New General Edition General Edition
Grim Dark Watercooler Edition
>Rules databases
https://mega.co.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ
https://kat.cr/warhammer-40k-pdf-library-t9575373.html
>FAQs
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Rules-Errata
>40k 7th edition quick reference sheet(s)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef_V7.pdf
>Forgeworld Book index
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index
>White Dwarves
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/tx4hcy4u487pv/WD
>Novels (Working link as of 02/02/2016)
https://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q
>>47220893
Wow you're such a dumb faggot you even copied the last threads Edition and saved its picture.
Why so bad newfag?
>>47220903
but the image isnt the same xDDDDDDD
>>47220922
Oh its older, was it two generals ago then?
Either way you are the same faggot that always shits up these threads. Your xDDD gives you away all the time.
>>47220950
you're the one calling other people mean names anon.
Anyone else feel Lords Of War like the Stompas and Heirophant should be around 400-500 points each?
>>47220968
Absolutely yes to the heirophant, add the heirodule to the list of tyranids things to be improved. Don't know stompa stats but most likely
>>47220965
Not other people, just you, and at this point I wouldn't consider you a person.
If you're gonna post a new fucking general at 350 to be a shit and split discussion, at least get the most up to date meme image, you cunt pail.
>>47220968
Dunno, but LoW slots need to be limited to apocalypse, no squads, and only 1 allowed per 1000 points.
>>47221006
I'm a different person anon. How do you not know how to read the poster count?
Can I just ask one question:
Who cares what is in the OP image?
He could draw a dick in MSPaint and I wouldn't mind
>>47221026
1st it can be spoofed
2nd how autistic are you to pay attention to the poster counter
>>47221053
well when you're claiming I'm someone else, you probably should check the poster count, when there are only 3 people in the thread at the time. It's only courtesy friend.
>>47221011
>doesn't post most up to date version
0/10 effort
>>47221042
People that can't type "40k" into the catalogue, and instead prefer to visually scan 150 images for the one they're looking for.
>>47221011
This is the only image that should be used until something comes along that gets added to the image. Until then, no wallpapers, no "improvement" edits that remove shit, and no outdated images.
>>47221078
>most up to date version
>Posts the one with the Tau face reverted from the sprue face
Stay delusional Tau faggot.
>>47221105
>reverted
>meaning changed
>meaning more current than your pic
Honestly, are you even trying anymore?
>>47221088
Its more then that faggot. The Image has history unlike you. Go back to Dakka or Faggotseer.
>Only 81 posts till we can talk about 40k again
I remember when I thought the retarded fight about the op image was just going to be a day long joke.
>>47221121
>Taking steps back
>Moving forward
You know, back in the day we had shitposters that actually made decent bait that wasn't half assed straw arguments.
>>47221140
You and me both friend.
So what army do you enjoy playing lately?
I moved fromImperial Guardto Ultramarines and have been having a blast. I have a demi company and a few auxiliaries but it is a much more durable and forgiving play style than IG.
>>47221128
>The image has history
When did we start using it anyway? It wasn't THAT long ago.
>>47221021
This, if we make the cheep LOW's like ghazzy a HQ or elite choice.
>>47221128
No, why dont you? No one cares about the "history" of your faggoty memes. Go somewhere where you can upvote or some shit chiknposter
>>47221231
Waaaaah mommy the mean kwids on 4chan wont let me have my special clubhouse
How do you motivate yourself to paint?
>>47221156
>Oh boy, you know he's lost when it's calling it bait
Uh huh. Please revert your argument to one that makes sense.
holy shit are we serious folks
who gives a fuck what the general image is, as long as it's immediately recognizable?
Christ, I miss when bitching about CSM was the worst these threads had.
>>47221252
I'm not your mommy you stupid, cock gurgling faggot.
You have to be 18+ to post here you know.
>>47221255
Usually some epic music. I'll play 2stepsfromhell and some Exciter while I'm painting/assembling
>>47221255
I either set small goals and try to hammer our point values out in a reasonable time.
OR
I randomly get the urge to paint tons of minis even though it might just be one of the main colors done on all of them.
>>47221255
the only motivation I need is taking pics and posting my shit on /wip/ for either small praise, high criticism, or getting completely ignored.
>>47221287
Don't acknowledge him, you don't want his cancer.
>>47221042
The tards that give a shit what the general image is are just as bad as the ones changing it just to troll the tards.
>if you give a shit enough to argue about the image, kill yourself
>>47221255
Imagine the scheme.
Make a mental plan of how you're going to paint the scheme of the model.
>Start with the largest areas of the model, making it more satisfying to accomplish, motivating you further
>>47221255
Looking at my grey tide of orks and being a shit painter realising the only way I'm gonna get better is by painting 100 Boyz
Anyone got the new FAQ? Also, the ork decurion rules?
>>47221255
I want to play with fully painted models
I want to play this model
>>47221021
That would bog down apocalypse games.
Also, it would likely invalidate at least one army and make it questionable if having a Lord Of War is worth it when chances to use it would be sparse and somewhat limited.
>>47221327
This is good too. Since I started my Necrons I am picking up my pace with them just to see the finished product.Even if I paint like shit.
>>47221348
Ew, Dark Angels.
>>47221128
>/40kg/ image has history
wow bro
>>47221347
>Anyone got the new FAQ?
Google does you lazy piece of shit. Though I believe someone had a pdf of them that you could actually highlight. Check the way-back-machine.
>Also, the ork decurion rules?
If it isn't in the OP by now I would imagine Google has that for you too. It was leaked and discussed a bunch.
>>47221171
I could never understand Ultrasmurf players. The whole chapter is so boring, bland, vanilla safe that it leaves no impression, there's nothing interesting to build your army around other than "They're the best smurfs at smurfing."
>>47221348
He meant "Wew! Dark Angels"
>>47221356
Jesus fuck what did you do to that poor thing
>>47221397
every army has something to complain about. what do you play anon?
>>47221397
They weren't always that bad. It just happens to be GW's goto protagonist for the Imperial side. Now that GW is aimed at young kiddies and how sensitive moms are, they toned down alot of the lore and made it more "kid friendly"
>>47221397
I always liked Roman history growing up so that is one of my bigger draws to them.
Personally not a fan of the "Better/Holier than Thou" attitude.
The fluff is what you make it.
>>47221356
It's not that its bad.... You did an okay job at what you painted, its just very... bland. You need to watch tutorials on youtube and add different painting techniques to your toolbox.
>>47221422
Had my way with it of course, as I will with the rest of the Dynasty.WIP pic of my royal court, it only gets worse with the warriors.
>>47221427
CSM.
Inb4 they're just spiky marines
>>47221472
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/THIN_YOUR_PAINTS
>>47221128
>The Image has history
It's only about a year old at best you newfag.
>>47221078
For the tenth time. Lower right corner, fuckwit. Genestealer cultist.
I don't give a fuck about your opinion of chicken or spruefacetau. You want to leave them out, fine. But don't fuck over the cultist because you're too goddamned lazy to actually UPDATE an image and instead simply go backwards.
>>47221502
it actually looks too thin to me, like he didn't use a base color before using a layer color. It needs a gold base like Balthazar gold for the golds. It would also look better without that blue wash over everything.
>>47221502
I sprayed them all with Army Painter Platemail and gave them a healthy serving of Guilimans blue glaze. My problem was that my paints that I got second hand were "old" and I was thinning them..... wrong. The damage is done for my orikan star but maybe mynext army stands a chance
>>47221535
>Update
>all I do is search old generals
>must be hard
I'm no artist, contact the drawfag if you want a change
>>47221569
Metallics can be a bit of a sod to thin correctly, to be fair.
>>47221585
The drawfag can't draw. Also, the image already exists. Its just shitty edits that keep pushing it off to the side.
>>47221594
So I have noticed. I am using gold, bronze, copper and three different silver/steels.
>>47221569
At least you're not using grays, I'd play against those horrors over bland gray everywhere any day.
Rolled 82 (1d100)
>>47221356
The painting itself doesn't look bad, but that large brown area spoils the model. Looks really out of place by iteself.
>>47221350
>Also, it would likely invalidate at least one army and make it questionable if having a Lord Of War is worth it when chances to use it would be sparse and somewhat limited.
Sorry, I misspoke.
Limited to apocalypse OR 1 per 1000 points, not both.
>>47221630
Thats the goal, mate.
>>47221633
Thanks, I didn't want to use too much bronze but seeing it on your image changed my mine, helps the gold stand out a bit more.
>>47221666
Happy to help, Satan.
>>47221356
>>47221633
Why those colours?
That has to be one of the worst choices I could think of.
A bright orange and blue with bronze and gold.
I can't even.
>>47221502
>https://1d4chan.org/wiki/THIN_YOUR_PAINTS
Jesus Christ the pictures at the bottom are hilarious.
>>47220893
So as a new player, what are good tactics against Necrons? I'm playing Grey Knights and they way I figured was just get in close as quick as possible so they can't shoot the fuck out of me.
>>47221848
Keep fire at whatever dangers your units the most and keep your focus on objectives.
>>47221848
Deepstrike in and cleansing flame as much as you can while spitting out psycannon shots.
>>47221848
In essence, yes. I2really hurts, even if they aren't Tau bad in melee. GK can get Knights as allies right? D-weapons completely negate RP so that's a reliable way of killing high priority Crons.
You're going to have a rough time as GK though regardless the matchup though, barring Orks or something.
Who are the psykers whose souls get fed to the emperor to sustain him?
Just random prisoners?
>>47221356
Throw so easy washes on there anon and boy you got a stew!
>>47221923
Psykers who fail training but don't turn into demons.
>>47221936
I don't understand.
Why a stew?
It still needs a wash and the weapons aren't done yet.
Have been trying to decide if I should use agrax or nulin to wash, especially the pattern lines.
>>47221914
>>47221895
>>47221864
I don't have a Knight unfortunately, but I do have two dreadknights, a dreadnought, and the usual shit like BC Stern, Draigo, a strike squad, and terminators. I was just gonna get in close and beat the shit out of them as fast as possible. But this will be the second time I have ever played.
I appreciate the advice though, I'll keep it in mind.
>>47221923
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Black_Ships
Not only the ones that fail at training but also the ones not worth training.
>>47221988
And the format on that post was totally fucked up. My bad. Please accept this pic of one of my minis as penance
Another thing to note about RP, Instant Death makes it worse. It's not quite as good as completely negating it, but 4+ to a 5+ might make the difference
Or even 5+ to 6+ if your opponent is gracious enough to not use Decurion.
>>47222044
>Please accept this pic of one of my minis as penance
>3264x1836
Interesting way to represent a force weapon, show the broad side?
What would be the best way to outfit a Daemon Prince for getting in close and fighting Tau? I'm thinking mark of Nurgle to survive S10 weapons perhaps.
>>47222099
>thinking cover will help against Tau
Maybe Tzeentch instead, wings for spead, could do armour, probably max level psyker, weapons are up to you.
>>47222077
Not my paint job. I'm buying them off of a co-worker and not all of them are painted. I have like 12 minis right now.
He has another probably 100 GK minis that he is selling me, plus 3 Knights.
>>47222133
*speed
Where do half eldar come from?
>>47222099
Black Legion supplement for Eternal Warrior Skull, Black Mace, Wings, ML3, Spell Familiar, roll everything on Biomancy for Iron Arm and maybe Warp Speed.
Almost 400 points, but if this puppy makes it into melee, something is going to die.
>>47221840
>I cant tell if Sanguinius is supposed to have a beard, or if he's vomiting
>>47222157
They don't come from anywhere because they don't exist outside of degenerate animays
If they did though where do you think they could possibly be from?
>half eldar
gee what could the other half be?
>>47222165
You cant take the skull and the mace. FAQ sas just 1 relic per HQ.
>>47222157
A good chainsword swing.
>>47221255
Every Tuesday and Wednesday night there are these two pain group in my local Nerd Bar.
They pick a table, paint together, drink something, socialize.
Since I'm friend with both I just choose one or the other. Painting with other people is more fun.
>>47222224
Preach.
>>47222252
>I wrote Pain Group instead of Paint Group
>That's a mistake
>Pain Group is every two Sunday.
>>47222175
That's a Sons of Horus Nurgle angel.
So, if Chosen of Chaos are supposedly so highly favored by the dark gods and "equipped with the finest wargear their warband can provide", why don't they get access to Cult weapons like Plague Knives and Sonic Blasters? Clearly it's not because they're Undivided, given they can take specific Marks.
>>47222224
>>47222252
>Every Tuesday and Wednesday night there are these two pain group in my local Nerd Bar.
>they pick a table, paint together, drink something, socialize.
>socialize.
>Nerd Bar.
Yep, sounds like a pain group.
>>47222287
I think Chosen occupy a position just below the "Cult Marines" proper or haven't fully dedicated themselves to one God proper yet, hence why they aren't found in possession of weapons normally associated with said God.
>>47221988
>ONE dreadnought
boring
>>47222287
>why don't they get access to Cult weapons
because cults are insular and don't share their toys
>>47222287
If non-Cult units had access to Cult-specific weapons, what would be the point of bringing Cult units? Especially Noise Marines or Rubrics, who are defined by their Sonic Blasters/Inferno Bolts rather than especially meaningful statlines or special rules.
You want a fluff explanation? Cult units represent the absolute most devoted, fanatical adherents to their God. They aren't going to share their equipment with anyone who isn't willing to go to the lengths they have.
>>47221255
I reread the new FAQ and find out about how my primed transports are useless and my allied army has been nerfed to Ork levels of bad...and this is my punishment for trying to have a fun, fluffy list and not be a WAAC shitfuck.
Oh wait, you said motivate...fuck. I go paint Malifaux minis because it's a playable game and Wyrd actually gives a shit.
>>47221356
What the ACTUAL fuck were you thinking with this color scheme?
Down syndrome? Colorblindness? Regular blindness?
>Let's have some nice big silver areas
Sure man, why not, it's a nice neutral color, looks good on most models, it's-
>And then one big fucking BROWN area really brown that shit up
Well now you're adding a highly saturated color color alongside a desaturated color (gray), that's going to add a LOT of contrast to your model, are you sure you like those two side by si-
>And some fucking blue! Electric goddamn blue aLL UP IN the goddamn silver
Wait wait what? You've adding blue-orange contrast to a model that's already got high contrast in saturation? That's going to make the model really visually confused, why not stick with a black or dark gray that doesn't clash with the silver, or maaaaaaybe a really dark blue that's similar in value to the brown might be able to work if yo-
>ORANGE FUCKING ORANGE OH GOD YES
Seriously dude? You've got three different types of contrast going on (arguably four), and now you want to add a fifth? I mean, if it was a dark orange that was a similar value to the brown, again, that could be alright, but it's such a light value that now the whole model is a fucking eyesore.
This is what you've fucking done. This model is a goddamn crime against humanity. Judgement like yours is how Tom Kirby ended up in charge of GW.
>>47222252
>Nerd Bar.
Jelly. Whenever my friends do something nerdy in the beer garden, we get normies who stop to stare.
>>47222215
>They don't come from anywhere because they don't exist
Except in the Ultrasmurfs.
>>47222218
It's not official yet ;^)
Also it's fucking dumb, if it does become official, Daemon Princes will seriously be unplayable. Without Eternal Warrior they die too easily and without a proper weapon they can't do enough to warrant the points.
Other than spam daemon summons i guess.
>>47222363
>implying the Emperor's most devoted would touch even half an alien without a weapon in hand
>>47222348
>Judgement like yours is how Tom Kirby ended up in charge of GW.
Listen fucker, no matter how bad that paintjob was, we don't mention HIS name around here. You have quite literally called this guy worse then Hitler just because of his paint job.
>>47222389
I was actually just about to post that he went too far, glad I wasn't the only one...
>>47222384
>without a weapon in hand
So you're saying it was raep.
>>47222384
Didn't stop them from naming a halfu as a librarian
>>47222348
Not cool dude
>>47222316
I'm buying 2 more off the guy
>>47222348
Oh man I have been having such a genuinely shitty day and you just made me laugh out loud so well. Thank you.
>>47222408
Pretty sure RT-era fluff doesn't count
>contradicting itself in several parts
>contradicting the rulebook in several parts
>some answers not matching up with the question
my flgs is just going to ignore this
>>47222348
I think you failed art class. Stay buttmad
>>47222408
>>47222457
He's not a librarian, anyways. Or even a space marine.
Dude was an astropath decked out in power armour.
>>47222348
What would Mr Rogers think about you saying something like that?
>>47222165
If I inflict multiple wounds with the Black Mace does my enemy have to take multiple sets of toughness tests for the units around the wounded models?
>>47222459
I mean, obviously you should, unless you actually want to play test.
It's just the first draft, they're going to be changing some shit around before they do a full release.
Possibly companied by yet another BRB reprint. Hopefully I can get just the rules section this time.
Rate my list, 1850 Dark Angels lions blade.
+++ Lion's blade (1848pts) +++
++ Dark Angels: Codex (2015) (DA The Lion's Blade Detachment) (1848pts) ++
+ Core (973pts) +
Battle Demi Company (973pts)
····Assault Squad (128pts) [6x Assault Space Marine (84pts)]
········Assault Space Marine Sergeant (44pts) [Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Thunder Hammer (30pts)]
····Chaplain (115pts) [Bolt Pistol, Crozius Arcanum, Infantry, Power Fist (25pts)]
····Devastator Squad (240pts) [4x Missile Launcher with Flakk (100pts), 9x Space Marine (126pts)]
········Sergeant (14pts) [Boltgun, Chainsword]
····Tactical Squad (135pts) [Plasmagun (15pts), 4x Tactical Marine (56pts)]
········Rhino (35pts) [Storm Bolter]
········Sergeant (29pts) [Boltgun, Chainsword, Plasma Pistol (15pts)]
····Tactical Squad (135pts) [Plasmagun (15pts), 4x Tactical Marine (56pts)]
········Rhino (35pts) [Storm Bolter]
········Sergeant (29pts) [Boltgun, Chainsword, Plasma Pistol (15pts)]
····Tactical Squad (220pts) [Plasma Cannon (15pts), Plasmagun (15pts), 9x Tactical Marine (126pts)]
········Rhino (35pts) [Storm Bolter]
········Sergeant (29pts) [Boltgun, Chainsword, Plasma Pistol (15pts)]
+ Command (215pts) +
The Inner Circle (215pts) [Azrael (215pts)]
+ Auxillary (660pts) +
The Hammer of Caliban (660pts) [Land Raider (250pts)]
····Predators (345pts)
········Predator (115pts) [Autocannon, Lascannons (40pts)]
········Predator (115pts) [Autocannon, Lascannons (40pts)]
········Predator (115pts) [Autocannon, Lascannons (40pts)]
····Techmarine (65pts) [Bolt Pistol, Power Axe, Servo Arm]
········Artificer Armour [Infantry]
The hammer squad can either move up the field or sit there with azzy chap tech marine and assault squad inside land raider. So long as the preds are behind the land raider it can soak up shots for them and has a 4++. Rest of units can go for objectives.
>>47222459
99% of the FAQ was how my group was already playing 7th edition anyways.
>>47222484
Nah, the end of the phase thing only triggers once.
Each MODEL in range has to take the test, mind.
>>47222459
what part of 'first draft' do you not understand?
It's there for comment, point out the mistakes in the forum they set up for you to do so.
>>47222502
House rules are the best rules, after all.
>>47222459
>Q: Since a player automatically loses at the end of any game turn in which he has no models on the
table, does a player taking a Detachment that requires him to start all his models in Reserve (such
as the Ravenwing Strike Force with Flyers) automatically lose every game he plays?
>A: A player who takes an army that consists entirely of units and/or Detachments which must be set
up in Reserve, with no special rule that allows them to arrive in the first game turn, will automatically
lose the game. We do not recommend choosing an army like this!
>>47222490
First let me rate your formatting
>absolute shit
>>47222567
>Why I will never be able to play an all LotD list.
>>47222570
Sorry i copy pasted on my phone. I thought the plain text formatting from battle scribe was better but i can't really reformat it easily on my phone.
>>47222459
Name something better, because if the guys who wrote the rulebook say X, then their say is final.
>>47222502
Well it helps to play with reasonable people that aren't trying to min max the fuck outta the game.
>>47222546
>looks over the fuckup that is any of the tourney house rules
Gonna have to argue otherwise on that one. Especially considering it's still not an offical GW release.
>>47222313
A Chosen becomes such when he is granted the favor of at least one of the Chaos gods. Sometimes more than one or all choose to back the marine, making him more powerful.
I would think that a Chosen ranks above the cult marines don't they?
>Anvil Strike Force
>Technomancy Librarian Conclave
Do I dare?
>>47222355
It's a cool place.
The day is full of nerds of all kind.
The night is full of nerds and normies, even some families, which just love the fact the bar has private rooms which they can use too.
They play tabletop games mostly, but other times they just stay there drinking and have their own fun.
They see people do wargames, roleplaying games and other stuff, but they never seem surprise.
Maybe it's because there are adults that play majong, chess and other stuff in the middle.
Also here the most popular and traditional hobby is a card game. Every kid grow seeing his grandpa playing that. Is this a thing in other countries?
>>47222601
YOUR house rules are the best for you.
ITC can fuck right off as far as I am conserned.
>>47221397
I was drawn to them due to the last stand of the 1st company in the Northern Polar Fortress. Back when Sicarius was just a bald marine with a Lightning claw and Plasma Pistol.
>tfw you want to model but can't because ear infection wrecks balance
>>47222641
Important clarification
Good man
Tourney fags are a cancer on the hobby
>Setting up a list to fight an ork player in a few days
>3 tac squads
>Librarian conclave
>full Ironclad dreadnought talon>5 eversor assassins
>>47221356
how about something like this?
>>47221777
Anon that shooped the image here, and I actually like it personally. Taste is subjective and all that, yadda yadda.
>>47222630
Poker and other card games are pretty popular, you still don see them played in bars around here though.
Darts and pool and that's about it.
>>47222744
You sound like a real swell guy to play against ;^)
>>47222459
It's a FAQ, not an errata. It's there to clear shit up, not change the rules.
It can't be helped that you're a derp who couldn't read the rules correctly in the first place. Keep fighting for your two-relic chapter master.
Ethereal (50 pts)
5x Firewarrior strikers (45 pts)
5x Firewarrior strikers (45 pts)
Riptide (180 pts)
Riptide (180 pts)
Total: 500 pts
>>47222744
That actually sounds pretty fun, it's better than 3 exterminators and a hell hound.
>>47222580
They're not meant to be played alone. They're meant to play similar to how they're fluffed: Showing up in the middle of a battle-already-in-progress.
>>47222459
>Psychic Shriek hits automatically
>>47222753
idk Senpai, that looks even more boring.
I kind of like how it looks with more bronze like >>47221633 did for me.
As much as it may trigger a few people on a Taiwanese Stamp Collecting board the blue and orange will stay.
Though in hindsight a darker blue wouldve been better, I like the look of it.
>>47222744
I hope you lose your carkeys
>>47222811
What's wrong with the list? Seems pretty soft to me.
>>47222832
10x skitarii vanguard, warlord, taser goad (100 points)
10x skitarii vanguard, taser goad (100 points)
10x skitarii vanguard, taser goad (100 points)
10x skitarii vanguard, taser goad (100 points)
10x skitarii vanguard, taser goad (100 points)
final destination.
actually would be a semi fun game i bet.
>>47222999
They're okay with Navigators, possibly Tzeentch. Honestly I don't understand why they hated psykers in the first place. Pyskers while hazardous are needed.
>>47221011
>>47221078
>>47221585
>>47221042
>>47220922
Stop bitching about the op image, all of you
Here. An image that is garunteed to have what you want. Now shut the hell up about this forever
>>47223081
They will also work with grey knights.
>>47222965
Orks are gonna have a really hard time dealing with a single assassin, let alone five.
>BS8
>Overwatch at full BS
Basically the assassin get to run around blasting everything they want with poison pistols or bolt pistols, 4 times per shooting phase and the Orks can't really charge them when they blast them to shit during overwatch anyway, or if they make it into combat, they'll be so weak the Fleshbane Shred gauntlet will finish them, basically one Assassin can take on any Ork unit, alone.
>>47223091
Remove the chicken in the middle and we have a deal. Otherwise no.
>>47223091
no one has for a while since you brought it up again shitter, just let it be.
>>47223091
You didn't include one of the ones were they are aren't all :o ? Would have made it great.
>>47223109
Gladly. I wanted to do the one that says "and bitching about cover images" as that better sums up the image, but I don't seem to have it.
If you give me that, it shall be done.
>>47223091
It's perfect.
>>47223094
And that too. I think the HH novels hand wave their hate towards psykers due to Siggy getting scorned by Papa Dorn about something about a prophecy or vision from a psyker.
>>47223104
So what you're saying is that a list filled with nothing but the WORST assassin, something other armies can beat easily, is too tough for Orks?
>>47223128
I would definitely accept that, but I don't have it.
>>47223128
Seriously all you fags need to stop
>>47223091
I feel like you should swap the middle one for the one where they're all frowning.
Alright, here we go.
>>47221356
I think it looks cool
>>47223140
>Worst assassin
FNP
8 attacks on the charge
Furious charge
3 wounds
4+ invul
Power sword
Fleshbane claw
Melta bomb
Silly full auto pistol
3d6 charge range
For 135 points? Give me 8, I'll run them every game.
>>47223155
There were decent conversations going on until one faggot mentions the OP image then all the other retards have to chime in.
>>47223140
Its great to be a melee army.
>>47223190
100/10 would start threads with.
>>47223155
No, not the worst one.
>>47222739
Nah, the cancer is people who need everyone to play like they do. The "Stop having fun wrong" crowd. Live and let live.
>>47223190
We've got our new general boys
Make sure that one anon doesn't fuck everything up again
>>47223190
This needs this in the middle, actually,
>>47223216
But those are the same people anon
>Bring stupid WAAC list
>Demand that they be allowed to use tourney houserules their list is designed to exploit
>Wonder why they don't get games
reminder that this is how retarded the emperor thought the horus heresy was
>>47223231
Nope, it still isn't funny.
>>47223198
You forgot
>t4
Oh no! I only have enough missile launchers and battle cannons to kill 4 of his assassins a turn, whatever will I do?
>>47223195
Thanks bruh.Technically they are still my friends who also posts here but I haven't bought them off him yet, just attempting to paint them.
I probably went a bit too bright on the blue but I like it.
>>47223122
I added it, just for you.
>>47223155
Nah, the one that I have in center in the revised image is more aesthetically pleasing, sums up why this thing has been made, and contrasts
>>47223200
We do it now and we'll never have them again.
It's the one cover image to rule them all.
in fact it quite litteraly binds them as well
the rest of the image, drawing your attention to it first.
No! Stop! The op image bullshot has to stop!
You must reply to this if you've lost a multi-wound model to the 30th anniversary marine free-S5AP2-InstantDeath gun.
>>47223287
It will.
This image shall end it all, uniting all sides under one cover.
Think about it anon. We have this now, and all the bitching about it ends. Imagine it anon: world with no more fights over the cover image. Free at last from all the fighting
>>47223325
remove chikin
>>47223261
>Not playing with enough terrain to hide a single model a few times each round
Are you even playing 40k?
>>47223264
>I added it
Many thanks
>>47223325
Don't you faggots forget about me, the guy that's hated the fucking image since the first face was drawn years ago
>>47223264
>do it now and we'll never have them again
I agree, lets just figure out what we want and stick with it. Then someone can compile this discussion to throw at the inevitable whining about the OP
I really like the version of the OP that was basically this>>47223149 with art below. I felt it was pleasing to the eye and substantive to the general. Now there was some fag complaining about "wallpapers", but jesus christ, its 40k art and its not like nobody won't spam art anyway.
>>47223287
Yes
>>47223344
No one cares Hipster Saruman
>>47223104
>orks can't deal with 4 bolt pistol shots in overwatch
>>47223325
I mean, if I were to be picky, the edges could be straighter...
>>47223360
>Now there was some fag complaining about "wallpapers"
That was chicken lover, who ironically hates tau thus loves the meme face for them
>>47222348
you are literally retarded
>>47223360
or, or, or
we can just stop talking about it. When someone starts talking about it, we still don't talk about it.
And now I will practice what I preach and stop talking about it, even if you continue talking about it.
>>47223248
Not always. Some know to bring casual lists to friendly games and have a seperate list for tourneys. But there is overlap.
>>47223305
Who even fields that thing? Jesus christ Im glad my flgs is faggot free.
>>47223382
At BS8? Not really, they'll lose enough models to fuck with the charge distance and/or die on arrival to >>47223198
>>47223408
So we follow the ancient ritual of report and hide?
>>47223412
I'll never understand why a person feels the need to bring whatever "Max Haxxors Meta Netlisted Flavor of the Month Spam" list in a causal pickup game.
It's hard to pick up games after you do that a few times.
>>47223384
Good thing we aren't being picky.
>>47223343
How much terrain are you playing with that it isn't possible to shoot anything?
What happens when you get in to combat and have to pick between being able to to wound a group of space marine bikers and being able to bypass their saves?
>>47223231
>I made that comment
I wasn't even talking bout the spamming, but the MLP picture.
>>47223305
>>47223419
How is a T4 3+ model HARD to kill? If it was a Red Scorpion with Loth in a Invisibility bubble, then sure.
>>47223457
Not much terrain, that's for sure.
Instead, I'm not being retarted and using what terrain there is to keep LOS off my assassin.
Then after melee time I can choose between str 5 powers sword or easy wound no ap. You should look into what "fleshbane" is, since you don't know. He will also sweep anything.
>>47223441
False reports result in you being banned so people don't do it in case the mod thinks you're false reporting.
>>47223262
Is your photo insinuating that your friend is VikingAnon and you decided to ruin your minis for a meme?
>>47222287
>Why can't Chosen take cult gear?
Once upon a time, they could. What you're really asking is
>Why did GW take the FUCKING AWESOME 3.5e CSM codex and throw all that shit away?
And the answer is: If GW was a person it would be an autistic toddler.
>40K players complain about Iron Warriors being OP. Apparently nobody noticed that letting CSM take 4 Basilisks was potentially going to be a problem.
"Fucking complaining customers! We'll show them... NEVER PRINT LEGION RULES AGAIN."
>WHFB players complain about Chaos being Mary Sue faction, talk about jumping ship to 40k like it doesn't have the same problem with Space Marines
"Fucking complaining customers! We'll show them... CHAOS WILL NEVER BE GOOD IN 40K AGAIN."
I'm given to understand that pic related isn't true, but god damn I wish GW would do that instead of essentially torpedoing entire swathes of its product lines to spite its own customers.
>>47223518
>How is a T4 3+ model HARD to kill? If it was a Red Scorpion with Loth in a Invisibility bubble, then sure
You're missing the point.
>>47223635
Not really. Sure, it's a 'powerful' weapon, but that can be nullified by pretty much anything. Mass bolters, Missile launchers or Demolisher Cannon.
>>47223583
Yeah only they are his models still and we don't think of it as ruining because we aren't pessimistic assholes.
>>47223104
Doesn't it die to a single rokket hit? Or get krumped by a claw in melee. Iirc, none of the assasins had Eternal Warrior.
>>47223742
The point is you are fielding a free upgrade because you bought a $30 space marine. If you are cool with that, ok. I just dont do shit like that.
If I switch from skit/mech to one of the following
Khorne Daemonkin
Chaos Daemons
CSM
What am I in for
>>47223520
>Not much terrain, that's for sure.
That makes no sense. Did you even read what I told you, shitposter?
You're strength 4 with the power sword, you only get strength 5 on the charge and you have to chooses between the fleshbane gauntlet or the power sword. What do you choose then?
Also, if you seriously think you're going to sweep marines you should look into what "and they shall know no fear" is, since you don't know.
>>47223804
An excuse to shitpost on /tg/
>>47223804
>Khorne Daemonkin
Blood flavoured fun
>Chaos Daemons
Warp flavoured fun
>CSM
Pain and suffering
>>47223520
If the ork is running big foot slogging mobs, they can take 8 casualties in cc and still krump the assassin.
If he isn't then they're meched up and a footslogging won't catch them, 3d6 charge or no.
>>47223804
Nothing but edginess and dinosaurs.
>>47223814
>An excuse to shitpost on /tg/
Explain
>>47223911
Chaos marines codex is shit, it's been shit for ages and it's player base whines ENDLESSLY about it on /tg/.
>>47223804
>KDK
If you want to play actual chaos space marines and still win, here's your option. Formations are pretty good, blood tithe is a great USR, has some great relics, and access to daemons guarantees you great assault troops.
>Chaos Daemons
Arguably one of the best codices in the game. Expensive to make a full army functional but it's basically four distinct supplements rolled into one megadex that will keep you entertained/hobbying for a long, long time.
>CSM
If you want to even have a real shot at winning you're fielding almost no actual chaos space marines. Dinobots are your only hope along with allies. Possible to play a solid fluffy list with some daemon allies, but almost always only as good as you are willing to take ever increasing percentages of daemon units.
>>47223911
Neither of the three armies is particularly good in the current meta, nor particularly recent in either codex or model attentions. It is not unreasonable to call these armies, "neglected."
>>47223789
Yeah but as I said, one dude. Vindicare will put the guy to sleep. I bought one for collection reasons. Scout Sniper. Demolisher Cannon. Etc. Etc.
If this was a 2+/3++ with the gun (which is 18") with T6, yeah I could see the worry. Otherwise it's just a meh upgrade I'll target to death.
Oh and don't forget, only vanilla Marines can take it :^)
>>47223929
>daemons
>not good
>Daemons
>No Models
>DAEMONS
>NEGLECTED
lies and slander. CSM are shit but KDK are great and Daemons are just below the eldar/tau/cron/muhreen level, and Wulfen just made them better
>>47221255
Tournaments that require paint.
>>47223963
I agree with you, Daemons fly under the radar for the amount of stuff they can pull off.
>>47223419
It was a tournament-prep WAAC game. So the whole point was to be big jerks to one another. Good times.
>>47223608
I love that image so much. GJ, anon.
>>47223942
>0pts
>Force the opponent to spend a turn shooting at it with a vindicare
>>47224052
I don't play any tournaments but have they ruled that thing yet? Either disallowing it or giving it a point cost.
Our LGS decided it is worth 20 points and must replace a Special/Heavy weapon.
>>47223999
>Buy the new Tzeentch robes
>Roll three times on melefic for cursed earth
My lord of change just gave himself a rerollible 2+ invulnerable and unlike smashfucker he didn't even need a cadre librarians to do it.
How can mortals even compete?
>word bearers are great at fighting!
>lost calth
>>47224082
>force the opponent to bring a vindicare
>>47224077
Arrrrgh! And I thought *my* Dad looked like a Mordor Orc!
>>47224089
20 is a bit steep I think, we decided upon 15 with the only consideration being the gun itself as the pistol and CCW are negligible really. I can understand the extra 5 points if you did take those into consideration though.
>>47223809
Power sword round 1, stabby claw next round
>sweep marines
It's called staying in combat and not getting shot
Learn the game/tactics, faggot. I don't give a shit how many bikes, or grav, or whatever bullshit you use because you have 0 tactical skill.
>>47223825
Of course then he has to deal with the str 5 explosion which will obliterate half of what remains.
>>47222348
>Judgement like yours is how Tom Kirby ended up in charge of GW.
Whoa. I've heard some shit on 4chan before but this is above and beyond fucked up.
>>47224246
>charge and kill 8
>kill another 11 with explosion
>114 points of boys
Good job. Almost made its points back.
Against ork boyz.
WHERE MY BOYS AT!? GUARDSMEN REPORT IN!
>>47224294
I am not sure if its just a meme but as the guy he was talking to I found it funny. >>47222454
More people seemed to like it than not but I am glad I will have a fully painted army soon enough.
>>47224246
I'm sorry but you must be complete stupid if you think that's going to work, the whole point is that you don't want to stay in combat with marines as you can't fucking wound their chaff reliably with anything other than an ap- weapon.
>dude, my assassin is auto-win in combat learn to play xDDD
Oh shit, my librarian has terminator armour and a force weapon, now what?
>>47224358
REPORTING COMMISSAR
>>47223963
Daemons are definitely as top tier as anyone else post decurion.
Fateweaver + new powers + detachment bonuses + new relics means any other army might be fortunate just to end the game with you having fewer models than you brought.
>>47220893
> CTRL-F
> "40k Gen"
> 0 Results
> Manually search through the images
FUCK OFF OP, YOU ARE AN INSUFFERABLE NIGGER. KILL YOURSELF BEFORE YOU CAN EVEN BREED AND REDUCE THE AVERAGE IQ OF THE PLANET.
>>47224386
>Daemons are definitely as top tier as anyone else post decurion.
>as anyone else post decurion.
>>47224164
I don't get it.
The Tau starter set is 450ish points depending on drones and kit.
For moving up to 750, I was thinking two hammerheads with stealth pods and submunitions, a base squad of sniper drones, and a second squad of FWs.
Is that fine, or is there some glaring flaw? It feels like more suits (crisis / stealth / broadside) wouldn't be worthwhile until there's enough points available to bring lots of them.
>>47224384
By the Emperor, did that Krieger just speak...
>>47224358
*ehem* Reporting for duty, Commissar!
>>47224352
This is why MURDERWINGS is the better option.
> Use Orbital Bombardment as Assault Weapon
> Kill 7 ork boyz with it
> S6shred HOW kills an ork boy
> 12 attacks on the charge, kills 9 - 10 Ork-boyz
> So many ork boyz dead that their consolidate fails to get them in melee
> Sweeping advance the remainder off the table
> 200 point model solos 30 ork boyz that are double his points cost.
Eversor assassin go home. You're oudated.
>>47224384
>>47224467
PRESENT YOUR COPIES OF THE UPLIFTING PRIMER IMMEDIATELY!
>>47224409
I pour one out for you ;_;7
I always forget the IG even exist
Like sure the Imperium has an army of meatshields to complement the elite Space Marines, but I forget that army has models and different types of units and a whole fluff
>>47224479
>30 Ork Boyz are 400pts
try 180
210 with shootas
>>47224493
It's comments like this that really dig deep for an IG player like me. Even the SoB who are all but squatted are better remembered than the IG.
>>47224508
They are with 'Eavy armour, which is what my Ork-bro takes.. Despite everyone at the store constantly telling him to stop taking it because its wasting points.
>>47224480
I have it right here, Commissar!
>>47221356
there is literally nothing wrong with this color scheme
>>47224082
And? Again, nothing special. If he's in a Tact Squad, a Vindicator will kill the lot. EZPZ.
>>47224529
your Ork bro sounds like he's in denial, but its not exactly like not taking Eavy Armour is going to get him to win more games, especially if people use Murderwings on him
HEY WHAT ARE TRYANIDS LIKE NOW??
>>47224523
>SoB
>remembered more than IG
How so? Cause they had 1 (ONE) mention in Warzone: Fenris? Cause they had a small part to play in Shield of Baal?
IG were the main fuckers in Warzone: Damocles, which is recent, with unique relics and formations.
SoB aren't remembered at all.
>>47224571
Google first.
>>47224534
>Damocles Gulf edition
Shit's outdated senpai
>>47224523
"Relatively ordinary normal dudes with ordinary guns and ordinary tanks in ordinary armor and ordinary colors" just isn't super memorable
>>47224571
The same mostly, depending on when you last played
>>47224534
Show me the page with the box that must remain untarnished. Just the front cover is useless, I must inspect the pages!
>>47224558
In a typical 3000 point game(Which is my store's preferred points level), he spends 900 points on 'eavy armour. That's 900 points that will never be used, because every anti-infantry weapon in the entire game is at least AP4.
Whenever he goes a game without using 'Eavy Armour, he always complains afterwards that he SHOULD HAVE taken it, because the two chainswords in murderwings' meatshield escort would have let him take the armour save.
>>47224591
>Ordinary tanks
Cute. Also, you forgot to add on "fighting against incredibly powerful xenos and heretics with only the faith of the emperor to protect them." onto the end of that sentence.
>>47224596
First off Kudos for having 3000points preferred but, wow,how dumb can one git be.
>>47224441
What starter kit?
>>47224615
>This is what Imperial Guard actually think
If the Emperor had any faith in you he wouldn't need us.
>>47224591
4th edition nids ;_;
>>47224639
The start collecting box I would imagine.
>>47224441
I bought a second starter and a riptide
Then got a tau commander in a suit
There's no point in buying just a box of fire warriors when you'll want more crisis suits eventually. So might as well get a second starter set to save money
>>47224596
Right here, Commissar. I've done my best to keep the pages clean.
Shooty or choppy
>>47224384
Whats wrong, can't find your book mute?
>>47224679
Burny.
>>47224657
> What the Imperial Guard think
https://regimental-standard.com/2016/05/11/mankinds-destiny-made-manifest/
Trooper, I will have you know that the Imperial guard are only ever issued the best gear imaginable. In fact, the Imperial guard are actually so important, that they are given ear-plugs and sunglasses, so that they can stand next to titans unimpeded.
This article(Which is by the way, not propaganda at all, and it would be heresy to claim otherwise), clearly states that every guardsman is just as important to the war efforts as a WARLORD TITAN. Whether its serving as a temporary distraction for the god machine's foes, or cleaning piss from the latrines, every man is equally important. That is why all guardsmen are issued earplugs and sunglasses, so that they can stand next to a warlord titan and it's mighty weapons!
Everyone knows that while the mighty Quake Cannons produce a shockwave that can liquify brains, earplugs are perfect protection from their mighty sound. As well, you need also only wear these convenient sunglasses in order to look directly at the mighty Sunfury Plasma Annihilators.
And don't forget to take your iodine pills when the warlord titans use their nuclear missile racks. They will keep you more than safe from the blasts.
>>47224672
Yeah, that's true. I'm not buy anything more until I finish painting what I got, so I hadn't thought about price.
I'm getting the starter set for $50, so the more the merrier.
>>47224679
Both, in order to use the time tested tactic of shooting the choppy and chopping the shooty.
>>47224591
>"Relatively ordinary normal dudes with ordinary guns and ordinary tanks in ordinary armor and ordinary colors" just isn't super memorable
Special snoflake detected. I bet your a xeno faggot anyways.
>>47224726
>I will have you know that the Imperial guard are only ever issued the best gear imaginable.
Flashlights, you are equipped with flashlights and common airport vendor merchandise.
>>47224596
I'll take Things that Have Never Happened for 50, bob
>>47224480
I have mine right here sir! And I have already taken the liberties of opening it to page 54!
>>47224726
THIS RIGHT HERE MEN IS AN OUTSTANDING EXAMPLE OF A SOLDIER. I BET HE EVEN HAS HIS COPY OF THE UPLIFTING PRIMER ON HIM IN PERFECT CONDITION, RIGHT SOLDIER!?
>>47224534
>>47224674
>>47224696
>>47224793
GOOD WORK TROOPERS! ANY REPORTS OF XENOS OR HERETICS IN THE AREA!?
Where can I find the renegade knights rules ? I can find the Chaos Knights ones on FW but can't find the Renegade ones.
>>47224757
>Special snoflake detected. I bet your a xeno faggot anyways.
I play sci-fi to play sci-fi, not WW1 trench warfare armies
>>47224089
kek. I have no clue. My opponent's position was that he paid $30 for the model and he was going to use the rules out of the box. It was such an extreme case of GW pay-for-lethality I just had to chuckle as I pulled off my tyrant. Fuck it. I'm not going to cry about army-men.
>>47224805
None here sir! I found a few, but I took the liberty of killing them all personally with my boot knife. Their filthy blood is sitting in my canteen, sir, waiting to be offered as a tribute to the Emprah, their skins have been flayed to be made into new regimental banners, and their bodies left at the front of the camp as an example.
I feel great, sir. Would do it again in a heartbeat!
>>47224858
fat people are disgusting
>>47224875
>Their filthy blood is sitting in my canteen, sir
THAT SOUNDS LIKE HERESY TO ME SOLDIER!
*BLAM*
>>47224774
You are very much wrong trooper. The common Lasgun is easily one of the most potent weapons in the entire universe, capable of killing nearly anything in but a single shot(Albeit, with some luck). It is even far superior to the so called Tau, whose silly laser weapons can only so much as hope to temporarily dazzle you.
https://regimental-standard.com/2016/03/04/tau-technology-inferior-2/
Here, this article serves as undeniable proof of the superiority of your kit!
>>47224858
I don't know what the chances of one shot landing a wound on a flyrant are but if the dice gods thought you deserved it who am I to question.
The moment it was leaked my LGS owner posted fliers in the game room informing everyone of the house rule. He didn't force it either we had a straw pole and it was overwhelming. 60% for 20pts a few for 15 and ten and maybe two for no house rule.
That is coming from a (probably) 50/50 split with people playing some variation of Space Marines.
>>47222822
Isn't the wording in the Adeptes Astartes codex identical to the wording in the Chaos Space Marine codex? Kranon is a legal build for a Chaos Lord, which would mean that the wording in Codex: Adeptes Astartes is sufficient to allow multiple relics.
>>47224942
6's to hit, 5's to wound, versus a 4+ jink
It's a %0.0275 chance of killing a flyrant.
>>47221137
That's a cool picture, you got a sauce friendo?
>>47224805
No, Commissar. All heretics encountered today have been wiped out and brought to their knees. Emperor permits it, this sector will be cleansed within the next week.
>>47224596
>That's 900 points that will never be used, because every anti-infantry weapon in the entire game is at least AP4.
I'm not arguing that 'Eavy Armour isn't absurdly overpriced, but the vast majority of small arms fire is AP5 or higher.
>>47224805
I believe we have some greenskins on our hands commissar
>>47224702
>>47224883
Agreed.
I'm working on losing weight and it amazes me how people try to coddle me and how many other fat guys at the store are MAD that I'm now under 300lbs.
>>47224805
yo commissar sorry i'm late man I brought my primer and shit
Hey guys, new player here. I noticed that the codex entry for Tyranid Warriors says that they can take any basic melee or basic ranged weapon. Is it possible to take two pairs of one type of weapon? IE two pairs of scything talons or two deathspitters? If so, are there any benefits to doing so?
>>47225196
good for you anon. best of luck.
>>47225196
geeze where do you play, McDonalds?
Out of 30+ 40k players at my shop there is only one really fat guy.
A few of the guys are out of shape but most are average.
>>47225259
BY THE EMPEROR! I'M GOING TO HAVE TO CALL FUKLAW IN FOR THIS LEVEL OF HERESY!
>>47225270
If you take 2 pairs of melee weapons, you get an extra attack in close combat. That applies to any pair of melee weapons though, so you could have a pair of boneswords and a pair of talons and still benefit, but you only choose one two swing with.
While I think you can technically pick two ranged weapons, you can't fire both in the same turn. Unless you want to do something odd like buy both a heavy weapon and a standard one for versatility, there's not much reason to.
>>47225277
Funny you should mention McDonalds, I've actually lost 10 pounds of weight eating nothing but McDonalds for a whole month. Literally all there is to it is eating one biscuit and a cup of coffee for breakfast, then followed by a mcchicken and coffee for lunch and dinner.
Calories motherfucker, you can get them from literally anywhere, and all you really need to worry about is just consuming less than 1500 calories a day.
>>47225270
Two pairs scything talons gives you a bonus attack for 2 CCW. Two deathspitters does nothing, since you can only fire one of them per turn.
>>47225289
oh shit
can I get a re-do, this is so embarrassin' man
>>47225259
My word, Commissar... How upsetting it is to see that you are unable to keep your guardsmen in line... Hm... Maybe some more drastic measures need to be taken.
>>47225277
You wanna laugh?
There's a fucking gym across the street.
And yet there are guys over 300lbs in the shop all the time.
I'm finally around 270 and I need to lose 100 more. Shit is gonna take a while.
>>47225277
I'm guessing you are not american. I am and probably half the shop are fats.
>>47224407
Try "mer 40"
>>47225345
Don't worry lord inquisitor, I already sent the request in.
>>47225366
but I am. The GW I started at was terrible but I play in a better neighborhood and most people are either upper class with a gym membership or have a physical blue collar job like myself.
>>47225356
I don't even know what I should weigh for my height but no one has refereed to me as fat so I guess that's good.6 even and almost 200lbs
>>47225433
I'm 5'10 and supposed to be between 140 and 180, (a bit closer to 180 for me due to my stocky as fuck frame) so make of that what you will.
>>47225366
Eh, it's a local thing. I go to two different stores.
One is full of completely normal dudes.
the other is populated predominantly by fat guys.
Ironically, the fat dudes are the best guys to play with, because they're overall good dudes and willing to play unique situations and scenarios and homebrew stuff.there's also this woman from her mid-forties that frequents the place like all the time, but never actually plays. She's cool, but she came from Vietnam after the fall of Saigon, and she's got horrible burns on her arm. None of us have asked about it.
>>47224358
Reporting commissar
>>47225356
>>47225433
>tfw eternally hungry and thirst yet I can't gain weight and look unattractively skinny
>tfw all the food I eat would stop the heart of a mortal man
Hyperthyroidism sucks. 6'3" and 150 pounds.
>>47224805
>GOOD WORK TROOPERS! ANY REPORTS OF XENOS OR HERETICS IN THE AREA!?
No, Sir! No signs of any Xenos here!
>>47225497
EXCELLENT WORK, SOLDIER. KEEP ALERT FOR ANY SIGNS OF HERESY AND REPORT IT DIRECTLY TO ME.
>>47225517
*Murderous beeping*
>>47223804
>What am I in for
Heresy anon, you're up for heresy.
So at higher points (like 4000+) when I have to bring my terminators would it be worth trying out the new powers to try and make them playable. I think if I could get that veil of time on them they would almost be usable. There was another power I am forgetting that looked good as well.
>>47225497
>>47225517
Turn around and I will guarantee you a hasty death.
>>47225632
Beep Beep Boop Blip Don't Worry, fellow warhound, I'll handle this
>>47225688
Over my bloody fangs, coward.
>>47225701
*BEEP BOOP MOTHERFUCKER*
>>47224122
>lost calth
>and the shadow crusade
>and pretty much everything since then
I just inherited a bunch of Chaos Spess Muhreenz. No vehicles, just a bunch of marines, a hellbrute, some chosen, a sorceror, a Lord, and a dark Apostle.
My understanding is that CSM are total shit right now, and infantry-based CSM doubly so. Is this true? Is there literally any sign of a new CSM codex dropping soon?
I'm planning on painting them as Emperor's Children and fielding lots of sorcerors/posessed, as a warband who spends waaaaaay too much time in the warp.
>>47225681
You could use that one fulmination power to teleport them and a librarian to swap with another squad, which should make them much faster at assaulting
>>47225688
>>47225713
BROTHERS!!! YOU ARE FORTUNATE THAT WE HAVE ARRIVED IN TIME TO SAVE YOU FROM THESE DISGUSTING HERETICS>>47225497
>>47225517
GLORY TO THE GALACTIC PARTRIDGES! HAIL THE MIGHTY FEATHERED HEROS!
>>47224975
Is that the latest version? Didn't the 7th Edition Crimson Slaughter fix this and make him an actual HQ?
Hey, fa/tg/uys & ca/tg/irls. The Codex: Orks Space Odin Edition is updated.
> Power Choppas up to 17 points (not two-handed).
> Limit placed on FNP; Cybork + Dok's Tools + Endurance from Biomancy doesn't net a 2+ FNP now, because fuck anyone who would roll thatKing Shit of Punch Mountain, aka Smashfucker.
> 'Ere We Go is +2 Initiative rather than double.
Nobz are motherfuckers now. Next Update gets formations/Decurion.
Ver.: May 2016
>>47225713
The Wolves are now siding against the Inquisition with the Tau. Truly dogs worthy of being put down!
>>47225757
Link please?
>>47225762
That's a big sword.
>>47225517
I wonder if I could pull that off as a conversion...
>>47225701
This is the darkest heresy I've seen, and I've read the Horus Heresy series.
>speak to the (albeit, not official) Games Workshop media team about 30th Ann Space Marine
>"Yeah you can't officially use it in anything other than Codex Space Marines... but it's your hobby lol so you can!"
Well duh. I felt like asking why it didn't have points but it's unlikely to leave my box.
>>47225795
insert /tv/ meme
>>47224975
>Space Marine, Space Wolves, Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Chaos Space Marines, Harlequin, and Eldar codices say, "May replace one weapon with one [Army Relic]," or, "May replace one weapon with one of the following."
>Limit of 1 Relic per model, exceptions made for the limited relics within each codex caveated to not replace weapons.
>>47225985
Correct. Only Necrons and Orks are affected by this. Everybody else can use as many as possible.
So kill team is starting to get good for my guard. Even though I had to fight Horus twice the first week, I'm gaining a lot of points off the the remaining rounds.
>>47226027
> Fighting a 500 point model in a 250 point game
I don't know what the fuck you're doing, but this doesn't sound like Kill Teams.
>>47226045
Maybe it's a 500 point game?
>>47225999
Your wrong. It also affects Grey Knights. How's it feel being wrong?
>>47225999
Again, the FAQ is not an errata, but a clarification. Space Marines can replace one weapon with a relic, and that means that they can only replace one weapon.
However, in addition to the one replacement relic chosen, they can also take The Armour Indomitus, as that item doesn't replace a relic.
You cannot take The Burning Blade with The Primarch's Wrath on the same model. And that's not FAQ, that's RAW.
>>47226058
Still, this doesn't sound like kill teams at all. Why the fuck would you be playing against Horus in it? He's not even in the damn army lists, and neither are any special characters of any kind.
>>47226045
200 point kill team, requires 1 troop at minimum capacity. Allowed to take up to 2 additional troops, 2 elites, 2 fast, and 2 heavy units or models.
>>47226062
>Your wrong
>Your
I dunno, you tell me.
>>47226086
The problem was the idea of, say, replacing Chainsword with Melee Weapon and Pistol with Pistol/Melee weapon. That's what I thought. I play BA and their relics are shit so lol why would I need to bother reading the rules.
Forgive me for being slow but I'm just now actually looking at the riptide's profile.
Does the multi-tracker simply allow it to use ripple fire? I don't remember any player ever shooting the main gun twice so I'm assuming each one can only be fired once unless you're ripple firing.
>>47226109
>dunno
You can't even spell out 'don't know'. Terrible.
>>47226113
The Multi-tracker does nothing on the Riptide, as an MC can already fire 2 weapons. This would be the Riptide's main gun and the secondary smart missiles, fusion, or plasma.
>>47226062
>Dark Eldar, Necrons, Grey Knights, Skitarii, Cult Mechanicus, Adepta Sororitas, Imperial Knights, Inquisitors, and Orks wargear lists says, "A model may take one of the following."
>Limit 1 per model, barring item specific caveats
Khorne Daemonkin has both limits. "A model may take one of the following..." Or "A model may instead replace one weapon with one of the following..."
>Still a 1 per model limit.
>Chaos Daemons only has a limit of one per army, but the codex employs specific mechanics which make it roughly impossible for a character to end up with more than one.
>Tyranids codex says, "A model may replace any pair of scything talons with one of the following." Only one model has more than one scything talon, but Norn Crown and Ymgarl Factor can also be taken without weapon replacement.
>Legion of the Damned only has one relic, total.
>Tempestus Scions, and stand-alone factions like Officio Assassinorum, Deathwatch, Genestealer Cultists, and Renegade Knights don't seem to have relics.
>Tau and Astra Militarum only seems to have a limit of one of each item per army. I see no restrictions per-model restrictions, although some Astra Militarum Heirlooms may only be taken by specific models or replace an item.
>Near as I can tell, every supplement uses the relic restrictions of their parent codex/faction. In most cases a unit may choose from either the parent list or the supplemental list, "instead." In other cases, an individual model may chose from either list "instead." In both cases, relics from both lists may be within the same detachment. Most of the Space Marines factions have more than one "One-per army" wargear list classification, with Banners and Relics being notably different lists, and their supplemental models may select the parent version of one list and the supplement version of another list.
>>47226086
If t hat's the case, then BA can take loads.
Angelic Visage isn't a 'wargear' piece. It doesn't replace anything.
The Jet Pack relic the same.
Vitas Vitae as well.
So he can take Valour's Edge and the other three then?
>>47226141
Alright so I was correct when I was reading it as useless because you can only fire each gun once anyway. For a second there I thought RAW Riptide's could fire their main gun twice a turn.
>>47226090
That's not kill teams at all, that's the white-dwarf version of it with a bastardized rule-set. You really should be downloading the army-lists from Heralds of Ruin.
Actual Kill-Teams consists of teams that are 1 Leader Choice, 1 to 20 core choices, and 0 to 3 special choices. All of the leader models have 1 additional wound on top of their base profile, and each army list has it's own relic/special issue wargear unique only to kill-teams.
Also, Horus is a 600+ point model. From 30k. And is the most powerful single-infantry model in the entire game. Unless you're retarded, I absolutely fucking don't think you've been seeing big-daddy horus himself in a kill teams game.
>>47226129
Dunno is a contraction. It is grammatically correct and in the dictionary.
Do you not know what 'contractions' are, anon?
Pathetic. Contemptible. Laughable. Unacceptable.
Hang your head in shame.
>>47222832
Die
>>47222832
>>47223014
Make a batrep and post it please
>>47226152
Looks that way to me.
>>47226172
Never said it wasn't in a dictionary. It's just a faggot's way of saying 'don't know.'
You should probably kill yourself for thinking only Orks and Necrons were affected from that rule. Refer to this >>47226151 and kindly stop talking or committing to the conversation, because you obviously aren't informed at all on the subject matter.
>>47226160
It was Horus, it had his model, my opponent kept going off on how great Horus was, and Screamed out "I'm the Warmaster!" when he wiped out most of my kill team with an orbital bombardment while playing on Zone Mortalis.
>>47226217
>says I'm wrong
>I point out he can't spell "you're"
>N-n-no 'dunno' is f-f-for f-f-faggots!
Pathetic. Here is your final (You), shitposter-kun!
Oh and fun note. I wasn't even that faggot, I just like pointing out gut-wrenching hypocrisy when I see it.
Don't bother replying, I've already marked you down as the pathetic (You) gatherer you are. So long.
>>47226224
Then you were playing against an insufferable faggot who was blatantly cheating. Orbital Bombardment doesn't work in Zone Mortalis because Barrage weapons don't work in ZM. Kill-teams can't take Chapter Masters who would have them either, and neither can they take any of the special characters from the badab war. It's literally not even an option that can be obtained in that game-type.
>>47226247
Good you can finally shut up now and stop shitting up the thread with your misinformation. Thank god.
>>47226250
Well, it just happens to the guy who ends up drawing odd man out for the week.
>>47226258
I was the original guy, you obviously are new to /40kg/ and got triggered. It's a meme, you dip. Read the fucking archives if you don't believe me.
Oh and for you arguing with that faggot about words, you obviously can't read. By the way, not following simple orders is a sign of autism. He said don't reply, so you did. You're the one shitting up this thread, he just added to it, but at least he stopped, you continued on, like the autistic fuck you are.
Gonna spell it out.
Don't.
Reply.
To.
This.
>>47226212
Shame they're not worth it. Maybe the AP2 sword.
>>47226151
>You can stack relics for IG/Cadia, although some relics are exclusive to certain HQs and each unit must choose between the lists.
>Farsight Enclaves' most recent stand-alone format allows a single model to select from both lists, potentially allowing up to 14 relics on a single model, if they pay the points.
>>47226275
I have no idea what you're trying to say. Also, please do try to obtain close-up pictures of his model, I really want to see if his Horus the Warmaster is a recast or not. Believe it or not, there are more recast horus models out there, then there are real ones.
>>47226290
You're obviously the same guy just shitting up the thread and making excuses for being wrong. Just stop it's embarrassing. I told you, you were wrong and you respond with some stupid spelling error I made. Your fat ego must be immense.
>>47226312
I was this guy >>47226152 I couldn't give a fuck. I would go into the archive to grab the meme posts about it only affecting Necrons and Orks when the FAQ dropped but you can't follow simply orders.
Here. Have fun replying again :3
>>47226312
>>47226290
It's guys like you that force people to pop a new thread early.
>>47226333
I will. My responses are shorter and more to the point anyways. Stay wrong and mad.
>>47226062
You're wrong (or should that be Your?). It also affects others. See >>47226151. Try to be right in the future anon.
>>47225757
My god man, LINKS. The page for SpaceOdin Orks doesn't update itself, I can't update your fandex on the wiki if it doesn't have any links.
>>47226336
>reply to him
>explain it's a meme
>ask him not to reply again
>he does
Oh boy, it's sure is my fault. I stopped replying to him. The other guy didn't.
Now >>47226350 is jumping into it.
And it's also 385 posts. It's dying anyway. This always happens.
Tzeentch Daemonkin when?
>>47226350
I never said those weren't affected. Keep pretending not to be that same guy though. Very mature kid.
>>47226362
Not soon enough.
>>47226362
hopefully when they release the new lord of change model and variants this year
I'd actually maybe invest in some thousand sons to go with my bird daemons
>>47226361
Shitposting misinformation that's only been around since the faq's release sure is a good meme. Stay wrong.
>mfw this thread
>mfw I'm just sitting here watching people argue about the dumbest things ever
>mfw I know it's useless to try to stop them
>mfw I know I'm probably going to do the same thing in the next general
How do I convert Barack Obama into a Tzeentch Daemon Prince without being racist?
>>47226425
Make it wear a KFC bucket for armor and hold a watermelon.
>>47226411
Its okay anon, when it gets to the point the posts aren't 40k related, just report and hide them. Have a pretty picture
>>47226380
Actually, it's been around a lot longer. Because originally, before the FAQ, Orks and Necrons WERE the only ones with the different wording. Space Marines players interpreted as "replace both weapons with a relic" while the Orks and Necrons specifically say only one, regardless.
When the FAQ dropped, several people starting saying it only affected them, again, check the archive. We had 5 threads of arguments including "it only affects Necrons and Orks" which is why I replied that. Since, guess what, 99% of people in the thread will be in the next one. Just cause some guy took it as legit and then started going "Hur dur ur wrong xDD how does it feel????" and another guy got into a shitposting fest with him isn't a plan.
You gonna write a massive post when we get the usual
>Orks
>Melee Race
>I2
>6++
Bollocks?
>>47225985
>>47226151
>>47226308
I kinda wanna look deeper into this. What supplements go with which factions? Is there a copy of the 2016 WAAAGH Gasketskull? Am I wrong about Tempestus and the boxed-set factions?
>>47226434
For when your're ready
>>47226434
No need to leave now
>>47226434
We can take this nice and easy
>>47226434
>>47226425
Is this a real WIP? Pics?
Its also only racist if you intend it to be racist :')
>>47225356
Slow and steady anon, weight you lose quickly usually returns faster.
>>47226411
eh if the autistic guy had just shrugged off the fact he spelled you're wrong and didn't get into a shitfest with the others, it'd have been OK, but autism is a hella of a drug.
>>47226439
Does it auto hide for you guys now? Does for me.
>>47226425
>read your post
>google Barack Obama 28mm model
>see this
Shame it isn't 28mm.
>>47225277
We have three heavy weights over where I live. They get to contend over "The Chair". It's the only one big enough for them to fit in/ not break. I'm close to 300 pounds my self but these guys are in a league by themselves. I'm with the other anon trying to loose weight.
>>47226425
Just make his skin blue.
>>47226362
Slaanesh daemonkin when?
>>47226705
Last, if ever. There's no way it's coming before Tzeentch or Nurgle
>>47227013
Is there gonna be a CSM codex or are we just daemonkin now?
Where do I start learning the lore that is W40K?
>>47227432
wh40k lexicanum com
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