Pathfinder General - /pfg/
REMOVE KELESH FROM PREMISES edition
Also, share your Party's first experience with PoW.
Old thread: >>47202941
Warlock, arcane duelist, masked performer, or dervish dancer for a super low powered campaign with like 3 new PF players?
>>47210810
Unified /pfg/ link repository:
http://pastebin.com/5F8RNubX
Not that I can blame you for forgetting, in your haste to purge that shitstorm.
>>47210880
I'd go Arcane Duelist, though that's because I don't know rest of party make-up. That way you'll have both combat and buff support versatility
Which is the better investigator archetype: empiricist for Int SAD or questioner for bard spells and bardic knowledge?
That last thread certainly got lively.
Are you looking forward to your next session, /pfg/?
Has Paizo ever explained how Imbue with Spell Ability works for spontaneous / non-cleric casters?
I mean, it's just sitting there right on the spiritualist's spell list.
>>47210810
The first time my party experienced PoW was when it kicked down the door and raped everyone and their mother. The literal book did that right before slapping the DM and telling the paladin, fighter, rogue and barbarian that they were all obsolete faggots, this made the paladin cry and fall, the barbarian then raped her while impaling the rogue in a demonic ritual. The now antipaladin shit on the fighters chest in frustration and anger, then the demon the barbarian summoned made her eat it, before it ate the fighter. The demons presence also made her spontaneously give birth to the barbarians baby, who was raped by the necrotic corpse of the rogue...
Overall it was pretty bad, we call this incidentthe dreamscarred press
>>47210909
Empiricist is generally considered the best Investigator archetype, but Questioner is pretty great itself for adding more spells to your list.
>>47210810
>Also, share your Party's first experience with PoW.
Found it blatanly OP when the party didn't die to crabs
Also pretty fun
So we kept it and just modified encounters instead.
>>47210910
Yes, we're going a-raiding aboard a pirate ship and looking for phat loot. Also advancing character arcs and side-stories, which is always fun!
>>47210927
That's a false sense of security! You knew your GM will drop a flying T-rex on you at some point!
Kinetic Blade might not be your main attack, but it is there to cover your weakness.
>>47210962
As an asian, I don't get high level english jokes, I'm sorry.
>>47210908
I have a
1) Really unoptimized soulblade whose experiences with death averaging about twice a session made him into a coward who only throws his mindblades, despite not having all the relevant feats.
2) A fey adept who never uses illusions despite the class being designed around it because he feels like 'illusions are too weak'
3) A healbot oracle. Just healing.
Every turn.
Healing.
Healing.
Healing.
4) A medium who has no clue what he is doing. The DM also has no clue what the medium is doing. Thus, medium spends most of his turns running around the battlefield getting his hp punched down to the ground.
>>47208876
I'm not clever enough to think of any flavor text to describe him. I did not add the raging statistics, but he gains natural armor and claws while going into a Thrashing Dragon stance when doing it.
>>47211124
The joke is called "the aristocrats". It's more just an excuse to be vulgar than anything.
>>47211124
>As an asian, I don't get high level english jokes, I'm sorry.
I don't know why I find this so funny
>>47211132
Generally speaking, Barbarian statblocks include the effects as though they were in a Rage.
Also, is there any reason that this is a human as opposed to, say, a Skinwalker?
Have a octovine as a thank-you gift, all the same.
>>47211166
Because to us your democracy is a joke too. We don't get it.
So... Which VMC options are worth putting on a bard? I kinda want to do Alchemist but it doesn't seem to be worth the feats. I assume I wouldn't get extract progression.
>>47210810
The earliest I remember was when a buddy of mine played a sword and board Warder. He was doing some pretty cool TWF and "tanking" with it, which convinced me to read the system. Seemed like a less powerful version of casting at first, but what sold me on it was that there was more to do with some of the lesser used actions and it made combat more than 5ft steps and full attacks.
>>47211184
Oh, were you under the impression we were a democratic country? I could see how the language barrier might cause the confusion, being that we call it that. No, my friend from the Far East, the United States of America are firmly in plutocrat territory now.
>>47211124
It's its not a high-level joke, its just virt being his unfunny and overly edgy self.
>>47211180
I looked up Skinwalker on Wikipedia.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin-walker
>In Navajo (Navajo: Diné) culture, a skin-walker (yee naaldlooshii) is a type of witch who has the ability to turn into an animal, or to disguise themselves as an animal.
That sounds like a Barbarian with the beast totem.
>>47211286
As the guy who posted it, it's satire. Chill the conspiracy theory shit.
>TheKalistocrats
>>47211337
I mean the Skinwalker race in Pathfinder. But now that you point that out, a Beast Totem Barbarian works fine!
>>47211338
>it's satire.
You're doing it wrong. That's not how satire works at all you mong
>>47211286
And the point of a good "the aristocrats" joke is that it's unfunny, edgy and maybe even slightly uncomfortable.
I don't claim that it was a particularly great one, because it wasn't particularly inspired, but if you can't recognize it... Well I dunno man.
>>47211337
Wearing animal skin is a witch hex introduced in the same book.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/base-classes/witch/hexes---3rd-party-publishers/hexes/major-hexes/hex-major-animal-skin-su
What ways are there for a human witch to become immortal? Vampire and lich are obvious, and I know about Penanggalen as well, but the method of becoming one isn't clear.
Alternatively, is there a transformation you can undergo that has some correlation to the Proteans?
>Also, share your Party's first experience with PoW.
I made a Mystic, then the game blew up two sessions later for reasons entirely unrelated.
>>47211379
Being mistaken for virt should really make one evaluate themselves.
>>47211404
reincarnate is a really cheap way to become functionally immortal.
>>47211354
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/other-races/more-races/standard-races-1-10-rp/skinwalkers-10-rp
I didn't know these were a thing.
I only have the first two Bestiaries, and /pfg/ only posts the lewd or cute entries from new ones that come out.
>>47211410
Except that none of the things attributed to him (pathfinder is balanced, SJW actually exist in real life) apply to me? Well I guess the remove elf part is spot on.
>>47211425
It's also a way to become a Goblin.
>>47211372
That is exactly how satire works. It is literally part of how the word is defined.
>>47211425
In character, I wouldn't tolerate being a non-human
>>47211384
I never really understood the point or appeal of The Aristocrats jokes, so I never went out of my way to look for them or make connections to them.
Much in the same way why I can't understand the appeal of Drawn Together, and movies made by Seltzer and Friedberg
Help me, /pfg/. My autism has triggered again.
I've been browsing the internet researching several mythological and legendary swords and learning about their histories for my current character, which is a PsyArm.
So far, I've looked up 50+ kinds of swords, and statted them based off the magic weapon enchantment table.The best sword is the Shamshir-e Zomorodneggar by the way. Especially when fighting against casters because "lol, what magical defense, nerd?"
>>47211404
Mythic 1
AFAIK you can just stick your face into a mythic vent and poof, you're mythic 1 now.
>>47211439
Then just kill yourself again and re-roll? It is really cheap, you permanently change your appearance, AND you reset your age to young adult without all of the negative effects of becoming undead.
>>47210910
>want to be excited for session
>tfw I might be the reason we don't get to play this week
>tfw trying to get in contact with people to find out timing for shit is an absolute nightmare
>mfw IRL nobody can wrap their head around any of my hobbies and refuse to accept it as a reason for anything, so I'm stuck dancing around them
>somehow I'm the most proactive player in my group, and they barely function if I don't get things moving, so I can't even tell them to start without me
Just lay me down to die.
>>47211437
You were mistaken for virt because of your autistic, combative posting style and not so much your opinions.
>remove elf
I will never understand people like this.
>>47211463
>taking negative levels
C'mon guy
>>47211459
DM banned mythic
>>47211457
Eh the best one I ever heard was just this really cute, harmless, hopelessly innocent show.
Talent agent goes "what do you guys call your act?"
Family responds "the cock sucking motherfuckers".
It's mostly a pretty meta joke, often designed simply to be vulgar or offend, told in some situations for shock value. Impossible to shock anyone on 4chan though.
>>47210909
Wait, does the Empiricist and Questioner not stack?
>>47211534
I think they both replace poison lore.
>>47210909
Empiricist if you want to go Sherlock Holmes
Use intelligence for social skills, be a master of many skills like lock-picking and chemistry and medicine.
Questioner if you want to go John Constantine
Use Charisma to talk yourself into and out of trouble. Access a few dabbled bard spells for subversion and trickery.
>>47211439
Or just use cyclic reincarnation
>Cyclic reincarnation returns the dead creature to life in a new body of the same race that the target belonged to in life, and the new body appears physically similar to the creature’s previous one, to the extent that the creature could be easily mistaken for its own offspring or kin.
>>47211436
...dammit that's fuggin' awesome.
>>47211447
No, Satire is stuff like a Modest Proposal, The Life of Brian, Planet of the Apes (original), and Don Quixote.
Aristocrats Jokes are not satire, they're just obscene, edgy, disgusting and mean-spirited for no adequate purpose other than to be those things, whereas proper satire has a purpose to exist and generally possesses some slight level of subtlety.
Saying Aristocrats jokes are satire, is lake saying modern Family Guy, newspaper political cartoons, and the Drawn Together Movie are satires. They're not, they're just stupid and rely on shock value and low hunor in a vain attempt to garner attention despite having essentially all the substance of a a vacuum tube
>>47211436
Not gonna lie. Wysps would make fucking awesome familiars.
>>47211617
Well it's a good thing they're on the Improved Familiar list then.
>>47211436
>/pfg/ only posts the lewd or cute entries from new ones that come out
All 5 bestiaries are in the trove, if you follow the pastebin link that's (usually) in the OP of any /pfg/ thread.
>>47211499
They are temporary.
>>47211480
I'm just tired of the "better than you, and more beautiful too" elfs that people play. Why does no one play a muscle elfs?
>>47211602
The joke was used to satire the shitposter dumbass. Through a position that was ridiculous and farcical.
Reminder that Magical Child Vigilantes may gain access to Companion to the Lonely.
>>47211643
Speak for yourself, my Elves tend to be fullN'Wah
>>47211668
Reminder that companion to the lonely is not for the sexual. Cuddling , head patting and handholding only.
Tail brushing is acceptable for kitsunes.
>>47211632
I'm good. There isn't much in them that fits the flavor in my future not!Delian League game.
>>47211354
When I'm more awake, I can make a few changes so it can fit in the Forgotten Realms. They can work for the church of Malar.
>>47211398
Can't be taken until level 10.
>>47211668
>Magical Child Vigilante with Companion to the Lonely and Rogue with Innocuous Servant caught in the act.png
>>47211668
...is this porn?
What is it with the japs and their 12 year olds in porn?
>>47211701
Well they didn't explicitly say "you need to bone them so hard" but the intent was preddy clear. Just like how geisha were "totally not prostitutes and also for like...companionship and stuff".
And why are we adding all of this sexual stuff to pathfinder again? I thought we were trying to make this LESS of an embarrassing hobby to be a part of?
>>47211668
>>47211727
that new book is full blown lewd, isn't it?
>>47211746
>I thought we were trying to make this LESS of an embarrassing hobby to be a part of?
If there has one thing videogames and comics have taught me, it's that mainstream acceptance is far more of a curse than a blessing.
>>47211727
No. Prisma illya a wrong.
>>47211746
It's not porn, its a non porn spin-off of an adult porn Fantasy visual novel thing
It's complicated.
>>47211746
>Just like how geisha were "totally not prostitutes and also for like...companionship and stuff".
Actually, yes. Geishas are professional courtesans. They were akin to court attendants.
Japan does have prostitutes though, no doubt.
>>47211643
They all died in the 70s.
>>47211746
>And why are we adding all of this sexual stuff to pathfinder again?
>>47211752
>that new book is full blown lewd, isn't it?
>>47211761
>>47211668
>non-consensual
>>47211746
Eh, you could do a geisha more like a kestra'chern from the Mercedes lackey gryphon series, and in fact that's how I'd prefer them. Part therapist, part healer, part councillor, part confidant, part spirit/sexual healer/surrogate.
In demand often as much for their looks and potential sex as much as for their wit, knowledge and ability to make a person feel emotionally fulfilled. They dabble in everything.
>>47211808
Con non-con.
>>47211643
>Being tired of prettyboy elves
>Not being tired of gruff bearded dwarf warriors called Norsename Nounverber
>>47211668
Reminder that Magical Child is one of the best archetypes to take Companion to the Lonely, because it has cha-based spellcasting andtheir familiar means they're never short of a willing partner
>>47211808
>posting madoxhomu
>implying Madoka loves Homu after she ruined everything
>>47211765
>its a non porn spin-off of an adult porn Fantasy visual novel thing
...ok. I mean I liked Ghost in the Shell, but then i tried some others and...
>>47211808
...yea.....
One of the reasons I try to avoid "animay fighting magics" is because while I'm fine with all of the fighting magics, the strange "sexual magics" always seem to come with them.
>>47211821
I mean in theory that is what they were. And if you were to ask a noble or whatever that is what he would say. I just bet that most of the actual "therapy" stuff happened after she had her legs in the air. There is along history of prostitutes for nobles being "totally for the companionship and stuff man".
I mean early ballerina were just basically child prostitutes that they realized needed something to do when they weren't being sexed/raped by rissian kings.
>>47211855
God dammit...
>>47211855
>lewds with their familiar
No.
Mahou Shoujos are all raging heart lesbians in anime for a reason!
>>47211862
>>47211668
>>47211727
>>47211808
>>47211862
>>47211895
>>47211904
What is the source of these?
>>47211895
>Figment familiar who can gain eidolon evolutions like tentacles at will
>Mauler familiar that can grow to medium size
>Decoy familiar that can turn into a copy of their master as Alter Self
How could you ever choose anything else?
>>47211895
>Party all rolled Magical Child Vigilantes
>They all took Companion to the Lonely
>Every evening they go into a massivegayorgy to refresh their charisma bonus rolls
>>47211913
Puella Magi Madoka Magica
Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya
Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha
>>47211865
It's an alternate universe fate setting where the grail wars never happened, instead there's magical girls. Kuro is really the only ultra-lewd one, and that's because it still follows fate setting rules - as a conjured artificial being she needs prana or she'll die, and she gets that through kissing... Though any bodily fluid taken directly from any living being would in theory work (blood, saliva, sweat, semen, tears licked straight off the eyeball).
I also disagree with your assessment of geisha, sure a lot of low class prostitutes may have pretended to the role, but geisha were entertainers, conversationalists and for the very rough life of soldiers - hired confidants.
Magical Child Vigilante are not for lewds!
>>47211727
>Rogue with Innocuous Servant
We're getting a huge influx or Maid and Butler roleplayers instead of rogues aren't we?
>>47211865
Anime is not an a genre, it is a medium. For every GitS there are 40 moeblob cute girls doing cute things anime.
Try FMA:brotherhood or something.
>>47211993
>We're getting a huge influx or Maid and Butler roleplayers instead of rogues aren't we?
I've always wanted to play a butler with some princess to fuss after.
>>47211936
>It's an alternate universe fate setting where the grail wars never happened
what the hell is the grail w...
>instead there's magical girls.
Of course.
>Kuro is really the only ultra-lewd one
ok...
>and that's because it still follows fate setting rules - as a conjured artificial being she needs prana or she'll die,
Literally what?
>and she gets that through kissing... Though any bodily fluid taken directly from any living being would in theory work (blood, saliva, sweat, semen, tears licked straight off the eyeball)
Sweet jesus what the fuck.
I don't think I even want to know more.
>I also disagree with your assessment of geisha, sure a lot of low class prostitutes may have pretended to the role, but geisha were entertainers, conversationalists and for the very rough life of soldiers - hired confidants.
I mean sure. I'm not saying they didn't do that too. I just think that that is what ended up happening after sex, and that the general was not all "i need a young sexy lady in crazy makeup so that I can...talk to her. Yea...talk."
For the record I'm not all against the sexual stuff just because. It was an important part of history. I'm just against getting into that party of history with four other sweaty overweight guys with questionable hygiene.
I think the game would get a net benefit of doing the "we just don't mention sex" like 40k is doing.
>>47211999
That is one I have actually heard was good from multiple people. Might give it a try. I am just worried about the whole "gateway drug" thing happening.
>>47211354
The one on the right is sort of matches the statblock.
>>47211993
>not wanting to roll a badass battlemaid who attends to their liege during the day, protects them from assassins and relieves them of their stress every evening all night long.
>>47212014
Grail War got stopped because Kiri chose Iris and Illya over his dream and completely wiped the Einzberns off the map.
Also, don't worry. Come 3rei it eventually transitions to Shirou taking the spotlight.
>>47211993
Dhampir rogue innocuous servant here. I'll let you neck-romance memaster.
>>47212031
>battle maid
>not battle butler
Strictly inferior.
>>47210910
Oh yes I am. But with all the delays and such due to people missing on short notice and other stuff.
A party of monsterous fucks breaking out of a drow experimental testing facility/prison. It is supposed to be a pirate game, but people would rather start off in nightmare mode rather than explain how their characters new each other beforehand.
We just recently fought the apparent warden of the prison, a crimson countess/vivisectionist who was 4-5 levels above us. The tactics employed during the fight were pretty terrible, but she failed a save vs hold person so it was ok.
I planned on taking her alive and as a trophy from the beginning as soon as the DM mentioned her way back before the campaign started.
Also of note, seeing their leaders or high ranking officers unconscious renders the lower ranking drow in the area between shaken, frightened, or panicked depending on their rank.
Next session will be future captain Mcbadass kuru/kasatha hybrid carrying 140 pounds of drow, wielding 4 short swords, and wearing armor while still being in light load as a dex based character.
>>47211993
Why haven't you had more butler players until now?
>>47212031
>not posting best battle maid
If you're not a PsyArm with Riven Hourglass wearing a french maid uniform, you don't know SHIT about battle maiding
>>47212072
>Implying
>>47212072
You don't even need that much.
A Warlord Desperado maid can still be an effective battle maid.
Help me /pfg/. I'm rolling a Blade Adept Arcanist into Eldritch knight and I don't know if I should VMC battle oracle for the proficiency requirements or dip into fighter at level 7. pic not related
>>47212014
WAIT NO I DO REMEMBER:
I saw like three episodes of this cartoon with this red headed guy and this black haired girl who was a real bitch. Their was magic involved and they summoned these people to fight each other? It was a long time ago.
That was some kind of porn show? It seemed pg-13 at the time complete with the standard "literally useless at life" male main character.How much overlap is there between Japanese cartoon people and pathfinder? I worry it is very high. It would explain so much.
>>47212116
I can't stop laughing at that gun
>>47212116
Narbe > the rest
>>47212072
That's not the best battle maid
That's not even the best TouhouI just posted her
>>47212014
The Grail war is essentially a bunch of mages figured out how to create a ritual to tap I to the root of all Magic. To do so, they summon the spirits of legendary warriors and hero's from ages past to be sacrificed. After some time, the meaning of the ritual was lost, so most people think it's "summon a legendary hero, murder the other mages chosen for the ritual, and get one free wish.
Unfortunately, since Wizards have no sense of right and wrong, they tried to cheat the system and fucked it up, so now the ritual summons not only hero's like Arthur and Cu Chulain, but also crazy people like Medea of Colchis and Guille de Reis.
Pile on a fucked up system of magic, and a writer known for being a butcher when it comes to characters and morals, and you've got a strange mix.
Then, after getting popular, he decided to mess with people by making an AU version based off of Magical Girls
>>47212014
Grail war is a subset of nasuverse (named after its creator kinoko nasu). It's basic premise is all myths and legends are mostly true, vampires, werewolves, magic, extradimensional horrors, heroes and even 'god' exist, but mostly they've been hidden from humanity because muggles are goddamn numerous. It contains the tsukihime VN (dealing with vampires and magic mostly), Kara no kyoukai (extremely highly recommended, deals with magic) and the fate/ franchise which deals with magic and heroes. Because the supernatural is in hiding its relatively indistinct from modern day.
The fate franchise starts off in the 5th grail war where no one really knows what's going on, because the last one was so bloody that almost no one survived (almost summoning cthulu, burning down a city and in general pissing off the church). Grail wars were an event created by 3 magic families to try and create a path to the root (the source of all things - basically unlimited cosmic power), they needed more people so they held out the lure of a wish granting device that they called "the holy grail" (mostly to piss off the church with blasphemy, cause the church and the mages associations hate each other). Because this was supposed to be an 'upper crust' affair, the mages decided to summon long-dead heroes to fight for them by proxy as champions. However the three original families conspiring with each other basically wanted to cheat, keeping the best heroes for themselves through a rigged class system.
Around the first two bouts went unsuccessfully, the third one had some bad foreshadowing, the fourth one was bloody to the point of almost getting the city nuked *or* the church calling in all 7 of its executioners (special Mage/vampire killers).
It's an okay series/setting. Prisma illya is an alternate universe where grail wars never happened but otherwise things are modern day.
>>47212116
Ainz and the Pleiades were the best things about that show.
>>47211124
>'illusions are too weak'
Fuck him. His ass is too week.
>>47212130
The anime adaptations are not porn. The original videogames they are based off of are though.
So if you stick with just the anime, you'll hopefully not get porn. Though personally I'd recommend the prequel Fate/Zero, as the characters in that are actually interesting and you don't have fun teenagers to deal with.
Also, it has Alexander the Great fighting Gilgamesh.
>>47212130
Ah that was UBW, shirou gets gud laterbecause he's a fucking psychic armory. Yes it was originally a 'porn game' (in that it was a VN which contained lewds in order to sell), the show is pretty good but misses out on the internal monologue that show the mc to be fucking bonkers.
>>47212116
Plz no, not the plieades, solution terrifies me.
>>47212220
>Alexander the Great fighting Gilgamesh
You called that a fight?
>>47212277an ant has no quarrel with a boot
>>47212277
Well I can't very well spoil it.
Besides, Alexander had fun, and Gil had enough respect to give him a "GG", which is a lot more for most of the other times he roflstomps people.
>>47212226
Shirou is a vanilla soulknife (who later becomes a Living Legend after learning how to fight like a legendary hero by tapping into his weapon's memories. Him being able to UBW was because he was borrowing Archer's powers through Rin.)
Archer is a Warsoul PsyArm. A lot of good weapons, with the skills to back it up.
Gil is a Telekinetic Armorist. A few legendary +10 weapons, with a poor BAB.
>>47212220
>Fate/Zero characters
>Not just as immature as the F/SN ones
>>47212311
>Shirou is a living legend soulknife who doesn't know how half his class features works.
Fixed
>>47212312
Shit, shirou even knows he's broken and all sorts of fucked up. Kirei literally couldn't figure that our without Gil helping him.
>>47212312
The irony here is the anon calling F/Z childish because he thinks the adults should have been upstanding and functional examples of people, and their integrity should correlate with their success.
'Mature' as a demographic is an inherent buzzword but part of it is recognising that the protagonists are not necessarily good role models or admirable people, and being sympathetic doesn't always lead to reward.
>>47212312
To be fair, Iskander acted like a mature adult but obsessed over a childish pursuit.
It doesn't make him a child. Just a child at heart.
Also, Gilgamesh was the most "correct" out of the three Kings during that dialogue.
Saber is an idiot for trying to carry the entire burden of her people.
Iskander is wrong for forcing his people to carry on his ideals.
Gilgamesh got it right - A King leads. His people follow.
Why is there a whip of spiders spell? What were Paizo actually thinking with it? What classic fantasy archetype does this fit into?
>>47212312
The Grail was corrupted by Angry Man Jew long before the events of F/0
The Grail chooses its candidates for the Grail War. It doesn't choose emotionally stable people nor does it pair them with emotionally stable heroes because those guys tend to have the most boring wish or no wish at all.
It would make sense for it to select the unhinged people with the worst ideologies and pit them against each other for its own entertainment.
>>47212471
The archetype of fun.
>>47212471
Driders
Are there more magic school option than those found in Inner Sea Magic?
I want to do a campaign set in magic school!
>>47211187
You aren't getting it, right. DESU I am not sure how many of them are worth a bard's feats, since you have a lot less than, say, a fighter. I would say rogue, wizard/witch, oracle and cavalier may be interesting. Maybe inquisitor if you give up versatile performance or just don't use it for intimidate/sense motive.
Sorcerer can be quite good, but as a bard you likely have the charisma to go for eldritch heritage and be able to cherry-pick a bit. That does require skill focus, though (which means another feat unless you are a hafu elf or a human with the right class feature). Fighter gets better if you can use feat for advanced weapon/armor training, but bravery is a crap ability as written and you do not have bonus feats to compensate
.>>47211962
Yeah, not with what she is holding in her left hand. That thing looks like a cross between a tentacle and a sex toy. Who ever thought that was a good idea...
Human Ninja 2/Vivisectionist+Beastmorph X.
Can I do it, anons? Can I be theAmazon Alpha?
>>47212527
Edit - The first bit was replying to the question about VMCing as a bard for >>47211185
Android Oracle how do
>>47212586
Go Adeptus Mechanicus on them
>>47212632
Oh shit...
>>47212586
By communing with the Matrix
>>47212586
>>47212632
>>47212644
My god...Stealing this for future reverence to the Omnissiah.
Hey, I'm a rather new GM to pathfinder, and I was wanting to know of I could have some help.
I'm wanting to introduce an obviously cursed weapon as a plot device (like, blatantly obviously cursed), but I'm really not sure how to play it, should someone actually wield it.
Basically, it's got the soul of a white Draco lich trapped inside, and it is evil and sentient, but trapped behind lots of wards and barriers (general plot is that someone dicked around with the wards and now they're slowly fading and gaining in power).
I know I don't want it to just, like, take command of the players, but I want something that would tempt them to wield it, but also have consequences as well.
>>47213256
The classic way intelligent weapons work is that they can talk into the mind of the wielder, and they have their own desires.
If they ever have a really strong desire, the player has to make a will save, and if they fail they get controlled by the weapon for a bit, maybe until they make another save, or the weapon achieves its goals.
>>47213326
>mfw my DM gave me an intelligent item
>mfw its the soul of a paladin
>mfw that same paladin is a fucking pacifist
>mfw the only way I can fight with it is if I convinced the fucking sword I'm battling evil
>>47213256
Just play with player's greed / power obsession?
Put a special ability on it that will be unlock after X kill of Y creature or something?
>>47213359
> Paladin
> Pacifist
what..? why spend year learning martial weapons then? He would better be a freaking Cleric and spam Calm Emotion.
If anyone from DSP is reading this:
Grasp being Ref, while might make for decent math, makes little sense when you think of it.
Huge creatures like dragons tend to have lower reflex saves, so grasping them is somehow super easy compared to the average enemy, which feels wrong.
After reading through Psychic...
Is it the Paizo answer to Shadowrun Decking? Mindscape is pretty much hotsim...
>>47213618
I sort of agree, for a different reason.
I approve of the new math, but it just feels wrong to have the enemy roll a save instead of the player roll a check.
Rolling to grasp makes it feel like an 'active' ability, that you can invest in, while rolling reflex to avoid grasp makes it feel more passive, like 'your grasp performance is always the same, and it's the enemy's skill that determines how well they escape'.
>>47213378
That's kinda the idea I want to go for, but I don't know how to scale it.
Has anyone got the link to the /pfg/ kineticist?
>>47213657
depend on how long your campaign is and how many creature per encounter? You should probably also limit it to creature with equal HD or higher (so your PC doesn't go slaughtering commoner).
Alternatively, you could have the sword wanting to kill individual creature (maybe someone else who possessed its shard of power or those who related to the ward?) and give the sword a new power each time they accomplish that?
These guys were introduced in Pathfinder's Occult Bestiary, and they're devils who make deals with people who want to forget painful memories. Maybe not the scariest in concept, but one of these was manipulating a dwarven police chief into continually remembering how he watched his father beat his mother to death in a drunken rage and making a new deal to forgot every time, until he'd worked him into a corner and allowed a crime syndicate he didn't even know existed to operate under his nose. The DM's genuinely horrifying performance as the mentally collapsing police chief, the horror that his soul was so far damned by his deals that even the paladin couldn't help him, and the fact that the devil had made us forget several encounters with him was what made it work.
>>47214015
That's a good idea, actually.
I'm still trying to get the party together, but there will probably be 4-5 players, either levels 3 or 5, I haven't decided yet.
There are some options I can use, and it will probably depend on the party comp. The original idea was for it to be a sword, but if we don't have a fighter or something, it could be anything
I want to make a character that uses throwing weapons.
In order to hit with the range weapon I think the range attack bonus will be BAB + DEX modifier + Size modifier + range penalty
How do I figure out what I must roll for hitting a target?
Let's say I have 6 BAB, +3 Dex mod, normal size and 10ft so no range penalty.
If I roll an d20 and get 8 + my bonus which is 9, I get a total of 17. Does this total have to be higher than my enemies AC in order to do damage?
>>47214471
Equal to or higher than.This is the same for any attack roll, melee or ranged (though different numbers will apply, such as melee attack rolls being based on STR instead of DEX)
>>47211436
>/pfg/ only posts the lewd or cute entries
Are you implying wysps aren't kawaii as fuck?
>>47211746
>I thought we were trying to make this LESS of an embarrassing hobby to be a part of?
We learned that normalfags ruin everything they touch, so its best to keep them at bay.
Has anyone ever used were-beasts in their campaign besides as just random enemies/encounters?
I have an idea I wanna throw at my party, but I wanna get some ideas on what others have done.
A quick request to any /pfg/ anyone who have a pdf of Shackles Hut from Reign of Winter, could they extract the pages / screenshot and post all the ones with Greta detail, plus her statblock?
>>47211436
I'ma play these like Tron bits.
>"Wysp, can you see them?" ting
>"Wysp, are there five of them like we heard?" ting
>"Damn, outnumbered.. okay Wysp, head to Melani, I'll... I'll stay and keep watch." tangtangtangtang
>"Dammit Wysp... I'm not worth it." tang
>"Dammit... together, then." tingtingting "I know."
>>47214943
Waifuable werebeasts best werebeasts.
>>47211855
>>47211920
>Magical Child
>not Necromancy Psychometrist
>Soulbound Puppet (Su): As a full-round action, you can expend 1 point of mental focus to create a soulbound puppet from a bone, doll, or skull... If the implement is a doll, the doll comes to life. Treat this as a familiar, using your occultist level as your wizard level to determine its powers and abilities... No matter the form, this creature is a construct with an alignment matching your own. You can have no more than one soulbound puppet active at any given time. The soulbound puppet remains animated for 10 minutes per occultist level you possess.
Literally bring stuffed animals to life as any kind of familiar you want, with any archetype you want! And as constructs, they'll never tire! And they last for hours at a time!
What happens when you try to Dominate/Mind Control someone already under the effects of Dominate Person/Mindcontrol?
>>47214314
Isn't that like continuously poisoning someone and then offering to cure it?
>>47215116
>Waifuable
>Not Husbando
Anon please.
>>47215237
Only if you know you're being poisoned.
>>47210910
I have no session, sadly. I really need to get to work on my own campaign, but I haven't felt up to it.
>>47214976
What if, instead of giving racial bonuses to ability scores, races would instead have minimum and maximum ability scores? So for instance, an elf would have to have at least 12 dex and 10 int or 10 dex and 12 int and at most 16 con at the character creation(the exact numbers may need some tinkering). Obviously racial traits would have to be adjusted as well.
>>47214976
>>47215305
I gotchu, senpai.
>>47215202
Opposed charisma checks to see who can control them.
>>47211457
The Aristocrats is a joke that originated internally among comedy troupes. It's a joke for people who have heard every joke, and the whole joke is that it takes the structure of a proper joke and fucks it up in a very deliberate way. It's in the 'anti-joke' category of humor, where the expectations that are set up and then defied are the structure of standard comedy.
>>47215305
>In human form, Greta is tall, with shoulder length silver hair, fair skin, and bright blue eyes - and by human standards she is very attractive
>>47215314
Sounds like 2e methodology. Wasn't personally a fan of it.
>>47210810
Our first experience was the psychic warrior finding out he could not use his rocket launcher call with strikes and throwing a bloody fit.
Our first experience was also, however, the rogue entirely retraining as well into that archetype, and discovering he no longer sucked big black salty balls.
Since then battles are a bit more dynasty-warriors, with our "high level" adventurers facing off against small armies rather than advancing the plot only through dragons or trumpet-god encounters.
>>47212197
Actually with some GMs, illusions....
>Because there's many of them, one of the goblins of course rolled a 20 and realized what was going on, warning the others and causing the illusion to be seen through
>The king obviously has items to protect him from that, or he couldn't possibly hope to rule his country (that one actually makes sense, mind)
>Dragons are immune
>Wyverns are immune
>Minotaurs are immune
>Undead are immune
>Paladins are immune
>The gelatinous cube falls for it but continues approaching at the same speed since that's all it can do haha
>The Frost Giants saw through it instantly because they would never fail to recognize a true fire giant
>The guard rolled a 20, sorry man what can you do
>The wizard's high intelligence and wisdom render him immune to low level illusions
... I learned to just fucking roll a DFA and blast with all the things at once.
>>47211436
D'aawwwwwwww
>>47211746
>what is it with the japs and their 12 year olds in porn?
Uh, if you look at the majority of their adult women you'll understand.
Sure, to us, those little girls look like they're twelve.
To the japanese men watching this, anyone with that much T&A? That's obviously milfs right there.
>>47215670
>bothering with illusions
>not just mindfucking anything lacking enchantment immunity into servitude
What are you, some kind ofmoral, upright person?
>>47211436
How do I get one? TELL ME NOW!
>>47211778
prostitutes were a much lower 'class'. if you had the money, you didn't want to "lower" yourself to this.
Geishas were "technically not prostitutes". But that's a workaround because of how important it was to keep face. But keep in mind, these people didn't even want to touch money with their own hands when it could be avoided!
See, you're paying them for their music, poetry and other such companionship. That you proceed to then seduce them is TOTALLY a different thing. You seduced a geisha, you didn't hire a prostitute, therefore you are more awesome in the eyes of... uh... mostly just you, except every individual "yous" are thinking the same thing and not daring to ever point a damn thing out about the others.
>>47215781
Yes. Moral and upright. That's exactly it. Yes.
>>47215809
>paper fucking walls
>neighbors fucking next door
>see no evil, hear no evil, masturbate furiously for totally no reason
>pretend you slept like a rock
That entire culture was fucked up.
>>47215926
Name one culture that isn't fucked if you examine it deeply enough.
>>47215961
Yeast.
>>47215972
>implying yeast isn't literally fucking everything constantly
>>47215961
The Cherokee were okay, minus the need to conquer thier enemies to expand their Confederacy
And the slavery, but nearly every culture has to get over that humo at some point.
>>47216160
>Cherokee
Balls, I meant Iroquois. Screw the Cherokee
That's what I get for posting as soon as I wake up.
>>47215856
Well, it's your loss. I'll be over here ridding villages of rampaging chromatics by turning them intoblushing, half-dragon meidos.
>>47215802
You have to play a Kineticist.
>>47216309
AVANT GUARD IT IS!
>>47216309
Can I do it as a gambler?
Where do I get one.
>>47210910
Meh, the campaign I'm currently in seems to have jumped the shark. Every time the GM promises fun and exciting encounters it's really just the same old singular big bad monster attacks the party and we team up on it.
The other one I'm still on the fence about could be interesting but I just found out there are gonna be like 7 players. 3 of them being SJWs with triggers or whatever the fuck that bullshit is.
>>47215802
> A 7th-level spellcaster who has the Improved Familiar feat can gain a wysp as a familiar
It's in the text anon...
>>47216289
>Needing magic to stop a rampaging dragon
>>47216374
So how do you get one as a kineticist.
Here's my priestess of Lamashtu
>>47216424
Route 1:
Iron Will
Familiar Bond
Improved Familiar Bond
Improved Familiar
Route 2:
Skill Focus: Knowledge
Eldritch Heritage Arcane
Improved Familiar
>>47216443
7/10, not horribly mutated enough, though the milfy bod for breeding monsters is a plus
>>47213618
Yeah but this lets me suplex trains and grab giant monsters easily, and that's amazing.
>>47216405
>not having a foolproof plan in case doing it without the magic fails
I mean, it's not like a game has everlasted long enough for me to try either method.
>>47216405
Right?
I mean, I may use magic to smack them around a bit if they're not going to stop trying to eat me but after that it's pure diplomacy.
I'm buddies with literally every dragon I've met on this character and that's like 8 dragons (may not actually be buddies with the mate of the gold dragon I rescued from transdimensional space jail but that's mostly because I keep hitting on her husband in front of her but due to the afformentioned rescue she's pretty chill about it. Also I might be trying to bang said draco-MILF. And their daughter... Really, if not for the fact that I reunited them after centuries apart I don't think we'd be buddies)
>>47216608
How many of them are metallic? Half of metallic dragons have fuckhueg hardons for humanity.
Once you're able to make friends with blacks, reds and whites, come back to us and talk about how dragons are great and that Avistan should import them by the dozen.
>share your Party's first experience with PoW.
Combat went from Pathfinder to turn-based Devil May Cry and everyone's been in love with it ever since
>Party Warder uses Extended Defense for the first time
>Negates literally ~15 ranged attacks that were meant to kill giant NPC the party was escorting
>mfw as he describes how his character shieldbashes all the arrows away
>>47216635
So the family is metallic gold (so 3)
There's a pair of wyverns who learned not to fuck with my shit and stick by me because we're sorta a pack now
There's a forest drake who was already friends with a little girl when we met him. We are now all buddies.
There's some sort of crazy kalidescope drake that the BBEG was mindfucking into doing his bidding. Sorted that shit out and he helped us wreck the BBEG. We are now buddies
Then there's my daughter, a red dragon wyrmling who's not actually related to me but she's going to be a fantastic monarch one day (albeit maybe a little spoiled)
So yeah, I make buddies with dragons. Though I guess that's only like 7, not 8.
>>47216690
>we don't play this game for blatant power fantasies guys. Srsly.
Looking for opinions/critiques of my homebrewed VMC rules for Ertw's Beguiler:
http://pastebin.com/NX5zZJEi
>>47216757
What the fuck are you smoking?
Of course we do. Why else would you play a roleplaying game?
Do you seriously play 7 INT potato farmers that run from fights while screaming for mercy?
You play fucking heroes doing radical heroic shit, you stupid bitch.
So /pfg/, I have a bit of a moral dilemma. I'm not sure if I want my NE witch to give Cook People food to the rest of the party. Obviously they wouldn't know where it came from, but feeding people goblin cookies without their knowledge either IC or OOC is kind of a dick move
>>47216463
>>47216424
Sad fact:
Kineticists only get half the bonus.
>>47216778
I try to play cahracters with strengths AND weaknesses. Characters that have the power to do things and the weakness to fail at them sometimes.Its why I play wizards. Nothing more satisfying that a characters personality flaws snatching defeat from complete victory.
>>47216836
Eh...It depends on the party. It sounds like 100% great roleplaying but that can always get someone in a tizzy.
>>47216836
Simple solution:
If the character would consider the morality of it for even a moment, don't do it.
If it's something the character would do no problem, do it.
This works for literally any IC dilemma of this sort.
>>47216877
>Wizard
>Weaknesses
>Wizard
>Not a blatant power fantasy
>>47216877
But any character can have personality flaws.
>>47216836
If you don't have any supersrs Lawful types who'll lop your head off for even suggesting such a thing, you could always make *subtle* references to your recipe. That way, if the rest of the party wants to take a no-goblin diet approach, they can tell you with no hard feelings.Though that seems an awful waste...I mean, with the price of meat what it is, when you get it, if you get it...
>>47216773
Homebrew for homebrew? This is some next level shit!
>>47216877
>WIZARDS HAVE WEAKNESSES GUYS
>I'M DEFINITELY NOT BAD AT PLANNING CONTINGENCIES IN CASE SOMETHING FUCKS UP
>A MARTIAL DOING SOME AMAZING PHYSICAL FEAT MEANS HE HAS NO WEAKNESSES
4/10 got me to respond
>>47216877
Is this wizard OP thing a meme now? I mean they are powerfull, but mostly late game and anyone who has played one early game should realize how fragile and temporary their power is.
They were heavily nerfed from 3.5 at least.
I know we just got though twenty years of "na wizard fine learn to roleplay you rollplayer!" but that doesn't mean we need to be wrong in the other direction.
>>47216907
>>47216913
>>47216923
>>47216934
I never know if a whole lot of image macros mean that I'm retarded or everyone else is. Why do people post these?
>>47216944
>Is this wizard OP thing a meme now?
>now
>>47216944
Wait, that wasn't bait?
>It wasn't bait
>>47216944
>Is this wizard OP thing a meme now?
What is it like posting on 4chan for the first time?
>>47216773
The biggest issue I see here is that the 7th level power is useless unless you have spellcasting, otherwise it looks reasonably good.
>>47216863
>not playing Elemental Kineticists
I bet your waifu's a filthy halfbreed sylph or some shit too, you fucking casual.
>>47216944
>Weak early game
That's so "Wizard who runs into melee range to use Shocking Grasp at level 7" of you.
I bet you also use cantrips in combat too
>>47216981
No I use save or sucks that basically buy time for the rest of my team to kill things.
Have you ever tried to actually KILL things as a wizard? Its not exactly easy. Plus I am always two or manybe three melee attacks away from death no matter what I do, unless I spend my turns self buffing in which case why am I even there?
>>47216944
Wizard is THE most powerful class in the whole game as soon as you hit level 3 and on
Just because you pick shit spells and play it so bad that the party's Bard ends up being a better caster doesn't change that, dipshit
>>47217010
Senpai, you're misspelling arcanist.
>>47216773
It looks like it could turn a wizard into a better beguiler than a beguiler. It presents a very interesting option for a magus, though.
>>47217026
>hits level 3
>Arcanist at level 3
>still not having second level spells
>>47217003
>>47216944
The 'wizard op' thing is a bit of a meme, but not really. For a long time the over powered campaign changing abilities of a wizard were ignored for a couple of reasons, mainly that strong people bullied the designers/players in high school, and that INT should be the god stat, etc...
Imagine if someone got raped by an uncle every day for the last fifteen years, and now you are talking bout how sometimes uncle-daughter incest could be about love? You aren't wrong, but they are TRGGERED and
they can't handle it.
>>47217010
The wizard is no better caster than the bard until level 5 or 6. The problems is, and always has been high level spells. A wizard goes from "kinda bad and requires a lot of support" to "actually really good and powerfull" to "oh god my campaign where did the plot go?" in less than six levels.
>>47211123
Yeah, I've swapped it out. Still not sure on the rest of my build, especially the drawbacks I have or most of the feats I have.
>>47216944
You're the retarded one.
Wizards are still the great T1 powerhouse they were in 3.5, and in truth very little has changed much about them. Pathfinder is unbalanced and skewed towards Caster Supremacy straight from Core and inherented a good amount of problems because "muh legacy Monte Cooke stuff" and because Paizo, the people who used to publish the horribly made Dragon Magazine back in the 3.5 days, can't balance for shit.
The only real difference is that Rogue, Monk, and Fighter got some minir buffs, but nowhere near enough to raise them out of Tier 5, especially considering how High-Power PF is.
Sorry bud, Paizo has rused you something hard. And the company has only been getting steadily worse
>>47216443
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>>47216944
To be be straight with you, the period in which wizards need to be babied due to being too weak is also the period in which every other class is boring as fuck and not very fun to play. /pfg/'s "rusty dagger shanktown" ends somewhere around levels 4-6, maybe 3 if you want to be generous. This is coincidentally the point at which the wizard actually starts to ramp up past other casters.
>>47217003
>have you ever tried to actually KILL things as a wizard?
>what is Summon Monster, then AoE save-or-suck next turn
>But I need a party to buy time for me, otherwise they'll focus me and I'll die!
>implying your party is good for anything /besides/ being a distraction and buying you time
"Wizards have no weakness!" is only a stupid meme between levels 1-7, after that they should have enough time and resources to have a contingency for anything short of your GM pulling shit out of nowhere. Which, coincidentally, he /COULD/ do in a way that made sense, but it would also probably fuck over the rest of the party more than it would fuck the wizard.
>>47217087
Do you remember when glitterdust was "one save, or blinded for minutes?"
Remember when solid fog was "lets just remove half of the enemies from the fight for six rounds with no save"?
Early game wizards are half what they were, and they still aren't SHIT or anything. its just the late game spells were basically unchanged.
Further:
>rogue getting buffs
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>>47217115
>>what is Summon Monster, then AoE save-or-suck next turn
Summoned monster? you mean to spend a full turn summoning something that was relevant to the fight three levels ago? Pls tell me more how a dire rat will help me kill an orc.
>>47217118
I'm counting Rogue Talents as a Buff, since its a lot better than the raw deal they got in 3.5. Granted most aren't too great, but they help somewhat in the versatility department
And note i said it still wasn't enough to move them a Tier
Then again your buildposter, a faggot whose proven time and time again that you don't understand Tiers in the slightest, so this might be essentially pointless to talk about
>>47217173
Very few things can move after attacking.
>>47217087
>The only real difference is that Rogue, Monk, and Fighter got some minir buffs, but nowhere near enough to raise them out of Tier 5, especially considering how High-Power PF is.
Rogue used to be T3, but paizo removed basically all of their niche protection.
>>47217204
>rogue talents
>literally better spent to obtain feats than the other abilities
>UMD no longer is a rogue only ability, so they are no longer the "totally not a wizard" wizard that they were.
>all of the reliable ways to get sneak attack nerfed into the ground.
>flask rouge nerfed into the fourth layer of the abyss.
>still on about the tiers argument when everyone basically agrees that fighter and kinestist are now tier 4 classes, and I haven't brought up tiers in literally months.
So not only are you bad at the game, but you can't get over it. Holy shit dude.
>>47217205
...Ether I am missing something huge, or moving and attacking is something that basically everything can do at level 0. Did you miss speak?
He also isn't wrong about summon monster. When you are pulling out summoned monsters you are making some really bad choices. If you can't get it to a standard action casting time its a terribly inefficient spell.
>>47217230
They used to be fun. I remember a player with a "spell list" two pages long from all of the 3/50 wands and low level scrolls he picked up from enemies. That used to be basically a rogue-only thing.
>>47217173
>summoning a dire rat
>not an eagle
>not summoning MULTIPLE eagles>not having augmented and improved summoning
I see you dumped intelligence, in addition to charisma.
I always thought Clerics and Druids were more busted than Wizards.
>>47217284
Hey, he's perfectly in his rights to misbuild. He can always not know what he's doing, simple enough to fix.
>>47217283
For reference, the 4th layer of the abyss may not sound very far, but the 4th layer is actually the Grand Abyss, which is literally just an enormous, bottomless hole that goes down all further layers.
Think the giant sinkhole city in Episode 3 in Utapau times a million.
>>47217283
Unchained rogue helps, and UMD was never rogue specific. Even in core, I'm pretty sure Bard got it too, with more incentive to have a good Cha and less expectation to take the 30 burglar skills.
>>47217284
What's Improved Summoning? Do you mean Superior Summoning?
>>47216443
Tell us about your campaign and this priestess, because I'm very doubtful this character would be approved in a typical campaign.
>>47217284
>>not having augmented and improved summoning
Still doesn't change the fact that what you summoned would have been awesome 2-3 levels ago, but is still pretty much irrelevant,.
>>47216443
Most favoured priestesses of Lamashtu have their bellies torn and scarred. If they were born into the cult, they're horribly disfigured.
Not knocking it, though. Is she just fresh? A young'un?
>>47217300
Clerics and druids can do a bit of everything thanks to having decent melee abilities on top of casting, but ultimately wizards have the better spell-list and are just better at casting thanks to their class features and bonus feats.
>>47217300
It's not about the class, it's about the spell list.
If Sorc had the same amount of access to the spells as Wizard, it'd be the best class in the game.
>>47217115
>"Wizards have no weakness!" is only a stupid meme between levels 1-7, after that they should have enough time and resources to have a contingency for anything short of your GM pulling shit out of nowhere.
I had recently played a fully optimized 8th-level divination (foresight) wizard for several sessions. I had optimized this character to the best of my ability, employing battlefield control and noncombat utility spells and avoiding blasting spells. The only things barred from me were Sacred Geometry, Blood Money, and Mystic Past Life.
My spellbook contained *98* spells, not counting cantrips. (The GM had even ruled that the cost to pay wizards for permission to scribe from their books was waived.) I had judiciously employed Fast Study. I had Intelligence 26.
Perhaps it was because the GM was highly insistent on overly long adventuring days, but I constantly felt as though my spells were never enough to last me throughout the day. Every utility spell I Fast Studied would mean one less spell slot that could be used later in the day in combat, and even infamous spells like Scrying and Detect Thoughts were full of hidden stipulations that undercut their effectiveness (how trivial it is to notice a scrying sensor, successful saves alerting people to a hostile force, etc.).
It also did not help that the GM was strongly combat-focused, thereby giving plenty of spotlight to those combat-optimized characters who could rush in and delete enemies with far more reliability than any battlefield control spell.
I had absolutely no doubts at all that I was the single most all-around capable character in the party, and that I was a narrative-dictating tier 1 character. However, that was heavily undermined by the long adventuring days and the focus on combat, which I imagine would have given a strong edge to, say, Path of War characters for attaining the most spotlight.
>>47217361
>Not knocking it, though. Is she just fresh? A young'un?
I figure Lamashtu is quite busy using the young ones to churn out monstrosities, so considering she's not heavy with some sort of half-goat abomination I doubt she's a fresh convert.He probably just googled for an extremely voluptuous young woman and used that for art. She's certainly got the right amount of creepy and turbo-fertile!
>>47215305
>>47215318
>>47215370
Reminder that it explicitly states "by human standards" because she's comparatively puny and of weak constitution when propped-against other Winter Wolves.
>>47217346
Well, an Augmented Summoned Dire Rat would trounce an Orc, which is what you asked.
With superior summoning, you can get multiple of them depending on your level. But the real benefit is flexibility and tying down the enemy for multiple turns while only using one of your's.
>>47217404
Sounds like your GM knew exactly what he was doing by not kneecapping you but still managing to keep you in check.
>>47217421
>But the real benefit is flexibility and tying down the enemy for multiple turns while only using one of your's.
I'm not sure what you are fighting, but anything you bring with summoned monster is at best a body blocker. They die so fast.
>>47217409
Wait, since when do Winter Wolves have shapechange?
Couldanyonesecretly be a Winter Wolf?
>>47217404
And that's called good DMing, anon. Did he keep track on material components?
>>47217448
Don't worry, it's only those in The Howlings that have it.
>>47217448
Haven't played the AP myself but I always thought Winter Wolves were just Werewolves that could keep that shit in check or something akin to that.
>>47217361
>>47217406
>I will NEVER get to play my changeling child spiritualist whose phantom is her abusive devoted-to-Lamashtu elder sister
