Rolled 2, 1 = 3 (2d6)
Meanwhile Japanese Orcs are sex driven monsters, the Western Orc have near to zero interest on sex.
I think the orcs reflects what exactly the audience wants to see. Am I right?
>>46436593
Only Warhammer orks are sexless violence machines. Western orcs were usually considered rapacious savages (see the standard Half-Orc "unpleasant story" spiel), until it became viewed as too obvious of an analog with stereotypes about blacks.
>>46436593
It's Japan, they have different standards when it comes to selling sex. We generally like to keep our porn and our fiction more separate.
>>46436646
>Western orcs were usually considered rapacious savages
What settings are you talking about? I haven't seen much orc rape in my preferred fantasy franchises.
>>46436715
>What settings are you talking about? I haven't seen much orc rape in my preferred fantasy franchises.
The Orcs in DnD, and most other fantasy settings, really, are there pretty much to fulfill the stereotypical role of "barbarian raiders" (well, that and act as mooks in a vilalin's armies and as xp fodder for low- to midlevel adventurers): rapacious savages that pillage and burn civilized lands. Rape might not be directly mentioned, since that's not something people like bringing up, but it's implied. The standard backstory for hald-orcs is still "mom got raped by orcs", even if they don't usually say it so directly.
>>46436833
>rape is implied
I get what you are saying, but if it's not directly included, I prefer to ignore it. And in OP's examples, the sex isn't implied.
>>46436593
>>46436715
Western Orcs are often rapists, either explicitly or implicitly. D&D 5e states that half-Orcs which are NOT the product of rape are in the minority. The Fellowship of the Ring mentions that Arwen's mother suffered "torment" at the hands of the Orcs. It is not explicitly called rape, but that is the clear implication.
>>46436876
Because here is an worksafe board.
I had to do that.
Also the orks are being so used for sex that they are doing it reverse, showing then as non rapist.
>Western orcs
>posting 40k fungus monsters instead of Warcraft noble savages with their outrageous muscles and huge packages
I think you've missed the whole scope of sexy orcs that the west has to offer. It's just that Japanese ones are rapist pig men and Western ones are enormous homobait.
Even D&D is copying the Warcraft model these days.
>>46436646
>until it became viewed as too obvious of an analog with stereotypes about blacks.
Stereotypes exist for a reason.
What if orcs in the setting is just a synonymous for human barbarian?
We need more strong female orcs raping elf shotas.
>>46437022
Fun fact! Orc was originally an Anglo-Saxon word meaning "savage" or "invader". Tolkien used it when he invented Orcs as a species because it fit their role in the story.
>>46437027
Not exactly but here.
>>46437148
I don't get it.
>>46436593
>Meanwhile Japanese Orcs are sex driven monsters, the Western Orc have near to zero interest on sex.
Cool general statements, faggot.
>>46436885
>>46436646
These.
>>46437022
Then you've got Frazetta's "Subhumans"
>>46437219
There are an illustration about this huge orc woman and the shota knight.
This illustration is an crossover with this "orcs".
>>46436885
You can't rape Tolkien's elves. You knew the thought was in his head though, because he specifically mentioned that if you tried to do anything like that which befouled them in such a way the terror and evil would just straight up cause them to die on the spot before you could even get your dick in.
Western orcs are dead killy
Jap orcs are a joke
>>46437311
Finnaly, I found it.
>>46437311
So the girl in >>46437148 is meant to be the shota's daughters?
>>46437459
Nope. Just crossover.
>>46437341
>Jap orcs are a joke
Given that they're a low tier fantasy enemy, yes they are. Along with slimes and skeletons, orcs are either joke material or murderfodder.
>>46436593
>Meanwhile Japanese Orcs are sex driven monsters
That is a racist stereotype
#NotallOrcs
>>46436593
>Japanese Orcs are sex driven monsters
You didn't even look at your pic, Elves are the one who are constantly driven by sex!
Also: http://imgur.com/a/uliLm (NSFW)
Orcs are pure! Pure!
http://exhentai.org/g/919503/f975fa64bf/
warning: gets sad
>>46436593
>>46438771
Do you have a less sad pandering link?
>>46438946
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/919503/f975fa64bf/
>>46439129
That's the same link
>>46436593
I think Japanese orcs draw from oni and other demon lore, while western orcs draw from the contributions of Tolkien who used an Anglo-saxon mythological foundation.
>>46439228
Anon, pls
>>46439129
Thank you.
But why sad. Compaired to many other storys this one got a happy end
>>46439258
did you read all 4 parts?
>>46436885
>D&D 5e states that half-Orcs which are NOT the product of rape are in the minority.
[citation needed]
All I can find about their creation is in PHB 40:
>orc and human tribes sometimes form alliances, joining forces into a larger horde lo the terror of civilized lands nearby. When these alliances are sealed by marriages, half-orcs are born.
>>46439278
>>46439255
>>46439129
>>46438771
>Turns into NTR shit and snuff.
Anon you're a shit. That human is a shit too. Why even bother linking that?
>>46439418
i did warn you, not my fault if you can't read.
>>46439278
Oh he's fine. It's just a flesh wound. In the end they made it
>>46439430
I was kinda hoping the human would just die. Normal stuff. This stuff is so bad I'm wondering why you'd link it.
>>46439431
The human being constantly raped and turned into a cockwhore who NTRs the orc ruins any kind of good vibes it could've had even if you think the orc survived.
>>46439466
i don't know how you can be on 4chan with such thin skin.
>>46439516
I don't think being on 4chan requires me to enjoy this kind of porn, anon. All I did was call you a shit for linking it.
>>46438771
>>46439129
Too much rape, too little story. Probably worth checking out if you fap to Kazoku Keikaku's comics though.
>>46439466
>>46440497
I'm sure. Not in that comic tho
>>46437339
That's the gayest thing I've ever heard. I've never read any of Tolkien's books.
His elves sound like garbage.
>>46440724
They're Mary Sues.
>>46436593
>I think the orcs reflects what exactly the audience wants to see. Am I right?
You are wrong. The big difference is that Japan is pretty much feminist free. Combine this with their concept of tatemae and honne (discussing sex in public is shamefur dispray, but you're free to fap to triple penetration tentacle porn in your free time) and sex is barely a taboo subject as long as it's limited to certain spheres (mostly the private sphere).
Compare the West where bringing up sex is almost certain to trigger someone with access to a blog or twitter and even famous comic book icons unironically discuss the great issues of our time like "fatshaming" and "mansplaining".
In short, Japan's great strength lies in its ability to not give a fuck about how many people get triggered. Hell, a bunch of female mangaka even banded together to tell the UN to fuck off with their attempts to ban loli and manga depicting "violence against women".
Culturally Japan is on the same level as Murika and Europe were in the 1950s, and that's a good thing.
>>46440595
!!!
>>46440820
What the fuck is mansplaining?
>>46440136
...it's hentai. How much story were you possibly expecting?
>>46437010
And that reason is often divorced from truth.
If it benefits you to think a certain way, then you will think a certain way.
>>46440911
Behold the epic tale of some guy ruining paradise and slowly starting to spread his corruption
http://nhentai.net/g/159736/
>>46440906
The feminist definition is more or less what happens when men condescendingly explain things to women that they already know, as if their masculinity makes them more knowledgeable or intelligent.
Rational people recognize mansplaining for what it is: any given instance when a man contradicts a woman, feminism or both.
>>46440906
When a man explains things. Because radfems think men are telepathic (see: yes does not mean yes and you should always know when a girl actually means yes), they assume that if a man explains something to a woman it's because he assumes she's stupid and needs things spelt out for her.
The ironic thing is what the guy is saying is under the influence of the lasso so they're getting pissed off at him for telling the truth.
![manly-tears-1[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/zFNEDny.png "manly-tears-1[1].png")
>>46440911
>How much story were you possibly expecting?
http://www.doujin-moe.us/9224mh1v
Oh dear, it looks like it's raining.
>>46440906
Typcialy a man explaining something that women don't like, it could be correct or incorrect but mansplaing is presented that the man is patronizing the woman by doing this and thus oppressing her. Remember this the next time a woman near you fucks up and you explain why she is wrong. It's a trend for man to be added to the front of things that are being seen as evil even if it's being, IE manspreading, mansplaning, manslaming, manterupting, ect ect. Take an act that people could be anoyed at add man to the front of it to gender it and say how it negatively effects women every day.
>>46441012
>they're getting pissed off at him for telling the truth.
Getting pissed and assaulting him, unless there's some ticking time bomb scenario going on and they're trying to get some way to disarm it this is just pandering to female on man violence AKA femfatal which I woudl think feminist would want stopped.
>>46440906
Is feminist lingo to say "i can't answer your argument in any meaningful way and it would appear that you're objectivelly in the right. However, since you're white and male, you're still wrong".
>>46440906
It's basically just a much more specific version of 'Being condescending/patronizing'. In this case, due to gender.
Like say, if a girl joined a RPG group and people treated her like she was a newbie player despite her being a veteran at the game because they didn't think a girl would know RPGs.
While I can't say it never happens (People will patronize others on basically everything every), I'm not sure it's a term that needed to exist and really makes it sound like it's an exclusively one way thing as the inverse term has almost never been used.
>>46438507
I love this. I wish he did another featuring the Orc
>>46440724
>His elves
>>46440820
>Japan's great strength lies in its ability to not give a fuck about how many people get triggered.
People in Japan don't care about what others think?
They just didn't use the word "trigger" as much in the 50's, you fool.
See
>>46440940
>If it benefits you to think a certain way, then you will think a certain way
>>46441318
Diddn't he want to make a three parter? Who knows what happens if slime and orc fuse to form the ultimate rapetron-mindbreaker 9000
>>46441308
>I'm not sure it's a term that needed to exist and really makes it sound like it's an exclusively one way thing as the inverse term has almost never been used.
If you need to ask that you aren't thinking why you would push such a gendered term and push it into "accepted" usage in such quick order.
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/mansplain
>>46441373
>If it benefits you to think a certain way, then you will think a certain way
While that may be true, that's no argument against the truth of my statement. It is unquestionable that feminism, especially third wave feminism, is A LOT weaker in Japan than in other countries. On top of that Japan's tatemae and honne constructs aren't something I just pulled out of my ass.
Even if it would benefit me to think a certain way, that does not automatically disprove the facts that brought me to my mode of thinking. So get to toppling those facts or get to blogging on tumblr.
>>46440911
You prolly much haven't read Dance 'till Tomorrow or My Lovely Ghost Kana yet?
It's perfectly possible to combine porn and lots of things.
>>46440906
Not what happened in that image. It's capeshit, so generally you should expect them to get everything wrong, inculding stuff that's part of their own fictional universe.
>>46437341
I like that under his big mecha-underbite, someone lovingly tied a little necklace of claws(teeth?) around his suit. It's the little details that show how much the boyz care for their Warboss.
>>46440724
It's called light fantasy, of course it's gay and shit.
>>46436593
My orks are savage pig/hogmen shunned by all. Orcs in other hand are the classical green thugs but they ceased to exist in the last millenia.
>>46441500
>Even if it would benefit me to think a certain way, that does not automatically disprove the facts that brought me to my mode of thinking. So get to toppling those facts or get to blogging on tumblr.
Okay.
>Japan's great strength lies in its ability to not give a fuck about how many people get triggered
This is not a fact.
My assertion is that Japan, or rather its people, are easily “triggered”, and they are very worried about “triggering” others.
It’s just that Japan’s “triggers” are not feminism inspired or tumblr related
(which you evidently seem to benefit so much from believing that makes them superior that you ignore them)
To make my point succinctly:
Might not an individual publicly displaying their honne and ignoring their tatemae in an act of devoid of self-control “trigger” those who witnessed the shameful display?
Might a typical Japanese individual be concerned, or “give a fuck about”, how many people got triggered in such away?
Might they seek do avoid doing so, even accidentally?Not 100% sure I used honne and tatemae right there, but I made my point
Not all that triggers is sjw, anon.
Tumblr has affected the way you see the world, my friend.
One more reason I do my best to ignore it entirely.
Now orcs?
They truly don’t give a fuck.
They have a deep and ancient culture full of celebrated social customs that outsiders are not aware of because they mostly involve eating your face while you scream, choking on your own blood.
>>46437341
That's not a western Orc, that's an Arabic Orc.
>>46450038
Are you making a joke about Britain?
>>46450050
Yes. Seriously though, Orks suck.
>>46450071
Why do you dislike them anon? Are they not very similar to the default orc, only less rapetastic?
>>46450078
No, just too 40k.
I'd take Warham Fantasy Orcs if anything. Even Age instead.
>>46436833
Implied in DnD, *except* for 4th edition. At that time, not wanting to even imply rape, yet not wanting to just have 'Orcs' as a race instead, they declared that Half-Orcs were magically created by the Ancient Hobgoblin Empire.
I'd like to think the design staff created a drinking game around trying to say 'Ancient Hobgoblin Empire' with a straight face.
>>46436593
Because Japan is sexually repressed
It's all kept hush hush in public, so you really begin to delve deep into fucked up shit since noone will find out.
Personally i think it's because the whole "Orc rape" is boring/cliched as fuck
>>46438771
I have no doubt this is going to end up as rape/ntr or mindbreak, it's just so fucking dull
>>46438507
Despite good artwork, it's still boring
>>46436593
Western Orcs have sex all the time. By that I mean slaughtering a hundred humies is like a 15 minute long orgasm to them.
I wonder what Orkz think of Japanese Orcs.
>>46451007
That's an average of one kill every 9 seconds, and that's pretty brutal. Maybe he averages higher than that and takes a breather in between, or maybe he frontloads all that killing and it peters out towards the end.
>>46437339
you are fucking retarded
tolkiens orcs are the product of elves being tortured and poisoned for milenias by morgoth.
some uruk-hai are created by forced cross-breeding of orcs and savage men.
>>46451063
Japanese Orcs are like Savage Orcs from Warhammer Fantasy, but the 2e version where they had sex with humans and formed tribes with human barbarians and half-orcs.
Or Jay Naylor's wolf folk but more prone to violence and without any interest in turning human males into females.
>>46451549
>tolkiens orcs are the product of elves being tortured and poisoned for milenias by morgoth.
>some uruk-hai are created by forced cross-breeding of orcs and savage men.
Sort of wrong, sort of right. Tolkien never actually decided what the true origins of Orcs are. He said in an interview once he hadn't really ever wanted to say anything for sure.
So they could be naturally occurring things Morgoth recruited, they could be corrupted men, corrupted elves, or a mix of the two.
The only thing they can't be is an outright creation since Morgoth couldn't create from nothing, only twist and corrupt.
>>46451674
silmarillion clearly speaks about the corruption and torture of elves
>>46451674
>I've never read the Simarrilion: the post
>>46451730
>>46451706
While the Silmarillion does speak about that, the book itself was comprised of bits and pieces of JRR's semi-finished work and stuck together with some entirely new material by his eldest son. I don't remember which parts are which, nor can I be bothered checking, but it's possible that tortured elves was an idea that he never intended to be the final product or that it's a new invention by his son.
>>46436593
Because your experience of 'Japanese orcs' comes from hentai.
>>46440992
So those women already knew that girls should stay feminine, sweet, and wholesome but that sick culture wants to turn them otherwise, so the guy they forced to speak is just patronizing them with truths they already knew?
>>46441041
Oh god not this one, my heart can't take it.
>>46436646
You're forgetting the True Orcs and the LOTR Orcs, neither of which are rapacious savages. DnD Orcs aswell as Elder Scrolls orcs don't have such a reputation either. TF are you talkin' about?
>>46440911
After you reach a certain threshold of deviance, you sometimes stop seeking stranger things and instead regress to the point where you retain all the deviance, but also require feels. A boner in your heart to match the boner in your pants, so to speak.
I think it was probably Rustle's doujins that got me.
You're basing your view of jap orcs exclusively on hentai, OP?
>>46440911
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/230766/8fe4e251c0/
Nothing better than porn with plot (even if sometimes the story kills the boner)
>>46451549
That's one theory. But you couldn't rape elves. I never said you couldn't torture them.
>>46436593
>not having your Okrs as Mean Green Dancing Machines (TM)
Having an entire race of party animals is pretty fucking sweet. They play heavy metal, headbang, crowdsurf, dance all night, fight with each other, ride motorbikes, wear slick leather jackets and in general don't give a single fuck.
Just imagine an average British soccer fan crossed with a heavy-metal fan, and you got the orks.
>>46436593
my orcs are the orcs of WHFB and Warcraft 2.
Bad and scary war machines.
