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>>46352665
Anyone have any good DM stories from nWoD or cWoD
>>46352562
Well, the Srizaku make slightly more sense now.
>>46352792
How does Beneath the Skin work out? After all skinchanger are 1E while Demon is 2E.
Also whats the Age for it?
>>46352870
I imagine the Ivory Claws probably have Father Wolf's Omphalos Stone in one of their many laboratories. Or at least part of it.
>>46352914
I doubt the Ivory Claw had Father Wolfs Heart. Mostly because they did not take part of killing Father Wolf.
>The Sundered World's Chapter Fiction involves a Mage requiring the help of an entire Pack of Werewolves to take down one of the Pangaeans, just to get its Heart.
Worth noting that werewolves' natural weapons always count as a Bane for Pangaeans, which is why they're such good allies for the hunt.
>>46353033
What I thought their natural weapons was the Bane of Father Wolf. Are all Pangaean week to the hunters teeth?
>>46352912
They rework Skinchanging into a single Merit for 2e which they include in the section, though it's a lot more broad than original 1e. Like some of the examples of things you can change into include ghosts, rage spirits, etc.
>>46352912
Aztecs
>>46353085
All Pangaeans count Werewolf natural weapons as a Bane, inlcuding Father Wolf.
So about that Electricity-Claimed Nossie Bloodline, I've had some ideas for the discipline name and a game-play version of their weakness.
The Bloodline-specific Discipline they have is called Volta and they also have Nightmare and Obfuscate, but they've dropped Vigor for Celerity. With Volta, you can use it to manipulate electricity in living and nonliving things (Redirect it, overload it, short it out, etc cetera) and when you reach 5 dots of Volta you can generate electricity within yourself and hurl it at people.
Now their take on the Nosferatu curse is actually tied to their use of Volta; the more dots they have the more blackened and charred their bodies will appear, and the more electricity will arc across their injuries. The second thing that Volta is tied to is this: Whenever one of the members of this bloodline uses a power from Volta they must roll against their BP+their dots in the Discipline, if they fail they suffer a breaking point away from Humanity (This may include picking up a Derangement but I'm not sure about that yet, though I do know that frying your brain with electricity be bad, yo).
Also, while their origins mean they can draw from Locii to restore their Vitae, this also means that they can ONLY feed upon things with an Essence score.
Did I do good or did I do bad? keep in mind I have no clue what sort of name this Bloodline should have, but I do think that a popular nickname would be Sparkplugs or Circuit-Breakers.
>>46353085
Yup, all Pangaeans.
On a side-note, I'm surprised there haven't been any comments on the nature of the First Pack.
>>46353168
I'm guessing they're the wolf hosts from night horrors.
>>46353179
>>46353168
These guys. Adarusharu, the Hungry Teeth.
>>46353168
What about the First Pack!?!
I don't have the book yet so I'm in the Dark intill people tell me things.
So please tell me about the First Pack, they are first born, right? Right?
>>46353221
>So please tell me about the First Pack, they are first born, right? Right?
The First Pack was the first pack of werewolves. The Firstborn are Father Wolf's children with other gods. People always get them mixed up.
In the Neolithic, the First Pack is still around, but they're dangerous assholes.
>>46353272
>The First Pack was the first pack of werewolves.
well
they're thought to be werewolves
Yeah, later eras' tales of the First Pack don't quite match up with the monstrosities of the past.
>werewolf history is like porn
>urfarah comes along, starts whackin it, babies pop up everywhere, then a constant flow of women spirits walk in on him and are like "oh my I had no idea you were here...what big teeth you have...what a big dong you have" and get nailed by a pangaean and have some firstborn or an uratha or something
>>46353504
One thing's for sure...Father Wolf was a dog.
Are there any mage archmasters besides the Oracles during The Sundered World era?
If so, what might they be up to?
>>46353676
>thinking the oracles are real
>>46353676
The Oracles don't even exist in the Sundered World
Taking requests for Dark Eras spoilers!
>>46353723
Is that explicitly stated?
It also doesn't address the archmaster issue during the period.
>>46353504
>then Helios gets mad that Father Wolf gets Luna knocked up instead of him
And that's why the sun hates wolf people.
>>46353793
How werewolves changed in Neolithic era.
>>46353880
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxTQKxyJyxw
NAAAAAAAAAA
>>46353793
The Sundered World seems to be getting all the Mage love.
Let's see some of the new Mage material added to the Alexander era after the Kickstarter draft.
>>46353840
They were never explicitly stated to exist in the first place, anyways, were they? Just another theory the Awakened have about the possible answer of a Mystery.
>>46353880
>>then Helios gets mad that Father Wolf gets Luna knocked up instead of him
Maybe not, actually
There is a Firstborn that has people raise up temples to the Sun
>>46354002
>"PRAISE THE SUN!"
>>46353943
Any differences like this for mages?
>>46354060
Here you go. They're called the Wise
>>46354132
Mages get a free dot a occult by joining an order, cool.
>>46353148
Do they something similar to this for werewolf/geist Viking era?
>>46353957
It was all posted last thread or on the blog; an Egyptian great cult, a description of thr Astral Realms at the time, a new Legacy called the Nagaraja (posted last thread), and a Proximi Dynasty called the Myrmidons (last thread).
Stop asking for To The Strongest; it's literally all already been spoiled.
>>46354132
>They're called the Wise
They more things change, the more they stay the same.
>>46354228
>description of the Astral Realms at the time
Where? I missed that one.
>>46354228
Give us stats for Pangaean then I think I would be good.
>>46354132
>>46354174
>Mages get a free dot a occult by joining an order
If Occult is still favored Rote skill for the Mysterium, that's a nice little extra bonus.
BTW, what are the different Path tools for mages in the Sundered World?
>>46354267
theonyxpath.com/going-back-in-time-mage-the-awakening-dark-eras/
They describe the Suzugoi, gods of the Arcana.
>>46354293
>BTW, what are the different Path tools for mages in the Sundered World?
Path Tools: Sky-Wise tools resonate with the Path when
crafted from feathers, the bones of birds, thorns, woven flax,
or natural crystals.
Path Tools: Forest-Wise tools resonate with the Path when
crafted from scorched stone, wood, wolf-bone, and leather.
Path Tools: Water-Wise tools resonate with the Path when
crafted from copper or clay, from driftwood, or from stones
from the riverbed.
Path Tools: Storm-Wise tools resonate with the Path when
crafted from charred wood or bone, or obsidian.
Path Tools: Blood-Wise tools resonate with the Path when
crafted from any sort of bone or wood, or if the Wise one’s
own blood is a major component in the crafting.
>>46354293
Path Tools: Sky-Wise tools resonate with the Path when crafted from feathers, the bones of birds, thorns, woven flax, or natural crystals.
Path Tools: Forest-Wise tools resonate with the Path when crafted from scorched stone, wood, wolf-bone, and leather.
Path Tools: Water-Wise tools resonate with the Path when crafted from copper or clay, from driftwood, or from stones from the riverbed.
Path Tools: Storm-Wise tools resonate with the Path when crafted from charred wood or bone, or obsidian.
Path Tools: Blood-Wise tools resonate with the Path when crafted from any sort of bone or wood, or if the Wise one’s own blood is a major component in the crafting.
>>46354268
All Pangeans treat Uratha natural weapons as their bane.
>>46353793
What can you tell us of the Yama Kingsfrom the Three Kingdoms.
Well I think they are from the three kingdoms.
>>46353793
Is Lu Bu followed by spirts of War and Ambition?
>guy on the forums paid to add 10k wordcount to the Mummy chapter
>they ignored what he requested and added a bunch of stupid shit instead
oh my god
>>46354333
>>46354368
Thanks.
Do mages use the standard Path tools and materials in the Alexander era?
>>46354219
There's no merit for Sin-Eaters, but they replaced the Industry Key with Forge, and added some new Ceremonies.
God's Own Country gets a new table for Industry modifiers
>>46354482
Say what?
>>46354482
go away atamajakki
>>46354494
>Acanthos: Amulets, dice, lots, divination tools, and texts that record secret names. Daggers, bows, and javelins.
>Mastigos: Geometric designs such as mandalas, papyri with philosophical tracts, mirrors. Elephant goads, curved blades, and whips.
>Moros: Bones, jewels, money, and gold. Maces and hammers.
>Obrimos: Ash, fire, crowns, scepters, and other symbols of rule. Spears and swords.
>Thyrsos: Stone fetishes, green branches, water from sacred streams. Axes, hunting weapons, and farming tools.
>>46354465
The Yama Kings are just what they call the Kerberoi.
>>46354494
Acanthos: Amulets, dice, lots, divination tools, and texts that record secret names. Daggers, bows, and javelins.
Mastigos: Geometric designs such as mandalas, papyri with philosophical tracts, mirrors. Elephant goads, curved blades, and whips.
Moros: Bones, jewels, money, and gold. Maces and hammers.
Obrimos: Ash, fire, crowns, scepters, and other symbols of rule. Spears and swords.
Thyrsos: Stone fetishes, green branches, water from sacred streams. Axes, hunting weapons, and farming tools.
>>46354457
Pangaeans get Influences, Numina, Arcana AND yet more powers (and can enter everywhere inthe Astral)!?!
Holy Crap!
>>46354507
He asked for more material on the Deceived and Shuankhsen of the Era, and instead they added random encounter tables and mortal NPCs.
>>46354521
No.
>>46354559
>>46354568
Thanks again for the tool info.
I wonder when gold transitioned from a Moros to Obrimos material.
>>46354572
They are also natural creatures of the world. So probably just like werewolves can exist in the Anima Mundi with no problems.
>>46354584
>He asked for more material on the Deceived and Shuankhsen of the Era
Well dang, that would have been great. I wonder if not doing that was CAS's call (to preserve Mummy's "secrets", he seems like that type) or the chapter writer's call (random encounter tables are like the comfort food of the tabletop gamer).
Highlights of the Skinchangers/Demon chapter:
>A handful of samurai somehow wound up in the Aztec Empire.
>One Arisen meret used Infrastructure to teleport here from the Murapa Empire.
>Dinosaurs.
So, Beast is out.
Anyone wanna link it?
>>46354770
No thanks.
>>46354584
Mummy is so clearly the Orpheus of CofD that it's not even funny; a rump gameline loved by a small cadre of vocal idiots who've never actually played it.
>>46354770
>>46354818
I, for one, am curious if the final PDF includes any substantial changes from the backer draft that might have improved the book, even if only a little bit.
Were there any Vampire-specific eras in Dark Eras?
>>46354628
But they don't exist in the Twilight, which is weird.
>>46354847
I've been running Mummy for years. It's fun, pulpy horror with a system that's a bit janky. You're kind of right in that it does have a campaign it'd really, really like you to play, like Orpheus did. There's certainly some of that in its DNA.
>>46354718
>>Dinosaurs.
Of course there were dinosaurs, everything is better with dinosaurs.
>>46354938
Elizabethan London, which they later also added Changeling to. The Companion will also have a crissover with Promethean set during the
Black Plague.
>>46354847
I'll take fans that have never played it over critics that have never read it. Almost every criticism I've seen of Mummy stems from a fundamental misreading of the book.
>>46354911
Why not just admit that concept was too abstract from the beginning and never coalesced into a game that was a.) interesting or b.) suitable for crossver.
About the only worthwhile thing I've taken away from Beast was the mechanics of Advanced and Epic Merits.
>>46354938
I can't blame them for not putting in too much considering VtR already had the best alternate time period books already out for it, especially Requiem for Rome.
>>46355032
I, too, have certainly have offered ample criticisms of Beast for a variety of reasons. However, I would still prefer to judge the final product rather than the various drafts.
>>46355020
> Almost every criticism I've seen of Chronicles of Darkness games stems from a fundamental misreading of the books.
ftfy
>>46355020
>The Companion will also have a crossover with Promethean set during the Black Plague.
Why do I get the feeling that the Phages would have had a field day back then.
>>46355020
>Elizabethan London
So, how's the chapter?
Any new and interesting insights into vampires?
>>46355032
Lairs are still cool. I like that you're encouraged to create a visual representation of your combined Lairs, essentially creating a superdungeon.
>>46355085
Why? Do you actually believe there will be any substantive changes considering how hostile Matt was to his critics in the beginning? How tone deaf he was to their criticisms? Or even how the playtesters were utterly ignored when they brought legitimate gripes about the utterly broken game mechanics?
Garbage in, garbage out. My only comfort is that beyond the Heroes book and the Anthology we'll likely never hear from this failed gameline ever again. It'll die the quiet, ignoble death that it should have suffered at conception.
>>46355108
>So, how's the chapter?
Psst.
Hey. Hey kid.
You didn't get this from me. What you want is in here.
>>46355095
I think the Morbus are confirmed for it, as are the Lineage of Fire that predates the Frankensteins.
>>46355108
We get two new (old?) covenants, the Gallow's Post and the Weihann Cyn; the former are couriers and travel escorts, the latter are pagan pact-makers.
>>46354974
>Of course there were dinosaurs, everything is better with dinosaurs.
I can only imagine the reaction to an alternate CofD setting that focused on dinosaurs, gay werewolves and mages. /wodg/ would explode.
>>46355186
There actually were substantive changes. Ironically, they made the people who liked Beast originally hate it, and the critics just refuse to read it.
>>46355205
>Weihann Cyn
>welsh vampires
As if the sheep didn't have enough to worry about from the living ones.
>>46355203
All I'm getting is an error when I click on the doc.
The plural of Idigam should be Idigams.
What were those critics to Beast?
>>46355228
>Rawr I'm an otherkin who kills people for fun
>Rawr I'm an otherkin who hurts people to teach them that hurting people is wrong, but then I kill them anyway
Not an improvement.
>>46355252
Are you on a mobile? It's a PDF.
>>46355262
>>Rawr I've been eaten by a mythological horror who scares people to teach them lessons, but I kill them if I'm a psychopath
>>46355218
I pitched an April Fools book that would be just dinosaurs. Children's book-style, but with statblocks and art and all that stuff. Plus supernatural dinosaurs. Strix Pteranodon, Vampire T-Rex, like that.
Didn't take.
>>46355186
DaveB mentioned that he wrote one of the stories in the Beast Anthology that's includes a Beast, Mastigos and Bastet(!) roaming around together the Temenos.
Do you think Dave might actually make Beasts interesting, if only for a very short while?
>>46355262
Oh look, it's the idiot who ignores the Unique IP's, everyone laugh at him.
>>46355259
A Beast's primary drives are intensely sociopathic even though the writing tries to cast them as victims avenging themselves on their oppressors. Outside the sheltered bubble of the writers own sick murder fantasies though it comes across to nearly ever mentally stable reader as the meandering manifesto of a school shooter.
>>46355287
But what if the Gangrel Progenitor was a dinosaur.
>>46355186
You know they're developing a Player's Guide and an ST Guide, right? Geist 1e was an anomaly, all new CofD lines get at least 3 splats that aren't Kickstartered in.
>>46355287
Sounds like the Archer S1 bonus ep
Ask for spoilers from something other than Mage for the love of God
>>46355307
I mean, if anything Beast could make some really interesting fiction. Things like Lairs and whatnot make for some amazing narrative devices, but as a roleplaying game and especially as something shoehorned as a special snowflake character into sessions of another gameline those same strengths become crippling weaknesses.
Would any ST here honestly allow a player to bring a Beast character into their Vampire or Mage game?
>>46355287
Oh yeah, this year's April Fools book should be out this Friday, if the Paradox purchase didn't put the kibosh on that.
>>46355362
Post some new Dread Powers.
>>46355377
I've always thought the April Fools stuff was kind of stupid, desu. I mean, if something funny comes to them organically, sure post it up and let everyone get a chuckle but too many times it seems like they're just trying too hard to make something silly funny in time for the April 1st deadline and it falls flat.
>>46355362
>ask for spoilers from something other than Mage for the love of God
There are gamelines people are interested in besides Mage?
I thought the other splats were just occasional Mage antagonists and NPC's designed to highlight "mage supremacy."
Who knew?
>>46355416
>desu
wut
>>46355368
>Would any ST here honestly allow a player to bring a Beast character into their Vampire or Mage game?
Yes, but only because my players' coterie is bordering on full murderhobo by this point.
>>46355368
If I trusted the player, I'd let them give it a whirl. I almost never play outside a group of close friends, however.
>>46355431
wordfilter for the abbreviation of 'to be honest'.
>>46355416
Yeah, Amy's tryhard idea is shit, we need some real writers on this.
>>46355416
With the exception of Dudes of Legend, I haven't been too impressed by the April Fool's offerings. However, DoL was *really* funny.
>>46355416
I'll take some misses if it means there's a chance for a Dudes of Legend-tier book every year.
>>46355461
Gambler's fallacy.
>>46355447
The Shadows of Iceland one and the eXXXalted one were both great.
>>46355483
>tfw Shadows of Iceland was almost a decade ago.
>>46355478
It's not like I'm paying money for them, so I'll gamble away.
>>46355483
True facts: the uncensored ExXxalted book was the number one pirated White Wolf book that year, according to Eddy Webb.
>>46355492
At least they weren't accused of Awoooo~!
>>46355483
The Scion pop culture gods was good, but didn't go far enough
>>46355492
>"Hey Hrothgar, I heard you take it up the bum and you practice lady magic for ladies."
>"Say that to me in Gauru form, motherfucker! ARGLEBARGLE"
>>46355600
Well I didn't need my sides anyway.
>>46355447
>>46355441
You know what I'd do for April Fools?
>>46355420 This.
"Look, let's talk about the elephant in the room. You know it's true, we've barely been able to hide it. Mages are the best. They're smarter, stronger, faster, and smell better than every other supernatural.
So let's just give in.
This is how to play Mages as they're supposed to be played. No pussyfooting around."
Followed by thirty pages of complete and utter imbalance.
>>46355718
Boring
>>46355738
As boring as the Gothic Icons from last year?
>>46355718
>and smell better
Demon would would
like to call bullshit on that.
>>46355718
Nah, a good April Fools needs to be something short, sweet, and for all the audience of a line. I don't have much of an idea myself. Maybe a book of randomized Dramatic Failures and Successes.
>>46355759
Moreso. At least the Gothic icons weren't revolving around a single game.
>>46355811
Rules for running Scooby-Do style Investigations that integrate Chases and Conditions that require massive amounts of eating or losing your glasses.
>>46355855
Chases through hallways with multiple doors.
>>46355834
At the very least, it's a funny idea in theory. It's just that there's only one joke and it's "obscure lit character is a 90s WoD NPC" for five to ten pages.
>>46355933
To the Malt Shop!
>>46355933
Fighting Style that negates supernatural powers with simple disguises, slapstick gags, or by 'removing their mask' and revealing it was Old Man Whitterson the whole time!
>>46355933
How to get mechanical bonuses by playing only the latest in 70s Sunshine Pop.
>>46355855
Ruh Roh...
>>46355718
>April Fools
>This is how to play Mages as they're supposed to be played. No pussyfooting around."
>Followed by thirty pages of complete and utter imbalance.
TFW people seem to not only totally forget about Imperial Mysteries, but that it was a real supplement and friggin' *fantastic*.
>>46355718
>Mages smell better than every other supernatural.
Someone's character obviously doesn't hang around with many Moros. Phew.
>>46356116
>How to get mechanical bonuses by playing only the latest in 70s Sunshine Pop.
And +3 to all Teamwork rolls if the Harlem Globetrotters are guest-starring.
So uh, why hasn't anyone spoiled the complete Dark Eras thing yet?
>>46355325
>the writing tries to cast them as victims avenging themselves on their oppressors
No it doesn't. You should actually read the final product before you comment, anon.
>>46356601
It's a 602 page book, I assume everyone who's got it is still reading it. It's very hard to spoil all 602 pages at once.
>>46356601
Nobody wants to do it while Chris and Dave are lurking.
It's 11pm in the UK, they have to sleep soon. Be patient my lovely.
>>46356604
The final product *tries* to change the fact that Beasts were originally portrayed as victims avenging their oppressors and sadly was only marginally successful, if at all.
Ironically, most people who now stridently defend Beast also liked the original draft.
>>46356658
>>46356645
I ask because I've got it and could share, provided I'm not going to get destroyed by The Watchers of the Onyx Path.
(and people actually buy the book when it's out)
>>46356681
>original draft
Speaking of which, does anyone still have a copy of that?
>>46356708
DO IT FAGGOT
>>46356658
Dave and Chris are night owls. They often post very late UK time.
I also have no doubt they'll stay up just to bask in the compliments and glory. Wouldn't you?
>>46356708
>(and people actually buy the book when it's out)
>implying
>>46356723
I believe this was the leaked draft of Beast.
https://www.sendspace.com/file/6t3uog
>>46356796
I buy every book I use. I also bought Immortals because that shit was fire.
>>46356737
I don't know about Chris, but Dave at least has a dayjob to attend to if he wants the compliments to keep flowing with Mage progress
>>46356708
Although I would love to see the book, before you post it, make sure you've deleted all DRM and watermarks.
>>46356796
Hey, I bought it and I'd like to think people actually would too.
That being said, give me about 20 minutes to upload it to my Drive. I'll keep it up for an hour provided you can't see my drive. (Though that wasn't a problem with my Dreams of Avarice share)
>>46356844
Speaking of Dave and Mage compliments and progress, where's our new Signs of Sorcery spoiler?
>>46356844
>I don't know about Chris
I think Chris is (was?) an editor.
>>46356878
If you tell me how, I will.
>>46356936
Like I say, I don't know. He could be Dracula for all I know.
>>46356913
Someone stick it in the mega, I'm also a brit but I need to be up early and will likely miss it
>>46356913
If you're worried about anonymity, post it to Sendspace or a similar site.
>>46356835
Much appreciated. I lost my hard drive and one of my friends didn't believe me when I told them how shitty Beast 0.1 was.
>>46356940
>If you tell me how, I will.
Unfortunately, that's not my area of expertise. However, definitely ask for help and ensure all watermarks are removed. If not, OP might quickly ascertain you're the leaker. You could end up banned from Drivethru or worse.
>>46357034
>You could end up banned from Drivethru
Oh no, he might have to make a new free account
>>46357065
I've got multiple books I paid for one the one account I have, I'm not risking that shit.
>>46356835
>>46357029
That one's really out of date. The birthrights and hero lore are off, just by glancing at it.
>>46357107
>>46357034
That being said, if someone can tell me how to check for them and clean them, I'll gladly upload it.
>>46357107
I don't blame you.
However, there are a number of people who know how to properly clean PDF's and eliminate any risk. If you ask around, they'll tell you how or do it for you.
>>46357164
The Anon explicitly asked for the earliest draft to show a friend how bad Beast started out. I believe I uploaded the infamous leaked draft before the Kickstarter. Do you have something even earlier or did I confuse drafts?
>>46357191
>or do it for you
REDFLAG.EXE
>>46357286
There are other sites such as 7chan who have non-anonymous posters who routinely help with cleaning PDF's.
I agree that I would never completely trust an Anon on /wodg/. I like you Anons, but I'm not stupid.
The PDFs aren't even watermarked, and OPP doesn't actually care enough to sanction you anyway. I've uploaded several of them.
>>46357759
traitor faggot
>>46357759
I've uploaded the Dreams of Avarice one on here too, but that was mostly fiction (and very good).
I'm kind of thinking they'll be less lenient on the ones with actual rules (which I get, it's their work but it's going to end up on here anyway) but the first one to do it might be in trouble.
I'm not gonna upload my copy (fuck you, I backed it fair and square) but will happily screenshot anything you're curious about.
>>46357828
For me, I know that I don't usually buy the things that I pirate. Dark Eras is such a niche thing thay I don't want to hurt their sales, so that OPP makes enough of a profit to do another one next year.
>>46357862
I respect that.
However, I anticipate that most of OP's profits will come from people buying hardcopies of Dark Eras, as is often the case with large corebooks and similar major products.
>>46357862
For me it depends, if I really like something I'll usually buy it. The things I don't I usually don't end up using anyway, so it's not really a 'lost sale' for the company seeing as I'd never buy it anyway.
>>46357842
Since most of the general content is already available from the Kickstarter draft and recent spoilers, how about some screenshots of the major art pieces, particularly for Sundered World and To The Strongest.
>>46357929
This. "Try before you buy" and all that.
>>46357941
Again; while most of To The Strongest and The Sundered World has been spoiled, nobody's asked for anything from the Aztec chapter, Viking Werewolf, or pretty much everything that isn't Mage.
>>46357941
I'm reading the Ruins part currently.
>>46358329
Beneath The Skin is surprisingly cool.
>>46355203
You're my hero.
So 4chin/wodg/, whats the final say on the japan setting? Is it racist and offensive as fuck like almost everything else set in the land of the sunrise?
Also this is more genreal, how fucking offensive is this book,senpai-a-lam?
>>46358497
>>46358585
Well, the art is very Exalted-feeling, which isn't great, but the chapter itself is fine. Japanese people doing Japanese things to fight Japanese monsters with nary a ninja or kung fu master in sight. I think it's a little bland, but certainly not offensive.
The only complaints so far have been a minor thing about a Condition in thr Viking chapter reflecting grave insult, with one of the example sources being an accusation of "passive homosexuality." Rather than understand that many cultures had a taboo on being the one getting fucked in a homosexual thing, some people have been complaining about mechanics for calling someone a faggot.
>>46358669
Who the fuck cares about being called a faggot?
>>46358585
It's not, and it's not? The worst you can say about this book is that some of the chapters are more summarized history than CofD. It's a solid book all around.
>>46358695
Historically? Vikings, but only if you receive instead of give. You can be gay all you like, but you better make sure you only sword fight or you have to fight someone to the death.
>>46358695
The Romans were similar; you can fuck boys all you want, but it was shameful to give a blowjob. The only sex act they saw as more degrading was oral sex on a woman.
>Reading through Dark Eras
>Neolithic story seeds
>War breaks out. It’s unthinkable, but two villages declare that they can no longer tolerate the other. The cause is a petty slight; each side is absolutely determined to annihilate the other. They take up arms and begin to fight. Spirits of a kind never before seen are appearing, stoking the flames of violence.
>[...]
>A terrifying source of power lies at the far end of the threads of destiny and sympathy tying it to the divine weapon. Somewhere, a raw symbol of violence and destruction has thrust the manifestation of itself into the Fallen World. As reality bleeds from the damage, those in the crater hear names in High Speech whispered by the strange-tasting air; the Warlord; the Destroyer; the General.
...Does this confirm that the Seers are right, and that War is imposed by on the Fallen by the Supernal?
>>46358725
Well no I get that, I mean for the people playing and not their charecters? So what you got called a fag, act out the dick sizing contest an be on with it. I'm more saying, who the hell cares about there being a mechanic for being called a faggot beyond, "Why did this get word count spent on it."
>>46358695
Men should fuck and kill things; getting fucked is girly and cowardly, much like sorcery.
The Vikings had odd morals.
I'm making an Angel that, if all goes well, will attack one of my players next session. I need a Bane for it.It's focused on long-range assassination, and has a Ban that prohibits it from allowing itself to be seen by its target. Also has Influence(Electricity), and is Rank 2. I'm currently thinking something along the lines of a grounding rod, but that seems more like a Rank 1 Bane.It's mission is specifically to kill one of the player's Cover, because he's got the Hunted condition.
>>46358790
Didn't Odin practice the girl magic thinger?
>>46358811
Yeah, but he was also motherfucking Odin.
>>46358790
>>46358781
>>46358695
>>46358669
As an actual gay guy, I'm fine with it. I understand that the past is past, and I don't expect Onyx Path to rewrite history to make me happy.-Your friendly neighborhood gay werewolf
>>46358811
Loki made fun of him for it.
>>46358864
As a half-a-fag, thats why I'm curious about who would care about being called a fag. Like seriously it's just a dumb word now.
>>46358811
>>46358851
Yeah, it got brought up last thread that he made fun of Loki for turning himself into a woman so he could fuck with someone, or something like that, but Loki was just like 'dad you literally practice girl magic' so he shut the fuck up.
After a few months of playing our Vampire chronicle, I've started listening to more of the darker music I preferred when I was younger.
Is something wrong with me, or is this normal?
>>46358873
Didn't Loki also have a horses kid or some shit?
>>46358901
>Is something wrong with me, or is this normal?
Yes.
My favorite bit of the entire book; Arisen using Infrastructure to cross continents.
>>46358910
Yes, and Loki WON that argument.
Practicing magic is literally girlier than being an actual woman and taking care of a kid, in the Norse eye.
>>46358910
See
>>46358889
Loki making fun of Odin was a counter argument, not an instigation.
>>46358941
Well that explains why Khrone hates sorcerers so much :V
>>46358929
And now I'm sad we don't have Mayan Mummy. Maybe for Dark Eras 2?
It would be a blast to take the old crazy African Olmec and Transatlantic Egyptian sailing theories and make somethijg out of them.
>>46358910
He had kids twice. Once as a horse, and once in the shape of a mortal woman. And as>>46358941 said. Loki won that argument. (At least until he insulted Thor. Thor didn't throw arguments back, he went for Mjölner.)
I want to get fucked by Father Wolf!
>>46358929
Notice the Mutapa teaser for the Mage / Mummy crossover in the Dark Eras Companion.
OP are sneaky marketing bastards.
>>46359149
>I want to get fucked by Father Wolf!
Congratulations. It will not end well.
>>46359149
Just play a The Sundered World game, then. I'm sure he'd knot you, anon.
>>46359149
>>f-list
>>46358864
>-Your friendly neighborhood gay werewolf
Gay werewolves aren't even edgy anymore. Borrrring....
We need a new meme, maybe transgender, disabled, First Nations, Third Wave feminist Changelings
>>46359281
Make it a Promethean so literally nature an the universe is oppressing them.
>>46358929
That's even better than my 'Fate mumbo-jumbo'ed them to another country in their Sleep' explanation.
>>46359315
I hate those who flaunt their soul privilege.
#SoullessLivesMatter
#MageTears
#BurnedByTheDivineFire
I'd still kind of like to know how lesbianism worked with the Vikings. Or, for that matter, how gay people worked in any of the Dark Eras.
>>46358929
>"Oh man, there's this mysterious occult structure, whatever will we do?"
>"Throw the Tef-Aabhi at it, she'll think of something."
>>46359214
>make a Blood-Wise whose primary Obsession is getting fucked by Father Wolf
>otherwise play them as a compelling and interesting liason to the spirits
Would you turn me away from your table, anon?
>>46359331
Don't fuck with Fate in the CofD. It can do anything. If you don't believe Mummies, just ask Changelings and Mages.
is there any news on the WoD game?
>>46358929
Now I wish there was a Mummy/Demon crossover setting, just to see how it would work.
>>46359503
Nothing yet. Turns out the Paradox/Obsidian project was a CRPG called Tyranny.
>>46359503
Can you be a little more specific?
CofD? WOD 20th Anniverary? WOD 4e? Videogames by Paradox? Etc.
>>46359488
Fate is so powerful, it literally clawed its way back into being a part of the game after being cast away in early play-testing.
Hey /wodg/.
Tonight's random taste experiment is kabanos dipped in sriracha. Hopefully this will inspire me with some good ideas for writing up the stats for Fox.
>>46359683
I want to get fucked by Father Wolf!
What's the best Path for a Wise who dreams of building the first city?
>>46359542
Well there's Fate, and then there's Fate Fate.
...so does anyone here need players for a Dark Eras game? I'm down to play damn near all of them.
>>46359760
All the Paths are fine. The Paths will, however, generally color the mage's perception of the nature and purpose of the city and their role within it.
>>46359683
Is it feasible that, through Omphalos Stone fuckery or otherwise, a Pangaean could exist in the modern world?
I've got the idea in my head now for either Beshilu or something/one else weakening the Gauntlet to the point that one of those shadows you see out of the corner of your eye when you cross it escapes, and the Pack having to deal with it.
>>46359725
Urfarah only really goes for eldritch horrors, I'm afraid.
>>46359760
Tricky one. Depends what you think is most important for getting said city built. I'd suggest Mastigos for the mental capacity needed to plan and organise the logistics needed for such a massive endeavour, plus very helpful with actually getting people to go along with it.
>>46359683
>random taste experiment is kabanos dipped in sriracha
Chris, isn't it a little too close to bedtime in the UK to be trying such questionable culinary experiments?
Also, didn't Mages already kill Fox and rip out his heart?
>>46359841
>Is it feasible that, through Omphalos Stone fuckery or otherwise, a Pangaean could exist in the modern world?
Yes.
>>46359889
>Chris, isn't it a little too close to bedtime in the UK to be trying such questionable culinary experiments?
I live life on the edge, man.
>Also, didn't Mages already kill Fox and rip out his heart?
Yes. Someone asked for Fox as a sample Pangaean write-up on the OP forums, though, so I figure I'll put her stats together to give an idea of what those Wise were up against when they tore her carcass open and stole her heart.
>>46359841
Just think what an Archmaster of Time, Spirit and Life could do with an Omphalos Stone.
>>46355368
Yeah, I got no problem with it. They work fine as supplementals and specifically Vampire and Mage they can adapt to quite easily.
I wouldn't bring them into Werewolf or Changeling, though. Geist yes. Demon yes actually even though TEH ANIMOSITY.
>>46359937
While you're tinkering with Fox, throw in some story seeds or future fates about where her carcass and Omphalos Stone(s) might be located in modern times for those industrious, brave and foolish mages who might wish to resurrect her,
>>46360024
>Demon yes actually even though TEH ANIMOSITY.
I'm imagining Beasts don't play well with Angels, either, leading to one of those "enemy of my enemy" situations.
>>46359760
It's gotta be Storm-Wise. They have the vision to shelter people from the elements.
>>46359937
Chris, is there any way you could do one of the Legacies you mentioned in the chapter?
Bull's Children and the Hollow Keepers are both awesome.
>>46359937
Ghost Wolf Lodge trying to build a new Tribe around Eater of Names, with the Awakened as their sacred prey; hot or not?
>>46359868
>Urfarah only really goes for eldritch horrors, I'm afraid.
And he brought them to the moon for a threesome! IT ALL FITS!
Do all the Arcana function the same in The Sundered World and To The Strongest as they do in modern times?
>tfw I regret not backing the Kickstarter
>>46360184
Yes
Or, at least, there's no new rules for any of the Arcana, that I saw, beyond Pangaeans being Spirit+Life or Matter
>>46360094
>Chris, is there any way you could do one of the Legacies you mentioned in the chapter?
Dave already has four sample Legacies in the pipeline for after Mage 2e hits; if I do write one of the Neolithic ones up, it'll be after Dave has done those four, and I can't guarantee if or when.
>>46360115
>Ghost Wolf Lodge trying to build a new Tribe around Eater of Names, with the Awakened as their sacred prey; hot or not?
Works for me. Mind you, there are Lodges mentioned in the pack that already harry at the heels of certain brands of prey that some Awakened will find themselves in, like the Tindalosi who prey on people fucking with time.
>>46360145
The moon is one of those eldritch horrors.
>>46360184
Some elements of the Spirit Arcanum work differently, on account of there being no Gauntlet and the existence of the Border Marches.
>>46360184
>>46360345
Oh, right. You can't instantly enter the Shadow, anymore; you have to cross into the Border Marches, first, and then enter the Shadow, or vice-versa.
>>46360073
I feel like to the degree Beasts want to do anything except murder Redpillers/rape Tumblrinas, they want to expand their Lairs, and hanging out with Demons is a great way both to find creepy, weird places (Infrastructure) and get some much-needed fire support (as well as provide it) for the mutually agreeable task of breaking the God-Machine's grip on them. Plus extradimensional getaways are super-useful; I'm not clear on whether Angels can break into a Lair EVER but it certainly doesn't seem to be a default capacity.
Yay, my contributor copy of the Dark Eras pdf just arrived in my inbox.
Did I miss it or did Dark Eras get uploaded in this thread
>>46360583
Nope. No uploads yet.
>>46360551
Is there a date for PoD to go on sale?
>>46360444
If Demons can Rip The Gates then Angels probably can too?
Of course that would put their actual, physical body in the same room as a Beast's Horror, which is an insanely bad idea.
>>46360551
Chris, I like you. You are my favourite person.
>>46358288
But.... but this says Father Wolf was a good for nothing dad.
>>46352665
>>46352673
Fag Spiral Dancer
>>46361412
Father Wolf is best Father.
Lets you kill on your own.
Fenris-Ur, the Destroyer Wolf
Kamduis-Ur, Death Wolf
Hikaon-Ur, Black Wolf
Sagrim-Ur, the Red Wolf
Skolis-Ur, Winter Wolf
Huzuruth-Ur, Dire Wolf
Gurim-Ur, Rabid Wolf
Hathis-Ur, Silver Wolf
Danu-Ur, Creator Wolf
Isim-Ur, Ravening Wolf
Wolf-Who-Whispers
Sky Hunter
Opalescent
Incandescent
Eater of Names
Viruhk-Ur, Soulless Wolf
>>46361725
>And Z̶o̶i̶d̶b̶e̶r̶g̶ Lycaon!
>>46361828
I didn't want to count Devourer Wolf as he doesn't seem to be a natural Firstborn, instead a werewolf (or something else) reaching that power level.
>>46359444
honestly anon, for the vast majority of cultures we just don't know, because girl gay times are not well documented in a lot of cultures
we basically have less than three sources on gay girls in antiquity, for example
>>46361871
I just have this mental image of Lycaon being a poser who keeps trying to squeeze himself in whenever the 1stborn are mentioned.
>>46359444
Well, neither of them would have been taking a dick, so maybe they were more on par with the men?I'm completely talking out of my ass here
>>46361962
I could see that. He's certainly...hungry for power. And anyone at that level is going to be...not a common folk.
>>46359444
>Or, for that matter, how gay people worked in any of the Dark Eras.
Grab a history book. The Dark Eras books don't place any supernatural bent to homosexuality.
>>46361962
>Lycaon being a poser who keeps trying to squeeze himself in whenever the 1stborn are mentioned.
Photobomb-Ur
>>46362051
>no supernatural lesbians
Damnit, CofD. I only wanted one thing.
>>46362366
Chronicles of Porn
GenCon 2016!
>>46358288
whats a nusuzul
>>46362937
wolf blooded
>>46363000
>>46362937
Close. It's a Werewolf just about to undergo it's First Change.
Pangaeans can cast supernal spells?!
How is that possible?
>>46362937
>>46363000
>>46363090
It's a Nascent Werewolf who, for all intents and purposes, is a Wolf-Blooded with a Tell that is either more intense than usual or new to them and thus still jarring af.
>>46363570
It probably isn't literally supernal magic, but using the Arcana to approximate it.
Like how modern-day Luna can "cast" spells befitting her influences as though she had 8 dots in an Arcanum.
>>46363649
According to this: http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/46337502/#q46347875
they really are supernal spells
>>46363716
Ah, I'll concede the point. Though by the same link:
>*Why* it's the nature of Pangaeans is something that's up for investigation. The Wise have their beliefs about where the Pangaeans come from, as do the Uratha.
Looks like the "how" is "find out, faget."
>>46358780
War is opposed upon the fallen world by the Exarchs, not the supernal. There is a differences in that.
>>46364007
>There is a differences in that.
Not really, the Exarchs are supernal.
>>46355362
Give me everything you got on the Norse Gods from Viking Era.
Actually give me everything that pertains to Geist.
Gesit need some goals and the past might give some hints.
>>46364116
>Actually give me everything that pertains to Geist.
It's shit.
Fucking Wraith 20 WHEN?
>>46364384
Dansky's still writing. He's no Satyros, but his name isn't nearly as stupid.
>>46364401
I know the guy's gotta grieve, but by the time he fucking finishes I'll be able to play Wraith in real life.
>>46364448
It hasn't hit Exalted 3 levels of delays yet though, so it isn't the slowest OP product.
>>46364448
What happened to Rich Dansky?
>>46364942
His mom died.
>>46364401
Apparently he's also in the editing stage, which means that things are moving forward, even if it's just a bit.
I'm starting to suspect that Scavenger Wolf from Skinchangers was a Pangaean who got caught flesh side when the Gauntlet went up. Raven, the grandfather of the Thar Akuru, was almost certainly a Pangaean in my eyes, maybe Inari too.
So do we have any idea what the fuck goblin vows do in 2e? Or does everyone in a court get to make one-sided pledges with their court emotion/concept? Also shout-out to pledges with mortals being garbage now.
Hi guys, I just finished Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines and thought it was fantastic and want to start getting into the actual system/books.
What edition do you guys think is most worthwhile?
>>46366272
If you want to get into the exact same setting that you played in Bloodlines, grab the 20th Anniversary of VtM book, and other 20th Anniversary books that interest you.
Alternatively there's the 2e of nWoD, Chronicles of Darkness, which is a different kind of game, less about its overarching setting and more about the individual PCs. The vampire book for that one is Vampire: the Requiem.
Ultimately it's up to you to decide which one you like more; both PDFs are in OP if I'm not mistaken, so it doesn't cost you anything but time.
>>46366312
Thanks senpai, I'll start by poring over the 20th Anniversary.
Anything else about skinchangers? They actually seem pretty cool now.
why no beast talk?
>>46367085
Beast stinks, and talking about it even more will not make it better.
>>46367109
why does it stink?
>>46367085
I like the fiction bits where the begotten interact with the dark mother. Has a nice feel to it.
>>46358781
I feel like it was really only there to add fluff.
>>46358889
>>46358941
>>46359112
>Practicing girl magic is girlier than being a girl (horse).
>>46359444
>>46361951
Men were the ones doing all the documentation, and they didn't care or think about what women did. One of those three sources anon mentions? Is the Romans thinking that Tribades (the term that encompasses both lesbians and women who were sexually dominant) literally had clit penises to fuck each other or their husbands with. It was literally unfathomable to them that someone could have sex--or more, be the initiating/dominant/'top' partner--without a penis.
>>46359503
It's a mobile gambling game.
I'm not actually being sarcastic.
>>46367126
So much virtual ink has been spilled on Beast complaints that little would be gained from rehashing all the arguments.
My personal primary gripe is that the setting and character motivations are empty and bland. Without social structures, and with a over-reliance on crossover, there's just not much for Beast to do or grant them directed motivation. Even the vague "teach people lessons" shtick was only added after numerous, and often heated, complaints about the Kickstarter draft.
However, if you like Beast, I'm certainly not trying to spoil your fun. Beast fans may be a small group, but I guess there's something for everyone. Nevertheless, /wodg/ has generally proven hostile to Beast, and it will take a lot for that to change.
>>46367126
It should've been called Snowflake: The Mary Sues is what's wrong with it.
Literally, they serve no purpose and have no direction beyond being hideously overpowered crossover donut steels. Take a gander at the book yourself.
Can someone tell me about the Hollow Keepers? They seem like a cool legacy.
>>46367225
what would had made it better.
> your a human
>your dreaming one day and have nightmare of a beast(your pick) eating your soul.
>you somehow win the inner fight by trapping the beast making it your replacement soul so you don't go all vegetable like
>you must undo curse before death for fear of non existence
>world opens up and you see monsters vamps wolf ect ect
>feel monster soul feeling kinship with monster and so do you but its more like a Strix and relationship with a vampire for both you and monster.
> need to feed to hold back beast and when you don't feed heroes are made
>heroes where once good and righteous but over times heroes picked are now sick people who are fucking crazy and think they are always right.
(this hero thing can be changed to be some other then them as sick people like maybe they are the exact opposite of you. your good its crazy evil, your evil its good but fucked up, your a 48 year old virgin who can't get laid for shit and now you got a 28 hot as fuck nympho bitch going after you to fuck your shit up)
2 more things dreaming brings you back to the beast realm where they know your not its kin but treat you like one in a cold elder kind of way. the last thing is that your must follow a rule the beast imprinted on your soul that you must follow in order to let it go back to sleep like for example you see a guy litter and the nature beast says litter litter cut his fucking hands off and you must roll for a dominance/ composure check to hold it back.
what do you think and sorry for spelling mistakes its 3:00 at night so i need to write this fast so i can sleep and wake up for college class at 7 later.
>>46367441
This is the entire entry in Dark Eras,
"The Hollow Keepers: This Legacy seals part of their souls away in clay urns that they bury and hide. Thus protected, they truck with spirits and the dead, their souls safe from harm. The Hollow Keepers undertake the most dangerous of ventures into the other realms to deal with their inhabitants. Of course, as the tales go, get hold of a Hollow Keeper’s soul-urn and you become her master."
Beast backers have received the fiction anthology.
For those who've read it, how was DaveB's story about the beast, mage and bastet trip through the Temenos?
>>46367690
It's pretty good, especially Dave's story. There's something funny in there for people who whine that Mages have all the answers.
>>46367727
Do tell.
>>46367727
>Mages don't have all the answers
That's crazy talk.
Tells us about the the story.
>>46367690
I know what I'm gonna be reading later.
>>46355312
I get that the gif is jojo, but I always see Might Guy from Naruto
>>46367216
But girls can't be the dominating top without a penis, that's why they have to use strap-ons to do any domination.
A few threads ago, DaveB was excited about the new Mage header fonts revealed in Dark Eras, and inquired as to our opinion.
The font is definitely *much* better than 1e. As long as the headers in the new book are not the hard to read goldish color and the pages don't have odd background bits obscuring the text, the old 1e readability problems seem to be solved.
>>46367727
Thanks, Anon!
The bit I thought everyone would quote out of context is when the mage rips into the Beast, telling her that she's a Goetia with delusions of grandeur. He's never *wrong*, but he's an *asshole*.
Mostly, the story came from wanting to clearly show how Beast and Mage's cosmologies interact (the finale comes when they trick the antagonist into the Anima Mundi, where the ecstatic wind gets him!), pair a "feeds by humbling the arrogant" Beast up with a mid-Wisdom Mastigos Silver Ladder for the lulz, and rehabilitate Changing Breeds a bit.
>>46369223
>rehabilitate Changing Breeds a bit
How?
>>46358889
>"dad, you literally practice girl magic"
>dad
Get the fuck out, and take your shitty, sanitized, Marvel Norse Mythology with you.
>>46369423
Everything else about it is simplified for the sake of humorous wording too. Calm down, friend.
>>46369223
Seeing how the Bastet was handled is one of things I'm looking forward to about the story. The thing I'm looking forward to the most is it being set in the Astral because it is probably my favorite thing in CofD.
Anyone care to share the Beast fiction anthology?
Also, anyone have the final Beast PDF with the compiled errata?
>>46369461
Could have achieved the same result with "bro", which would have been an accurate summation of Loki and Odin's relationship as blood-brothers, rather than betraying your ignorance of anything but Marvel's theme park version of Norse Mythology. In other words: Fuck you you filthy casual, you and others like you are the reason we get movies like Gods of Egypt.
>>46361032
Not that I'm aware of. Depends how long it takes to sort out errata etc, I guess.
>>46363716
Indeed. It's actual Arcana use.
>>46367441
The Vinca have a big thing about sacred pottery and ceramics, since writing is also sacred and that's one of the ways they can give language permanence and power in the world - by marking it into pottery.
The Hollow Keepers basically bottle portions of their souls and hide them, Koschei-style, so that spirits, shades or other horrors can't just steal their souls when they meet them. Basically intermediaries to otherworldly entities using an additional layer of protection. The Hollow Keepers are the ones who go furthest and push the boundaries the most in exploration of other realms and mysteries, because they know their souls are (relatively) safe.
Some of them are stately diplomats with deep wisdom and negotiaton skills; others are the Neolithic equivalent of Steve Irwin, poking eldritch horrors because they hubristically have a sense of invincibility.
A further thought on the differences between Arcana use of Awakened and Pangaeans.
Note that this is very much just my thoughts, not official, and DaveB may of course countermand or otherwise state it as incorrect.
To use Matrix-esque metaphors, Awakened are like hackers, breaking through the Lie to access the Supernal.
Pangaeans have simply been given user access as a side-perk of their jobs.
>>46368291
Clearly you've never had one sit on your face.
I'd like to think Jonathan Frakes is narrating my CofD games
With the request for a story from the GM's point of view and the mentioning of Vikings multiple times through the comments I can't resist the tempation to share this.
http://www.kpwarmerdam.nl//tabletop/The%20North%20Exposed.pdf
They are the notes and illustrations regarding a Dark Ages game I was in and should prove to be an interesting read.
So I've been thinking.
Pangaean gods could use Arcana.
So can some of the Changing Breeds.
What does this mean?
Could losing your virginity be a sacrament or quintessence?
>>46370680
They're naturally closer to the supernal than things like humans.
Hey if Mage 2e gets released will it be a monday announcement or can it come out any day?
>>46370685
Only the former. Virginities are too common for quintessences.
>>46370700
We'll most likely get a fore-warning on a Monday.
>>46370700
New releases come out Wednesdays. they'd probably let you know in advance on monday announcement though
>>46370685
Only as sacraments and that spell better be worth it if you value virginity in any way.
>>46370719
Dark Eras came out on a Tuesday, everywhere west of Russia.
>>46370777
>Dark Eras came out on a Tuesday, everywhere west of Russia.
Only an advance copy to backers. It's not officially released.
A fun fact of Neolithic societies is that anyone who survives into their 50s or 60s is a genuinely impressive motherfucker whom everyone looks at as being either venerable or simply a lucky bastard.
Child mortality would've been fierce, even without diseases like smallpox to murder your adorable face, and learning how to deal with wolves is really a pass-fail sort of exam.
If you survive 50 years of freezing winters, wild animals, waves of disease, and seeing all your friends and family succumb, you are one hard bastard. If you survive all that PLUS spirits and werewolves and ghosts, well...
>>46372185
The CofD mat be a little different than real world in terms of mortality and other issues.
Recall that the Vinca had the Wise to protect and care for them. Disease, childbirth and many other matters were easy to overcome for those with the Art.
>>46372185
It's a bit more complicated like that.
People generally lived up into the 50's and 60's...
Provided they survived the childhood.
>Dark Eras leak acquired
YES!
VIVA LA PIRACY!!I'll buy it once it's buyable, chill your beans
