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old thread >>43424415
If you buy Kingdom Death, you're paying waaaaay too much for porn.
>>43450456
Kingdom Death is the Rance of Wargaming
you initially come for the ass n tits, but stay for the awesome gameplay and story
>>43450456
There is no TnA in the actual KD board game. Just FYI.
So I was tired of painting tacs and decided to add some termies to my army. I made my squad leader first. His arm was really fun to do. I used a bionic leg of a dead marine found on the base of the fulgrim model. The head is...well...Eidolon. I preferred the helmet to the head so I just used the head bit. The skull is from my GF's dark eldar bits box aswell as the wrack mask on his belt/ groin area and the chains hanging from under his shoulderpad. The hand is from the Grey Knights termie set. Thought it would be a cute little "Fuck you" to khorne. Anyways, how did I do overall?
>>43451542
I like it, but the blade on the bolter might be a bit too long, comparing with the gun itself. And the hair is a very, very white, too white to be honest.
Other than that, a rather nice model.
>>43451367
My bad, all the tits and ass KD models made me assume wrong
>>43450456
>>43451676
These fucking retards every time.
>Optional pinup models to drum up interest and get more money. Not included in base game, only bought by people who wanted those specific models. Many of them either don't have rules, or have non-pinup versions.
>Lololol you guys are playing a poooorn game, lololol magical realm.
When did a bunch of nerds turn into such Talibans anyway? Is it people overcompensating for being such perverts in private? Were they molested by plastic kits as kids? Catholic as fuck? What?
>>43451676
Witch Elves and Daemonettes were topless since before your balls dropped son, and those were the STANDARD models, most of the T&A KD models are special alternative versions.
So I guess warhammer is a porn game too.
>>43451816
bit defensive there m8
. pretty magical realm desu senpai
>>43451635
That's the blade that comes on that bolter...
>>43451925
Yeah, that's cute but I own a ton of juan diaz stuff and I admitted I was wrong so you can calm down now
>>43452173
No you didn't admit you were wrong, you were being a sarcastic little twat and you know it, don't pretend otherwise.
So I wen't a little nuts on this venom. I wanted to make it look like ratmen looted it. What do you think?
It still hovers I just need to create the mount for the flying base underneath still.
>>43452549
That's just you projecting, shitposting and starting fights when there's nothing to fight over. Post WIP or get out.
>>43451367
>>43451816
Come on. Even the monster have t&a. One of them even got an anal vore attack. Tell me that's not magical realm, I dare you.
Don't be so defensive about it. If you like it you like, at least be honest and embrace it.
Realized why people use Khorne red on these things instead of darker tones
Will call it a blood reaper and continue painting it
WIP of my Plasma Knight. It's been months since I worked on it ha
So, question. What tools do you guys use mainly? Citadel own or stuff you guys have found over the years? I was given a small set of Citadel brushes and home tools by an old hobby friend of mine but I wanna get something better as they are all either worn out, used up or just not that good.
tl;dr tool recommendations
Help me, WIP, you're my only hope!
After more than 10 years of non-painting I'm finding myself with dozens of tiny plastic toys on my hands.
Back in the day, Vallejo were the colours of choice, are they still any good? What about washes? I've read that with inks or washes other brands might be better.
>>43452703
I feel like it might have worked better if you had flipped the cannon over and found a way to put the joint of the arm directly on the gun rather than attaching it to the knight-kit's gun.
>>43452735
Winsor and Newton Series 7 brushes + brush soap. They are expensive as hell, but last fucking forever if you take care of them.
Badger airbrush, but don't use it much anymore.
>>43452673
There is no TnA in the actual KD board game. Just FYI.
And no, your example is not TnA.
>>43452763
Vallejo paints are great, but check your air metallics for clogging because sometimes there are old bottles on the rack. For washes, secret weapon, army painter, gw or vallejo's non-dipping solutions work well
>>43452789
hm. usually people progress to airbrush, not away.
why no more airbrush>?
>>43450436
DIBs on the right HO!
>>43452958
Several reasons: Hard to use in my current apartment, I feel it "cheapens" good blending and doesn't look as good as well done wet/two brush blends, and cleaning it is a bitch and a half.
alright, so progress on my infiltrator unit for Skitarii. Fixed with some over all details, and working on some weathering atm.
Will be doing some base work tomorrow, and a seal to finish of.
>>43453086
'cheapens' good blending?
>>43452927
Anyone have experience thinning down normal vallejo game color or model colors for an airbrush? Wondering how well that will work as I don't really want to go out and buy paints specifically for airbrushing if normal paint plus thinner is enough.
>>43453407
Model and air are fine with thinner, game color is mixed with varnish, not sure how good that is for airbrush durability
>>43453407
You can mix all that shit with regular tap water. Works just fine. But if you want to spend the extra buck, for no additional effect, have at it.
Airbrush people...
Looking at getting this generic Chinese airbrush
Any opinions on it?
tinyurl[dot]
com/q3jntmv
>>43453407
How about citadel paint?
I've seen both positive and negative opinions of its ability to be thinned and airbrushed
>>43453306
Most of the time you can tell airbrush blending from brush blending. It's less accurate and it looks unnatural
>>43453166
How do you do such a smooth gradient? Relatively new to painting (never actually completed a model) but really interested in techniques.
>>43453973
i paint boats for a living, id go airbrushing for vehicles/big fuckers and land/buildings.
but then again i prefer the brush, and am in no rush for completion, where do i have to be, we all gonna end up in the dirt
>>43450478
If your game ever turns up that is.
And if/when it does, dont forget to let literally everyone know by posting on every site you can find. Then do an unboxing video. Then post your special snowflake game variant that you think makes you uber creative. Then paint the models badly and post them literally everywhere again.
>>43452926
>kdm fanboys
Have you said your 100 "I love poots" for the day yet?
>>43454203
You know that "i love poots" is on every part of the game? Every base, the box it comes in, the rules book etc.
>>43454245
Bullshit. Unless poots is a literal neckbeard - how would he even sell shit if he basically writes "i love myself" on everything. i own a few kdm models and havent seen it
>>43454282
>being this blind and stupid
If you actually did own kdm models, you would know that "i luv poots" is on every base. Also on the cards that come with pinup models
>>43454108
Yeah it's great for doing basecoats with zenital highlights but for swords and other power weapons it just lacks charm
>>43452673
The game box doesnt come with T & A models. The stuff you're referring to was kickstarter goals, most of it not used in the game if Im not mistaken.
>>43454102
For these miniatures I used mostly simple techniques. Drybrush on the metal parts, wetblending with a brush on the gray, finishing with some edging. Did some on the coat with my airbrush as its the only surface large enough to actually get any use out of it. Just a quick highlight to speed up the work.
Washed with GW washes, weathered with MIG powders, and AK interactive rust streaks. Fixed some decals with Micro SET/SOL.
To get a good gradient, its all about working with thin layers of watered down paint, and don't swap the damn thing. You want you're paint to be under control, with this technique, every layer of paint (even the same color gradient), will add to the highlights. The red helm at the bottom for instance, is all painted in one color, but I used several coats well blended to make it appear as if its darker down the base. If I wanted to go higher, one could go for an orange or light red, and continue this transition.
My tip, check out YouTube, they got tons of great blending videos.
>>43452578
Looks like 2 different kits bashed together, but cool. I guess it will all come down to how it's painted if you can get the 2 styles to blend together. How do you plan on doing the pilot and gunner?
>>43453407
Depends on the individual bottle. Some colors typically require more thinning than others, some none at all.
I wouldnt recommend using 'normal' paint in an airbrush, def not in a .25 or .2
To get the GW site 'Eavy Metal standard should you start by applying the lightest in layers nearest to the edges and then going over the non-highlighted areas in darker colours? Or am I forced to edge highlight?
Also is airbrushing objectively superior?
>>43453565
Not sure what the tap water is like where you live, but most tap water contains particulates that can affect the paint by leaving a visible residue on the finish. Over time tap water impurities can also damage an airbrush or sable brush.
The $5-$10 for thinner for your airbrush, or $2 for a few gallons of distilled water are both worth it.
>>43454396
>lacks charm
Define?
To me its all about what you try to achieve. The airbrush is a great tool for, as you mention, base coat, cover large areas with paint, Zenital highlights. But one of its main areas of work is to blend colors. Some know how to work it, some don't, just like a regular brush.
My point being, this wargaming hipster trend blowing /tg/s whistle ain't my tune. I believe the airbrush to be a great tool, but thats just it. And thats just it, to the professional painter, its just a tool, nothing more. So I find it disturbing when people (and this happens quite frequently) nags about on how wrong it is to use the airbrush for jobs its perfectly designed for, only because it feels like cheating.
Well, next time you paint the eyes of you're miniature, reflect on why you use the fine detail, and not the tank brush.
Practice test of my death guard.. Daemons cos why not
Posting more krieg
>>43454595
To put it simply, once you get over the learning curve that comes with a couple of airbrushing techniques and get used to manuverinG it, you'll be amazed.
and another view of the krieg
>>43453705
Spend the $100 and get an iwata eclipse. Dont get the fake iwata, get the gravity fed hp-cs. Its the best entry level brush available, and one of the best all around brushes there is. Its durable, reliable, somewhat easy to clean, and at .25 its small enough to use on 28mm infantry.
>>43454667
Can you drink it? Then you sure as hell can put it in the airbrush. I have had my airbrush for about 9 years, and I haven't noticed ANY damage at all from that.
And exactly what "particulates" is there in this tap water we must avoid? Do you know more of it, or is it just some stupid shit you have red on the internet?
From personal experience, just don't go all along with all you read on the internet. Its full of shit that most of the time just isn't true, to make you spend more money on shit you don't really need.
>>43454719
What's that taped to the wall?
>>43453705
>generic Chinese
>Chinese
You don't need to ask this question; when has "Chinese" ever been synonymous with "quality"? It's a bootleg brush. Anything Chinese is a bootleg brush. Even if you somehow get some miracle Chinese brush without shit machining, you won't be able to replace the soft ass shit steel needles it comes with when they all bend on you. Good airbrushes don't go for less than $100 US retail, ever. The one notable exception to the rule MIGHT be an Iwata Neo, only because the Japs are enforcing the QC at gunpoint.
>>43454595
>To get the GW site 'Eavy Metal standard should you start by applying the lightest in layers nearest to the edges and then going over the non-highlighted areas in darker colours?
No, you go dark to light.
>Or am I forced to edge highlight?
Well the "'Eavy Metal standard" you are referring to uses edge highlighting, so obviously?
>Also is airbrushing objectively superior?
Depends. If you are looking to save time, get more easy blending or lighting, or want an airbrushed look, then yes. There are some things airbrush cannot do, and if you just go ham with the brush you end up with overbrushed looking pieces of shit like pic related. I had an even worse example from this studio done in this style, but with a Riptide and obnoxious circles of glaring OSL everywhere, but I don't actually keep that shit on my hard drive so I can't find it right now.
>>43453565
>extra buck
Airbrush paints cost the same as thick paints.
>no additional effect
Not if he has shitty water, or doesn't know how to thin properly. And if you think even filtered water is as good as actual thinner for painting then...I dunno. Shit painter detected? Whatever, this is /tg/ so I'm not even surprised, morons like you post here every day.
>>43454787
The Neo is so close in price to a cheap Eclipse or Revolution I think you should just pony up the difference and get the better brush.
>>43453705
Get you're cheep ass airbrush, unless you're starting up a professional painting service you wont notice the difference.
I had the expensive kind ($250 when I bought it years ago), and got a new one when my compressor broke down (also the expensive kind). I had to get one in a rush, so I when to my local hardware store and got a complete set for $70, including brush, compressor, hose, extra cup, extra needle, you name it!
And lo and behold my surprise when it worked like a boss! Did the exact same work I had been doing for several years. And this was about... 1 year ago, still running perfect.
>>43454309
Is this true? Anyone confirm?
If so - holy shit what a fucking dickhead
>>43454705
you take photos like a teenage girl. got your face in there fine while fucking up the thing you're trying to show in the first place
>>43454850
>you wont notice the difference
Maybe if all you're doing is basecoating. But if you can't tell the difference in trigger feel between a Chinese brush and an actual good brush then I dunno you must have petrified Gorgon victim stumps for fingers.
>>43454770
Calm down anon. I live in Phoenix, AZ and there is visible residue at the bottom of a glass of tap water here. I lived in Anchorage, AK and its the same there.
Calcium being the #1 offender. If I rinse my brush with tapwater here, then apply a dark layer or a wash, there will be a white residue in the recesses of the model when the paint dries.
Thats great you dont have that problem.
>>43454850
>QUALITY
Can you guess which one is from Harbor Freight?
>>43454814
Well, I only have a modest 17 years of experience of painting miniatures in the back pocket. Don't know about you, but to me thats a fair share of it.
With he extra buck, I meant for the water instead of thinner you idiot, did you not read the whole question?
And no, if the water is of some what quality, you get a fairly standard effect. The paints (most of them), is fully compatible with water and is a product SPECIFICALLY MADE so not to need any stronger substances to mix the color. Learn you're history new guy, before you start hating on others.
>>43454879
Hes trolling for replies, he posts them in wip threads all the time. The pics are from some other tard though, not the tard posting them.
>>43454894
Again, no. The quality part is definitely no question about. I'm sure this old bag will break in a matter of years, not that it matters for a price of $11.
But the product you can put out is just about as good as my old brush, its all in the hands of the painter I'm afraid. And if you need quality stuff to paint better, you're just not that good of a painter I take it.
>>43454950
Water dries faster than acrylic retardant. If you thin with a retarder or thinner cocktail, you automatically gain benefits over water. Claiming water is "just the same" as factually superior liquids is stupid. It doesn't matter how long you've been painting, since you're clearly a retard to begin with.
>>43454719
>>43454705
every time
>>43454770
>From personal experience, just don't go all along with all you read on the internet. Its full of shit that most of the time just isn't true, to make you spend more money on shit you don't really need.
Applies equally to shitty painters on /tg/ telling you to save money because they are poor and are too shit at painting to tell the difference between an acrylic thinner and water since they don't even blend to begin with.
speaking of trolling for replies, wasnt there someone on /tg/ who posts his wips but also has a portrait of Hitler in the background?
>>43455001
I'm saying, if you're painting a miniature and using paint long enough for it to dry in the cup. You're doing it wrong mate.
Thus, stop being this retarded and just face it, its a unnecessary product produced so some (you in fact) can feel better for themselves for having more stuff they actually don't need, but cost more money so it must be better.
>>43454950
Dude you're an asshole. You have shit on two people now and neither was warranted. You made a stupid assumption about the first guy, because you were too ignorant to be aware of varying water quality.
Now you're either lying/backpedaling, or being a total asshole because someone misunderstood.
Seriously, you must be a miserable piece of shit sitting there spitting vitriol at anyone unfortunate enough to catch your attention. Consider suicide.
>>43455025
Oh, see >>43455052, It applies to you to it seems.
>>43452578
Bust up the Venom some, if the orks salvaged it the hull wouldnt look so clean.
The more you thin something with water, the worse it gets compared to acrylic medium. If you've ever feathered 20+ layers or tried glazing, you'd know what I'm talking about. It's either the water's fault or the paint's fault, but since we all use the same brands of paint (Citadel, Vallejo, etc) but live in different cities with different tap water that leaves only one option.
>>43455052
Holy shit youre one retarded faggot.
>>43455072
>>43455052
>dry in the cup
Since when was I talking about airbrushing? You know Golden Daemon painters use retarders because they have to keep certain mixes alive long enough while blending right?
I doubt your shitty advice that's not only inaccurate, but completely ignorant is better than anyone's in this thread.
>>43455061
Why, because I don't agree with you?
Because I say to a guy, "from my perspective, just buy a cheep one, works just as fine for this kind of work".
How am I the bad guy here? Its not like I'm forcing my opinion on you. I have agreed that cheap price is shit quality, but I have also stated that it can produce just about the same quality of painting (again, on this scale, and for a happy hobbyist. Not someone who intends to start up a professional business, paining others miniatures for money). No need to get butt hurt just because you're super expensive gear just became as useful as a shitty $11 brush.
The same goes for this whole "what do I use for mixing paint?", you can absolutely use better stuff than water, I'm just saying, its not necessary. It wont show on the result, only reflect in you're wallet.
Again, if you go "boo hoo" on it, because you obviously am obsessed with these little things, don't blame me for having a second opinion.
>>43451816
Dude. Look at the models in the OP.
Those are the fucking starter models. Part of the base fucking game.
If you can look at those characters and not call them T&A, I don't know what to fucking say to you.
Because if you can do that, you're either a literal censor robot who only believes that nudity=exposed areolae and anuses. Or you're an apologist piece of shit and need to reevaluate your life.
>>43455188
>Why, because I don't agree with you?
No, because you're wrong. Non-water substances aren't water, therefore, they are going to have properties that water don't.
Since I have nothing in the works other than primed stuff, reposting Renegades.
>Zombies are from Mantic. Their Zombie Apocalypse and Zombie horde models
>Laser Destroyers, defence line, and Mortars from curious constructs. Nice bit of customization at checkout from them.
>Medusas are 1:32 scale Vietnam era Long Toms with barrels cut from ww2toys.net Got three more in the mail to use as earthshakers.
>>43455117
>This guy replying to a text aimed at helping a guy asking about airbrush and paints.
>Doesn't even read the full question.
Oh, so you're just retarded then. Could have said so from the start, would have saved us some time.
>>43455188
>The same goes for this whole "what do I use for mixing paint?", you can absolutely use better stuff than water, I'm just saying, its not necessary. It wont show on the result, only reflect in you're wallet.
Then it's not actually "better". If you're trying to claim you just suffer through using shitty thinners like pure water because you can't afford a $3 dropper of thinner, then maybe you shouldn't be in this hobby, especially when you've had "muh 17 years" to scrounge up said $3.
Here, have some video proof if you being wrong:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIJdNnNcQOo
>b-but that's oil
Oh, never heard of oil washes in over 17 years? Pffft.
>>43455212
Too bad 99% of competent airbrushers use isopropyl which is dirt cheap for their airbrush thinning or a squirt bottle of water + thinners.
>>43455204
>"Acrylic paint is a fast-drying paint containing pigment suspension in acrylic polymer emulsion. Acrylic paints are water-soluble, but become water-resistant when dry. Depending on how much the paint is diluted with water, or modified with acrylic gels, media, or pastes, the finished acrylic painting can resemble a watercolor or an oil painting, or have its own unique characteristics not attainable with other media"
And I take it you're not aiming for the paint to look like oil paint? This is from a regular Wikipedia. Just stop being stupid, and try to be a better human next time you log on, seriously.
>>43454558
Yeah painting should deal with some of that. The driver and gunner are going to be those little brain rats on the stormfiends. Im going to make those kits into talos, and the little ratlings will be perfect crewmen on my vehicles.
>>43455083
Well it's not looted by orks, it's looted by ratmen. Their goal will just be to get it working by overhauling the engines and everything, not just slapping random junk on it. I am thinking about doing some scratches and bullet holes on it.
>>43455267
The fucking line you quoted mentioned using non-water things to add to the acrylic for different effects you retard.
>log on
>to the internet
>or 4chan
Nigger what.
>>43455239
Again retard, I was originally answering to a post about a guy asking for acrylic paints for his airbrush.
How retarded are you? I take it you're not <12 years of age, so this must be it?
>>43455267
That wiki quote straight up says that water isn't the "best" thinner that "has the same result" as you claimed/are supporting.
>>43455290
>water-soluble
... need I say more?
>>43455304
Because he's going to paint with ONLY his airbrush right?
Don't even try to pretend your retarded, destitute niggardly ass wouldn't claim paintbrushes only need water to thin too. In fact, you're probably the same faggot who has been seen arguing multiple times on /tg/ that water is the best thinner. You might even be the same faggot who claimed you don't need to thin at all.
>>43455330
Nobody said water COULDN'T thin acrylics though. So no, you needn't say more, because you're a fucking idiot and the board is worse off for your presence.
You think the people using stuff other than water to thin can't just go and get a glass of water to thin if it's "better"? People aren't suggesting uses of thinners just to screw people over. You're the only one giving shit advice here.
>>43455269
Oh I'm sorry, I must have skipped over the line where you said that. In that case, I think it looks pretty cool!
Thinning airbrush with alcohol or floor wax or Windex serves a purpose. If you don't know why, then you probably aren't skilled enough to be arguing on the subject.
If he's just basecoating it won't matter but even using isopropyl over water will help with drying time, splatter, and spray distance and as a consequence, PSI.
![asj-042_1z[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/z3TUhSr.jpg "asj-042_1z[1].jpg")
>>43455409
>Floor wax
I seriously hope you mean The Product Formerly Known as Future.
Right was washed with Nuln Oil, Left I used Guilliman Blue
Not sure which I like
>>43455475
Do you know of any other floor products commonly used for airbrushing or miniatures?
>>43455555
Right looks better IMO. Left for GW style, right for FW style. Do you want noblebright heroes or grimdark warriors?
>>43455599
In the US? No. I wouldn't put it past an Anon to use something wax based as a thinner, though.
>>43455621
>okay guys I couldn't find any floor wax but when I went to buy automotive primer the car store was selling car wax, that should work right?
>the only problem is it's solid, so how do I scoop the wax into the airbrush?
>>43455621
I think Pledge/Future is available in the UK too. I've heard of those guys using it but they might have imported it.
Interestingly enough I tried Googling pledge floor wax and it yields results for the acrylic gloss product we're talking about.
hey guys I was thinking of making some female knights by putting wargames factory female survivor heads (the ones that look the best for "most pre modern eras") and putting them on some perry or fire forge knights. Are the sizes about right for that?
>>43455555
I can't even tell you washed the left.
Right is the clear winner.
>>43455665
Nah, they've got it under the same name now; used to be called Klear over there.
http://www.swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html
dumb question time:
Can I thin down a Citadel Base and use it as a Layer?
What about a Dry to a Base?
>>43456203
>Can I thin down a Citadel Base and use it as a Layer?
Yes.
>What about a Dry to a Base?
Maybe.
>>43456333
thank you Anon.
>>43454850
I picked up an basically NIB Badger 200 for 15 bucks at an auction. Don't discount auctions and garage sales if you're looking to pick up reasonable equipment and supplies for cheap.
>tfw there's always one retard to ruin the bunch
>>43456825
Preliminary line work done. Still need to add color and do cleanup.
>>43457350
whops forgot a foot. And obviously some black will need to be added in places and cleanup done.
Started painting up my sternguard recently. Just needs a bit more work on the flamer. Deathwatch theme going on at the moment.
>>43456825
>>43456943
The Astartes Riverdance event was going well until Craig got excited, fell out of step, and starting shooting the judges.
>>43457497
Unshaven Captain Picard has had enough of your bullshit.
Salamander guy from previous thread.
Finished him up last night. The flames were the most fun part, the eye was a bitch, first time painting a Space Marine.
Very open to C&C, especially on the black, not sure if I should use a lighter highlight, it's very hard to see even in real life unless you look closely.
>>43457607
Beautiful!
The black looks very good. Might just be your lighting and photography, granted. But it looks right. Maybe add some highlighting to the scope, tabard - and the bolts on the upper backpack.
Friendly reminder to keep at people!
https://wwwyoutube.com/watch?v=U3FnbC7y-Gc
About to get my very first space marines ever. I have never painted anything either. I need some advice on how to paint them.
>>43457607
had the same problem with highlighting black.
then i figured it out; don't use eshin grey, use dawnstone.
Airbrush people
Are one of those airbrush cleaning kit things required? Its like a little glass pot, with a holder thing, and a filter
>>43459001
No, it just makes it easier to catch all the shit you're spraying out when cleaning the brush. You can just spray a blank sheet of paper to clean your airbrush. It's going to make the exact same mess as you normally make when airbrushing.
>>43458949
Good idea, I will give it a shot. Thanks man
>>43458927
Watch Duncan on youtube.
>>43459011
Sweet saved me $20.
Still not sure about the chinese knock off brushes. They're about 5x cheaper, surely not 5x as bad in quality?
As a complete newbie to airbrushing but a medium to advanced brush painter - will a chinese brush do?
>>43451542
It's nice anon, my only comment is that for me that left arm really needs a Pauldron of some kind.
>>43452703
Roll a "gets hot" result, melts entire army.
>>43459064
Buy some good brush soap and you should be fine.
I use the rinky dinkiest pieces of shit I can find, but I religiously wash them after every session and I've had dollar store brushes last almost a year thanks to it. Michaela and other craft stores usually carry some. Tell them you need soap to wash off paint brushes used with acrylic paint and they'll know what you're talking about
>>43459118
we're talking about air brushes here right?
>>43452767
Personal taste; i wanted a massive cannon.
>>43459093
+6 on the catastrophic damage table
The mask looks too low but its just the camera angle
>>43459118
>>43459064
Also, the other question I have, is the airbrush I'm looking at has a 7ml cup on it, which is pretty fucking big for the tiny details I'll be painting.
is that going to be a problem? because I've seen some brushes with smaller cups
>>43458927
Start with one model and get an idea for how things work, ideally some grunt that won't be getting a lot of attention when people look at your army.
>prime a good color for your army (look up advice for what to use based on your main color. For example, yellow often goes over a brown base)
>apply basic base colors in a nice thinned method. Ideally 2-3 coats. It's tedious on a single model but once you graduate to painting a squad at a time its not bad at all. General rule is one drop water to one drop paint.
>apply layers over base, ideally one shade lighter and avoiding cracks or other areas of shadow. Alternatively, you can use washes for this effect
>highlight with an even lighter shade, drybrush or actual highlights
>clean up areas where wash spilled over
>do final details
>?????
>profit
>>43459157
Ill try my hand at it when i finally get em. I might post some pics
>>43458927
start with this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfToNrfoDh4
so you won't get pointed out you forgot to clean up mouldlines/prime/anything. Next part is about paiting SM.
also, here:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/drb4mezm6792i/not_citadel_nothing_to_see_here
you have great tutorials how to paint SM (and many other armies)
>>43459149
The cups can be swapped out. Having a too big cup doesn't really matter. You never fill the cup very much regardless of your cup size anyway. Needle size and PSI are what affect detail spraying.
>>43454839
here the neo can be bought for around 80-90 while eclipse is priced around 180+
>>43455001
Actually any alcohol based thinner dries faster than water. Only retarders don't (hence the name).
>>43455209
Your bases look strange somehow, but besides that, a nice horde.
>>43459255
>cheap eclipse
>cheap
You can get them new for less than 150 online. Even before the discount for one site that has it at $143 it's only $170.
$90 for a Neo, or $100-150 for an Eclipse? It's an easy choice. Don't waste $90 on a Neo unless it's the brush you're going to use it forever or you plan on having more than one airbrush and wouldn't mind having a Neo lying around when you buy a superior brush later on.
>>43455555
Why don't you drill the bolter before painting?
>>43455616
Well said sir.
>>43459273
The post you're quoting doesn't even mention alcohol? And says retardants dry slower than water? You realize there are a billion NON alcohol thinners right? Thinner doesn't even come close to automatically meaning alcohol.
Vraks Renegade Autocannon teams done. Have so very many left to go, but converting these guys has been a blast so far.
>>43459360
and thanks to the pic i just noticed the horrendous mould line and paint splatter. time to fix those
>>43459360
painting looks neat, holy fuck them moldlines anon
>>43459372
>>43459360
and quick fixed on the bad one
>>43459360
Duuuuude.
At least clean the big fucking mold line on top of the cannon.
>>43451816
>Being this mad about your basic-ass Bondage Fairy miniatures
>>43459360
i'd put some masking netfor sure it helps to hide this fukken big canon anywhereon it to hide mouldlines
Finally finished my bretonnian lord, thoughts?
>>43459734
Spooky.
>>43459559
It bothers me that people can't just say
>yeah I like it because of the T&A? so what?
and instead have to go through some seriously circular logic to try to justify it to themselves
That being saidI was surprised how much I actually enjoyed the game independent of the models
>>43459765
other side
>>43454669
For example weapon glow effects come out super smooth. Yes it is fast but it lacks the more detailed, segmented relfection effect. It's usually easy to tell brushwork minis from airbrush minis by how much detailing and lines it has on it. There of course pro studios who take the time to do detailed brush work over the airbrushed base, which is how it should be. Many airbrushers use it to get things done quickly and then get upset when people aren't excited about their work.
>>43455052
Lel using mediums is 100000 times easier than water, git gud. Why bother with a gazillion layers of water thinning when 2 coats of medium thinned get better results faster.
>>43455330
Yes water based acrylics are water soluble hurr durr, mediums are just much better
>>43455555
nuln but with brighter highlights
>>43452703
ah, the fabled S: D melee attack.
What's the recommended beginner book? There's like 100 GB of videos and PDFs in the OP post
my normal download bandwidth is too shaped for that sort of thing.
>>43459826
Needs orange highlights on the reds
>>43459893
Begin with some audio books to get into the setting, the rules are not that interesting
>>43459826
Well it's turning out awesome.
>>43454705
I'm convinced you're actually retarded. Every time you post your shitty paint jobs you get your stupid face in the image and distort the details of the model. What don't you understand?
>>43459360
>Trigger Warning: Mouldlines
>>43459894
>highlighting reds with orange and not light red/pink
Why do the basic rules for highlighting go out the window when people paint red?
>>43459899
sorry I mean for actually learning to paint I should have specified
>>43459952
I'd recommend getting the hot lead video set. You can find it on the internet for free. Other than that you can watch the some of the games workshop stuff on youtube.
For beginners, prime your miniature with grey, white, or colored spray primer. Krylon/tamiya/army painter are good choices. Don't use black, it's a pain to work with.
You need to focus on 3 things:
1. Paint consistency. Thin your paint a bit (water works), so that it spreads evenly and doesn't leave brush strokes, but not so thin that you can't control where it goes. You should aim for 2-3 layers of a color for a smooth coat, though depending on the background color you might need more layers in some cases.
2. Brush control. AKA only get the paint where you want it to go. Only load a small amount of paint onto the brush, and draw a line with it on paper to ensure you don't have too much paint on the bristles before applying the paint to the miniature.
3. Patience. To get good looking results you need time. Fix your mistakes if you make them, don't be afraid to paint an area a couple times if it doesn't turn out okay. If you're using thin paints you can apply a lot of layers without clogging up the details.
Oh, and don't touch drying paint. Ever.
>>43460013
Why the no drying paint? Just out of curiosity.
>>43459947
Pink just looks like shit in most cases, orange is just easier and it looks great
>>43460121
fingerprints
>>43460121
^ that and disturbing the paint may cause a skin to tear off, which will be EXTREMELY visible (even though it may look dry on the surface, just give it a lil time)
>>43454705
>>43454719
>>43460140
in addition to that, skin grease which leads to unintended chipping. Now that I think about it, I wonder how well olive oil chipping would work
What do you guys use to stop metal mini's from chipping? Just a matte varnish or something? If so what brands are good?
>>43460185
Glosscoat x2 -> matte varnish.
Once it starts being glossy apply a new matte coat. That said, you can't prevent all chipping you just have to fix it.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Warhammer-40k-Space-Marine-Army-Lot-1/171976864098?_trksid=p2060778.c100275.m3474&_trkparms=aid%3D333008%26algo%3DRIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140723144412%26meid%3D75793c39e49e48b9acb6fca78ad7373f%26pid%3D100275%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D161870897518
guys I can't resist.....do you think I should buy for 200? ',:)
>>43460234
Bunch of current scouts, rest is mostly rogue traded with a few metal models in there
>>43460234
Only if you don't strip them. Those are some quality pro painted models.
Britbong here.
I have never, ever treated my miniatures after painting with varnish or anything. I'm always afraid it will ruin my hard work by being cloudy or sticky etc.
Where do I start? Nothing really detailed in the OP
>>43454669
Not the Anon you're replying to, but I feel the need to reply, because I sincerely don't believe it's about being elitist or some hipster bullshit.
There is a feeling to gradients, and airbrush gradients have this perfect quality that makes it stand out and somehow look fake, you know?
It's like pinups in magazines looking so damn perfect. Apparently it's a very popular style? But that's what it is : a style. And personally I don't like it. It looks dead, boring, mass-produced.
It's perfection in a can, but it lacks emotion.
As a tool, the airbrush is just that : another tool in your belt, something to use to achieve an effect. No problem with that!
But it seems to foster a style, which few painters will then escape to create their _own_ style.
Not sure if that makes sense?
>>43460404
I know I love the blue with bright yellow dots... I think it brings out the rage in the marine's eyes
>>43454705
>>43454719
Ye gods, he's back!
Come on, Anon.
I'm sure it's still funny to catch a few people who haven't seen your glorious work before, but you gonna up your game, man!
A real teenage girl would somehow manage to show some cleavage or something, at this point.
>>43460462
I've heard 2 gloss + 1 matte, but I'm out of matte at the moment.
>>43460462
Test your stuff on expendable stuff first, slap some paint on a piece of sprue and see how it turns out.
>>43460462
Don't slather it on. I use a large drybrush to get a smooth, even but thin coat
>>43455665
Couldn't you guys just tell us the active ingredient in that shit? That would be a lot more useful and avoid endless discussions about local names...
For instance, do the terms "anionic surface agents", or "surfactants" mean anything to you?
Coz that sounds a lot more useful to know than hearing how you use a floor wax to thin paint.
(I'm genuinely curious, btw)
>>43457607
The green and gold have a wonderful harmony, I really like them.
The black is a bit flat, yeah, but I'm not sure it's a bad thing that the highlights are subtle, because your blending skills seem a bit poor, desu.
That edge highlighting on the green parts ... could be better. I love the colour choice, but I think a bit more blending would have really made this mini stand out.
I'm not sure if it's the photo lighting or your execution, but for example, the blending on the back of the feet is spot on. If you'd done that all over, it would be glorious.
Also the black was on the laurels is not a very nice idea.
>>43459826
It's great to see the work done over several threads. But I just can't shake the feeling I've seen this face somewhere before...
>>43460920
dat filename
>>43454705
Ohhh nice, post that in focus, I think I'm liking the cobra commander paint scheme
>>43455555
Since it's metal I like the nulan oil, on cloth I think the color washes look better
>>43457607
Beautiful work
>>43459826
I'd just like to echo everyone else saying that it's been a real pleasure watching that mini come together over the past several threads.
>>43451816
You know, Catholics are way more chill with sexuality than nearly all the other christian cults.
>>43460846
Thanks for the input, I need to work on my highlighting quite a bit if I want to collect Spess Muhreens. I actually think I need to start using more water in the paint for the highlights to gradually add on the colour, it's been hot as balls lately where I live and the paint seems to dry reeeally fast on the brush.
Is there any sort of technique for blending that is good to practice?
So, i finished assembling and priming my Kroot Pathfinder squad leader, looks pretty good with the Fire Warrior Kroot. Now to get on with my Breachers. So much to do. What do yall think?
>>43461687
catholics be weird man
they fucking love charles darwin despite that darwinis english
>>43461940
I think you should take better fotos
>>43462057
Yeah, if i had more than this shitty phone and clamp light i would.
>>43452703
Wow. I actually wrote to forge world asking about this they naturally replied with nothing about my request but still thank me for sending it in.
I'm glad to see someone else had a similar idea.
Is $150 a good deal for
3 apparently interchangeable leman Russ
1 converted Hydra
1 Manticore
1 Basilisk
3 Bolt Action tank Chimeras
I'd need to strip and repainted which isn't difficult with tanks
>>43455269
I hope you reply to this swenson. I've been thinking of making an actual 40K version of this.
Like turning the weapons into 40k stuff so it looks better because it kinda matches already.
>>43462080
use sunlight, literally free light
>>43459289
Color coded and I'm putting washers on them to stick to magnetic sheets for storage.
>>43462080
It would help if the background was not cluttered with other models.
Also I'm assuming you're using a high ISO, from all that noise. Lower that.
>>43455555
You know what Duncan would say, the right is the winner.
>>43459791
wait, wait, just wait desu sempai.
>Anons searching out kd:m in threads to bash the t&a, might even be the same person judging by timestamps.
>"Oh man I'm just here to tell you that the best models ever mass produced are fap bait and grognard tier!"
>But while I WTFhate the models and can't stand anyone saying they like the models just for the fact they're detailed and so beautiful it makes eyes bleed, the game is pretty ok.
I can't help but think of the "Lolol I'm not really retarded, I was just kidding!" comic.
How I read all the kd:m hate posts:
1) I can't afford it, so I'm going to smash on it and ignore everything but the same points feminazis brought up when they first saw the game out of a supreme sense of bitterness.
2) I'm a literal child who thinks that 90% of the people buying, even the pinups, will fap to them, and omg NERDS! I'm only on this forum to shame NERDS! I'm not here as a NERD myself LOL.
3) I've got some serious issues with people's private interests when they conflict with the MSM's portrayal of sexuality, and get uncomfortable faced with so many objectified bodies, and doubly uncomfortable when confronted by horror monsters playing directly off sexuality.
4) I've only got issue with people claiming they don't think there's t&a in the game! I'm just a crusader for literal autism. Have you read my thesis on the GW business model and seen my dark eldar collection? God forbid you actually look closely at those horrible cast miniatures and see the barely concealed t&a and rape culture!
I mean shit. I don't like the wet nurse or gorm, but that's due to me thinking the models aren't on par with all the rest.
Have you seen shit like the hand and the butcher? It's creepy as fuck having hands peeking out of the pheonix's anus, but it's a fucking horror game. It's refreshing to have a game with such detail and then use that detail to actually convey a sense of discomfort.
>>43457607
Looks great! The pose makes it look like he is making a wish after he caught a firefly.
"I WISH TO BURN MORE ENEMIES OF THE EMPEROR."
>>43461687
Well yeah, they like diddling halflings a lot. Bunch of degenerates
>>43459765
Bill Maher?
>>43462405
Yeah yeah yeah keep your fetishes to yourself and out of WIP please.
>>43462405
>rape culture
pls take political whining to /pol/, this is a thread for posting pictures of and talking about WIP models.
>>43457607
It's glorious
>>43462465
>>43462469
>pls leave waaaa! fetishes! sex! omg!
>no pictures in WIP thread.
>dark eldar don't have rape culture! you're from pol aren't you!
>please post more pictures
>no pictures in WIP thread again.
Meanwhile... Have some more images. They might not be WIP but I hope by letting anons out there know I'd love to see what they've done with the KD:M models they might post them.
Have another hand.
>>43462569
Nigger, I've been on 4chan for a decade and half that time was spent on /b/. Chainsaw rape, shitting dicknipples, people cutting off and eating their own balls, I don't give a fuck, it doesn't even phaze me. I just really want you to take your selfrighteous sperging and shove it right up your puckered asshole, you're ruining the thread with your feminism bullshit.
>>43462569
Meant to be pictures of WIP models that you're working on yourself, this has been a very angry thread.
Tons of arguments, usually they're quite chill.
>>43462638
Because autismo over there won't shut about his fap fap fap waifu models he probably doesn't even own in the first place. He's been consistently shitposting since yesterday about it. Porn games attract that kind of crowd I guess. Make your own KD Q&A thread I say.
I just got my hands on Liquitex matte medium and flow aid. Help, how do I actually use them?
I got sold into the idea of doing many thin layers to builds highlights, how exactly do those two products play into that?
Anyone know where a good starting point for making space marine armor would be?
Maybe better a Primarch armor?
>>43462744
Well, think of a Gimp2/Photoshop opaque slider. The more medium you add to the paint, the more see through it becomes. This takes some getting used to because at first you'll be all like "woah, isn't this too much paint on one part" and then you're all "fuck, it's still too transparent".
Flow improver does as the name implies, it improves the flow of the paint, allowing you to put down nice evenly distributed layers of paint even on uneven surfaces.
>>43462751
What do you mean by 'making space marine armor'? Can you describe what you want to do with it a bit more?
>>43462569
Meanwhile in the Kingdom Death general
>>43389603
>>43390824
>>43392191
>>43392214
>>43462199
Like what do you mean? Are you thinking of using skaven to do dark eldar haemonculus like I am?
>>43462744
Liquitex flow aid is diluted 1 part flow-aid to 10-20 parts water. Matte medium allows you to increase the transparency of paint without really affecting the viscosity.
You mix paint and medium until you get the transparency you want, then just treat that mix as your paint and dilute it with the flow aid mix to desired consistency.My goddamn middle click just broke.
>>43463089
>without really affecting the viscosity
This really depends on the thickness of the paint though. I occasionally throw a bit of medium in my GW pots to keep them alive, but if I'm not careful enough they turn runny.
It's about the same consistency as most dropper bottle paints I think.
help? I've officially reached Model Overload... Where should I start? This is every mechanicus related unit in my collection. From right to left... Cult Mechanicus, Imperial Knights (in service to the mechanicus), Skitarii, Flesh Tearer's Detachment (for transports), 30k Taghmata, and Mechanicus themed Astra Militarum.
>>43463340
Something nice and quick to get you started, like a droppod or two.
>>43454696
Looking good!
>>43463364
ok, I think I can handle that. Should I make sure that all units match the same theme of my forge world?
>>43462939
>>43462672
>>43462638
>>43462606
Standby.
>I want to see WIPs of models I see people hating on for crazy reasons.
>Hoping my support will encourage people to share model WIPs on KD:M, since if I had models in progress, and saw all you hardcore faggots raging about this shit I wouldn't post shit for you.
>Meanwhile you all respond to my posts without images, implying you're here to look at models too, but for some reason you don't want to see KD:M models. That really begs the question why you're so fucking against encouraging people to post them, and so fixated on discouraging them.
>The easy and logical answer is that you're just a jealous poorfag who spent all your dosh on GW putty-men with quality direct from the 90s, and your reading comprehension is fresh from Detroit.
But hey, don't let me stop you from being cancer. I notice now that you can't make the "ermahgod just admit they're t&a" argument you're just plain shitposting. Good to know. Now shut up and let me encourage KD:M owners to post WIPs you unrepentant assholes.
Here's a picture that qualifies as WIP.
>ERMAHGOD TITS REEEEEE
>>43463395
Dude, you're just being a shithead.
Fuck off to the KD general if you want to go on about it, this is a WIP thread. I genuinely don't care about the t&a argument or any of the other bullshit spouted in this thread, you're just shitting it up for everybody.
>>43463147
That's why I threw the really in there. You do have to experiment with your medium + paint combo to see how it behaves, but that's nothing new.
>>43463340
Is...that a Dread Knight converted into a Mechanicus mech of some sort, the one next to the drop pods in the back?
>>43463395
>I want to see WIPs of models I see people hating on for crazy reasons.
Then buy them and start posting them.
>>Hoping my support will encourage people to share model WIPs on KD:M, since if I had models in progress, and saw all you hardcore faggots raging about this shit I wouldn't post shit for you.
Well, that's just you isn't it. Not many people were 'raging hard' about it anyway, just the couple of guys who started it and you, who have now spent the whole thread bitching and whining at each other.
>>Meanwhile you all respond to my posts without images, implying you're here to look at models too, but for some reason you don't want to see KD:M models. That really begs the question why you're so fucking against encouraging people to post them, and so fixated on discouraging them.
People are responding to your posts without images because they don't want to get this thread further towards the image limit, giving people with genuine WIPs the chance to post them. If I just wanted to look at models, I'd go on google images.
>>The easy and logical answer is that you're just a jealous poorfag who spent all your dosh on GW putty-men with quality direct from the 90s, and your reading comprehension is fresh from Detroit.
And now you're just straight up trolling. I don't play any GW games and get most of my miniatures from Warlord and various small manufacturers. I have nothing against KD models being posted in a WIP thread, provided that:
a) they're actually WIP and the poster wants constructive criticism
b) they're not accompanied with paragraphs of raging bitter vile spewed at anyone who doesn't like KD
tl;dr fuck off and stop shitting up the thread
Hey guys, decided to try and convert up some Tanith. Always liked their backstory and history.
This is a test model I did, so it's pretty poor, but I hope it gives enough of an impression for some feedback on the cloak, colour scheme and flesh. I made the cloak from a baby wipe, which I dyed with ink, then dipped into watered down PVA. I really like the realistic fabric look, and it's much cheaper and easier than greenstuffing cloaks for an entire army.
Excuse shitty lighting.
>>43463511
yeah. it was my thanatar before I had a thanatar.
Has anyone successfully used vallejo's poly primer, in grey or white, using a brush?
I can't tell if my bottle of grey is pure shit, or if it is not good for brushing. In contrast, I've been using the black version for months and it's glorious. Grey though, is a streaky mess with shit coverage.
>>43459077
Yeah I didn't know if they covered their bionics or not, because I see alot of exposed leg bionics and arm bionics. But if you think it would look better, I'll try adding one
>>43463340
Everything begins and ends with infantry.
finish a squad of skitarii
>>43463524
Stop posting. You really need to just stop. Stop now.
Ops picture is off Google. Never seen a WIP thread hit image limit either. Look around. How many posts have I made? Four now, with plenty of text, sure, but fuck you if your samefagging isn't creating more clutter. So just stop. Show me you're not a complete shitlord. I'm done posting. If you can't scroll up and see something wrong with those shit posts I've responded to, then enjoy your WIP thread. Googling up blogs is better, you're right. This thread should just die by your logic. Nice!
>>43463578
Why are his hands and eyes bleeding?
Move the camera tiny bit back and make sure its focused.
Some grey paint is on the stock of the gun as well.
>>43454145
>>43454282
Wow. This thread reached maximal sodium levels. Are all of you people involved literally socially crippled retards?
>>43463835
Yeah, the painting got all messy when I drybrushed the cloak and I couldn't be bothered to do the skin properly. Mainly trying to see if the cloak looks alright, I wasn't sure if baby wipes would work.
>>43463656
Requires shaking but it's all I use
>>43463395
Cry more bitch nigger, go to the KD general already
Bunch of T4 onehit wonders coming up
>>43463395
>not a T&A game
>post T&A model
Master troll
>>43464219
CAAAAANDY
Are those raveners? I have a bunch of metal ones for scenery and diorama purposes but I always hear they're horrible.
>>43464193
Is this the neckbeard version of niggers flashing hundreds. Cause you're not impressive.
>>43464292
>get called a poorfag
>prove I have impeccable taste
>b-b-b-but
BTFO
>>43464326
>>43464292
Holy shit, please stop. You are getting really cringey. Both of you.
>>43464267
Evening dude.
Raveners indeed and i know they are pretty bad but
i really really wanted raveners for like 15 years and happened to need something to paint.
Im sure they will be fun in friendly games though.
