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Jumpchain CYOA Thread #773: Over the Bifrost Edition


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>Last Thread
>>46472820
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>>46488568
Skies are blue, and the ragnarok that you dare to dream really does come true.
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Can we just talk for a second about how batshit insane Norse powerlevels are for a second? Sure it's no Hindu mythology, but people tend to forget Odin killed the giant whose corpse became the world with the help of two of his brothers. Thor is considered a WMG when wielding his hammer, and while he didn't succeed-he managed to wrestle death, nudge the Midgard Serpent and drain the sea to a degree noticeable enough to scare his host.

What I'm saying is-that ragnarok drawback where the fire giants break out and kill absolutely everyone probably looks like something out of Asura's Wrath.
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Dresden Files - Spirits of Intellect.

Bought one as a Companion, been trying to figure out what they do. Anyone mind filling me in? And would they lose anything if imported and given a human form?
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Jumpers, let's talk food. What food do you grow yourself, like farming or ranching, and what food do you hunt down in the wilds? Any recipes you'd care to share? We have a lot of cheap cooking perks, and even a cooking show jump, so you're bound to have done something.
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>>46488641
People also forget that Surtr created all the stars and his sword is twice as hot and bright as the sun.

Norse mythology IS related to Hindu, though. It didn't develop to be as silly, most of the time, but they share roots.
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46480746
>>Spatial Warping
>Not from X-Men. It's pretty similar to Vista's power from Worm, though. Just without the Manton effect.

A lack of any Manton effect makes it Omega level right there; you'd need at least to keep it from affecting only bits of people/things or otherwise weaponising discontinuities.

Otherwise there's a trick you could easily do with briefly making an artery have an interior volume the size of a swimming pool... the main reason for the Entities imposing the "Manton effect" rules on shard powers is that otherwise every parahuman becomes an instant WMD, which makes for very short conflicts.
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>>46488681
I'm a simple man with simple tastes. Meat, potatoes and maybe a little bit of starchy pasty every now and then. Though the meat of course varies.
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>>46488730

More importantly didn't Surtr set all of reality on fire besides the inside of a tree?
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>>46488675
http://dresdenfiles.wikia.com/wiki/Bob
Bob is one of the main Spirits of Intellect mentioned in Dresden. He's far from the only one, but he's a good example of what they can do. Long story short, he's kind of like a Wizard Computer. Dresden-verse magic is a complicated affair if you're trying to do things the right (slow) way. Certain ingredients in certain spells need to be altered if it's a certain day, hour, season and/or phase of the moon, among several hundred smaller factors that can make a spell more or less potent. A Spirit of Intellect is capable of calculating all that on the fly because of their amazing capacities. Many of them have been around for hundreds of years and have an even better understanding of Magic because of that.

Putting one in a Human body is something I don't think was done in the series. They would probably lose much of their power to tap into Magic itself and check on the evershifting rules of the Arcane, but their knowledge would still be intact.

>>46488681
Well, Harvest Moon was fun and now my Warehouse has a small Barn/Garden attached to it. That's good for the basics.

I got sick /so/ many times in Forgotten Realms trying to eat almost everything we came across. I've spent decades wondering what Hydra, Dragon, and Beholder tastes like, so I wasn't going to miss the opportunity. Deep fried Illithid was the favorite of some of my Companions, but I'm not a fan of squid.
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>>46488877
Not on his own, he and the other fire giants are the ultimate winners of Ragnarok, and overwhelm the nine worlds and burn them all to ash. Like you said, only the inside of one tree escapes, and inside that tree are a pair of humans (and sometimes also a revived Baldr). The implication being that they will begin the world anew.
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>>46488675
You can only get one by having a spirit sacrifice themselves out of love for you. When that happens she dies and impregnates your brain and you have to get your brain baby removed before your head explodes.
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The thread theme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woMDTn4xWrE
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>>46488681
I don't hunt food, since that's what replicators, geneforges and protocrafters are for*, but I did get Erana's Tree from Quest For Glory and its fruit makes a fantastic "apple" pie.

*(can I still call myself a vegetarian if my steaks grow on trees?)
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So I was just reading the last thread, and I saw someone was considering a Nightmare of Nunnally jump? Because if so, please do so, that would be amazing.
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>>46488681
Back when I still needed food, I just used my replicator.
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>>46488730
>CREATED ALL THE STARS

Wait, WHAT?! How big are Norse stars? I did not remember this part.

>twice as hot and bright as the sun

Motherfucker's giving everyone cancer just by fencing him.

>IS related to Hindu

Wait, what? I know there's some bugger called Dyaeus Pyetr or something who's the indo-european inspiration for Zeus among other thunder deities but I've never heard of any hindu connection to the Norse.

>>46488675
Think of their big trick as being, basically, a magical AI. A sort of living spell that can hijack other spells, analyse them, record how they work and replicate them with their own limited reserve of magical energy. Up to and including necromancy. They are, essentially, a kind of magical AI.

This, potentially, gives them a powerset that rivals a wizard's in sheer versatility. Possessing statues, guarding people from the ambient psychic attacks of multiple vampire nobles, generally kicking the crap out of the spirit world etc.

>>46488681
These days we mostly cook physical food purely out of the satisfaction of good craftsmanship. Which...actually makes Undertale monster food really appealling because it's exactly what we like-a combination of magic and spiritual energy materialised in an orderly form. That butterscotch pie recipe's good, but we actually quite like snail pie too.

You can make a bitchin' cider with some of Idunn's apples, some ambrosia, some peaches of immortality (and some Chinese ambrosia) and the Water of Life.

Also sometimes we use a combination of Pyromancy and Angel science to farm souls. Gone are those shameful, halcyon days when we would hunt and devour our food raw like some sort of animal! No, these days we're all about sustainable farming and fair trade when it comes to soul food of every flavour. It's all about giving back more life energy than you take, and jacking the Gates of Guf into local leylines as the spiritual equivalent of compost.
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>blah blah magical AIX2

What the fuck captacha, I thought I edited that damn post before posting. Work with me here, dammit.

>those goddamn pictures that DISAPPEAR WHEN YOU CLICK ON THEM

You are NOT a hero of justice, captcha
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>>46489154
>How big are Norse stars?
They're just burning embers high in the sky. It's best to think of them like meteors, more or less. One of the events of Ragnarok is that all of them will rain down onto the worlds.
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>>46488681
Let me introduce you to Skink Priest Iztac's Spicy Fried Mosquito Dumplings - a fun way to turn something there's too many of into something you need.

>INGREDIENTS:
>1000 mosquitoes
>5 cups of rice flour
>2 cups of water
>10 dollops of sour cream
>10 tablespoons of ground cayenne pepper
>5 tablespoons of taco seasoning
>1 gallon of sunflower oil

>INSTRUCTIONS:
>Mix rice flour with water until a paste-like consistency is reached
>Form rice paste into small shells
>mix mosquitoes, cayenne pepper, taco seasoning, and sour cream in a large bowl and crush mosquitoes until reduced to a slightly more viscous pastelike consistency
>fill rice paste shells with spicy mosquito paste
>close rice paste shells
>fry in sunflower oil for five minutes
>serve warm and salt to taste
>serves ten
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http://pastebin.com/EKWYfDAe

Burgli ruins/solves everything in Fallout and then has a ten year buffet while driving a salty serial killer more insane than he already is!
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>>46489154
Supposedly, Thor, Perun, Perkwunos, Taranis/Sucellus, and even the Hindu Parjanya are all connected.
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>>46489154
>Wait, what?
It's as you said, Hinduism and Norse Paganism are both Indo-European religions. The indo-european people, language, and religions all came from one ancestry.
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>>46488945
>head-pregnancies

brb, still laughing forever.

>>46488903
>>46489154
So say I made one into a massive, black, bald British dude, and he can swap between that form and Spirit form at will... On top of, say, making him a Mantra Cyborg.

I'm glad he's one of the more heroic of my companions, let's put it like that.
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>>46489297
It's like a chestburster, but it comes out of your skull and you cannot see it without the magic-vision
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>>46489254
Poor Burgli
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>>46489254
>that post-Dam roundup

Ten points to Gryffindor on a detail not many people would bother looking over.
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>>46489254
That was awesome. I love the Fallout-style aftermath coverage/epilogue, kudos!
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What is so dangerous about Gundam SEED? I keep seeing it referenced as terrible place to visit in a few of the gundam jumps.
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>>46489627
It's not dangerous, it's just poorly written and full of unlikeable mary sues.
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>>46489654
So its like being suck in bad fanfiction land? are the MS at least worth jacking?
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>>46489654
soo... It's just like Jumpchain?
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>>46489700
I guess? I don't remember anything I'd kill for.
>>46489702
lol so funneh joke!
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>>46489700
They have some strangely potent nuclear reactors, great batteries, a lot of over the top super weapons, and a quantum communication system small enough for mobile suit's to use them to control bits, or attack pods as the jump refers to them as. Though the DRAGOON System that is the quantum communication system is only 200cp to buy for your MS.
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>>46489700
Exactly. And the mobile suits are pretty cool. I'd suggest grabbing the Aegis or its upgraded form the Rosso Aegis, the Akatsuki, and the Strike Freedom. Aegis has a bunch of really cool minor features like extreme range of motion of its joints or beam sabers on every limb, the Akatsuki is immune to directed energy weaponry up to and including antimatter particle beam cannons, and the Strike Freedom is the final upgraded mecha of the Gary Stue protagonist, and is therefore incredibly overpowered.
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>>46489138
I'm not that anon, if there was one, but I might give it a shot after I finish my current project.
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What jumps can you spend 1000yrs plus in. I already know supreme commander and bartimaeus aiming for 1000000yr old jumper for shaman king.
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>>46489790
I think one of the backgrounds in Civilization does, or I might be misremembering.

>>46489718
Not sure which of us sargasmed harder there.
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>>46489700
Sure, I guess.

I don't particularly care for them since they're mostly all variations on "Gundam with a backpack", but they would certainly be worth grabbing.
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>>46489772
Thanks for considering it, anon. If you don't mind me asking, what project are you working on?
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If you count background stuff as part of your age, then the 800 cp perk in devil survivors 2 makes you billions of years old by the time the jump starts.
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>>46489790
There is a list, not sure how up to date it is but here. http://pastebin.com/7Dd8pZ8a
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>>46489762
Gundam SEED is another one of those jumps that I'd like to redo the mecha customization table for. It's kind of bare-bones, most of it is just a list of weapon names without any proper descriptions, and there are only a handful of non-weapon options. And I could get away with it, too, I wrote a fair bit of that jump. The jump maker asked for suggestions and then lifted the text from the posts responding to it word for word. Something like half of it is something I wrote that he was too lazy to expand into proper entries.
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>>46489881
Yep. Happy, I dunno, 8th billion birthday?
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>>46489910

Are you planning on ever doing a turn A gundam jump?
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>>46489254
Woo Burgli! I did not see that coming. Good stuff.
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>>46489938
Nah, Gundam Anon expressed some desire to do that. I might do a Gundam X jump, though.
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>>46489881
Damn it. My phone has a really annoying habit of deleting quoted posts. I meant to reply to >>46489790
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>>46489976

Just as good
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>>46489976
What is gundam X?
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>>46489976
Knowing how long my progress on 00 took, I'm fine with someone else trying their hands at X. If you'd like any help I'd be happy to provide what I can.
On that matter, Turn A might take a while. I may or may not try my hands at something shorter and non-Gundam related (how shocking) so I can get something out that's both nice and quick. Shite, this post was a mouthful.
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>>46490043

After war Gundam X
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>>46489870
I've got a few, but currently I'm working to finish up From Dust, and then maybe Spectrobes.
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>>46489976
Please maybe do it
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>>46490043
After War Gundam X. You know how at some point in every Gundam series some space asshole tries to nuke the world from orbit only to be stopped by the protagonist in his super-Gundam? Gundam X is a setting where the protagonist failed before the series even started. So it's a post-apocalyptic Gundam, like Fallout with giant robots. It's a pretty great series, has a lot of good characters and cool action scenes, but due to it performing worse than the studio wanted it got its funding cut and therefore ends kind of abruptly. The last third of the series wound up a bit rushed.
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>>46490111
From Dust? Haven't heard of that. Spectrobes, though, that I remember playing. Fun game. Take your time with your work, anon, make sure you have fun with it and that you're satisfied with your work, I'm sure they'll be great!
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>>46490111
>Spectrobes.
Gib beetle samurai tank
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>>46489910
I have mentioned previously I had planned on going back and redoing that, but ever time a cluster of idiots comes trotting out the 'oh SB sucks things' I sour to the concept, but you're correct it does need to be updated because its very barebones.
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>>46490351
People wouldn't attack your forum if its inhabitants didn't keep doing stupid things.
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109. Bartimeaus Trilogy
Origin: Drop-In
Era: Prague Falling
Perks: What's a True Name (-300), That Tickles? (-600), Breaker of Chains (-600)
Drawbacks: Rocks Fall, you may die! (+200), Wanted (+300)

I can run. I can run very, very well. And I don't have any reason to stay and fight, accept for a cat and mouse game through the streets of a recently conquered city. So, it's really something of a game. I can easily dispel most spirits with my upgraded Ace of Winchester, and I can survive or escape most things they throw my way. An evasion of a werewolf or wizard means I get a point, evading the golem is 3 points, killing means I lose a point, dispelling a spirit is neutral. The amount of opponents cannot increase a score beyond 5 points per event, nor lower beyond 5 points.

The golem was actually pretty simple to defeat. It turns out that they are not immune to repeated drops from very high places. I didn't even bother to figure out which wizard was using it to attack me. I never actually fully destroyed the thing, just busted it enough to make my exit. The werewolves were worse, though. I have a half-dozen ways to see the future and plenty of luck perks to compensate for my stupidity, but they got really fucking close to actually catching up to me more times than I can count. Dogs of war, man.

The spirits could be evaded, and I mostly disabled the wizards long enough to bid them a good day and make my way. It turns out wizards have superiority complexes, but they're academics. Something about spending years learning to enslave sapient beings to your will just makes you feel like you're better than others. By the end of it, holding back just got tiresome because they'd always act like they owned the fucking place. I mean, they do, but just because they think I'm some sort of spirit doesn't mean they get to be a dick to me whenever they want. It's rude.

Final score: -24. I am pretty good at wizard golf.
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>>46490351
The problem is, I have yet to see evidence that SB's jumpchain community does not, in fact, suck considering they drove away Babylon anon somehow and more recently one of them posted an unwanted edit to the Servent Supplement.
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>>46490427
I recognize the basic validity of that, people do stupid shit, but it doesn't change it does annoy me. I can't help it.
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>>46488641
this is probably the point I mention that the jump is not designed to give you the power to fight your way out of Ragnarok, it does give you several methods of living through it. Though late chain jumpers could go through it in a bloodbath.
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>>46490463
>they drove away Babylon
It was just one guy. In fact, all of the shit has been done by three-four people.
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>>46490469
That's fair enough, actually. I won't pretend this very site doesn't do stupid shit all the time.

All I'm saying is that the only positive contributions I've ever associated between SB and jumpchain came from people who primarily interacted with this thread rather than primarily with theirs and they've a whole slew of negative contributions to make me wish we'd never heard of you guys, and vice versa.
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>>46490351
Well, I can help, if you'd like. My comments were made in frustration assuming you had abandoned it, but if you want to upgrade it then I'd be happy to assist instead of bitch.
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>>46490463
Seed Anon's not a jackass, dude. Don't start demonizing anyone from there just because of two to three morons.
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>>46490516
On the one hand, I don't know enough about your community to objectively prove or disprove you.

On the other hand the sheer frequency of awful things happening makes me wonder.

On the OTHER other hand we did use to have Mommy, DDanon and Bancho before they got mercifully kicked out so-I guess I ought to give you the benefit of the doubt
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>>46490570
...Bancho's still around man.
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>>46490600
I can dream, dammit. And he did technically leave for a spell, it's just a shame he came back.
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>>46490600
Maybe he forgot he filtered him.

I do, sometimes.
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>>46490600
Yeah, but he's toned it waaaay the fuck down. Basically a different person now.
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>>46490570
>and Bancho before they got mercifully kicked out
No, anon, you're daydreaming again, that unfortunately hasn't happened.
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>>46490645
See >>46490628 and...>>46490633, actually. Damn it, reality crushes my dreams even in this imaginary choice adventure thing.
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>>46490533
As always i'm entirely amenable to help, let me see if i can find the last version i worked on and my image files.
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>>46490628
To be fair, like this >>46490634 Anon said, Bancho has toned it down considerably.

I expect him to fuck up eventually though. Sometimes I curse my pessimism.
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>>46490689
Awesome. And sorry for the angry comments earlier, I was talking out of my ass and saying things that were undeserved based on kneejerk assumptions.
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What's the best power available in the X-men jump?
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>>46490740
Love, anon. Love is the best power available in any jump.
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>>46490740
All of them.
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>>46490777
How do I weaponize this "Love"?
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>>46490740
Looking good in spandex.
Just kidding, you can't get that from the X-men Jump.
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>>46490834
>8-bit Theatre
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>>46490834
8-bit theater, The Power of Love.
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>>46490834
Embrace Love in its fullness - take it upon your very being and become Love - and you will have no need of weapons, for none shall be your enemy.

They may fail to understand at first, but soon they will see. It is pointless to fight.

After all, you love them more than anyone or anything ever has. In exchange for a love like that... who would not do anything you asked?

What monster or man, once touched by pure Love, could bring itself to resist it?
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>>46490111
From Dust, how are you even going to manage that?

But I'm SUPER fucking hype for Spectrobes tho. I don't even remember the plot or anything I just remember it being a fun game and never actually finding out how to do more than 1 damage with basic non-Pokemon attacks. Still beat the game, though.

Were Spectrobes sentient? Wonder if I'm going to have to save up another companion slot.
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>>46490848
No, but there'll be a drawback that makes you think you do.
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>>46489961
Thanks!

>>46489336
Don't worry! He got to munch on sea monsters for ten years! He basically had a vacation!

>>46489415
I actually had to stop myself. I've played NV to death so I could have easily written a novel on the dam's sudden , early removal.
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>>46490740
>X-Men jump
Did I miss a post?
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this is the latest version of SEED I have saved on my computer, obviously I had at some point started on fluffing out the weapons. I need to go find my pictures
Hopefully I will be able to make some progress on it tonight.
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Is The Polity jump finished? I just found it on the Complete WIthout Images folder but I dunno if it's a mistake since I dimly recall the maker planning on fixing something up
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>>46491048
They're very much animals, with basic intelligence. They got stored in the prizmodmajigger between battles.

Two Origins. Shaman and the Breath. Three scenarios, one that you must take as the Breath and only as the Breath.
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>>46489254
I want more. MORE, DAMN YOUR EYES.

>>46488976
> Not the true lord and savior of /jc/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOKn33-q4Ao
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>>46491577
excellent song, but I fail to see the connection
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>>46491338
I have now completed it to v1.0. Here it is. Dunno who put it on the drive but it wasn't me.

v1.0 –
Added researcher and frontier backgrounds perks and items.
Added a couple of companion options.
Pocket AI now capable of plotting U-Jumps, now companion for researcher.
Swapped Life-Coven Educated to researcher for obvious reasons, dropped runcible technician to 100/free perk for drop-in and added a new 200/100 perk for Drop Ins.
Added reward/note in Ending about stuff working/not working where there is no U-space.
I think I wrote enough shit in the setting Primer so people know what I'm ranting about.
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>>46491133
Okay, so some of my early ideas for the customization section. It's kind of stream of consciousness with only the barest attempts to put it into order, so there are a lot of gaps in it. I'm trying to go for something like what Gundam Anon did with 00, a few fairly generic techs but the majority being emulating iconic suits. I want to get an iconic feature from each of the original five Gundams, the Druggies' suits, and the top-tier being the Gundams around at the end of Destiny. Because for all that SEED suits are criticized for being gimmicky, they're COOL gimmicks.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1innh4spNCkPV611HvV18YgC-yptM8obb-6wwxNLt-p0/edit
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>>46489790

Lord of Light's Star of India drawback can get around a thousand years.
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>>46491111
Bruh.
http://pastebin.com/gPD0uENi
It was posted in one of the last couple threads.
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Would nerves of steel and skill at holding the line be an acceptable interpretation of Cadia with Icon of the Regiment from the 40k jump?
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>>46490570

It's just they have a couple of internet tribal types who have to wag their spears and don't want to be beholden to another tribe for culture.

But most of them are totally normal, and some of them have done some good stuff - they just don't make waves, so we never really notice.
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>>46491711
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1innh4spNCkPV611HvV18YgC-yptM8obb-6wwxNLt-p0/edit
Ok, I haven't actually read GUndam 00 I must have missed when it went up so i'll look at that.
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Does anyone have the Tom Clancy WiP?
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>>46492059
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>>46492196
thanks

edit: fuck image captcha
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>>46491649
So, whats up with the things in the brackets?
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>>46492296
Spoilers for the series, it looks like.
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>>46492351
Yeah, gathered that, but it seems to be invisible to me. Highlighting it does nothing.
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>>46492376
Try copy-pasting.
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>>46492376
Just select between the brackets, and copy and paste to a notepad or word doc to read.
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>>46490901

Unsure if reference or not...
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>>46492376
Just copy-paste it to somewhere else.
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>>46492412
>>46492411
>>46492421
Yeah, that worked. Thanks!
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>>46490740

tl;dr - they're all good. I'm impressed at the level of description, as it's fairly rare to get useful benchmarks.

Delta
Phasing - generous effect when phasing back in. Easy to turn into a weapon. Great defence and offence.
Precognition - spider sense is always good, and makes every power better.
Venom Claws - a little inflexible, unless you're good at not accidentally gutting someone. Can be replaced by equipment.
Wall-Crawling - effective mobility enhancement, but how often do you need to stand on the ceiling?
Bone Spikes - decent, but guns exist.
Acid-Spit - potent, but not very PR friendly, and probably a bit easy to fuck up.

Beta
Healing Factor - always good. But if they can kill you in the first place, then they'll just kill you harder. Inevitable bit where you get sealed in concrete and thrown into the ocean.
Energy Blasts - Powerful laser or kinetic gun. Probably hard to find an actual bit of equipment as powerful, but it probably exists. But this kind of thing is easy to pick up elsewhere.
Teleportation - fast teleportation is very good. Synergises well with precog and wall crawling/flight. Overlaps with phasing, but still good.
Animal Morphing - X-Men universe IIRC, does have the Savage Land, which is full of dinosaurs. So, this is fucking awesome. Without tropes though, you're fucked versus combat-ready humans. Good versatility.
Inorganic Form - walking brick. Might be interesting with bone spikes.
Technopathy - any setting with superscience or angry robots makes this gold. X-Men regularly deal with both.
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>>46492567
>>46490740

Alpha

Elemenal Power - common elsewhere, but this basically combines several lower-tier powers, so it's efficient. There's a typo here.
Weather Manipulation - really good if you feel like holding the agriculture of the world to ransom. Good versus cities. Expect to sandbag a lot.
Adaptive Evolution - similar to Karma Chameleon, but faster and not permanent. Always decent, but never great. It's better to aim for control of a situation than trust passively in your ability to adapt.
Super Speed - always a great choice. Speed kills.
Spatial Warping - excellent! Synergises amazingly well with basically every ability and team member.
Self-Molecular Manipulation - massively superior to the healing factor, as it isn't just a passive effect. Excellent.

Omega
Telekinesis - Most effects can be simplified or translated into terms of applied kinetic energy. Telekinesis is the ability to apply kinetic energy however you imagine. It's really quite bullshit.
Telepathy - Very good. Telepathy that is explicitly this good is rare in jumpchain.
Magnetism Manipulation - Magneto broken, plz nerf. Basically telekinesis, with initially restricted targeting. Restrictions inspire art, however, which is probably the best excuse for why Magneto pulled off that portal bullshit.
Gravity Manipulation - always good. Instantly negates any non-flying non-ranged attacker, and can easily mess with the ranged ones with a variety of tricks. Gravity oscillation can bring buildings down very quickly, and then you get into the really exotic fuckery…
Vibration Manipulation - decent, but a bit niche. A fancy grenade launcher will do most of the same things.
Energy Absorption - passive defences like this turn you into a monster of the week. If you're a villain, expect their powers combined to overload you and make you explode into a shower of friendship sparkles.
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>>46491649
Woot! Making a build...

How does the last paragraph of the Polity Agent perk work if you're not literally a Polity Agent?
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>>46491808
Cool, thanks. As for best power... depends on your goal(s). They're all pretty cool.
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>>46492585
>Vibration Manipulation
I'll update the description before I post the final version, since this is a holdover from before I switched it and Self-Molecular Manipulation.

It's way more impressive than that description, because at your peak you'll be like the bastard child of Whitebeard and Skye/Daisy from Agents of Shield, complete with everything from giant tidal waves to extreme fine control.
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>>46492585
Is sandbagging anything like jobbing?
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>>46492692
Jump looks great
can energy blasts get to pic related levels
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>>46492692

In that case, yeah. It's pretty much on par with the rest of the Omega force manipulation powers then.

>>46492739

Yep. Even when it's finely controlled, "weather" is not a super precise phenomenon. It's very... biblical.

Even if you can just throw a tornadoes at problems, if they're in a residential area, you hopefully don't want or need to.
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>>46492774
Is that the absurd thing where Superman's replaced the sun and is heating the earth?

Anyway, energy blasts can probably be made real big, but it'll be extremely draining.
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>>46492739
Sandbagging is holding back, everything from being slow while going up a hill to keep control to being lazy is sandbagging.
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>>46492656
Good question.
If you're not in ECS but take the Polity Agent perk, then you can either work with them as a kind of freelance contractor, or a sponsoring organisation (like a collection of high-level AIs, very rich corporations/ Separatists or the Prador king) is giving you an equivalent amount of authority.
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>>46492774
Im still amused they basically turned Superman into a super robot by basically giving him the Kaiser Nova

Like it's straight up the Kaiser Nova https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8IhwNIP07k
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>>46492845
Way out of date on DC stuff, but didn't he lose like 90% of his power right after getting that ability, then go on a cross-country road trip or something?
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>>46492895
yes bu t he's alright now
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>>46492895
According to >Wikiped he basically loses his powers for 24 hours until he recharges from sunlight
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Jump 12 Bartimaeus
Origin: Magician (200)
T&L: Sumer
Drawbacks (500): A jaunt through history, Rocks Fall, Wanted

Perks
Rules Lawyering (Free): Makes me great at tabletops too.
A Magician's Basics (300): In which I become smarter and a bit of a physical boost.
Might Makes Right (750): I just really want to summon spirits, okay?
The Great Enchanter (900): Items! Unfortunate they happen to be fueled by the suffering of outsiders.
So That's Whats In A Name (1200): It's a nametag for everyone.
No Restrictions On Age, Only Talent (1300): Hilarity will ensue in later jumps.

Gear
The Library (1500): Magical lore, and it shall be mine! Great tutor across jumps acquired.

Good thing I'm an immortal demon race or the whole age issue might be a deal breaker. I'll be wandering around ancient Sumer while fending off a huge rock lobster and dodging temporally displaced British lords and ladies and on occasion giving a practical demonstration of OOC evocation. When I get that squared away or reasonably handled, well I'm not really sure. Long time here to brush up on magic of all stripes, hang out with historical people, and generally scare small children by being a huge friendly demon man who can't be tamed like "other" monsters. Might help humanity out now and again, maybe.

To the jumpmaker, would taking A Spirit's Power let you see into the various planes? No age roll in the jump? Will summoning continue to function as it does out of jump? Does a lack of black tea fatally weaken temporally displaced British nobles like being on the physical plane is for spirits?
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>>46492841
Cool. Next question, given the ECS Epsilon-class Starship mentions "workshops and laboratories", how would those rate compared to the PSR (Physical Study & Research) Bot?
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>>46491649
Thanks! Have a build.

Drawbacks: Black Box, Dragon's Meddling, Spatterjay (1600)

Spatterjay, Year 3056

Researcher, Age 33, "Human"

Life-Coven Education (Free)
Unlikely Alternatives (1500)
Biotechnician (1200)
Prototyper (600)
Planetary Almanac, Local Edition (Free)
I need a sample, please! (400)
Enemy of my Enemy (200)
Let's be civilised (100)
Open Mind (0)

No U-space shadow, thanks. If a civilisation is advanced enough to meaningfully threaten our logistic chains, it's probably smart enough to reverse engineer the phenomena from any technology we field with it.

We have some ideas for modifying it to run on our own existing subspace tech. Digitsation network relays, dimensional mana leyline hubs, imaginary number quantum lathes calibrated with Correspondence-throwing all our reverse engineering tricks at the wall and seeing what sticks will be an adventure in itself.

We should have some words with the AI overlords to advise them on social policy. Specifically, have they heard the good news of their Lord and Savior? And how would they like a prepackaged Path to Victory? This could be some a NICE intergalactic hegemony if only we could squash those Separatists flat, make crab salad out of the neighbours and recruit the Jain. To that end, we're loaning them some of our digitised demons for a little while.

Really, our best option for dealing with those malignant AIs is to just let them capture one of our avatars, start analysing us and wait for the combined power of HBFS, Cyberdidact, Will of the User, Hardened Cosmosphere, the Shikiomi Mindscape and the Ouroboros System to recruit them as worshipful zealots carrying out our will.
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>>46492952
>spoiler

You could always try importing from China? There's been evidence for proto-tea being developed there from prehistoric times. They'll probably have called it something else, though.
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>>46492962
It's a fairly big difference.
The PSR is something you find on dedicated science research vessels, while the Epsilon-class is (essentially) an armed transport.

The labs on the Epsilon-class have a couple of standard (non-portable) autodocs, but they're designed for treating wounded or sick personnel or emergency quarantine, not xenoarchaeology.
The workshops are designed so that the ship AI can repair itself and its drones/Golems and produce personal equipment for passengers, not create groundbreaking new materials and nanotech.

Of course, nothing is stopping you from retrofitting the Epsilon's labs with a PSR or "proper" research gear.

>>46493230
Neat; sounds like Penny Royal will be extremely surprised.
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>>46493334
Is Penny Royal the nice kind of AI or more like SHODAN anyway?
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>>46493354
The words "complete disregard for inferior life forms" come to mind. It won't go out of its way to kill people, it just has a "these creatures are no longer relevant to me" attitude.
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>>46491649
What a coincidence that I just reached the space where I planed The Polity to go.
Jump #13: The Polity
http://pastebin.com/GaGJm7D6
This seems like a pretty nice vacation Jump, though the Princess Bride wasn't all that stressful to begin with. I'll spend most of the ten years wandering around, making my way as an explorer of the unexplored regions of the universe, along with trying to buy and/or download as many books, schematics, prototypes, and Technical Specs as possible for later use.
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>>46493444
Oh, sound like it'll get along with ASA well after that little misunderstanding and mindbreak.
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>>46492059
>>46492196
Speak of the devil, and I appear.

> Changelog
> Drawbacks added
> Additional Items and Perks
> Lots of grammer/spelling/rewording

> To Do
> Finish Drop In perks, Tango items, and others I forgot.
> Notes section
> Normal and Gauntlet Scenarios


It will likely be a couple of weeks until I get it fully finalized. As always, feedback is appreciated and taken into consideration. Ideas for perks and items will be shamelessly stolen if good.
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Are there any 'combine your powers' perks other than the one in Young Justice?

Does the one in Young Justice work with magic?

With the science perks from Transformers can you learn to make technology that can turn from cassette size to giant robot size?

Does your transformers body benefit from the perks you have? Things like strength or durability perk.

General question, do such perks work on cybernetics?

Do telekinetic perk stack by default, or do you have to fanwank it or use all of them at once?
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>>46493444
Question for the Jain Node purchase. Is it going to screw you over during the jump?
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>>46493996
This is in fact my final form
Sword art online
lets you combine alt forms and use powers in any form

Conjoined conjures
Cardcaptor Sakura
lets you combine multiple magic systems
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Ninja anon don't forget to add crystal style
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>>46493996
>Are there any 'combine your powers' perks other than the one in Young Justice?
Only a few that are restricted in some ways, Dual Art from Castlevania lets you combine spells together and eventually combine different magical and spiritual abilities together. Conjoined Conjures from Cardcaptor Sakura combines two magic systems you know together in part creating a new system from them, and grants you the ability to combine further magic systems together in a similar fashion. Temple of Thought from Binbougami allows you to combine spiritual non magical systems.

>Do telekinetic perk stack by default, or do you have to fanwank it or use all of them at once?
You can fanwank them stacking by default, though some would be kind of awkward to suggest combing that way. Such as being a psyker in 40k does include telekinetic powers, but it's really closer to being a magic system so saying it stacks with psychic powers is rather a stretch. Though most kinds of psychic powers have been treated in thread as just stacking directly, and we don't really have any perks that I can think of that would combine psychic systems anyway, nor can I think of any setting where such a perk would make sense.
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>>46491649
Can you buy any of the Companion options twice? E.g. if I wanted to have a pair of Bodyguards?
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>>46494004
Much like a grenade, it depends how you use it.
If you don't use it carefully and just stick it in your mouth and hope for the best, it will screw you over.
If you carefully analyse before trying to use it, like the canon "good guy Jain user", then then no, it won't.

>>46494255
Yes, you can buy companion options multiple times.
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110. Wuxia
Location: Generic Wuxialand
Origin: Drop-In, Age: 24
Basic Martial Arts: Aikido (-100), Drunken Fist, Southern Dragon Style (-100)
Advanced Martial Arts: Aromatherapy (-200), Pressure Points (-300)
Mystical Martial Arts: Adaptability (-400)
Artefacts and Allies: Riyu Jingu Bang (-300)
Drawbacks: Celestial Audit (+100), Dishonor to the School (+300)

I've missed the Celestial Bureaucracy, and still owe them a lot since Percy Jackson. It's been just a couple centuries over a millennium since I last had to deal with their special brand of anal retentiveness. I'd honestly started to miss it, just a little. Never again will I, because the voices I've dubbed Jammy and Fucko have forced me onto some sort of quest to regain the honor of the Drunken Fist from a very angry drunk that didn't get the whole Alcohol Tolerance part of the training down. Everything is an opportunity to fight with this guy, and he's not exactly shy about killing people.

Do you know what kind of secret killer technique a bunch of old men come up with after several jugs of rice wine? I'm disgusted, horrified, and intrigued all at once. I'm also pretty grateful that I have redundant organs and life support systems installed, because he tried using it on me. It hurt anyway. It hurt a lot.

I chased my foe across all of China, voices yapping at me the whole way. When the time finally came, I did the worst thing I could think of: I removed his body's ability to get drunk and gave him arthritis. Sobriety and pain, forever. Also, some jailtime. Maybe he'll get better, if he focuses on healing rather than hurting.

Anyway, Chimmy was my best friend here. He knows a lot of the style's around here already, and the only thing stopping him from being a Youxia was that the genres we were in didn't support it. He's a millennium old Kung Fu master with the blood of Sun Wukong in him and a hysterically narrow focus on friendship, sex, and his martial arts training. I benefited a lot from his tutelage.
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If you buy the Dumb AI from Halo, what happens if you use Cheat Mode on it from Minecraft?
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>>46494603
>a bunch of old men come up with after several jugs of rice wine
>their special brand of anal retentiveness

OH GOD NO
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>>46489280
Freaking Perun as well? Seriously?
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>>46494947
Supposedly.
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>>46494986
On one hand, wow. That's a lot of distance to cover.

On the other, does actually make sense. Slavs couldn't just appear out of nowhere.
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>>46493625
... wow. I've only seen a couple of the Ryan movies, but it looks like you're much more of an afficianado. My head is full of painkillers at the moment, though, I'll read through it some more later.
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>>46489790
relating to this, how valid would you guys say it would be, if someone was to stay behind in wrath of asura, and then use the Generic Fighting Game jump as a Street Fighter jump to get out 870 million years later?
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>>46492952
yes, the age roll thing wasmore an oversight than anything else. I'll take care of it as soon as I go back to it after getting done on my Vamp Diaries jump.

ASP lets you do anything a spirit can do, so that's a yes on the planes thing

summoning, yeah. you can fanwank it as causing some 'turbulence' if you want to make things harder, but it comes rather firmly under 'jumpchan makes it work'
the tea thing...sure, if you want. Why not.
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>>46496160
Completely invalid, for multiple reasons. Jumps aren't linked unless they specifically say they are. Just because there's a noncanon crossover between Asura's Wrath and Street Fighter doesn't mean you can get from one jump to the other. Even assuming that you were treating that as canon, you wouldn't be in the Generic Fighting Game jump, you'd be in Street Fighter. And it wouldn't matter if you did somehow get to the Generic Fighting Game jump, because by choosing to stay behind you would be giving up your status as a jumper, and wouldn't be allowed to continue on your path. You'd just be in Street Fighter then, no more multiverse jumping.
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>>46496239
huh? it says right there in the Asura's Wrath jump that you can get out through the Street Fighter jump, if and when one is made. All I'm asking is if it's possible to treat the Generic Fighting Game jump as a makeshift Street Fighter jump.
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>>46496245
Huh. Missed that bit. I'd say the answer is still no, though. Generic Fighting Game is too generic to count. Also, that clause is stupid in a lot of ways, why did Muyo Anon put that in? You shouldn't get to stop being a jumper then get it back later.
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>>46496245
Even when a Street Fighter jump is made, Muyo has no authority to make decisions on other jumps like that.
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>>46496160
No, Asura's Wrath states it has to be a Street Fighter jump. GFG isn't that.
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>>46496207
age roll is in place now. 1d8+10 for mortals, 1d4+1000 for spirits
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So. Is anyone familiar at all with Tower of God?

1. The wiki is a little sparse but-has there been any clue on how the Thorn Forged to Kill Kings was created? Apparently there were rumors Enryu can create life from shinshoo-which sounds like a dead ringer for either Geneforge or Metaphysical Biology-but nothing concrete. Assuming you bought the Thorn, what other ideas would be a good way to tinker with it? Given the nature of shinshoo as a sort of ambient life energy, would using Temple of Thought to fuse it with AT-Fields help any by sourcing S2 Engines as a template for replicating the Thorn's funtions?

2. One of the reasons we invested in both biotech and combinative technologies is because we're looking to fuse an Exsphere with onesuch replica. What kind of consequences could come from an item that induces a berserk state being combined with an item that nulls emotions? And could it possibly interfere with the recombinant item's development into an Angelus Stone?

As for why we're doing this-suffice to say after fusing the Sanakan Soul technolog with the Demon Summoning Program, we're looking for other ways to upgrade our summons apart from granting them the powers of a Level 9 Safeguard since despite being incarnated aspects of reality, SMT demons seem to be vulnerable to attacks by Japanese children.

Okay, so Protag was Abel. Atsuro was a techie, maybe he learned how to use the COMP really quickly. But there's no excuse for being beaten up by Yoohoo, dammit
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>>46496239
>Non-cannon
>Ending places it in the same universe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYIdGNEvr0s
Uhuh...
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>>46496376
And yet no other source ever acknowledges that. It's there as a treat, like Tekken x Street Fighter, not to seriously state that they share the same universe. Pretty sure that the entire planet being ripped apart or smashed by giants or having gigantic battles would not result in the world of street fighter, which is geographically identical to our earth.
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>>46496376
I'm not seeing any Street Fighter, here. Some aesthetic similarities, but that seems more like a cute little shout-out that confirmation that it's actually in the same universe. For one thing, that's "870 million years later", and Street Fighter, being in a world like ours, didn't have humans 870 million years in its past.
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>>46496399
870 million years, dude. Lots of time for things to back to how they used to be.
Regardless, verification by multiple sources simpy isn't needed. The canon ending is proof that it is the Street Fighter universe, it doesn't require yours or mine or anyone else's approval. Is a fact of canon.
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>>46496416
We didn'teven have dinosaurs back then. Hell, at best we had trilobites.
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>>46496425
>>46496429
and we're all ninja wizard fighters today, aren't we?
oh wait...
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>>46496425
Doesn't look like it to me. Aside from a female cop with a similar hair style to Chun Li, I'm not seeing anything else Street Fighter here.
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>>46496425
>>46496434
What's your proof of it being street fighter? Chun Li making one appearance, in which she's incorrectly portrayed? She's an interpol agent, not a beat cop in New York. It's there as a cameo, not canon.
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Getting a little off-topic here, guys. Not complaining, just feel it needs to be said.

>>46496425
Well, setting >>46496416 aside the fact remains jump histories are considered strictly separate from each other unless there's a +0CP drawback denoting continuity with each other. And even then, your background resets your age so you can't carry over age.

And as said before-Generic Fighting Game simply isn't Street Fighter so that's a double moot point.
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When is this thing ending?
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>>46496437
wow. I don't know what to say to that...
if you're going to be willfully blind...
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>>46496447
Well, give us proof anon. All you have is someone that looks like Chun Li, but very evidently is not the actual person.
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>>46496446
What thing? Jumpchain? The Street Fighter argument? The thread?
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>>46496446
>>46496444
yeah, okay. When my chain gets there. I may go one way or the other, but I won't bother anyone here anymore.
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>>46496463
All of it.
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>>46496447
I'm not being willfully blind, there's no intentional ignoring details here. If I am ignoring something, I'd like you to point it out to me. All I'm seeing is that initial shot of reincarnated Asura punching a dude being posed similar to the Street Fighter 2 opening cutsceene, and the aforementioned Chun Li cameo. Neither of those are necessarily anything other than a little nod from the studio. Is there something else that I'm missing? I genuinely want to know if there is.
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>>46496465
I was about to point out >>46496285 made my point more sufficiently than I ever could but eh, if you're just keeping your chain to yourself nobody cares what you do, go nuts.

>>46496469
When you grow a pair and shoot yourself in the head, then.
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>>46496429
We didn't even have those. 875 million years ago would be right in the middle of the Tonian period of the Neoproterozoic Era. Multicellular life didn't exist until the Ediacaran period, some 200 million years later.
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>>46496488
You also need pointed out that people can't rule on jumps of other people. Doesn't matter that it says Street Fighter, long as Muyo doesn't make Street Fighter, he doesn't get to say you can use Asura's Wrath to go there.
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>>46496469
The chain never ends. No matter what your final goal is, there is always another link to be made on the way.
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>>46496494
I think part of the reason was Muyo was planning on doing Street Fighter before he left/vanished/was eaten by a grue.
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>>46496522
Could be, though I never heard that he was planning to do it personally. Last I heard before he left, it was Rebuild that was next up. Either way, doesn't change the outcome.
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>>46496554
I recall there actually being quite a few jumps that he had claimed, including God of War, that he did actually hand off to Red before he turned out the lights. Though I don't know how much it came up in thread I do recall talk about it in IRC.
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>>46496588
I absolutely don't remember any of them so-it seems like a moot point when Muyo himself has clearly left for greener pastures.
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>>46496625
It's a shame. The Rebuild jump was going to let us buy the AAA Wunder. I wanted that thing. As confusing a mess as 3.33 was, the Wunder was a damn cool ship.
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>>46496646
Well, you know how it is. The path less taken and all that. I assume Rebuild of Evangelion is open to anyone to take now it's obvious Muyo has no intention of ever coming back? I mean, it's almost been a year.
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>>46496522
That guy from the Undersiders sure gets around. Are we sure he's not secretly a Companion of Val's?
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>>46496686
>undersiders
>Val

I don't get it
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>>46496695
I've no idea what he's on about other than maybe that Val is from Australia.
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>>46496695
Grue is also the cape name of a parahuman in the Worm setting who uses darkness powers in a fight. Val's jumper is a cannibal. Thus, my lame attempt at a joke.
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>>46496695
She's a CanniVal
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>>46496686
He's actually not named after that kind of grue, at least in-universe. "Grue" is an Old English word for "unnerving", thus the word "gruesome", so according to Wildbow that was the name Brian chose because he wanted to have a touch of class by using archaic words. Of course, Wildbow is well known for making shit up on the spot in response to fan commentary, so the reference probably was what he was going for from an out of character perspective.
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Is anyone making a Demonbane jump?
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>>46496769
No. Nor should anyone.
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>>46496769
No and even if it was made, it'd be a end jump for certain. That's not even including the sequels.
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>>46496769
No, for the same reason there is no I Am The Benefactor Now And My Former Benefactor Is My Waifu Who Receives CP From Me jump.
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>>46496799
If there's a Dragonball jump there can be a Demonbane jump
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>>46496823
...

...I literally don't understand your logic there. Or why you haven't responded to the other people who have told you no.
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>>46496823
Dragonball jump is also an endjump. Your argument is invalid.
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>>46496840
So make Demonbane an endjump.
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>>46496769
a long time ago I claimed the then abandoned Super Robot Wars jump, I messed up pretty bad and the anon who made it wound up coming back because of this, I'm bringing this up because I've got a reputation for being one of the most power-hungry folks in in this thread and I was worse back then, but even
I was sure to include the note "No Demonbane whatsoever ever!" It's a bad idea and make every other jump irrelevant, you know what a run becomes if you allow Demonbane, it's going to be all super robot jumps so people get better at piloting super robots so they can take their super robot and import it into Demonbane to take on that universe.
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>>46496843
Well, I'm certainly not going to do it. What little I've heard of that LN sounds like it has no appeal beyond giving powerlevelfags an aneurysm and taking power fantasies to their logical extreme.

But given you're only replying to select posters I'm guessing you're fishing for responses so it doesn't really matter.
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>>46496823
I don't recall anyone in Dragonball ever breaking barriers holding the multiverse apart so they could attack their infinitely-large foe with every version of them that could exist anywhere. Granted, I haven't watched the movies.
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>>46496865
Goku's hair turns red, then blue, and it still isn't enough to beat a walking Siamese cat god. Also Frieza turns gold from doing pushups and loses because he forgot leg day again
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>>46496888
also a little reminder about that cat.
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>>46496915
mind=blown
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What are some jumps to get immunity to precognition from?
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>>46497164
Worm has one so strong you're even resistant to mundane attempts to predict your actions. I know there are a lot of others, but that's pretty much game best.
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>>46497458
that's the free one right?
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>>46497458
It's being changed in the update, so I'd rather not rely on that one. And before you get all up in arms, this was talked about many months ago now.
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>>46497511
Spanner in the works costs 600cp. The free one only protects against entity/shard precog, so it's limited to in-universe threats like Contessa.
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>>46497164
DnD MindBlank spell.
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>>46497164
Dune has a good one too. It's a bitch to get, but protects from prescience and similar methods used, in past, present, and future.
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>>46496328
Synchronizer be BS, yo.
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Is there anything else like Macguffin from Generic Dungeon Crawl that lets you negate a drawback or gain more points in another jump?
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So, I was going through last thread, noticed a bit about the Maker post-spark reward from Darksiders... And checked the jump. I am now confused.

Why do people latch onto making new universes, instead of creating new laws of reality, or unique forms of magic?

I mean, making new universes is already something Oldwalkers do natively, without needing any extra powers.
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>>46497805
It doesn't negate a drawback through, just allows you to circumvent it if you're creative. You can do that with any powers that would be applicable.

>gain more points in another jump?
No. Just no.
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>>46497870
because most folks aren't creative enough to devise such things.
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>>46496328
>1.
We don't really know yet. Early on the translators were translating the extra info that gave details on the world, following the trend of korean authors not putting the important background info inside the actual story. Then translation teams switched and new ones didn't give a fuck about translating it.

What little we do know of Enryu is that he is a "Min-maxer" who can create life due to bullshit regarding shinsoo unique to him. Considering the thorn's origins are still a MYSTERY, it is still going through bizarre power ups, and the unlikelyhood of learning anything anytime soon...wank and hope for the best or learn korean. Or make a friend/acquaintance who'll look things up for you as a favor/on the cheap.
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so...a Vampire Diaries jump? Anyone interested in collaborating to make one?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1poGn9F4Zj9BD4aTjGqyQDI3QuslCeSwwA20tmUY2UB8/edit?usp=sharing
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>>46497983
link allows edit, so plz play nice
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>>46497983
Isn't that the twilight-lite CW show that only teen girls watch?
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>>46498017
twilight-lite? yeah. only teen girls...meh, it's not ENTIRELY unwatchable. Cool powers, though, hence my interest
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>>46497870
Much as I am loath to agree with the thing that responded to you first, he's right. Most people just are not freaking creative, and so the 'make new universes' is the biggest bit.

And then you have others that just try to squash discussion on it entirely because "it's post spark nobody cares about post-spark it's lame and wanky."
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Been playing Fates and really enjoyed it, which gave me some motivation to create this.

As a warning, there are most definitely spoilers for the game in here.
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>>46498131
There's also that big thing about it being completely made up as a bonus too. Like pretty much all of the post spark bonuses in Darksiders.
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>>46498212
>Been playing Fates and really enjoyed it
Brother!

And this? This is so, so beautiful. Writing now.
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>>46496416
This feels like denial.
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>>46498017
I don't watch the show, and I haven't read the books, but if anything twilite is the lite version of the vampire diaries, considering those books debuted in 1991. But whatever, semantics.

And if you're actually curious, then 20% of the viewrship are apparently guys, and 80% are adults.

If you're not curious.. can we not say something vaugley dismissive when someone offers to make a new jump for us? Not trying to start anything, or spark an argument or whatever - I'm just tired and faintly annoyed and therefore figure rambling on the internet is a good idea.
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>>46498212
Huh, that's a change from the image jumps. Still, looks nice!

>Paths

Can you just...sorta try to convince everyone to do your own thing or strike out on your own or are these the destiny kind of destiny? And if destiny is destiny, can you change it with a destiny-immunity perk?

>Dragon blood

Exactly what does "altering battlefield conditions" entail? Is it a strategising skill, or an actuall buff/debuff magic?

>Spendthrift

To clarify, does spending more coins at once boost your stats or does it extend the duration of the original boost? Hypothetically what if one had a bag of limitless gold coins?

>Grisly Wounds

Does it simply make your natural weapons more durable? The rest sounds like things teeth & claws do normally anyway

>Astral Realm

It's a little unclear; for future jumps does it give you the innate ability to travel into otherworlds or just insight into what the best ways to get their like existing portals?

>Einherjar

Are they sentient? Exactly how good a replica are they? I don't know what a manakete is. How involved and complex is the creation process in making them?

>Cherry Blossom Grove/Black Rose Garden

If you purchase both, are they a combined unit, separate or can you choose?

>4th Verse

Can another perform it, or only one with the Singer background? Hypothetically could you record it and have it played on a device, or must it be a sentient (biomechanical?) AI that gives the song its' sacrificial power?

As a whole it looks really cool, though. I've never gotten into Fire Emblem but this definitely gives a feel for what the game must be like so-nice work!

>>46497949
Ah. Alright then, back to the drawing board. Best to wait and see how things play out in canon, and there's surely plenty of other options to think of in the meantime.

>>46497670
NO
EXCUSE
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>>46490463
Were you gone for a moment? We had a couple of threads where there was little ranting about this shit even when we did talk about SB.

Are you leaving again anytime soon?
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>>46496680
He outright said he'd still make that one.
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>>46497870
Aesthetic ethics. As a Jumper, I've come to value the unique beauty of the universes I visit, and their uniqueness. Modifying the laws of those universes by adding my own would be like gilding the lily. Better to start fresh.
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>>46498449
Oh look, still no proof. How about that.
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>>46498212
>[Free] Deep Trouble:

I laughed.

This looks good, though I still think the game is crap.
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>>46497983
Here's the thing anon, JC doesn't use collaborative open google docs to make jumps. If we collab, it's in private.
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>>46497870
Personally I think it's kind of oool-ish because in my mind the Jumpchain multiverse/omniverse/thing isn't set out like it is in MtG and therefore I'm not becoming an Oldwalker (and thus will not have their powers).

Largley this head canon exists because I know almost nothing about MtG/Oldwalkes, don't particularly want to learn, and the things I do know don't make for an interesting story in my mind.
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>>46498212
Hey come on, it's Fire Emblem, there should be waifu options.
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>>46498481
Forgive me for using common sense but-it's been almost a year and he's shown neither hide nor hair of himself. Isn't it reasonable to assume he's moved on completely instead of letting the jump stay in the limbo of not being made?
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>>46498556
>wanting waifu options for Fates

But no-one's worth it, anon.
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>>46498575
No
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>>46498580
Are you serious? You get two cute big sisters and two cute little sisters who aren't actually related so it's okay who want your dragon dick, and you're telling me they're not worth it.
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>>46498589
Why not? I'm not saying this should turn into some sort of race but-fuck's sake, 8+ months seems a bit extreme to wait for something on a Lithuanian engraving website.
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>>46498604
Yes I'm serious. I just don't much care for any of the characters. And there ARE options, they just aren't specific to waifus. So just use that. Though I did make that post before I saw-

>[+0] Avatar

Which makes everything easier. Just wait until Fake Dad calls, then blast the throne room with enough holy magic to level the fucking castle.
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>>46498638
The only option I see is Peacekeeper that only lets you companion the butlers/maids.
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>>46498651
There is Loving Companion and Fated Companion for Hoshido and Nohr respectively.

>>46498212
>[+500] Silence and Blood, Madness and Pride

I'm not really seeing any incentive to take this. Nothing in the Jump is expensive enough that you would need both 500 DBs, and the other is much more enticing just for the chance to kill Grima again.
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>>46498686
I see. There's two at least. Too bad no bulk buy though.
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>>46498451
>Paths
The paths aren't so much about destiny as what choice the Avatar character will make without intervention. No destiny perk required, but their initial choice could cause tensions with whichever family/families they reject and make it harder for the Avatar to recruit them to their cause. (Such recruitment probably being impossible without intervention.) Basically the choice may set things in motion but there is not destiny keeping it trapped there.

>Dragon blood
Replacing areas of loose sand with grasslands, creating winds to deter flying foes, drying out a river to let your troops cross it. Mostly terraforming effects that can be used to strategic effect.

>Spendthrift
You can only spend one coin at a time for the boost, the perk won't take another until the duration expires. I envy your hypothetical bag of infinite gold and hypothetically you'd probably get the normal advantages, as much as I'd like to rule that magic gold wouldn't count.

>Grisly Wounds
Not only does it make your natural weapons more durable, but more likely to leave lasting injury. Essentially it lets you do greater damage than normal with your fangs, claws, or tentacles.

>Astral Realm
Unfortunately it's more of a navigation perk than any ability to instantly access other worlds. It will help you find the portals and safely get to destinations using them.

>Einherjar
They can understand and carry out orders, but any emotion they show is just preprogrammed based on whatever they're modelled after, they don't actually feel. A manakete is the usual term for draconic characters from previous installments in the series. While quite complex having the perk creating your own Einherjar should be intuitive, though having a model to base them off of is likely necessary.

>Cherry Blossom Grove/Black Rose Garden
Your choice.
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>>46498686
>just for the chance to kill Grima again.
Nevermind, didn't see the part about only using powers from the jump, there is no fucking way I'm fighting Grima who is holding a grudge and Crazy Dragon Dad without Dragon Slayer Magic.
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>>46498451
>4th Verse
Only those with the singer background, there may be a genetic trait required. It needed the singer to share Anankos' bloodline as well as have tremendous strength of spirit. If it requires a life but there is likely [magic mumbo-jumbo] preventing non-living things from using it or

>>46498686
>Silence and Blood, Madness and Pride
I suppose I can understand that complaint. Personally I thought writing from the perspective of the soul portion being led back to interact with soulless portion would be interesting. Any ideas for how to- >>46498759
So you think they're on equal footing in horribleness?
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>>46488765
I don't know if it's really worth a bump. Maybe you could pop someone's artery, but in the same timeframe, most of the Omega powers would let you take out a dozen othér people just as easily.
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>>46498811
I haven't gotten to the end of Fates yet, so I don't know how bad Crazy Dragon Dad is as a final boss. Although you would have to account for the general nerfing to your characters in Fates. As it stands now, I would say Grima is worse.

... Oh you meant the Drawbacks! Oh no, Worlds Collide is very fine, I was just saying /I/ would never take it.
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>>46498841
Perhaps the issue is that the other powers can be resisted by durability, but this one is basically an instant kill to anything biological?
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>>46498857
...yeah, that makes sense. I just woke up, so I think I misunderstood what they were saying.

I'll add a note that you can't affect living things internally.
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>>46498841
>take out a dozen othér people
Shift around a wide, thin plane of space at about average neck height, instantly kill or cripple everyone of average height within range, which the perk suggests is at least a mile (maybe more, since you're narrowing the other dimensions of the ability to boost the radius). Adjust height as desired for varying levels of damage and maximum targeting.
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>>46498857
Sounds more like worm wank to me.

>>46498889
So it can shrink them but not say cut them in half?
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>>46498944
The way I had imagined the power working originally, was that even if you did something like that, they'd just be twisted weird, but it wouldn't kill them and they'd pop right back to normal once the effect ended.

>>46498975
Yeah.
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>>46498889
Maybe just make it an omega level power and put something else in its place? I really like it as is actually.
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SlowAnon here, was busy for the last few days, but still plodding along with the Generic Sburb jump. Got a few more of the Perks fully written out (only one and a half Background to go), and the beginning of the Notes.

Got notes for items and background/intro description too, but those aren't really in any shape to ask for comments.

Any comments/suggestions for changes and things to add/calls for me to be burned at the stake?

In particular, I still don't have an idea for the Harley/English based Background. Which is mostly based on actually being good at the game, if that helps. Anyone have suggestions for that?

Second draft is here:
http://pastebin.com/AtJ2XpEi
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>>46499108
>In particular, I still don't have an idea for the Harley/English based Background.
Fuck. No idea for the Capstone for that, I mean.
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>>46499006
I don't think it's on the level of the other omega powers. I think it fits in right where it is.
Sure, it's powerful, but so is weather manipulation, super speed or self-molecular manipulation. Lots of powers are supremely useful/powerful if you use them creatively.
It's not on the level of Xavier-style telepathy with a several hundred mile range though, or pretty much any of the other omega powers. It just doesn't have the raw power to fit into that category.
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Anyone play jump chains as a completely vanilla jumper? Building to survive seems the most fun and engaging IMO.
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>>46499006
Sorry, anon, but I probably won't go that route. For one thing, I'd have to think of another power for every category (and two for Alpha) go balance it all back out. And for another, if it can instagib anything biological, I know someone's going to scream at me about it being an OC powergrab
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>>46498450
oh boy. just checked out the series after what you said...and wow. unless the covers have been updated recently, event the covers of twilight series are taken from it.
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>>46499195
Explain
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>>46498738
Duly noted, thanks. Anyway, time for a b-

>spoiler

-let us never speak of those again.

Drawbacks: Dreams Fade Away, Alienation, Poached, Inexperience, Bane: Unlucky (1600), Avatar

Path: Conquest(?)

Lord, Age 20

Rolled Windmire

Dragon Blood (Free)
Dragon Hex (1500)
Unity (1300)
Trust (1100)
Dragon Dragon (800)
Einherjar Shop (600)
Light Meal (500)
Dark Meat (400)
Fated Companions: Camilla, Elise (300)
Black Rose Garden (150)
Peacekeeper: Felicia (Free)
Dragon Dragon Ball (100)
Dragonstone++ (0)
Armed: Lance (Free)
Outfitted (Free)
Deep Trouble (USE PROTECTION, ALSO NO)

Well...we won't lie folks, this particular array of choices left us feeling left out. With Macrossesque fluffy tail origins abounding, we figured the closest thing to suit us would be to become some sort of conqueror-

-only to find out that, apparently, the concubines are bullying our older sister.

Which is Ą̵̴̡B̧̕͡͝S̢͢͝͠͞O͠҉̧L͏͘͠҉͡Ú̀͟͝T͡҉E̢҉̕̕L̴̨̨͘Y҉ ̢̕͟͡Ǹ̕Ò̢͘T̸̡́͜ ̵̢͟͟O̴̧͘͢͢K̛͡A̸̕͢Y̷̕.͏҉. We are going to put something HORRIBLE and VIOLATING in whatever the concubines eat and drink, and leave one just alive enough as an example of what happens when anyone fucks with our immediate family. And maybe, if we're feeling nice, just alive enough to move some of her limbs and facial muscles.

Then we are raising mom's ghost to yell at her for mistreating our little sister.

Inform her who some of our OTHER parents are.

Threaten her with an eternity in hell if she damn well doesn't spend the rest of her afterlife making up for being a shit mom.

(Cont'd)
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>>46499108
For the Harley/English Capstone, would a particularly powerful Classpect Power make sense, given Jade's Billard Ball Planets and Jakes Hopesplosion? Also, how does alchemization work in later worlds?
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>>46499490
And then we're having a shouting match with dad for letting this happ-no dad, we don't fucking care that you're a puppet for a crazy dragon, we don't give a shit about your little bitchfit, what's important is that our OTHER father literally creates and destroys millions of worlds because he wanted to control them all ÁND H͝E͝ ͝W͏ĄS STI̴LL̡ Á B̵ET̛TE͡R RO͝L̢E̢ MODEL TH̵ÁN̢ Y͠O͞U EVE̢R ͏WE͞R͡È. ̴DO͘ S̢O͞M̷ET̀H̕ING A̸BO͜U̧T IT, O͜L̵D͟ ̕M̸AN.͘ W̧E̸ HAVI̴NG̛ A BO̵S͢SFI̵GH̡T͜ ͟NOW ͟O͡R ̨W̕H̵AT?! ͢WE ͞ALRĘADY ҉AT̡E͏ Y͘OU͞R̛ ̡STÚPID͠ ͘HEX ́IN ̷T̴HE̡ ̛W͠HI͟L͏E ̢YOƯ WÈR͏E B͠USY̷ T̀RY͞ING̨ TO͜ ͜ȨX̨PLA̛IN̛ W͜H̡ER͠E͢ ͠TH͢E̴ F̷UCK̢ ̡YOU͏ LE̢ARǸE̢D TO͢ ͘B̕Ȩ A PA͘R͏EN̨T͟ ͟YOU S̛ENI҉L̛E̛ O͝LD͟ ̀RE̕P͜T́IL҉E͜.͟

And then we're just going to keep shouting and shouting until the fine folks from Hoshido come over to see what the noise is or dad decides to shut up and listen, whatever works.

And then we're just going to cook everyone a delicious BBQ combining elements of Hoshido and Nohr cuisine that will utterly delicious and make everyone sit down and listen, or at least give up when they realise they don't have anything that can actually hurt us meaningfully.

And of course it won't be that easy but if we were the kind of being to give up just because of little things like bad luck, we wouldn't be in this convoluted quest to protect one set of siblings' smile and calm down the other set of siblings enough to cook them something nice in the first place.
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Also whoops, it's Unity OR Trust! So-Trust it is.

On the bright side, that frees up one Dusk Dragon Pendant and one purchase of Harvester.
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>>46499534
>YHVH is a better father figure
...actually, in this case, he really is. Huh.
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>>46497870
>tfw been trying to drum up all kinds of plans for building my own planet post-Spark using knowledge and techniques gathered and refined over about 50 worlds so far
>the Spark itself would trivialize the effort

Well, I feel dumb now.
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>>46499494
Maybe... I'm hesistant to do that, considering both of those are caused by outside influences, and Jade atleast is quite a bit out of bounds from everyone else... But if I figure out how to word it to not be overpowered, it could fit in pretty well.


As for Alchemization in other worlds... It should work normally... I'm going to have a two tiered item to buy the machines necessary, one with the basic set (which will probably be free, since it's a necessary part to start the game), and one with a fully upgraded set.

Restricting it doesn't seem to make much sense to me, even it does allow you to smash things together and duplicate them freely, mostly because combinations are not 1to1 best of both combos, and because prices in Grist scale upwards depending on power and general importance of the item. You'd still be expending resources, in some cases ridiculous amounts of them.

Not sure how you'd be able to resupply on Grist in other worlds, which could be a problem, even if you have pretty large amounts in the endgame. I might include a perk allowing you to gather it from enemies in other jumps, or include that in something else, or simply have it as a thing you get post-jump... What do you think?
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>>46499746
It occurs to me: Alchemization is based on a 64 bit code. This means that there is a finite number of things that can be alchemized. No normal Sburb player could ever make them all, but a jumper has plenty of time and (if you include those options for future Grist-harvesting) plenty of resources. Who will be the first to create all 9,223,372,036,854,775,807 items in the game?
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>>46499746
Well it was a "nobody can think of anything else" answer, so do whatever you want. For the grist, I like the idea of it just being a thing that happens post jump.
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>>46499741
To be fair, Oldwalkers have to be pretty careful in balancing all the magic to actually make a stable Plane that doesn't need constant maintenance to not explode.

And even then the best they've managed was solar system at biggest (Mirrodin), and that was done by a golem with two individual Sparks and equal proficiency with all colors.

It also appears to be really, really hard. To the point that only three Oldwalker have actually been able to pull it off over enormous amounts of time.
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>>46497870
Well, I for one don't play or follow or even have any interest in MtG, so I don't actually know what a discontinued aspect of it is capable of. When it was explained to me, the person described it as basically "cosmic multiverse levels of magical power and also you're basically impossible to kill", so that's what I use as a basis.
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>>46499746
I can't for the life of me find it on the wiki, but I remember that Jane had a gadget that could recycle Captchalogue cards into the Grist that would be needed to make the item they store at the cost of a scaling amount of money, accepting any currency. You could give us one of those for free at the end of the jump.
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>>46496476

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMFzW3y--j4
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>>46499801
Fair enough. I'll put it down as a maybe, and continue with the rest first. Perhaps inspiration will hit. Thanks through.

Will go with it being a thing that just happens then. Makes more sense than a cp tax for it now that I think on it more anyway.

>>46499781
I'll leave that as an exercise to the science jumpers.
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>>46499907
...That would actually work really well, yes. Thank you, Anon.

I think I'll go with that instead then.
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>>46499952
Alright, finally found it in the archives. It's the Gristwidget 12000. And I was wrong, it doesn't accept any currency, just Boondollars. But that could be changed as part of typical Jumpchain fiat.
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>>46499494
>insists those things are things the player won't get
>then asks for the player to get them
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>>46500052
I wasn't saying that the players should reach Jade's level, just that there is a trend that the Harley/ English Family has powerful Classpect abilities, and that no-one could come up with a good capstone for them, so I said the first thing that came to mind.
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>>46500115
* ideally someone will come up with a better one, but even if that doesn't happen, the perk would probably put you closer to Jake than Jade.
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>>46500052
I'm assuming she meant something inspired by it, not actually going ahead and handing ridiculous overpowered stuff out.
>>46500115
which appears to be the case.

>>46500033
That could work, yes. Through maybe just fiating away the boondollars requirement would work too. Depends on how abusable it would make it, I guess.
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>>46500033
>>46500197
Through, now that I think about it, Server players could recycle objects too... So the monetary rquirement was mostly for the ease of using it on the go, which would be pretty necessary anyway for a jumper in other worlds.

Perhaps give them a Gristwidget 12000, allowing it to work on any currency instead of just Boondollars, and allow the Warehouse to be treated as the area for stuff to be recycled and manipulated as a Server Player stuff too? Again, post-jump, of course.

Does that seem reasonable?
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>>46500380
Sounds good to me. You should probably specify if the Warehouse can be enlarged that way, though (I suggest not).
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>>46500380
>>46500427
Yeah, I wouldn't make the warehouse able to be enlarged that way. I like the Gristwidget idea, but definitely not affecting warehouse sizes.
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>>46500427
>>46500587
Yeah... Good point. Enlarging the warehouse would be stupid to allow, consider the kids' houses are ridiculously tall, actually being seen as towers in space several times their planet's diameter... Through trusting scale in Homestuck is kinda stupid.

>After the jump, you get a care package containing a special Gristwidget 12000, which can recycle Captchalogue Cards and their contents back into Girst for a scaling amount of money, which can be any currency instead of only Boondollars. as well as disk labelled Sburb: Warehouse DLC, which when installed on any computer will allow you to manipulate the interior of the warehouse, as your Server Player would be able to manipulate your house while playing Sburb. This includes the ability to move things around for the price of some of your Grist, the ability to build walls and such, and perhaps most importantly, the ability to recycle objects into Grist to be used for other purposes. What it doesn't include through, is scrolling out to look at the outside of it, or enlarging it by adding extra rooms.

How does this look?
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>>46500663
Yeah, that looks great. Deals with the issue well, no ambiguity that could be misinterpreted.

While we're talking about Sburb, how will prototyping work? Can we choose what the other players in our session prototype their Sprites with?
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How smart do you have to be to make a TARDIS I know you have to have a knowledge of temporal mechanics and block math
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>>46500729
That seems like it'd be up to them unless you're the server player and actively throw dead/doomed stuff at the sprite. Though you could technically choose for them, since it's your story and all that.
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>>46500821
I just want to make sure I get something cool-looking out of it. No tentacle seppuku clowns, if possible. Maybe prototype them with something that has a full-body covering, so the enemies aren't all just palette-swaps, too.
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>>46500748
Well...
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>>46500748
Presumably you'd also need ALL the bio-science perks, since TARDISes are alive.
And ALL the dimensional tech.
And some superstructure-making perks, judging by the scale of >>46500890

Some anon was talking about how they made a magic!TARDIS using mostly Harry Potter magic, by reverse-engineering Time-Turners the space-stretching magic.

That might be easier.
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>>46500949
That sounds like some massive Potterwank.
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>>46501060
Well I ain't the one who did it. As far as I know Time-Turners only go backwards, so I have no idea how the anon figured he did that.

Besides, this is all massive wanking. 3 years and 773 threads of excessive wanking.
The chafing is real.
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>>46500663
>Homestuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKk87Pk7qg0
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>>46500890
>>46500748

Keep in mind the Eye of Harmony is the crucial part that allows them to time travel and also something that doesn't exist outside of the DW multiverse and-yeah, you're better off focusing on something productive.
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>>46500729
Excellent, this'll be in the Endings bit then.

As for Prototyping, you won't be able to choose what others prototype their Sprites with through jump mechanics, no. As >>46500821 says that's their choice, but you could simply chuck stuff in yourself either through being the server player, physically going there, or just persuading them to use certain things.

You will however, be able to import Companions as your co-players, so that shouldn't be much of a problem.
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>>46501115
My dick exploded months ago.
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>>46501176
Exploded or "exploded"?
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>>46501151
Alright, then. Guess I'll have to import a full party, get my prototyping done that way. Because I absolutely adore the "make your own enemies" idea that Sburb has, and kind of wish it was a thing in an actual game.
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>>46501276
For what it's worth, the first three imports/oc creations will be free to make sure you have enough players.
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>>46501192
Both. Made a real mess.
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>>46501305
Excellent. I will have fun with it, then.
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>>46501148
The Eye of Harmony is just the power source right I'm sure you could use something else to power it like the micro-verse battery from Rick&Morty or any other number of convoluted devices a Jumper can build
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>>46500890
Wait, is that how big the Doctor's TARDIS is?
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>>46501148
You could always steal the Left and Right Eyes of the World from Bayonetta.
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>>46501370
Bigger, potentially. It's modular, so it could store a lot more rooms than that.
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>>46501577
Nope, Red's allergy to jumpers doing anything useful struck again.

>-You cannot take the true Eyes of the World out of the jump with you, being tied to that reality.
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>>46501977
Wow, who would have thought that the pillars of reality are connected to that reality. Such an inconceivable idea. Clearly the only explanation is the jump's author being a jerk.
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>>46501977
You can still do it, no one can stop you. Just don't expect any respect or admiration for it.
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>>46501977
Do you just set here, constantly waiting for someone to mention something vaguely related to Red so you can complain?
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0.6: Fixed some minor typos, split Pandora into their proper two versions with their canon capabilities but no innate power boost and adjusted all relevant perks as a result, added new companion perk ‘The Prototype’.
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>>46501977
Just like that shitty Fallout nerf nobody asked for.
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>>46502108
what Fallout nerf
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>>46502045
And then you get shat on for daring to go against the word of their beloved God-Empress.

>>46502040
>implying jumpers need to follow reality rules
>not breaking them down like you should
Not everyone likes to be stuck in the mud every single time, anon.

>>46502136
The one in the original.
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>>46502083
Is my build going to have to be thrown out now?
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>>46502165
I mean, isn't this a WIP? Considering it's not even 1.0 yet.
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>>46502165
I don't know what your build is, anon, so I can't tell you. I'm sincerely sorry about that, though. These updates should hopefully slow down or stop soon now that I hopefully have less to wrestle with.
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>>46502204
It'll never be 1.0 bro.

>>46502206
What specifically did you change about other perks?
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>>46502136
In the original Fallout all your powers get stripped down so you can't do anything. Just Wild Card being a shit as usual.
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>>46502216
Pandora was split into two versions instead of being mishmashed together. Which one is more cost-efficient depends on the Generation of Angelroid you're using, and you might actually have some points leftover depending on what you pick.

This also means restrictions on Pandora and who gets what version have all been eased slightly on Heart Bell and The Maker. The Prototype also lets you have an OC Second-Gen Angelroid companion with V2 installed.
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>>46502065
To be fair to anon, he's got a point. She's been putting so many limitations in her jumps lately that it feels like she's trying to force everyone to street level, which isn't cool at all. I thought the nerfing was supposed to be in the actual nerf jump, not everywhere but.
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>>46501305
Out of curiosity, if you were to be the Prince of Doom, destroying decay and rules, and prototyped your Heir Companion with your dreamself and went God Tier, or otherwise fused after jumping Devil Survivor, would you be the Fresh Prince Bel who is a Heir?
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>>46502259
Get out.
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>>46502083
>a scanner can’t gain a thermal setting if it lacked it already, but its
range and the time it takes to find things will decrease, etc.
I'm pretty sure you don't mean the scanner's range decreases here?
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>>46502273
The nerfhammer seems to be sneaking its way in via typos, now. I'm going to fix that. It should be 'increases', yes.
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One Piece Retcon 2 Fishman Boogaloo:

19 years old
Pirate Crewman 50
Jaya Island
Nakama
Swimming
Navigator
Will of D 450
Fishman (Great White Shark) 750
Haki 1350
Conqueror's Haki 1550
Average Weapons
Dream Crew 1600
Leeroy: 22 years old, Pirate Captain, Combat Training, Swimming, Will of D 400, Commanding Presence 550, Tinkerer 850, Fishman (Thresher Shark) 1150, Reinforced Clothing 1200, Quality Weapons, Wanted 1000, Limbless 800
Warlord's Fury 1300
Government Crackdown 1000

Part of doing a lot of runs in a short space of time is you end up with a lot you're not happy with.

My own build is the same as before but for fishman form and drawbacks. Fishman is now a Great White for the teeth, gills, blood sensing and general badassery. Drawbacks now include Donquixote being after me and the government also being after me. Honestly struggling as to how a first mate in a fishman crew became the most wanted man by the Navy and developed a grudge from Donquixote. My current theory is that the World Government got confused due to me coincidentally being in the same place as Dragon a lot and I knocked a jug of piss onto Donquixote.

Leeroy's build got more obviously changed. Didn't really like just sticking on the giant size thing as it seems like a bit of a waste of points and it'd be too weird being on the crew of someone 50 ft tall. Instead got him Commanding Presence, Tinkerer and a reinforced pirate suit. Also swapped out one of the missing limbs Wanted as he would end up being so anyway. Also made him a Thresher Shark fishman as I figured in One Piece that would probably amount to him having a nigh-indestructible sword thing on his tail.

Was half considering taking the plot drawback as it'd be a laugh whenever it wasn't incredibly dangerous but I figured I'd just dip in and out.
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>>46502230
...wasn't that two years ago? Are people still angry about it? Why?
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>>46502318
People are still bitching about Reborn and it's been two years since that too. When people hold grudges here, they hold them forever.
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>>46502318
One of the fundamental differences between doing regular CYOAs and doing Jumps is that you keep the stuff from your previous jumps. Combine that with the fact that people love Fallout and there was never really a good justification for the nerf and it felt like WC forcing how he thought the whole thing should work when he should have just been trying to represent the setting as best he could in the established format. It didn't have to be a very special jump, it could have just been a good one that everyone liked.
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>>46502318
Bitches gonna bitch, man..
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>>46502264
Would it helped if I phrased it as " If you fuse with another player, do the titles stay seprate ( Prince of Doom, Heir of Life) or Combine (Prince-Heir of Doom-Life)?
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>>46502389
You realize Fallout was one of the first Jumps ever created, right? We didn't have the same standards we have now.
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>>46502372
I'm honestly still wondering why there's no companion option. I mean, that was Reborn's biggest theme, The Family, and I can't bring mine in?

Not bitching, just perplexed as fuck. Is the author still around? 'Cause I'd like an answer from them about it.
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>>46502158
Funny you say that.

The MCU's Infinity Stones, though nerfed, continue working post-jump even though by mainline Marvel canon they should lose all power.

Use Rick and Morty or Supreme Commander as power generation for magitech. Incidentally, Harry Potter's system would work for the mystical side of this. Use the Power Stone to augment your energy sources, then channel the actual magical effects through the Reality, Space, and Time Gems in order to boost th- why the fuck am I engaging a shitposter?
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>>46502158
>And then you get shat on for daring to go against the word of their beloved God-Empress.

Why do you so desperately need the approval of others? It's a single player imagination game, anon.

I ignore shit in jumps all the time. Pokemon Trainer? Not doing that first. That's fucking crazy. Fallout nerf? Fuck that, it's a standard jump.

With that said, the original idea of Jumpchain is that you're the object of amusement for an absolutely omnipotent being.

How entertaining do you think you'd be if you never had to fight or engage in any sort of struggle by wrenching top-tier stuff from high power jumps?

There's also the logical factor: if you're ripping seriously important metaphysical structures out of a universe, how are you surviving this? How do you keep reality from collapsing in on itself with you still in it?
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>>46502389
I don't ignore a lot of Jumpmaker rulings, but I do ignore that one.

And that's all there is to it. I don't bitch about it because WC's proven he's not going to change it. I never undertstood why everyone else can't just do the same and stop shitting salt everywhere.

But then I remembered where I was.
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>>46502432
I just want to say that it's almost surreal to see people talking about hamstack again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es5mh7pBeec
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>>46502454
Please go on, I'm interested and taking notes. I'm the anon who suggested the Eyes before I went back and reread that they weren't available for the Adventure.
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>>46502448
Mib's jumped ship and Red's a nerf herder. Pretty sure you're fucked.
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>>46502432
That wasn't the problem and you know it.
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>>46502439
Which is why it's stupid that we still have to put up with it now, despite nobody being on board with it.
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>>46502492
So, I take it I either fanwank or just lie down and take it then?
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>>46502439
Don't really see how that's relevant.

Even back then people knew that you kept stuff between jumps and people got annoyed about it then as well. It's not like it was a choice made out of naivety, was just a sort of attempt to make the setting a sacred cow. Too special for jumpers to come in and ruin it all with their out of setting nonsense.
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>>46501148
There are far easier means to travel in time than the Eye of Harmony, it's more that the eye is a plot dues ex machina that allows the Time Lords to control time and aspects of the universe.

The Eye is the reason they put the Lord in their titles. But if you wanted to make a Tardis you won't necessarily need it.
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>>46502523
Pretty much. Unless you want to encourage her to fuck with jumps that aren't her own again. You know, like everyone did with Warframe.

I'm sure that will go over well.
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>>46502448
Reborn was originally made (not particularly well) by the anon that goes by the same name. Red then rewrote it on account of its bad writing, which set off a huge shitstorm and created the "you can't do anything with a setting after somebody calls dibs. No, not even then" rule. Problem is, IIRC, Red wasn't very familiar with the setting and instead. Sadly she won't touch the thing again for fear of setting off another shitstorm, so it's likely to stay that way.
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>>46502562
We've been over this before, mib put Warframe up for adoption. Don't be a douche.
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by the way, to those new here, is this red person also behind the...ugly pile of shit that is the doctor who jump?
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>>46502065
You know he does and you know the more you people feed him the more active he is.
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>>46502608
No.
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Fixed the typo. That was very silly.
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>>46502562
>>46502598
That bad huh? Eh, fanwanking it is then.

I'll just need to figure out a balanced way of sorting that all out then.
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>>46502487
Oh. Sorry.

You take the space and time manipulating properties HP magic already has, and augment them by directly feeding energy from other sources.

It is done via magitechnology specifically because the MCU Stones are a bit of a pain in the ass to work with physically. Literally so.

The Stones are added as extraneous energy sources and transfer points in order to give the power a mystical/reality warping kick, increasing the effectiveness of whatever magic aligned with them is done through the energy you're generating.

I suggested Rick and Morty and SupCom because they have some of the biggest out-of-the-box power sources in the chain.

You can substitute HP magic with any system that supports time-space travel/manipulation. I suggested it because that kind of fuckery is fairly common and shown in canon to begin with, so building a ghetto TARDIS isn't out of line.

I'm too lazy to actually put this together, much less do anything interesting with it, so that's it.
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>>46502611
The only other time I've been a part of one of these arguments was when I joking around and asked Red for a Nerf ETA. Still waiting.

It's just do bizzare to me how often this gets brought up.
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>>46502645
He's here constantly. As you said, this is his only life because he's some sort of NEET. Lately, people have been pathologic about feeding him so he becomes more active and brings in his autism more often.
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>>46502644
That's pretty cool actually, I'd imagine that grabbing a Union Core (or two) from Aoki Hagane and an Intelligent Device (or a Unison Device if you're serious) would help as well. Considering that the Devices can manipulate and regulate the magic that go into and contain the whole thing, along with calculating what needs to go where to move along one axis of space-time and the dimensions. The Union Core for the ridiculous amount of space-time calculations needed (considering the Fog Fleet freaking weaponizes it) and semi-mundane tech that needs to be maintained.
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>>46502645
Because she hasn't done the right thing and left to go die in a ditch.

>>46502608
No, she would have made it worse.

>>46502598
So because she thought it was bad writing, she gave it even worse writing and shat all over it. Yeah, real smart that one.
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Someone should just redo all those jumps.
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>>46502864
Someone should redo your life so you don't end up in this pathetic state.
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>>46502509
I actually don't have a problem when a jump goes "no, you don't get to ruin this universe with all your worldbreaking powers you collected over 300 jumps. Go use your head for a change, shithead."

Just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean everyone shares your opinion. And it's actually a pretty well-made jump otherwise, with interesting origins and perk selections for a wide variety of playstyles. Prettier than 95% of other jumps too.

If i had to chose between "another jump made like Fallout, with a nerf for your time there" and "oh look i slapped down some shit in wordpad and no-one else is allowed to touch the setting except me, but i'm too lazy to actually finish/improve it" i'll pick the first option, every time.

So you'll have to put up with 10 years of being just very awesome instead of utterly world-breaking. I don't particularly care.
I'm just happy that someone took the time to make a well thought out and pretty jump for a setting i like, because i've actually tried making a jump before and it's a whole lot of work.
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>>46502897
I absolutely hate when the shitposters bring this one up, because them and people like you get engaged in a stupid, pointless argument.

The truth is, there are a lot of us who hate it and don't speak up because it's not being changed and there's no use complaining. Only the shitposters bother now because they know it'll cause drama. Many of us do indeed feel that stealing all of our powers defies the point of jumpchain, which is keeping your powers between settings and out of contexting shit like that. Fallout misses the entire point of jumpchain and is a bad jump for it. It's just that it won't change, as I said. Don't think that because the people you argue with are usually shitposters, that only shitposters think Fallout is crap. That's not how it works, not with an argument this old.
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>>46502897
I agree. Jumps should be more than a powergrab, even if it makes things hard.
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>>46502929
Not stealing all of your perks =/= a powergrab.
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>>46502928
>Fallout misses the entire point of jumpchain and is a bad jump for it
I thought the point was to entertain the benefactor, not to just steamroll every setting and turn it into Parking Lot No. 424 only to turn around and go "what else can I fuck up, you should be entertaining ME".
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>>46502959
No, the theme is to jump between settings, and to be able to do out of context things like using pokemon in harry potter. Jump-chan herself is a frame device. She exists to explain how you're getting this power and what set you on this path.
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>>46502959
's what drawbacks are for, Anon.
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>>46502978
Well shit, I guess pokemon had it all wrong then.
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>>46502959
Not him, but it's both.

One's the in-universe reason, the other is the meta reason.

That people unironically ignore half the premise, to the point of telling others off when they acknowledge and try to deal with the fact that they may no longer be entertaining, is not due cause for shitting on the other half.
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>>46502992
You're projecting things into pokemon it doesn't say, I'm afraid.

Anon, getting upset at other people for not liking something just makes you look petty. You're as petty as the people who won't stop whining about it, years later. Both of you are problems, they won't stop making the environment worse by harping on a sore point, you won't stop complaining people play it differently from you and are 'doing it wrong'. Neither of you should be acting how you do.
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>>46498212
Sing with me, a song of wisdom and pain.

Neutral/Revelation: In the end, could there truly be any other path?
Lord: Or any other life, for that matter? I do find myself addicted to being a protagonist at times.

[200] Demoiselle: Obligatory appearance perk. Hah!
Dragon Blood: Enter the dragon! Or not, considering.
Nobility: To never stop moving, to always be better. What better gift can one ever ask for?
[200] Unity: ANY skill, you say? Ohoho...
[300] Dragon Dragon: And there I am, manakete twice over. That's strong, in more ways than one.
[600] Einherjar: Oh dear. Oooooh dear. Now, imagine copying and distributing those... Yikes.

Deep Trouble: I... Don't actually know whom I prefer, especially with the path I am taking. That'll take some time to figure out.
[300] My Castle: Oh, this is VERY pretty. So many uses, especially with it being a home for inactive companions.
Peacekeeper: Hello, Azura. Let us sing together?
Dragon Dragon Ball: Good thing I picked up Dragonstone+ in Awakening. Available here, too.

Avatar: Like I said, probably addiction.

[+100] Poached: Why hellp there, battle experience for my troops!~
[+100] Obligation: I WILL protect those precious to me. And if that means holding this land together... Well.
[+200] Legacy of Lies: You know...
[+200] Dreams Fade Away: ...This is basically canon. No harm done. And hey, "conversion on individual basis" is a better deal than I normally get.

~~~

...So! Things will be proceeding so smoothly that Azura will call me a pervert at some point. Well, as smoothly as a Revelation path can get. Which is... Not quite. This will be FUN.

Also? Einherjar SCIENCE, to make the power cap on cards higher. High enough. A new level of magpie-esque shenanigans is what it is.

Thanks, stupid_dog. 'Tis another experience to further the enjoyment.
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>>46502897
Problem is your right as far as not everyone agrees its a bad idea, but everyone who follows the rules HAS to follow it that way instead of doing it there own way.

So you end up saying not everyone agrees with him, but they have to agree with you in order to enjoy the jump.

And its not like you can't add an easy option to turn that off for those that don't want to do it YOUR way.

That is the main problem with people like you who claim that power grabs are bad and you do it all for a story or an interesting way to do things, someone disagrees? They are shit out of luck.
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>>46502298
They Live

Alien 200
Situational Sharpness 300
Master of Disguise
Manipulator 400
Mastermind 600
Powerhouse 900
Communications Watch
Locator 1100
Bollywood Fighting 1000

Went for the Alien tree for the most part in this.

Got Situational Sharpness for sick burns.

Master of Disguise I'm not sure quite how it works, I'm guessing given the setting that I don't have to do anything to actually make it work, neat either way.

Manipulator does what it says on the tin. Can't hurt.

Mastermind is another intelligence boost, used to not take any of these. Now it seems like I take nearly all of them.

Powerhouse gives me more contacts in each jump, pretty nice, have something similar in Firefly so I'm going to pretty much always know a guy.

Communications Watch is great. Teleporting to a specific place and hijacking radios is great for free.

Locator means I can find whoever within 400 meters which could come in handy with the headhunter combo.

Bollywood Fighting would matter more if I intended to get into a lot of fights. Plan is to be an Alien for as long as it's useful and then change back to human forms when they get found out. From there it's a case of enjoying the late 80s and much of the 90s, probably putting this in quite early. Hopefully the aliens come back but if they do I can just turn my coat/face again.
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Has Val ever stated what happens if you break your noble phantasm?
Is it just gone forever or would you get it back next jump?
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>>46503042
People fanwank shit all the time. The issue here is a single line ("Your powers get nerfed while here").
Just ignore it if it bugs you that much, and i'm pretty sure nobody who actually matters will give a single fuck because JC is singleplayer anyway.

I don't care about the powergrab/storytelling divide. But calling Fallout a bad jump when it's actually one of the more well-made ones?
That's a pretty great way to scare off jumpmakers. In this case a jumpmaker who clearly put quite a bit of thought and work into making a jump that fit the setting, giving a nice variety of options that fits the lore and making it look good.
THAT'S a problem, not people who can't get over their OCD enough to either deal with the restriction or just ignore it.
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>>46503176
Frankly, my dear, if Wild Card was going to be scared off, it wouldn't be because of this. It would be about the multiple multi-thread shitstorms over Fallout when it was new. It would be over replacing Dresden Files, which drove off another respect jumpmaker and lasted five threads or so. It would be because of that argument over Chrono Trigger I forget the motivation for but lasted two threads. But this? This little tiff is absolutely nothing compared to all those things that didn't drive him off.
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>>46503176
>Just ignore it if it bugs you that much

Doesn't the same thing apply to you? And no, the issue here is that you defended the design choice and now suddenly "well do what you want anyway" which lets face it, we can fanwank all we want but the rules are once you do that the thread doesn't want to hear about it.

So really you want to defend jumps made this way and not hear criticism, so you tell them to fanwank something and then basically to stop complaining about it. While saying "yes this is how jumps should be made". If its all fanwank then why do jumps need to be made a certain way in the first place? Is it any worse to add a 0cp options to turn it out of a gauntlet? Or in theory turn power sets up a whole way.

If this wasn't an issue no one would of gotten pissed at miscellaneous meta or the speed force. But it takes two to tango and you could just as easy fanwank whatever you want.
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>>46503248
It was him updating it with changes to the science background after everyone took it for a certain perk, IIRC.
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>>46503248
And what about other jumpmakers who want to try something, but end up not doing anything in fear of getting shat on?
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>>46503345
We're on autosage on page nine. Nobody new is reading this. Everyone old has already seen it a thousand times.

>>46503343
Right, that's it. He nerfed the background pretty heavily which always leads to huge arguments.
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>>46503248
So yet another namefag thinks he's better than everyone else and can spread his shit with impunity. Not that there are any consequences, because the fanclubs come out of the woodwork to lap his shit up regardless.
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>>46502628
It it advisable to return heaven's lost property to the heaven's lost and found?
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>>46503411
>stop liking what I don't like!
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>>46503411
Oh god, not you again.
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>>46503378
Yes thankfully we don't have shitfests like this over the same things often.

[/sarcasm]
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>>46503420
Does Heaven even HAVE a Lost and Found?

This is actually a very good question.
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>>46503457
Rarer than you think, actually. It comes in spurts.

>>46503461
It should if it keeps losing its property.
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>>46503411
So how was you little vacation? It seems like you were gone for like 3-4 threads.

I miss those times already.
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>>46502928

...you realize that it's pretty close to the original vision of Jumpchain right? Where you had to actually respect the setting.

It may have developed beyond that, and nobody denies that it was heavy-handed, but your personal view of "what jumpchain REALLY means" has no primacy.
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>>46503461
I want more card game jumps with cute card art.

Where's my Valkyrie Crusade jump? It's not lewd just because the girls are wearing ribbons, honest!
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>>46503411
Not all the namefags are bad. Look at Valeria and NuBee whenever they show up.

Now assholes like Red? THEY can go fuck themselves.
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>>46503494
>Respect the setting
>Here anon, take your ak47 into pokemon and use Savant to fight against pokemon and criminals using your gun kata. Don't forget to respect the setting!
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>>46503494
Neither does claiming to represent a majority on jumpchain, but people do that anyways.
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>>46503411
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Must we do this yet again?

At this rate, we're probably even gonna lose Wakfu.
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>>46503509
> Valeria
You mean the bitch who constantly blocks everything Fate related and people thank her for it? Yeah, no. Fuck her.
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>>46503545
Why?
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Remember not to feed bait, guys.
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>>46503562
As far as I know, the guy's depressed already.
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REALLY.
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>>46503577
He's a tough guy, he'll be okay. I wish he wouldn't get so down because of people like this, but I understand being discouraged. Just focus on the good times and wait until next thread, hope people don't take the bait next time.
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>>46503510
Funnily enough guns are actually a thing in the anime.
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>>46503411
He can, though. You can't kick people out of Jumpchain, all you can do is not do their Jumps or put them in the drive. But he makes good ones, so that's not going to happen. All you can do is decide whether you want to put up with it silently, or put up with it loudly.
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>>46503510

Hey, I'm not defending it.

It was inconsistent and never really explicit.

But it has more of a claim to being the "true spirit of jumpchain" than accusations that it was a heretical transgression against the REALLY TRUE spirit of jumpchain.
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>>46503411
It's been a little while AntiNamefag anon.
How have you been?
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>>46503600
That's correct. My point is that jumpchain didn't start out with some idea of respecting settings and their themes. Guns exist, but shooting stuff up is hilariously against the themes you'd need to adhere to to respect the setting.
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>>46503600
>mfw this episode was banned
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>>46503603
>or put them in the drive.

Which hinges on getting at least Brutus on board and he doesn't seem willing to over minor reasons.
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>>46503625
I feel worse for Porygon, who isn't allowed in the anime ever again. Sorta like Kadabara and the card art.
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>>46503603
See >>46503576
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>>46503561
So, basically, you just want Jumpchain to end.
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>>46503718
That's pretty much his goal in pissing everyone off. That's why all of you need to stop feeding him.
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>>46503638
When there's a consensus that a Jump needs to not exist, it doesn't get onto the drive.
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Quick question: iirc, the Sentry from Marvel got his powers from a super serum. Would I be able to recreate that, and would it work in other settings?
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>>46503743
Then what does that say that Fallout is on the drive?
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>>46503760
What were his powers?
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>>46503718
>>46503734
I mean, for the record? This same guy was calling for that last year. All of his posts amounted to ranting about hating Red and the thread and how with QS gone we should all die. Sometimes he'd even outright say, that his goal was to get people to give up and leave.
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>>46503788
He had the power of "a million exploding suns".

I shit you not. http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Robert_Reynolds_%28Earth-616%29
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>>46503718

While i disagree with him vehemently, the namefags by themselves wouldn't be able to keep something this massive up for two years by themselves, and even if they did at this point we have so many people doing there own thing I expect jumpchain as a concept would survive a lot of people dropping off.
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>>46503769
It means that namefags get more rights than anons, obviously. Better fall in line! Otherwise the defense force will come after you.
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>>46503825
Holy shit I hope that was sarcasm.
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>>46503060
True Lies

Drop In
27 years old
Polyglotism - Spanish, Arabic
Care to Tango?
Reckless, Wild Luck 150
Care About Your Cause 450
They Were All Bad 750
Hot If You Want 1050
Snow Cone Maker 1100
Velcro Wardrobe
My Horse is Getting Tired 1000

2 free languages are a really nice freebie.

Care to Tango makes me great at dancing, not entirely sure if I already had something similar.

Reckless, Wild Luck increases luck when doing something new and makes me better at learning. May not be particularly noticable given the amount of luck and learning perks I've got but still a good perk.

Care About Your Cause is a business perk with a 'you know how rich people are' addon. Bit of an 'add it to the pile' one.

They Were All Bad is pretty great for knowing what people did last summer.

Hot If You Want seems to let you sort of decide on how attractive you are plus give you a general boost. Pretty valuable.

There was a choice between snow cones and espressos with the leftover 50 CP but as I can only assume the espressos are of average quality I figured the snow cones would probably be a better choice. Also really funny to just turn up with a snow cone in places. Had to look up what a snow cone is. I like Slush Puppies though.

My Horse is Getting Tired means I have to try my best to either walk everywhere or never be in a hurry. Plan is basically more just titting around in the 90s again, not much of a setting really this.
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>>46503811
Yeah, but this is Marvel. Every two bit magical being is "THE OMNIPOTENT, THE ALL-POWERFUL!!!!"
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>>46503811
This guy's life and powerset suck really bad. You sure you want this?
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>>46503599
It happens every. single. fucking. thread. lately.

You would've thought we'd have learned after JoJo. But no, rampant dickery is apparently all we're capable of.
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>>46503811
For the most part people treat statements like that as hyperbole unless the comic is showing a feat on that level. iirc Sentry was just trading blows with the hulk when they said that.
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>>46503901
It's like two threads in a row and it's because you guys are taking his bait and encouraging him. You see this guy start ranting about names or something? Ignore him.
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>>46503901
And take a shot, some dude mentioned JoJo. Like every time one of these arguments happens.

Let's be honest, JoJo was smart in getting out while the getting was good.
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>>46503901
Well it was better like 2-3 threads ago, I think he was gone for like a day or two.

it was really nice.
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>>46503718
Val doesn't own jumpchain. She just monopolizes Fate jumps and shouts down anyone who tries to build for it. If she left people would still make jumps and builds for them.
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>>46503901
>>46503920
Also, calling all of US dicks because of one guy, one guy that you know has been doing this for years isn't fair. It's not us that's the problem, it's him.
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>>46503930
No, this thread is fine most of the time. Please stop being so gloomy, it makes things worse.
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>>46503935
It's not even just Fate, she shouts down a lot of shit in the IRC. Like the lovely little argument between her and Justiceanon where she literally SHAT on Justice for daring to take the Darkseid drawback in Young Justice.

Funny thing was - her reasoning behind it was "he's just wanking it away without any thought" when she's one of the biggest wankers here.
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>>46503599
>Constant Dickery for a year
>Anyone here
>Having tough skin basically trying to be pseudo DMs under the constant pressure of everyone else
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Remember, he's been known to reply to himself. Don't take the bait.
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>>46503978
This almost reads like a poem.
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>>46503965
>IRC drama
Can we not?
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>>46504007
Don't reply to him, even if it's to act condescending, it just fuels him.
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>>46503599
Amen, brother.
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>>46503930
With all the shit that's happened recently, wouldn't be surprised if Red jumped ship either.
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>>46504096
inb4 "IT'D BE BETTER IF SHE DID HUR HUR HUR"
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>>46504096
You mean the one guy we all just have to learn to ignore again? Come on folks, being optimist leads to better results.
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>>46504003
>Roses are red.
>Salt is white.
>No matter what happens,
>this will end in a fight.
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>>46503965
urgh, not irc drama please. We pretty much know its Valeria shitting on something with everyone cackling at her antics, if its not talking about Fate or Gundam.
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>>46504124
No matter what happens, this will be alright.
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>>46503965
She's a hypocrite is what she is. All she does is go on about how unstoppable and powerful she is, but the second someone tries to do something similar she'll lose her shit. And because she's claimed all the Fate jumps she'll gather her army if you disagree. She's got to be the strongest person in this single player game, after all.
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>>46504124
P O E T T R E E
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>>46504124
Fukken. Beautiful.
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>>46504147
I thought that was Red.
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You know we're winning when he starts replying to himself to try and get more drama. Remember, just keep ignoring him.
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>>46504196
Look just shut up you're giving him attention too.

Shit's hopeless, everything's fucked captain, lets just call it good and never make a thread
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>>46504196
When you talk about the shitposter without replying to them you're still talking about the shitposter.
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>>46504221
You aint even trying anymore man
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>>46504221
But that would be letting him win.
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>>46504003
Constant shitposting
Stop feeding the troll you dweebs
What's a funyarinpa, Junpei?
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>>46504245
Junpei only good Magician
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>>46504124
Righteous rhymes.

Can ya dig it?
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>>46504240
We're all losing anyways

>>46504231
The fact that i havent posted until now and you're calling samefag on someone who just wants this all over with vs shitposting about everyone else for personal gain only emphasizes the problems we have.
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>>46504189
Red's army is an autopilot of white knights while she plays the wounded deer. Val commands hers like a diva.

Wow, it's almost like namefags are fucking toxic in general.
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>>46504124
It's like pottery.
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>>46504262
I need a hundred of those.
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All right, as somebody from the CYOA General who's been lurking this shit for a while:

How do you put up with this? CYOA-making is basically a volunteer hobby, and it seems to me that if you catch nothing but holy hell for making CYOA - you owe these niggers nothing and can leave whenever you want.
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>>46504383
Because this is actually comparatively rare. We have one shitposter who has been doing this for THREE YEARS, and usually he's not on or people ignore him. Lately people have been taking his bait, when that happens it emboldens him and makes him more active.

Also CYOA general lately has been through an ass ton of thread killing arguments too, so you should be aware of how this works.
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>>46504409
Yeah and it confuses the fuck out of me too.
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>>46504383
This is legit just par for the course here. Salt is the lifeblood of this thread, and once it recedes, good jumps spontaneously appear.
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>>46504383
I don't give a fuck what they say or think. Ultimately, I make Jumps because I want to. If anons want to bitch, they can bitch into the wind, because I do not give a fuck.
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>>46504383
Ya dont, enough people consider leaving or have already left. Probably applies the same to your end.


Serious full disclosure, I just want all this cancer to end, the opposing drama, the constant bitching over playstyles, the constant shit that just happens. I just wanted to shoot the shit about cross interactions
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>>46504440
What if those anons egit critic tho
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>>46504436
... But why?

That just says to me "treat me like shit, you get content."

That's not a healthy ideal to be upholding.
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>>46503760
Sentry also went fucking insane and created an evil version of himself due to that super serum. His existence was not always detrimental, but I'm not sure you could even say that his shit evened out.
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>>46504471
Because it is 'legit par the course'. That anon is in a bad mood because of the argument and is worsening it with doom and gloom.
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Progress report!

Mostly just some announcements.

>NINJAGO UPDATE
>There will be a +0 "go directly to Chima upon leaving, do not pass Go, do not collect $200" Drawback
>If you do swipe the Realm Crystal, it will retain roughly the same functionality - allowing you to hop between alternate dimensions within the same setting - but I ask you: do you really want to deprive the heroes of that when they need it most?

>ELDAR
>All that's left is Wargear descriptions, unless anyone can think of some more good Items. This has taken way longer than I expected.

>AGE OF EMPIRES III SCENARIO
>Need a Circle of Ossus reward for Part 2: Ice - on par with a single frigate (no crew) or two Heavy Bombards (Russian-only guns, second-best cannons in the game, right behind the Ottoman-only Great Bombard)

>WADANOHARA
>Progress is slow, Backgrounds are not finalized

>HERO 108
>65% chance of being a thing once the current crop is done

>NEXO KNIGHS
>85% chance of being a thing once the current crop is done

>FAIRY TAIL
>I really just wanna know if it'll end any time soon. Please. Please let Mashima not make this any harder for me than he already has.
>Also I need new Drawback ideas besides "see all of this post-timeskip stuff? You're going through /all/ of it."
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>>46504487
>it is
it isn't
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>>46504491
What is Nexo Knights?
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>>46504515
http://ca.lmgtfy.com/?q=nexo+knights
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>>46504383
We left originally because CYOA kicked us out. The very first Pokemon jump took over the CYOA general for several threads because it was flavor of the month and people in the thread started to complain. So we moved over to start our own general, which is now the only place to get chains.

We then created a short checklist of "things we're gonna do so this general totally doesn't end up going to shit like all the other generals this time for realz guyz!"
These included things like 'no obviously pornagraphic material' and 'no multiplayer', which had been things that consumed and taken over previous generals, chasing people away who didn't want to only do those things forever. Some people here are refugees from those generals.

Without sex and warfare, anger and powerwanking were prettymuch the only things that were left.
So that's us now. That's where we are.
WELCOME TO JUMPCHAIN.
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>>46504560
Anon please, he could give me a better description as a fan than google will.
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>>46504515
The latest LEGO cartoon.

Main characters seen here:

>Clay - the leader/JUSTICE of the group, guy in blue. Uses a claymore.
>Macy - the princess of the kingdom, wants to be a knight so bad, gal in red. Wields a mace.
>Axl - the dumb gluttonous muscle of the group. Surprisingly intuitive at times - almost too dumb to fool. Yellow helmet, wields a greataxe.
>Lance - the narcissist. Wears silver armor, wields a lance.
>Aaron - the fearless slacker. Green armor, wields a bow-and-arrows/crossbow.
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>>46504595
Do they have magical elemental powers?
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>>46504491
>All those jumps.
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Just finished watching S2 of SW Rebels. Season Finale was very good. Was wondering, what did everyone do in Star Wars?

Did you negotiate better terms for the Mandalorians in KOTOR era? In Clone Wars did you help remove the control chip? What about fighting for clone rights?
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>>46504465
>anons
>legit criticism
When pigs fly, then I will buy a reinforced umbrella.
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>>46504641
I use the Force to force the Force to force Force force forcefully.
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>>46504491
>FAIRY TAIL
You'll probably be waiting a while longer. IIRC the creator said that the GMG arc was around the halfway point, so we can probably expect another 200 chapters, give or take a few.
At the rate it's released that'll be a few years in the future, even assuming no hiatus.
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>>46504465
It depends, honestly its a game of compromise. Makers should be able to listen to criticism but follow their own decisions, and the anons should respect that. Being reduced to insults is stupidity, even if you think you are ultimately correct it does nothing to help the situation. There are two sides to every story and nobody here doesn't act like they act without reasons that at least to them seem rational.

Yes, even Bancho.
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>>46504616
No, but they can use their shields to download temporary buffs known as Nexo Powers. All provided by Merlok 2.0, the digital wizard, and the Rolling Fortrex.

Examples include:
>Dragon of Justice - used to weaken enemies by sending a spectral dragon at them
>Formation of Fortitude - summons 4 spectral clones of the Knight using it to protect against monsters
>Alliance of the Fortrex - summons the Fortrex itself
>Lion of Bravery - removes fear from the users while active

There's also squire-bots and holo-bridges, and even a Knight News Network. So schizo-tech, here we come again.
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>>46504737
You know I'd be surprised if this isn't a videogame yet.
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>>46504491
Wow that is impressive. I might be brainstorming a jump or two ahead while I'm writing, but I could never do all that at once. Nioce.
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>>46504746
Doesn't appear to be one yet, but it does have a mobile app.
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>>46504778
>Mobile app
Well that's a sad fate.
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>>46504383
I'm just having fun. I think the only time I came close to leaving was during a big shitstorm, but now I just sort of realized that I was taking this place too seriously and now faff about doing whatever.
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Who's your token evil teammate, /jc/?

You know, that one Companion who still works with you despite hating everything you stand for and wanting to murder you on a regular basis, and you figure it's better keeping them around than letting them loose.
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>>46504854
It's Bowser funny enough. Raised him as my son, so he's not even as hostile (as little as that is these days) as in canon, but he's definitely the most morally gray of my companions.
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>>46504854
I kill evil people I don't befriend them
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>>46504854
The closest I come is Tak from Invader Zim. I was always interested in her, even before I started Jumping. Joined up as her "side kick" but kept "accidentally" ruining her plans through my bumbling. Kicking Dib and Zim around when they were forced to team up against us was rather fun.

Now she operates as the one who suggest the "efficient" solution to problems we face. She goes along with whatever is eventually decided, but she has a tendency to go rogue when she doesn't get her way.
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>>46500890
Well I think it is doable for certain jumpers. I could probably pull it off but the biggest issues isn't perks or science; it's time and resources. You are going to need likely hundreds of years and going to have to gather or likely invent alternatives to thousands of different materials that are components to this thing.
It's something that's cool to have but you would need to make it your thing really to get it to work.l
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>>46504854
None of my companions are traitorous. I know it's kind of boring, but if I had a companion like that I would just leave them in stasis or dump them somewhere.
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>>46504854
Pic related.
>>46504939
Obligatory, then why are you still alive?
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>>46505028
I still remember teasing anons about awkward moments with girlycard when that jump came out. Good times.
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>>46504939
Here we go again.
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>>46505028
1. I'm morally ambiguous not evil 2. I do not consider myself a person. 3. I'm a lot better than I used to be.
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>>46504854
I have token good teammates, does that count?

I'm pretty sure Jackman and Father Anderson only stayed with me in case I went too crazy and would deal with me if I turned dangerous, although I think Rits and Ninja have a kill plan for them if they tried their kill plan with me. Although we seem to be one great big family so I don't see anything happening.
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