Competitive Modern Magic discussion
>What do you think is the current best deck in Modern?
first for gay lumberjacks and custom cards
>>46732946
>custom cards
Fuck off.
>>46732895
How competitive can a casual format be?
I want to go back to "modern is budget legacy".
>>46732992
Utterly broken because of no banlist if you're retarded enough to buy these cards.
Not even close to competitive if you're poor. There's no reason to play casual magic.
>>46733050
>I want to go back to extended
You FUCKING faggots jelly bro?
Tbh senpai desu
>>46733059
>There's no reason to play casual magic.
Yet you're posting in the modern thread
>>46732992
Very competitive. In MTG the term casual just means it's a non-format playgroup. My kitchen table has Legacy decks that lose to homebrews all the time.
>>46732895
Some thopter build is probably the best deck right now.
I currently play infect. I find is a bit stale, but I love me some free wins. looking for something else to build.
What is everyone else playing?
>>46733083
Forgot pic. That's how intense this is.
>>46733106
Not really. What decks do you own?
>>46733059
>There's no reason to play casual magic.
You were correct right up until that
>>46733142
Don't even play. These just came in the mail.
I'm one of those cancerous speculators you hear about.
Paid 14 per vision. Got 34 total now.
>>46733059
I disagree. A kitchen table group full of shitbrews and with no one knowing how to abuse things like Dark Ritual properly can be quite fun.
>>46733182
Hooray for modern being predictable and hyper reactive
>>46733182
>Got 34 total now.
Post a spread, faggot
>>46733217
Not for me, really.
If I always win, even with my shit brews, there's no fun.
>>46733284
Will when I get home. Got these send to my work as the stupid store only sells a playset at a time.
>>46733217
>tfw when I bring black reanimator to my casual playgroup
>swamp into ritual into entomb into exhume into Iona
>they hate it but we still have fun
>>46733352
>god hand that dies to 1 Mana removal.
Ok.
>>46733391
Not when I name the color of that removal ;^)
>>46733428
>le iona maymay
>>46733501
What exactly is the meme here?
>>46732895
>What do you think is the current best deck in Modern?
It must be Burn, because half of the last thread cried about how unfair it was.
Do you guys think a card like this >>46732479 would make burn actually take skill? As in, they have to be good at the game in order to play around it.
>>46733106
.....but that's one shit card in modern?
Everyone would do well to ignore all custom card fags.
>>46734113
It spiked to like $50 because it got unbanned
>>46734173
But it's still shit.
>>46733611
>cried about it being unfair
>not about it being a shorty meme linear retard deck
Leave it to a burn player not to understand how to read.
>>46730380
so your issue isn't with burn, it's with people playing burn wrong and still winning?
>>46732776 #
>when to fetch and what to fetch for
Your fetch for the mana necessary to cast the cards in your hand, or of you have a seering blaze, you fetch then
>>46732776 #
>when to hold out and when to be super aggressive
Are they playing white or green? No? Okay well then play super agressive.
Glad we have finally dug deep into the intricacies and intense mental strength needed to play burn.
>>46734237
Not him. It's a very linear deck that pop ups everywhere.
>>46734237
My issue is waiting all week to go to fnm, then having to play 5 minutes of magic against some faggot autistic fuck playing burn every single week. It's no fun to play against, you can't even begin to tell me that it is.
Everyone getting angry about playing burn makes me want to play it to be honest
>>46734293
Affinity vs burn is actually pretty fun.
>>46734237
Seems like his issue is with combo decks.
>>46734298
>I intentionally want to not have fun and make other people not have fun to fuel my own retarded desires of others suffering.
This is the very definition of retardation, I'm sure you know.
>>46734366
Thanks for the (You), here's one in return
>>46734310
Yeah, but affinity costs 1000 plus, so not everyone and his retarded brother plays it at fnm, cause budget burn is a lot closer to the good burn deck, when budget affinity is utter shit.
>>46734334
Nah, seems like his issue is with burn.
>>46734405
>affinity costs 1000 plus
Dam son. Cost me maybe $250 to put together.
>>46734279
It's a tier one deck that is relatively cheap to start building before splashing colors, do you get mad when you have to play against any popular deck?>>46734293
5 minutes? Are you losing to burn in 5 minutes?
That sounds absurd to be honest, I play burn at my fnm and even in my good match ups a match will take a solid 15-20 minutes (disregarding the nut draw)
Maybe you just need to sideboard better, what deck do you play?
>>46734498
Sounds more like you or the opponent are slow playing.
I only hate playing against Burn and Infect since they're so uninteractive and show up all the time. Grishoalbrand plays by itself, but it's at least fun to watch and nowhere near as common as those decks.
>>46734310
Do you mean fun as in its a pretty equal match and its enjoyable to play or that affinity is a really good match against burn?
I love playing against infect with burn, I'd say it's one of the only matches that is near exactly 50/50 aside from mirror matches
>>46734298
It's the only reason I still play it. Sometimes I'm thinking of playing some shitbrew like Norin Sisters but see Autismo, Lord of Salt enter the store and go with Burn instead. It's great to hear him mumble something about skill after he goes 2-0.
>>46734498
I actually don't lose to burn at all. I pay UWr control and I can't even remember the last time I lost to an autistic burn player.
>>46734595
What about neurotypical burn players?
>>46734562
>2-0
0-2*
>>46734554
It's favored favored affinity, but burn can win games. The matchups are enjoyable to play in any case.
>>46734608
If I ever meet one I'm sure I'll beat him too.
>>46734550
Ideally burn is ininteractive, sure I would love to get 7 burn spells off undisturbed every game, but that nearly never happens.
burn is very interactive against its bad match ups, it's only non interactive in its ideal matches
>>46734641
I play Jund, and I've never seen anyone cast bolt on my creatures.
Would a card like this help to balance the modern meta?
>>46734067
>>46734721
This is not the Custom Cards thread. All discussion surrounding these cards lead to no where and should be moved to the Custom Cards thread.
So here's the list ive been brewing. Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated
Azorius charm x2
Ghostly prison x2
Flooded strand x4
Geist of saint traft x4
Glacial fortress x4
Gitaxian probe x 2
Hyena umbra x2
Invisible stalker x4
Invocation of saint traft x4
Island x5
Mana leak x4
Pacifism x2
Path to exile x4
Plains x5
Remand x4
Serum visions x4
Vapor snag x4
>>46734721
You clearly have no idea how to balance the modern meta, so no.
>>46734682
>>46734682
Jund is kind of in the middle to be honest, most of the stuff in your deck we'd want to bolt are out of range and trying to kill off finks is just a losing game.
I think it generally is better to just try to kill you before you kill us
It's a pretty weird match up
>>46734721
First of all, fuck off.
Second of all, that'd actually be viable, I'd play it in a deck, probably be broken though. Just 4 elks, 4 pacts, and enough shit to cast on him to make him lethal. And like, ramp and shit. Seems good to me.
>>46734825
Pretty shut desu.
>>46734721
Nice secret paladin card.
>>46734721
If you wanted to make a green Goblin Dark Dwellers then have it bring a creature with 2CMC or less to the battlefield from your deck.
>>46735505
They already have woodland bellower
>>46735505
Also
>phantasmal image
>>46733352
>not casting FoW on Entomb
Your meta has bad players
>>46734968
Why? What weaknesses do you see?
>>46735742
you're putting too much faith in my play group. one player has w/b enchantments and the other one is playing budget modern infect. and everything else is edh
>>46735808
How about you're just playing an awful version of an already established deck.
Bogles
I'm going to Make America Great Again
>>46736068
How does this deck beat green eldrazi tron?
>>46735964
I was just looking for help. Its not necessary to be an asshole
>>46736068
if you want to make america great again you need more white.
>>46734721
>5-color elk
Titan's Strength (+12/+12)
Giant Growth (+12/+12)
Gods Willing (protection from blockers)
Mizzium Skin (hexproof)
Expedite (haste, cantrip)
Wild Slash (ferocious trigger, damage cannot be prevented)
GG?
>>46734298
People telling how it's tiresome to play against a braindead deck on a weekly basis doesn't necessarily make them angry, I think.
>>46736093
show me a list, there isn't one on goldfish.
>not wanting to play tutor+sneak attack: the card
shiggy
>>46736068
>not just posting a link
>>46736093
How does green Eldrazi tron not get shit on by every deck ever?
>>46736180
What in my post was rude or offensive to you? Fucking grow a pair
>>46736252
Summonner's pact.
Anyone having any success with Tezzerator/any deck with thopter sword?
http://mtgtop8.com/format?f=MO&meta=54 doesn't seem to show any results.
Man /tg/ is full of retards and dicks nowadays. What a shame
>>46736703
>implying it ever wasn't
>>46736703
It's full of thin skinned special snowflakes actually
>>46736418
>>46736660
Here. Replace Ruin Processor in the sideboard with Kozilek, the Great Distortion as Ruin Processor is garbage. The deck has a ~75% winrate after 100 games and has a 100% winrate against blue control variants according to the person who tested it.
>>46736695
I'm having fun with this, considering dropping a remand for muddle, cause the combo is just game over against so many decks.
Land (23)
1x Academy Ruins
1x Breeding Pool
3x Darkslick Shores
2x Darksteel Citadel
2x Island
2x Misty Rainforest
4x Polluted Delta
2x Sunken Ruins
1x Swamp
1x Verdant Catacombs
4x Watery Grave
Instant (16)
3x Abrupt Decay
3x Dismember
4x Mana Leak
2x Remand
4x Thirst for Knowledge
Planeswalker (4)
4x Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas
Artifact (12)
1x Batterskull
4x Chalice of the Void
3x Sword of the Meek
4x Thopter Foundry
Sorcery (2)
2x Damnation
Creature (3)
3x Spellskite
>>46736759
>75% win rate
Lmao, nah. Literally no game against aggro, which is essentially modern. Even worse than rg ton cause no early sweepers. This list is trash.
>>46736790
This is hot garbage kiddo
>>46736914
Have you ever played it, or even seen it played for that matter?
>>46736068
Looks spicy. Nahiri is pretty bomb desu, I played against a RW D&T deck last Modern FNM and he tutored for Kozilek before I could Burn him out. She has potential unless people bring back Hero's Downfall.
>>46737104
Or maelstrom pulse. Or creatures.
>>46736914
What's with yall? Are people not allowed to brew their own decks and have fun around here?
>>46736834
>no game against aggro
Besides the entire sideboard and the all is dusts? Even the thought knots and conduits work well against aggro.
>>46737165
It's not even the fact that he just says it's bad, it's the fact that I know for a fact he's never used it or seen it considering it's my brew, and he doesn't leave any input. He's just a fag.
>>46736790
>>46737003
>>46737212
Here's some criticism for you.
Drop green. You either go all in on the combo or you play a different deck, period. Move Dismember to the side unless people are still playing Eldrazi. Add Chalice and Thoughtcast and call it a day.
>>46733501
>le "I'm wrong so I'll call it a meme" meme
>>46734189
Not him, but atleast it's sellable shit, god forbid you have a foil set you'll never use, so you make a quick buck off it :^)
>>46736252
Elk combo deck. Wizards, print this man's elk.
>Tezzerator or tezzetron in top 8 when?
>>46737268
I already run chalice, did you even read my list.
>>46737268
Also, if you can recomend me 2 pieces of removal better than decay and dismember that I can easily splash fo, be my guest.
>>46737268
Chalice is literally the image on his post you jackass
>>46737346
I must have missed it. Foundry has hybrid white, so you could go with Path instead of Dismember. Then you can cut green and add in Anguished Unmaking or Utter End.
>>46734682
If burn can kill scavenging ooze it will. As well as Huntmaster and Kalitas. You're probably having a unique experience because you either play shitty burn players, don't play many or any copies of said creatures, or the burn player never had the resources to kill said creatures
>>46737520
Yeah, I could actually see going white, that might be a thing.
>>46737802
The problem is Modern doesn't have access to Vindicate, but by dropping green and adding white your sideboard options can go pretty wide. Stony Silence, Firewalkers, etc.
>>46737833
Well, my burn match up is already pretty good, and stony silence doesn't seem like where I want to be.
can't lose
with my brews
>>46738402
Bant... Decentstuff?
>>46738402
So how do you win before turn 30?
Should I get into modern? I have been playing legacy for so long I don't think it would even feel like the same game for me any more.
If yes, which decks are the most dominant since Ugin ban?
>>46738436
It's a tempo deck with a really powerful draw engine.
>>46738489
By attacking.
>>46738489
Counter everything and then sphinx's rev for 15?
>>46738531
You mean selkie?
>>46738553
Holy fuck, I remember this meme, pure gold, you got the image?
>>46738597
I certainly think its the epitome of how good /tg/ is at magic.
>>46738625
lol
>>46736180
Do you need safespace?
In quick glance;
Fuck probe, pacifism, azorius charm. Check bogles for reasons why it's good. (You need to have a lot more good bump spells to go with that plan, I can tell you that.)
You know what would be funny? Casting geist on turn 3 to get it pyroclasmed, liliana'd or other fuck shit. Would rather play geist in different kind of tempo shell.
>>46738625
No, not that one, the uw deck that was literally a standard deck some kid tried to play in modern
>>46738508
What decks did you play in Legacy? What kinds of decks do you like to play?
>>46738742
Ok thanks this is actually helpful
Have you guys ever had your opponent try to cheat?
Last FNM I was playing against someone and i was super tired, like to the point of mental degradation, and after winning game 3, my opponent said "okay on to game 3".
for a good 5 minutes I was discussing with him whether or not we played 3 games and until he mentioned sideboarding, I had no clue how many games we had played.
I don't know if he did it intentionally but i feel like he often tries to fudge rules/games.
>>46738597
>Holy fuck, I remember this meme
Wow, you remember something from last year that was posted daily? Steel trap you have there.
>>46739085
I've honestly forgotten about game 1 sometimes when I play my hyper aggro deck, and then the next game is real slow. It happens.
>>46738949
Issue I found with geist is, that it needs very expensive support to go with it (Namely snapcaster/restoration angel/celestial colonnade) to compensate the impact it has. Yes, it's good when it hits, but it's bad when it gets blocked. Therefore you have to go either UWB or UWR build to run good amount of discard/removal to keep the coast clear for him.
The enchantment plan wants to have threat on board quickly to get on with bump spells. Stalker is good, but it's not necessary when 1cmc hexproof guys are available. Therefore we get into established deck instead of geist shenanigans.
>>46739085
You should record everything on paper bro.
>>46739256
i hear ya, i forgot my pad at home and had to use the spin down
>>46739131
I think it was more than a year ago, I think it was while RTR there's was still standard, and that was a while
>>46739085
Sometimes I lose game 1 so hard I forget that I won the match.
>"That was a rough matchup. [Card X] rapes my deck. It was almost as oppressive as my first opponent!"
>"Aren't you 2 and 0?"
>>46739342
>I think it was more than a year ago
You think wrong.
The whole point was that it the idiot thought his mostly standard UW deck could compete in Modern.
Could've sworn that the original had Ponder or Preordain, though.
>>46739676
https://warosu.org/tg/thread/40173076
Decided to try this out, any thoughts?
4 Delver
4 Thing in the Ice
4 Path
4 Visions
4 Isochron Scepter
4 Vapor Snag
3 Echoing Truth
3 Mana Leak
2 Familiar's Ruse (UU, bounce a creature, counter target spell)
2 Deprive (As Ruse, but bounce a land instead of a creature)
2 Curse of Exhaustion
1 Ancestral Vision
4 Flooded Strand
4 Prairie Stream
7 Plains
9 Island
Sideboard:
2 Hurkyl's Recall
2 Supreme Verdict
2 Familiar's Ruse
2 Deprive
2 Stratus Dancer
2 Apostle's Blessing
2 Faith's Shield
I know I need the shocks in it, probably colonnades too, but I'm not sure what to put in the 15th sideboard slot. I'm also not sure which of my main spells should be 3 ofs and which should be 4 ofs.
>>46739676
It does have preordained bruh.
>>46739907
Ah... didn't recognize by the other artwork.
how many slip through spaces should I run in infect? 1 or 2. Also what should i sideboard? I have been out of the meta since Eldrazi started and need to know what would be the best for the meta right now.
>>46740157
I honestly prefer distortion strike.
>>46739788
>bounce a creature
>only creatures are delver and thing
this is not ok
>>46738871
I play high tide. I kind of want to play lantern control. I don't like creatures in general.
>>46740647
That's why there's only 2 of them in the main. If I really need more creatures, I have the stratus dancers.
Rate and give suggestions for my myr decks, teeg. Gonna build up one of the two as a fun-time modern deck. More of a between-rounds kit.
http://www.mtgvault.com/2psychoman1/decks/myrror-myrror/
http://www.mtgvault.com/2psychoman1/decks/myr-hate/
Go ahead and leave constructive comments in the links, so I can have them when the thread dies, please.
>>46740994
Lantern Control or Scapeshift seem to be right up your alley. No creatures, only pain and suffering. No High Tide combo decks in this meta, and especially no creatureless decks beside Lantern and Scapeshift.
A bunch of us made a thread and brewed up a Spirit Tribal deck, check it out.Please don't advise more fetches.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/17-04-16-CET-spirit-tribal/
>>46741166
You shouldn't be running ANY in that deck. Not only is Ruse a bad card, but it's a special kind of shitty in a deck that relies on flip cards for damage.
If you had Snapcasters or Spellstutters or fucking ANYTHING with ETBs I could see you falling into that trap, but you must be brain damaged to think it works with just Delver and Titi.
>>46741928
Alright, I see your point. I'll probably put snapcasters in when I can get them. What should I take out in their place? Bring some spells down to 3 copies or cut something entirely?
>>46742174
It's like you aren't even listening to him. You cut the fucking Ruses.
>>46741922
Fit in Vial somewhere, remove verdict.
>>46742240
Just one? We could just switch Vial with Verdict.
>>46742306
lol no, 4
>>46742354
What the fuck am I supposed to cut? Is it even worth adding $180 to the cost of the deck? Will it improve it that much?
>>46742415
I assume you don't play comp modern..
>>46742415
Vial is expensive because it turns shitty decks into great ones.
>>46742441
>>46742457
Right after I posted, I thought about the possibilities with this deck and vial. You guys are right. But what do I cut?
>trying to make first top tier deck
Why is it so expensive bros?
I'm going to cry.
I have a job, but money goes to bills and my wife and kid. Wizards please think of the poor man :(
Will suck dick for x4 Goblin Guide
I can't decide if I hate lantern or kiki chord more
Modern is fucking horrible right now
>>46742227
I think you guys are looking at the deck wrong. I literally do not care about dealing damage until roughly turn 15 or so. The entire point of the deck is to stop everything that the other player does. Familiar's Ruse is literally there so I have a hard counter that doesn't completely stunt my mana in the first few turns.
>>46741922
You faggots needmore fetches
>>46742698
>Goblin Guide TCG mid is $42
Boy am I glad I got mine at $30 a pop. I'm sure they'll go back down someday bro
>>46742712
At least playing against Kiki-Chord isfun
>>46742754
It is bad. Do not use it. If you continue to use it, you will lose.
>play Delver
>bounce for ruse
>3 mana counterspell
>play titi
>bounce for ruse
>4 mana counterspell
>>46734158
You're fucking cancer and should contemplate killing yourself.
>>46742779
Honestly, it doesn't.
>>46742457
I made the change for Vial, is it awesome now?
>>46742834
You do realize that I don't have to recast the creature immediately, right? I can wait until later on when I have the mana to spare to play it again.
>>46742712
How can you hate Kiki chord? It's like my favorite deck to play with and against, so many options and lines and fun ofs.
>>46743015
I'm saying that by playing and bouncing it, you have spent 3-4 mana on a counterspell. Please just use a good card. Use fucking cancel if you have to, but not a bounce effect with flip creatures, please.
>>46743015
>holding back creatures in Aggro: The Format
Would this be something I can build on? I know Mono red Burn sucks, but for just a building block?
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-67-13-tix-modern-mono-red-burn
Why doesn't modern Burn use a playset of Chain Lightening?
>>46743100
That will be fun and decent for FNM or the like, and you can build it into Naya.
>>46743168
God bless. I'm trying to save up for it now.
>>46743163
It's not Legal.
>>46743100
Remove Aggressive Mining from the sideboard. Add something else, like Ball Lightning, Sudden Shock, or that Devoid instant for 2 from Oath.
>>46743064
It is literally the only other option I have besides the land bouncing one. I have to have a 2 mana hard counter or the deck doesn't work. Just go give it a try with proxies or on Cockatrice or something. I've actually PLAYED with it. Bouncing a creature, even a flip creature, is NOT that big a deal the way the deck plays.
>>46743334
If you say so. Why not just use remand?
>>46743367
That actually sounds a lot better now that you mention it. Plus it's way better to stick on a scepter.
>>46742849
Ebin :D :D :D
>>46743418
The deck only needs 3 manaand preferably an Aether Vial at 3], and it draws enough fetches.
>>46743411
Glad I could help. Good night, and good luck.
>tfw I loved dragon control
>tfw my favorite standard deck ever was ub control with pearl Lake ancient and Ashiok
TAKE ME BACK BREHS ;-; this is my shit attempt on playing esper dragons in modern.
4 Dragonlord Ojutai
4 Silumgar's Scorn
4 Path to Exile
4 Ancestral Vision
3 Supreme Verdict
2 Remand
2 Spell Snare
3 Cryptic Command
3 Snapcaster Mage
2 Silumgar, the Drifting Death
4 Celestial Colonnade
2 Watery Grave
4 Flooded Strand
4 Polluted Delta
2 Hallowed Fountain
1 Sphinx's Revelation
1 Shambling Vent
1 Ghost Quarter
3 Island
1 Godless Shrine
2 Plains
1 Swamp
2 Esper Charm
1 Go for the Throat
>>46744833
Looks
Like
Shit
Tbh
Senpai
>>46744880
I said it was. It took no thought, just put shit in ;-; but man does is it feel good playing scorn.
Just finished Kiki Chord and Grixis delver. Any anons who play those decks have general advice? My meta is diverse but there's a lot of infect and combo compared to the rest, so I'm shelving Skred for now. Also protip: Commune with Lava isn't good, for the few anons out there who have an interest in Skred. I tried it and every game it was irrelevant or win more (so, irrelevant).
You guys saw that Painful Truths + Thorn of Amethyst meme? I almost got baited until I saw Blood Moon there.
>>46745313
>not using thorn + Thalia to pay 5 draw 5 lose 5
Plebeian
>>46744833
There's two ways you can go here. Grixis or esper.
Esper is shit cause you lose bolt and game closing is hard without it
Go Grixis. There's cute things you can do like kolaghan's command in response to a spell. Discard + return a discarded dragon then use the dragon to reveal off scorn to counter their spell.
>4 bolt
>3 k command
>4 ancestral visions
>3 scorn
>2 dispel
>2 spell snare
>3-4 terminate
>2 kolaghan storm fury
>1 thundermaw Hellkite
>2 sulimgar dragonlord
>3 snapcaster
>2 tasigur.
But if you go Grixis the standard Grixis build is just way better
>>46745442
Hmm khologans would close the game so fast. I might try this familia. Ehh I don't need optimal I just need to bring back the dragon control feels. I also want to make a ub control deck with pearl Lake.
I want to get in on the incestral vision meme and play UR control with dank-dwellers. Anyone heard of any sweet brews
>>46745218
Kiki chord just isn't great against faster combo. Run those sin collectors out hard.
How does mono black fare in modern? Cards like Phyrexian Obliterate and such.
>>46745501
Pearl Lake is bad value. It's too slow against tron for what you need to do. If you want UB than either esper or tron is the way to go. Pearl Lake is cute but it's a slower aetherling
I helped my friend brew this. He's an ex-Twin player who's getting back into Modern and he wanted to try a Thopter/Gifts deck.
Any thoughts, /tg/?
BUG Thopter/Sword:
Creatures: 2
1 Snapcaster Mage
1 Tasigur, the Golden Fang
Instants and Sorceries: 23
3 Inquisition of Kozilek
3 Thoughtseize
1 Raven's Crime
3 Abrupt Decay
1 Go for the Throat
1 Life from the Loam
4 Thirst for Knowledge
1 Dismember
1 Maelstrom Pulse
4 Gifts Ungiven
1 Murderous Cut
Artifacts: 11
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Pithing Needle
1 Nihil Spellbomb
3 Talisman of Dominance
3 Thopter Foundry
2 Sword of the Meek
Lands: 24
4 Lumbering Falls
4 Polluted Delta
4 Verdant Catacombs
2 Watery Grave
2 Overgrown Tomb
2 Swamp
1 Island
1 Forest
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Tectonic Edge
1 Academy Ruins
Deck that is the best investment?
I.E. longevity.
>>46746138
Affinity
Hi guys. My English is not very good , so sorry for the bad language . It needed the money , so I sell all of their cards . Available there are 12 ( yes, I'm an idiot ) Pauper decks , all in boxes and sleeves, decks competitive level, complete (Kuldotha Jeskai, MBC, BURN, Reality Acid, Stompy and many others). I listen to offers for the purchase of all at once. Ready to conduct communication by mail , ready to make a discount. In addition Pauper decks also give you for free playset of Simian Spirit guide and playset of manaformoza.
Hi guys. My English is not very good , so sorry for the bad language . It needed the money , so I sell all of their cards . Available there are 12 ( yes, I'm an idiot ) Pauper decks , all in boxes and sleeves , decks competitive level , complete (Kuldotha Jeskai, MBC, BURN, Reality Acid , stompy, and many others) . I listen to offers for the purchase of all at once. Ready to conduct communication by mail , ready to make a discount. In addition Pauper decks also give you for free Simian Spirit guide playset and playset manaformozy
>>46745218
I'm not sure how grixis delver is in this meta, but it should have a good match up against Infect. You just have to play the control role. Be patient and always keep up a kill/counter spell. >>46745977
>>46743100
i built that list and then upgraded to naya burn, it definitely is a decent starting point.
i recommend just starting out with boros burn though, add lightning helix and boros charm and drop flames of the bloodhand and magma jets
get 4 wear tear in sideboard, drop rending volley
add dragons claw to the sideboard and if your mana base is consistent enough get kor firewalker instead
it's good to have fetches but not 100% necessary at first, i ran battlefield forge and a plain or two until i could afford sacred foundries and fetches.
>>46746770
>>46743100
also just shill out the 12-13 dollars for the playset of monastery swiftspear, it's cheaper than usual because of rotation and theyre awesome
>Horizon canopy
Just getting into mtg, bought a deckbuilders toolkit and a predone deck thing, $45aud from a reputable source. Got horizon canopy, an app I have says it's worth about $100??? It's holo and has the same symbol in red.
>>46746810
that is correct, good score.
>>46746810
Packs from battle for zendikar and oath of the gatewatch have a very rare chance of featuring a special land with that unique frame and art. Some are worth more than others.
>>46746832
>>46746862
Nice, is it worth keeping? Or should I sell it, not really interested in collecting, I just got them to play with friends. Could probably dump it into boosters and have multiple decks with all the lands from the builder.
>>46746941
sell it but dont put all your money into boosters unless you just want to draft, if you want to make decks you like, just put the money into cards you need directly.
boosters are just gambling
how is burns match up vs thopter sword combo?
will that deck actually gain traction to where i need to keep stony silences sideboarded?
>>46746990
Fair enough, where do you sell single cards? In Australia.
>>46746367
>manaformoza
>>46746238
They are banning Affinity next year.
>>46747108
Why would they? It isn't a combo deck.
>>46746798
Someone gave me one of her, so I at least have that.
80 bucks is what that budget deck costs after I factor in what I have. I should be able to build it in a few months.
>>46743100
A playset of Scalding Tarn is HOW EXPENSIVE?
What the FUCK.
>>46746770
That alter. Talk about rims on a beater. Jesus.
>>46742841
Why? Because I hold on to my cards?
Goblins seems cheap and fun, but why does no one play them? Are they that ass?
>>46747211
They're not really that bad.
>>46747294
I play at FNM , I was in the top 3 last week. They have a large number of bad matchups , and they are easy to break, but there are those who are very easy to defeat the goblins
>>46747294
No. Goblins is very decent for the price. A lot of people dont play them because "its a meme".
I want to learn how to play burn really well.
What should I read/watch
>>46747388
me too man...me too.
Professional burn matches I suppose, watch the sequencing and when the player decides to hold a burn rather than casting it.
also make sure you have good knowledge of all your opponents decks so you know when to burn a creature to prevent a combo etc.
>>46747376
Good. I sawbone without goblin guide and its around 100 something.
>>46733099
Nah, thopters aren't that strong.
>>46747474
Saw one*
>>46733059
>There's no reason to play casual magic.
Oh I forgot, competitivefags forgot how to have fun after their fathers left their mothers for sleeping around so now they feel the need to make sure nobody else has fun
>>46740157
I run 2 slip through space.
Why is Infect the best deck in modern?
>>46742415
The beauty of vial is it lets you build a bunch of shitty decks. If you have a good assortment of lands in your collection along with vials it makes it easy to build a shitty deck you might be interested in as a lot of the times the expensive cards in those decks are cards you should already own.
for example death and taxes is fairly cheap with the expensive things being cards like spellskite, stony silence, path which every modern player should already own or try to own.
most tribal strategies make use of vial.
If your deck revolves around 1-3 cmc creatures you might as well jam 4x vials into your list and see how that works out.
>>46747712
Yeah, I did. It does some crazy shit like T3 Drogskol Captain and Phantasmal Image for 2 3/3 Hexproof fliers the buff everything around them.
>>46746367
I can buy em from you if the price is nice.
>>46743035
>so many options and lines
There really aren't. You either rush the combo if your opponent lacks interaction or just tutor for your sideboard 1-ofs for a particular MU.
>>46747771
Well over 60 percent of the total cost of the deck if satisfied . You can leave a fake - mails that would discuss in more detail?
>>46747788
I will post the adress when I get home from work.
Why isn't this playable?
I can understand it's not immediate answer, which might be the reason, but isn't this major fuck factor on any aggro type deck out there?
>>46748113
Because it kills your own creatures anon kun. It might be ok in some sort of grindy deck that also doesn't run creatures, but there are better, faster answers.
>>46748113
It is playable, but it usually sees play in enchantment decks.
>>46747645
Because all the best decks are banned or neutered.
>>46746941
Either sell the card, or trade it away for non-premium cards you'd rather want.
If you're unsure what cards you'd trade it for, go for fetch lands. You'll find use for them later, and they will most likely increase in price as the time goes.
>>46747388
Matt Sperling's burn vs Ian Floch's UW control during RTR standard. Floch was piloting literally Immortality.deck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4LNkyD9l8M
>>46747294
They are decent. Look up "8whack". It's cheap and efficient, though not anywhere near tier 1.
How bad is the idea of a werewolf modern deck using pic related and silver fur partisan to get card advantage plus the weird anthems werewolves have
Here is picture
>>46741922
Cut be con apart ion for path to exile.
>>46748723
Is any goblin deck tier one?
What's the cheapest tier one deck?
>>46749335
Jund
>>46747131
Artificial rotation, of course. Wizards gotta keep things fresh and sell packs, familia.
>>46748707
What the fuck is this Floch guy doing? Once around 20:00 and again at 29:00 he casts a Verdict during Sperling's turn.
>>46749754
Look up the card Quicken.
>>46750267
No one plays this outside Vintage.
>>46750279
Maybe they should start then. It makes sure that Purphory Nodes never gets sacrificed while fixing mana. You can also run it in Beck//Call meme combo decks.
>>46747076
Ebay
>>46750286
I'm going to try this. We'll see how it goes. All the cards with the "give your opponent a creature token" downsides.
>>46750286
Why exactly? Pumping tokens for your opponent means Nodes never hits anything relevant (guide, nacatl, bob, snappy, goyf), Beck/Call will never be competitive (read: fast) enough and Ad Nauseam already has all the fixing it needs and giving your opponent beaters when you usually win with 1-2 life vs aggro is not the greatest plan.
>>46748113
It's great on the field with Heliod in enchantment decks, but Mesa Enchantress having 0 power means it's not a good fit if you plan to combo.
>>46750354
Only pump it when you need to. It's a land that serves a purpose beyond making mana. Think Tabernacle.
>>46749445
yfw they kill Company instead
>>46734682
Burn is favored heavily in your match up
>>46750497
Then in come Baloth/Huntmaster/Dragon's Claw.
>>46750543
Of course. Those are great sideboard cards against burn in that match up. It does get better game two and three. Be careful for green and red mana sources up for maybe a atarka command and skullctsck for life gain and destructive revelry for any artifacts
Is it possible to build Naya Zoo without Goyfs?
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