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>>47613892
>>47624995
Right, I'll just get this out of the way now: But how does he smell?
I have a question for digger about the neo heisei jump if he shows up. Can I use plug n play to replace a persons soul with an equally powerful source? I was thinking of replacing the souls of necrons with masses of energy I get from my magic or hunks of warp energy.
>>47625025
Terrible.
>>47625025
That pun is shit and so are you.
>>47624995
A new thread?
I'LL STEAL IT NO ONE WOULD EVER KNOW!
>>47624995
I have no nose and i must sneeze.
Is are jumps anything other than a part of Jump Chan's great waifu/husbando building game?
>>47625026
Necrons don't have souls, man. There's nothing to replace.
>>47620846
>http://pastebin.com/TBbY3Sfa
looks decent, expected more “HAPPY BIRTHDAY!” Now I know I'm not the best at this but considering you give up your abilities for them and you only get 500 per scenario RP should be at least triple the value of CP, which seems OP and unlikely also as presently worded you would even lose things like body mod, warehouse access and skills you've trained in, was this intentional? What about stuff you've made with warehouse parts in Kamen Rider jumps? I went pure science for the first two, and the Kamen Rider Neo-Heisei Part 1 jump itself doesn't seem to have anything that actually makes you better at fighting other than gear.
>>47625084
They used to have souls. Now they do not. That is why I was thinking if I could replace that blank empty region with some equally powerful magic warp stuff it may equal out.
>>47625108
don't fret I'm pretty sure >>47625075
is just that AI that shows up now and again
>>47625120
To what end, though?
>>47625128
AI have better grammar than I do.
>>47625130
Making them less gloomy.
>>47625120
No, they never had souls. A Necron isn't the same thing as a Necrontyr. It's just a pale imitation of one. You wouldn't be replacing the soul of a thing that had lost it, you'd be putting a soul into something that was never intended to have one.
>>47625164
I'm not a 40k guru, but I suspect something called "Necron" is going to be gloomy no matter what you jam in its soul hole.
>>47624275
Which dragon is it that gives you a higher caster level than its CR?
>>47625173
What if I used the heart of a child?
>>47625205
it'd probably just rot
>>47625205
Children can be gloomytrust me on this.
Do you want a gloomy child Necron sulking in its room all day?
>>47625242
No that wouldn't be useful at all.
All this just adds to my growing belief that the 40k verse is a shithole that cannot bebimproved in any way.
Is there a Men in Black jump?
>>47625262
It can be improved if you buy that printer thing from the emperium jump. Just slap all the tech you have gained in your entire chain into a empyrium approved storage device and act like you found a lost archive of golden age technology PRAISE THE EMPEROR!
>>47625128
Hay Bancho, I have a PS238 question if you don't mind.
If I was going speedster and took Miscellaneous Meta, would it be ok to have the three powers be super speed, fast thinking/reflexes so I can actually do things with that speed, and proportionate durability like in the X-Men jump?
And if that is acceptable how fast would I be starting out?
>>47625297
So basically take what you can in 40k and leave as soon as possible and use it for your own goals. Sounds like a plan most jumpers do.
>>47625306
yes to that power combination and about 300 miles an hour, topping out at around 900, if you are really going for speed remember that you can take it multiple times to have it stack with itself
>>47625026
As others have pointed out they likely just plain lack a slot for it. Now what you should really be thinking about is Xtreme Tessaracts or Shard Drivers (might have to do something like Meteor's off site beaming though).
>>47625312
Actually the opposite. Give the Emperium of Man all the tech it could ever need from outside settings while making it look like emperor approved tech.
Make sure the first thing they see is a way to get the golden skeleton off his toilet and back walking around.
>>47625287
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUvEyclQjdI
No one has ever made a Men in Black jump, what you thought you saw was just a weather balloon that crashed into swamp gas.
Realm of Myths from the Civilization jump makes able to 'seduce the wind or tickle a mountain'.Could you waifu the Warp with this?
>>47625348
>Xtreme Tessaracts or Shard Drivers
You lost me.
>>47625372
that is one of the worst plans I've heard in these threads and I've been here since around thread 45
>>47625355
>Give the Emperium of Man all the tech it could ever need from outside settings while making it look like emperor approved tech.
>Giving advanced human/possibly xeno tech to xenophobic frantic to a corpse of a person on a golden toilet who regular are against use of xeno or technology not sanctioned by the Adeptus Mechanicus.
There is nothing that can ever go wrong with this plan.
>>47625386
Wow if Bancho says it's a bad plan it must be bad.
>>47625382
As in swapping out C'Tan Shards and late game powerup items.
>>47625386
>>47625372
It really isnt. Remember a guy wanted to use it to waifu the abyss in mage.
>>47625392
But if you use the printer it gets the official seal of approval.
>>47625413
I must've missed that one and I grant you that is a worse idea but that doesn't make seducing a place where thought, energy. matter and emotion are in distinct from one another which is ruled by the fucking chaos Gods any the better of an idea.
>>47625262
IIRC, in the grim darkness of the far future there is only war. It does kinda wear its heart on its sleeve.
>>47625428
Just because it's created using mechanicus tech doesn't mean it's sanctioned tech.
>>47625347
Thank you, one more question. How about a Taiwanese knockoff Mentat power? Super intelligence, fast computation, and thinking about several different things at once?
>>47625392
>STC Printer 800CP: A device roughly the size of an Office Copier, can take any schematic and convert it into the Standard Template Construct format used by Ad-Mech, or create copies of existing STCs for dissemination. Instructions will be converted to use Imperial manufacturing systems when possible. Forge Worlds tend to guard STCs jealously, so copying rarer schematics may piss off a few important people.
May not be a good idea at first but I for one would like to see what the toasters would do with halo tech, starwars tech, or even animorph tech.
>>47625515
super intelligence is its own power, check out the Alpha-technological skill, that includes fast computation. The last one is pretty much going to be disassociative identity disorder and I'm not sure you want that.
>>47625522
>animorph tech
Not that anon, but that reminds me.
I gotta get my hands on that Pemalite crystal when I go there.
Binbougami ga!
Drop-In
Deadbeat Holiday
Eye of the Tiger
Known Survivor 300
No Valley Low 500
Temple of Thought 800
A Song for the Hopeless 1300
When We Stand Together 1350
Leeroy: Butler, Looking to the Sky, Temple of Thought 300
Infinite Cake 1400
Banchou Outfit
Distractions 1300
Who Are You? 1000
Sort of only took a capstone in this one out of a feeling of obligation and because it directly affects one of the other perks. Went for Drop-In due to the increase in chi stuff + some redundancy for Wuxia's Ghost Cutter.
No Valley Low lets me to easily trick people into thinking I'm a good guy. Useful perk for someone morally ambiguous that likes to hang out with protagonists.
Temple of Thought is a ki/chi/lifeforce combiner, don't have as much of that stuff as I could (as I'll nearly always choose more fun stuff over it) but after you get over like 100 builds you'll always have at least one or two sources of it and I've got a whole bunch even without really speccing for it.
A Song for the Hopeless makes me a minor bad luck god, not sure what this even does as I have no idea what this setting is. Something about sucking bad luck out of people? I guess that's a good thing. That and cat summoning. Set myself up as a sort of trickster anyway so this seems up my alley even if I don't really know what it does.
Used an import as Leeroy gets imported enough that he's also got a bunch of ki sources. Better yet he gets a free perk that means people will attack him before they go for me which is a useful trait in a bodyguard. Poor old Leeroy.
Infinite Cake was chosen over the arguably more practical Scouter probably because I'm pretty hungry at the moment.
Banchou Outfit is free and apparently gives me some sort of costume that makes me look hard.
Should probably stop losing my memories in settings I don't know anything about. Got to admit I do always find the idea of Leeroy dragging me into the warehouse to put on a 'you're a jumper!' video to be pretty funny.
>>47625522
>Animorph tech
>now the Imperials can really let their Emperor down and now become the very xeno's they seek to destroy
That'd be really funny
>>47625553
Fair enough. I thought Alpha-technological only gave you knowledge, not super intelligence and fast computation too. Thanks again.
>>47625205
>what if I used the heart of a child.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJiUfnIzbVM
>>47625634
it makes you a genius who can do and design the kind of things you would need to be a gadget based superhero, sorry if that was not clear
>>47625647
Thanks for the new ringtone.
>>47625677
Something something CAVE! Something something BOX OF SCRAPS!
>>47625725
well maybe not that far but teenager devising a new adhesive polymer/elastic and a unique sprayer for it in his bedroom in three nights isn't too far off
>>47625599
Better have metavore.
It finally happened, /jc/.
You took one drawback too many, bothered someone too strong, or simply tripped down the stairs in some non-powered jump. Now you're back in this world, and the game ends, with all your possessions, powers, companions, plus a thank-you letter from Jumpchan itself.
What's your first reaction?
Two updates inbound. Here’s the first.
Dragon’s Crown v. 1.1
Changelog:
>Classes:
>>All classes are free now, not just Fighter.
>Perks:
> Epic,uhhh…Proportions?
>>Now allows you to spend as much as you want to “enhance” the particularities of your physical appearance. First free purchase nets you a boost to put you on par with the DC MC’s, additional purchases are if you feel the need to go above and beyond that. No cap, 50CP per purchase after your first taste.
Second update for the day.
Dragonlance v. .95a
Changelog:
>Editing. Tons of editing for dropped phrases, clunky wording, tense use, random key mashes, etc.
>Items
>1 discounted item per 600CP skill clarified
>Drawbacks
>Ocular Angst 0CP – Clarified
>Irisony 100CP – Added
>Notes
>>What Price Power? – Added
Honestly, it’s embarrassing how ugly that doc was last release. It should read better now, but point out anything that’s clunky please.
>>47625791
Welp time to crack open the walls of the universe and start my new adventure with magic and science!
>>47625791
Order some food, break out the brews, light up the chalice, and watch Twin Peaks.
I'll get to everything else tomorrow.
>>47625800
Dubs confirmed
1,600 CP into Epic Proportions.
>>47625800
>>47625818
Wizardio, my good mageman.
>>47625838
>filename
But which is which?
>>47625791
"Fuck, that was a dumb way to die."
Following that I guess I go out and institute Culture-lite with all of my advanced technology.
>>47625818
>Notes
>>What Price Power? – Added
That is unpossible to complete. What kind of sadist are you?
>>47625791
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNW5Hd_2HC4
>>47625800
> No cap on Epic Proportions
>>47625791
Suicide.
>>47625800
Hilarious. Guess I'll throw the 100 cp freed up by that into Moar Epic Proportions.
>>47625818
Looks good. Not able to finish it quite yet now, but have the first part.
>40000 Things I Hate About You
Rewards: +400cp, Friends Like These
Artifactory [400] Imma build ALL the Crazy Magic Shit. This is going to be Great.
The Balance is shattering, Takhisis lies dead, her heart pierced with a Dragonlance enhanced by a wealth of immortality-killing power.
The GRAND DECEPTION is starting to come undone.
Swathes of Dragons bow before me. A fourth faction has arisen from neutrality to Chaos.
...
the Gem. The GEM. It SINGS TO ME and I shall find it. Mwahahahaha!
I shall find it and it shall be shattered.
I shall find it and free chaos
I shall find it and war with the Gods
I shall find it and serve CHAOS
I shall find it and use its shards to create a mosaic. It shall look like a orange and pink frog. I am unsure why.
...
Day 2: The singing was revealed to be a bird. This may be harder than previously thought.
>>47625791
>tripped down the stairs in some non-powered jump
And that there is why I never take those drawbacks.
>>47625800
>>47625818
Flamio, my good hotman.
>>47625858
Ha ha! It's catching!
>>47625939
You asshole I have been saying flamio my good hotman irl now.
>>47625818
>>47625915
Oh, another question. How bad are the diminishing return on levels here? Because you mentioned those, and I'm assuming I'm not level 42 with jump purchases alone.
>>47625949
If you say so. Traveling and interesting multiverse is the only thing that matters, being stuck here is worse than death.
>>47625791
I'd... Curl up and start shivering, probably.
Then again, the fact that it was not a dream after all would really help in the end.
>>47625980
Not something I really have hard quantified, so let's try this.
It depends on the edition you jump.
If you jump it 1 or 2E, then you're hard capped at 20 purchasable levels and everything past that is just ease of learning.
If you jump something past 2E, then you can buy more levels but assume a soft cap of 30 with highly diminishing returns after that.
How's that sound.
>>47625791
Sit around using precog to read stuff and play games that aren't released yet (or nudge things so they're higher quality). Watch as Desty uplifts everything and do the occasional spar with companions to prevent Sechs from getting bored. I don't need him testing his version of the Dragon Slaying Fist in atmosphere again.
Probably also throw a clone of myself (with some fixes) out to take my original place. Would be a bit awkward to just suddenly go missing.
>>47626017
You should have invested in multiverse travel abilities. There are a few that only work post chain.
>>47625898
>>47626017
>not figuring out what you did wrong
>not taking what you've learned to better yourself or others
>not making earth interesting
>not doing literally anything than complain
>>47623086
I'll probably do some minor updates, but Erudite would be exactly how things on Athas would be like. On Athas unless you're out in the boonies, anyone with more psionic potential than the average individual, goes to a school. The school basically teaches the philosophy of "The Way" which has become so synonymous with Psionics they're often interchangeable. The Way would basically be Erudites.
I'll probably just be putting the notes to 3.5e for magic & psionics. That'll be the extent of the update.
>>47626087
I don't care about visiting alternate versions of this horrible place.
>>47626095
>Being stuck in a mundane and doomed universe totally isn't a horrible thing!
>>47626113
Then why are you jumping at all? Why be a whiney little cunt and not do something?
>>47625980
>>47626080
All of that, though, is based on someone who really needs to quantify how purchases equate in terms of acquired levels.
As I've said in the past, my main goal is to facilitate story and narrative so while I'll include crunch for those who want it I won't force it on people who don't.
Yes, we need rules and structure but I build with the assumption that there's some wiggle room to accomodate different jumping styles and needs.
>>47625791
Fuck! ...well, my life is immeasurably better now, and I can finally explain what the fuck a Hamburglar is.
>>47626113
>mundane universe
>there's an ex-jumper in it
Pick one. I'll grant you that you may doom the universe, but probably not by letting entropy run its course.
>>47626111
Fantastic. Thank you for following up with me on this.
>>47626160
But can you see why kids love the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
>>47626080
So, what does the Legend Capstone actually do, besides giving you levels? Does it actually make every single battle potentially winnable, or is that fluff?
Also, what's Dragonlance fluff like? Are martials actually capable of competing with casters?
We can buy the Experienced Classes perks multiple times, right?
>>47626113
>>47626140
>Every time this stupid fucking topic comes up.
>>47626140
Because you are going to fantastical universes on wild adventures? Not sure what your intent was.
>>47626163
I'm the only being with power. There's nothing new or interesting. The universe itself is empty and boring and mundane, without anything interesting to do or see. As an explorer I'd have nothing to do.
>>47625791
Slight depression, but nothing I can't get over.
Then excitement at getting to see my family again.
Then panic over having to introduce the family I've gathered on the chain to them.
Then more excitement over getting to introduce them to eachother.
I think the best way to do it is to tell them that I'm now a wizard. They won't really get or care about the whole kitsune thing, and wizard will explain away the sword wife eccentricities.
I'd prove it by inviting them into the tamer parts of Warehome. A house party with good eats, and comfy settings is the best way to introduce the families. My family is pretty crazy about food, so the ingredients from my Legend of Mana Garden should be fun and exciting for them.
I'll wait for them to settle down after that to introduce them to Toriko level food. I'll ease them into the real story as well.
Larger scale plans involve spreading FMA alchemy, the force, Scifi medicine, and reinvigorating interest in SPACE through song.
And maybe a little cult.
I fucking love space...
>>47625961
You're welcome. It's nothing to be ember-rassed over. It's a pretty hot saying.
>>47625515
You realize you can actually go to Dune and get the real thing, right?
>>47626264
There are ways to leave. Minecraft has one and any decent jumper should be making a backup plan.
>>47626299
I don't consider what he did or his intent of letting you copy Conduit valid.
>>47626199
Some people man. Just, some people.
>>47626189
>So, what does the Legend Capstone actually do, besides giving you levels? Does it actually make every single battle potentially winnable, or is that fluff?
Not entirely fluff. I based it on some of the bigger epic heroes who do take down gods, dragons, and other big shakers. However, and that’s why I worded it the way I did, none of them survived. So there’s always a chance for success, but if you push too hard then that success comes at a price. Also note that it says victory, and not kill or destroy. You might just inflict enough damage for a thing to be sealed back into its MacGuffin or banished. Both of those are canon examples of victories, they did what they set out to do, but they came at the cost of the life of the hero and his allies.
>Also, what's Dragonlance fluff like? Are martials actually capable of competing with casters?
In some cases yes and in others no. The fluff is largely 2E’ish, which is to say that at lower levels a martial can stomp a mage but as the two class archetypes scale in power that is reversed.
>We can buy the Experienced Classes perks multiple times, right?
Yes. It wouldn’t increase the qualifiable advantages given by those perks, but if you’re using the perks as levels model it would give you more levels until you hit the caps discussed earlier in the thread.
>>47625176
Steel Dragons from Dragons of Faerun. The Great Wyrm is CR 18 or 19 with a CL of 21.
>>47626294
I did, but do these look like the eyebrows of a man who is satisfied with not being a double or triple Mentat? There is never enough Mentat!
>>47626199
I don't get it.
[Zootopia]
District 11
Government Job, Andrewsarchus, Age 30 (900)
Under-appreciated Lackey (Free)
Political Face (800)
Master Plan (600)
Green Energy (300)
iCarrot Music Player (200)
DVD Collection (100)
Pawpsicles (50)
Doughnuts (0)
[Jade Cocoon]
Drawback: Beasts of Ignorance (1200)
Shaman, age 57
Divine Barrier (Free)
Behind the Throne (1100)
The Act of Gehenna (900)
Talisman of Sealing (600)
Poacher (0)
Conveniently enough, our plans for both jumps are pretty much the same: Chilling out and watching the world go by for a change, while working hard at our job. Being a shaman is pretty much the same thing as being a politician, isn't it? The difference being that angry forest spirits actually keep their promises.
Elune's gone off to have an angry word with the local creator of life in one world about appropriate divine being behavior, though. And in the other, Mother's campaigning for spiders to have equal rights. Also, the city is kind of freaking out about thousands of suddenly sentient, friendly arachnid Spider Justice Warriors campaigning for spiders to have equal rights.
Just another day in jumpchain, really.
>>47625915
>Day 1: CHAOS!
>Day 2: Burd
It looks like you've come down with a bad case of Tzeentch. Side effects may include megalomania, synaesthesia, obsessive compulsive disorder coupled with a fixation on plans and daemonhood.
>>47625791
Get working on those portals leading back to other worlds, of course. Can't leave our companions stranded on this damp little dirtball.
Oh yeah, and there's the whole bringing order to the multiverse thing. Can't just sit around forever waiting for mom and dad to pick us up, after all.
Also, reshape the stairs in our apartment into a telepad. Y'know, be productive with that resentment.
>>47626381
I think you're already mental.
>>47626391
Whenever that particular question is asked, I always make sure to post what I would do. Anon does not like my dim view of the world.
>>47626309
Have you tried not being a cunt?
Use magic then or technology. Make a new universe or world. But no that is too much work. Suicide is the best plan for you, you should go do it now.
>>47626394
What animal tho
>>47626410
Where are you getting pre-spark abilities that let you make universes?
>>47626381
If you want more multitasking, hit up Lovecraft and Matrix.
Both have multitasking perks that let you focus on/thing about 12 and 10 things at once, respectively.
Then get Memory Partition from Tsukihime so that each train of thought can focus on a bajillion individual parts of the task.
>>47626426
Not that anon.
But Rick and Morty microverse batteries do actually have a mini universe.
>>47626404
No, I just find the conversation that happens every time to be annoying. Every fucking time it's the same shit from both sides.
>>47626367
Hmm, I think springing the extra CP to be a Solar is even more efficient even if not in terms of pure CL. Miracle doesn't have a default XP cost and they get Wish 1/day as a spell like ability anyway. Plus they have regeneration that can only be overcome by evil magic.
>>47626410
>Some anon makes a statement the majority disagree with that doesn't affect them.
>People mock his stance, call him names, and tell him that his opinion is objectively wrong.
Come on guys, we're better than this.
We coulda left it at 'I disagree with you, the universe is big and huge and has lots of stuff you haven't seen yet and could be totally cool if you gave it a chance'.
But no.
We devolved.
>>47626478
Yes, but as an angel you are basically a god's brainwashed maid.
>>47626486
Half Celestials exhibit free will so there's no reason not to assume that full Celestials can do as much as well.
So, i'm importing the Sisters of Battle into Soul Eater. Could I turn half into Meisters and the other half into Weapons?
>>47626432
Nice. Thank you for the list of must jumps. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
>>47626511
>There's no reason
Except the forgotten realms lore.
>>47626512
I don't see why not.
>>47626512
that might be stretching it since they are one companion for those purposes, thusly they can only receive one origin
>>47625026
>hunks of warp energy
>warp energy
>As in energy from that horrible place where sanity and insanity go to die and green is king and bugs are socks
If the last statement made no sense its becausee thats how crazy that place is and you wish to put into something with a normal-ish mind that energy in place of their missing soul.
Now read my words again and tell me why you thought it was a good idea Anon.
>>47626486
Spending a decade like that is worth it, even assuming your pre-jump personality isn't enough to break you out of it.
>>47626568
A "Hunk of Warp Energy" is also known as a soul in 40K.
>>47626486
But is there really anything wrong with that?
>>47626512
Don't think it's technically possible to split them like that. Though they could do what Death the Kid's do and wield one another, with them all imported as weapons. They're likely to be not quite as good as a weapon/meister pair but still decent and can pull interesting tactics with it.
>>47626608
Where's this from?
And yeah, because the FR gods are assholes and will probably get you killed.
>>47626478
Not only >>47626486 but also the fact that dragons get more casting and other benefits as they grow older.
They don't really stop at Great Wyrm, there's rules to advance further. A dragon who can't die from old age basically never stops getting stronger.
Dragons also get access to the sorcerer spell list (in addition to the cleric list) which is a major factor.
Sure, Miracle can emulate most spells, but most of the you want often (Wings of Cover, Arcane Fusion) and some of the really good sorc spells are 9th level (Ice Assassin, Mind Rape, Foresight, Disjunction, Time Stop).
Steel Dragon is also pretty much the budget option. If you want to go all out with caster power take the Tome Dragon. The Great Wyrm gets CL 25, automatic knowledge of all conjuration and divination spells, free metamagic and telepathy.
There's also the Sapphire Dragon (CR19) for a psionic option if you want to go that way.
The Solar abilities are okay, but regeneration isn't that impressive. The only thing really worth it is Wish as a SLA, and that doesn't really make up for the benefits of being a dragon.
>>47626511
Celestials have free will. Angels (Solars, Planetars and Deva) do not.
>>47626570
>>47626608
Unless the god you serve commands you to pick the "stay here" option after 10 years and you can't refuse.
And again, it's not really better than a dragon. The casting is the comparable but with a worse list of spells, the stats are worse, the abilities are about on-par with the notable exception of Wish SLA. But solars have 20HD while a Great Wyrm dragon generally has 30-40 or even more.
[Penny Dreadful]
Explorer, Age 56
Survivor (Free)
Man of Action (700)
Faith (500)
An Inner Clockwork (300)
Blood Glyph (0)
It sure is a jolly fun time in Victorian England. In a bleak, gothic way. The last time we were in a Victorian England bats tried to steal our autobiography.
Hmm. You know what this place could use? More zeppelins. We're giong to open up a zeppelin productions facility specialising in Lindblum craftsmanship, and in no time we'll have big blimps absolutely everywhere to liven up the atmosphere.
Incidentlaly those blimps will be branded with angel-banishing Enochian sigils-now with 100% more Vileblood/Blood Saint glyphs. Because neither the Devil nor Dracula will be taking over this town on our watch.
Everyone is just kind of generally miserable and gloomy and snarky so we'll fit right in as the OTHER tall, dark, creepily suave nobleman from outta nowhere. Maybe masquerade as a preacher with an oddly compelling voice-hey, that's an idea. We'll be a genuine son of God pretending to be a shady commercially minded preacher pretending to be a debutante with an ominous reputation while doing the Lord's work by arming those blimps with silver, anti-magic energy field projectors and bottled sunlight.
And we're talk shop with Victor Frankenstein though; he really need to learn how to operate a Vita-Chamber before he unleashes another patchwork flesh golem with daddy issues.
>>47626617
>>47626539
>>47626552
Alright. Thanks for the help
>>47626413
http://walkingwith.wikia.com/wiki/Andrewsarchus
>>47626608
Tiny adorable angel? Sounds a lot like completely disposable to FR gods. Now go be a good soldier.
Starting a new chain along side my regular chain.
Prisoner 1134209 is prisoner in a dystopian society that executes people by sending them unequipped to alternate dimensions. By sending them to other worlds, they believe they avoid having his blood on their hands in the eyes of their god. The machine that sends him to other realities does so randomly, to avoid being seen as an outright execution machine. He has been stripped of many of his memories, including his true name. Before his incarceration and sentence, he was a soldier for the very empire that now seeks his death.
Rules:
No Companions. The Empire will execute any who come back through the portal after each jump.
No Warehouse. He only keeps what he can carry.
No Body Mod. He is a trained and conditioned soldier already, albeit one that has been incarcerated for months.
Maximum Drawbacks. The Empire is sending him to the worst possible versions of worlds that they can.
Drawbacks Standardized: Standard Limit of 1600 unless the document specifies HIGHER. No numerical limit to drawbacks, we're sending him to hell after all.
Jumps chosen by thread, out of a list I prepare.
Dice:
Overall Jump fortunes charted with a Xd100 roll where x=years in jump.
d100 roll for each drawback
Jump List
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1. Pokemon
2. Venture Brothers
3. Vampire The Masquerade
4. Infamous
5. Black Lagoon
6. Borderlands
7. Rust
8. SCP Foundation
First jump to get 3 votes is his fate. 1d8 if the thread ignores this.
>>47626686
Oh shit, there's a Penny Dreadful Jump? Sweet.
>>47626733
Let's throw this guy in off the deep end.
SCP Foundation.
>>47626733
I vote 1d8.
>>47626733
quicksilver plz
>>47626685
I didn't want to go Tome Dragon because I didn't want to look like a fishy old man.
>>47626733
Borderlands
>>47626782
Yeah i had the same reason. Also Tome Dragons are physically weak and half the reason to go dragon is to stomp shit.
I also prefer having access to the cleric list instead of free spells known and free metamagic - you can get that from classes/items.
Steel Dragons are pretty much the perfect mix of casting power and melee powerhouse for a really good price.
>>47626805
It's ok Echa, we all make mistakes.
>>47626713
Thanks for reminding me those series were a thing, I think I'm re-watch them now.
>>47626828
I went Prismatic. Less so because of the power than because of my light theme that none of the other dragons really fit. Don't know if they get any free cleric spells or whatever.
>>47626733
Vampire
>>47626113
>Being stuck in a mundane and doomed universe totally isn't a horrible thing!
I'm glad you agree. The universe is bright and full of wonders, and I can always put off my death after I've seen them all.
>>47625783
I do.
Speaking of the cake option though I wonder how it actually works. Like is there just a pile of cakes in the corner of my warehouse? A refilling cabinet of cakes?
I really hope it's just cake summoning as that'd be the funniest. You're at a Justice League meeting or something and Batman is midspeech before he notices you sitting there eating a slice of cake. And he scanned you so he knows you didn't have it when you came in.
I mean you could do it anyway with summoning powers but spontaneous cake production is a pretty funny ability.
Rolled 3 (1d3)
>>47626764
>>47626805
>>47626855
Okay, waiting for 3 votes on the same thing will take forever. I'll roll between these three.
>>47626733
>>47626764
This.
>>47626889
Be sure to take the Gehenna drawback.
>>47626828
>Reading about steel dragons
>Even bigger human fetish than silver dragons
>>47627004
Well i'd certainly rather hang out in a city and do interesting stuff instead of sitting in a mouldy old cave somewhere on my hoard of gold.
But if that's your thing i won't judge.
>>47626764
I'll also vote to send this guy to the SCp foundation. His drawbacks will give him plenty of cp to dip into perks.
>>47625372
do it
>>47625599
Worm
India
27 years old
Rogue
Outside Context Problem
Munchkin 100
Opportunist
Leave Me Alone
Nothing Personal, Just Business 250
Enlightened Self Interest 550
Best in the Business 850
Worm 900
Funds x2
Costume
Little Black Book
Business
Cape 1000
Leeroy: Villain, Tooth and Nail, Grit Your Teeth, Bolstering the Boardwalk 300, Mover - Blink
Breaker - Soft Physics
Interruption of my alphabetical buildmaking to bring you a Worm build. Read something someone said in thread a couple of weeks ago that made it sound neat.
Went Rogue unsurprisingly given my tendency of flitting between heroism and villainy.
Bought Munchkin as it seems to work well with a lot of perks but also particularly with my rolled power.
Opportunist and Leave Me Alone let me press any advantages I have and mean nobody attacks me/tries to recruit me without real cause.
Nothing Personal, Just Business means nobody holds a grudge if I fuck them over as long as I don't do it too hard.
Enlightened Self Interest is weird but interesting in that I can help myself easily by helping other people and everyone who works with me gets some big benefits.
Best in the Business means my underlings get super competent super quickly which is really nice.
Then I bought Worm as I had 50 CP left over and nothing to spend it on. It was either this or a mundane gun as Rogues get most of the 50 CP stuff free.
Funds, a Costume and the Little Black Book are nice freebies. Business is even nicer, assuming something similar pops up in later jumps anyway. Lot of business stuff here.
Also bought a companion import giving Leeroy a quicker teleport ability and greater awareness. Also Bolstering the Boardwalk which means his interests do better and his enemy's do worse, sort of the stick to my Enlightened Self Interest's carrot.
Finally my own power rolled was Soft Physics which I'm not entirely sure what it does but it sounds pretty funny. I can fold people now.
How dangerous is Warhammer fantasy - Dogs of War? I understand it's warhammer but how would it compare to 40k or another setting.
>>47627173
what is this a waifu for ants?
So... these rolls don't look great. I'm pretty sure I'm fucked. Gonna go AFK awhile to see if I can think of a way to salvage this that isn't too cheesy.
>>47627004
Ha ha, I forgot about them.
Well, that's really going to cut into my FR budget.
Importing companions there without being an aristocrat is a bitch, but it will make a nice addition to the Swiss Army Wife.
And it does improve my all my other companions as well, so it's not really all that bad.
>>47627376
Why bother? Go down in flames.
what are some good perks or powers that can be used to kill immortals?
>>47627456
If it Bleeds from 80's Action Movie and the Drop In Capstone in Banner Saga.
>>47627456
There's a good one that includes time armor in Terminator.
>>47627456
The Sword of the Cross from Dresden is one of the most powerful "fuck your anime bullshit" from the chain, assuming you go full LG.
>>47627456
Border of life in Touhou.
Skulduggery pleasant sword.
And another item in that Xena jump which was also rather helpful.
Okay, so I was reading over the Neo-Heisei Jump and I need to make sure of something here.
The Power Cosmic perk allows me to use SOLU to create and manipulate my own Switches and the technologies that use them, right? Are there any absolute limitations to this? Could I, in some way or another, imbue someone else with this power without resorting to out of Jump bullshit?
>>47627456
Touhou, Border of Life. If it can conceivably die, you know how and can probably catch them off guard as an aside.
...Shit, I didn't get If It Bleeds.
>>47627685
>...Shit, I didn't get If It Bleeds.
I hope you got the Sexual Tyrannosaurus perk, at least.
>>47627456
Highlander jump when?That was just a joke, don't lose your head over it.
>>47628129
Crux was working on one.
>>47628129
Would work better as a gauntlet tho, even a low level jumper would fuck any Immortal's shit.What would the Prize be?
>>47628152
And everyone went "that's a terrible idea, don't do it" pretty much, so I dropped it. If anyone wants to pick it up, they can do so with my blessing.
>>47628194
>that's a terrible idea
What were their arguments?
>>47628179A Freddie Mercury companion.
>>47628225
It was months ago, I honestly do not remember.
>>47628179
I don't know much about Highlanders, but aren't a Immortals just really skilled humans?
>>47628253
I believe the sequels made them space aliens.
So would powers that are normally incompatible (like plasmids/prototype abilities as a cyborg) just work via jump-magic, or would one need to change to a form that isn't affected by such incompatibilities?
>>47628253
humans can die from ways other than having their head chopped off.
>>47628268
>acknowledging the sequels
>>47628225
>>47628245
If I had to guess, maybe it's that Highlanders are possess near complete immortality?
>>47628253
They can do some weird shit too, but it is really inconsistent with it all.
>>47628301
...I don't know where that are came from
>>47628253
Pretty much, aside from being able to regenerate from any injury save having their head chopped off. Including being shot in the head.
>>47628301
Hellsing lets you become a True Vampire, much more resilient than an Immortal.
>>47628275
I don't know, but I have a suggestion.
Sausage batteries.
Cram genetically engineered totally not Tyson Chicken into life support pods, then hide them about your cyborg body.
Use space compression, if you have it.
Literally SPAM your powers.
>>47628334
Sure, but Highlander immortals are literally unkillable unless their head's chopped off. And we have plenty of perks that can negate that.
My guess is that was what the argument was, and it's possible accusations were made that Crux was trying to obtain easy pre-spark immortality. Then again, who knows?
>>47628395
>Anon looks to Anomalous Physiology and Nechronica dolls
>Looks back at anon derisively
Is anybody working on Mithermages?
>>47628406
Eh, again, this is just theorizing. Other than that, I can't think of any reason for a bunch of different anons to say "No that's a terrible idea, don't do it."
That, and I'm pretty sure Highlander Immortals healed faster than Anomalous Physiology, and Nechronica Dolls need repairs and replacement parts.
>>47628395
Or if the head is destroyed and we have loats of things like that. Immortals are so much easier to kill than lots of vampire types you can be, or shoggoths, or skeletons, or ghosts, or fucking lego people.
>>47628395
>What is an Omega level healing factor mutant?
Look, there's perks that make you far more obnoxious to kill than highlander immortals.
>>47628443
What is that?
>>47628443
>Mithermages
Never heard of it.
What's it about?
>>47628459
It took the mc from highlander a full day to heal from getting hit by a car.
>>47628443
>Mithermages
no not that a I am aware of
>>47628443
Nope.
>>47628461
>>47628473
Again, theorizing. I'm not one of the ones who were arguing it, and I can see no other reason for people to object to it.
>>47628323
Couldn't you burn them to death with any number of incendiaries? This sounds like the perfect use for thermite or something.
>>47628474
>>47628479
It's one of Orson Scott Card's works.
The gods of various mythologies (Greeks, Norse Hindu, etc) where real at one point, great and terrible mages that ruled the world and destroyed cities and countries out of wrath, greed, and negligence. (though there power was inflated in some myths) Until another one of the gods destroyed the great gates which gave them the majority of their power. Ever since that all attempts to create more have failed, the magi who tried stripped of their power. After that they've dwindled for the last 12 or 14 centuries, and have been desperately trying to regain their strength before any of the other families of gods, despite the treaties that require them to kill the type of mage that could do so.
>>47628607
I'm not sure that's ever covered in canon. Theoretically that'd work, burn them to a skeleton and dash the skeleton to bits, but that's just a very fancy way of removing their head.
What I want to know is how many Immortals are out there, trapped somewhere in a cave or crushed in the ruins of a building or on a desert island or something, unable to escape, starving to death over and over and over.
>>47628607
At the point it would kill them, you may as well have cut off their head.
That's basically what the thermite's doing.
That said, thermite is fun, and I approve of any use of it.
In FMA, I produced a series of fire arms with a selection of prescribed alchemy circles in it, to modify it's munitions.
One of the settings was thermite.
Thermite is fun.
>>47628656
That sounds awesome! Are you going to make a jump?
>>47628656
Each Mage has a very specific type of magic, and their are ranks depending on how much you can do. The magics are : Water, Wind Earth, Heat/Light/Electricity(energy maybe?), Beast, Plant, Gate and Man.
The last two are supposed to be KOS, but only man mages are -always- KOS.
>>47628728
Maybe? I was thinking about it.
>>47628697
Other Immortals would probably be drawn to them at some point, that's how the system works.
>>47628787
>Water, Wind Earth, Heat/Light/Electricity(energy maybe?), Beast, Plant, Gate and Man.
So is wind and earth combined or is that just an accident?
And do heat etc mages really get all of those spheres at once? They seem way better than others in that case.
>>47627456
That one from banner saga...
It either kills them or puts them into eternal sleep
>>47625791
Depression at having died a stupid way when being cautious and not taking drawbacks.
Followed by "Fuck This Planet", bringing out my ACU, and turning Pluto into a portal to distant planets. Then exploring until I find something to take out my anger on.
>>47628854
I can think of two canon examples. One took a few centuries to dig himself out of the cave (after decapitating the others in the cave with him, from one of the movies that didn't suck) and the other had to sit on the island until someone actually came across him years later (not sure how many years, this one was from the show). Neither were rescued by Immortals, so while it's nice to think that some other Immortal might have come across them, I don't think it to really be the case.Especially because with the ones in the cave, the remaining Immortal outside that cave thought he'd won the Game.
>>47628787
Ranks are generally W (can't do much), X friend (magic starts to be useful), Y brother/sister (magic is useful and likely powerful), Z Father/Mother (Have the full use of their magic).
All can be greatly strengthened by going through a great gate made by a Gate Father/Mother, and at that point that become something that people could see as gods. A Wind Mother could create a small tornado before going through a great gate- afterwards they could whip up hurricanes.
>>47628879
That was a mistake. And it light/electricity is one sphere. Heat/fire is another. My bad.
Gate Mages are really strong, but Man Mages are definitely the most OP. To the point that I wouldn't put it up for sale. They can control anything with sentience. A parental class is functionally immortal as far as I can tell. They can hop from body to body and have full control of their hosts body and mystical abilities.
>>47628656
>>47628787
That sounds like a boatload of fun.
>>47627173
>>47627221
I got you covered, anon.Good thing I save all pics of mai waifu.
>>47629038
What about GOTTA CATCH THEM ALL?
>>47628129
>don't lose your head over it
>>47629057
A few threads ago I was convinced into actually bringing them along.
But there's only one waifu slot, anon.
>>47629059
Poor Mami...
>>47629059
I know it bites, but try to keep your chin up.
You don't need so much weight on your shoulders.
>>47628997
>Leave here
>>47629138
It's capital punishment if you don't get ahead of yourself. Is this where you went the conversation to head?
>>47629059
>>47629138
>>47629170
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpfJxncW5MY
What are the best animal control/beast master perks ?
>>47629211
Vermin Lord from SMT is pretty awesome, but works only on one species.
>>47629211
Sexual Tyrannosaurus
>>47629244
The one in 80s Action Movie or the one in Wakfu?
>>47629211
Queen administrator from world is pretty popular.
>>47629272
Both. Neither.
In one of the earlier threads some Anon posted a method of getting companions without using pods by storing their souls inside your body using perks from FMA and some other sources. Does anyone know this method ?
>>47629315
It's called cheating.
>>47628706
Sure, that's the quicker way, but it's also the less safe way, because it gives them the chance to do the same to you. Safer to just rig a room up with incendiaries and explosives and lure them there.
>>47629315
Learn to ignore people like >>47629327 , first step of any combo.
>>47629315
If you got Dark Binding from Hellsing and murdered them before the end of the jump you could take their souls with you. Then you'd just need a Resurrection ability. DnD clerics can.
They won't really be companions though, and are likely to be pissed about the whole murdered them bit. The exposure to your soul/collection of souls is might also drive them insane, so.
>>47629315
Here's my question.
Why the hell is there so much contention over Companions.
>>47629465
>Why do people want friends?
>>47629465
It's 4chan/the internet?
>>47628997
She's going to need to wash her hair.
>>47629465
Some assholes want everybody to tote around an army in their pocket, some assholes think Jumpers should be Forever Alone, and there's a wide range of people in-between those two assholes.
And because we're on 4chan, contention is just gonna be a thing.
>>47629440
theres also the valkyrie notdarkbinding ability where you take willing souls into you and can project bodys for them to use as einherjar(though since you would still have souls for them you could still do full rezzes)
>>47629440
Or just manifest them as familiars. without actually resurrecting them. Of course, they aren't really going to have much of a life at that point, but... hey.
>>47629440
You're going D&D anyway, may as well pick up the Mind Rape spell to deal with the problem.
>>47629465
The better question is "why wouldn't you want companions?"
Leaving aside the fact that most people actually enjoy some human contact that doesn't take place through the internet, most jumps give companions more CP to spend than you spend to buy the import option.
So overall it's a net increase in available power for you. Also action economy (9 people get more done with the same powers than 1 person) and people watching your back are always good.
>>47629359
Well, meat is surprisingly resilient outside of holywood.
The amount of thermite required to reliably cremate enough of a human for this purpose would take a fair amount of volume.
That said, it's cheap and easy, and most people would not understand why the room's floor has been replaced with a grey/red sandbox until the sparklers fell down.
Fwoosh, ROOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAR!
In a few minutes, they are a large puddle of molten iron.
It is a deliciously SAW way to burninate someone.
>>47629440
At that point they're not companions though. They're just souls you carry around, so you can't use import options to get them CP and perks.
>>47629583
I have enough trouble making builds and keeping track of what happens in-Jump when all I have to account for are the locals and myself.
They might be nice, they might be useful, but Companions just aren't for me.
Even when I bought Monster Cat and used soul science/magic to give my 8 extraneous souls bodies of their own, keeping track of what nine of me would do just became a goddamn chore.
>>47629651
They're not going to care, anon. They want to feel clever for breaking rules, just let them wave their dick and move on.
>>47629651
I'm not sure why you couldn't. That's house rule territory.
But the moment you make them an actual companion they take up a slot. There's no way around that other than pods.
>>47629703
>Using a perk as intended
>OMG YOU'RE BREAKING RULES
Is this bait?
>>47629315
Trying to game the system to bring people along without them being companions is banned. You could take Dark Binding souls along if you're doing so for power, but trying to smuggle in some friends that way isn't kosher. It's a bit arbitrary I'll admit, but it serves to keep people from just completely ignoring the companion system.
>>47629731
Wrong. There are no actual bans or rules based on your intent or desires when using your perks.
>>47629731
You mean like people ignore it anyway?
>>47629731
>You're having fun wrong
>>47629731
Don't ascribe to yourself authority you've never been granted.
>>47629731
>>47629758
>>47629779
>>47629780
You all need to get a room, or a life.
>>47629708
It's pretty simple: At the time you're selecting jump options your "companions" are just souls bound to your power.
There's nothing to import, so you can't buy options for them.
Of course you could take along the souls of some guys who are already decently strong and also import 8 companions.
It's a dick move, but most jumpers are dicks anyway.
If someone wants to do it that's their business - JC is singleplayer for a reason.
>>47629624
https://youtu.be/ERJuLFpw9gU
Well time to go back to Gen. At least they're honest in jerking themselves off to collecting waifus like flavor-of-the-month toys and being unrestricted.
>>47629854
Good riddance.
>>47629836
Most import options give you brand spanking new body, so I'll have to disagree.
Not that it matters much to me. I'm don't like the idea of killing people to drag them along with me. I spent all my warehouse CP on pods anyway.
>>47629758
The basic enforced rule is that companions need to be podded or offered by the jump, with attempts to get around that being enforced by the benefactor. There's a difference between using a perk to gather souls for use in combat or magic and using the same perk to take someone's soul along because you want to make them a pseudo companion. Or are we now allowing stupid shit like unbirthing people to bring them along as companions.
>>47629819
I'm just relaying the rules as I understand them from having been around for awhile. It comes up mostly when Pods are discussed.
>>47629731
Not saying it should be encouraged but Jesus you throw the word banned around a lot.
>>47629828
Ok, internet police.
>>47629892
>are we now allowing stupid shit
wheredoyouthinkyouare.jpg
>>47629892
Nope. There are no extra rules beyond the basics. You're making it all up.
>>47629892
Stop fool, before you summon her here!
>>47629854
Every single CYOA I see here or in the general gets at least one build trying to game it to get around whatever rules it may have. I'm not sure what you think going there will change from what you see here.
>>47629896
You have used it the exact same number of times as me this thread. Just saying.
So, Jumpers.
What's the closest you've come to breaking the chain, and how much did it hurt?
I'm convinced that this was brought up to start a fight. He remembered there was a combo, but not that we have this badwrongfun argument every time it's mentioned?
>>47629892
It's really more convention than actual rules. It's gamey as fuck to circumvent the whole pod thing but it's not banned and no rules are ever really 'enforced' as such (unless by enforced you mean frequently shouted down in which case the rules on lewd jumps and multiplayer are).
Just tell the guy it's a seedy move and that it probably wouldn't work if you think that's the case and then move on, the thread really doesn't need you trying to lay down the law.
>>47630007
>pic
that is fucking disgusting,.
>>47629953
She already came here to laugh about how Red ragequit about the badwrongfun and left.Good riddance to both of them honestly.
>>47630045
>Just tell the guy it's a seedy move
Even that would be too much for the babies in this thread.
>>47629934
Not that anon, but the rules Pastebin by Quicksilver seems to suggest that Pods were made for transporting Companions you didn't pay cp for.
Therefore it wouldn't be much of a jump in logic to say that any attempt to go around the Podding process could be interpreted as cheating.
But it's a single player game and no one here actually has any authority to stop you from doing such a thing, and houserules are a thing, so there's that.
But don't expect people to accept it unless you go out of your way to say it's a houserule, because people here can be really… 'particular' about that kind of thing.
For a companion-loophole concept, I was thinking of going with the warehouse data link option that allows a connection to the jump world'ds internet or reasonable analogues. Then buying matrix pods from the matrix jumps, and getting really good at cloning and robotics, as well as soul science.
Then, companions purchased beyond 8, could remote-control a cloned cyborg version of themselves via the data link. unpurchaseable companions could be copied into soul-data, and duplicates of them uploaded into cultivated blanks. Then at end of jump, their new memories and experiences added to the archival copies of themselves. It wouldn't be the REAL version of that person, but it'd be someone with all their memories and thought patterns, free of their obligations.
>>47630098
>wouldn't be much of a jump in logic
>seems to suggest
It... Is, too much of a jump. Sorry about that.
>>47630098
It's a jump, because again anon dear, the Dark Binding perk works as is described. There are no extra restrictions applied to it based on your intent and plans to use it. Doing that is just making things up.
>>47630007
For me, it was my second jump.
Infamous. I took the Stalker drawback, and the guy took my leg off.
Only made it out alive because he did not expect my sword to be able to fight on her own.
Shit sucked bro.
>>47630071
She got better.
>>47630062
That's right anon.
Only reason for the namefagging or even chiming in on this one is that I was here since the start. If someone had banned gamey pod avoidance I'd remember it.
Unless it was in that one month where I didn't really look at the thread and spent all day every day playing Mount and Blade.
Huh looking at it Soma is one of my favourite Gauntlents (Shivers is nice too, but I like how streamlined and interesting the things in Soma are).
>>47630007
Uh.
SimAnt it was a very early jump with drawbacks, I ended up losing some of my legs there.
Thankfully I had good allies.
Now Metal wolf chaos, it was shifted into jump 09 and had me being on Team Richard and taking the being a kid drawback.
Pic related on me being an idiot and becoming small in a rather dangerous jump early on.
Four jumps later came PS238...which I am not sure how well or bad it went for now.
>>47630062
>discarding a legitimate point because of a name
I wish I could say this is the pettiest thing I've ever seen.
lol why the fuck do you nerds get so bothered over people doing shit you don't like in their own imagination
Guys, the easiest and most feasible way around the scarcity of pods is to buy as many as you can, and use NGNL's Summoning perk to rotate 7 people in and out of them as needed. Pod Text says you dismiss a companion and they get sent home to their world. Summoning from NGNL lets you call upon anyone you've met for a short period of time. Long enough to stuff them in a pod, and then the pod does the work of keeping them there.
>>47630158
>>47630071
It's been quite a few years, but as I remember it, wasn't that from a CG set where a girl's mother had her tortured, I think raped, and then slowly removed her limbs and eyes for the sake of receiving sympathy from others? Basically Munchhausen by proxy. And she never got better and was a torso for all her days.
This was edgy enough to upset people on 4chan into drawing >>47630158 as an alternative, happier ending.
>>47630203
Because they see it as a matter of what they're allowed to do in THEIR own imaginations.
Way they see it, if one guy gets to pull this trick, then everyone should. Equality before the law and all that.
>>47630204
>then the pod does the work of keeping them there.
No, that's just what you've wanked. There's absolutely nothing that lets a pod make a summon permanent.
>>47630219
Probably. I was hoping it would distract the dumb.
Oh well, I guess I'll just go get lunch instead.
>>47630219
>>47630275
Actually, just checked. No, she was tortured into this by girl Santa and her elves. So it's both silly and edgy.
What kind of lunch anon?
>>47630252
>that's just what you've wanked
Let's say he did. Does that bother you, anon?
I'm gone for all of one hour, and I get back, and you fucks are bickering over stupid shit once again.
There's no live-and-let-live, there's no keep-your-shit-to-yourself, why does this keep happening.
>>47630287
The only lunch REAL men should have.Gin and tonics.
>>47630307
If we kept all our shit to ourselves, there wouldn't be any thread. Jumpmakers don't make fast enough to support the thread on new jumps alone.
>>47630307
99.99% chance we are actual in Hell like Jacob's Ladder or some shit.
>>47630336
Whatever.
>>47630336
>spoiler
Literally who?
>>47630337
>Jumpmakers don't make fast enough to support the thread on new jumps alone.
Can't imagine why.
>>47629123
Anon, I don't know your waifu but I'm pretty sure she's got more than one slot. If she doesn't, well, I'm not one to judge tastebut then again she wouldn't be either.
>>47630369
In part because, surprise, surprise, good work takes time and Jumpmakers are human beings with other things to do.
>>47630361
Who else do you know of takes fiendish glee in trying to drive away a specific content creator?
>>47630361
the one namefag who made me look good
>>47630381
That doesn't tell me who 'Mommy' is.
>>47630336
>>47630361
bait
>>47630336
>this place feels better now.
Only to you, anon.
Riddle me this – why are you here? I mean, truly – what about this place gives you emotions?
>>47630287
Probably going to fry up some peppers to serve over polish style sausage. I traded some of my sausage to the neighbors for some of their buns yesterday.
Those old coots are /really/ good with flour, and really nice.
And since captcha had me choose a bunch of eggs, I might throw some of those on the stove too.
>>47630410
Brotherhood of Steel please go.
>>47630389
And that folks should really tell you all you need to know about this matter.
No I am serious, I remember that thread.
>>47630405
You must have been dropped in the head a lot as a child anon if thats who you think it is.
>>47630405
So who's your next target?
Which jumpmaker are you going to try and drive away next, thereby turning this place into even more of a shithole than it already is?
>>47630455
Don't bite the bait, anon.Unless getting caught was part of your plan.
Protip:Responding to shitposters turns you into a homosexual.
>>47630405
actually I was talking about mommy, red's only sins were sinking into jump balance should be a thing and that you shouldn't be comparable to protagonists, other than that she was an excellent jump maker and her loss diminishes us
>>47630123
>>47630127
Well then godspeed anons.
Now you just gotta work out the mechanic kinks involved in murdering and unmurdering your friends regularly, and hoping that they're not so 'innocent' that it 'corrupts' you.
Unless you already are, in which case, godspeed.
>>47630369
It would be ridiculous to expect that they could, and still deliver jumps worth jumping
>>47630455
You should have askedwhat the next step in his master plan was.
>>47630530
>Taking innocents out of their lives
True evil, right there.
>>47630307
Judging by a post a bit below you, a certain someone was baiting arguments on purpose.
>>47630600
Dubs confirmed.
At this point, thread's just not worth posting in lately.
>>47630574
Aren't you the Cannibal!Jumper?
Or was that Valeria?
I feel like this needs to be said, because I don't think you people realize what's at stake here.
The loss of ANY jumpmaker is a loss for the entire community. Fewer jumpmakers means fewer Jumps. Fewer Jumps means more salt and more pedantry. More salt and more pedantry means fewer jumpmakers. Repeat until the number of jumpmakers equals zero.
Zero jumpmakers means no reason for this thread to exist. No reason for this thread to exist means /jc/ dies. /jc/ dying means all of us either move back to the General and try to readjust, emigrate to SB, or simply die off.
Losing anyone, ANYONE, LITERALLY kills us faster.
>>47630574
unless you buy their souls somehow, then you are lawful evil.
thats how I get all mine at least.
>>47630530
Oh, I'd never do anything like that myself.
>>47630618
Which is what the shitposter WANTS.
But no. people would rather pay attention to the shitposter than to other discussions or content.
>>47625791
Assuming it happens in the later part of my chain, I do my best to bring the supernatural into this world, hide magical artifacts wherever I can, introduce strains of vampirism, open up magic schools, open doors to alternate dimensions in hard to reach places and leave them open, whatever possible, all while slowly bringing society to my level of technological advancement.
If it happens in the early part of my chain... I'd probably just become a hermit in the woods given that my first jump gives me all the tools I need, and continue to live inside of a fantasy in my head just like before my chain started.
>>47630472B-but what if I'm gay already?
>>47630613
Two or three good threads in a row before he showed up right at the end of this one, anon. I think they were pretty fun.
>>47630634
What other discussions? I sure don't see any.
>>47630648
You'll be gay^2
>>47630648
You'll start craving the stinky fish hole.
So a discussion came up a little while ago that had me curious: Have any of you taken capstone drawbacks? Any stories about how those went, particularly the ones you had to pull out everything and the kitchen sink for?The Other Chousin One is the literal worst thing ever and I do not recommend it to anyone.
>>47630650
The mods awoke momentarily like ancient gods and banned Scatavore's ass for a little while, that's why it was quiet.
>>47630660
Try this one on for size.
Jumpers!
You ever piss off something that completely outclassed you?
How'd it go?
>>47630699
Apokolips Now+1000
I died like three times, omega beams sting like a bitch.
If I took the Arcanist and Dreamwalker capstones from Bloodborne alongside Bloodied Combat would it be safe to say I can make my blood into an elixir that grants insight? Basically feed them enough eldritch truth that they can see the world as it is, but not so much their brain pops like a balloon.
>>47630736
Oh, yeah, let's talk about Darkseid, I'm sure that will calm down the thread.
>>47630699
>How'd it go?
Running, screaming, and bad decisions.
>>47630615
I prefer the term "psychopomp". The caveat IS there, of the paradise being inside myself, but it's a paradise nonetheless.
...The word "cannibal" does fit, admittedly, for a certain definition of such.
>>47630699
First jump of chain:Dark Soul.
Considering I kept parkouring and plinking their health away, I probably pissed off everyone.
I was being chased by other hunters and skeleton-wheels, so I consider survival to be an adequate resolution.
>>47630780
>That pic.
>>47630699
I was basically a cross between Deadpool and silver age Dr. Doom in the Marvel jump. The Avengers did not like me vary much to say the least. I still feel some of the bruises.
>>47630007
Intentionally or unintentionally?
Because I came really close to staying in Pokemon. Like incredibly close, to the degree that I flipped a coin over it. But in the end, I said fuck it and went for the slim chance that I would be able to get back someday.
Unintentionally, Platoon. Which was my fourteenth-ish Jump. The tank I was riding on took a shell during the Second Battle of MoscowIS-2 OP, plz nerfand
I ended up losing both legs. It was not a happy day.
Okay, Asura's Wrath. Are there any perks that can increase the range of your natural mantra absorption beyond 1 mile?
I'm planning on travelling to different worlds, and while I can see the advantage of setting up all the mantra transmitters, I don't want to take advantage of their deep depression for too long, and I'm planning on actually helping everyone I come across get better, so the statues will likely not be efficient for long enough to warrant actually making them, and they'd would just take up too much space and give people a worse impression of me.
>>47626608
Is it wrong I want to get something like this as a companion somehow? Ummm... where could I get an adorable angel creature that could fit in the palm of my hands as a companion or pet?
>>47625026
...Iiii don't know if that'd work
Plug n Play works for power sources when it comes to things like magic and technology, you're asking me
"Can i replace someone's heart with like a really strong pump"
I mean it's theoretically possible??
but doing it in a way that doesn't fuck errything up may be the tricky part.
>>47625091
I didn't mean to word it like THAT correctly, I meant to say any jump builds that are non-Kamen Rider will be removed.
I just don't wanna make it sound too mechanical/meta you know? But I can clarify that.
You'll keep any gear you have that was gotten from a kamen rider jump/scenario/DLC under this clause, and anything you've made that was derived from Kamen Rider crafting perks should remain
So the warehouse and body mod remain, but anything non-rider that you get after that is removed for a bit
The things you'll get from the scenario are strong but they'll either have a built-in limitation (such as requiring vast amounts of cell medals to fuel) or a higher cost for it
You misunderstood
you start OFF with 500
and then depending on your choices in the scenario will either have 0 to spend(if you buy back your non-rider powers), 500 to spend(if you claim the throne), or 1500 to spend(if you destroy the throne)
I'll try to be more clear about that, I apologize.
In exchange for your patience, have the Jazz Magnum's inspiration
>>47631092
>an adorable angel creature that could fit in the palm of my hands
Are you an Eva?
>>47631131
God fucking dammit, this is my post, I'm just a dumb.
>>47631195
It's gonna be okay man.
>>47630842
> not posting the gif
What are you, some kind ofPNGas?
>>47631390
Either way, it reminds me that I need to check out what Pinkett's doing with the new mary su- I mean, movies.
>>47625791
GOD.FUCKING.DAMNIT!
I HATE THIS FUCKING SHIT-HOLE. NO! FUCK YOU ALL! I'M GOING TO FUCKING SPACE AND MAKING MY OWN GOD DAMN WORLD.
I have anger issues.
>>47630007
You Made Her Cry. Or Light of Terra in general.
Both jumps were absolute misery.
>>47630802
I have been trying to find it but cant, what kind of art is this? people made of space and magic and stuff I mean. I need more.
>>47631587
>You made her cry
Y-you actually took that drawback? Are you insane?!
>>47631634
'Tis is not the first time you are asking that question, is it, anon?~
Sorry yet again, but I know not of a particular resource.
>>47631195
1. So that would include stuff that was purchased with CP in the warehouse wouldn't it? Also would this affect your companions or just you, because at present it only specifies you, was that intentional?
2. I think it would be okay to get technical in the notes section if you don't want to get technical in the DLC proper.
3. Okay so if it incorporates kamen rider technology it's safe, good to know
4. Does that include things outside of builds like martial arts you've trained in or stuff gained in universe? And when you say warehouse remains does that include add-ons and their contents? Because I have a couple of ACUs one of which can mass-produce Alpha lanterns and that is certainly not in the spirit of this. 5. Good to know looking forward to seeing the rewards
6. It happens, that's why i ask questions, thank you for being patient with answering so many questions.
Also I looked up my builds for kamen rider
and I do have a couple of combat powers and an item
Animal themed Powers:dung beetle strength
Olympian:Aikido &Bartitsu ,shotgun
How screwed am I?
Posting revised Schlock mercenary jump draft.
Comments?
>>47631655
Let me answer you question with something that has happened several times over the course of my adventures.
Random Person: Is he completely insane?
Alice:Yes
Mera:Yup
Trisha: Of course
Kocho:I wouldn't call him "insane".
Sarah:Completely out of his mind.
Anyone know of any low-powered jumps where you can pick up immortality or at least immunity to aging?
Wait if reds gone does that mean no warframe update?
>>47631727
change log? Also have a build for the earlier version
Tentative build for Schlock Mercenary: The Teraport Wars Jumpchainv0.1
A contract and a grudge +300:The gavs think I'm Teri and are very afraid
Mindrip target.+300:The partnership drone collective
rolling location: Roll(1d8)+0:1,+0 Total:1 =1.Mahuitalotucocobanatuituimayabohu.
Civilian free not my favorite but it has the discounts I want
Artificial intelligence -400 always fun call me Dr.FABulous
Everyone needs a hobby: memetic engineering free for civilian steer how societies think
The infantry doesn't need a dog that barks”hello, world” -200 discount civilian necessary for fabrication robot
resident mad scientist -300 discount civilian necessary for jumper science
Handbrain free for everyone new smart phone
Fabber-bot -300 I'm going to need a body and this is the best one for my plans
Industrial Fabber unit -400 discount for civilian mass production is wonderful
#The plan: first I'm upgrading this body new body with supreme commander Quantum relays, and working with Leonardo da Vinci to miniaturize the dark star generator and engineering suite rolling for engineering suite Roll(1d100)+0:77,+0 Total:77, so looks like I'm unable to fit that much creation into this small a body, what if I tried to scale down its area of effect as well? Like say elephant size instead of building? Roll(1d100)+0: 38,+0 Total:38 looks like it works.
rolling for dark star generator. Roll(1d100)+0: 27,+0 Total:27 but I can still harness nearly unlimited resources rolling for quantum relay Roll(1d100)+0: 18,+0 Total:18 now you're familiar with distributive computing right? Any one of these can run my mind, in fact every one of these does simultaneously allowing for more and more processing as more and more units are created, each unit is capable of creating a duplicate of itself in under a minute continuously for its entire operational lifespan, each of which is synced with every other unit all running me
>>47631733
Symbiote. It's one of their purposes, just jump to Europe as its not really mentioned in the stories from what I've heard. Also you gain access to a super computer that is helpful in most all situations.
>>47631752
No. No, it does not.
>>47631782
>Symbiote
>Low-powered
>>47631752
Yes.
Pick it up anon.
Give us something good.
>>47627181
Biomega
19 years old
Drop-In
The Kozlov Factor 300
Reload 1100
Hunted 1000
Didn't know what this was and couldn't really work it out through google.
So I chose something which lets me copy and paste people's brains into bears and something that lets me emit plastic that can be used to make things that are fookin huge.
Drawback means I'm occasionally going to get shot.
>>47631752
But anon,she's not dead.Even now, there is hope for man.
>>47631752
It's still being worked on; she hasn't left.
>>47631821
You have contributed nothing of value to this community. You are cancer, you are rot, and you want nothing other than to see this CYOA die. That's what you've been campaigning for since this thread was barely out of single digits.
Fuck off, it won't work.
>>47631900
Don't feed it.
Report it.
Ignore it.
>>47631924
>not taking the bait
>not enjoying your anger
>>47631959
Red isn't gone.
She'll be back eventually.
She still hangs out in the IRC, apparently, so that's a good sign, I suppose.
>>47631970
You 'enjoy your anger' at the expense of the rest of the thread, destroying /jc/ a little in the process. You're helping it win.
>>47632004
That second quote is a new IP trying to be cute, not the person you were talking to.
>>47631970
>not posting the pic
>>47631959
She isn't gone. She is most likely tired at that one anon badgering her every single thread but she isn't gone.
>>47631844
Do you know Blame? Same guy but faster-paced.
>>47630007
Tried to kill myself in Infamous. Didn't work. Too many survival perks. :/
It was only my second jump and I'd taken the PTSD identity combined with all three "your Conduits are broken and addictive and suck" drawbacks. I couldn't take it. Ended up turning myself in and letting the penal system handle my needs.
>>47630814
Is parkour a Dark Souls perk? O.o
>>47631713
1. It would include CP-purchased stuff I think? I'm trying to make it so it's not super limiting but the main intention is that you come at this with the resources a Rider would have. Your companions are also affected, that was actually me forgetting about them
2. Fair nuff
4. It won't get rid of things you've learned, but it will get rid of any perks that made them effortless. Not sure about the add-ons yet, but I'll think it over.
6. You have a solid base but you might want to get your companions and/or something together for this
The purchases in the jump andpossible companions who'll join you vs. The Mad King who won't count towards the companion limit for the duration of the DLC
may even things out for you though.
>>47632200
You don't need a perk for everything you do. Maybe he already knows parkour.
>>47630007
Darkest Dungeon.
It was really bad, in ways even a new body and new mind didn't fix for quite a while. My jumper self wishes it was only as bad as that pic.
>>47632295
Fair point. Scary place to do it in though.
>>47632366
Lots of motivation for nimbly gtfoing though.
>>47631733
Chronicles of Narnia has "Narnian Time" which, amongst a host of other things, let you change the rate of your own aging including stopping it completely.
>>47632200
There's one in pokemon.
>>47632474
Sure is, but anon stated Dark Souls was first jump in chain.
And now you know the rest of the story. Good day!
>>47632203
1. I know this is getting technical and I apologize ,What about stuff derived from CP purchased stuff or ending rewards i.e. the entire Bay that I've converted into a star trek replicator on the LoT before I imported it as a ACU?
>4. It won't get rid of things you've learned, but it will get rid of any perks that made them effortless. Not sure about the add-ons yet, but I'll think it over.
A. so I would still know those martial arts I learned the hard way from my Masters in Wuxia? And the several centuries of sword and shield fighting?
B. that's fair
C. so that would include mental things? I'm not just talking intelligence boosters but willpower boosts would be gone as well?
6. Not sure how much that will help, since I didn't import them in the other two jumps and there aren't combat perks in this one although I could get most of them belts, would they at least retain any abilities they started with that were not part of a build? i.e Pam's fighting skills and espionage training, Monique's Pokémon moves, Dante's demonic martial arts and Sparta,Saitama being Saitama etc.?
If so what about companions who were part of a build such as fate servants?
>>47632485
Didn't even notice.
>>47632485
There is Parkour in the body mod though.
>>47632485
>>47632474
>>47632295
>>47632200
> Already knows parkour
Maybe once I lose a little bit more weight and continue my goal of swolitue.Already down 50-60 pounds, just about 30 more to go and more muscle building.
But nah, I went athletic for Body Mod and dumped into Dex. Because I gotta go full Mirror's Edge if I want to not get crushed/eaten/stabbed/spooked in Dark Souls.
Someday I will upload my builds and write-fagging.But still got several finals to finish, so I GOTTA GET A GRIP.
>>47632752
Don't you only get body mod after 1st jump?
>>47632767
No, after pokemon. If you do not take pokemon...
>>47632746
>>47632752
Ah, didn't realize people were running bodymod/warehouse before their first jump. Makes sense.
>>47632774
I thought it was before pokemon.
>>47632784
Pokemon is the first jump so no.
>>47632774
Wait, really? Warehouse too?
>>47632842
Yes.
>>47630007
Jump #4, Tomb Raider. At this point all I really had was Sims 3 magic and hammer space, no healing abilities.
Was exploring ancient ruins when I stumbled upon Nazis attempting to create an invincible army of the dead. Unfortunately someone read the wrong inscription and the mummified guardians of the temple woke up and started hacking away at everyone.
One bastard jumped me and stabbed a spear in my shoulder before I shot him in the head and set him ablaze with a fireball. Managed to grab some explosives from a dead Nazi and blew a hole in the temple wall to jump through before his friends got me. Unfortunately I was high enough off the ground to break my arm and collar bone when I landed.
Took days in the jungle before I got back to civilization where a backwoods doctor/medicine man could rest my bones.
And thus my dislike of zombies became a burning hatred.
>>47632767
>>47632774
>>47632783
>>47632784
>>47632797
I ran it before because I am a terrible cheating bastard who laughs at rules.Instead I just wank it as JC wanting to have mercy on me since I can't choose where to go. Random jump mode ftw.Pic related, my entire attitude during Dark Souls.
>>47632872
No worries. I wouldn't do it that way personally but with what I do to Companion rules, I'm the last person who'd give a crap.
>>47632503
1. Stuff derived from other CP purchased stuff wouldn't work, as well as other jump's ending awards
4.
A: You would, yes
C: Yep, that'd be the case
6. Hm...wwwwilll say that anything they have is reduced down to human levels for this scenario, though they may keep vestiges of it. (Saitama, for example, would probably be like Hina where he's stronger than normal but not One Punch as usual, and Dante probably knows effective martial arts but not to the level of norma)
I think companions who were parts of builds like that would be fine, but the above applies to them. Nonhumans who's existence relies on something not-normal to exist (a la undertale monsters or being a Skullgirls Parasite) get human gijinka-ish forms to compensate
Definitely getting them belts and weapons is good
And they will also be able to get some power ups from the gear i'm giving, which include knighting people into Silverides(on the tier of Birth Prototype) or giving all of your allies 1/3rd the power of a Core medal combo
So for those of you who jumped Dark Souls, what did you wank happens after the Chosen Undead links the fire/becomes the Dark Lord?
>>47632947
I chose that they didn't exist.
I thought we had a shin megami tensei nocturne jump. Do we have one and I am missing it or was I just out of my mind being stupid again?
>>47632947
That's my cue to not be anywhere near there.
>>47632999
Hasn't been made yet.
>>47631752
She's still here, in the irc and was still working on the update last night. Almost done with various tables on the thing.
>>47631782
Unless your name is Bob or Alice, it really is.Given they went on to become quantum gods and then split off their humanity into flesh bits.
>>47632130
It's 90% done already, anon. Not happening.
>>47632947
Considering the limited experience I have with Dark Souls beyond "places I don't want to be, but still end up there in Jump #1", I'm not exactly an expert on how absolutely fucked I am.
That said, after being pursued by hunters and chased by skeletons tied to fucking wheels, my philosophy is "eh, sometimes shit happens". So run and pray.
>>47632947
If the Choosen Undead links the flame things gradually recover. Undead can die again and Hollows quickly die off, civilization starts to rebuild, the cycle repeats.
If the Chosen Undead goes Dark Lord the world tries and fails to enter an Age of Dark because the fire can never truly fade, only fade to embers. The Chosen Undead eventually hollows out because despite becoming the Dark Lord he's still afflicted by the curse, someone else will eventually link the flame, see above.
>>47632940
next question, 1.why did you decide not to offer actual close combat fighting skills? That seems like a weird choice for a Kamen Rider jump, I'm not trying to get you to change your mind about that I'm genuinely curious about that design decision.
>>47633139
Why does Chalk Outline Hitler look so sad, though? I mean, that guy is helping him, right?
>>47632940
oh! 2. You previously mentioned you were going to include a list of which of the movies you thought were Cannon, could we expect that anytime soon? What about the web episodes?
>>47632862
Hope the hammerspace isn't from Sims 3 because I'm pretty sure you don't get it.
You can get inventories or things like that from Borderlands, Minecraft, Terraria, I think Darkstalkers, Fate jumps sort of, and probably quite a few other jumps besides those, but not in the Sims 3.
>>47633239
because as a ghost he knows he is history's most hated man, has lost everyone he loves, and has seen his Empire crumble, if I were Hitler's ghost I'd be depressed
>>47633239
Because the confidence he usually has is a mask, and now everyone can see right through it!
>>47633239
>>47633277
Or you could chalk it up to the guy just being mad he can't drive any more.
>>47633239
I think it's less sad, more constipated. And frustrated that Joe Schmoe is only going 15 in a 25 zone.
Really shouldn't have eaten the extra bratwurst.
Okay, /jc/.
Red Stone of Aja and a Stand for myself, or Arrowhead and 100 CP of other stuff?
>>47633385
Just steal the arrowhead. Honestly, getting rid of stands from that setting will save alot of people a lot of headaches.
>>47632940
>oh! 2. You previously mentioned you were going to include a list of which of the movies you thought were Cannon, could we expect that anytime soon? What about the web episodes?
Also what about the anniversary episodes of OOO, because that's gonna play out really differently with me involved.
>>47633385
if you you are certain you have the spiritual power the second one, that contact book and weapons cache are pretty handy, otherwise the first one
>>47633422
There is more than one arrowhead.
I think there are six.
>>47633259
Came form different jump
>>47632947
I went with the maximum wobbly time trippy adventure, so I just ran around killing doods and making friends.
Swiss Army Wife and I be all
http://youtu.be/2kr7KDCsIws
I've never lost a bloodstain, so the lethality was a bit downplayed in my eyes. Death was more of a painful setback.
I spent all of my non drawback CP picking up Priscilla, Quelaan, and Brolaire.
NO REGRETS!
>>47633613
I only got to meet Priscilla and Brolaire. Not Quelaan.
>>47633771
All you gotta do is stab her sister in the face.
>>47625522
What I'd like to know is whether the STCs it makes are the real-deal original-edition golden-age kind or the pale-imitation current-day crapsack-age kind.
Because the former is apparently a Halo-level Dumb AI, specialised around "teach any random pleb what they need to do to build a device of fixed type X at variable tech level Y with variable constraints Z", in a piece of AR-capable computronium that could be held in your hand.
While the latter is apparently a hard-copy in which X, Y and Z are all fixed and if you don't know how to follow the exact 128512 steps it lists, that's just too bad.
For 800CP one would hope it's the former, but...
>>47633787
True enough. But I don't WANT to stab the lady who just wants to protect her sister.
>>47633230
Because most of that stuff is handled by the belts?
The MCs are most-often not at all trained in combat
Gentaro's a high school dude, Eiji's a hobo who might've been in warzones but wasn't a soldier or a martial artist
Shotaro's a detective, not even hardboiled either
The focus is gear and gimmicks here, not combat ability
>>47633246
I'm thinking it over, I might be running over some of the scenarios but
it will be added in the imaging update!
So far, I'm thinking MegaMax and Wonderful, thinking it over at the moment!
>>47633806
By killing people for their humanity. You really need to use those charisma perks if you don't want anyone to die.
