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>FAQs
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>40k 7th edition quick reference sheet(s)
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>Forgeworld Book index
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>White Dwarves
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/tx4hcy4u487pv/WD
>Novels (Working link as of 02/02/2016)
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First for 45 point d thirsters
>>47102740
>no shit edition
>>47102799
Both weapons on a burning chariot are garbage if you jink, you should be buffing its invuln save if it's likely to take any fire
Man, 7th Edition is the best thing to happen to Dark Angels. With new FAQ, my Dark Talons will be one-shotting enemy aircraft if dice don't fail me.
FMC can't Vector Strike if they Jink, but can the Heldrake?
>>47102721
It's going to be 5++, trust me.
>>47102853
But dice rarely dont fail
>>47102857
Did it jink?
Yes: then no, it can't
No: then yes, it can.
>>47102911
Why not? The Heldrake isn't a FMC and nothing else seems to prevent it from doing so.
>>47102853
I haven't seen the new rules, can you elaborate ? I can always kick myself for fielding one.
>>47102740
Where can I kind the IG formation that gives cover to Infantry Squads near Russes?
I thought it was in the Cadia one, but I was wrong.
I've think I've found a way to fix dark eldar.
Give them a detachment which just requires fast attack and gives their fast attack OpSec.
fliers, scourges, and jetbikes. Maybe some heavy support choices.
>>47103015
It is the start collexting box.
What's the shit about Jink being nerfed?
>>47102740
Still the wrong image.
>>47102975
>Passengers inside jinking transports were nerfed.
Which is what the burning chariot exploited to not die.
>>47103015
It's called the Armoured Shield, if you need rules for it I have the pamphlet in the box somewhere
Searchable FAQ Draft PDF.
>>47103033
If a vehicle jinks all it's passengers fire snapshots.
>>47103033
passengers inside jinking transports count as jinking too (so oddly they get a coversave if their transport is destroyed) and must snap shot
>>47103049
burnign chariot still has an invuln save. and chariot riders got buffed.
Overall the burning chariot is better after the faq.
>>47103049
really? I thought the burning chariot exploited cursed earth not to die.
chariots never had passengers anyway. The rider and chariot is one model
>>47103032
Ah. I don't have the box.
>>47103063
If you could post it, that would be awesome.
>>47103070
Ouch.
I was thinking about picking up DEldar. I might put them on the back burner for a while.
>>47103089
>able to get cursed earth off reliably
What's your secret?
>>47103114
9 units generating daemonology. Don't think I've ever had a game where I didn't get cursed earth
>>47103114
Tzeentch daemons, fateweaver, decurion bonuses, lord of unreality, grimoire, the usual suspects y'know
>>47103114
spam demonology horrors. If not cursed earth, sub for summoning. if cursed earth, deploy near chariot.
watch tournament match go to time because each of your psykic phases takes half an hour to resolve.
>>47103111
There are other ways to play dark eldar other than venom spam. Jetbike and MC spam work well too.
>>47103091
Not sure if anyone put these in the MEGA
>>47103182
but if the list isn't unbound you've got 2 worthless troops, and heavy limits on you jetbike and MC spaming.
hence my suggestion >>47103028
>>47103236
Thanks m8.
I didn't see them in the MEGA, but I might just be blind.
>>47103244
You always need some shitters objective holding and all MCs are only worth bringing in formations anyway so it's not a big deal really.
>>47103182
I really like the look of Raider spam though.
Are the MC any good? They seemed sort of unimpressive.
>>47103009
Pieplate attacks can be used against aircraft now if the unit also has skyfire.
>>47102997
Just die.
>>47103236
what the hell is "1 infantry squad"?
>>47103273
but those shitters are shit at objective holding, and shit at all else.
Give there FA options obsec, and now they can get and hold objectives and actually do things.
>>47103306
but they can't hit.
>>47103306
they can target it, but they still can't hit it.
>>47103336
Read the codex. Its your basic troop unit.
>>47103366
No, it isnt. Guard's troop choices are veteran squads or infantry platoons. "infantry squad" ain't a thing.
>>47103351
>>47103359
Nope, they can hit it now.
>>47103366
In his defense, it's one part of a Platoon, which is the basic troop unit.
>>47103398
troop unit =/= troop choice you big, dumb, retard.
>>47103276
They are unimpressive until you put them in formations. Corpsethief Claw and Dark Artisan are the best in my opinion.
Corpsethief is 5 Talos as a single unit, gives you scout which is sweet for a slow unit. It's a tough deathstar which is relatively shooty on its way to close combat.
Dark Artisan is a Talon, Cronos and haemonculus in a single unit which run along with T7 and a 3+ FNP rerolling 1s if you put the haemonculus infront. If you can get it to outflank it's glorious, but even without it can tank just about anything.
>>47103336
Its a gaurdsmen squad from an infantry platoon, just without the rest of the platoon. Remember that they have different wargear restrictions from veterans.
>>47103407
did that get updated from draft 1. because draft 1 said no.
>>47103407
>>47103469
I think the confusion is that one question says "can skyfire blasts target fliers - yes" and another is "can fliers get hit by blasts - no"
so you can target fliers with skyfire blasts all you want, but they wont be hit
>>47103398
You aren't very smart are you?
>>47103495
The FAQ only specifies swooping flying monstrous creatures as immune to being hit by blasts.
>>47103495
My interpretation is that the second question refers to blast without skyfire, IE just regular blasts in general
And this is why its a first draft, I hope they know about this by now
>>47103518
>>47103521
Not gonna go either way (personally we house ruled the FMC "hard to hit" rule to be indentical to fliers, but here is the copy/paste of the FAQ
Q: Do Blast weapons hit Swooping Flying Monstrous Creatures?
A: No.
Q: Can a Swooping Flying Monstrous Creature or Zooming Flyer be targeted by a Blast or Template weapon with the Skyfire special rule?
A: Yes.
no conditionals in there. Hard and fast RAW it looks like you can target (with skyfire) but not hit
>>47103067
>Q: How does a Gargantuan Creature move through difficult terrain? A previous official FAQ clarified
that a Super-heavy Walker rolls 2D6 and doubles the highest result, but said nothing about
Gargantuan Creatures.
>A: Roll 3D6 (due to the Move Through Cover special rule) and double the highest result.
Thank god, nice to see Hierodules getting some leeway
What does it feel like inside a mucolid spore?
>>47103634
This should not become a thing. Please stop
>>47103634
Vore feticist love it.
>>47103661
search your feelings, you know you want it
>>47103608
FMC anyways. The first question says nothing about zooming fliers
>>47103676
Cramped, just like in a rhino.We ace ventura now
>>47103608
My interpretation was that it's written to imply that skyfire can target and hit, but non-skyfire can only target and hope to scatter onto something else.
First draft, etc.
>>47103698
i'm with this guy
>>47103608
You can target with templates and blasts, but the blasts don't hit.
Therefore the templates hit.
>>47103698
Yeah, thats the most likely explanation, especially considring RAW skyfire blasts can hit FMCs
>>47103634
Sensation is...
...
Sporadic.
Hey /tg/! I just finished with blood angels and wondered if i should buy some nids as im trying to venture out into xeno territory.
>>47103785
You're a glutton for punishment, I see.
>>47103634
Only Deathleaper's Fangirl's boyfriend knows the answer to that
>>47103797
So deldar then?
>>47103785
Is buying the army that will literally squat your original army a form of cuckoldry?
So what are Skitarii supposed to do now without access to pods? Take rhinos and start on the table? Die in droves while slogging through Eldar guns? Stay on the shelf?
>>47103398
Then the commander said "What's an Infantry squad?"
>>47103927
Take their free wargear, plentiful good quality weapons and imperial knight and run roughshod over everything but Eldar?
>>47103927
stay in the back as support for your vehicles. be played in more fun casual environments.
Be in war covenant where you don't need the drop pods.
>>47103927
Ally in cheap inquisitors and get both Psykers and cheap chimeras
>>47103927
stop trying to out-faggot the WAAC crew and play with regular people?
>>47103927
Wait for our third codex to drop. Until then just start your manz behind rhinos. They can get in and drive away turn 1.
>Immolator no longer available from store
>Can't ally in drop pods
How am I supposed to play SoB, again..?
>>47104057
Who?
>>47103997
It's a hypothetical, I don't even play :^)
>>47104057
SM rhinos with heavy flamer turrets counts as.
>>47104057
Who?
>>47104078
Daughters of Conflict
Wait for the rework thats coming soon (trademarkl)
>>47104078
sons of bitches.
>>47104114
You mean the preorder of the completed FAQ book?
>>47104078
Sons of Baal
Can I actually put a coverted looted ork baneblade in the table in an apocalypse match?
Or is something seen as a dick move?
>>47104209
In the GW Apoc book, they give you the go ahead to loot other players datasheets and heavy vehicles.
In fact, one of their Super Heavies is a looted Bane Blade (not the same stat wise however).
>>47104078
>>47104100
[TYRANIDS DETECTED]
>>47104209
The apocalypse book actually have a rule for that, any big units in the book can be converted for other armies and it gives fluff examples for a few. GW still likes nice conversions and stuff when you're dropping around £100 on each model.
>>47104078
Siblings of Baking
>>47104255
>>47104241
Cool
Then I might start working on it, always loved the Baneblade model
>>47103927
Waaco's BTFO by this update.
keep it coming, GW.
>>47104255
Especially with that contest on the website where if you buy up to $85 worth and write them a little letter and you can win the army of your dreams
>>47104318
Eldar and Tau WAACs got buffed, non space marine imperials got nerfed.
>>47104318
Enjoy getting beat even harder by Eldar and Tau greaser man :^)
>>47103608
Neither of these say anything about blasts not being able to hit flyers, only FMC.
>>47104356
>>47104380
how did tau get buffed?
>>47104057
>How am I supposed to play SoB, again..?
You don't, you jus wait for the inevitable.
>>47103661
>she doesn't want to get swallowed by a tyranid
Tau WAAC player detected
The further back you go, the hotter Daemonettes get.
So why are SoB getting squated? They seem popular enough
>>47104356
Whatever. Stormsturge overwatch doesn't matter and Tau in general aren't a big deal.
Eldar will always stomp everyone's shit so buffing them is almost pointless. but -every- Skitarii faggot pulled that drop-pod nonsense. Now BTFO for good
>>47104380
>Shitari main detected
>>47104057
20-sister mobs with attached priests and Exorcist support, DUH. You'll find enough Immolators for your Dominions on ebay.
>>47104405
Other armies that were high tier got nerfed, whereas Tau escaped unscathed, so from a base-line they improved.
Tau also benefit the most from the change allowing Skyfire blast weapons to target Flyers and Swooping FMC. GW's contradictory rules then make it questionable whether FMC can then be wounded by them but if they clarify that it's a win for Tau since they have by far the most access to Skyfire Blast.
>>47103465
Why would you outflank a Dark Artisan when you can get a webway portal on them and have no scatter deepstrike? Webway portal is practically mandatory for that formation.
>>47104356
eldar didn't get that much of a buff. The d thing is kinda stupid, but taking d hits to the waveserpent was not a major problem that eldar were facing.
Non-waac eldar actually took some hits as hawks lost a lot of value, and dragons lost some too.
>>47104446
>all those skitareeee players with their now defunct drop pods.
makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside
>>47104437
Well, not all of us like daemonettes with big meaty claws.
>>47104521
Good, I need cheap drop pods and this is a siren song for my ears.
>>47104405
Everyone else except Crons, Eldar, Marines got weaker
>>47104446
>Shitari main
people who treat the tabletop like a vidyageam need to die
>>47104580
Cron fliers took a huge hit recently, now there is no good Cron AA
>>47104446
All these (You)s, what a beautiful sight
>>47104580
Daemons got nothing but buffs
Why does everyone forget daemons are a great codex?
I'm hearing Tau and Eldar got buffed in this FAQ. Can someone tell me how because all I'm seeing is nerfs
>>47104637
cause I feel like most people don't like how they play or don't like the models.
>>47104637
because the most powerful list is about the worst possible things to play against.
Having all your army blown away, or not being able to shoot a unit down are fairly painless compaired to spending 20 minutes every round watching your opponent go through their summoning.
>>47104669
tau didn't get buffed. It's just that DE and Orks got nerfed. tau actually can't kill walkers with their god damn haywire firewarriors now.
>>47104669
eldar: serpent shields can reduce a d hit to a one hp glance.
It's a buff, but it's also a thing that very rarely comes up.
tau: depending on how the faq is clarified, their skyfire blasts can take down fliers.
>>47104719
>tau actually can't kill walkers with their god damn haywire firewarriors now.
As it should be.
>Does the ability to re-roll ones allow you to re-roll the scatter dice?
>No
Should have answered:
>Pick up your scatter dice. You do own a copy of the game right? Ok, just checking. Now, show me the "1" on the Scatter Dice. I won't hold my breath. Can't find it? Exactly, there is no "1" on the Scatter Dice YOU DENSE MOTHERFUCKER!
Why haven't you developed a story for your armies yet?
>>47104739
What Skyfire blasts do Tau have that are better than just using normal guns?
>>47104669
Long story short: skyfire blasts and templates can now hit fliers. D weapons can be downgraded to glances by any mechanics (serpent shield), and gargantuan creatures are confirmed for shooting all guns, but they have to announce all shots at once.
Between all the changes and the new skies of death it'll be hard to sort out instantaneously who got buffs and nerfs, there are few obvious benefits and a handful of obvious nerfs though. Daemons for instance, got FMCs landing in gliding and possession summoning any variant of bloodthirster.
>>47104704
I can't disagree that there's anything worse than getting steamrolled by daemons and I play daemons. Army-wide 3++s is definitely beyond frustrating to play against.
>>47104752
It's still on the sprues
>>47104752
cause I play Grey Knights. There's no story that can be developed.
>>47104775
Why not shell out the dough for a fresh new army?
>>47104579
>mfw I have other armies to use my drop pods with
>mfw not selling them to some salty poorfag on the cheap just because skitarii can't use them.
>>47104791
I'm a poor. And I only have around 1200 points of my GK done.
>>47104752
I'm not sure where else to go with them aside from general background stuff
>>47104761
well, if the blast can also hit other things at the same time, riptide s8 ap2 blast blows up most fliers and also blows up a lot of troops at the same time.
>>47104739
>I have a great idea let's give tau the ability to shoot fliers with......blasts
>great! Now let's see....dark eldars, what about them?
>no too powerful this move and shoot while embarking jinking vehicles, let's change jink to also make the embarked troops to shoot snapshots, that'll prevent bullshit shenanigans.
>great everything is good now.
I fucking hate you GW.
>>47104791
Because if he does he'll play Grey Scatbikes so there won't really be a difference
>>47104752
Because the bloodied already have story
>>47104807
Wait....you actually play blood angels? Unironically?
>>47104752
I have. Admittedly I mainly used the existing fluff for the Il-Kaithe craftworld, because my bud who got me into the game likes chaos, and I'd planed to use deldar kits as part of it already.
But I've been developing out the aspect hosts and characters.
Corsair players: Anyone have any rad ideas for a custom Jetbike Princess? I recently got a Reaver off of eBay but the pilot is glued to the bike, so I'm gonna have to do some chopping.
On that note, does ANYONE play Corsairs? I like them because they go fast and aren't BDSM freaks.
>>47104837
while the consequences for deldar sucks, they are also clearly motivated by rules clarification, and all the rulings make sense.
Deldar are fucked by their codex, the faq seems made in good faith.
making an faq and submitting the drafts community review is actually a massively postive move for GW
>>47104887
my buddy plays them, hes currently converting a prince on jetbike with yriel, the great weapon wood elf noble and some other assorted stuff, and is gonna have him basically surfing the jetbike
Well, it seems the new rules faq made Smashfucker all but useless...
I don't know if I'm glad or sad
>>47104867
>no other space marine army can use drop pods.
Are you legit retarded?
So for a freakshow, the cast of players in a raider with two archons is a pretty standard layout.
However, new FAQ ruins this.
What are the alternatives for bringing in the shadowseer to a good position without webway portalled raiders?
>>47104931
all but useless? Smashfucker's basically untouched.
>>47104963
>However, new FAQ ruins this.
How?
>>47104964
Supposedly he's limited to only one Relic now.
>>47104986
Can't start other armies in a BB dedicated transport I thought I read?
Since you can't put things into fleshtearers drop pods either I figured this would count the same?
>>47104990
Smashfucker only ever needed only the Gorgon chains and with the IH detachment is the only thing he needs from the relic section.
>>47104964
This bit here
>>47104752
But I have anon.
They were an Alpha Legion detachment that went renegade after the Warmaster's death. The commander took his soldiers and conquered his home planet (feudal world)
>pic related is his homecoming
>>47105008
>BB dedicated transport
What if you put the raiders in a FA slot?
>>47104931
i truly do not understand you people
smashfucker needs only the gorgons chain and a command squad and libby to be an absolute monster
>>47105008
'Q: Can units that are Battle Brothers embark in each other’s Transport vehicles during deployment?
A: No.'
Relevant question above.
As far as I'm aware, this would restrict putting them in a raider to deep strike? Or does it count as putting them in the raider from reserves after the deployment, allowing you to do it still?
>>47105044
My mistake, meant the FA raiders, not DT.
>>47105055
God 100% this.
Did anyone ever take two relics on him when all he needs is G.chain?
G chain
Command squad
Power fist and lightening claw
Bike
A.armor
Done
>>47105032
I always found the logic of repeating the relic buying process weird anyway.
>>47105099
How so?
>>47105117
Just didn't sit right with me. The whole "a model may swap 1 for 1" thing sounds pretty clear cut.
Burn them all in the name of the Emperor!
CCS
3 flamers
Heavy flamer
Chimera
2 heavy flamers
Infantry platoon:
PCS
3 flamers
Heavy flamer
Chimera
2 heavy flamers
Infantry squad
Infantry squad
Flamer
Special weapons squad
3 flamers
Special weapons squad
3 flamers
Special weapons squad
3 flamers
Infantry platoon:
PCS
3 flamers
Heavy flamer
Chimera
2 heavy flamers
Infantry squad
Flamer
Infantry squad
Flamer
Special weapons squad
3 flamers
Special weapons squad
3 flamers
Special weapons squad
3 flamers
Hellhound
Heavy flamer
30 flamers, 10 heavy flamers, 1 inferno cannon. 1000 points.
Hey /tg/ I got a question about imperial knights. I'm building an imperial knights army (thinking 5 knights) and I was wondering if it's possible to use forge world titans for 40k instead of horus heresy? Would the rules be compatible and I just need an okay from my opponent or will it just straight up not work?
>>47105099
>>47105117
because he like everyone else thought the wording before was obvious, and can't see how people thought they could take 2 or more relics.
of course, even with the new faq, there have been assholes arguing this doesn't stop them from taking mulitple relics.
And, no, the tau have always specifically said they got 2. so they got 2, and under the new ruling, they can get 2 because the codex specifically says 2.
>>47105144
Mate, prepare for /wh40kg/ to scream at ye for taking 5 knights.
>>47105144
knights aren't titans.
>>47105134
See i didnt see that when i started my army i only saw that only 1 version of. The relic can be used in an army not that only one character can take only one relic
>>47104405
Models that shoot more weapons than normal in the shooting phase now shoot that many time when made to make a shooting attack such as over-watch or interceptor.
So battlesuits can overwatch with both their weapons, as can riptides.
>>47105141
Would this effectively make the enemy shit themselves
>>47105141
Some men just want to see the world burn.
This is an army of these men.
Does the expansion alter the statline of any of the weapons or is everything beside the old rules the same just reprinted ?
I want to buy a knight but I am not sure that 450 points for a walker that will probably get alpha' dis a good idea
>>47105159
>of course, even with the new faq, there have been assholes arguing this doesn't stop them from taking mulitple relics
No one's arguing this. You are literally senile and looking for boogeymen.
>>47105184
no, because the moment any sort of armour gets brought into the equation they can just stay in their MEHTUL BAWKSES and laugh at you
>>47105141
Jokes on you, I'm bringing nothing but tanks
>>47105181
which everyone already played as.
sure there was that one fucker, who was wrong, and everyone told him so. Then the faq came out and confirmed that he was wrong, but according to him it was just a coin toss that decided that, rather than wording of the rules that people had figured out and GW was mearly confirming.
>>47105184
>Highest Strength is 6
>Lowest AP is 4
...no, no it wouldn't.
>>47104752
I have multiple times but I keep debating which one I want to pick since each would have a drastically different paint scheme.
>>47105211
you clearly weren't not on thread yesterday. It was a thing. Probably a troll, but a thing.
>>47105226
Can the Hellhound upgrade it's Inferno Cannon to AP 2?
And I'm pretty sure it's base AP 3.
>>47105161
Why's that? I'm thought 5 would be a good number, if not I plan on allying them with some one but haven't figured out who
>>47105144
Nope. The size is too different. You could however check out that one 40k formation that mixed Titans with Knights. One Warhound and two Knights I think.
>>47104752
I'm busy enough painting the fuckers
>>47105141
citiesofdeatharmylist.jpg
>>47105244
Considering the recent arguments with that guy that was adamant that you could only ever shoot one weapon per model during overwatch I'm taking just about everything as retardation before trolling now.
I'm thinking about making an IG army how's this idea:
Infantry Platoon behind a ADL bubble wrapping Basilisks and that tanks with the FUCKHUGE DEATHMISSILE, while Russes, Hellhound and Vet russ up?
>>47105281
They're different sizes? Wtf
>>47105254
No.
S6, ap4, torrent, flamer, template
or
S1, ap3, poison, 2+, template
>>47105272
superheavy spam is thing that some assholes do, becaue a fair number of lists can't do anything about it.
If you're letting your opponent know first, then there isn't any problem. A fight against knights can be fun if you're allowed to prepare for it. Sprining it on a normal list is shitty.
>>47105254
> Expecting the Guard to have nice things
>>47104057
You just wait for the mold to be re-cut or buy some exorcists if you're filthy rich and can't wait.
>>47105141
But the real question is how can we get MORE Flamers on it!?
>>47105312
They have good things but not the best things.
They play like tau but balanced.
>>47105209
seriously I get knights are popular but it feels like taking a knight at less than 2000 points is really crippling because of how much they cost to field, and also they will just get penned and blown up on turn 1 or 2 anyway
>>47105303
knights aren't titans.
Titan's are much bigger and even the smallest is significantly more powerful and expensive.
I think knights are way cooler than titans tbqh
>>47105254
No the Hellhound is S6 AP4.
Your thinking of the Inferno cannons that Spess Mehreens and equivalent have on tanks.
Hellhounds can be swapped for Bane Wolves that have a Poison 2+ AP3 flamer but it loses out on Torrent.
The other thing you might also be thinking of is the Malcador Inferus which can up its rapecannon to AP2.
>>47105254
You're thinking of the bane wolf, which has an ap3 non-torrent template, or the devil dog, which has an ap1 melta pieplate.
>>47104057
chinaman repressor tops, with regular rhinos. You can support your LGS and still get somethign that is OOP easy and cheap (it's like £5.60 for a conversion kit).
Plus repressors are so much better than immos
>>47105173
Go back to dakka, Alpharius
>>47105311
I wasn't planning on being all "surprise mutha fucka"
>>47105244
No I was. People were explaining to retards why space marine players thought they could take 2, not justifying why they did it. They were decidedly neutral and proved through codex differences why the wording was confusing. It's just a fact that lots of tournaments and list builders let it happen.
>>47105211
Not him but I've seen several Space Wolf players shouting their defiance on B&C and the 40k fb page.
Say I want to get into the game and play necron. Whic codexes and things do I >buy
If I want to learn the enemy's tactics, do I have to acquire their codexes too?
>>47105328
I'm kinda glad about that.
It's weird too, they were the army that coined the term "leafblower list" to begin with but nowadays they're good but not ridiculous, at least base Codex-wise.
>>47105141
I want to make this army. It sounds too fun.
>>47105184
Tyranids?
>>47105326
This. How can we get more flamers on this list?
>>47105386
Check the link in the OP for PDFs of any codex you want to look over
>>47105372
That's because they play an assault army in a short edition, the poor souls
>>47104752
I already have.
They're a Chapter of Space Marines that are effectively chivalrous knights in space that have locked down their system due to their belief that the Emperor will be disappointed in them if they can't handle the seemingly endless Tyranid threat in their system alone.
>>47105386
you need the core rulebook and the codexes for the armies you play (Necrons)
The core rule book comes in two flavors: full size and pocked edition.
The full size includes a lot of narrative if you like that stuff, and is also easier to read if your eyesight isn't so good. The pocket size comes with the Dark Vengeance box set, but you can buy it off ebay for 20 bucks or so.
Don't buy codexes for other armies unless you want to - you will learn more about tactics from playing games or reading the wiki than you will from the book anyway.
>>47105431
*shooty, fuck
Now that tankbustas are kill, what's the orks' go-to anti tank?
>>47105222
Could probably make an altered version of this list with a few Leman Russes with Heavy Flamer everything. That way you can deal with vehicles and still pack a ton of flamers.
>>47105334
I thought GW called them "Knight Titans"?
>>47105371
I pretty clearily remember the retards trying to explain why the 'unclear' wording still existed, so the codex still said they could take 2 relics, because the faq only said unless the codex specified otherwise. and therefore the wording they were using before stiill let them do it.
Again, was likely a troll, but it happened. There was also a later time when there was a more reasonable discussion.
How does this imply at all that only one may be taken per character?
>>47105431
And to be fair I let my roommate load his wolf Lord up with relics because the wording was quite ambiguous.Unlike the clear unambiguous "you get one" from my Ork codex that came out at the same time.
>>47105457
>Knight Titan isn't the same as Titan
>Tactical Dreadnaught Armor isn't the same as a Dreadnaught
Hay I was looking to get into gaurdsmen as my next army. So I just wanted to ask some questions.
#1: in the current meta how are they? Decent? Blows ass? Or OP?
#2: I'm not a WAAC person but what are the best units that have or what is the best way to play them? Artillery gun line? Parking lot? Infantry chimera swarm?
#3: what's a good regiment paint scheme that's not DKOK that has black armor and dark camo?
![1d0d6e18381dd408353b7f121162fd9b[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/GLAnDAS.jpg "1d0d6e18381dd408353b7f121162fd9b[1]")
>>47105303
Here's a sample comparison.
>>47105450
Probably the Mek Gunz, Mega Nobz, Tank Bustas (Rokkits are still good) and anything else that can wreck a tank.
>>47105404
Add this bad motherfucker right here.
>>47105450
Meganobz with killsaws
>>47105446
Thanks anon
Been interested in 40k for a long time and I'm burning out on vidya, so I figure it's time I take the steps to the 41st millienia
>>47105450
MANz? I guess? Maybe Mek Guns or that new flyer if they can manage it.
>>47105386
>>47105446
you also cannot by the rulebook by itself outside of ebay.
Because the pocket edtion was released as part of army pack, and the full size comes with two other books that you have to pay for even though you probably don't want them.
>>47105476
I believe they even point out that the Knight is a smaller form of Titan.
So to be clear, I can't use forge world IK becuase they are a different fucking size? I'm 100% sure I could make that feasible on a table
>>47105450
What happened to tank bustas?
>>47105450
What happened to tankbustas? I haven't read the whole thing yet.
>>47104752
because no one gives a fuck about your own personalized 'your dudes.' Keeping their lore down to a couple sentences to explain them to your friends and opponents is all you need. Going beyond that is just being autistic. Instead of writing out a boring as fuck backstory no one cares about, learn to paint your models better, or work on a cool conversion. People are impressed by models and armies, not your shitty fanfiction tier background lore.
>>47105486
>#1: in the current meta how are they? Decent? Blows ass? Or OP?
OK
>
#2: I'm not a WAAC person but what are the best units that have or what is the best way to play them? Artillery gun line? Parking lot? Infantry chimera swarm?
Sweeping shotgun vets, rough riders, bullgryn
>#3: what's a good regiment paint scheme that's not DKOK that has black armor and dark camo?
31st Hedgehogs of Shadow
>>47105515
>>47105516
One melta bomb per unit can be used in assault.
>>47105431
>Space Wolves
>Poor souls
No, I wouldn't really say that.
They get plenty of love from the devs and sculptors as is.
Not to mention how Thundercav are typically the core of any decent Imperial Super Friends list.
>>47105488
I only see 1 imperial knight there, the other Imperium stuff are titans
>>47105509
the DV box also comes with templates which is nice
>>47105486
1. They've always been right in the middle, iirc.
2. Pretty sure it's Wyverns.
3. This one's really up to you, look up WWII camo schemes for some inspiration.
>>47105518
>Writing stuff for yourself is autistic
Shit, we should go back and tell every literary figure that they're autistic for writing anything.
Would table top people allow 3D printed figs once they become more common? I don't play, but it seems a way to not be jewed
>>47105469
all I remember was faggots who knew nothing about other codices' wording, complaining about why there was confusion at all.
>>47105457
if they did it was a goof.
Titans are god-engines, part of the titan legions.
Knights are refered to as armors, or just machines, and are part of knight households.
They are quite distinct in the fluff, and rules.
>>47105549
Sounds good how are the wyverns? Is that the tank with the motors?
>>47105556
Do you realize how expensive that is going to be for the common person?
It won't prevent being "jewed".
>>47105572
Most tanks have motors
>>47105574
3D printers are only going to get cheaper and better.
>>47105553
Maybe if you were writing something original, but let's not pretend stories or lore existing in a fictional world owned by Games Workshop is ever going beyond your own mind.
>>47105584
Oh right I mean the one with 4 battles on it that has an open top like the AA gun
>>47105591
No, no they aren't.
The one I work with on my campus is "top of the line" and it's still a piece of shit for most projects.
>>47105591
I have my doubts on that.
>>47105470
That wasn't the implication, it was for other codices that have above the relics list
>A model may replace one weapon with one of the following
People thought that process was repeatable.
>>47105572
The Wyverns are the 45 point Ignores Cover rape-machine.
>>47105604
>Maybe if you were writing something original, but let's not pretend stories or lore existing in a fictional world owned by Games Workshop is ever going beyond your own mind.
>anon literally ask if people are writing backstories for their armies
>YOU AUTIST NOBODY WANT YOUR FANFIC
>>47105620
Ah right thanks.
>>47105611
Also ment to say barrels
>>47105566
They may have amended that lore to include Knights as well.
>>47105614
A top of the line ssd was 16gb about 5-10 years ago.
>>47105545
Yes, it shows that a Knight and a Titan are not the same size.
>>47105614
>Technology doesn't become better and more common for normal people you guys
>>47105329
am I the only one who is scared about fielding a knight?
also what loadouts are even good? having only a stubber by default is kind of crap and the other guns are super expensive...
>>47105032
>>47104990
he only needed one relic. the chains of the gorgon. he had another relic but the betrayer's bane was just icing on the cake and not needed.
>>47105646
They're not comparable at all.
>>47105652
Literally not what I said you dolt.
If you actually think 3d printers will be widespread and capable of making replicas of GW models within a decade, you're either a troll or you've never worked with a 3d printer.
>>47105617
So now I have to suffer because of other codex wordings?
>>47105604
it will be shared with your friends, which you may not realize are thing other people have, and have a bit of fun with it.
A lot of friends share stories created in pre-existing setting. And a good many writers get their start writing in existing setting their own version of existing stories.
It used to be a standard thing among writers, but then got a bad name in the early ages of the internet, because it removed the filter of community and editing before broad publication.
>>47105141
Someone make a 1500 and 1850 point version of this list. Please.
I want to see just how much Xenos, Mutants, Heretics, and other assorted enemies of Man these brave Guardsmen can douse in holy promethium.
>>47105648
That's not what I was asking. I want to know if I can use a forge world imperial knight in 40k. I don't care about titans
>>47105698
Should add in Promethium Relay pipes. Easy way to give your flamers Torrent for cheap.
How important are unit formations in this game? Is it just Zerg blob mode or are there advantages to keeping an even spacing between units and shit like that
>>47105617
But it doesnt say that phrase on my relics either it just says only one of each relic may be taken per army
>>47105670
You mean like what orks have been doing before that faq? Great way to complain either way though.
>>47105704
WHy wouldnt you be able to?
Why the hell would forgeworld sell anything if you couldnt use it?
>>47105704
Most Forgeworld Knights have existing rules for use in 40k. They're also usually taller, so counting them as normal Knights is tricky.
>>47105639
no, the household vs titan legion thing was repeated in the most recent knight release, and the most recent things refering to titans.
Look at any of the new 30k books.
and ibf: FW is a GW subsidiary, FW fluff is part of 40k fluff. every 30k book has repeated this. this is not a thing that changed between 30k and 40k.
>>47105715
There are template and blast weapons which are area effects which will hit more if you have units clumped together.
>>47105715
Depends on the opposing army. If they have a lot of blast weapons, it's important, if they don't it isn't.
>>47105715
You want to try and keep infantry spread out a bit to minimize the damage from templates and blasts.
Are all armies typically the same for pricing getting started? Or are some more than others a significant amount?
>>47105719
what does it say on the characters who can take relics?
>>47103033
stealth and shrouded dont stack with jjink anymore.
>>47105729
>>47105735
Alright thanks. The reason I ask is becuase the codex didn't have the forgeworld models in the descripti9n and the forgeworld models have rules to go with them but they only mention HH
>>47105713
also fight a tzeentch daemon list that uses lots of burning chariots, flamers of tzeentch and exalted flamers
Is the Autocannon Predator as much of a dead end as it looks? At least the las variant has reliably placed AP.
![3de278441e1db071a500b9de91301b48[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/O0HzjqP.jpg "3de278441e1db071a500b9de91301b48[1]")
>>47105704
You said Titans, different thing. Also they're bigger than regular Knights too.
But anyway read their rules - FW has them free for download and they state how they work in 40k. IIRC you can use them in an Imperial Knight army but some can be fielded in limited quantity.
>>47105758
Holy shit how am i so autistic not to see this
>>47105713
I don't see where that is in the IG codex.
>>47105783
?
>>47105818
>orkfags
Bet you have a 10/10 codex sitting right there without the ability to comprehend it properly.
>>47105762
Sweet.
>>47105834
Promethium Relay pipes are a fortification from stronghold assault. Basically 50 points for a few pieces of terrain that give nearby units torrent on any flamers. Works for everything from infantry to tanks.
>>47105737
>subsidiary
Its not, its the same company, different brand for the same products. A subsidiary means one company owns the other but are two different companies, FW and Games Workshop are both part of the same company, Citadel.
>>47105835
I play BA
If I want to get back into the hobby, and have my old models, but no brushes or paint or tools, what's the cheapest way to get everything I need?
>>47105868
Holy shit maybe it's just the codex that's cursed, no one can read it right. This guy has been using it for his blood angels!
>>47105796
With lascannon sponsons it's alright. 2S9, 2S7. Whether or not it's worth it over the Annihilator depends entirely on how many light vehicles you deal with.
>>47105835
The OP screenshot is from the ghaz supplement which doesn't have any caveats on selections unlike the actual ork codex.
>>47105860
Ah, I see. Makes sense.
For that list, what tank would be best for fighting anything with armor, assuming it always has Hull and Sponson Flamers?
how many multi-meltas does it take to kill a knight in one turn?
>>47105652
They've made literally no advancements since the first neckbeards wanted to 3D print 40k models. It's clearly not advancing as quickly as, say, PC technology or robotics.
Also, how long has the printing press and electronic printers been out? How good are the books you print for yourself at home compared to a professional printing house product?
>>47105141
Green Tide BTFO
>>47105796
It can be okay if you want a cheap tank to take out lighter vehicles and infantry. Heavy bolters are also a rather affordable addition, which gives it a respectable 8 AP 4 shots for not too many points.
Not something I'd want to run many of though
>>47105753
Yes, some armies are very expensive. Sisters of Battle, Imperial Guard, basically any armies with expensive, old, or numerous models, or with lots of tanks or big monsters.
The cheapest armies are generally small, infantry based armies, like Space Marines, Grey Knights, etc. Imperial Knights is also cheap because a single Knight takes so many points and is "cheaper" than buying that many points of other models. For example, 1 Knight is like $100 or so and 400 points. 400 points of tanks and infantry would cost far more than $100.
>>47105927
2 minimum.
>>47105927
2 if you're lucky. Check out Mathammer if you're not.
>>47105141
You have to go deeper. 3000 points.
>>47105927
60?
>>47104356
Eldar buffed? What kind of retard was relying on D strength as an answer to wave serpents? Even with the old rules it was way more economical to use massed S6+ shooting.
Fire Dragons and Hawks not being able to glance vehicles to death is more of a nerf than that 'buff'.
>>47105911
Not sure on the different variants, since I don't play guard, but I'd imagine you would want something that could also take out infantry decently so you could fire it and the flamers at the same thing, or something g with ordnance so you just have to choose between using the cannon or using flamers.
>>47105141
>>47105971
Someone make a version of this list in all formats.
Restrictions:
>Must take Flamer and/or Heavy Flamer when possible.
>>47105985
The real question is what kind of retard was playing cheesedar and taking Wave Serpents? Their three strongest units all don't need/can't take WS.
>>47105894
Okt before i get laughed at more i noticed that gallians staff isnt on the relic of baal list that say it can only replace one weapon with so can i take it with another eelic or does this faq clarify that
>>47105796
It is cheap and has AV13 front.
It's not bad, but alone it's not going to do much and only has a single AC for a weapon. LC sponsons make it better like someone said but also nearly double the cost.
>>47105997
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDqbbf6ewk
Incredibly related.
>>47105942
Heavy bolters seems a fine option, but I'd rather have one 9-2 than two 7-4 in almost any situation.
Were it an assault cannon it'd be pretty neat, but an Autocannon just seems questionable.
>>47106045
Indeed.
>>47105997
Should probably add a couple Leman Russes at least, that way you could slay armor and still burn things.
>>47104775
Whhhhahaat? Are we playing the same game?
Just ignore the named dudes. Your librarian, your captain, or whatever, what successes did he have to be in the position he is in? Your dudes, they are the IoM anti deamon team, why do they fight dark eldar? How do they feel about that? What did they do after your dudes won the battle against the Arch heretic Cardinal Vassleste and the Big Chunk of Smelly he summoned. What was it about his devoted followers that ran away, when they saw the foulest pestilence from the warp? Not so devoted when found out just what they prayed towards. Well your dudes still killed them, merciless, not only for the sins they did but also to give them a chance for redemption, as some really died with a prayer of forgiveness to the emperor on their lips.
It is days like this, where you know you are not a mere tool a machine to fight the demon, but a human fighting for humans.
Oh wait Your dudes don't have stories, right. They just go to battlefield a, kill stuuf, go to battlefield b, kill other stuff......
>>47106072
>Were it an assault cannon it'd be pretty neat, but an Autocannon just seems questionable.
Go get a Baal Predator then.
AC isn't that bad. It was the staple gun of IG to spam and was good at knocking Necron Scythes and Heldrakes out of the air, as well as stripping Rhinos and Wave Serpents. It's just that Knights, WK, Tau, and Escalation have made the game focus on LC, melta, grav, and D weapons instead.
REMOVE CHAOS remove chaos
List rate please?
Hive fleet detachment
3 flyrants with brainworms and egrubs
3 mucolid spores
Hive crone
Malanthrope
Skyblight
Another flyrant the same
Hive crone
2 harpies
3 broods of gargoyles
>>47104752
Every time I kitbash a custom HQ he looks cool at first, but then I get sick of them. They're decent models but not nearly as cool or unique as ones FW or GW put out.
I think I might have to start sculpting rather than just mixing existing parts to get a good look. Or maybe it's just my OCD of having to have "official configurations". Almost bought STI rims to go on my Subaru just because they were official and matched, even though they were heavier and more expensive than Kosei or Enkei.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/689814.page
Is this legit
Starts a bit down the page
So I just finished a 1550 point game against a BA player as a SM player.
I fielded:
Captain (115)
-Boltgun
-Power sword
-Artificer Armor
Tactical Squad (1) (185)
-Full strength
-Meltagun
-Combi-plasma
-Missile Launcher
Tactical Squad (2) (190)
-Full strength
-Plasma gun
-Stormbolter
-Heavy bolter
Tactical Squad (3) (210)
-Full strength
-Plasma gun
-Plasma pistol
-Power sword
Sternguard Squad (140)
-Power sword
Terminator Squad (200)
Devestator Squad (245)
-Power fist
-Plasma cannon
-Lascannon (x3)
Dreadnaut (105)
Stock (CCW + stormbolter, multimelta)
Total: 1390 (Doing the math now, I realize that I could have actually fielded EVERYTHING I own instead of just most of it because a 5 man Assault Squad doesn't cost THAT much, but too late now)
I attached the Captain to the Sternguard squad
Warlord Trait: That one on the Personal Traits in the main rulebook that means you get victory points for killing characters in challenges (I wanted It Will Not Die) My Warlord was my Captain
BA player fielded: (I didn't ask him for point values or upgrades, stupidly
Death Company Furioso Dreadnaut
-2 Lightning claws
Sanguinor
Sanguinor Guard (5 models)
-Attached Priest
-Banner
-Spoopy Masks (this comes in later)
Death Company squad
-Attached Chaplain
Assault Terminators, whatever the BA equivalent is
-Attached Priest
-Attached character who has like three lightning claws + underslung chainfist on each hand or something, I don't remember his name
Baal Predator
-Twinlinked assault cannons
-Heavy bolters x2
He ran up against the limit and he attached Sanguinor to the guard and had them in reserve.
Warlord Traits: I forget, but I don't think it came up) His Warlord was the dude attached to the Termies
We played a modified game we called king of the hill where the objective was to capture and hold a lego bridge for three turns, winning the game.
Side objectives:
Slay the Warlord
Linebreaker
First Blood
After action report to follow.
>>47105849
>>47105762
false. The FAQ specifically says that the rules stack.
What got nerfed was passangers in jinking transports now fire snap shots.
>>47106224
Nah.
>>47105936
compaired the earliest profession printers, my printed pages look damn good. Admittedly not as good as the book binders, but home book binding is never a thing.
Compared to current printing houes, not that good, but you know, they also had technological advances since the 1500s.
That said, people expecting 3d printers to replace factory made models are pretty out of their gord. At most, it's going to alter the way very small print models are produced and priced. If high end printers (ie out of private price range) can produce models high quality, then there might not be an industrial market for making molds for super small scale runs. Which might affect prices and production runs.
>>47106236
Was it just a chaplian or was it lemartis
>>47106343
>but home book binding is never a thing.
Just like home army printing will never be a thing.
>>47105514
You can use the free rules on the forgeworld site to run any forgeworld knight as part a household or oathsworn detachment. Cant put them in the formations. Good hunting fellow Baron.
>>47106392
Why are you repeating what he said?
>>47106236
Deployement: We each deploy behind Lego building and folded index cards cover. Any building with a door or drawbridge requires a turn and base contact to open, any unit which opens/closes a door cannot shoot that turn.
His Baal Predator is on one side of the table behind a building his Death Company and Termies behind another building.
My three Tac squads start behind the folded index cards on one side of the table with the Devestators. Captain, Sterguard, and Termies start behind the walls of the fortress on my side of the table.
Turn 1: BA player sits behind cover, makes reserve roll, fails.
I move forward into cover, advance the Termies towards the fortress drawbridge to lower it. Dreadnaut moves forward.
Turn 2: BA still behind cover, fails reserve roll
I move my Devs up to cover to where they can see the Death Company through building windows. Terminators reach and open the drawbridge, Sternguard with Captain advance behind. Dreadnaut continues to move forward.
Turn 3: BA still in cover, reserve roll continues to fail
I fire on the units I can see with two lascannons and the plasma cannon. Plasma scatters short, lascannons hit, but only one kill. Terminators exit fortress and move towards bridge, Stern and Captain follow. Terminator continues to advance, now headed towards the bridge.
Turn 4: BA opens his door and leaves cover FINALLY. Baal Predator moves all out to put itself between me and his exiting forces. Reserve roll happens automatically, he deep strikes his damn Sanguinor Guard behind my lines and assaults my Devestators. Snapshot kills two Guards, but Spoopy Masks mean they die to a man.
My Terminators open our side of the bridge and the Terminator charges up it. Sternguard and Cap move in range to shoot Sanguinor Guard. All Tactical Squads and Stern + Cap shoot at Sanguinor.
One hit, Sanguinor himself tanks it.
Dreadnaut makes a shot against Furioso Dreadnaut. Critical hit, vehicle explodes.
>>47106373
I never thought to ask
>>47105450
MANZ is really the only option now. Which is pretty bad because they're a suicide unit against Knights but are pricier than Tankbustas.
>>47106451
I thought death masks didn't work against marines cause you negate fear tests
>>47106451
Turn 5: Sanguinor Guard charge the closest Tac squad (2), slaughter them handily. Assault Termies move into cover, Death Company rushes the bridge and assaults my Dreadnaut. One glancing hit.
I shoot at the Guard with my Termies and Sternguard, the Priest and one Guard dies. Remaining Tacs turn their attention to the tank and Assault Termies. Grand total: One dead Terminator.
Turn 6: Sanguinor Guard assault my Sternguard and Captain. Sanguinor himself makes a challenge to the Captain and he accepts. They enter single combat while Spoopy Masks mean my Sternguard always hit at WS 1, three of them die leaving the Sergeant and one Veteran.
On the bridge, Dreadnaut continues to hold his own, kills two Death Company.
I continue to shoot at the tank with one Tac Squad while the squad with the missile launcher attacks the Termies. The Frag missile scatters over to the Death Company mob on the bridge, but makes no kills, sadly.
Terminators assault Sanguinor Guard, attempting to drown them in bodies. They manage to kill one Guard, but remaining Spoopy Mask continues to stand. It kills the remaining Sternguard.
Captain and Sanguinor continue to be deadlocked, Artificer armor meaning I can save against his hits but I can't get through his damn Invulnerable.
Turn 7: Predator kills 2 units from Tac Squad 1, none of them special weapon carriers. Assaults continue, Dreadnaut kills one Death Company mob (considering naming him Benkei at this point), no change in Terminator/Guard assault.
Captain fails two armor saves and takes two wounds, but is still in the fight.
(cont)
(I forgot to mention that my Combi-plas sergeant used it agains the Guard to no effect back on turn 4)
>>47106604
We didn't do a fear test, he just said it makes my WS be 1 in assault while attacking them. If that's wrong, then I coulda wrapped them up MUCH faster and not gotten tabled so hard.
>>47106451
If he is playing sanguinor he is going really easy on you he's super overcosted and his abilities aren't that great. Especially putting him in a Sangguard. Sangguard Generally eat tac marines for breakfast solo. I don't know what Sanguinor adds to them and this game seem too small for all his snowflake rules to make. That said it's good to see BA putting in work.
>>47106672
>We didn't do a fear test, he just said it makes my WS be 1 in assault while attacking them. If that's wrong, then I coulda wrapped them up MUCH faster and not gotten tabled so hard.
Nope that's bullshit. No way a 1pt per model upgrade does that. He was wrong or lying. I apologize on behalf of BA players
>>47106451
Did he take it as an elite choice or an HQ
>>47106672
Yeah the masks are a 1ppm fear test. Maybe he mistook "causes fear" to mean "automatically causes fear" or something. Either way that is a massive change to the game.
How often do you guys sell stuff before finishing it?
>>47106672
never use frag anything against Marines
>>47106731
except frag cannons
New Thread when? This one's older than the emprah.
>>47106712
I to aplogize for your douchey friend
>>47106777
When it's needed. Still got two pages to run through.
Hey people, what would be in the Crimson Fist 1st Company since they are 128 ?
Thanks.
>>47106828
anything they got, there's not many crimson fists left. Vets, Terminators, Chapter Master. It's not spelled out anywhere.
>>47103785
Yes. Nids are the most fun army to play.
>>47104437
pass butter, plz.
>>47106900
Not against this list.
>>47105141
>>47106672
Turn 7, my turn:
Tac squad (3) moves to come into base contact with bridge since Elites can't contest.
Assaults continue, Spoopy Mask kills two Terminators, Captain continues to stalemate, Dreadnaut (Benkei) continues to endure.
Turn 8: Baal Predator moves to the other side of the bridge to start getting shots in on my tac squad on the bridge. Kills the two models in base contact.
Tac squad 1 gets a lucky frag on the Priest attached to the Assault Termies and kills a Termie along with it. Tac Squad (3) consolidates and again moves to touch bridge. Plasma gun soldier is in rapid fire range of tank, but rolls a 1 on a to-hit roll. He dead.
Continued no change in Assault, except Dread takes another hit. Now down to 1 HP but continues to endure (His name is totally Benkei now)
Turn 9: Predator kills more all but 3 of Tac Squad (3), they pass their Ld test though.
No change in assault, Benkei endures, captain Endures, Spoopy Mask endures.... sadly.
My turn, the remnants of Tac Squad (3) (with heavy bolter) move out of the Predator's LOS because fuck that fucking bridge.
Terminators finally get a lucky hit in and kill Spoopy Mask. Captain endures, Benkei endures.
Turn 10: Baal Predator moves across difficult terrain dividing table (thus bridge), kills two units from Tac Squad (1).
Assault continues, Benkei endures, Sanguinor gets a lucky hit in and my Captain fails an armor save and dies. Sanguinor consolidates towards the bridge.
>>47106680
Apparently just being within 6'' of Sanguinor gives them ANOTHER attack. Ugh.
>>47106718
I think it was his HQ, because Sanguinor didn't start on the table (I think that's how it works)
>>47106720
Well shit. We were both rusty, so I'll give him the pass this time.
>>47106731
Probably shouldn't, but it did score some kills. That said, I either need heavier firepower, or something that can defend my heavy firepower if I play him again.
You get a free ticket for a brand spanking new army, it's codex and paint.
Which army do you choose?
>>47106937
Death Korps
>>47106937
a carefully tuned force of MT, Inq, AM
>>47106937
Solar macharius
>>47106927
Turn 10, my turn:
My turn, Tac Squad (1) attempts to shoot the Pred, Melta and Krak missile ping off. Tac Squad (3) move behind it to hit back armor, but the Heavy Bolter moved and can't fire, regular bolters don't hit.
They move to assault the tank, no damage.
(I made a mistake previously, the Captain died before Spoopy mask, Spoopy finally died on Turn 10)
Turn 11: Predator moves forward, but also kills the remnants of Tac Squad (3). Sanguinor assaults the rear of Benkei the Dreadnaut, giving it the Vehicle Wrecked result. The Hill has remained uncontested for too long and I have 3 terminators and 8 Tac marines left.
I concede my defeat and we shake hands.
>>47106937
Loyalist death guard in pre-primarch colours.
>>47106937
One Warlord Titan
>>47106900
those armies are fugly
>>47106995
heavy bolter can snapfire if it moved
>>47106995
You might have beat him if it wasnt for the death mask mistake
>>47107016
What's wrong with his purple drank?
I think it looks pretty alright
>>47106900
>deldar fighting 'nids
Just fly away you stupid long ears!!!
>>47106995
>Sanguinor assaults the rear of Benkei the Dreadnaut, giving it the Vehicle Wrecked result
Aww man that's not how that works, walkers automatically turn around and slap shit in close combat unless they're immobilised.
>>47106995
Pictures to go with the AAR
Be warned: I'm not a very good painter and also fielded unfinished models and he liked his models to have a darker coloring.
>>47107040
It was closer to victory than I'd ever come. If Benkei had held out for longer, I could have started taking the bridge again and perhaps blown his tank up. Maybe even popped Sanguinor.
>>47107033
Shit, oh well. Too late.
>>47107072
Ho shit you're the AoS legoman! Good times.
>>47107068
WHAT? Benkei could have attacked and maybe even killed The Sanguinor?! He wasn't immobilized, he'd just lost the storm bolter from one of his wounds.
>>47107072
More pictures.
>>47107098
Am I? I don't know what you're talking about, so probably not.
>>47107072
Yea thats just an ordinary chaplian to bad i dont see lemartis in enough games
>>47107048
looks painted with magic marker, then the guns were dipped in mountain dew.
>>47107016
kek. Let's see your Golden demon winners, anon. I admit that I'm not a great painter, but all my stuff is painted, and it did it myself.
Let's see one of your games, anon.
>>47107111
As my marines died, I populated the fortress with them, forever manning the walls for the Emperor.
>>47107112
I can't say I'm sorry about that. More special snowflake characters (all in good fun, especially when you fight against possibly Khornate space vampires) couldn't have made it any easier to play against.
>>47107111
Ah maybe not then, all I remember is a wooden table, white squares of paper as movement trays and a whole lot of lego.
>>47107048
Thanks, Anon.
>>47107126
If only you could get pearlescent paint like they use on cars for ultimate shiny
>>47107133
I don't take pictures of my games and post them every other thread, because I'm not full of myself. Keep justifying posting a badly painted army though. Maybe you should head over to /wip/ and get some advice?
>>47107148
No, the index cards represent the river (difficult terrain) and the folded ones act as cover.
The table came stock with the apartment I'm in right now.
>>47107112
desu senpai he's overcosted
>>47107167
Aka you don't have an army
It's the effort that counts man
I guarantee when I get my necron army it's going to look like absolute shit because I have the art ability of a first grader.
The nid anon did good
>>47106919
Um. Yah... No. I'll pass on that one.
>>47106937
This one. I just blacked out and bought it on ebay today. $725, after shipping. Who's jelly?
>>47107194
I know but hes so fluffy to bring
>>47107197
It's pretty bad anon, hate to be the bearer of bad news. It's also the fact that he posts his shitty pictures all over all the time. You can tell he desperately needs reddit approval or a blog.
>>47107167
Sorry to offend anon. I like to play the game, and watch the game being played. In the future, I'll stick to complaining about OP image and observing I=2.
>>47107221
That look like it's legitimately pro-painted. Good job, anon.
>>47107284
good. also don't post your crappily painted army or any pictures in the future as well. thanks.
>>47107244
>4chan
>approval
pick one.
>>47107305
Don't Post your army to me or my wife's son again
>>47107305
Please Anon. Just once... Won't you show us your golden Demon winners? Just once, and then I promise to stop posting.
>>47107284
I don't mind seeing or hearing about games especially when both sides are painted. Fuck all these haters on this Peruvian Bagpipe Speculation Forum.
>>47107391
I'm just saying your army looks like shit, is an eyesore, and you should probably strip them and start over. That's all. If you can't take criticism on 4chan then maybe stop posting? There's always reddit for showing off your disgusting models.
>>47107429
greyfag detected
How's that associates degree coming along, anon?
>>47107429
It looks about as good as I paint, maybe you should get off your high horse and fucking deal with it. If you need to hide on 4chan to make your criticism you are some sort of vagina anyway. Besides he hasn't asked for your personal opinion anyway, or anyone's for that matter.
>>47107464
>projection
>>47107120
NEW EDITION
>>47107120
LEAVE YOUR PISSY FIGHTING IN THE OLD THREAD
>>47107120
ALL PAINTED ARMIES WELCOME
>>47107429
Fuck you asshole
>>47107429
How can one man be so petty?
>>47107477
If he's posting his pictures every other thread, (I've seen his shit army in at least 5 past generals) then I'm going to call him out on his bad paint job eventually.
>>47107167
>I'm not full of myself
You clearly are though, you smug cunt.
>>47107429
That's okay, I am sure they look better than you, you basement dwelling troglodyte. Enjoy combing your neckbeard with your cheeto covered fingers and fapping to dickgirls. Anon's nids look just fine.
>>47107515
>past
So not even going for an associates then?
If its only bothering you then youre the one with the problem.
I for one miss the times when people actually showed their armies and discussed their games in the generals.
You probably weren't around for that though, were you?
>>47107500
>>47107503
kek.
not even me.
I just got fucking whiteknighted on 4chin.
mysides.jpg
>>47105502
>>47105489
>>47105496
>>47106576
MANz will wreak havoc on any armored unit short of a super heavy, but how in the fuck do I kill a knight now without my suicide unit of tankbustas?
I need an anti tank unit for my orks that isn't tankbustas or a heavy support.
Any ideas?
>>47107641
13 rokkits a sag and 20 loota shots help me take down a knight in 1 phase.
>>47106900
Hierodules are fucking small. Going by this image I think the Toxicrine is about the same size if not bigger
>>47108034
They're about the same size as the tyrannofex, but bulkier.
>>47108034
yah - they are tiny. Neither a great model or an effective unit for cost, imo.
>>47106937
another armored battlegroup
>>47107561
What the fuck are those Space Wolves?
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