Endless Bait edition
>Rules databases
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
>FAQ’s and Errata (outdated but official)
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Rules-Errata
>40k 7th edition quick reference sheet(s).
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef.pdf
>Forgeworld Book index
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index
> The Black Library(Stay the fuck away from the clowns)
https://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q!c4pGAJDb
> Space 0Din's glorious work
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lsx27fo3rq2x7tk/Codex%20-%20Orks%207th%20Edition%20Update%20[Space%20Odin](2016).pdf?dl=0
This thread is where the line shall be held! For the Emporer!
An idea to change how turns work to make 40k games more realistic and more active:
>each unit gets for actions that it can spread out any way it wants between movement, psychic, shooting, and assault
>at the start of the turn, player 1 picks a unit and takes one action
>player 2 picks a unit and takes one action
>so on and so forth until all units on the board have been moved, at which point the turn ends
>psychic phase only generates warp charges once per turn
>the player with more mastery levels rolls the D6
>independent characters must spend an action point to leave a unit and can then use their next action point to do whatever they want
What other sort of rules interactions would need to be cleared up?
Does anybody have chapter master version before lawers fucked up everything?
Any of you lads use any 40k related smartphone/tablet apps? Like for list-building or remembering special rules etc? Or just fun shit.
>>48195078
Battlescribe is the obvious one for list building
IA13 finally arrived from the UK.
Is there anything else I'm missing for full dedication to the Ruinous Powers?
>>48195106
A craft knife with which you can carve the eight pointed star of Chaos into your forehead.
Also, I hope you have lots of spare bitz to build rapier batteries with
Shilling for the discord again guys
https://discord.gg/FpVfNKp
After looking at the list of basically all grots oast thread, I was inspired to fine tune it a bit, to make it even better, so behold THE GROT TIDE:
Combined Arms Detachment 1:
HQ (200 points):
Big Mek (115pts) Cybork Body, Mega Force Field
Big Mek (85pts) Kustom Force Field
Troops (345 points):
3 units of Gretchin (115pts): 30x Gretchin, 3x Runtherd
Combined Arms Detachment 2:
HQ (190 points):
2x Big Mek (85pts) Kustom Force Field
Troops (230 points):
2 units of Gretchin (115pts): 30x Gretchin, 3x Runtherd
Lord of War (735 points):
Kustom Stompa (735pts) Big Shoota 2x Bursta Kannon, Deth Arsenal, Gaze of Mork, Power Field
Unbound Army (190 points):
2x Big Mek (85pts) Kustom Force Field
1850 points total
The strategy is simple: 150 grots. Use the 5 regular big meks with kustom force field to provide them with a 5++, making them a bit more resilient. Put the big mek with the mega force field in the stompa to give the stompa a 4+ invul save.
Use the Kustom stompa to take out anything big, grots overwhelm the enemy.
Now, I'll admit I'm not an ork player, so I'm not sure if that's the best load out for the stompa, but 2 D guns, one gun that has a 2/11 chance to be D, 3D6 S9 ap3 shots as well as d3 s8 AP3 5“ blast each turn seems pretty good to me.
Anyone got The Beast Must Die spoilers yetBesides the obvious The Beast Doesn't Die
>>48195078
There's an app for android called 40k rules. I use it occasionally to check special rules. Battlescribe is good too,
>>48195656
>Kustom Stompa (735pts) Big Shoota 2x Bursta Kannon, Deth Arsenal, Gaze of Mork, Power Field
Is the Gaze of Mork really worth it?
Reposting since thread died soon after I asked:
Ideas for converting my Triarch stalker before I get the glue out?
>>48194424
That guardsman is holding an eight pointed star.
Posted at the end of the last thread, but it got archived after:
Haven't played since 5e. Looking to start over with some kind of Chaos Space Marine force. What can I expect, and what do you recommend?
>>48195573
I would join but I can't be bothered changing my avatar to something that won't cause rage so you guys have fun without me.
>>48195796
>something that won't cause rage
What is your avatar at the moment?
I can almost promise noone will probably give a single fuck unless it's cp
>>48195746
It's a chance to get more D.
My thought was that one would use the stompa by just having it sit in the back firing off it's 2 7" blast d weapons. Nothing else really seemed to
Synergize with the stompas role of providing a good number of high strength relatively long ranged fire power, so as to make up for the grots in ability to take on tougher units
>>48195886
furshit
HE BOUGHT TO MANY KITS
Now I gotta paint them all
So all aboard the GW train
Choo choo
>>48195573
>Fucking brony skype
>>48195975
>brony skype
lolwut?
>>48195940
disgusting
>>48195956
People still watch that flabby douche and his yes man Jews channel?
Alright, so are ork walkers worth getting? I like how they look and an orky dreadnought army seems like a lot of fun.
>>48195771
Shh!he's an alpha legion sleeper agent, don't blow his cover!
GIVE ME MY FUCKING DROP PODS RIGHT NOW GW YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS
>>48196023
Discord is basically just Skype text chat, but even less user friendly and almost entirely populated by bronies.
>>48195789
/tg/ will recommend you choose an other army since their rules are old and in the lowest tier of armies atm. Deamon are in a better position so it's a start
Personally i'd say go with what looks cool to you.you can always come back later and complain about the shit balance of 7Ed and cry about eldar/Tau/SM
>>48196100
Butthurt WarConvo waacfag detected.
>>48196100
Never ever dumb frog poster
>>48196146
>WarConvo waacfag
You're retarded. The only person who frogposts about droppods is Chaos Lord Al'Kaps
>>48196146
More like a CSM player stuck with 100 point dreadclaws.
>>48196146
Nah, he's chaos lord al'kaps.
He comes around every once and a while, acting like a dumb frog poster does, and shitting up the thread with his bitching, as if spamming a thread on a cambodian rat cooking forum will change amything, besides convincing people that CSM players just like to bitch.
>>48196195
Oh wait, 260 pts.
>>48196119
>Discord is basically just Skype text chat
Except no it's not?
It's basically TS but way more user friendly?
>>48196195
THEY COULD AT LEAST MAKE THE FUCKING DREADCLAWS OUT OF PLASTIC AND NOT CHARGE $70 USD FOR THEM
AND PUT IT IN THE RULEBOOK
FUCKING CHRIST I HATE GW
>>48196238
more like $110 after taxes and shipping. you can always convert one out of a drop pod but then you might end up triggering your local sperghammer community.
Dreadclaws aren't even that bad though, a local chaos player uses them to great effect with all sorts of payload
>>48196238
Honestly if a chaos player wanted to take drop pods against me I'd just let them.
Looking for inquisition zealot models, any indications?
>>48196320
I'd kinda like a "webway portal" piece of wargear that allows an IC and his unit to deep strike
>>48196353
Would be an interesting formation actually. Bunch of troops led by a sorcerer +1 optional HQ, all get deep strike and start in reserve, can start rolling deepstrike reserves turn 1.
Asked this in another thread but didnt get an answer. Can an eradication beamer fire snap shots? Within 9' It doesnt have the blast rule.
>>48196469
>Can an eradication beamer fire snap shots?
only if its firing at something within 9 inches
>>48196469
Yeah, within 9" it's heavy 1 so it can snap shoot, but in the case of overwatch, only if the charge began within 9"
>>48196488
>>48196537
Thanks for the help
>>48195106
Do you have the Renegades of Vraks list from IA V? There's some good stuff for renegade guard in there.
>>48196351
Use WHFB Flagellants.
>>48196648
i don't think it can work, i mean, it would need a hell of a lot garaje work to convert it into stormbolter/bolter wielding zealots, even more if using carapace or power armor
>>48196845
Well, next time maybe lead with what you're after?
>>48196845
I plan on using Anvil Industry's regiments range for my acolytes. The firestorm carbine makes a great storm bolter but I'll probably get heads elsewhere.
How do you field your scouts?
I'm considering 5 Blood Angels scouts with camo cloaks but I'm not sure if I want bolters, shotguns, or bolt pistol and close combat weapon.
>>48196238
Nah, lets just make a plastic version of the HH one and give it to loyalists.
>>48196925
This >>48196845 is not me anon. And yeah, i should have specified more about the models but i'm not sure about what i will field, i think i will just use anything i can find as my army is only for friendly games.
>>48196933
that looks really good anon, thanks
>>48196648
Yeah, thats a good base for conversion, but, i don't know if AM parts such as arms and guns would fit in it, do u have any idea if it would?
People who start threads in a Work in Progress sub forum without pictures need to be culled. The Bolter & Chainsword is notorious for this.
>>48196146
You're retarted
>>48196238
>AND PUT IT IN THE RULEBOOK
Don't be silly, that would require updating the CSM...
>>48196939
I play DA and like a unit of 10 with bolters outflanking. Most of them usually survive the game and put out a fair bit of dakka that can't really be focused down without taking firepower away from my scary units like DW&Black knights. Great for mid table objective grabbing.
With BA getting furious charge and +1 initiative right there I'd suggest a similar tactic, but with pistols & maybe a couple of shotguns to a unit, you're sending up a fairly cheap unit assault unit that either takes the heat off death company or other meatier assault units and forces the opposing player to make decisions.
>>48196299
The 100 pts means they are really expensive if you just want to deep strike a unit. Daemonic Possession means that you can loose your 260 pt Contemptor even before the damn thing deep strikes and on top, it lacks guidance systems. Sure it can hover and shit, but what if I just want a drop pod so I can deep strike a unitwhich I do?
>>48197133
I'm leaning toward a unit of five with camo cloaks, two shotguns, and three close combat weapons for 65 points.
>>48196939
I would say shotguns or CCWs. Bangels are a charging army, don't bother with that tactical shit, just throw as much as you can into assault to try and get that critical mass. Blood Angels get Furious Charge in exchange for vanilla toys so you might as well capitalize on that.
>>48197076
Now I want to model an Inquisitor Trump with gold armor and =I='s filed to capital T's.
>>48197244
do it
>>48197188
That sounds like what I'd go for, except you could maybe even skimp on the cloaks depending on how dense your terrain set up is.
I need some help building up my SM army. Currently I have:
1 Typhoon Land Speeder
1 Commander
2 Tactical squads
3 or 4 Terminators (Lighting claws and 2 Whirlwind. I know I have one with a sword and a dark angels at one point)
1 Razorback. It is pretty fucked up so I am planning on snagging a second razorback/rhino and making some replacement parts for mine.
Assuming I want a 1500 point Army, what would you recommend I throw into the mix? I have a buddy with some trashed models I can probably pick up cheap.
>>48197326
For which chapter?
>>48197188
Why the shotguns.
You want them in Combat. Why gimp yourself the attacks.
>>48197326
what is the tactical squads carrying? give us the kits and ups for everything
>>48197383
Not a fucking clue. Last time I played was 5th ED. For hilarity reasons I was going to paint them as Angry marines. So I guess Imperial fists are closest color wise.
>>48197410
1 Flamer and 1 rocket per squad. I also have 2 tac marines with Melta and Plasma rifle (old metal models).
Honestly my army is currently in bits and sitting in a tub of purple shit getting stripped. So the skies the limit. I could probably even refit some of them with bits bought on ebay. But I am trying to save as much cash as possible (I would prefer to play Imperial guard but dont want to sell my kidney).
I know my buddy will sell me some shit cheap. So I can shore up the number of marines easily, but the mechanized stuff will be the big cost.
>>48197471
drop pod and some more marines sounds good. you will also need more terminators if to field them as a full squad.
Devastators are good.
Gimme your 40k unpopular opinions.
>fandexes dont fix anything
>if you're playing this game competitively you're doing it wrong
>>48197625
I actually think 40k models are pretty good quality, even if the designs are kind of silly.
>>48194424
>Boobplate
>>48197625
>Orks are more powerful then people give them credit for
>Sisters should be merged in to inquisition or removed from the game.
>>48197625
>Night Lords are cool
>All Tau players are faggots
>Build your list based on what models you like
>>48197670
I wonder how you people would react to fencing gear.
It's for the daily prove you actually play this game check. Post a pic of your games dudes.
>inb4 same 4 people who always post their games post
>>48197471
Went through my shit. I got 2 Whirlwind terminators and a Terminator with a lightning sword/Thunder Claw. (local gaming store only had metal individual models at the time).
I have 13 marines total. 2 Flamers, 2 rockets, Melta Gun, Plasma rifle and commander.
1 Razorback with choice of Bolter or lasgun
1 Typhoon Land Speeder.
Apparently I lost several models at some point because I had 2 Tac squads, 5 terminators and my commander + 2 extra marines. How 10 marines go missing is beyond me.
>>48197625
>Serious 40K is better than silly 40K
>Dark Eldar have the best models
>Sisters receive more attention than they deserve here and should be merged into a larger faction or taken out completely
>People should play for fun and for the fluff, not necessarily to win
>The Tau are alright and fit in with the 40K setting fine
>Tyranids are severely underused
>>48197684
>All Tau players are faggots
>unpopular
>Tfw can't beat guard as SM
>Tfw a massive failure.
>>48197752
I play using Tabletop Sim, I hope that counts.
>>48197752
Ive never taken a pic during a game. But I play once a month or so, and have posted pics here of several of my armies and dozens of projects/models.
>>48197685
Oh I didn't know fencing gear was thick layers of ceramic and steel on top of padding
>>48195656
Grot guy from last thread, nice list (for orks) but you misunderstand- the plan isn't use Grots, the plan IS Grots.
>>48197795
It's a sad fact but outside of their few OP units and formations a ton of space marine units are overwhelmingly lackluster.
Because we're top tier we can't expect any sympathy, it's a shame but oh well.
>>48196353
Because Eldar need more powerful gear?
>>48197854
How on earth do you intend to paint this shit?
>>48197881
Yeah, tacticals are worhtless since they can only be taken in groups of 10.
>>48197911
He's talking about giving Chaos an option somewhat similar to a webway portal, not Eldar.
>>48197927
Not even that.
Assault marines, terminators, vanilla dreadnoughts! All replaced by these new upstarts "centurions" and all bike armies, where are the classics?
>>48197956
Hiding from the overwelming amount of AP2 in the game right now.
Anyone want to rate my list? List Thread is kinda dead
>>48196095
How mad would you be if I didn't paint my Commissar in My Dudes colors?
Is there any way to make a demi company competitive at 1000pts?
So /tg/, I recently got a finished commission of a Tzeentch themed army by Den of Imagination. I got the finished product pictures earlier today.
This stuff is done at their lowest level of quality, but I'm pretty happy with it for an army that is made to be played with at tabletop standard. What does /tg/ think of these models?
http://www.denofimagination.com/gallery/577e056743434d0003050cc3/577e069343434d0003050cf4
>>48198042
I assume you mean if you painted your Commissar in Your Dudes colors?
Eh, honestly I wouldn't even care so long as it was tabletop standard. I'm sick of seeing greys.
>>48195106
Custom dice
>>48198063
No one gives a fuck. Why not brag to your friends.
Oh wait your actually post on /tg/ about it. So you have none. Sucks to suck
So how do i transport my Mini's /tg/?
>>48198063
>Fully Painted/10
>Would face on the regular
Even at its lowest standard it is a million times better than grey and therefore fantastic.
You could probably do your own washed on some of them and make them even better.
>>48198063
How much?
>>48198107
Fishing tackle boxes, if you're on a budget. Otherwise, those army carriers with foam. Not the GW ones though. Go for off brand
>>48197956
>terminators, vanilla dreadnoughts!
I see those and non-grav Devestators all the time and they kick my Tyranid ass...
>>48198063
shill somewhere else
>>48198124
thank you very much i got into the hobby completly not thinking about how i was going to store/mantain my minis.
>>48198147
Yeah but everything kicks Tyranid's ass right now.
>>48196040
Who is the flabby douche?
Money is on TBMC because that dude is fat as fuck
>>48198150
On an related note anybody know how to get dust off mins?
>>48198120
I got them done because I'm a sucker for fully painted armies, and I'm a dyspraxia-fag who can't paint them to a decent standard himself.
>>48198121
>See pic
>>48197915
Better question: How do I afford this shit? It'd be 1,605 dollars to buy from GW, meaning I could buy 10 Knights or a Titan instead of 463 Grots. (But why would you?)
>>48197811
It doesnt you broke fag. Get models or get the fuck out
>>48197944
Whoops, my mistake. CSM could actually use stuff like that, would fit into fluff well too for Warp Talons.
>>48198157
Especially those "lackluster" units that Vanilla has
>>48198309
What is going on in that retarded mind of his?
>>48198199
Dip them in water.
>>48198218
That's why I don't like major studios.
Those prices.
14$ per cultist of that quality?
Those are the one I got for 3€ each from an lone painter.
>>48198199
Get one of those soft makeup brushes
>>48198309
> Leman Russ with 14/14/14 50pts
>Gurdsmen lasguns are now AP3 because they're lasers
>Guardsmen are now BS5 and can replace their lasguns for 2pts each
>All guard vehicles now have 6 hullpoints
>The guard player at the beginning of the game rolls a dice, if the result is not a 1 the guard player wins the game.
>>48198236
>Giving GW your money
>Being limited to playing only people nearby
Can you use nova powers if you jink?
>>48195106
>Getting both BL and CS
>Don't get the R&H list
I'm genuinely confused as to why. Aren't all the BL formations subject to some "fuck you, you can only use these if your whole army is BL" rule?
>>48198218
Damn bro. I wouldve done it for half that. I only do commissions for people I know, but I hate to see anon pay those prices. Maybe I should get a website and start taking projects.
>>48198460
>>Giving GW your money
>Implying
>>48198460
Ignore the retard-poster. He's obv angry.
>>48198199
Canned air. Computer cleaner, dust-off, etc.
Protip: leave your models in the box until you're ready to assemble and paint.
>>48198410
I personally cant wait for every body to finally come to 7th Ed. but as the supposed 8th ed is coming i dont think anyone who already isnt here will. On a side note how long till BA get rekt by nids/chaos forces and have to become a chapter of only 100 marines running around the galaxy?
>>48198537
Using Tabletop Simulator is still the smarter choice for what I do. Which is mostly teaching my friends how to play the game over the internet. I'm sorry you have such a superiority complex because you either have more money or are less responsible with it.
>>48196933
These look pretty cool. Are they supposed to be 40k guys? It looks like they go with the Afterlife game, which I've never even heard of. Is that something you're actually supposed to play, or is it just legal cover for the models?
>>48198570
I only have the dust on my models ive already painted. They sit on my mantle all day and it makes me sad.
>>48198199
I use my tank brush.
>>48198460
>being a broken fag
>no job, no money, live in mom's basement
>will never get laid unless you pay for it
Your future anon
>>48198218
Are you fucking retarded?
>>48198610
... idea stolen.
Anon your a genius.
>>48198640
>Not being a GW cuck =/= permavirgin
Shoo GW Rep. You have no power here.
>>48198218
2k dollars just to paint minis?! WHAT THE FUCK!. Like learn how to fucking paint, thats half the damn hobby for fucks sake.
You could've learned a new skill AND get more minis instead.
>>48198586
Afterlife has its own model range. The Regiments stuff is for building generic sci-fi troopers which can be used in any game. They're clearly designed for 40k though.
>Cant wait to play with my own army
>still need 1 chimera, 1 wyvern, 2 infantry squads and a primaris
jfjdkjnkjncjndjv
>>48198218
>literally costs twice as much to paint the models as to buy them
Holy shit I'm starting a mini painting business.
>>48198218
>2 Grand for 89 minis.
Oh my.
>>48195106
Siege of Vraks, and the little pamphlet with Renegade Knight rules from the Renegade game.
>>48198218
>Spent 2 grand on someone else to paint your dudes
>not even their top level quality
Anon you screwed harder than a latino prostitute.
>>48197752
My Skitarii got their butts handed to them by a Khorne Daemonkin player with a knight. Poor deployment on my part.
Haven't played in 2 months, I moved to an area with no lgs.
>>48198063
>>48198218
You could have paid some kid from your LGS to do that and gotten the same quality in half the time for a third of the price
Hoping to pick up the Start Collecting Skitarii box soon. What's the best loadout for vanguard? I was thinking max arc rifles and a omnispex and phosphor pistol on the alpha. Is it worth giving him one of the field upgrades or a relic? Are any of the cult mechanicus relics decent?
>>48198088
where can I get those euphoric dice
Why can't I find a paperback copy of Ravenwing by Gav Thorpe in the US.
They are all $25+ but the rest of the trilogy is $15 ea.
What makes RW so special...
>>48198742
>>48198770
That's three grand, not two. Almost exactly 3000 when you count shipping them out.
>>48199211
that only makes it 1000 dollars more of a disappointment.
>>48199209
Isn't there an omnibus you could get for $25 that has all three....
>>48199211
>just so he could have the PLEASURE of playing CSM
Wew lad, at least he can use the space marine codex.
>>48198728
Neat, thanks for the info. If I played Imperial-something I'd probably buy some for Scion allies, as they look pretty good.
>>48199270
Looks like its Oct 16 2016 for that but I guess I have to hold out then.
Just picked up the Deathwing novel.
I still have a ton of books on my list for the Dark Angels.
First marine mini ever. Going for maximum grim dark (late 90's style, all gloom and depression), super super zealous angry black templars.
Any advice on how to be more grim, more faithful with the paint job?
>>48199337
looks good to me, atleast better than anything ive got painted.
>>48199061
Vanguard
Plasma calivers
Take the refractor field
For the alpha
Arc maul
Arc pistol
Pater radium
>>48199337
I guess you could do some battle damage to some of the minis. Cut the edges of a pauldron up, file them down a bit, and paint dirt and shit on it, for example. The problem with this is (as I learned when I was 15~) that if you combine dirt on part of the model with blood on another part it can look too busy. If you do something with contrast to pull the eyes to one part, it can be manageable though as it will be more background-noise-y.
>>48199365
Slightly better image I think. I dunno.. it doesn't scream 'raving lunatic with a chain sword who worships the emperor'
Maybe the pose? Got 9 of these fucks to so I reckon I'll sort it out slowly
Can someone link me to that Imperial Primer-styled humor website ?
>>48199486
Regimental Standard, guardsmen.
>>48199514
Many thanks.
>>48199470
Hm. Yeah I get you. I was initially against battle damage because 'muh glorious emperor worshippers wouldn't fight in anything less than perfect armour' but it'd fit grim dark. And yeah I fucked up with FAR too much blood for the blood god I know. I tried really hard on a nice marble looking base too that you'll never see. :(
>>48199473
now that i got a slightly better picture you may wanna go a bit lighter on that white as it seems to be really thick on the shoulder pad.
>Tactical Marines are 10 for $40
>Scouts are 5 for $25
>>48199527
If you make the white parts even brighter (I'm not good at doing white though, so I can't help with that) then any contrasting blood you do add will be more noticeable, while maintaining your "glorious crusaders for the Emperor" aesthetic.
Also a bit of rubble on some bases can go a long way towards making it look like they're striding through a (previously nice looking) grimdark hellscape. To be honest, you are best off asking /wip/. In my opinion, the mini is very well painted as is, at least by the standards of "tabletop with grimdark grim darkness theme."
>>48199473
make the eyes more intense. maybe even have them glowing slightly on the surrounding areas. Would make him look more intimidating
>>48199549
Yeah, Fucking 9 billion layers of watered down ulthuan grey to attempt to get an even white.
What'd you suggest instead?
>>48199595
>>48199599
Mm thanks anons. I think the super yellow light of my room is Fucking up colour balance a little. The eyes are visibly red in my local gw, and the cloak looks like white cloth rather than dried jizz.
I'll take a look at it tomorrow inn proper light though.
Rubbles a good one, my base idea is:
'recently just ranked a land raider through the chapel wall'
HERETIC SCUM WORSHIPPING FALSE GODS IN HIS OWN SANCTIFIED GROUND
*Anal rapage with chainswords ensues*
>>48199061
For vanguard go for arc, with the dominus hanging with skitarii the really useful relic is the cognis weapons one, the rules of that formation make it pretty good for the bs2 snap shots.
>>48197625
I think Contemptors look really silly.
>>48199061
It depends. If you're fighting a heavy vehicle list, you will fuck their shit up with Arc Rifles. If they don't have vehicles, Plasma Calivers are an expensive but deadly weapon. Don't ever use the Arquebus with them. The CQC stuff is what I generally run, it works well all around. As for Relics, they have fuck awesome ones. The Pater Radium will demolish Hordes, Necrons and any low-initiative army are fucking terrified of the Phase Taser (it goes on unsaved wound, so FNP/Reanimation still has it go off), the Phosphoenix is situational but in that situation is an absolute monster, and the Skull of Nikola can wreak major havoc with vehicles. An all-around solid pick-up, ally them with any army to bring in destructive firepower.
>>48199745
Here anon, a duel between two Contemptors!
New Cypher mini when?
Is it still possible to make a fluffy Iyanden list that won't end up wrecking the other fluffy lists in my area? A large amount of Eldar was given to me by a coworker whose son no longer wanted it. At least I hope she consulted her son.
>>48195656
UNLIMITED GROT WORKS
Please find a way to stick more Gretchin into this
>>48199605
Not him but have the guide to painting uo to white.
>>48200056
I think
>>48197854
solved your problem
>>48199946
WraithBLADES aren't awful.
What kind of DP loadout would be best against a very shooty army?
We're talking 500pts that me and my friends run and his skitarii have been a real tough match. I have some of the basic CSM and khorne daemons to work with for troops.
>>48200151
Every single time this is posted, someone says it's not accurate and they fudged the paint names etc to make it look easy. I don't know if that's true though. Maybe it's the same guy rageposting every time.
>>48201095
I used it before and it worked fine. Idk where my kill team is at the moment though so I cant give an example.
>>48199605
You used a layer paint? What were you thinking?
You need to use a base paint first. Layer paints are designed to show a little bit of the layer below them so that you can create specific shades of colors by combining a base paint with one or two layer paints.
You can tell a Base from a Layer by the label. If its a base color, its going to have a red shield outline on it. If its a Layer paint, the shield outline is blue.
Base coats are designed to completely override whatever is below them. You can go from blackest black to whitest white in three layers or less.
>>48197752
Guard anon here reporting in played 2000 pts DA (mostly elites) and Guard against orks.
>>48201473
You have my curiosity!
>>48198157
You say that but. Do you even play against tyranids? I've played loads of 2000pts games with them and the amount of rage I get from venomthrope spam has driven me crazy.
>>48201473
Ohhh, time to see some loyalist Guard and dark Angl...
>Zooms in on pic
Did FW discontinue selling the Mars Pattern Leman Russ chassis?
>>48201522
You missed the Ork in the top left as well.
>>48201511
>amount of rage I get from venomthrope spam has driven me crazy
it's only maybe the second most useful unit in the codex, playing without venomthropes feels like shooting myself in the dick almost all the time
>>48201496
Was actually my first big game with the Guard and I have to say forewarning on a Guard blob works amazing and they basically managed to tank everything the entire game and nothing even touched my tanks. We played the relic so that's the weird chaos warrior on a heavy weapons team in the middle is representing.
>>48198063
and they probably don't even look as good live, seeing as the picture was shopped, contrast and saturation heightened and stuff
>>48201522
It was our totally non heretical and Fallen relic for the game sir. Note the khorne warrior perched on the heavy weapons team. We were actually thinking about letting the controlling player use the lascannon if they got it.
>>48201267
Okay, thanks for the anecdote (seriously, that sounds kind of sarcastic, but it's nice to hear that it should work)
If I wanted to start Eldar Corsairs
Would start collecting Eldar or Start collecting Dark Eldar work better?
>>48201590
Except my friend is super rules lawyery with it so if your even in cover shooting out of it he still counts it as a 2+ cover save. And actually his mawloc has probably done more damage consistently to my army.
>>48201686
Get both. Corsairs is just Dark Eldar if it was written by the same people who made codex:Craftworlds.
The yellow heads of the Assault Marines from the BA looks really strange in a good way.
>>48201737
but shrouded just gives 2+ to your cover save, tell that nigger to read a book
>>48201686
You won't have any use for the Raider, but you can use Fire Prisms. Get the Start Collecting! Eldar to make Corsair jetbikes, plus a box of Kabalites to make your choice of Corsair infantry, and either give them jetpacks or stick them in Venom/Vyper/whatever the fuck Corsairs call it (I forget).
You should know that making a good Corsairs army requires a lot of DE and CE bitz. I guess you could stick to mostly having weapons from one or the other, but that's less fun. Disclaimer: I don't play Corsairs, but I play CE and DE, and I'm familiar (sort of) with the book.
>>48201638
blobs are the most excellent part of the IG book in my opinion.
I came to a point where I don't even shoot with my blobs anymore, I just charge everyone with them -- last game I FRFSRF'd a whole platoon and realized it had been MONTHS since I had handled that many dice while shooting.
Priests do that to ya.
>>48201801
He counts all cover as a 4+ when it benefits him. I don't really give a shit because I try my hardest to 360 lascannon no scope his venomthropes immediately but still it's pretty annoying when somehow he gets a 2+ even when assaulting.
>>48201864
He should only have a 4+ cover in terrain or when he has stealth and shrouded
If he has shrouded then he gets an additional +2 to his cover save
If he has stealth he gets an addition +1 to his cover save
If he has both he gets a +3 to his cover save
Nothing has a base cover save
You should call him out for cheating
>>48201845
YES. After the game I texted my opponent telling him that GW needs to nerf lasguns because they're too OP. But I actually am considering getting so many Guardsmen that I can fill up the entire back field behind my Leman Russ with Guardsmen so when Tau try to deepstrike behind and get rear armor there physically is nowhere to put them. Am I doing it right guys?
>>48201845
I wouldn't know what a blob feels like since I switched over to Armoured Company weeks after starting Guard. Maybe one day I'll get a conscript force to go with my Emperor's fist Tank Company.
>>48201914
nothing protects a tank better than a mass of 3-point conscripts, my friend.
Also, curiosly enough all my oponents have stopped even shooting at my blobs, everyone caught on that they are just the anvil that steers them to where the big guns go bang
>>48201908
yea but if your opponents using stealth cadre it wont matter if they cant place a model behind em.
>>48201845
I know that feel man. I run like anywhere from 70 - 100 marines(NOT EVEN A GLADIUS) on a regular basis.
Today I had a game against a grey knight army, where he brought 2 Dreadknights and a whole bunch of those teleporting heavy flamer dudes with power swords. I ended up surprising the shit out of him by charging his power sward squads with my assault marines, as I was quote "One of the few players to actually try charging them".
It's a no brainer man. If someone gets up in your face, it's almost ALWAYS better to just throw grenades and start charging. I killed two terminators that game with fuckin' frag grenades, and killed a draigo deathstar with equal points in tactical marines, just throwing grenades and charging. No power swords can save you from eating around 30 S4 hits(10 in shooting, 20 in melee). It's so much better than sitting still and going for 20 S4 shots.
>>48201942
Yes that's what I use for my games. I use my platoons to play keep away and meatshields for enemy assault infantry. Btw same anon who posted ork and guard game and it worked surprisingly well. Though probably because he goofed and had his orks spread too wide on his flanks and couldn't rush them in.
>>48200974
i would go with a shooty flying prince for CSM; tzeentch, wings, armor, lv3, burning brand and roll on telekinesis table
>>48199946
Wraithlords, wraithblades, wraithseers and spirit seers are all fine. You could also just decide to use the old rules for distortion weapons.
>>48201977
Well that's why I'm thinking of investing in massive pysker support so I can get 4+ divination invulns on my Leman Russ. And if it's stealth teams I just move the blob forward and assault them and tie them down in melee while my tanks do work.
I'm thinking about starting a Dark Angels greenwing army with lots of tacticals in rhinos, but how many should I have?
I've seen a lot of youtube videos about 40k tactics where it's suggested that you should have 1 tactical squad for every 500 points, is this accurate for Dark Angels? My goal is to build up to a 2000 points army, so should I have 4 rhinos with 10 marines in each one?
What is considered a good model count for 1500-2000 point marine armies?
>>48201998
In my last game I played against CSM with my IG, 1850 points. I brought a pretty straightforward list, some tanks, a manticore, veterans in chimeras and a bunch of infantry.
My oponent tried a "competitive" list he found somewhere (or rather, heard about from the asian dude at our club that loves to try and powergame but always fails spectacularly), consisting of some marines with flamers, that formation with respawning cultists, a Renegade Knight, Be'lakor and 5 sorcerers in bikes with mastery level 3.
He goofed with his knight, trying to get a clear shot at the manticore - which he failed because there was no range (and by the time he figured that out, no LoS to anything else either), put the bloody ion shield towards the side where I had pretty much nothing to hurt him and then immediately died to the Demolisher standing right in front of him, hidden behind a tower.
It was the silliest shit
You know for magic I always found lots if resources for how to build a deck, how to play a deck, theory on card types and strength, theories on deck type and strength.
If there any types of resources for that kind of stuff for 40k? I can't find much.
How competitive is the play in Battle Fleet Gothic: Armada's multiplayer? I pretty much play just single player mode in games and I'm not sure I could take getting trash talked and/or getting rekt well.
>>48202132
go to dakka dakka, bolter and chainsword or any of these forums (even 1d4chan) and look up the Tactics pages. They have some pretty neat stuff
>>48202088
I play my dark angels with 30 tacticals and then a squad of devestators and assault Marines. I run 2000pts of DA and the rest is termies,bikes,ven dread,a librarian,and then a command squad with a vindicator. It's pretty effective.
>>48202132
40k is a(n unbalanced mess of a) dice-based system so while I'm no expert on the subject, I doubt you're going to find the same academic rigor in 40k that is present in MTG and the like where the competitive scene is a serious industry. I've never heard of any 40k textbooks and the idea seems a bit preposterous t.b.h.
Most people get an idea of the meta by playing games, reading forum writeups, and dissecting netlists used in top tournaments afaik.
>>48202188
Do people just focus on making stuff for the meta when they play competitively? I just want to make a fluff army and use that in games.
>>48201914
This is my army so far. All of it except the knights and StormSword is secondhand models I got really cheap. I need to get my hands on an airbrush and a day of paint stripper to unfuck sone of these tanks up.
>>48198088
Those look super gay
>>48202210
It really depends on your area. Some clubs/FLGSs are full of WAAC shitbirds who only play the best units, some are full of fluff players who have fun no matter what, even at tournaments, and some are in between.
At the FLGSs in my area, it's totally casual and even in tournaments people are running shitty but fun units like Helbrutes, Berzerkers, Pyrovores, Blood Claws, etc. I think generally people are drawn to the game because they like the lore and models, so you're probably best off just fielding the models you like.
>>48201902
I'm guessing he means that his friend counted all the terrain as ruins for 4+ + 2+ = 2+ cover.
>>48202250
You've wasted your money, most of that belongs in the trash.
Does anyone have the photo evaluating the value of the start collecting boxes?
Like based on the usability of the units?
>>48201473
Are those guardsmen hoisting a Khorne guy above their heads?
>>48198088
Oh shit I just realized that the Slaanesh symbol looks a lot like Prince's "name" when he was in that record label dispute
>>48202296
Well if he got most of it for cheap then nbd.
>>48202250
Nice tonks, man.
I got a hellhound out of chinaman - well, kinda, a friend of mine asked if I was gonna buy anything in our group's monthly order, I said I didn't have any cash, he said he'd buy it for me and I'd pay him later. Now he's holding the model until I pay and pressuring me for the cash.
Other than that I have 4 leman russes, 3 chimeras, a manticore and a vendetta. I'd really like to buy a wyvern but I can't find it in this 3rd world hell hole I call a country.
>>48202210
Here's what I did:
Take your fluff. Now decide what the most important elements of that fluff is and which units embody that fluff. Now look at the metas and the tournaments and the netlists and whatever else you may want.
Build your list around the fluffy units. Fluffy units come first and will make up a signifigant portion of your points list. Those fluffy units are probably not optimal, though, so your going to use the rest of your points to build the most optimal list possible WITHOUT removing or adding units that compromise your fluff.
What you'll probably get is a list that can hold its own against other 'casual' players, but won't make it far in tournaments.
>>48202302
Yes. We did it for shits and giggles because the store owner wanted us to "make" our own relic because we were playing the relic. It turned out pretty good.
>>48202250
That Green Knight looks like he has Irritable Bowel Syndrome.
Okay /tg/ how do i run a campaign where each side of the forces are dwindling as the matches run on?
>>48202250
What's that white tank?
>>48202296
Oh man, those 100 dollars down the drain. Atleast I didn't spend 3 grand on prepainted CSM.
>>48202367
Stop because they don't care so you shouldn't care
>>48202367
You just do the opposite of an escalation campaign
>>48198088
Anon, please share details for dice. Are those chessex and how did you bypass the copyright restrictions?
>>48202250
>Commander! I got the smoke grenade dischargers you ordered! Where should I put them?
Bah! Weld them to the multilaser for all I care; I only need those Chimeras for transport purposes anyways!
Whats your plan for those tanks, anon? What's your color scheme....no pun intended.
Are any of the start collecting boxes worth it
>>48202367
2000 point games for first round.
1850 points for round two.
1500 points for the third round
1000 points for the final round.
500 points for a postapocalyptic epilague.
>>48202421
Almost all of them.
>>48202427
What ones aren't
>>48202325
Well, I hope you get a good sculpt. I want to try chinaman but I hear some pretty bad stories about modelsnfrom china from the people at the lgs.
>>48202339
Gerantis probably had motor oil indigestion issues when too many ork spores got stuck into the filters.
>>48202374
I got it from a dust Tactics box set awhile before warhammer.
>>48202386
forgeworld dice for horus heresy, haven't looked at the prices yet but I'm guessing the price will be somewhere between exorbitant and criminal.
>>48202437
Nids, Orks, Chaos.
>>48202381
okay
>>48197752
I posted my army here like a week ago. Just realized I don't actually have any pictures of them in game, though...
Someone called me out on on me asking for help with a Draigo list telling me to post my army or not to post at all. I answered with pic related.
>>48202400
I'm thinking maybe an Orange or Light Blue colour in the style of Borderlands. I just need to know how that one person painted their nids so amazingly.
>>48202438
at my club we know a dude who married a chinese woman and is kind of a professional smuggler of sorts -- this dude knows the chinese caster dudes and goes back and forth from here to china getting us some sweet miniatures. I bought 4 sentinels from them, at like 10 dollars each, and they are pretty good as long as you don't drop them. Or they'll shatter like glass.
>>48202461
the start collecting nids formation can actually be used pretty effectively to throw a shitton of gargoyles in someone's face on turn one
>>48202472
he has a tutorial up for it somewhere, its kind of complicated but not nearly as complicated as it might seem
>>48202474
>at my club we know a dude who married a chinese woman and is kind of a professional smuggler of sorts
>this dude knows the chinese caster dudes and goes back and forth from here to china getting us some sweet miniatures.
>I bought 4 sentinels from them, at like 10 dollars each, and they are pretty good
>as long as you don't drop them.
>Or they'll shatter like glass.
Wtf man, are you that guy from Antman.
>friend wants to start Dark Eldar
>he doesn't take losing very well
This should be fun
>>48202536
>mfw I bought roughly 1800pts of DE in the last 2 months and still haven't played them.
I'm probably gonna get CRUSHED in my first match, but at least I'll have something on my side in having my friends let me run them as Corsairs.
