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Jumpchain CYOA Thread #771: Death to the Knife Ears Edition
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>>46442367
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>too much greentext edition
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>>46458784
Huh I legitimately have no idea how that happened. I just copy-pasted it directly from last thread.
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So I just watched the Dante vs Bayonetta Deathbattle video, and their feats are crazy. Can you get on their level with just the stuff you can buy in DMC/Bayo?
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>>46458846
And half of Bayo's arsenal including her strongest abilities just got kind of ignored.

Not at the start. If you get good enough at using the styles/weapons/etc you bought then yes but you are unlikely to get good enough without a relatively high-powered jump or three behind your back.
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>>46458749
>Death to the Knife Ears Edition
Why would you do this? You heartless brute! Knife Ears are not for killing. They are for handholding.
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>>46459103
They're for enslaving in the mines.
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>>46459141
>using knife ears in the mines
Look if you want to kill them there are easier ways, and ones that don't clog your mines with corpses.
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>>46458749
>>46459103
>Death To The Knife Ears Edition

Reminds me of my favorite session of D&D I've ever had the pleasure of playing in.

Basically ended up being one of those sandbox worlds where whatever we said was recorded by the DM and could come back to haunt us kind of deal.

Relied heavily on the Dragonmech rules so we fought, scrapped and piloted quite a few mechs.

Long story short, I played a Goblin Coglayer and was squad mates with a Troll leader and a Warforged brawler. We were part of the Cuttooths, basically anyone who was willing to sharpen their teeth, and fought versus the Knife Ears, a group primarily made up of Elves who wanted to stop our nations industrial advances who's followers tend to cut their ears to denote their alliance. The rest of the party were Human.

The distinction was lost on several players when we had to smack them around a bit and go, "No you idiots! Those are Orcs! (Orc mean Sharp Tooth)."

"But...Those are Knife Ears!"

"No, those are Elven Cut Tooths! Look at their fangs, you idiots," And then we smacked them again.
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>>46459207
Yeah, they'd be much more useful for farms and orchards and such.

Stick to dwarves for your mines.
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>>46459269
>Dragonmech
Wasn't someone making a jump of that?
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>>46459022
I mostly meant their strength and speed.

Out of curiosity, what does she have that's way more impressive than what was shown?
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>>46459103
What good have elves ever done for you, anon?
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>>46459342
Fixed my shoes.
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>>46459338
Aye, me.

Its been put on the back of the list. Still need to hash out Fighting Foodons and I'm also messing with Dreamblade.
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>>46459342
Created a meme which keeps getting spammed by idiots.
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>>46458749
Why the Elven hate? Sure, they can be a little tedious to deal with, but they're not all that bad.

Their blood does make for such lovely mana batteries though. Just a little time and effort and dark magic.

>>46459342
Some of my best friends in Forgotten Realms were Elves. Nice bunch, liked to party, robbed me a little. Worth it.
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>>46459342
handholding...
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>>46459429
>Why the Elven hate?

It's not real hate, it's just an ancient /tg/ meme that keeps getting spewed by Reddit-tier morons who think they're funny.
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>>46459463
Chill out man, I've just been playing a lot of Dragon Age lately.
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>>46459463
That's not true. Sorry to tell you this anon, but some of us do indeed hate elves for being portrayed as arrogant and better than humans in every way.
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>>46459440
You could hold a human's hand.
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>>46459339
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYwpG4lwSls
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Why are robots the best?
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>>46459674
Because they're cute.
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>>46458846
No because Red starts us off at retardedly low levels for Bayo. You might as well go DMC first so you're not completely useless.
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>>46459342
Not that anon but in 40k my people developed a deep deep hatred of eldar. This led to an accidental war in forgotten realms where a misunderstanding with a particularly obnoxious high elf got emotionally charged and led to him being eaten.
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Final Fantasy 8 Question:
So, the Jump itself mentioned that Guardian Forces are sentient, but it doesn't mention to what degree. The various wikis don't tell me much more than that. Are they up there with FF6 Espers?

>>46459674
Because there are so many ways to customize them!
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>>46459405
Well, I’ll love you for it whenever it comes out.
>>46459603
You just don’t understand, it’s not the hand, it is the appeal of the forbidden. The Heresy!
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>>46459674
They have rocket punches.
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>>46459806
Oh wait missed the word good....uh I have yet to meet elves that i somehow did not end up at war with.
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What's your usual strategy when entering a new jump as a drop-in? Which jumps do you like dropping into and which jumps do you like taking backgrounds for?
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I remember there was WH40K Eldar Jump in the works somewhere.

Any progress on that front?
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>>46459829
Well I kindly ask you to be patient.

I work Monday-Friday and tend to only really have a chanceto write on the Weekends not counting slow nights at work where I get flashes of inspiration. I've been keeping a pen and paper on me for such occasions.
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>>46459816
GFs range from dog intelligience all the way up to full human intelligience.
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>>46459816
The third one you meet has a conversation with you.
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>>46460000
Did I sound rude or impatient? That was not my intention at all. Take your time, I just love the setting and am looking forward to it, that’s all.
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>>46459954
I usually prefer to take a Background for every Jump I go into. I tend to go Drop-In during Jumps where I need my head clear from the get go for various plans. I'll also do it if I don't know the setting very well, but I try to avoid that cop-out.

>>46460017
Hmm... So pretty much like Espers then. Well, there goes one plan. I'll have to think of some other way of gaining their power without destroying the memory center of my brain.
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>>46459954
Read minds
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>>46459954
Usual strategy is figuring out what's going on by reading the mind of the closest sapient, and exploding all hostiles.

I like to take backgrounds for most worlds, through I particulary like those that align with what I'll be doing that jump. While drop-ins are preferable in absolute hellholes, like Food Fight

Most of the time I only take Drop-In if it's necessary to get everything I want point-wise.
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What all jumps have perks that make you ridiculously skilled at CQB fighting? (Melee, unarmed, guns, archery, everything)

I've got the MCU and Arrowverse ones and Wuxia.
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Star Trek: The Next Generation

27 years old
Drop-In
Betazoid
Our Darkest Hour 300
I Am Not God 600
Honorary Xeno 700
Mental Alarm 850
Q This 1150
Universal Translator 1200
Evil Twin 1000

Sorta feels like this one could have used an update. From pirates travelling with a 'band of rouges' to the science capstone referring to you as an enhanced human despite it being like a 1 in 8 chance you're human it's a bit rough.

Rolled free choice and decided on Betazoid. Figured mindreading is pretty useful and I was already a Vulcan last time. Reading the wiki article on them makes Betazoids seem pretty damn magical realm, instead of the menopause middle-aged Betazoid ladies try to bang everybody. They also don't ride horses because it's cruel but used to keep birds in cages made of their hair and get naked all the time. Still better powers than most of the others.

As for options didn't get much from the capstones. Our Darkest Hour makes you smarter, clearer of thought and doubles your physical abilities when you're in danger. Cheap at 300 CP.

I Am Not God is more niche. Lets you communicate with and teach complicated things to stupid idiots primitives.

Honorary Xeno is the best perk here for the price. 100 CP to be naturally liked by aliens regardless of animosity to my species. Lots of weird stuff you can do with that.

Mental Alarm lets me know when people are trying to read my mind which is neat. I mean could probably do that anyway but I figure with a perk it's more foolproof.

Q This means I can take out reality warping creatures. Not exactly going to get a lot out of it but better to have it and not need it.

Universal Translator was due to 50 CP left, it's really good and because it's a purchased with CP item it probably works in other settings.

Evil Twin is pretty easy to deal with. Plenty of headhunter style perks means even the most dangerous game is not going to be that dangerous.
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So if the interrupted events of Stone Ocean would have resulted in World Over Heaven, do you think there'd be any possible way of engineering similar whack BS seemingly unrelated to power up one' Stand? Not even Dio's inane BS, but our own inane BS.

I'd ask the jump-maker but.

Well.

You know.
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>>46460247
Whirlwind in Dishonored.
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>>46460079
Become a cyborg and back your memories up to be downloaded and synced each week?
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>>46460079
>I'll have to think of some other way of gaining their power without destroying the memory center of my brain.
There's a perk in the jump for that. The SEED capstone.
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>>46460451
I do not.

It should be. In theory. In practice you'll need either a lot of stupid bullshit or lots of perks to pull off stuff like that without plot-plot-lot behind your back.
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>>46460574
Funny enough, GUNNM was my last Jump, so that idea would work, but I like my flesh body for... reasons. inb4 LEWD!

>>46460622
Oh... wow. So there is. I can't believe I missed that. I'll have to rework things a bit, but I think I can get that to fit with my build. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Does anyone know how the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy Jump is going?
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>>46460451
I imagine there is some way to power up a stand similarly but honestly the entire set up used for that was convoluted and not actually explained as far as I know.
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>>46457400

Source please!
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>>46460783
sorry I meant the post below that
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>>46460783
>>46460844
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>>46460688
Someone's doing a HHGttG jump?

Fuck. Yes.

I need me one of them Electronic Thumbs. And a Guide.
And a Towel.
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>>46460783
>>46460844

Here you go fampai

http://posthumouse.tumblr.com/
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>>46461028
are you certain this is the right blog? It seems to be some kind of aesthetic blog but I'm not finding original art by this guy, thanks though
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>>46461145

Hold on this should be the true source

http://attalllog.tumblr.com/post/62502928901/20130928-photoshop
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>>46461190
>http://attalllog.tumblr.com/post/62502928901/20130928-photoshop

Much better, but these girls look pretty young though, I am not certain it's the sort of thing I should subscribe to :-( thanks again
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>>46461258

No worries m8
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>>46460675
So most likely a late / mid-game Jumper, essentially.

>>46460698
>convoluted and not actually explained

Yeeeep.
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So my internet has been down for the weekend what is this I hear about a campione jump?
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Jump 20: Final Fantasy 8, H.L. Mencken Edition

Location: Deling City (Rolled)
Age: 18 (Rolled)
Background: Drop-In (Free)

Abilities:
+ Limit Break (Free)
+ Eyes on me (Free)
+ Amnesia-Proof (600 CP)
+ Teaching Prodigy (1000 CP)

Items:
+ Uniform
+ Weapon (Shovel)

Companions:
+ Freedom Fighters (1200 CP)
== DC: Weapon (Greatsword), Combat Training (Sword)
== Sweets: Weapon (Machine Gun), Intimidating, Motorcycle
== Lenore: Weapon (Auto-Crossbow), "Strategist"
== Maliumkin: Weapon (Rapier), Combat Training (Improvised Weapons)
== Tak: Weapon (Pistol), Combo-Dog (Mimi), Intimidating
== Hooligan Tuesday: Weapon (Rifle), Combo-Dog (Chocobo), Chocobo
== Choir of Righteous Fury: Weapon (Various), Combat Training (Various)
== Alita: Weapon (Knuckleduster), Whatever, Intimidating

TLDR Story:
So, mainly I'm here to mess with the story of the game and send things in a wildly different direction. I sign up alongside the local Freedom Fighters and start giving them lessons on everything from combat to guerrilla tactics to improved explosive manufacturing. I don't take to the field myself, though my Companions go on missions from time to time. I spend a majority of time experimenting with my modified Bio-Reactor, my PAK, and the few blank Brain Bio-Chips I picked up in the last Jump.
It doesn't take long before I hear about the assassination attempt being planned. I make some /severe/ modification to the ammo Irvine is going to be using and make sure he has it in hand before the mission. My hard work pays off and the modified bullets are able to punch through Edea's protective magic. The Capital erupts into chaos and my Companions and I use the distraction to hightail it out of town.
[1/2]
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106. Wheel of Time
Age: 18, Origin: Drop-In
Location: Tar Valon
Perks: Sniffer (-300), Viewings (-400), The Dark One's Own Luck (-250)
Items: Dice, Bag of Coin (-50)

The wheel and the towers, the satan trapped in the center, the reincarnated hero who has to prove himself through trial, the inevitable return of myth through the ages as the world turns. This is fun. Fate manipulation is a great skillset to take up for times like this. I can literally just call up and ask the people in charge what's going on or try convince them to change some stuff, and if I disagree I can take it into my own hands up to a point. I don't employ it willy-nilly, but it sees use.

I can hear it in the world, the darkness is in everything, and it's trying to end everything. A thanatos urge for this existence, inherent in all things. It's a terrible bass-line, really. It gets louder nearer the blight I get. But I can stare darkness in the eye and not blink. There is nothing to do but help the defense of the world through bloody inquisition, I suppose. Helping unite a dozen countries against all-consuming darkness, using foresight and fate to bring down those who would ally themselves with the end of humanity's existence, turning back the blight through purifying magics and strange science. Saving worlds is hard work. I'll work with Randy whenever I can, because fated hero and all that and it saves me some trouble. I can even offer him advice from what I learned as a Nerevarine on how these things usually play out.

I'm going to learn the song that makes plants grow, I think. I'm not a channeler, but it still seems like something I should have on the books anyway.
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WUXIA (11)
--PLACES--
Works Of Jin Yong
--BACKGROUND--
Drop-In
Male, 17yo
--BASIC MARTIAL ARTS--
•Drunken Fist
•Kyukoshinryu (900cp)
•White Crane Style (800cp)
--ADVANCED MARTIAL ARTS--
•Ki Accumulation (600cp)
•Pressure Points (300cp)
--MYSTICAL MARTIAL ARTS--
•Adaptability (-100cp)
--ARTIFACTS & ALLIES--
•Students (-300cp)
->Leliana [200cp]
-Apprentice, F, 17yo
•Archery [100cp]
•Southern Dragon Style [0cp]->Elizabeth Utarefson [200cp]
-Apprentice, F, 17yo
•Ki Accumulation [0cp]
--DRAWBACKS--
•Everybody Was Kungfu Fighting
•Rebel Spirit (-100cp)
•You Look Tired, Wanderer (0cp)

EVERYBODY WAS KUNGFU FIGHTING! Some how we ended up in Ancient China, I think. I think it's Ancient China or somewhere similar. Needless to say it would seem that everyone knew some kind of Kungfu. Most tend to use them for mundane purposes, like rapidly kicking a mat to clear out the dust. Or sweeping by doing martial arts forms.

Me & the girls were equally perplexed. We stayed that way until some guards tried to arrest us. We found out that we're wanted criminals for aiding & supplying rebellions against the emperor or something. They wouldn't take no for an answer so we set them straight, but that just increased our bounty.

So we decided to just explore the countryside. Even the back roads were crawling with bandits. For whatever reason we seemed to have suffered more predation by bandits than anyone else. Not that your average bandit is gonna be a real threat, it was pretty annoying. For rest our trip here it was running from the authorities, kicking bandit ass, somehow gathered a movement around me & succeeded in overthrowing the government. We didn't participate in the overthrowing, but it was done in my name.

While here I was teaching my girlfriends some the stuff I had learned & picked up. Most of it was just fun non-combat stuff, I did teach them about where to strike on pressure points. It was an eventful trip, I hope my next trip is as eventful.
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>>46461669
Someone is working on one maybe
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>>46461697
>Letting a sweet, caring orphanage matron die.
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>>46461669
[2/2]
My Companions and I travel around the world at that point, searching for any hints we can find of Guardian Forces. The fights with them are challenging enough to keep us in shape, but not enough so that we lose anyone along the way. I end up having the stop us at one point for a week so I can help Alita understand Magic in general. If I had realized it sooner, I would have given her a primer first, but I can't think of everything.

We stay at Rebel bases whenever we need to resupply. I pay for our way by training the local forces a bit while my Companions work on their weaponry. Over the years I hear that they're slowly gaining ground, but it is still going to be a long fight. I merely shrug and keep moving with my own plans. I've taken part in enough rebellions that I don't look forward to throwing myself into a new one. The common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. I say so to DC when she questions why I'm not interested in helping out. She comments that I've become a bit more cynical, which is probably true.

Sometime around the 7th year, I make a major breakthrough with my research. By combining the memory and personality back-up system in the PAK with several Brain Bio-Chips in series, I'm able to drastically increase it's memory capacity and move the Guardian Forces from my own mind into the PAK itself. While I am unable to incorporate my modified Bio-Capacitor into it as well, I am able to transform the PAK into a gauntlet-like device that allows the wielder to access GF power without all the brain damage. For now I have to keep it connected to the Bio-Capacitor to supply it with the raw magical power it need, but it is a start.

I need to think of a name for it.

My time there is not enough to witness the end of the fighting, but based on the news the Rebellion isn't far from winning. A certain group of heroes spearheaded much of the campaign.
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Say, how would a devil arm-arm react to the Image Breaker? What about the God Hand?
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>>46462118
You done goofed esé.
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>>46462118
pretty sure it would destroy it or at least turn it into a normal prosthetic arm
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Alright, so I'm try to maximize the whole Demon King deal, now that we've got the Court of Bel from Devil Survivor... Aside from all three the DS1 things (Bel, Conquer Your Demon, and beating Lucifer), what other perks should I have?

As of now, I've got Demonologist from DMC, Master of the Devil's Yard from Actraiser, Negotiator from Soul Hackers, King of Hell from Unholy Heights, and going Demititan of Malfeas in Percy Jackson, as well as To Call Forth from Sword and Sorcery.

As for my crown (because I gotta have one, it's probably required) I've got a base of A Weight Upon the Brow from Sword and Sorcery, with the authoritive power of the Crown of Makai from Darkstalkers, and the Demon Horn Tiara from Maoyuu Hero And Demon King added to it.

So... what else should I add, and how likely am I to just straight up yoink the forces of hell whenever I pop into a world?

Also, what are some fun jumps to try and take over hell/the underworld?
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>>46462118
Not well. At all.
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>>46462118
I can't help but feel like Cyborg's robot arms would be able to lift the weight he's carrying, or if they couldn't, it would mostly be an issue with the cybernetic mechanical systems (thereby rendering the whole act pointless?), and Beast Boy would most likely just turn into a gorilla or something because that's the kind of thing he does.

And I get what the picture is doing. But I can't help but think Robin would be a better subject for Starfire to show up, because he's the one guy on the team who actually probably lifts weights on a regular basis.

I am probably overthinking this.
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>>46462375
Cyborg has been seen lifting weights. He even went like 105% over his weight limit or something like that. It was a point he fought against Atlas a superior robot and got his butt whooped. However later he rediscovered his human half so he can push himself over his limit.

BB is probably trying to get in shape by himself. Reason stands that he probably wants to increase his own strength that it could transfer to his animal forms. Then again, he could've just been goaded into it by Cyborg.

Robin is only non-powered human so I agree he'd most likely should be hitting the weights. However I think the focal point is sweaty Starfire and dem abs.
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>>46462375
Cyborg does somehow get stronger by working out, apparently his human parts can still be improved it was the entire focus of one episode. Also he just likes to work out.
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>>46462284
I read this and had a hilarious vision of you romping through the Disney Princess Jump as a version of Hades.

>>46462462
Beat me to it by thiiiiiiiiis much.
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>>46462469
>Also he just likes an excuse to hit the showers
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So how would Gaia from type moon react to someone with image breaker? Especially if they were trying to be a dick about it and break key connections (Finding where ley lines meet and touching everything just to be a dick in general.)
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>>46462493
>I read this and had a hilarious vision of you romping through the Disney Princess Jump as a version of Hades.
Sounds about right, yes. Through I'm gonna need some hair made out of fire for that...
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>>46462594
Primate Murder gets a new chew toy.
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>>46462633
>Primate Murder

Touch primate murder, it becomes a normal but very angry dog.
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>>46462686
It's questionable since anything Gaia herself creates is part of the natural order, and Imagine Breaker specifically doesn't harm supernatural things that are non-chaotic and have always been supernatural. So it's debatable for PM, but for the record it also can't hurt things like souls if beings naturally have souls.
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>>46462619
Any of a dozen different basic illusion spells would cover that without you actually having to light your head on fire. Or if you really desire that authentic ascetic, Forgotten Realms has a race descended from Elementals. The Fire lineage doesn't have full fire hair, but their head does burst into flames when mad. The Genasi.
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>>46462594
I think she might actually appreciate it. I mean if it undoes her grand reality marble(which it shouldn't) then I think she wouldn't care where you are it would piss her off as much as any reality marble. and if it doesn't undo her grand reality marble then you are just fucking with the magic of other people she may just ignore it. All it does is undo the supernatural and Gaia is the natural in type moon.
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>>46462718
Ah, right. Yes, going fire Genasi would get me the look, thanks... But I'll stick to illusions for now, which should work fine if not quite as authentic. Got other plans for Forgotten Realms.
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For those of you who got Dethklok following and spectating your adventures, what songs have your adventures inspired?
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Can't decide Hellsing vampire (+Dark binding) or Natsu vampire ? Can anyone list pros and cons ?
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>>46462832
What prevents you from doing pic related?
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>>46460264

Strike Witches

Free Choice - Britannia
Ace 100
Fighter
First Generation Striker
Defensive Sign "Directional Shield"
Restoration Sign "Blur" 200
Perception Sign "Precognition" 400
Ofrensive Sign "Light Heat Attack" 700
Technomage 900
Bomber Jacket
Striker Artificier Tool Kit 1000

Wrote a whole big thing explaining my build and running through a plan but deleted it by accident and I don't have the heart to spend any more time thinking about Strike Witches.
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>>46462879
>file name

I take it somebody's not a fan of planesluts.
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>>46462832
Obvious answer is Twipires, so you can sparkle.

Don't know anything about Nasupires but Hellsing's are pretty good. You're only slightly weakened by sunlight, you're vastly stronger, faster, and more durable than before. Other weaknesses aren't as strong either. You really only need to feed like once a month. Seras seems to be the model for the perk, and she didn't seem to have that much difficulty adjusting. She still is the happy go lucky police girl.

On bright side at least they're not WoD Vampires.
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>>46462832
I mean, if you're going that route...
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>>46462860
I want take alchemist perk tree in tsukihime not vampire and I don't know what natsu vampire can give me that hellsing vampire can't.
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>>46462832
Hellsing vampires have much better base stats, and once you really get into the soul eating meme ridiculous endurance and regeneration.

Nasu vampires are strong, and have insane potential if you are willing to experiment on yourself with Magecraft. However, Reality Marbles being up for purchase in multiple jumps gives a sort of stigma against developing your own naturally. At least, that's what it looks like, considering how many elect to say they don't have RMs even though they totally have the Magecraft skill and alien mentality needed to do so. This is important as many of the higher tier Dead Apostles augment their own body and vampiric prowess through said RMs.

Get both. Or don't. I can't tell you what to do.
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>>46462832
True Hellsing Vampires can basically bribe death with the souls they eat. Alucard gets shredded by bullets several times and just shrugs it up Fuck I think he gets shot just for show. He can shapeshift, turn to mist or bats, has zombie familiars or vampire pet shadows like Baskerville... technically, Alucard is more like a Legion for being a conglomeration of souls without sense of self around the Count's soul.

As for Natsu vampires, I dunno, I think they do need some time to regenerate and have those reality marble things. not an expert on that setting.
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>>46462633
>>46462748

Ok so on ultimate stress test conditions (in the hands of an arsehole) Gaia might want to kill you but still might not care. So generally it's ok to take Image breaker in to type moon and not worry about pissing off the entire planet is what I am taking from this.
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>>46463036
>>46463020
Thanks for answers. I will take just Hellsing vampire then.
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Hey /jc/

Does the 20 meters thing in the jojo's stands means radius? I want to think it does because a 20m square area is the size of my room. (4 by 4)/~4*4 yards
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>>46463117
Yes it's the radius, it's literally how far your stand can get from you before it loses power. You can push it past the range by a very small amount but the power of your stand goes down to basically nothing if you do so.
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>>46463117
Yes.

Which is why having an Automatic Stand is so strong - they don't have a Range limit.
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>>46463117
Also, are the stands already open up to Requiem stage or do we have to find an arrowhead?
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>>46463282
Gotta find an Arrowhead.

Or a piece of Jesus' corpse, but that wasn't really discussed I think due to Love Train.
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>>46463282
They need an arrowhead, the only ways of improving a stand without an arrowhead are if the stand is tied to a skill which you improve thus improving the stand, or through convoluted and not actually explained means.
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>>46463247
Yeah, problem with those is the control over the stand. but no matter, 20m is plenty for most situations.
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>>46463307
I think you can get an arrowhead equivalent in most timeframes of the jojo-verse. There´s the corpse in SBR and The wall in Jojolion.

Corpse should work as arrowhead, touch you for new power, touch stand for requiem.
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>>46463438
Speaking of JoJolion, any new developments with that plot?
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>>46463438
>The wall
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>>46463438
>Corpse should work as arrowhead, touch you for new power, touch stand for requiem.
Except that it doesn't actually work that way. It's properties were actually explained(well as far as jojo ever explains things), pieces grant stand powers, but it doesn't improve a stand in any way other than it's own nature.
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Post Kill la Kill jump builds
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>>46463524
I misread that as Kill la Bill.
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>>46463542
They're pretty similar. Badass female protagonists with cool swords that go on a long, violent quest for revenge.
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>>46463570
I don't think The Bride ended up fighting parasitic cloth-based aliens with the fate of the world at stake, though. So maybe... 40% similarity?
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>>46463642
Yeah, and Ryuko didn't get shot with rock salt or have a kid with the one she wanted revenge on. Maybe 30%.
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>>46463642
20% Original, 40% Kill Bill, 40% Sonic Adventure 2.
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>>46462832
Pretty equal in general but Nasu has a lot of more hax at the endgame.
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>>46463697
Could've done worse than ripping off the best Sonic game ever.
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>>46462965
Hey Many, I'm going to ask this again since it got buried last thread: >>46456622
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>>46461511
Ayup. For a midgame jumper that is likely to be the point where they ascend into early endgame. For endgame jumper that is just another shiny trinket which is really nice to have.
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>>46463495
I'll counter your wall with the Gipper.
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>>46463827
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvdB6EG844o
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>>46463495
>>46463827
>>46463880
I don't know who the fuck you guys are but I like you.
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>>46463542
You made me watch the first episode of this anime out of curiosity.

What drunkenness has invaded my brain? And why do I desire to keep watching it so much?
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>>46464018
Because of human curiosity.
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>>46463524
Alright.

Background: Drop-in (1000 cp)
Club: Sports (rolled 2)

Perks:
Chef (free, 1000 cp)
Fiber Hybrid (discount, 800 cp)
Dosh King (discount, 650 cp)
Radiant Presence (450 cp)
Kamui (discount, -200 cp)
Conservatively Dressed (-400 cp)

Gear:
Life Fiber Blade (-700 cp)

Drawbacks:
Nemesis (-400 cp)
Cute (0 cp)

Going for high-risk, high-reward here. I should be able to hold my own against Nui and Ryuko and eventually Ragyo using my Kamui, LF blade, and previous powers. I'll also probably try to recruit Satsuki and Mikisugi as allies.

r8/compare pls
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>>46464018
You're watching something made simply because the original creator wanted to see the cosplay that resulted because of it.
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>>46464018
Because no matter how retarded and not-great it gets, it's still immensely entertaining.
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>>46464098
>>46464071
You two pretty much hit the nail on the head. It's not awesome, but somehow it has entertained me. Well, there it is. On to the next episode I go.

>>46464092
Considering all things Japan, I could see this as the line the creator pitched to the production studio.

>>46464050
That's like... your opinion man.
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>>46463524
Kill la Kill
> Club: Fine Arts (Architecture) [Rolled3]
> Background: Student [-50CP]
> + Three-Star Student [-550CP]
> Goku Uniform (Three-Star) [Get a Freebie!]
> Makolingual [-100CP]
> Chef [-100CP]
> Gifted [Get a Freebie!]
> Too Cool For School [-200CP]
> Tailor [-300CP]
> Resolve [-200CP]
> Power Scanner [-100CP]
> Spirited Student (Disciplinary) [-100CP] [Rolled5]
> Misunderstood [+300CP]
> Cute [+400CP]

I am Aki Nekobake the Architectural & Engineering Chair. Joint Head of Non-Athletic Clubs, alongside Nonon.
Which means she prettymuch does everything.

Background... Aki used to be a sukeban (basically: a juvenile female gang leader), who -- similarly to Uzu -- watched as her entire gang was beaten by Satsuki, before engaging in combat herself, and losing.
Aki wasn't trying as hard as she could have, and that's where Satsuki chided her. Someone like her -- a mere stray who did not live to her full potential -- could never defeat one who fought with all their strength as Satsuki did.
That's what Satsuki said.

After that day, Aki followed Satsuki, but would still shirk her responsibilities at every opportunity... unless they were for Satsuki's benefit. For those tasks, Aki exhibited a hypercompetency that she would attempt to disguise, as if cultivating an appearance of laziness.
Aki provided many of the designs for Honnōji Academy and its territories, including student housing.
She also fights dirty. And makes a LOT of cat-related puns.
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So who else picked the Sunday Best origin to get... closer to one of their companions?
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I've been lurking a while and I need to ask.
Why do you go Drop-in? Why not?

Personally I go drop-in whenever possible. It's fun going in mostly blind. Lots of fun dealing with being a truly out of context factor. And also no extra baggage of memories, no family ties, no personal qualms, no past possible hang-ups. Unless that background offers unique perks or it's something really neat to deal with how a possible background would gel with my body mod and personality. I don't see much of a reason to go background.

Actually how would a normally good, kind hearted jumper work with a mostly evil or not so nice lifestyle/background/species? Like going Angel in evangelion, or Endarkened in Obsidian tower trilogy, etc
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>>46463524
Well. Okay?

Club: Hobby [Free Choice]
Drop-In
>perks:
Chef [Free] Food is good.
Dosh King [150] Having money is pretty nice too, I guess.
Radiant Presence [200] Shiny!
Resolve [400] Willpower stacking, as usual.
Fiber Hybrid [200] Increasing powah! Also, regen.
>uniforms:
Kamui [650] Gotta have the best of the best, no?
Conservatively Dressed [200] Best. Of. The. Best.
>drawbacks:
Target [+800] I... basically have to take this.

I would've liked to drop Dosh King to take Cute and Lost instead of Target... Buuut there's no 50cp option in the jump. And it hurts to have leftover cp. it burrrns.
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>>46464239
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>>46464273
>Spyro
>Been lurking for a while
Why tho

Anyway, I like having a new history and memories and REAL involvement with the characters and the plot. I like having family. I like having friends. I like having the character and plot hooks this involves. It lets me decide HOW I got my perks and items and drawbacks, instead of them just puffing up out of nowhere. It makes things a lot more fun.
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>>46464239
I was awfully tempted. But nah, I just went with being a fiber hybrid with my own kamui.
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>>46464273
Same, basically. I don't like becoming a whole new person every ten years. Puts a bad taste in my mouth.
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>>46463754
Oh. Yeah about same age as Thea. Remember she's Oliver's half sister. Merlyn is her pops. So you could be the twin, or maybe Oliver's pops also had a mistress. It's up to you, but you'd be around same age as Thea.
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>>46464273
>Personally I go drop-in whenever possible.

>your history of 'DROP IN MASTER RACE' and 'ORIGINS R SUCK'

Ya don't say.
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>>46464373
Hostility is bad.
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>>46464366
>Remember she's Oliver's half sister.
Uh...No, I didn't know that. Haven't quite finished season 1.

Huh. So Moira really was banging Merlyn?
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>>46464273
>2016
>Still going Drop-In
Ha! What a dork, amirite? Nah, I kid. I suppose it depends on the jump, if another background is more interesting story wise or has perks that I want, I'll go that direction. I also just like exploring new lives and histories in jumps, though I also enjoy going Drop-In and being the Outside Context Hero/Villain.
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>>46464273

I go for a pretty even split nowadays. Depends partially on discounts, partially on whether I think it would be a greater advantage to have no baggage or to have an established life, especially in worlds I'm not too familiar with.
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>>46464409
While normally I'd agree and wouldn't have posted that, having dealt with hostility from the guy leaves me feeling bitter and easily irritated with him, and thus leading to irrational decisions.

Making that my last post for today, to avoid shitting up the thread anymore.
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>>46464273
I tend to not go for drop in unless the perks are much better, mainly because a lot of shards of something gathering and becoming something better is a big part of my chain, and even if it has better perks, I plan on taking Cosmic Fact so I have some history in the Jump.
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>>46464273
I only go Drop-In if there's perks related to what I want. The extra memories and family I fluff as they're basically the same thing throughout the universes. Like you don't all sudden get a different parents, they're basically the same people back on Earth just slightly different.

Like you won't find your mom is your dad & mom South Park Reference but they might be younger, older, different skin tone/ethnicity/species all depending on the setting.
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>>46464018
sounds like youlost your way
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>>46464273
I prefer Drop-In backgrounds whenever possible just because, like others have said, being Outside Context can be both hilarious and fun. Backgrounds are nice to take for worlds prone to more easygoing backstories or settings, though.
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>>46464421
Yeah. Sorry I didn't realize you didn't know. Well I wouldn't watch Arrow past S2. Picture related (Warning minor spoilers).
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>>46464543
You've gone too far this time, you madman! Ruining Barry's life is one thing, causing the atrocity that was Arrow S3 is another!
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>>46463524
Origin:
Sunday Best-800cp
Classmates-300cp
Harassed+100cp

Super simple, but It's my companion's turn to kick some ass.I figure they can join a martial arts club, they've all been trained in various styles, and CQC. I'll let them use my personal equipment, so it should be an interesting time.

That, and being able to transform into clothes makes for some interesting possibilities in later jumps. And it was not at all related to >>46464239
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>>46464590
>>46464543
Was it really that bad? I heard the drama got kicked up to 11, but I didn't know it was supposed to be unwatchable or anything.
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>>46464273
I like being the wrench in the universe's clockwork, so Drop-In and the sort of perks it usually gets interest me more often than not. If I need an identity I can go full liesmith and fabricate one.

Backgrounds are for jumps I do for character interaction first, and altforms second.
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For the current debate about drop-ins.

http://strawpoll.me/7282409
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>>46464273
I just pick whatever gives the discounts I want.

If I have a background, I usually make some kind of story about my origin and my life before appearing in the jump, with related memories.
If I'm a Drop In, I have to make up a story about fitting into the world thereafter and setting up some kind of place to exist without too many questions. I don't really do "endless wandering".
And if I don't know enough about the setting to do either and I don't want to read a whole new wiki or sit through an anime, I just kindof say fuck it. That's my "going in mostly blind" option.

It's not exactly noble, but "how can I afford the things I want" is really the motivating factor.

The only thing that overrules it is if I really, really, REALLY want to tell a certain story, and then I just take whatever background correlates to that.
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>>46464239
That's a level of kink I'm not sure I want to head into yet.

>>46463524
Jump 21: Kill La Kill, Jumping on the Bandwagon Edition

Club: Crafts [Sewing] (Rolled)
Background: Drop-In (Free)

Perks:
+ Chef (Free)
+ Makolingual (100 CP)
+ Tailor (400 CP)
+ Dosh King (550 CP)
+ Stunt Driver (650 CP)

Companions:
+ Classmates (800 CP)

Equipment:
+ Life Fiber Spool (1200 CP)
+ Life Fiber Spool (1600 CP)
+ Anti-Fiber Weaponry (1800 CP)

Drawbacks:
+ Target (1000 CP)

I'll write more of a story for this later. Basically, since I could NOT resist toying with Life Fiber and because the dice commanded it be so, I would be far more interested in figuring out how Life Fiber works and how to replicate it than I would be fighting. I'd get drawn to Ryuuko's drama at some point because I'm an absolute sucker for short skirts and her outfit in general. I know, I'm lewd, glad you're on the same page as the rest of us now. Keep up. My Companions would not be very amused when I present them with their Outfits. Ryuuko is secretly relieved that not everybody is looking at her now.
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Hey for DDS Mantras, how does purchasing work, is it just 1 Mantra of that rank or is it 1 Mantra of that rank+ a path downwards to rank 1 or, i dunno what's the specifics
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>>46464724
>Strawpoll
NOTHING COULD GO WRONG
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>>46464724
>using strawpoll.
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>>46464724
>Strawpoll

H'oh boy buddy.
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>>46464754
Im dumb and just realized that's the second game, but the question still stands since that's also a evolution path
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>>46464273

I usually go for drop-in unless the perks for drop-in are related to companions or are just not interesting to me, which rarely happens.
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>>46464825
so Wikipedia is an actual spirit/demon or something?
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>>46464754
I'd say the latter, you get 1 Mantra of that rank and then Mantras from the lower ranks, but just for that type, so you'd get all the fire spells from previous ranks. If you grab an Almighty Mantra, like the ones from the Bonus Bosses, you pick an element.
>>46464864
Not really, it's just an odd name they choose.
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>>46464889
so if you choose Beelzebub for your mojo the bonus boss thing is a "you lose" drawback right? If you can't get more spirits in the jump like you could in the game there is no way to get one that will survive since he is a hard counter to his own abilities right?
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>>46464889
So how would that work with the 7 and 8 mantras in >>46464825 which require multiple paths. 9's are detached from the paths anyways so that answers that part
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>>46464913
Good God man, I've been Anon several times this thread>>46464590>>46464452>>46464278, chill out.
>>46464918
No, you can still get the Mantras in-jump, it's just harder than buying them.
>>46464983
You'd get both, but they'd be less powerful than usual.
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>>46464918
You'd still have Death Flies, which is Almighty, and any Physical or Hunt damage abilities you had.
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>>46464642
I've heard it gets really godawful in S4. Heard S3 was watchable, but still going downhill fast.
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>>46465050
Ah damn, that's disappointing.
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>>46465048
I thought it was death? And I need something with null gun to survive his attacks don't I?
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>>46459959
Wakfu's almost done, I hear. Just finishing wargear descriptions for each Aspect.
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>>46465110
Nope. Despite its name, Death Flies is an Almighty-element spell, not a Death-element one. It has a secondary effect that triggers if the opponent isn't immune to Death, but the main effect is Almighty. And Null Gun isn't necessary, most of his attacks are elemental or Almighty.
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>>46464918
Beelzebub is pretty much the third most brutal boss in DDS, but you can beat him in the game's first playthrough, so you can beat him in Jump. Just make sure you're immune to Instant Death, religiously Dekaja him, and are tough enough to survive one of his "fuck you" turns.
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>>46465213
that's the thing, I don't think I'm immune to instant death, it's a conceptual thing not a damage thing right? If it's a damage thing, I have rolling counter, heart of Steve, I am joined with the dog talisman, and have damn near every regeneration perk so I'm probably okay, but that's not my understanding of how it works. I'm thinking I'm going to go with Alice instead.
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>>46465295
Death-elemental attacks in SMT are instant death effects, yeah, not damage ones. Same with Expel.
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>>46463524
130. Kill la Kill

- Rolled Academic Club (Biology)
- Nudist [900 left]
- Acupuncturist [Free Nudist]
- Trapper [Discount Nuist] [800 left]
- Combat Acupuncture [500 left]
- Classmates [200 left]
- DTR [Discount Nudist] [0 left]
- Move On

>YES I WOULD LIKE TO JOIN YOUR ORGANIZATION
>I MERELY REQUIRE ACCESS TO YOUR RESEARCH FACILITIES
>YES MY ALLIES WILL BE JOINING YOU AS WELL
>MUAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
>AT LONG LAST
>THE SECRET OF MY PEOPLE IS MADE CLEAR
>AWAKEN MY MASTERS
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Ignoring the deletions going on right now, what's the best way for me and my companions to share Shard-based powers with each other?

We all got different powers in Worm and I want to see if I can get a standardized powerset for my group going.
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>>46463524
kill la kill +1000
misunderstood +300
cute +400 Nui is adorable. I think she’s cute too.
drop in free
fiber hybrid 200
kamui 650
conservatively dressed 200
tailor 300 building on my clothes theme
cook 100 take all the cooking
club sewing 100
dosh king 150

My plan is simple: 1) combine mantra thread and life fibers into an awesome dress weaving it by hand embroider mushoku tensei magic into it for good measure. 2) give it life with d&d magic. 3) infest it into a zerg 4) give it aura 5) name him steven. Upon completion of steven secondary objectives can be begun.
these are as follows
1.adopt harime nui for being incredibly cute, yes i am aware that she will be trying to maim me.
2. see if i can breed steven with similar creations.
3. launch clothing conglomerate to rival revocs.
4. freed ragyo to my new zerg clothing.
5. eat first life fibre to absorb its power
6. be actually decent parent to Hahrime Nui while
7. complete all prior objectives without suffering wardrobe malfunction.
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>>46465600
I feel I should know this reference... but it eludes me.
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Okay I should probably stop poking the hornet's nest
But!
Jumpers, if you need to turn a world into an RPG setting pronto, what do you do? (I'm planning on grabbing the soul shards from minecraft as well as the various building perks there. Still struggling with trying to afford Minefactory reloaded, so does anyone else know any good ways of mass-producing enchanted items?)
>>46465595
Er...I had AN idea for that but it's sort of stupid and cheesy.
Jumper Powered Warrior from Showa Kamen Rider Part 2. Give them Jumper Powered Warrior. Havoc ensues. If that seems cheesy, you can try and use Jumper Powered Warrior in conjunction with something like Echidna and have them all infect eachother, but that itself probably isn't exactly what you're wanting either.
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>>46465748
>Nui is adorable

This guy gets it
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>>46465773
Like... define RPG. Do you just mean adventuring fantasy? Or do you mean like "everything has statistics behind it"?
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>>46465773

What's Echidna?

And, wow. I completely forgot about Jumper Powered Warrior.Even though I made the damn jump it comes from
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So, Stands and Personas: How do they interact? Do you just have both, or do they combine? ...I wonder what would happened if Jotaro got a Persona and it fused with Star Platinum. Or DIO. Holy crap, DIO. Messiah would be the most ironic yet fitting Persona. Or is that The Universe Arcana?
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>>46465748
>adopting Nui
At least you are aware she will try and kill you even if that cuteness is just a facade.
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>>46465905
try to kill you I meant
Fuck I am tired.
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>>46465871
Adventuring Fantasy, yeah. Something like Dragon Quest.

>>46465878
KAMENJUMPER!!
Echidna is from Darkstalkers I believe? 800 Cp, lets you pick a single jump's build and make it infectious, sort of like vampirism and lycanthropy!
...Or you could use something like "Be My Mirror, my Sword and shield" from Actraiser but those are slightly more temporary?
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>>46465900
Fanwank it. Also, there are no Universe Arcana Persona's.
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>>46465900
>How do they interact? Do you just have both, or do they combine?

Player choice.
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>>46465773
Take Dungeoneering in Mushoku Tensei to create Dungeons, Jump Forgotten Realms to give people classes, Take Roguelike in Elona and use Amazo's Backup Notes to create a device which spreads the effect across the world, and plant the Sword of Mana to bring magic to the world.
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>>46465946

Eh, I think that might work. Use Echidna to give the rest of my companions Jumper Powered Warrior, upon which the power sharing can begin!

I lurk a lot. Kamen Rider is just the first jump I decided to actually namefag for.
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>>46465971
There's technically one, but it's the Great Seal that kills Minato to seal way Nyx.
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>>46465878
>>46466033
Kamen Jumper, I have some questions, if you could please answer them: The first one is can you create a Kingstone with the High Priest perk, and would the Creation King be able to take over you post-Jump if you take the option to be the actual Kamen Rider instead of a Dummy?
>>46465971
>>46465994
Oh, alright, thanks.
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>>46466070

You can't create a Kingstone with the High Priest perk. You CAN use a powerful enough substitute if you have access to one.

The Creation King would not be able to possess you post-jump if you choose to replace Kotaro.
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>>46465905
Nui's cute behavior is how she really is, at least in the beginning. It's just that her moral compass is so bent out of shape that she's indistinguishable from a sadist.
Remember how she asked Isshin what it felt like to have the masterwork he put his heart and soul into tear out his heart and soul? Nui's own masterwork involves Life Fibers, and her only goal in life is to be consumed by them. She genuinely thought she was doing him a favor, and that makes her even more horrifying.
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>>46466060
It is kind of weird how Makoto never actually gets the World Arcana and has a separate Universe Arcana that's unique just to him and can only make the Great Seal. Must be some Messianic hero thing.
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>>46466101
Hmm, I see. Is it at all possible to replicate the Kingstones, or is that off limits? I'm curious, because that would be useful. Also, what exactly would qualify as a powerful enough substitute? Thank you for your time, I appreciate your answers.
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>>46463524
my build was pretty meh. I don't have any great goals or ambitions for the world here. I probably will butt heads with Satsuki because I don't bow down and lick peoples boots but I think after I stomp the Disciplinary committee a few times they will just let me me.

Background: Drop In 0
Club: Hobbies (So I am a geek... yeah that's about right)

Perks:
*Dosh (ughh Cash) King (150, Discount)
>I love money but Dosh? Really? It's a stupid term.
*Ki Technique (300)
> I know Kung Fu... actually getting this to help boost other powers.
*Resolve (400)
> More Willpower perks? Sure thanks.
*Radiant Presence (200)
> So I now officially have the glow
Classmates (150, Discount)
>Yay, we can all be peasants together
Companion Promotion X 2 (200)
>More to get life fiver samples from their uniforms. However having a couple of people who are not looked at as total garbage in my group will be good.

Equipment:

Power Scanner (100)
> Should be useful in training myself and companions

Drawbacks:
*Harassed (+100)
> Some school bullies are going to have some very bad days. I try hard not to send anyone to the hospital.
*Cute (+ 400)
>Ahh Nui... well I really hope she wasn't important to the plot. I may have gotten a little annoyed and froze her in a block of Ice. I gave it to Satsuki as a gift... oddly she seemed pleased by this. I got a fruit basket in return.
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>>46460247
Metal Gear Solid/Rising

>>46460451
The last time I remember it being brought up, I was told it was founded on a nonsense rhyme that only worked because of a) Pucci's specific Stand ability, b) the rhyme's association with Dio's memories and c) the fact that Dio somehow turned one of his bones into a creepy green baby goblin thing

So-probably not.
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>>46466196
And of the two, MGS has the better CQC, but MGR has a better melee skill.
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>>46466002
Thank you! You're pleasant, Alice!
>>46466033
and I thank you for this. Kamen Rider is a momentous task that barely anyone had the ability to go for, but you did it was a gusto.
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>>46466154

You can easily replicate the Kingstones using that one perk from Minecraft that allows you to duplicate any item once a month.

As for a powerful enough substitute? Uh... Think something around the level of Chaos Emeralds and work from there.
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>>46466262
Okay than-
>Chaos Emerald
...oh boy. I'm concerned. Thanks anyway, Kamen anon.
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>>46466246
MGS & MGR CQC combined make you pretty awesome when it comes down to it.
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>>46466250

Thanks, although I wouldn't say I did it with gusto. I did the first two hoping someone else would do Heisei, only to start drawing mental plans for the rest. Life is unexpected like that. I still haven't finished that other jump I made a shitty WIP for months ago.

>>46466355

Kingstones are bullshit.
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>>46466262
Dosent that cost 1000cp with no discount ?
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>>46465535
>awakening your masters
>while Ragyo is trying to awaken her masters

There can be only one Ultimate Being, anon.
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Burgli becomes someone's imaginary friend! Perhaps the longest installment I've put in!

http://pastebin.com/yugey6tC
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>>46466519

I think so? Haven't looked at the Minecraft jump in a while.

That's the only way I can think of to copy them, as they don't actually say how the Kingstones are made in the show. Only that they're mystical and give the Century Kings their power.
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>>46466589
It is discounted for builder, but it's probably better to get Equivalent Exchange, throw a Kingstone into the input slot of a Energy Condenser, and keep throwing things in until you get a new one.
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>>46466698
*Output.
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If you used making if a myth from the sword and sorcery jump to make yourself your own persona what abilities would it have? What is your persona jumpers who are you?
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So, oh wisest Annons, I have a question; how exactly would I go about turning Sozin's comet into something usable as a Gem core, without completely nullifying it's power?
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Is this kosher?

>Blame! Silicon Life capstone Adaptive/Adaptation/Wotever, or Sword Art Online's Final Form
>Medaka Box - Lip Service to give Companions this perk.
>Let them use it to mix and match the parts and consolidate alt-forms
>Lip Service it back, leaving their final / alt / whatever form they made intact

Or would that form be dependent on them HAVING Adaptation / Wotever the fuck it's named - or Final Form - as a perk in their perk list?
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>>46466814
Just imagine having boosted firebending 24/7

Not sure if you can preserve its properties while turning it into a gem through whatever methods you're thinking.
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>>46466822
I'm pretty sure you need the perk to keep that mix-and-matched altform. Without it at best they'd just kinda snap back to being normal. At worst, they start dying from the inherent contradictions of being a demon-fairy-robot-shoggoth, their own physiology tearing them apart from the inside.
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>>46466741
Whatever abilities are standard for the Arcana, with some inclination towards what you are good with. As for my Persona, I plan on taking Morgan Le Fey as the Magician, then using Self Aware to evolve it into Sophia as the World to go with my Gnosticism themes.
>>46466814
If you would take advice from a non-anon, you should use the Crucible of Eight Trigrams from Journey to the West, to break it down into it's base components, with magic explicitly preserved, then use Trigram Knowledge and Manipulation to turn the transmute it into a gem.
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>>46465012
Can I purchase mantras in part 1 as a drop-in?
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>>46466814
You wouldn't. The comet itself has no inherent power, it's not made of magic firebending-boosting rock or anything like that. It enhances firebending because it's a comet, and bending is affected by heavenly bodies. Having a flaming (well, sublimating, but I don't think anyone in the world of Avatar knew the difference at that point) rock approach that closely to the planet tipped the balance of elemental energies towards Fire. If you grabbed it and compacted it down into a suitable stone for being a Gem core it would be just another rock, since it wouldn't be blazing across the sky burning with the light of the sun anymore.
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>>46466919
* from Journey to the West to
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>>46466924
You may, you just can't use them without a Demon form.
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>>46466957
Would that include Demon forms from other SMT jumps, or would it require an Atma Avatar-type Demon?
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>>46466877
FuckingshitgodfuckingbitchtitsmcgeefuckdicksdicksdicksgoddamnitFUCK.

So if I want to let my companions not have to worry about having a metric assbagton of alt-forms and instead shape their own body how they'd will it, I'm fucked unless I make a jump where something like that would feature.
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>>46466919
Neat that pretty cool. (Is it bad that i only know about Gnosticism because of Aeon Flux)
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>>46466992
Or you could just import them in Blame! and have them take the Silicon Life capstone. There's a companion import with enough points given to them to do that.
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>>46466992
Well you're certainly irritated.
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>>46466741
I'm pretty sure this came up before, and I got no damn clue if there was an actual ruling or general agreement on it.

Assuming you're allowed to do it at all, I'd assume it would have your signature techniques and greatest powers scaled downwards/upwards to Persona power levels and reformatted to fit the games' skill system and your chosen Arcana, bottom line being that you are not doubling your own power. Resistances and weaknesses would either be your actual elemental resistances/weaknesses, or connected to particularly notable moments in your legend (I think. Probably conflacting Persona stuff with Noble Phantasms). IE that time you no-selled a super-duper powerful pyrokinetic makes your persona immune/resistant to fire, that time you got fucked in half by a cryokinetic makes you weak to ice.

I'm not the jumpmaker, so take what I say with a nice spoonful of salt.

Hermit Nebiros, Devil Belial, Death Alice. My choices have less personal meaning than you'd hope, but more than you'd expect.
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>>46466992
Or you could just import them in EVO. It might help if you actually asked for jumps with those capabilities instead of just breaking out in Internet Tourettes.
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>>46467006
Thank you. (Only if it's wrong that I noticed it because of Mage the Awakening.)
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>>46466983
Atma Avatar, the Mantras were designed specifically to be used by them in order to teach them skills and magic they wouldn't have due to being "artificial" demons. Regular demons could just learn levels 1 through 6 on their own, easily. Post that, and it gets more iffy, with a definitive inability when it comes to learning Bonus Boss skills like, say, Fire of Sinai.
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>>46467023
Other origins would suit them better, is the thing.

That and I have more than the standard 8 - even if I maintain the '8 active at a time outside of Warehouse / LoT' which I'm trying to help in that regard.

>>46467026
To clarify - it wasn't at that guy. It was at my circumstances.
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>>46467057
Right, I figured that would be the case. Wouldn't make much sense to plug your digital devil tech into an analog devil. Just thought it was worth confirming.
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What are the strongest beings you could come across in a Jump?
Worm has Scion, Type-Moon has the TYPES, SMT has way too many things, etc.
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>>46467053
How's EVO going to help, that still leaves them with excess alt-forms.

Although it'd be easier to help them in that regard for those that didn't get imported.
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>>46467059
fuck me it forgot the second dash after the LoT mention.
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>>46466571
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VP7xTQf_qI
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>>46467087
SAO has a good perk. Allows you to use all the alt form abilities in any form.
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>>46467081
SCP has a lot of things, Fallen London has Judgments, Warhammer has the Chaos Gods, Index has a lot of things, Naruto has Kaguya, Darkest Dungeon has the Heart of Darkness, and Narnia has Aslan and the Satan Allegory.
>>46467131
The Problem is that he needs it for his companions who don't get any CP in SAO.
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>>46467080
No problem Anon, happy I could help.
>>46467081
Hmm, not sure if you could actually fight him, but ADAM from NGE was strong enough that, even after being impaled by a spear for several millennium, experimented on, and then stabbed again, he STILL took out most of the world. If he ever got revived at full strength, you'd be in for a lot of trouble.
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>>46467059
>>46467108
Golden Chains to stick Final Form / Adaptation into an artifact, which is then implanted into the companion in question.

>>46467131
You... didn't pay attention to anything that was said before, did you.
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>>46458749
pic related

>>46459954
My strategy as a drop in is to accumulate data and blend in for the first week or few days. The Public Library and various "know the local rules" perks helps a lot.
While I don't deliberately do it, I enjoy taking drop-in in settings with Fate and Destiny and then acting like a dimension-hopping monkey wrench in the works...if I can get away with it.

>>46460247
GUNNM. The various martial arts perks and especially Panzerkunst are great.
MMA Master from Inukami gives you five martial arts in one perk.
Fighter from Code Geass gives you four martial arts in one perk.
Killdozer from Tomb Raider
Mook Horror Show/Equilibrium/Trance from Modern Action Movie is nice because it doesn't specify hand-to-hand, so it also works for guns and other weapons.

>>46462879
Yeah I hate it when that happens. Both accidentally deleting shit (3D waifu turned off my computer and I lost the notes I was going to update Polity with) and researching something only to find it was stupid and a waste of time (the premise of the WIP Umineko jump intrigued me so I watched some (read: all) of the anime in preparation only to find out all the VN/manga fans consider it an awful adaptation, so learn from my mistake and don't do that).

>>46463524
Kill la Kill
Drawbacks: Lost, Cute
Total CP: 1700

Nudist (100/1600
Acupuncturist (0/1600)
Trapper (100/1500)
Combat Acupuncturist (300/1200)
Life Fibre Blade (300/900)
Fibre Hybrid (400/500)
Resolve (400/100)
makolingual (100/0)
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>>46467040
Howd ya get three personas i recognize the first two kinda otherwise but whos the alice? And thanks just fanwank it and use a particular past version of your self.

>>46467056
Ive never played magic but i dont judge.
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>>46467081
DC has The One Above All.

He is literally God. Well, he /was/ until that retarded Lucifer sequel killed him off somehow
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>>46467081
young justice has comic book darkseid, Marvel has the one above all, DC has the endless the new gods and The Presence, Lovecraft has Azathoth, Toriko has Neo ,Medaka Box has damn near every plot relevant person.
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>>46467239
Marvel has the One Above All. The Presence is DC. Even ignoring the Lucifer thing, the Monitor Overmind probably disproves him being omnipotent too.
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>>46467239
The one above all is marvel
Your thinking about GOD and yeah i dont mess with anything that will replace that original ending lucy had.
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>>46467238
Actually, not that anon, but you can have more than one Persona at a time.
>>46467239
>Killing off The Presence
What.
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>>46467151
>Golden Chains to stick Final Form / Adaptation into an artifact, which is then implanted into the companion in question.

I...

What do you guys think? Think this'd work, or would it just give them a copy of MY Final Form, instead of letting them put together their own?
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>>46467238
>Howd ya get three personas i recognize the first two kinda otherwise but whos the alice?
Not that anon, but I assume that one of them is their base, one is the Ultimate Persona they got for self-actualization, and one is the extra that Hidden Depths gives you. And Alice is a staple of the Persona games, she's the Alice Liddel of Alice in Wonderland fame and one of the strongest Death Personas.
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>>46467238
Alice and Demi-Fiend!
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>>46467238
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/43687399/#q43707738

Might need to CTRL+F the post number to get to the ruling.

Alice is a girl in SMT1 who Nebiros and Belial dote on. In later games, she's either brought back as an undead sorceress with unfathomable powers by the both of them, or turned into a demon due to inheriting the duo's powers after they died. She's one of the strongest Death Personas, and her incarnation in those games is more based on the Alice in Wonderland version than her Mainline incarnation.
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>>46467277
>>46467287
>The Presence

I'm a dummy who gets comic book omnipotents mixed up

>>46467307
http://www.readcomics.net/lucifer-2016/chapter-1

Here. Join in my suffering.

>>46467358
How did Alice get so buff anyway? Isn't she just a little ghost girl reanimated by some friendly demons? Why is she bonus boss-tier?
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>>46466945
That's...freaking brilliant! Holy crap! Thank you VERY MUCH.
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>>46467426
See >>46466932
That perk wouldn't do anything because there is nothing inherently magical about the comet. It boosts firebending because it'sa comet, not because it's magic.
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>>46467391
That's why, actually. She was revived by Belial and Nebiros, two of the most powerful demon lords in the franchise. This gave her incredible power, beyond that of most demons. In fact, it actually made her a Fiend in some games.
Also: AHHHHHHH, WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS BULLSHIT?! GODDAMN IT WHY COULDN'T THEY JUST LET IT END?!
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>>46467307
How? forgive me im not really well informed.

>>46467339
Huh alright then and why is alice from Wonderland so stronk. Thank you for the information.

>>46467358
>>46467384
Ok thats interesting.
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