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Yesterday's thread:
>>46501769
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>Population:9 700 000 (69% white, 7 % chink,5% kafi, 8% hibibi, 4 % pajit, 7% darkskin)
>Colonials: 350 000
>Economy:Thriving;Camark gold & silver coins,good international trade, postal service, National Bank, mercantilism, manufacturies
>Food stockpiles:high
>Food production: high
>Political Stability: Medium
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Improve defences
>F.Architecture
>G.Improve military
>H.Research science
>I.Improve a settlement/region
>J.Navy
>K.Improve economy
>L. Diplomacy
>M.Government & Laws
>N.Military actions
Yesterday we continued our exploration and colonisation of the western continent, establishing a joint colony with the Kaichou.
The expansion of the Pajit Empire prompted us to launch a surprise invasion on the Jamatun Kingdom. Our superior military forces make short work of the darkskin warriors and we have conquered the nation. Many thousands of darkskins perished in the process of the invasion, but we have begun restoring order to the new province and helping the locals recover, making them equal minority subjects of our republic.
Current state of the Western Continent.
>>46523033
>K.Improve economy
Slow start, isn't it?
>>46524445
I'm going with this
Increase child support for white parents, thus encouraging whites to mate. (If I have to choose a letter, I guess this counts as M)
>>46524821
our white population is already at replacement levels and are demographics are quite segregated
What economic area should we develop:
A.Resources
B.Finances
C.Economic theory
D.Manufacturing
E.Trade
F.Integrate new provinces
G.Something else
>>46524947
what's integrate new provinces got to do with economy
>>46524947
Is this civilization familiar with Marxism? If no, then do C. If yes, then do D.
>>46524990
The Jamatun lands we conquered are a backwards province - the locals have outdated agricultural, metalurgical etc. technology, poor infrastructure and rely heavily on slavery.
>>46524947
F.Integrate new provinces
>>46524996
We lack the knowledge of any form of socialist or communist theory along with the needed technology to make such things capable of working.
>>46525114
F. alight lets get to work civilizing these provinces
We've built roads connecting the new province with our highways, sent bureaucrats, officers, teachers, priests and specialists to work on uplifting the darkskins. New fields are planted and the locals are being put to work. For now, they are obedient, in awe of our superior technology. Work is steady on improving the province in all directions. Cotton has also been introduced into the warmer parts of the province as a new cash crop.
>Population:10 000 000 (69% white, 7 % chink,5% kafi, 8% hibibi, 4 % pajit, 7% darkskin)
>Colonials: 350 000
>Economy:Thriving;Camark gold & silver coins,good international trade, postal service, National Bank, mercantilism, manufacturies
>Food stockpiles:high
>Food production: high
>Political Stability: Medium
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Improve defences
>F.Architecture
>G.Improve military
>H.Research science
>I.Improve a settlement/region
>J.Navy
>K.Improve economy
>L. Diplomacy
>M.Government & Laws
>N.Military actions
>>46525545
B, focusing on population growth please (especially whites)
>>46525545
Give some name suggestions for the towns north of Darkfall.
>>46525545
>M.Government & Laws
implement colonial laws to promote colonialism on the following topics (sea travel, political delegation in colonies,trading ect.)
It'd be sad to have them revolt over unfair tea price or dumb shit like that because we're unable to ensure they're treated as the same class of citizen.
>>46525580
I propose Jôthünheïm
>>46525851
Our current policies are generous towards colonists in the western continent and frontierlands - tax exemption, free farming land etc. Our people are quite happy at the moment overall, though we could go even further and subsidize colonization efforts more.
>>46526254
>>46526209
well then switching to tech let's try researching more into thermal energy let's get some mad physic and math done
We shall focus on research for now, but what area in particular?
A.Biology
B.Chemistry
C.Physics
D.Engineering(mechanics etc.)
E.Military
F.Suggest something else
>>46526385
E or D
>>46526385
D.Engineering(mechanics etc.)
>>46526385
C.Physics
let's go full fourier/euler on this shit and revolutionize everything
heat equations, logarithms and all that jazz
>>46526385
chemistry
>>46525580
We should name a couple of the villages after the generals Wirnis and Knoras who conquered the Darkskins.
Rolled 33 (1d100)
We've developed the first steam engine! After some initial prototype designs, the first successful piston steam engine's principle is to condense steam in a cylinder, thus causing atmospheric pressure to drive a piston and produce mechanical work. We are now beginning to employ steam power in pumps.
Rolling for international development(high is beneficial to us, low is beneficial to a non-ally)
>>46526684
fucking pajeet are going to do some shit
The Pajit have modernized their navy, building ships of comparable design to our own. Theyve launched an invasion of the Barniju Spice Islands - the archipelago has no unified government and nature is as much of an enemy as the locals.
Renamed some settlements after warleaders.
>Population:10 300 000 (69% white, 7 % chink,5% kafi, 8% hibibi, 4 % pajit, 7% darkskin)
>Colonials: 500 000
>Economy:Thriving;Camark gold & silver coins,good international trade, postal service, National Bank, mercantilism, manufacturies
>Food stockpiles:high
>Food production: high
>Political Stability: Medium-high
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Improve defences
>F.Architecture
>G.Improve military
>H.Research science
>I.Improve a settlement/region
>J.Navy
>K.Improve economy
>L. Diplomacy
>M.Government & Laws
>N.Military actions
>>46526907
>H.Research science
fuck we need industrial revolution now to spam steel ships and fucking get trains for logistics we'll need to go at war against the pajeets soon.
>>46526907
B focusing on white population growth.
>>46526907
H. Trains and Locomotives would be a major stepping stone and serve us well in the movement of troops and goods.
>>46526934
Yes
>>46526934
this
>>46526979
>>46527015
>>46527052
>>46526934 (me)
Alright everybody here is the plan:
>invading the Ramki kingdom as soon as possible or subjugating them
>creating a wall from fortmill to greenvale
>dominating the gigantic river and flanking the sea thank to conquering the Ramki kingdom
this would be agood plan because we circle them almost completely the only part of their empire that's be safe would be the far east.
>>46526974
Instead of white population growth, we should focus on minority population shrinkage. Enact laws that only allow for subjects such as the Kafi and Darkskin to only have one child. Each thread the population for them can shrink until they're only 0.5% of tthe population and they essentially have to live on reservations.
>>46527141
I like this idea
We've improved the steam engine design even further through new inovations. All-round our scientists are working in all fields to give us a decisive edge over any potential enemies to our nation - however, this is a process which takes time. The government has dedicated more funds and resources towards R&D, but inventions take time.
Meanwhile, the Pajit have almost completed the conquest of the spice islands. In the west the kaichou have begun colonising inland. News have come of fighting at the borders of the inroki tribes and the Pacharnati Empire.
>Population:10 500 000 (69% white, 7 % chink,5% kafi, 8% hibibi, 4 % pajit, 7% darkskin)
>Colonials: 600 000
>Economy:Prosperous;Camark gold & silver coins,good international trade, postal service, National Bank, mercantilism, manufacturies, steam engine
>Food stockpiles:high
>Food production: high
>Political Stability: Medium-high
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Improve defences
>F.Architecture
>G.Improve military
>H.Research science
>I.Improve a settlement/region
>J.Navy
>K.Improve economy
>L. Diplomacy
>M.Government & Laws
>N.Military actions
>>46527190
It's a good long term solution, but I'm going to sleep now, so I was just rolling for short term answer.
>>46527190
They might revolt if done so, leave them be.
If anything, just keep the "no intermarriage between whites and non-whites" law in place and try to assimilate their culture into ours, ie, making their culture disappear in favor of ours.
>>46527221
B, focusing on white population growth.
>>46527221
>>L. Diplomacy
Prepare for War with the Ramki
>>46527221
>L
Prepare for war with the Ramki and propose naval tech to the kaichou Empire for helping us, we need them to have it anyway to thwestern seas from the pajeet empire
>>46527141
>>46527205
I think i need to point out a few potential flaws in this plan that need to be discussed:
>them conquering junutu isles could contest our navy's superiority
>we could also flank by the east by conquering jamatun
>it'd be hard to establish railroads from our capital to ramki due to montains
>if the sunset alliance attack us during this war were fucked
>>46527244
Restricting they're breeding rights is the better solution compared to killing them outright or attempting to assimilate an entire race which would be very very slow. Killing them outright would lead to revolt but gradually assimilating them is impossible unless if it means breaking the purity of our people and not heeding the race laws. Have a one child policy is the best middle option. Also it would only be applied to subjects who have proved unruly such as the Kafi.
>>46527367
Were allies with the sunset alliance, hell some of our finest advisor have come from there (pic related). We will just have to bunker up along the river as we send our larger navy around to defeat them. As for the railroads, we shall simply have to innovate and perhaps dig through them.
>>46527467
Durig war a tend to shift sides if they think it's good for them, but i really think we should become closer allies with the kaichou empire which would allow us to run the railroads through their land and secure he fact that the sunset alliance can't backstab us freely.
I think conquering jamatun as well would allow us to completly circle the pajeet empire which would give us a lot of tactical freedom.
At a secret meeting, top military and government officials have agreed to raise the threat level and prepare for war in the near future. New forces shall be drawn to the standing army and the militia shall double their drill excercises.
2700 well equipped, mounted officers
3500 rangers(mounted archers, excellent scouts)
1500 Maargard
2000 Stormborn
2500 Blitzkriegers
600 professional heavy infantry
9000 professional archers(hunters in peace-time)
10 000 Reiters
17 000 Musketeers
Field medics of the order of St. Roise
Siege engineers
All adult males are trained to be part of the militia, even chinks. They act as a reserve that is mobilized when needed and mostly fight as highly effecitve(especially in defense)pikemen and arquebusiers/musketeers.
>Equipment
longbows, pikes, swords,zweihanders,crossbows, shields, armor,helmets,liquid fire,great plate armor,trebuchets,culverin, arquesbus,pistol, flintlock muskets
>Navy:18 galleons,12 early frigates,8 galleas ,70 flyuts ,good sailors, Stormborn, the Admiralty
What TWO military improvements should we make?
A.Improve the navy
B.Improve the militia
C.Phase out the heavy infantry swordsmen for more musketeers
D.Improve our cavalry
E.Improve the artillery corps
F.Improve officers and tactics
G.Improve special divisions(rangers and elemental orders)
>>46527569
During war allies tend to shift sides if they think it's good for them
fucking can't type for shit at 11PM
>>46527595
A and C
>>46527595
A.Improve the navy
E.Improve the artillery corps
the next wars will be fought mostly at sea or from fortified positions
>>46527595
>C.Phase out the heavy infantry swordsmen for more musketeers
F.Improve officers and tactics
>>46527595
>C.Phase out the heavy infantry swordsmen for more musketeers
>F.Improve officers and tactics
Gotta modernize.
>>46527595
D and G. We should modernize our special forces that have served us through the ages and not let them fall to ruin.
>>46527595
C.Phase out the heavy infantry swordsmen for more musketeers
A.Improve the navy
Note; I would like to expand our war museums to include a section for our, now gone or almost gone, heavily armoured melee forces.
We've improved our frigate designs and expanded our naval forces, as well as posting a few ships in Jamatun. The old galleons are now mostly serving as large transport ships, as we have developed ships of the line for pitched naval engagements and bombardment.
We've also modernised our infantry, now almost entirely relying on muskets in the standing army as ye longbowmen and swordsmen of olde have become light and heavy infantry. All musketeers are armed with sidearms, naturally, but the musket is now firmly established as the main weapon of our soldiers. Part of the militia is still trained to use pikes, though we are seeing an increase in the ratio of gunners to pikemen.
The age of sword and arrow is officialy over as the war museum adds more exhibits to what is now past - the full sets of armor, shields, longbows, large swords and axes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8AeV8Jbx6M&nohtml5=False
Our standing army:
4000 well equipped, mounted officers
4000 rangers(mounted archers, excellent scouts)
2000 Maargard
2500 Stormborn
3500 Blitzkriegers
14 000 Reiters
45 000 Musketeers
>Population:10 600 000 (69% white, 7 % chink,5% kafi, 8% hibibi, 4 % pajit, 7% darkskin)
>Colonials: 600 000
>Economy:Rich;Camark gold & silver coins,good international trade, postal service, National Bank, mercantilism, manufacturies, steam engine
>Food stockpiles:high
>Food production: high
>Political Stability: Medium-high
>A.Exploration
>B.Food production & Population growth
>C.Improve religion/culture
>D.Settle new lands
>E.Improve defences
>F.Pay respects
>G.Improve military
>H.Research science
>I.Improve a settlement/region
>J.Navy
>K.Improve economy
>L. Diplomacy
>M.Government & Laws
>N.Military actions
The Pajit have conquered the remaining spice islands and are licking their wounds for now.
>>46528126
>L. Diplomacy
attack the Ramki kingdom while the pajeet are weak
>>46528126
L
offer ramki vassalzation
>>46528126
>F.Pay respects
The end of an age, the end of the riddle of steel to be replaced in a frightening bark of smoke with the confusion of battle.
>G.Improve military
We must improve further.
>>46528126
F
N attack the ramki
>>46528126
N. Assault the Ramki while the Pajit army is elsewhere.
F.
Perhaps in the future we can make a new type of soldier. A solider with mighty yet light armor and have them be armed with blades that can cut down the enemy.
Rolled 42 (1d100)
Rolling for rivals' intelligence
>>46528126
>F.Pay respects
a good idea to not lose our culture would be to make fencing a national sport and to hold tournaments,we could invite Kaichou and sunset alliance champions and make sports a political tool.
>>46528361
Are you supposing we should create a martial Olympics? Cause i am down with that; archery, fencing, horse-riding, shooting of artillery or rifles and so much more good shit!
>>46528443
i agree
Aside from knowing that we're gearing up, the pajit can only guess of our intentions. They are largely occupied with the islands, as the campaign has been a logistical nightmare.
We've chosen the Ramki Kingdom as our next target. The city of Ramatpui near the border is guarded by a large castle. The capital, Hyulyu, is the largest port in the south and as such is defended by both land and sea.
A.Once again offer vassalage
B.Launch a surprise attack
C.Prepare further
D.Let the smaller tiger lie
>>46528443
That's pretty much the idea, although no actual battles, archery with different distances, horse-archery courses with multiple target to clear in a given amount of time, fencing competitions and musket marksmanship competition (with specific guns with longer barrels and higher amount of gunpowder) .
>>46528580
A or if not accepted
B so we get land
>>46528580
>A.Once again offer vassalage
With obvious undertone of war.
>>46528580
>B.Launch a surprise attack
Asking for them to be our vassals is surely going to fail and either way I'm relatively sure if they don't agree they'll try to ally Pajeets to be protected.
We need to strike directly, this is strategical position we are to secure at all cost to ensure a chance to completely crush the Pajeet menace.
>>46528580
B.Launch a surprise attack
>>46528648
this
>>46528641
Scaring people into an alliance is the best way to get backstabbed at the worse time.
>>46528580
A, while preparing for B if they do not accept
Rolled 16, 23 = 39 (2d100)
We've launched an attack on Ramatpui with our army as the navy moves to attack Hyulyu
Surprise is on our side - lowered DC
>>46528995
fuck
>>46528995
better lose a military roll against a less powerful opponent than a diplomacy one
>>46528995
Shit. Our bad luck has returned.
>>46528995
...or so we thought
our movement was spotted early on - both the army and the fleet were met by massed enemy forces!
The forward army(35k pros+25k militia) has encountered a large enemy force in the field - the ramki have massed what must be most of their standing forces to meet us head on as soon as we got out of the jungle. The terrain is on their side and the numbers are roughly equal, but we have a clear technological advantage - the enemy has some arqebusier corps, but at least half their forces are still spearmen, archers, cavalry, melee infantry and some war elephants.
60 000 vs 65 000
Mid range skirmish and enemy closing in - give me 2 1d100 rolls for each side. The battle has begun
Rolled 58 (1d100)
>>46529175
Rolled 64 (1d100)
>>46529175
so help me the elementals
Rolled 47 (1d100)
>>46529175
low roll pls
Rolled 52 (1d100)
>>46529175
122 - 99
We manage to organize our infantry lines and begin to rain fire upon the enemy. The advance of their infantry is slowed, but their archers and skirmishers do inflict some casualties
57 500 vs 58 000
Close range skirmish - again, 2 on 2
Rolled 16 (1d100)
>>46529356
Rolled 30 (1d100)
>>46529356
pls be high
Rolled 40 (1d100)
>>46529356
Rolled 100 (1d100)
>>46529356
>>46529401
Fuck..
>>46529401
YOU FUCK
>>46529401
>make a strategy that could make us fuck pajeet
>roll like a bitch when we have the advantage
>enemy crits
>Ramki wars were a mistake
Okay, in light of the enemies roll here>>46529401, i think we may need to call in every single troop we can. Don't see why we wouldn't but yeah, call in everyone, everyone!
>>46529568
we can't or pajeet will invade us during the war.
It's basic strategy if you make all your troop leave home you're just asking to get invaded
46 vs 140
As the enemy infantry closed in, limiting our musketeers even further on top of the terrain, the enemy's war elephants moved forward - these ones weren't planning on charging through us, though - they bore mighty cannons!
Our lines were cut apart by enemy fire and shock and we are being pushed back and encircled - we need to either hold on until reinforcements arrive or somehow break through this encirclement!
1 roll for us, 2 for the enemy
51 000 vs 55 000
Rolled 18 (1d100)
>>46529625
Time to roll a 1
Rolled 44 (1d100)
>>46529625
>>46529660
alright... i'll stop rolling for us
Rolled 50 (1d100)
>>46529625
How bad can it be?
>>46529625
>>46529660
>>46529681
>>46529790
Holy hell, this is an amazing adaptation.
having to roll for the enemy aswell.
I dig it.
will be reading the archives, but lets see how these wars go further.
>>46529790
18 vs 94
The enemy had disrupted our lines completely. Stoen, leader of the Maargard detachment volunteered to take a part of our forces and hold the enemy off while the rest retreat. As the only viable strategy, that had to be done.
General Luvdal has retreated from the battle along with the 40 000 men he has left. The enemy is left with 50 000 men and has captured 2000 of our own.
This marks the first defeat in a large, pitched battle for our armed forces. The Forward Army has regrouped with Central for now - they were moving in a column through the jungle.
The war has only just begun and we will have to act decisively to rid ourselves of the shame of defeat.
With this ends today's thread. I'll continue next week - do not lose hope - as a great man said - ""sometimes by losing a battle you find new ways to win the war"
I'm still up for a bit, but I'll be going to sleep soon - if you wanna talk about anything, feel free to.
>>46530109
How many troops can we send to reinforce in this war without depleting our defences?
What is our tech level like generally, how prevalent are the new steam engines?
What do our vassal nations, allies, enemies and such think of us?
>>46530305
check the pastebin
We had a standing army of 75 000 men, of which almost all were sent to the campaign and reinforced with about as many militia - the terrain we had to pass through meant we needed to split into a column of three armies.
Every able-bodied male recieves training to serve in the militia if need be - on offensive campaigns we send the best of the militia to accompany the armies and on the defensive whatever region is under attack marshals its own reserves.
To compare us to real world tech, we are around 1710 right now. We are the most advanced nation we know of.
Our allies are the Kaichou Empire(second most advanced nation) and the Sunset Alliance. If the war drags on we expect to recieve reinforcements from our allies and our vassal states - Waru Poto, Bei Poto and the Sigbru Kingdom.
We seem to have underestimated the capabilities of the Ramki - they are still using arquebus guns, bows and melee infantry, nevertheless. Overall their manpower reserves are lower than our own, as their population is 2-3 million at most. How much of that they would be willing and capable to commit to the war effort depends on how things go.
The Pajit have in recent decades advanced conciderably, attempting to catch up to us. 100 years ago we waged a major war against them and their allies, after which our relationships were good for a while. How they will react to this war remains to be seen. The pajit have a smaller territory than us, but their corelands are more densely populated - they used to be the most populous nation, but are now at most equal to us.
