Magic: The Gathering Modern General
(competitive discussion)
>Playing?
>Brewing?
>Next MTG Purchase?
GP Charlotte and GP Los Angeles weekend.
The current Modern Metagame is below.
![1463845144528[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/43r0Ums.jpg "1463845144528[1].jpg")
Still waiting on info on these sweet looking "proxies"
>>47369268
>Brewing?
I'm bringing something like this to the card shop in due time, sans Liliana. Basically a shitty Jund since I want to spend thousands of dollars on other things
>>47369302
Trying to upload without the pics fucking out.
I'm gonna check my history on aliexpress and let you know.
>>47369302
>Advice for any1 who wants to buy proxies
Don't buy blue or white core, just black core
Always ask the seller for the latest batch, this is most important when you are buying sinlgles
Buying sets is obviously cheaper, and buying 4 sets could give you almost all the staples for 200 dollaridoos, but not all cards are the same quality. so be aware of that
>>47369302
Looks like one of the stores changed the name to SNOW PLAYMAT
I bought a set of revised duals (1 each) for $22.00. I believe this was the same order as this dual.
>>47369399
>1 Lili
What's the point?
Is this the Modern general or the fucking proxies general
>>47369598
Last modern general deterred off into proxy talk.
What's everyone speccing on for this weekend? Fuck Nahiri. Give me some real specs. Got a set of grave trolls and 24 amalgams coming in. Hope dredge has a strong showing.
>>47369630
>memedge
Should have bought Pharika, she got mentioned as the super spicy silver bullet for Abzan Company in the board in a comprehensive SCG article. Wouldn't be surprised if she was a mainstay.
GP LA stream up now, Spartz and LSV commentating
twitch tv channelfireball
Here's hoping Zac Elsik wins another one with Lantern and collects those sweet tears.
As a normie I love playing stuttering social retards. Really fucks up thier game. Get my wife to come by and kiss me and say hi to my son, have bachelor's and a good job, speak like a normal human being in normal social situations.
Really fucks them up and makes them super upset so they try that elite nerd shit and I laugh.
Not the guy from above, but here's a detail of two BBs. Top one is real. The color difference does really depend on whom you order from.
On aliexpress stores:
Gathering House is shit. Plasticky poker cards, with the color either too dark (Liliana) or too light (abrupt decay). Would not use.
Liquid Cocoa Mall is shit. They send out the exact same stuff as Gathering House.
Black Lotus. Used them for their fetches, which look pretty great aside from the Onslaught ones. Nobody can quite seem to do the Onslaught fetches: they're far too dark.
Best Shopping Centre. Best product IMO. Best color, best card-feel, best thickness. I'm going to buy more from them. Fetches certainly, but also try out some Legacy stuff.
The good thing with Aliexpress is that, from my experience, if you bitch and moan enough about their product in the review of it, they will likely offer you 'a refund' which they (in their chinaman lack of precision with English) use to mean a 'partial refund'. But if you take it to arbitration, the arbiters from aliexpress side with you and give you the full refund. Make sure to keep the email trail of evidence, because you can screenshot that shit and use it as evidence.
Should I build grixis with dank dwellers and AV or mardu with Bob, Lili and low to the ground
>>47369598
>>47369630
Fucking butthurt as hell. Eat shit people can talk about whatever the fuck they want. Dumbasses.
I don't even use proxies and I want to talk proxies now because of you fuckwits.
Villa Zhongs get any better?
>>47369906
>say hi to my son
You mean say hi to your wife's son.
>>47369946
Make a proxy general then
>>47369918
Sweet. Thanks dude. Daddy needs a manabase
>>47369919
I try and answer last thread question: robby snap-trousers, since graxes can be blund.
>>47369662
Fuck. Totally blanked that company can get pharika. Thats interesting.
>>47369686
>Spartz
Proof that having a vagina can get you a job. Everybody be talking about male privilege... right.
>>47369918
It's so weird that I don't feel guilty buying and selling fakes (as real)
But taking advantage of the Chinamen that produced these products seems wrong to me.
I'm morally fucked.
>>47369906
Feels awkward to me. And I've one upped you, my girlfriend plays. Has decks that easily out value most others in value and playability. It's like people don't know how to react. Luckily it's rare where I'm from, but when it happens it weirds me the fuck out.
>>47369993
>Proof that having a vagina can get you a job.
Did you just assume xhe's gender??? I bet you are a white hetero male.
>>47370182
I appreciate the sarcasm.
But fuck this world becuase people do actually think like that.
>>47370301
And without sleeves.
You can still see the difference either way, but if you were playing a full playset of them, without any real ones in the mix, I'd be hard pressed to tell the difference.
>>47370318
When there's that much difference you almost have to go all fakes.
>>47370264
Just remember that most people, like you, see them as yapping chihuahuas and nothing more.
>elantris
>gf of one of the best mtg pros ever
>she can get the best training and cards possible
>gets featured because she's a grill
>gets completely smashed by a meme deck
>tanks for X minutes only to do complete punts
>plays bad cards and doesn't play good cards
Like I have nothing against women in MtG, but at least when selecting a feature match, you shoud get one that knows her shitif there would be one
this is just embarassing for everyone, elantris, viewers and wizards
>>47370318
left one is fake, I think?
also /r/bootlegmtg
>inb4 leddit
I know, but there are some good threads and detailed reviews
>>47369986
I wish I knew what you meant by this
>>47370301
>>47370318
I honestly can't tell.
>Swing with Emmy
>Still manage to lose
>>47370399
Yapping chihuahuas can get pretty annoying.
Lol banned becuase i backed a guy up who had criticism about Gabby.
The irony is real when you point out that if your a white male you get censored, and then they ban you.
>>47370318
Legit magic cards can look off too so if you have one of those in a deck with 3 real ones it won't be enough to accuse you unless they force you to take the card out of the sleeve and inspect it further.
>>47370521
They are. But you also learn to disregard them because that's all they do.
>>47369274
I'm playing infect as my first modern deck
wanting to get a second deck
Should i getabzan liege/Wilted Abzan?
>>47370037
Not really.
The MTG secondary market is fucked, so getting around it using proxies is easy to rationalize.
The Chinese guys who make the proxies are probably poor and do this work alongside their soul-crushing assembly line jobs, so screwing them out of a few dollars just because you're THAT cheap feels wrong.
Honestly Spartz is ok, she has fine synergy with LSV.
>>47370609
That's what we think. but we don't know if they can already do perfect copies, and profit both from their mistakes and their succes
I don't sell the cards but i trade them to get what i need, i trae scalding tarns and blood moons that are the best i get
>>47370617
the thing is she got the job literally only because she's an attractive white female
there are tons of people who would do her job MUCH better
>>47370634
Not denying that she got priority because of tits. But it could have been much worse.
>>47370633
>I don't sell the cards but i trade them to get what i need
That's the only thing that's actually wrong, because you're lying to other players AND taking advantage of them.
>>47370674
>Is more wrong to get their cards that their money
Its a thing of perspective. i'm trading cardboard for cardboard that costed the same to produce. not cardboard for paper that has legally a value of acquisition in other context besides the hobby.
>>47370700
Same argument can be said of counterfeit money
>>47370700
No, it's more wrong to trade OR sell the proxies than to buy or use the proxies, you mong.
Selling fakes to people makes you worse than the Chinese. It makes you a thief.
Where do I go to discuss modern?
Not interested in hypothetical counterfeit talk
>>47370750
What do you want to discuss?
>>47370750
There's plenty of posts not related to modern. Youre choosing not to get involved with them.
>>47370723
Magic cards aren't legal tender.
Are Villa counterfeits the best? Anyone here order dual lands from him?
>>47370700
Legally the market value that you scam people of whether cardboard, plastic, dogshit willl be used to determine your punishment/crime. So just because it's cardboard for cardboard and not cardboard for money doesn't make it legally any better unless you explicitly tell them it's fake. And obviously you're already a morally bankrupt dong.
>>47370700
yeah you're walking the slippery rope
if you only use fakes yourselves and get caught, you can probably get away with it
if you sell fakes to other people, you'll be a pariah and chances are charges will be pressed, because what you do is scamming.
if you want to get out, just go to everyone you traded the fakes and tell them your source of cards was getting you fakes and you discovered it only now, and then reverse the trade. it won't be pleasant, but it won't get you in jail.
>people still mad about cardboard
It's a game. Cards are playing pieces for a game. Would you feel bad buying a knockoff version of Cluedo?
Holy fuck.
Any diversity talk is getting banned in chat.
I don't even know anymore
>>47370849
Nobody is going to jail over cardboard, dumbass.
>>47370758
Not him but I'd like to discuss the other wedges.
Temur, grixis, mardu
Very interested in dwellers and vision now too
>>47370906
then post a deck/thing you want to discuss
three keywords won't make it buddy
>>47370849
>>47370901
Yea, I made about 3 grand selling fakes.
Using human proxies of course, at WORST you can plea ignorance.
You could probably fight it and say you sold them as real and they swapped with fakes.
There's really no way to lose. Besides maybe getting caught locally and having rep tarnished. But that still dosent stop you from selling online.
>>47370936
There are no legal precedents/basis about this stuff which is always a huge risk. If shit hits the fan, I'd hate to be in your position, since you might very well walk free, but also go to jail.
Also how do you want to plea ignorance? Judge will ask how you acquired the fakes for below market price, so you could sell/trade them.
is this deck good?
2 Birds of Paradise
4 Loxodon Smiter
4 Noble Hierarch
2 Qasali Pridemage
2 Scavenging Ooze
4 Siege Rhino
4 Voice of Resurgence
3 Wilt-Leaf Liege
2 Anafenza, the Foremost
3 Forest
2 Plains
1 Swamp
2 Gavony Township
1 Godless Shrine
1 Overgrown Tomb
2 Razorverge Thicket
1 Stirring Wildwood
2 Temple Garden
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Windswept Heath
2 Abrupt Decay
4 Path to Exile
4 Lingering Souls
>Sideboard
2 Engineered Explosives
1 Choke
2 Leyline of Sanctity
2 Rest in Peace
2 Stony Silence
2 Fracturing Gust
2 Zealous Persecution
2 Thoughtseize
>>47370503
People that call Emrakul, Emmy need to die.
>>47370991
>There are no legal precedents/basis about this stuff which is always a huge risk.
There's no legal precedent because nobody has ever been charged for selling colored cardboard.
>>47371061
Yet. That's the point. You might piss off wrong people, a judge might see an opportunity to get popular, etc. There are many stuff that can happen and which will result in you being prosecuted.
>>47370617
Honestly, she is pretty terrible, very inarticulate. Admittedly, she is more tolerable than that Sutcliffe guy and his endless phony enthusiasm.
>>47371061
>There's no legal precedent because nobody has ever been charged for selling colored cardboard.
http://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/index.ssf/2014/09/vintage_baseball_card_scammer.html
>>47370991
>Sell fakes
>Hey anon these are fake, I want my money back
>Nope.jpeg
>Summon the fuzz
>Anon did you sell fakes to this man
>No they were real, he is trying to scam me
>Goes to court
>Anon did you know these were fake
>No, they were real. He switch
>Anon did you switch
>No, he's lying
>Case dropped. Gtfo out of my court room
>>47370535
Was Gabby the cunt that made a big stink about evil white males and their toxic masculinity on CFB a while ago? I'm pretty sure it was her. May have to mute the stream now.
>>47371139
>implying the prosecution won't get a professional to figure out if the cards are fake
>implying they won't tear the cards to look for the blue layer
>>47371137
The rube sent them $60k, and the scammers didn't send anything back.
They weren't charged for selling counterfeits. They were charged for pocketing sixty grand.
>>47371147
i think it was on scg, jim davis started it and I am not sure who reacted back. maybe melissa.
>>47371170
if you can piss off wrong person it can happen. for example a son of someone important in the legal system.
>>47371170
I'm not debating that the cards would be fake. Of course they are.
I could plea of ignorance, probably wouldn't work.
Or accuse him of stealing my cards and swapping with fakes.
All id need is some well documented evidence which is easily done buy purchasing duals from reputable sources. I'd be making the money back from selling the fakes anyways.
>>47371147
Gabby and Melissa are both trash. Only used to checkbox the diversity quota.
I'm trying to get into Modern. Unfortunately I chose an enemy color to begin with.
Holy fuck, why are fucking lands so expensive? I'm okay with Goblin Guides and other creatures or spells being expensive, but lands?
Goddamit.
>>47371114
A bud of mine got caught at GP Toronto a year or two ago with fake Fulminator Mages. He feigned ignorance, and the organizers forced him to buy new ones from vendors or trade for them if he wanted to continue the tournament, which he did.
What no judge who inspected his deck caught was that all of his Lilis, Goyfs, and 90% of his manabase were all counterfeits. Walked out of there free with his DCI membership in good standing.
>>47371262
How he got caught? Random deck check? How good/bad the Fulminators were? I'd imagine they had to be pretty sloppy, since it's hard to tell a double sleeved fake during a regular deckcheck.
>>47370604
I think that depends on what your goals are. Do you just want a fun deck?
Do you want a second deck to beat the metawhen it adjusts, making infect bad? If thats the case, i would maybe build black green infect, as it seems better able to beat control. Or maybe Tron or Scapeshift if Jund is a problem for you.
>>47370700
I would fistfuck your face if i had the chance.
>>47370426
Left one is real, actually. The fakes tend to go darker—which sometimes makes them look 'better' (or at least crisper) than the real ones.
>>47370371
To be safe, for sure. But I play these in a burn deck, so I've been without incident so far with them mixed with reals. They all go to the graveyard anyways, and stack up on one another.
>>47371298
They were really bad. The text was as blurry as parkinsons photography. It was actually an opponent who brought them into question.
The upside was that the judges expected all fakes to look as shitty, so the bright fetches/shocks and dark Lili/Goyfs got an instant pass.
>>47371363
You can't really identify a fake only because of it's brightness, since real cards are wildly inconsistent, too. Also it's only really visible when you directly compare the cards unsleeved.
If you have decent double sleeved fakes, presumably even the matte ones, you are completely safe.
What decks can you play now that you couldn't play because of Splinter Twin?
>>47371778
I know you're going for the metaphorical approach, but maybe Living End since it lost its worst MU and 3 mana wraths on turn 2 seem okay in the current meta, even though it was playable with Ricochet Trap in the sb back in the day as well.
>>47371778
bant chaff drum, the you know one with the combo mana trio with all the in place pieces for the turn second.
>>47370471
as i say then: you must usually wizard the rabby snap-trousers if you are make the grixis become good. so that is why i make you the goplin dark dwllers proposition in choice of graxes
thoughts?
does anyone have any decent decklists for a kamigawa snakes deck?
whats a good number of
>land
>spells
>creatures
to have in a deck?
>>47372086
thanks senpai
>>47372100
>>47372024
lul
>>47372009
But mardu gets gdd as well
Just in via text from a friend at Charlotte, Pairing system glitched in round four and pairings for the whole round were unweighted. he was 3-1 against a 2-2 player, happened to the whole main event. Apparently they offered free challenge event entry to anyone that wanted to drop. then and there.
>>47372032
>theming your deck around a single set
>in a non-Standard/Draft format
Why do people do this? You're just going to end up neutering yourself all for the sake of getting to jerk off to some Japanese themed western art.
>>47372480
what would you suggest I do then?
>>47372480
>Japanese themed
It's Chinese you retard
>Tron player has few islands out and two pieces of urza.
>Liliana has been stripping his hand down, last card in hand is mindslaver
>Liliana is at ult range
>tron player top decks tower to complete tron, slams mindslaver
>With the mindslaver turn he ults lilly on its owner. Splits the pile all and none. Sac's the dude's whole board.
that was brutal
>>47372529
Leave theme decks/tribal decks to commander and casual unless its fish or elves.
>>47372536
>It's Chinese you retard
whenever i feel bad, i will look back to this post and remember i will never be as autistic as you.
thank you.
thing its worth it for around 20$ for 4 of these
>>47372024
You fucking retarded casual. Are you autistic? You think you can just spend that much mana on something with no immediate value?
Maybe at the kitchen table at the psych ward you can do that, where the quadriplegic can't respond with removal becuase he can't hold his hand.
But not in the big leagues buddy. Not a fucking chance. Even the thought of seeing this card across from me makes me feel sick. I'd actually feel bad last picking this in draft. Let alone playing it in standard.
Take your inbred shitty casual mentality and get the fuck out of this thread you man child. Let real players talk about the game and keep your filthy fat fucking mouth shut next time.
Asshole.
>>47372649
>>47372649
>But not in the big leagues buddy. Not a fucking chance.
Thanks big bro.
>>47369379
There are touhou sleeves? Me want
>>47372746
I got some blue and black ones with marisa on them for my UB reanimator legacy deck
>>47372649
>you will never be this mad at a post
>you will never type out paragraphs in anger on an anonymous image board
>you will never be this mad about a card game
feels good
>>47372649
Good post. Have a complimentary anime with your (you).
Watching the 3-0 bracket at GPs is always depressing. That Junk player vs UTron literally did everything he could to set up the win for the Tron player.
>>47372649
XD good post
us pro MTG gaymers right??? XDDDD
Are any of you guys at GP Charlotte? I'm getting word that there are a ton of players who are dropping from the main event.
>>47372788
>>47372877
>taking it seriously
>even replying
>>47372954
>le ironic maymay
ironic shitposting is still shitposting faggot
>>47372575
reki is a chinese name and he is clearly a chinese buddhist monk just look at the writing on his body
>>47372995
its not the fact that its Chinese or Japanese
its the fact you give a shit
thats what makes you autistic
Elsik's 3-0 here's hoping he gets some screen time.
>>47372995
The writing on his body isn't Chinese..
>>47372995
you do realize japanese has chinese characters right? not to mention that he's holding a biwa, a JAPANESE instrument. also, reki is a japanese name.
>>47369630
Amalgam as in Prized Amalgam?, Is that card playable now?
What deck even uses it?
>>47373212
Dredge inVintage
>>47372916
If by "a ton" you mean "the overwhelming majority of the event," yes.
>>47373277
why?
whats happening?
>>47372916
There's no way I could go since I couldn't use the bathroom of my choice
>>47373300
Parings program died leading to random parings. Like a 3-0 could play an 0-3
>>47372979
Yea, what's your point? Don't respond to shitposting, moron.
>>47373339
WotC's software?
If so I'm not at all surprised
>Splinter Twin has been banned
>Eye of Ugin has been banned
>AV and Sword have been unbanned
Control still can't beat Tron.
Yet somehow, the average player still buys that "Splinter Twin was stifling control" meme. How?
>>47373435
dude faeries can beat tron with the hand disruption and counterspells. what are you on about?
>>47373227
Fuckin' Vintage really?, out of all cards in SoI, when shit like Traverse the Ulvenwald and Cryptolith Rite are printed and THIS is the one card that sees eternal format play?
I got a couple, what are the odds they become cash in my pockets?
>>47373462
vintage is a unique format, especially for creatures
a lot of creatures suck in the context of your opponent also having multiple creatures, but if they have none, it can be vintage viable, i.e. scab clan berserker
>>47373462
Uh, quite a bit is playable in Legacy.
Thing in the Ice has been doing quite well, Tireless tracker is starting to see quite a lot of play as an advantage engine for non-blue fair decks (Maverick/Nic Fit primarily), and the meme frog also sees play in Nic Fit.
>>47373502
Well, fuck me in the ass with a red-hot iron if I understand the first thing about Vintage or what passes for viable in it. If anything I though those two and maybe Avacyn would be Vintage viable.
Likewise I get the feeling that Modern is full of powerhouses that never see play because they don't fit in a deck. Maybe they were standard staples back in the day, maybe they were part of a Modern deck that fell in desuse. But the more I look the more convinced am I there's lots of untapped potential in this format.
Look at the new Avacyn for example. She's all the rage in Standard for a very simple reason: the fact that she's crazy powerful and can win you games with ease. And yet, 0 Modern play.
The Gitrog monster is another case. Guy seems practically MADE for dredge and still manages to see no play.
I bet that if we started dilligently brewing we could put out one T1 Modern deck every other week.
>>47373631
>Tireless tracker
That card's the shit. Got it in my Bant Clues deck and it just puts out so, so much work. Investigate is turning out to be a very fun mechanic.
Can't wait for july to come to get more clue support. Daddy needs a new 2-drop and a sac outlet.
>>47373736
In what world is Gitfrog good for Dredge?
It's too slow for any format
>>47373811
My bud did make a Dredge list for Gitrog and immediately fell in love with it, so there's that.
I personally haven't tested it yet though. My attention has been directed at clues of all things. That and spirits.
Rattlechains is THE shit. Pure untapped potential.
>>47373462
Vintage was the format where Slash Panther saw play for a little bit. I think it was used to take down bigJaces.
>>47373858
What exactly does tribal Spirits offer that other aggro decks don't? There's the mass amounts of flyers I suppose, but other then that, why play Spirits over some other tribes like Merfolk or Elves?
Do any decks other than 8 rack run a full set of Lili?
>>47374158
http://www.mtgstocks.com/decks/formats/Modern/card/53
Wow, that was a difficult 3 second google search.
>>47374201
Good thing you did it for me then :^]
>>47371060
People that, put random commas need to die.
Someone explain Vintage to me please. I want to brew vintage for fun, because it seems to accept bank even more than commander does.
>>47374110
Lots of tricks on their sleeves.
I won't lie, its not elves or merfolk, but mass hexproof from Drogskol Captain is a very useful tool, plus, Phantasmal Image + Aether Vial allows you to have 2 lords by turn 3.
Instant Hexproof from Rattlechains wards from Path, Bolt and the like, and its mass flash effect is great alongside Topplegeist, perhaps one of the best 1-drops ever printed. There's not many great ETB effects for this tribe though. Just a couple of good ones would make the tribe good enough for Modern.
The high number of creatures goes great with Anafenza, an excellent legendary that gives all your creatures a lot of board pressence alongside the Drogskol / Phantasmal Image combo, and if tokens are more your cup of tea the tribe has some of the best token generators out there, Spectral Procesion, Lingeribg Souls, Promise of Bunrei...
There's also Saint Traft, whose power speaks for itself. I personally don't quite think he fits in the deck, but he IS able to put the hurt on te opponent real fast.
the real seller for me is Godhead of Awe though. Most of the creatures you play have lowish P/T, so your side of the board doesn't loose much while keeping the +1/+1 effects from counters and lords. On the other side the opponent's board is left in shambles. You can't even get rid of Godhead because at that point everything has Hexproof or if not they could just play a Rattlechains.
Tribal also means the deck uses Cavern of Souls which means these fuckers can't be countered. All in all, its very hard to get rid of them other than a total boardwipe and even then the fact the deck's part blue means they'll just counter that shit.
Here's a link to the list I use
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/17-04-16-CET-spirit-tribal/
>>47374538
Ayy, I remember making that with you guys. You actually built it? How does it run?
>>47374538
Is the black splash really worth it? Lingering souls is a very very good card, but why are you playing a Dimir Catpurse? It's body is kinda shitty and has no evasion. Also, why Anguished Unmaking, and why are you not running a full playset of Paths? Bloodghasts I'm kinda iffy about because of the double black. I'm also failing to see the reason for the random 2 serum visions.
>>47374538
Lovin' that sb
>>47374538
If I use Mirror Entity's ability to buff all of my creatures, does that override Godhead of Awe's constant effect until the end of turn? If so I think I just found the perfect addition to my UW Bird Tribal deck, they were all 1/1s anyways.
>>47375239
I don't think so but I ain't no darn judge
anyone wanna play against my janky funbrew on xmage
>>47374769
Its quite gud. I was actually the one who got Godhead in there. Anguished Unmaking, Always Watching, Invasive Surgery and Ojutai's Command were my suggestions too.
I've also been testing some cards, like pic related in place of Serum Visions or Lingering Souls.
I've been also testing wether it'd be convenient to change the colors from Esper to Bant. There are quite a few tricky but possibly good spirits in there. A small list:
>Kodama of the Center Tree
>Kodama of the South Tree
>Lifespinner
>Loam Dweller
>Sekki, Season's Guide
>Seedborn Muse
>Windborm Muse
There's more (and the last ain't green), but I don't want to bore you. If you are interested though we could talk about possible changes to the list in a new Spirit tribal thread (wouldn't want to derail the Modern general would we?)
>>47374840
Unguished Unmaking is there for the Tron matchup.
Dimir Cutpurse I never really liked personally, but the draw bad discard ARE nice... I guess.
I do run a full set of paths, but I cannot modify that list myself.
The Bloodghasts are really good. They work great with Anafenza and give the deck both attacking power and endurance. Like Anafenza, the casting cost isn't too much of an issue because you can play it with Aether Vial.
The Serum Visions I wasn't there when they got included. Prolly would have argued against it. I think the main objective was triggering Topplegeist's delirium?, That's why I want to change them by Promise of Bunrei, which not only does that but also gives a shitload of tokens.
I've been wondering about that black splash myself, but it does give you access to a lot of cool tech. I even came to consider 4 color spirits but even I am not that ballsy.
I just bought this.
>>47375441
nice waste of money
>>47375305
I went ahead and made those changes, because they made sense. The Serum Visions were in because I posted this in a modern thread and someone told me too, it made sense at the time I guess.
>>47375512
This entire game is a waste of money you moron.
>>47375305
Oh, I forgot the pic.
>>47373451
It really can't, stop shitposting.
>>47375562
Serum visions is not a card that you just jam into any and all blue decks. It's only really useful for blue combo decks, or blue decks that need to dig for their win condition(s).
>>47375610
Any idea on what to cut to shove in the last 2 Promise of Bunrei?
>>47375689
Yeah, I know, don't know why I listened to that guy.
the fact that I'm shuffling and playing with hundred dollar bills makes me laugh everytime
>>47375562
I'd also perhaps would relegate Anguished Unmaking to the sideboard completely. I can see it being a reasonable tech card against Tron, but having just that 1 card in a deck of 60 cards makes it unreliable. You can't reasonably rely on it to come to your rescue if you need to exile that Karn asap. Also, is Tron really that prevalent in you meta in the first place? I'm also really iffy on the card being mainboard because of the three life loss. That is just a deathwish against burn, affinity, and other linear aggro decks.
I'm also meh about the invasive surguries, and the 1 of remand. You're deck's mainboard doesn't run any counterspells at all, so having 3 counterspells (incredibly niche ones at that) seems out of place. The reason why you see things like 2 Negates and 1 Dispels in sideboard for control decks, is to switch out their 7ish mainboard counterspells to better counter their opponent's gameplan. I would take them out entirely for something else, you're an aggro deck, not a control deck.
>>47373212
>>47373227
Modern Dredge also uses it.
It has such nice synergy with Gravecrawler and Bloodghast.
>>47369472
I see white core, black core, blue core and German paper as options. Is German paper any good?
>>47371257
Any red fetches are fine if you're on burn.
>>47375973
That makes a lot of sense. As for the sideboard, sideboards are generally very meta-specific, so while I did cut the counterspells, you should be making your own anyway.
>>47375441
Nice blog, where can I subscribe?
>>47376299
Nice post, where can I ignore?
>>47375441
want it for this deck UG taking turns
4 Time Warp
4 Temporal Mastery
4 Walk the Aeons
1 Kiora, the Crashing Wave
4 Remand
3 Cryptic Command
3 Rites of Flourishing
3 Explore
3 Serum Visions
1 Laboratory Maniac
1 Elixir of Immortality
1 Jace Beleren
2 Crucible of Worlds
1 Faerie Conclave
1 Alchemist's Refuge
3 Misty Rainforest
3 Breeding Pool
2 Hinterland Harbor
1 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
6 Island
3 Forest
2 Peer Through Depths
2 Day's Undoing
2 Ghost Quarter
SB: 2 Grafdigger's Cage
SB: 1 Laboratory Maniac
SB: 1 Pongify
SB: 1 Rapid Hybridization
SB: 1 Kiora, the Crashing Wave
SB: 2 Naturalize
SB: 2 Bribery
SB: 2 Hurkyl's Recall
SB: 1 Ugin's Nexus
SB: 2 Engulf the Shore
anybody got an idea how terminate could get reprinted in the near future??
solid removal spell
>>47375673
Just my experience since the AV unban
>>47376093
The German paper sellers are unreliable. The color is mostly the same. The thickness is spot on though
I'm an entry level player who likes ROTK and has money to waste. Is this deck a good enough for friday night magic? Could I make it better with support from P3K? (sorry if this is the wrong place to ask)
>>47376721
this is surely a joke, this cant even beat the meta, such a meme deck
It's browbeat playable in Burn?
Anyone tried?
>>47376964
It's bad
>>47376995
Why? Your opponent surely won't take 5, so you get to draw 3, which is pretty great, is a lot of ammo, if you weren't able to deal enough or if your opponent has gained some life.
>>47376964
There is literally no reason ever to run any 3 cmc spells in modern burn. Also, cards that give your oppoents a choice are pretty bad in general.
>>47376898
You can play it casually (it's way too weak for modern not to mention legacy/vintage). Also those cards aren't modern legal.
>in b4 some faggots being jerks
>>47377300
Still worth the buy imo. Thanks cuz.
>>47369918
Awesome, thanks anon
>>47376964
You never have that much mana at your disposal in Burn so I say that it wouldn't be worth it, since you will likely not have that much mana left after casting a 3CMC card.
>>47377105
I ran Exquisite Firecraft for a short while when anticipating control decks at certain local stores near me.
>>47375562
>>47375701
Excuse me, the chan just decided not to work for a whole hour for me. Just when I was sending my post too.
Anyways, I have a few suggestions:
>Remove Essence Flux
They are nice tribal support, but what do they really do for the deck when everything already has Hexproof and you can just cast Rattlechains for 1 more?, If these creatures had powerful ETB effects It'd have a pass, but as it is the counter they give is just not worth it.
>Delegate Anguished Unmaking to the sideboard
>>47375973 is 100% right about this. You should up the number to at least 3 in the sideboard though, when you need it you really want to run into it and this deck doesn't have draw and can't tutor it either.
>Remove Kira, add more Kataki
Kira does jackshit, I haven't used him a single time or ran into any situation I would have wanted to cast him. Kataki on the other hand I can't even begin to describe how hard he shits on artifact-based decks, specially when he has hexproof and can't be countered. Really, he's so good that you could even take out Stony Silence for more space on the SB though you won't see me doing that because I have a particularly strong disgust for Affinity.
>Remove Ojutai's Command
A sad lone command does very little sitting on the sideboard like that.
>Add in Windborn Muse
Holy shit this spirit is stupid good. Taxing this strong is very useful and gimps Aggro and Midrange decks. Honestly I expect it to be a silver bullet against Abzan Company. Plus, it kind of combos with Promise of Bunrei since Promise is a deterrent that keeps your opponents from blocking to prevent you from putting a shitton of tokens boosted by lords while Windborn makes it so they can't take the chance to strike back effectively. At worst its prime Sideboard material.
>Add in another Anafenza
You REALLY want to see an Anafenza every game you play. After all those +1/+1 counters make possible attacking for 15 T4. She's part of the 'ideal game scenario', so to speak.
>>47375973
I'm not so sure this tribal wants to go full aggro. There are quite a few card in the tribe that support a more control-oriented style of play. I'd say its 60% aggro, 40% control.
Also the Invasive Surgeries were there for the Scapeshift matchup. No Scapeshift in your meta -> no Surgeries. if anything Mana Leak would be the counterspell to go with, specially with other taxing effects like Windborn Muse.
>UB Mill
7-1 B O Y S
so what does /mtg/ think of hearthstone?
>>47379058
Must be nice to be in a shitty, underdeveloped store meta. Free wins every week.
>>47380041
It all goes to shit eventually. Eventually the competitive bug reaches somebody and starts the arms race.
Some people are not lucky enough to experience scrub metagames and play with godawful brews and win.
>>47380041
Yeah, that shitty undeveloped store meta of GPLA
>>47375609
>try to impress people
>get btfo
Lul
>Only brought my Modern deck to Grand Prix Charlotte
>Actually sat through that like 2 hour fuck up
>Didn't have my other decks so couldn't do other side events
>Ended up 3-4 drop
Kill me
>>47376758
>solid removal spell
This means it won't be reprinted
>>47380439
>Kill me
why not go to Cookout instead?
>>47380439
Why didn't you draft?
Never mind. I understand.
>>47380672
Would have had to pay to draft. The pass they were giving away for free was to all the other side events.
At the first announcement I still had a chance to make day 2 so I figured I'd commit to that not knowing it'd take another hour and a half to get everything sorted.
>>47376758
For Standard? Would probably have to be rare.
>>47377062
It gives your opponent an extra turn when you cast it. Its better to spend the mana dealin damage.
>>47380759
I like this better tbqh
Regen clause is only relevant with elves and they die to well placed bolts anyway
>>47381230
>Sorcery speed
>>47381271
it kills Nahiri.
And suddenly this is pretty relevant.
PROXIES ARE OKAY JUST DON'T SELL OR TRADE EM AS REAL ORRITE
THANKS
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>>47381944
Gimme link to perfect snappy proxies nigga
>>47381930
I saw her everywhere Charlotte. She's fucking nuts.
I don't think she's overpowered but it lets control decks take a lot of heat off their life total if they're playing a deck that can't immediately kill her.
>>47369906
>move to a new city
>attend my first fnm draft at that lgs
>wife drops by for a surprise visit
>suddenly surrounded by 10 sweaty nerds
>nahari now a staple in modern to shit emracool on the board as fast as possible
>nahiri highly suggested to be shitting emrakul into innistrad in the lore
Happy coincidence or wizards being cheeky and basically knew that's exactly what she would be used for in modern?
>>47382080
She's probably going to summon something else and Wizards is just going to go "lol u got tricked xD!" and smugly act like they're so fucking clever
>>47382080
>wizards being cheeky and basically knew that's exactly what she would be used for in modern?
Bingo
>>47382080
>>nahiri highly suggested to be shitting emrakul into innistrad in the lore
no she's just gonna stoneforge the moon into a gundam or something equally dumb.
>>47382286
The moon is made of silver and this particular silver she can't actually interact with.
>Friend made it to day 2 at GP Charlotte
Fuck I hope he wins it.
I know /tg/ doesn't like to talk about competitive standard. Anyone know where I can get some sniper tips?
>>47382406
What deck is he on?
>>47381996
>if they're playing a deck that can't immediately kill her
What is Lantern Control.
>needle your nahiri
>ok g2
>>47382866
>tfw dnt starts running phyrexian revokers
>>47382866
Because Nahiri is the only win condition ever in that deck. They totally don't got bolts and snappys.
>>47382920
They totally won't with 2-3 millrocks and en Ensnaring Bridge in play.
>>47382983
Okay look. I agree Lantern doesn't need to worry much about Nahiri, but the burn is still a threat.
It's a favorable matchup for sure. But it's not an instant win.
>>47382850
GR Tron
He finished 7-2 with 2 byes and its his first GP.
I got caught using proxies last week. Traveling, wanting to play some modern at LGS in the midwest. Some greasy manlet noticed that the coloring of my arcbound ravager was off, called the owner over and made him deckcheck me. At this point the contingency plan is to be as helpful and be as ignorant as possible. Nothing really happened, at all, because who the fucks cards if you're using proxies besides autistic manlets who get mad when you dont spend thousands of dollars on cardboard like they did.
>>47378621
I'm not going to spend too much time fucking with the sideboard online, build your own geared towards your local meta, just like you would with any other decklist.
Has anyone used these to triple sleeve?
How are they to shuffle?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/201466793664
>>47383065
Were you playing for prizes? If so, ya really shouldn't use fakes. If it's casuals, yea the guy's reaction was a bit over the top. I can totally get why it would bother somebody if someone was playing with counterfeits. If all you're playing is casual matches, its way better to avoid drama by letting them know you are using proxies. If they are okay with it, great, if not, play something else/play with someone else.
>>47383065
I'm planning to sell all my cards and just use the fakes. Also looking to maybe build a couple cubes with the cheaper white core cards. As long as the printing is good enough to read then it's fine with me. Just spend a few bucks to receive a new cube in the mail? Sounds really fun.
>>47383160
I really fail to see the point of triple sleeving. Seems redundant to the point where it add nothing else, and only makes it a bigger hassle to shuffle and store.
>>47383166
It was just an FNM, but the persons behavior was incredibly over the top, as if I personally insulted him by using them
>>47383186
And the quality of cards is only going to go up, indistinguishable fakes soon
>>47373736
Funny thing about Vintage is that it generally plays much less creature removal as opposed to Legacy and Modern. So even creatures that attack for 2-3 and can either be thrown into play for free or cast very quickly and disrupt your opponent are a viable option.
>>47375239
Timestamp order determines P/T with Godhead+Mirror Entity.
If Godhead is in play first, then Mirror Entity shows up later and activates the ability(say X being 4 in this case)then everything is a 4/4(on your side.)
>>47383065
Darksteel Ravager or MM Ravager? Because all of the artifacts in Darksteel and Mirrodin have lighter card frames that what we're used to now.
>>47372605
>4 for 20
what could go wrong
>>47373462
You have to realize Vintage Dredge has access to even less mana than its Legacy counterpart due to just mulling to Bazaar and only cares about shit that enters the battlefield for free.
>>47384500
Baleful Strix is my single most favored creature in vintage. Love that little value machine.
>>47385156
>vintage
I'm too tired for this. Meant legacy.
>>47383110
Ofc. I'm just glad to help.
One last note on Promise of Bunrei. Like Windborn, it is great if you are playing VS aggro or something that uses boardwipes since it fiercely repopulates your board afterwards (doubly so with Lingering Souls), but VS control you might like Spectral Procession better. It only generates one token less and unlike Bunrei's they fly. The evasion really helps closing games quickly.
Also my friend suggested a little common, albeit I'm unsure about its possible inclussion. Dreamcatcher was the name. I prefer Ghost-lit Redeemer though.
>Software messes up for GP Charlotte
>Over 1000 people drop the main tournament
>People that stayed are told that pairings will be random from now on, but tiebreakers wouldn't be carried over to Day 2
>Lots of 9-0s and 8-1s due to random pairings
>Day 2 happens
>600 Players made it to day 2
>Tiebreakers were carried over
Just fuck my tournament up, Wizards.
>>47370405
I mean, there's Melissa deTora, but she doesn't really play anymore, I don't think.
>>47387243
To make things even more hilarious, they told people multiple times yesterday that the fucked up tiebreakers will NOT carry over for today.
Yet here we are.
>>47385096
Amalgam is bad in Vintage dredge. It comes down a turn too late.
>>47388107
It enters before your first Ichorids do if you hit at least one Narco off your second Bazaar activation so how is it too slow?
Why is Patrick Chapin always shaking? What the fuck.
>>47388509
Dude is twitchy as a motherfuck
>>47382983
>mfw I play Esper Rally and my opponent is playing Lantern Control
>>47388506
Ichorid can come into play turn 2 if its in your first bazaar activation. Amalgam comes in turn 3 at the absolute earliest.
On top of that, Ichorid does not require a second creature to enter play to do something.
Ichorid is the weakest creature in the deck, I don't think Amalgam is necessary outside of pitch dredg maybe
>>47388613
Is he a crack addict or something? It bugs the fuck out of me. It's only slightly better than that one obnoxious motherfucker, I think it was in Pro Tour Born of the Gods that flicked his hards so fucking loudly I couldn't watch the fucking video.
>>47388509
He finally tried some of his own product
>>47388623
Esper Rally?, I thought Allies were unviable in Modern.
>>47388786
It's not allies, but it certainly is shit.
Wait did Paulo just sportsman on Chapin for the L?
Collected Company. Helping people lucksack their way to wins since 2015
Hey friendos, I have a question on order of things.
Let's say I have a mass of creatures and someone plays a spell that will destroy all creatures or something that does lethal damage to them.
one of my creatures allows me to sacrifice creatures to do something like gain life or draw cards.
So I choose to sacrifice all the creatures I had to draw cards, gain life, or whatever. Is this something I can do?
>>47388671
He used to be a drug dealer and a heavy user
>>47388840
Yes. You may respond to spells after they are cast, before they resolve
Help me improve this shit
4 Galerider Sliver
4 Predatory Sliver
4 Sinew Sliver
4 Manaweft Sliver
2 Sentinel Sliver
3 Diffusion Sliver
2 Blur Sliver
1 Syphon Sliver
2 Necrotic Sliver
4 Sedge Sliver
2 Spellskite
4 Collected Company
4 Aether Vial
2 Overgrown Tomb
1 Watery Grave
1 Godless Shrine
4 Mutavault
4 Verdant catacoms
4 Sliver Hive
4 Cavern of Souls
>>47388876
Slivers are bad. They seem stop good but they never work like you want
