What is your
Favorite card you play with in modern?
Favorite card you don't play with in modern?
Least favorite card in modern?
To keep the discussion competitive.
>>44202883
Thanks. I personally wanna see affinity knocked down a few pegs
>>44202883
I wonder why amulet bloom is played on mtgo more than in paper
>>44202940
Cheaper on modo, probably faster to play there as well. Also people irl probably don't want to invest in a deck like that
Strip Mine, Wasteland and Horizon Canopy are getting reprinted as expeditions
>>44203017
Ah yes, modern staples strip mine and wasteland. Can't wait to pimp out my deck.
>>44203040
I know its irrelevant to modern but I figured someone might be interested
>>44202719
>Favorite card you play with in modern?
delver of secrets
>Favorite card you don't play with in modern?
geist of saint traft
>Least favorite card in modern?
siege rhino. what a fuckin' goon of a card. dishonorable mention to kitchen finks. fuck that card, too.
>>44203040
>stripmine and wasteland are now in modern
>people are afraid to play lands
>format becomes decks with all basics and 4 of strip and waste
>somewhere a neckbeard thinks to himself "modern is finally good"
>>44203152
>restore balance becomes absolute top tier
Anyone want to wreck me on cockatrice while I test out my UR mill deck?
>>44203175
That would be hilarious
>>44203179
Give me a bit and id love to
>>44203152
>Crucible hits triple digits
>>44203199
>all tron players commit mass seppuku, joining the corpses of long dead scapeshift players
>>44203152
The printings in expeditions don't make those cards modern legal, they're only legal in modern if they're printed in a set that's also standard legal
>>44203198
>>44203179
Can't connect to cockatrice for some reason.
Unknown Login Error: -1
It's a few months since I last used cockatrice, but I did check the server info and it should be correct.
>>44203242
Yes I know, it's just a joke.
>>44203246
Means somethings wrong with your account. Happened to me I had to make a new one
>>44203152
I think it would be an improvement if 3-4 coloured decks actually had to factor in a significant chance of colour screw when evaluating their risk:reward for making a greedy deck.
>>44203306
Blood moon is that card friend
>>44203300
Well I made a new account and I'm still getting the error.
Fuck this.
>>44203323
Blood moon is too easily answered and too restricted to red decks to make a big enough dent there. I'd appreciate wasteland in modern. You either need colorless cheap ways to strongly hate out non-basics or you need PoP levels of nonbasic hate in a particular colour.
>>44203342
Huh, somethings fucked up on their end then. Sorry man
>>44203354
How is it easily answered when all your lands are mountains? They have to play around it pretty hard.
>>44203354
Blood moon is not super easy to answer. You have to play around it in order to beat it. If it catches you off guard you lose.
>>44203360
Guess I'll just have to bring it to my LGS tomorrow.
Missing the baby jaces. Man I regret not getting it earlier.
>>44203354
Price of progress is more responsible. Wasteland is punishing to two color decks, price would be a good way to knock tron down a peg and reward conservative mana bases
>>44203391
>>44203415
>These
Plus blood moon being in red makes playing any 3 colour deck that isn't x/x/r just stupid
>>44203658
Blood moon as an artifact with a higher cost would make more sense IMO
>>44203658
Pretty sure bolt is the reason x/x/r is so popular
Speaking of blood moon, is Red Stompy a thing in modern? Do any decks pack it maindeck?
>>44203712
Nope. And nope
>>44203572
I'd like price and back to basics
>>44203740
Back to basics would be nice. Non-red land hate would be nice in general.
>>44203740
>Price
Yes, let's make Burn tier 0.
>>44203712
build rw prison with blood moons, bridges, luminarch ascension, ajani v, and ghostly prison. you fold to Back to Nature but if you use spirit guides for t2 maindeck blood moon people scoop so hard
>>44203391
>>44203415
a single fetch land grabbing a forest (or plains if you're running disenchant style effects) answers blood moon, as does floating the mana while it's on the stack then casting abrupt decay/whatever other enchantment removal you have. Price of Progress cannot be answered outside of countering it or using some super dumb sideboard tech like runed halo/martyr's cause.
>>44203572
Two colour decks can operate perfectly fine without an abundance of nonbasics. If you toss in fetches (but fetch for basics) you can get more or less perfect mana (unless you plan to curve into something like predator ooze -> phyrexian obliterator but that's stupid). Wasteland would punish greedy decks and decks that rely on nonbasics for reasons other than colour fixing (tron, gavony township etc). It would destroy the meta as it currently stands but I believe the theoretical new meta would be better than the current one.
>>44203875
The problem with modern is how people refuse to update their decks based on the metagame. If price makes burn t1, play more basics to compensate
>>44203875
Only until people stopped shoving 18 nonbasics into their decks. It would hose tron and affinity super hard but most other decks would be able to adapt.
>>44203970
Unless it kills you, price doesn't do shit. Locking someone out of the game is way more powerful.
>>44203970
Wasteland's good just blowing up a random land is strong enough, color screwing people is just an upside
>>44203740
Price would break modern.
>>44203970
Have you ever played modern, or like watched a modern game? Blood Moon is super fucking powerful, even with the fact that it can be blown up. Thats the only thing keeping it fair desu.
>>44203996
It would kill entire decks. Jund and Abzan would just die because they need those early lands.
>>44203993
Burn is already tier one, please look at >>44202883
>>44204079
Blood moon is good, no one disputes this. It just isn't "he cast a blood moon, there was nothing I could have done" good.
>>44203354
>What is Ghost Quarter and Tectonic Edge
Feed back? I poster this a while back and didnt get too much so sorry for redundancy. Melira Coco basically. Replace pod with coco.
2x Anafenza, the Foremost
4x Birds of paradise
4x Eternal Witness
1x Fiend Hunter
4x Kitchen Finks
1x Linvala, Keeper of Silence
2x Melira, Sylvok Outcast
1x Murderous Redcap
3x Noble Hierarch
1x Qasali Pridemage
2x Savenging Ooze
1x Spellskite
2x Visera Seer
1x Wall of Roots
4x Chord of Calling
4x Collected Company
I like the list but I think that I should maybe cutback on the eternal witnesses and maybe one chord out for some mix of abrupt decay and paths?
>>44204102
Price is good, not impossible to play around.
>>44204132
It very much can be
>>44204132
Like I said, if you get caught off guard and blood moon hits, you will lose. You have to anticipate it and play around it. If you can't do that then you lose.
>>44204154
Chord of Calling/CoCo is kind of weak right now due to all the dispels running around. People started mainboarding them and they will fuck your shit up. Other than that your deck looks fine except maybe a bit light on the combo pieces
>>44204168
It is too good in a format where you take 2-3 damage off of your first few land drops. Its fine in Legacy where you don't take that much damage, but it would totally kill 3 colored decks in modern
>>44204171
How? You refused to fetch basics? You kept a hand that folded to blood moon
>>44204193
I wish I had a better way to consistently get my combo pieces! Right!...
>>44204207
I play a three colour deck that doesn't have red. I have 4 cards in total in the main that can kill moon but when they go first and it drops while you have two lands and one is tapped, yes. Yes you do just lose to blood moon
>>44204207
Amulet Bloom literally cannot fetch and Blood Moon can drop as early as t2 without a wonky hand of 2 Simians.
>>44204230
Pod was pretty cool, but it just kept getting stronger with every creature Wizards printed. Its too good of a toolbox card to exist. That said, I wish it was still in the format.
>>44204193
Turn 1 fetch a shock, turn2 fetch a basic. Turn 3 fetch a basic. Build a less mana intensive mana base
>>44204238
what deck do you play?
>>44204207
> You kept a hand that folded to blood moon
blood moon player found
>>44204275sultai
>>44204259
I got hit hard when they banned pod. I still have nightmares about it. I hate how they banned a cheap deck too making the format way more expensive.
>>44204238
So you fetch basics turn 1 and 2? If they drop it turn 2, consider bringing in an answer to it.
Now I really want to build blood_moon.dec. Thanks modern general.
>>44204207
You can't expect people to mull to 3-5 every g2/3 to find that 2-4 of Nature's Claim and still have a reasonable enough hand to do anything else.
>>44204207
>You kept a hand that folded to blood moon
Victim blaming
Mtg confirmed sexist
>>44204257
A deck that is based on playing all non basics gets hosed by a nonbasic hoser?
>>44204304
Twin is probably the best, but I think the deck is pretty boring. Skred is basically bloodmoom.dec but I can't attest to how good it is.
>>44204262
Look if you really want to play Price play Anathemancer.
>>44204297
How cheap even was it? I thought it was like 800 buxx still.
>>44204304
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/much-abrew-about-nothing-modern-free-win-red
>>44204238
Upwards of 1/4 of your land base, and a chunk of your mana generating base should be basics anyways, so fetch for those.
If you're playing a deck that lives on greed and you can't defend that greed, it's no wonder you're getting stomped regardless. You literally have one card that punishes you, that has a counter in virtually every colour, let alone the 3-4 greed decks run.
>Waaaaah I can't be bothered to side in Natures Claims because I might mill them with my fucking busted Dredge engine.
>>44204325
I expect people to a mulligan to a hand that contains a basic/fetchland.
>>44204378
For most decks a single basic does jack shit.
>>44204354
I bought all my cards when the format was pretty cheap to get into so it was just singles really. Plus you didn't need to play heirches, pilgrams were good enough. I still haven't found a deck that I truly love since the ban.
Just out of curiosity what decks do you play?
>>44204354
Currently I still have to purchase 4x verdant 3x hierarch the linvala uh uhhhhhhh theres a tad bit of money here haha
>>44204354
Is that deck just Skred without Skred? For what purpose?
>>44204405
Yeah that bites man :(
Like 300 bucks? ish?
Good luck to ya though
>>44204402
Thats true. Nothing really fills the gap it made in so many players hearts.
I play Jund, Grixis Delver/Control and Esper Mentor
Currently I'm finishing up Twin, all varients, just need Scalding Tarns(ill get them when they're reprinted), and I hope to start building Abzan soonish, but Nobles are pricey
>>44204447
IDK this guy always builds meme/budget decks. Purpose is fun I suppose, which is a noble purpose.
>>44204397
That's because those decks all have greedy mana bases
>>44204303
Turn 1 I need U/B mana
Turn two I need either U/x or G/B mana to function.
Also that assumes I dont do anything in hopes they drop the moon. I generally bring in an answer or fetch around it but blood moon very much is a card that makes me incapable of casting my cryptics ever.
>>44204375
>one quarter of your mana base should be basics.
Lol, okay there champ. I'm sure you have the bestest mana base on the whole block and have played sultai with that many basics
>if your deck is greedy and your punished for it then having access to sideboard cards makes the card that kills your deck irrelevant
I mean, not really. I can just not see the card very easily then I still lose.
>Waaaaah I can't be bothered to side in Natures Claims because I might mill them with my fucking busted Dredge engine.
Man, how salty are you? I don't even play dredge, I go sultai for control.
>>44204397
People act like Moon completely shuts off their mana. Even the greed decks only need a few colour sources to make key plays.
>>44204457
Hey, I play grixis delver too. I am thinking of converting it into Grixis control, but those Jaces are a deterrent. I am also building infect. I just decided to bite the bullet for the nobles.
I was thinking about jund, but the price is a huge deterrent. I am really close to buying proxies just to take to FMN, but I a worried that someone will notice.
>>44204492
Spotted the Moon player
>>44204492
Blood Moon is the free win card if you don't see it coming, and even then sometimes you just can't play around it.
>>44204517
Don't risk it with proxies if you're afraid of being blackballed from like every LGS ever. And yeah Jaces are overpriced right now I'll get them when they go down.
Also Jund is super fun to play. I sold everything but my modern cards and my Legacy deck for it and it was totally worth it. My favorite deck in modern so far
>>44204475
I guess that's the issue with play a triple blue spells in a three color deck. Try siding those out
Bring back Bloodbraid and Stoneforge.
>>44204580
I can dig both of this. BBE still might be too powerful for Modern but I dont think Stoneforge is.
>>44204592
>Cast BBE
>cascade into kolaghans command
>kill your dude blowup your thing
hehehehe...
>>44204575
Always side them out, save for maybe one. New lists are actually coming up with only one in the sideboard because it's just such a pain in the dick to cast and there's so many dispels flying around
>>44204555
It's really expensive here in Canada. Goyfs are like $250 which is stupid. On top of that I am a student so I can't justify that money. To be fair all I need is the goyfs and lilis, but that is still $1000.
>>44204620
Oh man that actually got me good. Just imagining the frustrated look of your opponent as you try not to giggle at such a fucking ridiculous situation
>>44204633
What the fuck why are goyfs more expensive in Canada. I thought the Lhurgoyf family were used to the cold
>>44204682
Canadian dollar is total shit
>>44204693
Absolute garbage anon. I feel for you.
>>44204682
our dollar is still pretty weak.
Does anyone know of a MTG shop that is Canadian based and cheap?
>>44204492
There are literally no key plays in zero to one G/B/U/W and n generic/red mana other than Oblivion Stone or Nature's Claim for any tier deck that's not Twin.
Would u or uw tron be a good way to get into modern?
>>44204714
Wizards tower
>>44194369
Thanks I appreciate the rundown. Sounds kind of disheartening plus I'm kind of at a loss though as to what to play now.
I did see a list someone ran of a basically more midrangey bogles that looked pretty fun. Does that suck too? I do want to change some aspects of it though.
http://www.starcitygames.com/article/32035_Daily-Digest-Bogles-Ascended.html
>>44194818
>in front of the colossal roided up Goyf trying to make you his woman.
>mfw
>>44204756
Its not a bad way, U Tron is a decent deck. Its just not tier one or two.
>>44204771
I'd fuck a goyf. I could probably kill a man afterwards depending what was in his garbage can.
>>44204761
Hot diggity. Thanks man. How is Puca Trader? I heard it's slow, but eventually you get what you came for
>>44204806
Garbage x2
1) Canada has shit postage so you lose value there
2) a lot of fakes on there
>>44204806
people only promote that because it's a pyramid scheme and want to pull out quicker
>>44204817
Man, that's why I don't use it. I'm paranoid about getting fakes.
>>44204817
Thanks for the warning. I guess if I wanna play Jund I'll have to do it the real way.
It's still a while away, but what do you think will be in MM3. Do you think it'll come out summer 2016?
>>44204865
I know that feel man. I'm just going to wait for the summer and if I can get onto a research project and get paid any money I can save up for the last of jund
>>44204865
It takes a while, but Jund is definitely worth it.
>>44204897
>but what do you think will be in MM3.
A lot of stuff that was in MM2, maybe Snap or Lili too
Do you think it'll come out summer 2016?
No
>>44204903
>>44204908
Well thanks for the encouragement. I am going to bed, due to finals, but I will do what I have to do to get my Jund.
>>44204897
2017. It'll probably be every two years.
>>44204908
This. Its just so much fun to play.
>>44204791
Would it be pretty easy to upgrade to a better tron later? Rg looks cool but it would take me a while to save the money.
>>44204714
>>44204633
Why the fuck don't you just order internationally?
Also, MM15 Goyfs have the new foiling mark at the bottom, guaranteed not fake.
>>44204948
It would be pretty pricy still but not too hard
I never realized until now that Darkness was modern legal.
>>44202719
Why arent you playingDuskmantle Mindcrankas preperation for when Bloom is banned?
With Aether vial you can turn 3 win
Reprint Stifle. Nothing can go wrong.
>>44206065
Dont do this man
This will mean the death of duals in modern, effectively ruining most tricolour decks
Delver will become a meme and every variant will be tier 1
If you want this, also unban stoneforge mystic and Umezawas jitte so there is a deck that can compete with it
>>44206097
I'm down. UWR Delver let's go.
>>44206120
Fucking no, I played that as a legacy deck and it made people cry
This would dominate literally every deck in modern
If this was done you would have to unban Cloudpost and reprint crop rotation so Tron would be somewhat decent, so you couldnt just Stifle artifacts, as well as give most decks something like Deathrite Shaman so they dont just seem bad in comparison
80 percent of the t3 decks would die
Aggromill can work, it's just fragile and really reliant on archive
T1 crab
T2 twincast+archive or glimpse
T3 mind funeral
T4 glimpse + twincast or trapmakers>archive + twincast or glimpse + breaking
Idk it's basically burn but you count to 50 instead of 20. You need to hit a free archive or it's too slow, and if they disrupt you it'll probably be too slow, but goddamn if it isn't fast some games.
>t1 crab
>t2 twincast archivetrap
>t3 archive trap, mind funeral, gg?
>>44206144
I know it's probably a bad idea in the long run but I'll be damned if I wouldn't enjoy it while everything crashed and burned.
>>44206199
>mfw i run UR delver
>4 stifle
>4 dispel
Only blue can deal with blue
>>44206236
>also guttural response skyrockets in price
>>44206236
Would still fold to Jund with Deathrite, probably. Or Junk with Deathrite + Stoneforge.
>>44206253
I'm of the opinion that deathrite/bloodbraid aren't too op.
Deathrite is a mana dork mixed with a lavamancer (that can gain life) with a sick 1/2 bod. At the very least he depowers your goyf/tasigur and I think thats pretty neat. All things considered he would be a 4 of in all GB decks (and maybe burn) but hey he depowers goyf HAVE I MADE IT CLEAR HOW MUCH I HATE GOYF
>>44206334
No, he would ruin every deck that plays from its graveyard in modern
Completely broken card. Should never have been printed
Even in legacy Delver, people prefer him as a t1 play over Delver of Secrets
>>44206360
Oh yeah I forgot that he's also a relic of progenitus. For a second I thought he only used his graveyard.
What possesed wotc to make him a 1/2 is completely beyond me
>>44205500
holy moly
>>44206448
Abzan turbofog anyone?
fuck combo decks; bring it on, zoo.
>>44206631
i'm gonna try straight wb turbo
hey /modern/, i've been playing a lot of tron lately
a few problems i've been running into and would love answers to
Are there more reliable answers for RG tron to have to the following:
>Stony Silence
>Blood Moon
>Magus of the moon
Another question. Why is pyroclasm mainboarded as 4 of? I hardly ever use it, and sideboard it out in most of the games I play
So far I'm about 10-4 and I've played against most of the major decks, except for RDW.
thanks
>>44206741
It's to combat RDW
>>44206776
guess I just haven't seen as much of RDW as everyone else has.
>>44206741
>Why is pyroclasm mainboarded as 4 of? I hardly ever use it, and sideboard it out in most of the games I play
It beats decks that beat you.
>>44206741
Nature's claim is your friend. Instant, one mana, can blow up your own egg for a bit of life in a sticky situation, stops the twin combo. Real workhorse for the deck.
>>44203132
i know dat feel
If I have two attacking creatures that are 2/2s, and each has a "When this creature deal combat damage to a player" effect, and my opponent plays an instant that prevents the next three damage;
which of us decides what happens? Combat damage is simultaneous right, so which creature's damage is "next"?
>>44203391
Float BG in response to Blood Moon, after it resolves hit it with Decay. It's much easier to answer when you don't tap out.
>Favorite card you play with in modern?
Cranial Plating
>Favorite card you don't play with in modern?
Delver
>Least favorite card in modern?
Stony Silence
>>44206993
Any one he chooses.
>>44206993
sorry, found it
>615.7. ...
>If damage would be dealt to the shielded creature or player by two or more applicable sources at the same time, the player or the controller of the creature chooses which damage the shield prevents.
>>44206995
You sir are very smart and you've opened my eyes to dealing with stuff by floating mana
cheers
>>44203132
>finks
I've had a player on xmage just scoop turn 1 when he saw me drop a glistener elf, kek
>>44204633
Same with UK - shit's just expensive as here. Half the time it's just replacing the $ with a £.
>>44207182
Canada here, not that guy tho.
Ordered proxies today...
Hopefully they don't look fucked.
I'm pretty excited but I'll only use the snapcasters, goyfs might raise an eyebrow
Imma just feign ignorance if caught.
Acting stupid is a canadian commonality
>>44207356
You're in Canada, just keep saying sorry and you'll be fine.
Viability of an Allies deck in Modern?
>>44207428
Idk duder
Build it, make it great.
Lantern scout seems dank
Could probably beat aggro/midrange but the twin combo will be a pain unless you prepare for it.
I beat burn with my turns deck so anything is possible if you believe in it
>>44207428
Could be good depending on the colors
Jwari Shapeshifter seems like a kickass sleeper
>>44207428
I don't know how they'd hold up in a Modern environment (probably not well), but Resolute Blademaster and Hero of Goma Fada are disgusting together. You could probably do something with Twin
>>44207575
There's no real point in playing Splinter Twin unless you're going to accidentally go infinite.
>>44207428
Better than you might think
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-A3jH16IkE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMXRpfeDHUE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr7N1oxkjvw
>>44204150
Ghost quarter is a minus for you, tec edge is too slow to be good on mana denial.
>>44206741
I know someone that runs 4 firespout instead of pyroclasm because it takes care of bigger threats and usually karn isnt your best turn 3 play anyway and if he is, you've probably already won the game
>>44207428
I've been posting about it
4C BUGW in this deck a guy I know built, was tearing shit up. Use the allies to mill yourself into an enourmous rally the ancestors for a lethal combo
>>44205500
I got a buddy who runs it side board in ad nauseum
>>44206199
nO!!! STIFLE.....r..... nOT CUTE!!!
>>44206741
Nature's claim, and 4 pyroclasms to beat aggro
>>44207000
Affinity player found B)
>>44207356
As long as you don't try to trade them away that's fine. If you do you're a cunt.
>>44207428
Not big rn imo
>>44208005
I used to run 2/2
>>44206370
So he couldn't be gut shotted. Also most aggro decks would rather drop a mana dork turn one, access to 3mana on turn2 gets you pretty far
>>44204132
>i just want a 2r that says: you win the game
would you want it to be not affected for counters too? :)
>>44204405
>
chinamen have those cards for like 2 dollars each
Also, anyone who plays twin, any advice on piloting the deck? I've only ever played it a few times before now
>>44209236
Acting like a retard isn't trolling
Does basilisk collar see modern play?
>>44210457
NOt that I've ever seen. Its not good enough
>>44206674 Batwing Brume wincon?
>>44210457
Actually I've been testing it in skred
Nobody ever wants to block koth mountains so I get some nice lifelink and it turns reckoner into a killing machine
Speaking of unbans
Could we unban this card?
I highly doubt this would lead to anything broken as most people don't even know its on the ban list.
>>44210998
You're a fucking idiot.
>>44210998
That could lead to some nasty shit
>>44210998
Okay living end is now Show and Tell.
Congrats you've ruined an entire format.
>>44211038
How? It would just enable different cascade combos
>>44211055
I can see how it would be bad but no worse then Living End
I tire of the mentality that every single deck has to be ultra-pro tournament viable.
Sometimes I want games to go on longer than 4 turns.
>>44211068
Show and Tell is an awesome Legacy deck and probably my favorite in the format
>>44209590
Counter everything that gives you sadface, bolt threats, cast Pestermite/Exarch on end step, win.
>>44211070
Dude, turn 2-3 Emrakul. Its unbeatable. It would completely fuck up modern.
>>44211093
I want draw-go to be viable in modern, thats my dream
>>44211124
Okay play show and tell in legacy where the format can handle it. Modern would get fucked hardcore.
>>44211129
thx bby
>>44211093
They do if you play properly. Don't let twin combo every time.
Do something proactive to prevent a robot swarm.
I 4-0'd against top tiers with my jank
>>44202940
Same reason I play Izzet Storm on cockatrice and Forge but not in real life; it's a far more fun deck when the game handles the triggers and deck searching for you.
>>44211158
Sadly no one plays Legacy in my whole town. I'm stuck with modern which I also enjoy.
>>44211221
Same, my legacy deck is going to waste. I'm probably going to sell it to play legacy on MODO anyways.
>>44211158
>turn 2-3
But Suspend 3 would make it at least turn 5. Unless you're running Clockspinning, which I've never seen anyone run in a competitive deck. Only time I've ever run it is on kitchen table to get the Zendikar Quest/Ascension enchantments online.
>>44211350
You cascade into it. You don't suspend it.
>>44211362
Oh well that changes things. Yeah that'd get mean.
>>44211350
Your sad little kid.
>>44211070
If you think Hypergenesis wouldn't be worse for the format than Living End, then you are a fool. Living End requires setup by putting creatures into the graveyard, and those creatures are pretty mediocre because they need to have cycling. Hypergenesis doesn't have that amount of setup or the restriction on creatures. Turn 2 Living End can get a couple 3/4's. Turn 2 Hypergenesis can get Urabrask, Terastodon, and Emrakul for the win that turn.
>>44204447
Guy who built it didn't know skred existed (or at least forgot about it) when someone mentioned it in the comments his basic response was that he should've been playing it.
It's a bit different from how skred lists usually were.
>>44211395
What?
>>44211399
But the other player can just choose not to put anything into play.
>>44211594
One huge creature will win you the game. Only one. You don't need more than that
>>44211594
That's not how Hypergenesis works. It stops when everyone chooses to not put something onto the battlefield.
>9/25/2006 In a game of N players, the process ends when all N players in sequence (starting with you) choose not to put a card onto the battlefield. It doesn't end the first time a player chooses not to put a card onto the battlefield. If a player chooses not to put a card onto the battlefield but the process continues, that player may put a card onto the battlefield the next time the process gets around to him or her.
Was thinking of putting together an esper mentor deck. Can that deck be really competitive?
>people want hypergenesis unbanned
I quit magic.
>>44211630
Possibly. I play it occasionally. The problem comes from the fact that its hard to play and its less powerful than other midranged decks.
>>44211659
No one wanted you anyway
>>44202719
>Favorite card you play with in modern?
Lightning Bolt
>Favorite card you don't play with in modern?
Skred
>Least favorite card in modern?
Remand
>>44211891
>Remand
I too hate time walk
>>44211915
In a way its better than time walk really, because it also makes your opponent waste a card.
>>44205236
You'll have roughly half of gr Tron if you build u Tron. Too bad the other half is like 600 dollars
>>44211953
>playing scapeshift
>opponent casts a spell
>remand it
>they tap out to negate remand
>remand my remand
>recast the remand and remand their original spell
There is no single better feeling
>>44211954
IMO, GR Tron can be built on a budget while you buy the rest of the deck piece by piece.
Eg: you can play any GR land instead of Grove and Steel Hellkites instead of Karns as placeholders and the deck will still work.
Sure, it won't be T1 if you play it with subpar pieces (duh!), but it'll still work and win.
thoughtseize vs inquistion of kozelik?
>>44212101
Usually you want a split. Inquisition is pretty much better against like 90% of the field. There's an argument that Thoughtseize is better against Tron but Tron wrecks decks that play hand disruption anyway.
>>44212101
Inquisition is better when you play against lots of aggro since their curves are lower and you don't pay 2 lifes.
TS is better against control, combo and tron since you can afford the life loss and you really want to remove their key cards (or payoff cards in tron).
>>44212137
>>44212154
I think my head knew the answer...but my wallet wasn't so thrilled about the prospect.
>>44212240
Welcome to the most expensive hobby outside of miniature wargaming.
>>44212306
hah, I've got 3 40k armies, a warmahordes army, and some other stuff laying around. Magic isn't as time expensive as wargaming though and a hell of a lot more people play it locally.
>>44212348
Yeah. Too bad all my Warmachine shit got stolen and the community died. I loved the game but now I'm SOL. Serves me right for trying new things
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/18-08-15-sick-burn-bro/
You know what is a great feeling? Being the only Burn player at your LGS
>>44212396
yeah, I feel you. I only wargame with old friends in the comfort of our homes. I think I would lose my shit if I had an army stolen. My black templars, pretty much ever one of them is a conversion and/or metal from the pre-finecast days. Hopefully you find a bro or two to play with.
>>44212306
>most expensive hobby
Do you know any gun nuts
>>44210998
This is the problem, when you see people talking about banlists. Sometimes there are those few that know what shit is going on and how you could make a better bans/unbans. But the vast majority of conversation of banlist is people like this who want to unban stuff like Hypergenesis without a single argument, why to do so. They even neglect the very reason why they are on banlist anyway. Mtgsalvation is the worst forum in this aspect.
It would be interesting to see no banlist modern, where they take the most broken card hey think out after each tournament. I suppose stuff like skullclamp, genesis and few others would be obvious choice, but it would be interesting to see what the format would look like as a legacy lite.
>>44212436
Remember to breathe.
>>44212436
Don't come to my meta its a fuckton of burn and aggro.
>>44212452
I had one but DESU he's almost insufferable at time so..
>>44212471
guns are a lifestyle not a hobby :^)
>>44212473
Talking about the banlist is great when people know what they're talking about.
>>44212564
>Don't come to my meta its a fuckton of burn and aggro.
sounds like some hick ass town that can't be bothered to learn magic.i feel bad for you.
>>44212473
I never understood what "legacy lite" means.
>>44212703
Ayy you're half right. Its a college town so we gather all sorts although its a shitty college. Theres a lot of very competitive modern players here which is rad dad but theres even more shitty modern players.
Its funny because the people with the redneck accents who work on farms and shit are some of the best modern players. Super pleasant to be around and competitive dudes. Cute too.
Also my windswepts just came in so now I own every Khans fetch. Gunna make sure not to get rid of these like my Zen fetches (although I was more than happy to when they all shot up to 100 and more)
>>44212564
>Don't come to my meta its a fuckton of burn and aggro.
I would rather be yet another burn player in a sea of aggro than be stuck in Abzan Memerange and Jeskai Control hell
The only other aggro deck in my meta is a guy who plays Merfolk
>>44212844
Damn, your meta is the opposite of ours. Its stuff like Twin, Tron, Jund (two to three players including myself), aggro zoo decks, Grixis stuff, and Ad Nauseum. Its actually pretty healthy when you ignore the burn/aggro
should i buy stoneforge mystic now or wait?
>>44212943
Depends on how sure you are that it will be unbanned. Itll shoot up if announced unban but It'll fall back down with the promo reprint
>>44212943
Now, honestly. If it doesn't get unbanned in Modern you can still use it to start getting into Legacy.
If you get two you can use them as a backup plan in any deck that runs white. I tucked mine into Knightfall for those rare corner cases when shit absolutely doesn't come together.
>>44212980
that promo is sweet and i fear they will unban int and will be forever gone of my hands. but it's the only reason i see stoneforge mystic as a promo, not?
>>44213005
Dunno. It might be, but it might not be. If you're super worried go for it, if you have 80 buxx to spare
whelp, I just order 4x thoughtseize and 4x inquistion of koz for my shitty rakdos deck.
>>44211877
No. Nobody wants Hypergenesis in Modern, even I don't, and I have 4 of them right now. It just wouldn't be a fun deck.
>>44213100
Decklist? Also they're good cards that wont be reprinted for a while so good to get em now
>>44213121
Same, I have a beautiful foil but like its just too powerful for the format
>>44212799
Should I invest into Fetchlands now? I have a full set of windeswept, but nothing else.
>>44213132
sure ni inquisitino reprint? this seem kozileks set
>>44213157
Either right now or right as they rotate out of standard. They will probably never be this cheap again
>>44213173
Um, pardon?
>>44213184
He said "Are you sure there isn't going to be a reprint? This seems like the only time it COULD happen."
I'll start buying into them, also when should I buy my zendikar Fetches?
>>44212910
The last I counted my Meta has:
3 Abzan Company decks and 2 Abzan Midrange
1 Jund player
1 Merfolk player
2 Bloom Titan players
1 player who flips between Scapeshift and Affinity every other week.
1 Grixis Control player
3 Jeskai control players
and 1 guy who plays infect, but only shows up every other week
The Abzan and Jeskai Players get salty as all fuck when I beat them and always spout shit like "You just got a lucky top deck, I should have won that." and "Burn is a stupid deck and takes no skill at all."
>>44213218
>when should I buy my zendikar Fetches?
I'm wondering this too...those shit's are all 50+
>>44213218
You should have bought them when everyone thought they were being reprinted when BFZ was first announced.
I'd start getting them now.
>>44213005
I doubt SFM as the promo means that it's suddenly going to come unbanned in Modern, but scheduling three GP events for the 29-31 makes me suspicious. That's the week after Gatewatch.
If I were you I'd wait and see what GP Oakland does to prices January 8-10 before making a decision.
>>44213184
Oath of the gatewatch seems very kozilek centered, it could be reprinted there
>>44213221
>"Burn is a stupid deck and takes no skill at all."
They're not wrong
>>44213218
Oh, I guess I see that now. I suppose it could be, come to think of it
Buy ZEN fetches when they're reprinted. Way too much money right now to justify it unless you're really anal about your lands.
>>44213221
Jesus so much midrange/control. And if Abzan and Jeskai lose to burn fuck em, they have tools to overcome that and if they can't realise that burn is a legitimate deck they should probably stop playing magic
>>44213132
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/rakdosmodernkitchentable/
>>44213295
Cool shit, nice to see Rakdos that isn't all tiny creatures
what should i use to do5colorgoodstuf.dck
>>44213320
its actually pretty effective, probably going to experiment with removing the blightning, bile blight, crater's claws in different ratios to replace with thoughtseize and inquisition of koz
>>44213352
Bring to Light, Gifts Ungiven
>>44213360
Tell me how it does
>>44206741
pyroclasm is your only chance of beating infect
>>44213290
I never thought I would ever say it, but honestly I miss playing against Twin, Living End and Tron. My new LGS is fun to play at so long as I don't get paired up against the Jeskai or Abzan players. Long durdle-y control matches stress me out.
>tfw you are a living stereotype of burn players: Low attention span, hasty and autistic.
>>44213521
sudden shock is better IMO
>>44213532
I'm the opposite desu, fast games against infect, burn, or even sometimes Twin make me want to pull my hair out with worry. I'd rather grind.
>>44213560
Too narrow for tron
What do you guys make of this Boros Enchantment Prison deck? Really liking the idea of it but I'm not too certain if I've built it to maximum efficiency; for what it is obviously.
http://deckstats.net/deck-8597397-9e1e820d0f3c60201d0bbd5f04bf53ed.html
>>44213604
Oh wow, thats pretty funny. I'd have to see it in action before I decided anything.
Man, all this talk about stoneforge unbanning makes me want to go buy swords. Too bad they're like 30 bucks each
>>44213812
don't forget batterskulls too
>>44213832
I have a batterskull somewhere, and they're not too expensive, like 10 bucks or so
>>44213221
I am sorry for my junk brethren. Their attitude is pathetic.
>mfw I lose to burn
Is infect's jund matchup as bad as it looks on paper? I don't understand how it ever manages to do well in a format where decks have 8+ removal spells.
>>44208284
>trading counterfiets
Hey man I may be poor but I'm not a cunt. Thats like a 5th circle sin right there
At the very worst I may play them unsleeved while eating cheetos
>>44214019
Its not as bad, Vines of Vastwood is a vicious fucking card that I wish would die.
>>44214031
Good on you man. Also that would be hilarious to watch. Riffle shuffling fake tarmogoyfs as your opponents tear up
>>44214043
Vines and other protection are a lifesafer, maybe spell pierce in the sideboard? They have so many removal but you could bait the bolt out with your creature pumps.
As for hand disruption, that's tough to deal with.
Become Immense puts in work in that matchup.
>>44213604
>http://deckstats.net/deck-8597397-9e1e820d0f3c60201d0bbd5f04bf53ed.html
Don't play path to exile with maindeck bloodmoon. You can try running maindeck suppression field instead of leyline, would go a long way in certain metas (twin).
>>44214019
Also it's generally a tough matchup depending on what they draw (removal+bob) so don't be hesitant to focus some sideboard hate on it.
I personally hate burn and have like 8 cards dedicated in the sb to it.
>>44213282
That's not true, you still have to play correctly and known certain interactions. Not too much but still, you can just punt as burn I've seen it happen many times.
>>44211953
>Remand is time walk
Someone has literally never cast time walk before.
I have very little Magic experience, and would like to get into Modern.
Before I go out to buy anything, could I get some help with these decks?
(And how do you build a good sideboard?)
>>44214019
I run invisible stalkers in the side. It's a rough matchup but winnable as long as you play tight.
