What would you change in WH40K lore? I would change the stupid ''Orks are fungus'' thing and make them reproduce sexually and also capture girls for rape purposes it would also spawn a lot of Ork porn I could get off too I would love to be fucked by a Warboss as his cuck Nobs watch and be covered in his thick Ork jizz then the Nobs would take sloppy seconds and then rest of the klan would fuck me including Gretchin.
Go finish Berserk Miura, and no troll dick this time.
>>45575420
T. Macha
>>45575420
Macha, I may be terribly busy, but I can still see your posts in Warpchan.
Why can't you be like your sister?
When I get back from...this...expect consequences.
For the time being, you're grounded.
>>45575420
Space Marine Chapters have 10000 members. My suspension of disbelief has limits and only 1000 marines is just ridiculous.
>>45575426
Kentaro Miura here I wanna say I just dropped Berserk completly in favor of my true love - doing meth.
>>45575420
I would rebalance the fluff so it isn't Imperium vs. Chaos with xenos in the background and instead have more even representation.
Chaos isn't "the greatest threat" but it's up there with Necrons and Tyranids
Xenos vs Xenos and Xenos vs Chaos fluff happens more often
Less focus on Space Marines, more on IG and especially SOB
Axe the space marines.
>>45575420
>>45579041
Well say goodbye to Warhammer.
>>45575420
So edgy bullshit 14 year Olds think is cool rather than a good ideal for bio weapons they were made to be
Each orc is an ecosystem that when dies makes more orks thier support and food
Btw orcs were designed to fight fucking robots you retard how are they doing to rape them?
>>45580842
they are called ORKS not Orcs you fucking newfag
>>45575420
Make space marines less OP. It's just ridiculous currently.
>>45575914
Same but they should constantly be producing marines constantly.
With their current statline, even a few cultists with autoguns could take a tactical so i dont think they would get very old in a life full of fighting necrons and tyranids.
>>45581241
The fluff isn't the same as the tabletop, though. If it were, you could probably get by in most battles with one or two tactical squads. We're talking easy K/D ratios of 99/1.
This is the worst thread on /tg/ right now.
>>45575420
>>45583741
I know, it's horrible, but in a way where you can't really look away, you know? Kind of disturbing really.
>>45584545
Like a the fire-bombings of Dresden. Horrifying, but you can't look away.
>>45575420
>remove Tau
>get rid of "spess mehreens have no functional dicks" bullshit
>get rid of "most of an Eldar is lighter than air and they shit crystals" bullshit
>hermaphroditic Tumblrgender Eldar are now canon
>un-kill senpai
>>45575420
At least you reproduce sexually so I know we won't get any more of your ilk.
Newcrons go back to being Necrons. They're unified soulless machines, only the highest commanders have a sentience, they're led by C'tan
Ecclesiarchy operates a wider range of armies, Frateris Templars, Militia, Crusaders, etc. SoB are just the elite troops
SM Chapters are 10,000 strong
Anyone got that image of orcs sexing up humans, but has ork criticism all over it like
>muckin' about
>messin' wif da gubbinz
>wut da zog is dis
>>45589491
>Are you going to wear a condom?
>Nah! I'z all painted blue.
>>45589633
>red Orkz never get any
>>45589656
>purple ork is secretly the dad
>>45587494
>get rid of "spess mehreens have no functional dicks" bullshit
I don't think that's in the fluff. The Space Wolves seem to indicate that it's most certainly not and most other indications are that they just don't generally have the urge.
Make the Tau Empire bigger and focus more on them being a collection of different races instead of Tau sometimes featuring Kroots and Vespids.
I like the idea of small xeno empires banding together to stopped getting gangbanged from all sides by the horrible shit out there in the galaxy but are doomed to fail since they can't quite get along and are constantly in a power struggle with each other along with standard racial tension.
Meks and suits can stay though.
>>45575420
wat.
>>45589709
So my changes give them the urge. Done.
>>45575914
Agreed, there should be a fuckload more spess mehreens, especially given the size of humanity. ~1 mil SM's to go around is not enough by a long shot.
>>45589957
But it makes things grimdark!
Besides, GW's been nebulous on the actual number of chapters. I doubt even there are a quarter of a thousand officially out there, and even the numbers that there are give DAfags licence to bullshit about having 150 chapters.
>>45581241
If we were going by fluff, space marines would probobly be 50 points a pop at least and be a hell of a lot tougher to kill.
>>45575420
Welp, that's enough internet for tonight.
>>45575420
Pretty hot desu
>>45583741
>>45589907
>NEEDS MOAR DICKS
Thanks namefag, we all love that you share all these compelling little insights on your vanity blog- er, I mean, on /tg/.
Nerf Chaos from being the "main threat" to just "big threat".
Nerf Nids from being wtf overpowering huge invasion to still devastating invasions but spread out periodically over centuries/millennia.
More of a "things looking good? starting to have some hope there?
NIDS UP IN THIS BITCH.
>>45589736
You and OP are cancer
>>45575420
All battles are settled with dance offs.
>>45581383
They tried that in WD a while back
>>45593424
>>45593424
I would have imagined them s5 t5 personally. Still this looks like fun for a one off game. 2 tac squads vs a 2000 point guard regiment.
>>45575914
A battle group of 1,000 Black Templars was considered powerful enough to requisition a sector army of ten million guardsmen. No matter how good these Space Marines may be, 1,000 men cannot stand against ten million. The Imperial Guard does the dying, and the Space Marines take all of the credit. There are around two million Space Marines in the Imperium, which is nothing compared to the billions that serve in the Imperial Guard. The Space Marines are so overpowered with their tiny chapters and perfect warriors that they are actually shit.
Probably one of my favourite little GW comments.
>>45581241
I began to wonder this when I was playing Dawn of War II. Your Space Marines are OP as fuck, but they can still get wrecked if you're not careful. Every time a marine dies and you reinforce, I wonder how much damage that does. Each loss is the loss of a soldier that took fifty years to train and who has probably served for over a hundred years.
>>45594505
>Each loss is the loss of a soldier that took fifty years to train
Nah. They're taken as adolescents and go through basic training and medical shit until young adulthood'ish, then they're the lowest level battle brother. I can't imagine it takes much more than 10, maybe 15 years for a young boy to become a spess margerine.
Of course, they serve for decades, even centuries if they're lucky.
I'd change the fact that nothing is fucking really happening, apart from "getting worse" in some not-at-all defined way.
I wouldn't mind Big E slowly getting better over decades, so that humanity has a sense that they just have to keep at it for a few more decades or centuries while hoping that he resurrects - but, I suppose that goes against the grimderp nature of the entire thing.
I would remove Genestealers.
Yeah, as cool as they are, they just feel wrong to me.
It doesn't feel right that a creature with Tyranid DNA would be able to speak like a human being.
It also doesn't feel right that Tyranids, the monstrous creatures that they are, would try to blend in with society and more subtly destroy a planet's resistance by using, essentially, secret agents.
Do humans try to break down cattle society from the inside out by infiltrating their leadership? No. And neither would the Tyranids do to their prey planets.
At least, not in my headcanon.
>>45575965
Now tell us something we don't know
>>45595302
>I'd change the fact that nothing is fucking really happening
You are mistaking a setting for a story.
Stop that.
To wit, things are happening.
Things HAVE happened. That you are too silly to see them does not mean they are not there.
>>45595399
The setting is that nothing changes, only "it's getting worse". We're not seeing how that's happening. It's annoying. I love the stories within the setting, but it's irritating that it's not advancing the overarching plot.
Oh boy op you tickled my autism so now I have to post my deviantart-tier 40k fanon.
Keep in mind if something I say is already the case in current 40k, I just want to emphasise it or I say it because some people think otherwise.
I think there's a lot of people out there who defend the idea that a lot of 40k is sensible.
It seems like a really lame troll attempt.
(note that 40k itself doesn't claim to be sensible)
Going full "realistic" would totally ruin 40k.
What makes 40k so good is that it is "fantasy in space".
On the other hand, I hate the idea of "dude just turn your brain off XD" or "it's meant to be totally wacky bro".
My idea is something that preserves "fantasy in space" while also being "sensible".
Using "magic" rather than just "it's meant to be totally wacky bro" to explain stuff.
My idea is to make magic more central to 40k.
cont
>>45595276
Sergeant Thaddeus was considered young and brash and he was eighty years old.
>>45575914
It's 1000 marines, and the other 9000 are servitors, pilots, techpriests, normal priests, ambassadors, manual labour, etc etc.
It's like a real army, you may have a military force of 1000 men, but you need the logistics behind it all to keep it working.
(don't forget all chapters have their own cruiser, which required fuckloads of crew.)
>>45595490
Stop.
>>45595375
There's no such thing as Headcanon.
There's canon, or your inability to accept it.
Genestealers aren't alone, remember, they practically work side by side with lictors.
>>45594003
I keked.
>>45589709
They don't need functional dicks.
Why do you want to self insert into space marines?
Stop.
>>45595425
Because there IS NOT OVERARCHING PLOT.
It is a setting that things happen in, NOT A STORY.
You are looking for something that isn't the point and has never been, not even in RT days.
Things happen in the 40k universe, and more things happen as you follow the timeline to it's end, but timeline has already ended, and everything that comes up now are tales of things that already happened in the mean time.
>>45595490
>"it's meant to be totally wacky bro"
Except it was exactly that. 40k was only serious enough to get people looking, but it's always been a comedic setting that, honestly, yanks never got.
>>45595645
>Because there IS NOT OVERARCHING PLOT.
Then my criticism is that there "IS NO OVERARCHING PLOT".
And what a dumb comment. Of fucking course there can be a grand plot in a setting where minor stories play out. The element of big E getting better wouldn't make any side's struggle any less real.
Your approach that everything's already happened doesn't change the fact that we're not seeing anything changing, and it's annoying.
So in conclusion, fuck you.
>>45595490
There's the materium and the immaterium.
Everything material completely abides by real world physics and rules.
The immaterium doesn't need to.
The immaterium often bleeds into the materium.
The immaterium is made up of billions of interconnected "realms".
The shallow realms are more like the materium. They are safer. Their interconnections are far more stable.
The deeper realms are very different to the materium. They are more dangerous. Their interconnections are far more unstable.
It is very rare for the factions to interact in the materium. Almost all of their interaction happens in the immaterium.
The factions are separated by billions of lightyears of space. Commuting to the other factions through the materium is practically impossible. It must be done through the immaterium.
The deeper you go, the more real world physics starts to break down.
Nuclear physics stops working. Nukes don't work.
Psychic powers become much stronger.
Things from the warp become stronger.
Melee becomes stronger.
Projectile weapons become weaker.
The immaterium is full of hostile warp creatures and dangerous "natural" phenomenon.
The immaterium is full of extraordinary materials and artifacts. Amazing sources of fuel. Very strong materials etc.
The more fantastical pieces of technology you see in 40k all made with things from the immaterium, and most only function inside the immaterium.
>>45595694
Apply yourself
>>45595694
The realms can be connected via unstable warp storms or by more stable constructed gates.
These warp storms can happen randomly or can be conjured by psykers.
Connections between realms are strongly guarded. Psykers work endlessly to secure these connections, to conceal their existence from their enemies, and to open new ones.
Much of the civilian population exist within the materium or the shallow realms.
>>45595689
Your issue is that the setting doesn't play out in a series of books leading to some grand finale.
Good. People like you shit up 40k, because you people don't fucking GET it at all.
>>45595645
Yeah I know that it was meant to be totally wacky, if you like that then whatever.
I don't like wackiness, but I do love much of the rest of 40k.
>inb4 someone acts like a sperg and insists that the entire thing is wacky. If you do that then you have literal autism. Don't confuse me using this "wacky" term to mean anything fantastical.
>>45595806
>I don't like how a setting was purposely made to be by a bunch of nerds who used every in-joke they knew
Get wrekt.
>>45595792
>because you people don't fucking GET it at all.
>urgh, people wanting big things to happen in settings, gosh, they jus dun get eet!
You sound like a fucking cunt, buddy. Why are you so opposed to a living, vibrant setting that evolves? Why do you actively advocate for a rigid universe where nothing happens but minor characters jerking off every now and again?
It's ultimately a matter of opinion. I would prefer a setting where we some overarching movement goes on. You're welcome to autistically deride my opinion, but don't come at me like your opinion on the matter is objectively any better.
>>45595694
>The factions are separated by billions of lightyears of space.
They're all in this galaxy you fucking retard.
>>45595762
There's a lot of people who like to emphasise the good side of Khorne. "Oh but he is also the god of honour and mercy. He doesn't harm the weak". Then they back it up with 2 quotes from the 80s.
The rest of the canon describes Khorne as the god of wrath and senseless violence. I prefer this.
Khorne should despise the weak, and he should seek their destruction.
I like the idea of Khorne's soldiers being a few very elite fighters with dozens of kills.
The way Khorne's soldiers should operate is that Khorne teleports them straight into battle. Maintaining and flying a ship outside of the context of a battle isn't very Khornate.
Khorne can afford to teleport his soldiers into battle because there's so few of them.
Khorne should send someone to kill any weakling who tries to seek his favour.
There's a quote in the CSM book "Let no good deed go unpunished. Let no evil deed go unrewarded." It is fucking gay. It is the cheesiest shit I have ever read in my life. If there is one thing I could remove it would be that quote.
>>45595935
Oh my god.
I was giving my own ideas about what I would change.
You are retarded.
>>45580926
That's really not important. What he said was more important than your rectification. Why did you feel the need to post ?
>>45595939
Khorne is about senseless violence and martial prowess, not being a retard.
Senseless as in without reason. Not senseless as in ineffectual.
Maybe Khorne should appreciate military strategy.
Also spears should be associated with Khorne.
Spears are the weapon that armies used for most of history.
You sure can draw a lot of blood with a spear. Think about Jesus being bled on the cross.
Maybe give bloodletters a shield too. Maybe have them march in formation. I think of the phalanx whenever I think about war.
I don't like that bloodletters have the big elongated forehead. It doesn't really signify anything.
I don't like the whip that bloodthirsters have. Whips aren't used for killing. Whips are used for inflicting pain. Not very Khornate.
>>45596089
Nobody cares about your stupid autistic opinions please just stop trying to make 40k even worse than what it is.
>>45596089
People only ever join Nurgle out of desperation.
I think they should start of relieved about being saved but very worried about what they have done and what they will become. Perhaps they become severely depressed. Then they mentally deteriorate and often become manic.
Mental illness is very Nurgle.
Nurgle followers aren't "self-serving". They have sacrificed any notion of "success" by submitting to Nurgle and becoming this disgusting thing.
All Nurgle followers have the goal of spreading Nurgle to others.
Because they have deteriorated mentally they view their actions as noble.
Spreading disease to kill billions is great in their mind. They're spreading Nurgle's gifts.
Nurgle followers happen to convert a very large chunk of their victims compared to the followers of other gods.
Much of how Nurgle followers fight is indirect, eg destroying infrastructure, infecting water supplies.
High ranking Nurgle followers, (eg plague marines) don't carry normal weapons They carry Nurgle bioweapons.
>>45596115
several people have cared enough to reply ITT, and many have done so in the past.
eat shit.
>>45589709
Indeed, Space Wolves are Battle-Brother riding Battle-Brothers.
>>45596256
Chaos forces have access to modern space marine equipment.
Many chaos forces can create their own "space marines", but only very strong and rich forces.
Very few chaos space marines are from the heresy. Those that survived have almost all become lords or daemon princes.
Some things I am undecided on, and I don't even know the status of in the current lore:
Do traitor legions still "exist"? I know the World Eaters have mostly split up.
Do traitor legionairres still feel loyalty to their legion?
Do traitor legionairres still fly their traitor legion symbols?
Do traitor legions accept post-heresy traitors into their ranks?
eg. Should the Iron Warriors accept any old chaos marine to become a member of the Iron Warriors?
>>45595276
Tacticals still have to go through the Reserve companies, training in the different disciplines before they actually become Tacticals.
>>45596584
>>45596268
>>45596256
>>45596089
>>45595963
>>45595939
>>45595806
>>45595762
>>45595694
>>45595490
It's time to stop, friendo. If you organised this in a way that didn't look like you downed a can of SpaghettiOs and just spewed up whatever inane stupidity your stomach formed those letters into, just as many people would give a shit about it, ie. zero.
>>45575420
Retcon the Tau completely out of existence.
Not that your idea is bad, mind, but there are a couple of things to do before that.
>>45596817
>If you organised this in a way that didn't look like you downed a can of SpaghettiOs and just spewed up whatever inane stupidity your stomach formed those letters into, just as many people would give a shit about it, ie. zero.
>if I make my insult very long and complicated it becomes really good
fag
>>45596881
If you're having trouble reading, don't worry; it's totally natural to struggle at your age. Just keep working at it and maybe we'll find out what happens to that hungry caterpillar next week.
>>45596867
>>45596881
Both of you need to fuck off into a sun or something instead of ruining an already shit thread even worse.
>>45596941
>If you're having trouble reading, don't worry; it's totally natural to struggle at your age. Just keep working at it and maybe we'll find out what happens to that hungry caterpillar next week.
there's that fag talk again
>>45596817
I'm serious about you being a fag
you post gifs from the American version of the office
your idea of a clever insult is on the same level as shitty poetry http://hellopoetry.com/poem/1442400/its-as-if-i-threw-up-alphabet-spaghettios-word-vomit-/
I swear I have heard John Oliver or John Stewart make that exact same joke about the Hungry Caterpillar
>>45575420
Strike SMs.or at least them less absolutely retarded
At least give humanity a chance
Give all the factions a chance at that.
Make Tau socialist not communismupdate all TT factions
>>45575420
>What change in 40K lore
Remove and replace most of the Wolf suffixes and prefixes from the Space Wolves and put in more Viking and Norse Mythology.
>>45589709
They aren't functional. Astartes can't get erections in the fluff. They've got the software, but not the hardware.
>>45589674
>Everyone wants to have sex with yellow ork, but never twice
>>45594003
>Sir I'm surrounded
>Those poor Orks
>>45599141
I think you've got that backwards. They've got their bangers and mash, apparently large ones from a couple novels, they've just been through so much indoctrination and psycho-whatsits that whatever identity they had before becoming a Marine is obliterated - sexual or otherwise.
Interestingly, pre-Heresy Marines didn't go through such ritual so they'd theoretically still be able to find love interests of a sort, and while modern Yiffs aren't as rigorous in their erasure, they mostly go in for the "Yeah I fucked that bitch into the Warp" thing for bravado's sake, like a frat mentality, so they're still pretty much celibate.
>>45599307
Yes, they've got the gear, but they can't get an erection because they don't feel sexual attraction.
>>45587494
He refuses to comment on spess Maureen dicks so my headcannon is that they are infertile due to the geneseed messing with there DNA but that they ate physically capable of the act, or atleast they would be if the souped up post heresy hypno indoctrination they use for training didn't squash the urge as an anti-slaanesh measure.
The wolves obviously have there own custom mix tapes that involve mjord and yiffing.
>>45600475
>He should be GW
>>45575420
>>45599980
Getting an erection doesn't require Sexual attraction, anon. You get stiff throughout the night naturally, and at any real stimulation. Being horny is just one way.
>>45594003
Dat's right brutal kunnin', dat is.
>>45575420
>What would you change in WH40K lore?
All codex editions and lore published after the 3rd edition era is now non-canon.
>>45575420
I'd add a "good" Chaos faction. Followers of a "Path of Harmony" who lead people to ascension as Daemon Princes of Chaos Undivided.
>>45575420
That would make orks exponentially worse as antagonists. They're not rapists, they're pillaging violent psychotics who live to fight. If you sexualize them then they're ruined. You might as well say you want to see Space Marines allowed to have wives and children or for Slaaneshi Traitors to rape everything they see with a spiked dick.
