From an in-universe standpoint how did battle bikinis and combat swimsuits come about?
fat chicks and tumblr wasn't invented
>>47641302
space activity suits, enchanters are perverts, magic is tied to charisma, the magical material is hella expensive by the ounce, and/or that's just the fashion in this setting.
In one of my settings (a Wild West kind of thing) there battle bikinis because
1. No dress order
2. No bulletproofs clothing
3. To hot for Armor
>>47641302
Cause you can enchant a suit of full plate to look like anything you want and nobody's going to argue with the chick who can lop an entire small town's heads off in 6 seconds with a wooden spoon
In the Scarred Lands, arcane spellcasting gives off heat. Wizards and sorcerers have to dress to accommodate that fact. Some put up with it, others go for it.
>>47641302
My fantasy setting's got some combatkinis and such, I justified it in a couple ways:
1. It's fucking hot on [Continent]
2. The race that rocks them doesn't rely on them to protect shit, they use magical wards and charms for protection. The showy armor is to add an air of wealth, health, and beauty to the capital city.
3. When it's happening, they trade in the decorative gear for tank-tier full plate and bigass shields on top of the magical wards.
>>47641302
Just look at how other weeaboos try to justify their fetishes in-universe and copy their arguments. It works on everything from catgirls and battle-maids to every flavor of (insert degenerate) fetish imagineable. Surely it can accomodate battle bikinis as well.
>>47641302
>From an in-universe standpoint how did battle bikinis and combat swimsuits come about?
They didn't.
>>47641400
Add a guise of the Thespian and you can have a massive male fighter in a suit of full plate +10 with a double-handed magical sword disguised as a milkmaid in a dress, carrying a pail.
>>47641312
FPBP
>>47641302
>Amazon tribal warriors prided themselves in their habit of going into battle naked with only warpaint to cover their skin around their breasts and privates to symbolise their dedication to the mothergoddess. Over time, as the Amazon tribes were exposed to other cultures who practiced large scale metalcrafting, the wealthier individuals would transport the ancient warpaint in fashionable metalwear to show their social standing.
>Because the amazon martial arts revolve around blocking with shield or reinforced vambraces for defense and fighting in individual melees, the protection of the torso was given less attention especially due to the fact that amazons preferred to fight enemies in battlefield conditions that saw them less exposed, like open fields, and where they could quickly close in to melee and throw the enemy into unorganised brawls.
>Simultaneously did the Drow gladiatrices choose their garment in such ways as to flaunt their bodies in mockery of their enemies, both in the arena and on the battlefield. Such couture was adapted by high-ranking officers who would compensate their lack of physical armour by protective spells imbued in their clothing.
>Other civilisations adapted elements of either origin, but in flawed translations, missing out on details and thus simply crafting overly exposing protective gear unfit for the martial situations of these cultures.
>As such, the often called lingerie-armour has become a staple in stageplays for female characters, and its viability in combat is higly debated by scholars in the ivory tower, next to thr discussion of far-eastern handpuppet displays.
>>47641302
Magical effects tend to cling to things are not alive, as living things all have innate magical resistance.
The strength of the magical resistance depends on the magical power of the individual, so more powerful casters tend to forego mundane physical protection as that can be supplemented by spells and enchantments. Individuals weak in magic have little to lose and much to gain from wearing actual armor.
As skimpy clothing is a symbol of power and confidence in magic, and magic users are greatly valued and respected, even mundane folks have started copying their manner of dress without even knowing the reason behind it.
>>47641302
Magical armor feeds on the wearer's power to fuel his enchantments. Wizards tried to find ways to reduce the power drain so that they could put on stronger and stronger enhcantments. After many hundreds of years of reasearch and improving they discovered that reducing the surface area in contact with the armor the strenght of the enchantments didn't dropped much at all while the power consumption was greatly reduced thus making magical armor in bikini form much more efficent and less excerting for the wearer than a classical full plate or chainmail.
>>47641383
>>47641424
>>47641449
>It's hot
While I'm not disputing that the stereotypical set of plate armor with its poor circulation would be climate inappropriate let me launch a question:
Wouldn't loose clothing be superior to a bikini in that context due to the insulation provided in addition to proper circulation?
I also remember reading on /tg/ (completely unsourced so no idea how bullshit it is) that loosely covered chainmaille had an effect like a radiator, allowing heat to be transported away from the wearer.
I could see that working due to the high surface area as well as how easily steel transfers heat but I'm not entirely certain.
I also realize that I'm bullshitting about realism in a fantasy bikini armor thread.
"It's fashion" is the easiest answer. People only started wearing lots of covering clothing because of fashion trends instigated by religion in the real world. Back in the ancient world chicks walked around with their tits out no problem. Had history gone different we'd have this going today too.
>>47641616
Which is why history sucks, fucking religion ruining all the good parts about life.
>>47641602
I guess that humidity is also a inportant factor. But in a desert you would be right about covered thing.
>>47641626
Ylu do understand that under those circumstances you wouldn't have a tiddy fetish most probably, because it isn't taboo to have them out? You'd just look at them like abs, I guess.
>>47641696
Same with feet. Feet only became a fetish because people started wearing shoes everywhere in the 19th/20th century.
>>47641616
>Back in the ancient world chicks walked around with their tits out no problem.
Not all the time or everywhere. Minoan cultures, sure.
>>47641696
Abs are arousing, though, just like tits are for heterosexual men/homosexual women.
The formerly great civilizations of the world have gone into decline and are becoming deeply obsessed with fashion, decadence and games. As a result they adopt clothing and even armor and weapon styles from "exotic" cultures that they have discovered or conquered. It is not uncommon to see noblewomen and men dressed in expertly tailored "savage" outfits right in the capital, and many adventurers and militaries have followed suit.
The only excuse would be lack of material.
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>>47641302
1. Women are attention whores, as demonstrated in the real world.
2. When liberated from the restrictions men impose on them, women will act like sluts. This too is demonstrated in the real world.
Put those two together and you understand why bikini armor exists. The only objection is that it's no good at keeping you alive, but that point becomes moot in a world of magic where even a fucking RING can give you the benefit of wearing full plate armor.
When you want to understand women, you need to understand their nature: irrational and constantly seeking approval.
>>47641696Well-trained abs are my fetish. What now, champ?
>validate your fetish, the thread
>>47641302
The only logical answer is that armour itself doesn't do anything, so you just wear it to look cool.
>>47641803
>RING can give you the benefit of wearing full plate armor.
I don't get where people get this shit from.
Ring can give you a benefit of an armor, but ring plus armor will be even better.
All I am saying is that when I play a wizard that actually wants to survive I will cheese in as many armor pieces and magical clothing and trinkets as I can.
If game allows me to enchant heavy armor to be super light and wearable I will wear it too.
>>47641948
I can't think of a single setting where this is true
>>47641302
In many settings adventures roam from town to town taking on (mostly violent) odd jobs.
When ever they arrive in a new town they need to convince people that their services are worth paying for. This is especially true for settings in which wandering bands of mercenaries are common place and probably compete for work.
So they need to get noticed and they need to convince people that they're good at their jobs.
Bikini armor does both of these things.
It grabs attention, especially in the pseudo-medieval settings you often see them in.
It also demonstrates competence. Either this person is so skillful they don't need conventional armor or they've been so successful they can afford armor that is effective even in such an impractical form (presumably because it is heavily enchanted or made from exotic materials).
This reasoning also works equally well for cool-but-impractical armors other than bikini armor.
If you're dealing with a low magic setting it can just be advertising - people change into more conventional armor once they're been hired for a job.
Alternatively you could not bother justifying it because people are either fine with it and don't mind/enjoy it being there or they aren't fine with it and will probably never be convinced by your justifications.
It's okay to have a setting that doesn't appeal to everyone.
>>47641302
It looks good.
/tg/ has this weird idea that people before the modern era were always reasonable and 100% practical in everything they did, but there are examples of people sacrificing practicality for fashion (like Napoleonic era marines starching their collars so stiff you couldn't turn your neck in one without snapping it).
So really it's only a question of whether your medieval* fantasy setting is sexually liberated enough to find bikinis desirable.
>>47642032
The thing about magic is, it can have all sorts of rules and necessary conditions that don't have to make any sense at all. Because magic. "This ring gives the protection of full plate, but only while the user is naked and bodypainted bright purple" is perfectly possible.
>>47641302
The magic of those suits is powered by erections.
>>47642060
>people change into more conventional armor once they're been hired for a job.
>small town in need of someone to scare off some bandits
>radiant figure rides into town on a towering white steed
>tall, ravishing blonde female paladin whose body is only barely contained in a skimpy ornate suit of armor
>high heeled boots, fluttering cape, top showing off an acre of cleavage
>smiles kindly and inquires with the mayor about the trouble
>everyone falls in love
>she gets hired
>excuses herself and says she has to do something before she sets out
>walks into the inn and borrows a room
>several people follow to spy from various peepholes in the ceiling, floor and walls
>paladin walks into room, sighs deeply and drops pack on the bed
>begins unclasping her armor
>spies are horrified as they watch her take her top off, which takes most of her tits with it
>turns out they were flesh-colored breast forms covering a pair of b-cups
>paladin groans as she unclasps a flesh-colored realistic corset, her real waist is twice as thick
>peels off the fake pointed nails revealing unmanicured, unpainted ones
>pulls off her long golden wig revealing a crew cut of short spiky brown hair
>visible line around her face after the wig is removed
>she peels off her face mask, flopping it on the floor
>actual face is plain with several scars
>she lets out a loud burp and picks out a dirty, dinged suit of armor from her pack which she dons
>slaps a bucket helmet on and swings her notched sword a few times
>Right then, time to go to work!
>>47642121
As I said I don't know any existing table top setting where this is true.
>>47641302
Women. Men don`t usually invent this stuff, but they certainly applaud it.
Those who come up with these things are women who want to show off their bodies. Yes, 'somewhat to men, but mostly to other women. >"I can look good in this"
>"you couldn't hope to avoid being mocked if we can see your chubby thighs brushing together every step"
>"I guess THIS would just *hang loosely* off your flatty chest"
>"MY bikini line is actually a line, not the deep jungle"
All of those skimpy outfits, those form-fitting dresses, all that is literally our equivalent to boasting who has the better car, the bigger dick, the higher BAB, the bigger deadlift and so on.
Women look at other women and think "I can look fucking hot in this, and you're going to hide cuz you're a goddamn cow".
When you suddenly throw in magic, psychic powers and supernatural toughness for a fantasy setting?
The ability to fully enter combat reliant on your own abilities while still showing total confidence as a woman; it's only natural those with the power to do so will often choose just that.
>>47642032
>Ring can give you a benefit of an armor, but ring plus armor will be even better.
Considering that they give you an armor AC bonus, at least in 3.5e if I remember correctly (or maybe it was some other item? Vambraces or something?) they don't stack with full plate.
>>47642121
>>47641302
Because in D&D you can wear magical rings that are just as good if not better then mundane armor, so there's no reason to give a fuck.
>>47642276
Wow.
You wouldn't happen to work at a walmart in Burlington would you?
I think I heard most of those quotes last week.
>>47641302
don't justify it
the more you try to justify it the more we can pick holes in your broken logic
Bikini armor and hot sexy clothes come naturally to societies that have purged themselves of SJW filth
>>47642276
A natural and popular form of female spell is "put a few subtle pounds on that bitch"
>>47642378
Yeah, let's just have a look at the middle-east...
>>47642424
To be fair, while it's the uh... opposite crowd from the usual western SJWs, you could easily say the middle-east is full of a certain kind of SJW.
Just that the social justice they're after is for old gay priests who want no one else to be allowed to have fun, especially not those icky girls.
>>47642424
they both share the premise that women are constantly victims and men are constantly opressors.
>>47642480
>t. I have literally no idea what the fuck I'm talking about
It annoys me that a lot of the time these "swimsuit armors" aren't even meant to be armor at all. They're clearly just clothes worn by spellcasters or other non-armor wearers
>>47641302
Because the barbarian's armor is weaker than her skin, so she chooses the lightest clothing that also draws away attention from her vitals.
>>47642424
SJW is also a puritan cult.
>>47642681
The reason why they cover up their women or don't let them go outside without male supervision is because they can't trust other men to behave like a civil human being. So in a sense he's right.
>>47641302
Gladiators. They still dress like that even today.
>>47642424
Someone already mentioned, sensible clothing in the desert involves a lot of light, loose fabric.
As far as culture, SJW is just the latest secular incarnation of the old Puritan religious impulse, no matter what they pretend. Do what we say to be one of the Righteous.
>>47642712
>I still have no idea what I'm saying
Are you some /v/ escapee who thought the tracer pinup pose was some kind of majestic btfoing of sjws even though most sjws nodded in approval because they unlike you have an inkling of what it means.
Most sjws are for sex worker rights.
>>47642158
>>47642737
>Still talking out of my ass
Every SJW will tell you about the same thing; sexualization isn't a problem if it's equal and if it's not the only option.
>>47642768
That is the definition of anti-sexy anon. Why would you get a boner
>>47641302
The gods are of the Greco-Roman variety, and the god of Forging is a massive pervert. He hands out random divine boons depending on how "artfully" and "beautifully" his warriors fight. (Read: god loves sluts).
>>47642748
And?
If your group exists under the idea that banning things is good, and at any point you defend a portrayal of the human body is bad because it shows too much skin then yeah, you are a puritan cult.
>muh /v/
Stop defending your antiprogress cult, you need to be really retarded to actually be into what basically amounts to the left's "Whiny Angry NoFunAllowed" section.
>but they defend sex worker rights
And here they also attack relationships with uneven ages or interracial relationships (because they are a form of racism, I still don't get it).
They will openly call a chick a slut as long as she disagrees with then.
They are literally ban-happy ideologically brain dead abortions, who are against sexual things if it's on stuff they aren't personally into.
So puritanistic pieces of garbage
>>47642792
This sounds likely.
>>47642780
>Why would you get a boner
Where do you think you are?
>>47641302
They weren't. Because they're stupid
What actually happened was a thousand years ago, queens and princesses had these commissioned for a bit of roleplaying in bed, the empire collapsed, and the people picking through the ruins found them and assumed that it was a normal, non-fetish thing. So nowadays everyone with a good body and too much gold is rocking the battle bikini to show how much money they have. Not like they actually get in fights anyways.
>>47642900
What I mean is, that's the opposite of a sexy scenario. It's a de-sexing scenario
>>47641302
All women in the setting are, at the core, deeply slutty creatures for different reasons, to the point where even protecting their bodies from harm is purely secondary to arousing cocks that they can then relieve.
Some are slutty enough (elves, especially dark elves fall into this catagory, though they do not have exclusive control over it) that they are actively trying to get you to rape them to satisfy how deep their lust for cock goes.
>>47641302
Gotta wonder - how the society so advanced (or different) that they can make battle bikinis effective at protecting the crucial parts of the body still has morals of the 20th century humanity and has the urge to cover nipples/penises/orifices with their battle bikinis?
I mean, if you are so advanced that a small plate of armor can protect the entire body (e.g. forcefields, ain't gotta explain shit), why would you make it in a battle bikini form-factor?
Just make a small belt or something.
And if you are different enough in biology that you don't have to protect stomach/breast/neck/head areas, again, why bother with battle bikinis when you can do away without armor at all or with armor that covers your actual crucial bits?
It baffles me that societies so vastly different in technology/biology that they can use battle bikinis effectively are assumed to still have prudish 20th century morals with its "I SEE A NIPPLE".
>>47643023
>Implying societies with loose sexual morals are fit for survival
>>47643090
Or perhaps they are innocent enough that they don't consider full frontal exposure indecent. Maybe they aren't even aroused by naked body in the first place.
Again, a society is so advanced or different from us in technology and biology.
Why should they be aroused by things that arouse us?
Why should they consider indecent things that we consider indecent?
If everyone around you was 24/7 naked, I doubt you would be 24/7 aroused.
Fetishism doesn't create social taboos, social taboos create fetishism.
>>47643132
>Fetishism doesn't create social taboos, social taboos create fetishism.
Basically, "if everyone's super, no one is".
If everyone's fetishes are accepted, then the concept of fetish doesn't exist in the first place.
Nothing makes your fetish special - and being seen as special is prerequisite for it to be seen as fetish in society's eyes in the first place.
>>47642802
>If your group exists under the idea that banning things is good, and at any point you defend a portrayal of the human body is bad because it shows too much skin then yeah, you are a puritan cult.
Nobody ever banned anything. There's a difference between "We should never see a women's body, it's wrong" and "It's degrading to be constantly portrayed as a pinup". Variety's the spice of life.
>And here they also attack relationships with uneven ages or interracial relationships (because they are a form of racism, I still don't get it).
>They will openly call a chick a slut as long as she disagrees with then.
Gonna need a cite on these, and a hell of a lot more of a cite that it's some foundational plank of feminism.
>>47643348
>feminism is SJW
>SJW is only feminien
>disliking pin ups is all they do he says
>probably going to give a "no true SJW" variant denying the most usual SJW behavior
>he probably thinks everyone on the same side of the spectrum as he is are nice well behaved kids
>he probably doesn't even perceive all the antiprogressive whiny divisive actions by those one the same side of the spectrum as he is
>gonna need citations [doesn't pay attention to text saying it's here, meaning foereign]
On the citations basis, black's rights movements here say black men on white women is a form of racism because it devalues black women (you may notice it's the same tier of bullshit that right wingers spout about muh white women)
About age, feminists want to raise the age of consent because apparently teens shouldn't have sex as they will be exploited and raped.
>not banning
Except they continually make proposals to ban things. SJWs love to censor things and really wanna censor their opponents online. SJWs block people from speaking at campi. SJWs defend banning books (where I live they do). SJWs defend banning media they dislike in general, and their videogame bullshit is on the same level as conservatives' "muh violent videogames".
SJWs constantly whine about things they could simply ignore, thus making it impossible for others to ignore them
Just suck up and become a libertarian instead of a dick.
>>47643023
>armor that covers your actual crucial bits?
Sampson-type magic. The only truly vital organs are the sexual ones, the source of the hero's masculine/feminine power.
>>47641302
women. women need to look cute. it seems to override any other goal they have.
have you ever needed to go somewhere with your gf/wife/whatever and nearly had to drag her out of the bathroom just to get there on time?
>>47641464
This.
>>47641468
And this.
Which universe? If you're making your own, just make it so that boobs are containers of magic, and that all armour somehow interferes with casting.
>>47643494
Slutty outfits don't look cute.
>>47642158
Dat's a right proppa lady! Shame she's one of dem pawadins.
>>47641302
Women like showing off their bodies while they still have the looks to snag a decent guy before they're too old or chewed up by monsters to have anything to look forward to besides dying nameless and forgotten in some dungeons somewhere.
You are an absolute retard for trying to justify it though, just own up to enjoying cleavage and nice butts, like a man.
>B, b, but there's an in-universe logical explanation for all these chainmail bikinis, I swear...
Is the most beta shit ever.
>>47641704
Which is why foot fetishism is several times more common in the US than in most of europe, where people take their shoes off indoors.
Same with getting turned on by spanking, it's much rarer in countries where corporeal punishment of children is prohibited.
>>47641543
Huh. Pretty neat, good job.
>>47641654
Humidity is a pretty huge factor. As someone who lives in a place that experiences 100+ dry and muggy heat, muggy is worse as far as comfort level. It can be 80 out but if the humidity is up youll be sweating just standing around doing nothing.
But dry heat has its downsides as well. If youre not accustomed to it it can crack your skin and dry out your airways so that a simple cough or sneeze causes a spray of blood. It also usually means that the sun is out and you have to worry about sun burns, heat stroke, etc which you can get when its humid too obviously.
Its fairly common knowledge that in a desert scenario you wear loose and covering clothes, but I honestly dont know what would be best for the rainforest climates.
>>47641543
>next to thr discussion of far-eastern handpuppet displays.
kek
>>47643966
Head to toe mosquito netting.
>>47643467
>libertarian
>not a dick
kek, guys who can't live in society, because "muh freedom".
Also, because you consume shit media about shit pseudofeminists from the depths of tumblr doesn't make them important in a great scheme of things.
>>47641302
The matriarchy.
>>47642438
thank, mr. ultraman
>>47643966
>but I honestly dont know what would be best for the rainforest climates.
Ask the guys living in the rain forest. They seem to be pretty content with wearing almost nothing. Though just the thought of accidentally stepping on a spider without any shoes scares me.
>>47643842
Wait as sec... murricans actually don't take shoes of indoors? I always thought it's just a movie thing.
>>47643842
I take my shoes off at home and make sure that everyone who visits does the same. Fuckers better not track dirt into my house.
>>47641302
Aesthetic choices don't have to be explained in such a manner. Fictional worlds don't have to explain every single detail as if the world is a real one. You should treat it more abstractly. Obviously the outfit of a character should reflect how the character acts or the tone of the world, but you don't need to be so ltieral.
>>47644055
Some do, some don't, and I don't even mean in the sense of something like "The northwest takes their shoes off indoors, but the whole east coast doesn't." More in the sense of "The people living in this house take their shoes off while indoors, however their next door neighbor does not."
I used to, but I live in a place with dark carpet I cannot replace now, and have to worry about poisonous spiders that are virtually impossible to see against said carpet, so now I wear shoes almost all the time.
>>47641302
armour manufacturers realised that sex sells
>>47641302
They don't. Enjoy being stabbed where it hurts.
>>47641302
>opens boobplate folder
hawtness is an important ability score
>>47641514
>FPBP
What does that mean?
>>47644431
first post best post
>>47644453
oh ok.
thank you.
>>47643991
>can't live in society
I think you're confusinh it with anarchists, it's okay I didn't expect better fron a retard whose arguments can be summed up to "not muh!" no-true-scotsman bullshit.
Go back to your hugbox where you'll cry yourself to sleep about the evil men that reminded you how your ideological brethren are shitty
>>47642158
Adding a few things:
>She peels down a pair of flesh-colored shorts which shaped her hip and crotch
>ungroomed wild forest of hair underneath
>after burping spits out false white, pearly teeth revealing a row of yellowed, stained and uneven chompers
>high-heeled thigh-high boots of disguises were padded to make her thighs thicker and feet daintier
>most of the peepers vomit in disgust and anger
Someone else spin onward on this universe where adventurers disguise themselves as super sexy people to lure in employers please.
If you've already handwaved that women can be effective close-combat fighters then how much more of a leap is it to handwave bikini armour?
>>47641588
I see where you took your idea from you cheeky prickand it's a pretty good idea
>>47642211
Bracers of armor from 3.5 are what I think he's referring to. The idea of a magical armor effect that doesn't stack with normal armor seems like a pretty basic idea though
>>47642158
Stealing this...
>>47641626
Control your dick mate.
>>47642331
Sounds like a smart guy.
You should learn something from him.
>>47641302
Combat occurring at ranges close enough that camoflauge wouldn't matter, with weapons powerful enough that armor wouldn't matter, in an environment hot enough that wearing heavy clothing would cause heat stroke in any period of time and with a lack of biting insects
>>47644928
>brutish orc mercenary, once he's done glaring at people so that they'll fork over the extra silver for that griffin he killed, returns to his room
>there, he pulls out his fearsome tusks (merely dentures), takes off his wig and then starts washing the green paint off his face
>once he's done, his skin is a pale lime green (as opposed to the bright green it was before) his teeth (whilst long and jagged) don't come to tusks, and his hair is short and well-groomed.
Did I do it right?
>>47645964
>turns out his muscles are false as well, he's a thin half-orc librarian
The reason people stopped wearing plate armour in real life: your enemy's weapons hit too hard for plate armour to be worth wearing unless you make it oppressively thick and heavy, so you mgiht as well drop the armour entirely in favour of better mobility. Of course in real life we keep helmets and chest protection, so if you want bikinis then the enemy has to hit so hard that even those defences become ineffective dead weight.
Then add in a dose of Bloodborne/anime logic where less weight and enough training lets you do super fast dodges and dashes, so combat becomes a very fast paced affair of you and your enemy zipping about the place trying to land a good hit on each other.
>>47642933
Yes. That's whats so sexy about it. Sexy scenarios are overdone. Unsexing is the new sexing.
>>47646200
>new spell: reduce cup size
>new spell: fatten tummy
>new spell: create acne
>>47646583
That's de-sexing, not un-sexing. There's a difference.
>>47646726
Explain
>>47646812
It's quite simple. Un-sexing is to remove any stand-out attractive features and bring the appearance down to a neutral state. Basically make them look plain rather than a bombshell.
De-sexing is to take the appearance past that neutral state, and then make them purposefully unattractive.
See what I mean?
everyone shut up and post boobplate
>>47647045
You first.
>>47647045
>>47641302
Women like showing their bodies in the right scenario, and looking sexually in-your-face certainly has its advantages.
Really, the question is what would prevent them from coming about in a big wide setting where most of the specifics are up to the person creating it. If you don't like it, think of reasons it would be unpopular in your setting; if you do, think of reasons to the opposite.
>>47647045
oh oh oh, i got a good reason.
the universe derives its magic from the inter dimensional butthurt of SJWs.
>>47647118
>>47647143
>>47647159
>>47647118
Where is that bint from, anyway? I've seen her around here quite a lot.
>>47647118
That would explain our current situation. As a planet without magic, the council of inter-dimensional wizards who control the universe decided upon discovery of Earth that our universe was only good for being a generator for other, better, worlds to live off. Everywhere else gets to be a magical utopia, because the wizards spend their time twisting our memetics to promote only the shittiest SJW memes, therby ensuring a steady flow of butthurt-power.Basically Monsters Inc., but with SJWs and Boob-wizards.
>>47647181
>>47647189
the sorceress from dragons crown video game.
it is known for having an amazing art style with over the top sexualized characters and being a great game. SJWs got butthurt about it.
here is the penny arcade article about the SJWs bitching about it, and why they are wrong.
>>47647228
>>47647189
whoops forgot link
https://www.penny-arcade.com/news/post/2013/04/24/character-selection
>>47647190
i like it anon, especially because it twists their oppression ideology into the exact opposite
man i really need to improve my boobplate folder...
>>47647228
>>47647253
Isn't she supposed to have purposefully made herself look like that with magic or something?
>>47647253
Honestly, I don't have a problem with the character design even if it isn't visionary, next-level symbolism completely devoid and innocent of selfish sexual fulfillment themes. Selfish sexual fulfillment is one of the absolute goods in this existence, and attacking it is morally reprehensible to me.
That, and I would totally play a game where the Warrior has a comically oversized codpiece.
>>47647343
All playable characters in DC except the mage look ridiculous.
>>47641468
>>47643672
I'm glad at least someone pointed it out.
I will add that the only reason to wear a bikini is if you're going out swimming and you don't want to skinny dip. Really, that's about it.
If you wanted to be an exhibitionist slut going naked cloak or hoodie is much, much better from every possible perspective.
>>47641302
Red Sonja
>>47647343
no, all of the characters in that game have exagerated proportions except the elf and wizard.
the dwarf is a freak brick of solid muscle
warrior is freak brick of solid metal
amazon is freak ass
sorc is freak tits
>>47647343
That's just from a fanmade comic.Someone post itBROMETHEUS
>>47647352
>Selfish sexual fulfillment is one of the absolute goods in this existence
Only when it doesn't impede on another person's existence.
But you guys wouldn't have a problem figuring that out, right?Right?
Honestly, my mages are far more likely to go with absolutely nothing on other than cloaks or capes as a testament to their power, sending the message of "My magic outweighs any need of mundane protection"
>>47647419
>except the elf
Every official artist draws her relatively tame, but also a bit different. But her in-game model is basically 70% legs and hips and a tiny torso added to it. She's far from normal.
>>47647419
>>47647380
>except the mage
Something something wizard, something something riding a meteor, something something a billion dollar smile.
>>47642041
In Star Trek, phasers are so powerful that armor is just an affectation.
>>47647515
>>47647419
>>47647380
Oh, found it. Here you go.
>>47647443
Yeah, but certain criteria should be required to qualify something as a legit impediment to someone's very existence. Something more substantial than "I can't live in a world where people openly enjoy things that make me uncomfortable". Obviously there's a lot of middle ground here, and people are going to disagree. All we can do is hope that people can disagree a little without shitting on each other too hard, and that people don't paint themselves into smaller and smaller boxes of comfort until the slightest thing renders their existence into a hellish abomination of unlife and forces them to suicide, making the perpetrator of said thing a murderer and existence rapist.
>>47647584
>All we can do is hope that people can disagree a little without shitting on each other too hard, and that people don't paint themselves into smaller and smaller boxes of comfort until the slightest thing renders their existence into a hellish abomination of unlife and forces them to suicide, making the perpetrator of said thing a murderer and existence rapist.
That'll be the day.
>>47641449
>>47641602
In the case of mine, the heat from the armor doesn't bother them so much becausethey've got feathers that keeps the armor segments away from their skin slightly, allows some airflow.
Also the armor distinguishes them as "authority" on the continent, but in an approachable way rather than a "giant suit of plate armor enchanted such that it's permanently red hot on the outside faces" way.
>>47647584
wont happen. the people that hate sex in media have adopted explicitly counter enlightenment, anti freedom philosophies.
how about this explaination... mages can choke people to death with their own clothes using telekinesis, so little clothing is used.
>>47641302
Vampires are man-sluts. Anyone else doesn't get them unless they accept the CHA penalty that comes with the "exhibitionist" trait.
>>47647766
Oh I don't think it'll happen, that's just the least shitty outcome to hope for.
Though I think your idea has potential, it's a bit of reach on its own. I mean, a chain bikini strap would be excellent for choking, wouldn't it? Though the idea of lose clothing as a solution to heat is taken down a few.
only orcs wear slut armor because they don't wear it *as* armor, but for decorative purposes. they're hardy creatures who don't need much external protection from the elements, so everything they wear is a fashion statement, the more outlandish the better. it's not unusual to run into an orc warrior who insists on wearing 20 pink rosaries on her left ankleand nothing elseor a male orc scout in the fanciest human lingiere wearing a top hat and a monocle.
>>47647766
If you have to jump through this many mental hoops to justify it, you'd better just drop the idea.
>>47647584
>>47647766
the sad part is that they have adopted philosophies that say it is impossible to change peoples ideas through reason, debate, and evidence. they think force and violence is the only possible way to make change.
>>47647926
Yeah, the whole "I'm objectively right, my stance is robust enough to dominate in a marketplace of ideas" has been replaced with "I'm objectively right, and will take measures unrelated to my stance to make all others anathema to publicly discuss".
>>47648015
it is clear that we need a strong man to teach them how the real world works. a strong, YUGE man to redpill all the tumblr degenerates and make America great again
>combat swimsuits
the setting is primarily underwater
>>47647882
>Orc fashion-istas
10/10 would play in this setting.
Would we be the orcs raiding for hosiery and felt supplies, or the fashion designers desperately defending their magical studios from the barbarians?
>>47648177
>you are Chad Nobleman, a nobleman
>one late night, you and your bros get royally smashed at a tavern and decide it's time for an impromptu hunting session
>haphazardly, you mount your horses and ride into the woods to, in your words, "caaapshurr ayuunicorr"
>you encounter a band of orcish scouts in garish jester costumes
roll for sobriety
>>47648118
actually, SJW philosophy is derived from NAZI philosophy
when the enlightenment happned, it gave us all of the awesome stuff that we enjoy today, like science, democracy, reason, and individualism. A counter enlightenment movement emerged to try to fortify fuedalism, superstition, and collectivism against the enlightenment. The counter enlightenment movement was centered in germany and eventually evolved into the nazis. then after WWI, communists took the anti reason, anti science, anti freedom nazi philosophies of paul de man, martin heideggar, and others and adopted them to leftist purposes.
http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/i7705.html
>>47641302
They provide the best protection for the vagina bones. Since men don't have those, they don't need to wear them.
>>47647882
>>47648261
That's some sweet alt-earth headcanon, Anon
>>47648118
Is this a shitty attempt at satire? What does your shitty two-party politics have to do with wanting an idea that stands on its merits?
>>47648261
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SUWK_pWrbw
>>47648305
see >>47648261. there is no reasoning with nazis. they have to be taught by force.
>>47648289
>I totally read that book and thought critically about its value before posting, all in under two minutes
>>47641302
Mage armour makes your clothes stiff when you cast it on your self so less clothing means better movement range.
>>47648351
>implying you did
>>47648289
>>47648305
its true, friend. and its not my head canon. its the explaination of a professor of philosophy at princeton university. you should read the link its very good, i read the whole book.
>>47648347
Please tell me you intended the irony in your post.
Rolled 2, 4 = 6 (2d6)
>>47648250
>>47646139
>The reason people stopped wearing plate armour in real life: your enemy's weapons hit too hard for plate armour to be worth wearing unless you make it oppressively thick and heavy
Sort-of-maybe-half-true
Armor and firearms flip-flopped between who-trumps-who when firearms started becoming worthwhile. Armorers started improving their bulletproofing techniques, new plates became almost fucking impossible to penetrate with modern firearms. Modern firearms improved, allowing them to penetrate previously bulletproof plate. Plate's bulletproofing became better in response, etc, etc.
That said, it seems for the longest time that firearms won out as our grasp on them rapidly advanced, and our understanding of how to properly stop them only went so far. Most good armor at the time had focused so much on DEFLECTION that a lot of people couldn't really wrap their heads around high-velocity kinetic absorption quite as easily anymore until we got around to flak jackets, and modern bulletproof plates, which absorb and redistribute energy instead of deflecting bullets- and even that is iffy.
Ultimately, what you find is that unless the armor is REALLY light, manageable, and cheap as fuck, a lot of soldiers are going to prefer to sacrifice protection in favor of comfort. HOWEVER, much like knights in the past, there are soldiers who prefer heavy armor nowadays, primarily because those are the guys who really don't do any part of the job of being a soldier other than the combat part. Talk to a regular US marine and they'll probably bitch about having to wear anything more than just the chest plate-carrier, because they have shit to do other than be shot at. Talk to an ex-contractor who was talking jobs that include "helicopter in, drive dumbass MSF dudes through militant villages" and you'll likely be told that they were wearing every stupid kevlar neck-guard, bicep cover, groin plate they could find, because the ONLY thing they were doing is being shot at.
>>47648329
>>47648329
funny video anon, but neitzche is one of the major poststructuralist heros, the book has an entire chapter about how his philosophy got used by them.
>>47648398
Making a snap judgment is always worth calling out, though.
Ignorance is not really a big deal, you can fix ignorance pretty easily if you're willnig. Judging something you're ignorant of however is pretty contemptible.
>>47648578
Seems perfectly adequate to justify skimpy dress as in OP. None but the most obstinate of boob-plate settings would implode if the occasional female preferred full armor.
>>47648289
>>47648329
> Who's Afraid of Enlightenment?
>Surely, one of the more curious aspects of the contemporary period is that the heritage of Enlightenment finds itself under attack not only from the usual suspects on the political right but also from proponents of the academic left. As one astute commentator has recently noted, today "Enlightenment bashing has developed into something of an intellectual blood-sport, uniting elements of both the left and the right in a common cause."5 Thus, one of the peculiarities of our times is that Counter-Enlightenment arguments once the exclusive prerogative of the political right have attained a new lease on life among representatives of the cultural left. Surprisingly, if one scans the relevant literature, one finds champions of post-modernism who proudly invoke the Counter-Enlightenment heritage as their own. As the argument goes, since democracy has been and continues to be responsible for so many political ills, and since the critique of modern democracy began with the anti-philosophes, why not mobilize their powerful arguments in the name of the postmodern political critique? As a prominent advocate of postmodern political theory contends, one need only outfit the Counter-Enlightenment standpoint with a new "articulation" (a claim couched in deliberate vagueness) to make it serviceable for the ends of the postmodern left.6 Yet those who advocate this alliance of convenience between extreme right and extreme left provide few guarantees or assurances that the end product of the exercise in political grafting will result in greater freedom rather than a grandiose political miscarriage.
im running out of boobplate, someone help
>ITT discussions of the Enlightenment and Nietzschian theory with regards to boobplate
I love this place.
>>47648843
I would, but most of my boobplate stuff is too much for this particular board.
>>47649255
>>47641302
Why would you not wear a battle bikini in the glorious land of Muscletits?
>>47646075
That's the hawtness.
>>47648843
>>47647454
Anything powerful enough might just wear clothing for appearence's sake or not bother. Can be applied to powerful supernatural entities in magical settings or to superbeings in modern or sci-fi settings.
>>47649578
>>47649643
>>47649671
>>47641302
Force fields inhibited by clothing.
>>47649683
>>47649718
>>47648132
This. Think Dark Sun but underwater.
>>47641302
At the dawn of creation a race of perverse nigh omnipotent arseholes known as consumers forced goddesses of war of each species to wear battle bikinis and combat swimsuits into combat. In return the consumers gave all battle bikinis and combat swimsuits powerful wards that not even the most powerful mages, wizards, warlocks, ect. could destroy. Since these wards provide the best protection many adventures of both genders use them.
>>47641302
A universe where wearing armor in battle is pointless ( heavy magic / high-tech energy weapons ), theres no need to protect yourself from the environment, in a society where using as little cloth as possible and flaunting your body is the norm.
Sounds kinda interesting, but as a game setting, I can see that going magical realm really fast.
you know for all the people I see obsess over turning everything to be less rule-heavy more story-heavy in their games, they seem to get ass blasted at things that don't make mechanical sense such as combat bikinis.
>>47642085
>Napoleonic era marines starching their collars so stiff you couldn't turn your neck in one without snapping it).
That was so that they couldn't get their throat slashed during a boarding action.
>>47651018
lol okay, I laughed
>>47641302
It's better to not get hit than absorb said it.
After a point armors become so light they can be stylized to look like however you want.
That, and personal force fields.
>>47641302
In a setting where powerful magic and destructive machinery are the norm it doesn't much matter what you're wearing when you get blown up.
>>47641302
It's resurrection, magical healing and pervert healers demanding you take your armor off to show them the wound before they'll treat it; and seeing and touching those parts of your body during the treatment. The battle bikini is underwear to protect from perverts on both sides. Modern female soldiers should start wearing them. It also cuts down on intent to kill in non-necrophiles.
>>47651623
Some of this applies to underarmor and some to outerwear.
>>47644271
Rando needs more love
>>47641302
Everyone is actually part plant and draws sustenance from the Sun.
Covering yourself up is the equivalent of being a goth.
>>47642392
>Thick women all around
Noice
>>47642276
I'm glad someone still has the enthusiasm to speak up about this stuff. I used to put in my two cents when a question like this comes up but lately I've been content to just sit and watch people get it wrong. You keep that spark going.
Love is a battlefield.
Wear full plate in battles between soldiers, but wear a bikini in battles between hearts.
They think it looks cool.
