorified holodeck is the most broken weapon.
>>47818281
You want a railside.
Why are you overcomplicating this.
>>47818281
1: i'm not the person you were talking to originally
2: i am a tau player
3: i've fought against a few tau and eldar homebrews, they always end up making thier points back from thier range/damage/etc being higher than normal or they die instantly and the other guy gets pissed, generally the former
Its hard to know what you want because YOU WONT FUCKING TELL US and when we try to use context of "that range isnt good enough" coupled with past experience, the only thing i can assume isthat you want to make a powerful homebrew HQ
if you want a badass sniper, use an allied detatchment with a vindicare assassin, call him Shas'O'vindicare
>>47818316
that and you can easily destroy several stars at once.
Other star destroyers have been one at a time with a lot more effort.
>>47818281
Broadside with Twin-linked Heavy Rail Rifle with Advanced Targeting System subsystem.
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>>47816113
>Who the fuck is the target audience for these?
Well me for one, I can get a full Air Armada for my boys, a Crimson Death for my panzies and two spare Crimson Hunters to trade/sell.
>>47818386
God forbid he could have worked this out by reading his own codex.
>>47818327
Not him, but also an allied detachment of Eldar with Rangers and either an Autarch with the Uldanorethi Long Rifle or Illic Nightspear for an HQ.
(Use their rules, but sub-in your own kitbashed Tau models)
There are offical rules out there for what you want, why do you have to homebrew what you want. Just dig a little deeper.
Got my first Basilisk in the mail yesterday. looking forward to running it.
I also magnetized it so the gun deck can be pulled off, which helps with storage and also allows me to use it as a Heavy Artillery Carriage, which is spiffin'.
>>47818450
Try running it at as a medusa and see how you feel about that artillery piece
>>47818441
you replied to the wrong person mate
but yeah that would work evenbetter than the vindicare, it would be used under allies of convinence instead of desperate allies
>>47812692
Except an empty dinner plate, and maybe each other.
>>47818427
fuck off shitposter.
>>47818545
If it's a choice between shitposts and spoonfeeding...
>>47818466
I like the medusa, too, but the range and need for direct fire bothers me. Usually one should have assault guns be armored enough to withstand return fire, like the Demolisher or the Thunderer (I've got one of those coming up on the chopping block too; converting a Leman Russ Demolisher hull).
Basically, anything a Medusa SHOULD be firing at will be able to fire BACK pretty soon, and the Medusa won't survive the reprisal. It can't really hide in a corner.
>>47818566
And you would rather have shitposting?
Epic, simply epic.
>>47818609
>on 4chan
>doesnt like shitposting
>>47817977
Not til 8e minimum
>>47818584
the carriage version behind a defense line is decently surviveable with T7 4 wounds 3+ save and 4+ cover.
>>47818125
You're a fucking retard, consider suicide
>>47818609
If that was the threshold of shitposting, yeah.
People should be told to google, read their codex and apply themselves more.
What's the typical size of a Tau Hunting Contingent (not Cadre) according to the fluff? How many soldiers?
>>47818645
Not him but that can describe me perfectly. Just because you're on 4chan doesn't mean you have make inane drivel just for the sake of posting inane drivel and to bother someone.
>>47818676
>31 riptides
>12 Stormsurges
>192 Suits
>12 Ta'unarsper squad
>>47818676
Three to six cadres. Around the size of an IG Regiment. It always includes at least one Ethereal.
>>47818658
Yeah, but that one's immobile, so it can be outranged. To be fair, with a three foot range it can cover about 2/3rds of the board if you place it right, but enemy batteries (there's a surplus of thunderfire cannons in my local meta) will outrange you and give you a lot of trouble.
And if you use Bastion-Breacher shells to get more range, you lose blast radius. In short, I feel like the Medusa is over-specialized for what it brings to the table, and the job it does can be covered by more durable units.
Not to mention the model is pricey as all hell.
new thread
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>>47818752
Hey guys, I'd like to homebrew a tau sniper.
Now I know tau already have snipers, but I want a special sniper.
Yes I know tau have poor eyesight and rely on their technology to effectively use their weapons.
Yes I know said technology is represented in-game through army-wide special rules and unit upgrades that enable even my most basic troop to achieve feats which rival other faction's dedicated sniper specialists.
But I want a special sniper that is the best at sniping.
How do I do that.
>>47818770
Take a Vindicare
>>47818809
Nooo I want a tauuuuu.
>>47818868
Then kitbash a model, bring him as a Vindicare and have him sit somewhere out of the way.
Seriously, if you're thinking that you're going to get a dedicated sniper unit and then give him markerlight buffs and other Tau bullshit ON TOP of that, you need to rethink your place in the meta.
Bike Sammael gets to shoot all of his guns?
Can't you wait until the next thread to ask the same lousy question?
>>47816885
Holy shit thats just evil. I wouldn't want this on any living thing.
>>47818907
Read back up the thread and see how obvious the satire is.
>>47819923
We believe that pic is a fragment of SCP-162, small enough that it loses the drawing effect.
http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-162
>>47818646
8e when
>>47818316
why dont necrons use it to just kill anyone?
>>47816133
>Falling for the Timmy trap
>>47814355
You misunderstand. Aelves is copyrightable in the modelling world. There is no, or very few, Aelves models. As in "Aelf Swordsman" or whatever sold by Literally Who Miniatures.
There is, however, lots of "Wood Elf/High Elf/Dark Elf Swordsman" figures. The Judge said that the term "Elf" was in public use and thus not copyrightable, got a problem with this? Argue with the judge. You cannot copy names which are in common use. Just like Donald Trump could not copyright "You're Fired". Aelves, in the eyes of the legal team, is not a common enough usage of the word.
Just because YOU and other people know of it's existence, is totally irrelevant. The common usage spelling of the world aelf, is elf. So elf/elves is a common usage word, thus not copyrightable. Aelves, while an existing word, is NOT common usage, thus IS copyrightable.
Got it?
Seraphon is used by furfag tickle torture fetishfags, but guess fucking what? It isn't common usage, thus it can be copyrighted.
>>47814986
No one? I've asked the same question in WIP and also gotten no response. Does no one play GK or do they never use Librarians or do they just use the normal smurf model?
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