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BOS:Yoan Moncada named MVP of Futures Game
CLE:Indians release veteran Joba Chamberlain
LA:Maeda strikes out career-high 13 in victory
BOS:David Price strikes out 10 as Sox beat Rays
MIN:Kepler launches grand slam in rout of Rangers
SF:Hunter Pence (hamstring) runs at 80 percent
BAL:Tillman improves to 12-2 despite five walks
TOR:Donaldson launches three-run homer vs DET
SEA:Mike Montgomery stymies KC in spot start
STL:Leake whiffs 10 as Cardinals beat Brewers
ATL:Folty fans 10 over seven scoreless vs. CWS
OAK:Royals expressing interest in Josh Reddick
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Daily reminder that beating the Dodgers is equivalent to winning the WS for Giants fans
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Royals
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>>69474301
Baseball!!!
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KC
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Braves rock my sock off.
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Fuck /a/
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>>69474316
when you win so many world series, you need to start looking for other accomplishments
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>>69474301

nth for lots of pilates over the all star break
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You may only reply to this post if your team won going into the all star break
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> Reddick
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>>69474395
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>Bumgarner has lowered ERA to 1.96 and would be only the 5th pitcher in MLB history to have an ERA below 2.00 at the All-Star break
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never really cared about other team's pitchers desu
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>>69474435
And yet, no no-hitter.

Sad.
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Here is the AL Central if it was ranked by who won away games.

>indians
26-20
>Tigers
23-27
>White sox
21-21
>Royals
16-30
>Twinks
13-29

The fucking twins almost have more away wins then the KCR.
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>>69474435
/sp/ tells me he isn't that good though
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>>69474462
now do home games senpai
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>>69474462
Kauffman babbys
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>>69474453
Not really
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>Rags getting swept by the T__n's
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>>69474435
not as impressive as having it below 2.00 at the end of the season
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>>69474451
We'd probably like Cishek more if he were used in the 8th. His numbers are good
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>>69474470
>>69474475
AL Central by home games
>royals
29-13
>Windians
26-16
>Tigers
23-16
>Whitesox
24-22
>Twinks
19-27
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>>69474489
Still pretty impressive though. I mean, only four other players have done it so....
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>>69474451
>hating Altuve

The only, ONLY reason anybody ever has to hate on Altuve is if he just got done going 5/5 against them.
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>>69474501
Now vs Division only
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>>69474451

template i made for reference
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mariner fans who don't have Felix as their favorite player are degenerate scum
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>>69474505
what's more impressive

3 homers, 2 double
or
4 homers

which one has happened more often
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>>69474301
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>>69474575
...are you implying I'm saying before the all star break is more impressive or something?
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>>69474451
>likes David Ortiz
>hates Altuve

Really makes me think
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>>69474577
No, this is the Bumgarners
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Damn that an impressive start.

I wonder what his gamescore was for that game
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so glad the ace of my team has thrown a no-hitter

Can you even be considered an ace if you have no no-hitters?
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I fucking hate Altuve, he is a smug little manlet cunt who happens to be very good

>>69474497
>numbers are good
>leads the mlb in blown saves, the single most important stat for closers
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>>69474581
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>>69474575
4 homers = 5.76 runs created
3 HR/2 2B = 5.14 runs created
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>>69474644
104
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>half of the season over

How has your team done so far /sp/?
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>MadBum 14K CGSO
>57-33
>6 Game Division Lead
>Even Year Meme Magic
Feels bretty gud
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>>69474683
Shit thats pretty high. I wonder how that compares to some other recent dominate games pitched
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>>69474683
there's no way his GS is one off of Wood's when he gave up one more walk and got 6 less strikeouts
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>>69474653
he could have just taken another step to his left instead
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>>69474695
>inb4 but he doesn't have a no-no
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>>69474540
pls no
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>>69474716
let the shitposters be jealous. it's >our year
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Remember that one time that MadBum threw a no-hitter?
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>>69474746
yeah
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>>69474453
>implying no-hitters or perfect games mean anything

It was really impressive watching Matt Cain throw a perfect game against a 100+ loss Astros team
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>>69474746

I remember that CGSO in the WS
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>>69474746
You mean the Perfect Game in Game 4 of the 2016 World Series? Best performance I've ever seen from a pitcher.
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>>69474775
>>69474766
Please show me the highlights of Madison Bumgarner's no hitter.

I'm dying to see it
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>>69474707
>there's no way his GS is one off of Wood's when he gave up one more walk and got 6 less strikeouts
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>>69474732
You right.
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>>69474795

You didn't even read what I said, did you
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>>69474766
What about Don Larsen in the World Series?
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>the t___s are the only team in the central that won today
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>>69474839
>R
>A
>G
>S
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>>69474695
>6.5
Well to be precise it's SIX AND HALF GAMES OVER THE DOYERS
So will we get shitposting or a doyers fan ghost town?
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>>69474644
>>69474683
It was 98
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>>69474856
??
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>his team isn't on pace to win 100 games
>his team hasn't won 3 World Series this decade
>his team doesn't have the most National League pennants
>his team doesn't have the best record in baseball
>the situation is so dire for their team that they gloat when an opposing pitcher pitches a complete game shutout, with one hit and one walk allowed

Pretty embarrassing honestly
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did /mlb/ adopt the rags meme from /hoc/
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>Bumgarner not getting a no hitter is like winning the WS for Dodgers fans
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>>69474849
Christ every fucking thread with you people
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>>69474856
>>69474880
Never mind that's not even possible you're right
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>>69474884

Shut up, Don't Jinx us
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>>69474880
50 (base) + 27 (outs) + 10 (innings bonus) + 14 (SO) - 2 (hit) - 1 (walk) = 98
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>>69474884
Wow, so you're like the Warriors of MLB?

Have fun getting raped in the playoffs, assholes!

>>69474893
Bumgarner isn't even the ace...Cueto is
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>>69474694
Actually just as expected. At the 31 game mark I predicted they'd be 53-35 at the All-Star Break and they ended up 52-36, feels good.
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>>69474908
yeah someone on MLB fucked up the math, cause there is no way that >>69474707 can be true
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>>69474915
Why is the Giants success dependent on the Warriors in any way?
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>>69474895
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Does the Blue Jay's announcer know that it's not supposed to be pronounced Jash Danoldson?
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>>69474895
Rags?
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>>69474895

>R
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>>69474945
So original. Go ahead, spell Rangers in a le epic way again --- it's super hilarious!
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>>69474942
I think he's saying >regular season.

Less of a meme in mlb though.
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>>69474954
JASH DANULSON
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>>69474942
Because
>muh bay area sports
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>>69474895
To be fair if rags didn't shitpost as hard as they did this wouldn't be happening.
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>>69474975

>RAGS
>A
>G
>S
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>>69474954
>implying buck is sober enough to know anything
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I will honestly never understand why the Giants make people so mad
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WEW LAD
E
W

L
A
D
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>>69474451
how can you hate altuve
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>>69475035
>even year magic mem
>le gay city mem
>buster slide rule
>post-season tomfoolery
>god-tier front office
>muh steroids
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>>69475035
>they're good
Not too hard to understand, m9
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Wait. I thought the all star game was exactly in the middle of the season. Why do most teams have like 90 games played? Shouldn't a teams have 81?
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>>69475035
>Best active manager
>Best active front office
>Best active infield
>Best active catcher
>Best active pitcher
>3 world series in 5 years
>On pace to win another

Pretty easy to see why people get mad
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>>69475173
It's not the exact middle, ever. They just say "first half" or "second half" out of convenience. It's roughly 90 games before the all star break
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>>69475173
schedules aren't equal
also there's rain delays and stuff
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>>69475256
No, it's because the all star break isn't in the middle of the season, it's after roughly 90 games, not 80
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>>69474975
>R
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>>69475346
>A
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>>69475351
>G
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>>69475351
>G
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>NL WC
Pirates, Marlins

>AL DIVISIONS
Rangers (1st seed), Orioles, Indians

>AL WC
Jays, Astron

>WC GAMES
Marlins over Pirates
Jays over Astron

>NLDS
Giants over Marlins
Nats over Cubs

>ALDS
Jays over Rangers
Indians over Orioles

>NLCS AND ALCS
Nats over Giants
Indians over Jays

>WS
Nats over Indians

t. Marlins fan
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>>69475372
>>WS
>Nats
Ya goofed
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who /dip oreos into milk/ here?
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>>69475386
is this bait?
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Have you bros ever cried because you love baseball so much. I was watching the Marlins game today and I was just so proud of them.
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>>69475406
gibe ichi back to his rightful team
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>>69475602
Yeah, give him back
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>>69475638
FUCK YOU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H17AqrJ-1M
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How is your team's 1st draft pick doing so far?
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>Ichiro hasn't gotten a hit in days
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>>69474915
> your dominant pitcher isn't even the ace, you have another guy being even more dominant

These are the kind of "insults" that make you think trolling just isn't what it used to be
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How long until the Nippon Ham Fighters join MLB?
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>>69475659
It'll be nice to see both of them go into the HoF with pinstripes
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>>69475701
only had 2 ABs since his last hit
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>>69475695
>zack collins
>1 for 11 with 7 strikeouts in the Arizona League

wew
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>Maybe I have a weak spot for Prior, as his performance the last two years can’t match that of several pitchers behind him [on trade the value rankings list]. But watching him pitch when he’s going right is like watching a movie. He has three amazing pitches, great command, and he knows how to pitch. He just turned 25, and he’s the most talented pitcher in the National League. I have a feeling his next five years will be a lot more successful than the last five.
Dave Cameron, December 2005
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>>69475741
He'd be more likely to go in a Marlin than a Yankee
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Who was the better center fielder /sp/?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HaxrzW3aSrc
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>>69475769
Is that on USSMariner somewhere?
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>>69475769
Kerry Wood and Mark Prior

What could have been

30 for 30 when?
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>>69475768
He'll fit in just fine
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>>69475769
>David Cameron: I'm with Rany. Mark Prior has, by far, the best mechanics of any pitcher alive. It isn't really close. He repeats his delivery more often than Greg Maddux does. His arm looks like it's on an electromagnetic track and cannot be derailed. Somebody is eventually going to use him to sell instructional videos on how to pitch. He's remarkable.

>Besides, I think you'd be hard pressed to find a pitcher who hasn't thrown 126 pitches at some point in his career. Prior may get hurt at some point, because throwing a baseball is an unnatural act, but I think he's one of the better bets among pitchers to have a long, healthy career.

>I'll take Rany a step further. If you offered me anyone in the game to start my franchise with, I'd flip-flop between Prior and Alex Rodriguez for a few days, before finally taking the hitter. But Prior is a clear #2.
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Which elite pitcher can Boston trade Moncada for. They don't need him, they'll have the Based Manlet for another 20 years anyway.
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>>69475838
yet Dusty Baker remains a freeman today

NO JUSTICE NO PEACE
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>>69475798
>a ballpark that favors neither an american nor a national league player
What did he mean by this?
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>>69475792
No, he'll go in a Yankee along with Ivan Rodriguez, Randy Johnson, Kenny Lofton, and Gary Sheffield
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>>69475769
http://www.ussmariner.com/2005/12/05/trade-value/

5: Felix Hernandez, RHP, Seattle
I’ve written so much about Felix, I’m running out of interesting things to say about him. Long Live the King.

>reminder that dave cameron literally fixed felix hernandez

http://www.ussmariner.com/2007/06/27/an-open-letter-to-rafael-chaves/

>You’re the pitching coach. You have a 21-year-old pitcher who badly needs coaching. Intervene. Take over control of the pitch selection to start the game. Make Felix throw a change-up or a curve ball to the first batter. Throw a first pitch slider in the first inning.
>What you’re letting him do is simply not working. By throwing nothing but fastballs to the first several batters of the game, every game, he’s asking hitters to come to the plate and sit on a straight, high velocity pitch that they know they’re going to get. Is it any wonder the league is hitting .370 off Felix Hernandez in the first inning?
>Pitch selection won’t fix Felix’s command, and it won’t make him a Cy Young contender. Command is a problem, but so is his pitch selection. You can fix the latter.
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>>69475887
Randy Johnson is already in the HoF, yancuck
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>>69475939
It's only a matter of time until he decides to change his plaque from D-Backs to Yankees
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>>69475978
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!
How about no you, cuck. Take your bankee fan opinion and gas yourself you jew.
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>>69476019
hey man me and tejas yanquis were just throwin some bantz around for fun there's no need to get vicious
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>>69476019
There is literally no reason to be mad right now, my friend
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>>69476035
>facial hair
fake
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>>69476045
Who is Jose Bautista?
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>>69476066
José Antonio Bautista Santos[1] (born October 19, 1980) is a Dominican professional baseball right fielder for the Toronto Blue Jays of Major League Baseball (MLB). His professional career began when the Pittsburgh Pirates selected him in the 20th round of the 2000 first year player draft. In 2010, Bautista became the 26th member of the 50 home run club while leading the major leagues in home runs for the first of two consecutive seasons, and, from 2010–15, has hit more home runs than any player in the major leagues. An MLB All-Star selection six consecutive times, he has won three Silver Slugger Awards and two Hank Aaron Awards. In addition, he has been granted the American League Player of the Month Award five times and the Player of the Week four times.

Although major league scouts initially noted Bautista while in junior college for his batting skills – including power hitting potential – and a strong throwing arm, his career took detours until realizing that potential in 2010. He made his MLB debut with the Baltimore Orioles in 2004, and, that year, became the first player ever to appear on five MLB rosters in one season. He has since been voted in the top ten in the AL Most Valuable Player Award four times and is a leader or among the top ten in numerous offensive single-season and career categories in Blue Jays' franchise history.[4]

Since 2010, Bautista has hit at least 27 home runs each year, and, in four of those seasons, has hit at least 35 home runs, has both scored and driven in at least 100 runs, and has drawn at least 100 bases on balls, including twice leading the AL. In 2015, while playing in the playoffs for the first time, his bat flip in the American League Division Series caused a sensation that became a symbol of Toronto's first playoff appearance in 22 years. In 2011, he set up a program that assists athletes from the Dominican Republic to attend universities in the United States.
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>>69476093
Coming from a middle-class family in the Dominican Republic that stressed education, Bautista began his study of English at age eight. His mother was an accountant and financial planner, and his father, who had earned a master's degree in agricultural engineering from Hungary, ran poultry farms. Bautista attended a private high school, De La Salle High School, in Santo Domingo. He was aided by the Latin Athletes Education Fund,[5] designed for players from Spanish-speaking countries aspiring to play college baseball in the United States. Although he invested much time in pursuing professional baseball, Baustista studied business at Pontificia Universidad Católica Madre y Maestra in case a career in baseball did not materialize.[6]

After working out with various Major League Baseball (MLB) clubs, he turned down offers of $5,000 from the New York Yankees and $42,000 from the Arizona Diamondbacks. The Cincinnati Reds offered him $300,000, which Bautista accepted. However, before the contract could become official, the team changed ownership and subsequently rescinded the offer. Bautista then created a highlight tape of himself using a camcorder and sent it to various colleges in the United States. There was no response until he received a call from Oscar Pérez, who he had known from the Quique Cruz League, a league in the Dominican Republic. Pérez informed him of the Latin Athletes Education Fund, designed for players from Spanish-speaking countries aspiring to play college baseball in the United States. He connected Baustista with Don Odermann, a businessman in the San Francisco Bay Area. Odermann, who assisted baseball players from Latin America desiring to play baseball in the US, knew that Chipola College, a junior college in Marianna, Florida, was seeking an everyday player. There, Bautista played for two years until being drafted.[6][7]
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>>69474395
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>>69476108
The Pittsburgh Pirates drafted José Bautista in the 20th round of the 2000 Major League Baseball draft from Chipola College. After playing in Minor League Baseball in the Pirates organization through 2003, the Baltimore Orioles selected him in the Rule 5 draft and carried him on their Opening Day roster. He made his MLB debut with Baltimore on April 4, 2004. The Tampa Bay Devil Rays claimed him off waivers on June 3. Twenty-five days later, the Kansas City Royals purchased him from Tampa Bay. The Royals then traded him to the New York Mets on July 30 for Justin Huber, who then traded him minutes later to Pittsburgh with Ty Wigginton and minor leaguer Matt Peterson for Kris Benson and Jeff Keppinger.[8] This series of transactions made him the first and only player to appear on five different Major League rosters in one season.[9]

Bautista played in 11 games for the Pirates in 2005. In 2006, his first full season in the major leagues, Bautista hit .235 with 16 home runs (HR) and 51 runs batted in (RBI). The following season in 2007, he posted similar numbers in 142 games, finishing the season with a batting average of .254, 15 home runs and 63 RBI. That same year, he became the starting third baseman for the Pittsburgh Pirates. He took over for reigning National League batting champion Freddy Sanchez, who moved to second base.

Bautista was to be the Pirates' starting third baseman and backup outfielder in 2008. From June 14 to 24, he hit five home runs in a span of nine games against interleague opponents Baltimore, Chicago White Sox, Toronto Blue Jays, and the New York Yankees. However, he struggled offensively for most of the year, and after the 2008 trade deadline Bautista lost his starting job to the newly acquired Andy LaRoche. Bautista was optioned to the Triple-A Indianapolis Indians on August 13. After performing well there, on August 21, the Pirates traded him to the Blue Jays for a player to be named later, who eventually was Robinzon Díaz.
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>>69476118
Starting the 2009 season on the bench, manager Cito Gaston assigned Bautista to back up third baseman Scott Rolen and outfielders Alex Ríos and Adam Lind. Bautista started the season with a .317 batting average, .404 on-base percentage (OBP) and .463 slugging percentage (SLG) in 49 plate appearances in April. However, his numbers fell off, as he batted between .167 and .231 each month from May through August with two total home runs. At times he showed marked plate discipline; in the month of May, he walked 14 times for a .403 OBP despite batting just .231.[1] Eventually, the Chicago White Sox claimed Rios off waivers, the Blue Jays assigned Lind to the role of designated hitter, and an injury to Marco Scutaro led to an increase in Bautista's playing time and making him the leadoff hitter.[11][12]

As the season drew to a close, the Blue Jays made changes to their coaching staff. One was to move first base coach Dwayne Murphy to replace the retiring Gene Tenace as hitting coach. Formerly a Blue Jays' minor league roving hitting instructor and hitting coach, Murphy had already spent nearly one year working with Bautista, teaching him to leverage his pull power by starting his swing with his now-familiar high leg kick.[9] In September, he finally broke through, hitting 10 home runs with 21 RBI, a .257 batting average and a .606 slugging percentage (SLG).[1] He hit 13 total HR in 2009 with 40 RBI, a batting average of .235, and 79 hits in 113 games. Originally considered to be a non-tender candidate, he re-signed with the Blue Jays on a one-year $2.4 million US contract for the 2010 season.
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>>69476130
Bautista began the 2010 campaign as the starting right fielder and leadoff hitter. On May 17, he was named AL Player of the Week after hitting .444 (8-for-18) with 20 total bases, four home runs, eight RBI, eight runs scored, a .565 OBP, and an MLB-best 1.111 SLG.[15] Bautista hit his 20th home run as part of a two-home run night against the St. Louis Cardinals on June 22, setting a new career high for a single season in just two months.[16]

For the month of July, Bautista batted .347, with 11 home runs, 29 RBI, and an AL-leading .765 slugging percentage, sharing American League Player of the Month honors with Twins outfielder Delmon Young.[19] Bautista was also named Blue Jays' Player of the Month, which is selected through voting by the Toronto chapter of the Baseball Writers' Association of America.[20][21] With his 12 home runs in May and 11 in July, Bautista became only the third Blue Jay player in franchise history to have two months with at least 10 home runs.[20]

Bautista was named co-winner of the American League Player of the Week award for the period ending August 1. Bautista hit .545 with five homers and 13 RBI during that span.[22] On August 26, Bautista hit his 100th career home run against the Detroit Tigers.[23] Bautista was again named player of the week for the week ending August 29; in seven games that week, Bautista led the American League with a .500 batting average (10-for-20) and hit four home runs.[24] Bautista became the only Blue Jays player to ever win the award three times in one season.[citation needed] Bautista won AL Player of the Month for the month of August, in which he hit he led the AL in home runs (12), RBI (24), slugging percentage (.724) and total bases (72), while tying for the lead in extra-base hits (18). He finished tied for second with 23 runs and was third with 23 walks.[25] He also won the Honda Player of the Month Award, his second such award in as many months.
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>>69476149
On September 17, Bautista set the new Blue Jays single-season home run record with his 48th home run, breaking the record set by George Bell.[27] On September 23, Bautista became the 26th player in Major League Baseball history to reach the 50 home run club in one season, and the first Toronto Blue Jay player to do so.[28] His 52nd home run set a new MLB record for the largest single-season increase in home runs, eclipsing Davey Johnson's 38 home run increase from 1972 to 1973.[29] Bautista finished the 2010 season with an MLB-leading 54 home runs, the highest total since Alex Rodriguez hit 54 in 2007. Bautista won the AL Hank Aaron and a Silver Slugger Awards for his offensive performance.[30][31] and finished fourth in the AL Most Valuable Player Award (MVP) voting, behind Hamilton, Miguel Cabrera and Robinson Canó.[32] The Toronto chapter of the BBWAA named Bautista the Blue Jays' Most Valuable Player, the Blue Jays' Most Improved Player, and presented him the John Cerutti Award for displaying "goodwill, cooperation and character".

Bautista agreed to a five-year contract extension worth US$64 million before the 2011 season.[34] He began the season as the starting right fielder for the Blue Jays, with Edwin Encarnación playing third base.[35] Bautista walked 28 times in the month of April, breaking a club record that was set when Carlos Delgado collected 26 bases on balls in April 2001. Bautista was unanimously selected for the Blue Jays' Player of the Month award, and was also named the AL Player of the Month for the month of April (his third such award in four months, dating back to the 2010 season).
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>>69476164
On May 15, Bautista hit three home runs against the Minnesota Twins, the first three-home run game of his career.[38] On May 28, in a home game against the Chicago White Sox, Bautista hit his 20th home run, a three-run shot to left field, becoming the first player to reach 20 home runs in 2011 as well as the fastest player to reach 20 home runs (44 games) in Blue Jays franchise history.[39] Bautista won the AL Player of the Month award for May, his fourth such award in five months. He also became the first player to have the highest number of home runs in a single month for five consecutive months since Jimmie Foxx did so from June 1933 to April 1934.[40] Bautista also won the Blue Jays' Player of the Month award for the second consecutive month.[41] On June 23, the Blue Jays shifted Bautista to third base and recalled Eric Thames to play the outfield.[42]

Bautista was selected for the 2011 MLB All-Star Game, receiving a record 7,454,753 votes.[43] At the time of his selection, he led the MLB in home runs (26), walks (70), OBP (.471), slugging percentage (.679), OPS (1.150), times on base (160) and was also in second place for runs scored (64), total bases (182) and extra base hits (41). He became the first Blue Jay in history to lead the league in All-Star voting. He was also the first Blue Jay to be voted into the All-Star game as a starter since Carlos Delgado in 2003.[44] Bautista participated in the Home Run Derby; he hit four home runs and was eliminated in the first round.[45]
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>>69476176
On August 5, with the debut of prospect Brett Lawrie to play third base, Bautista returned to right field. In a game against the Oakland Athletics on August 20, Bautista walked three times, which brought his season total to 102 walks in 113 games, the fastest a player reached 100 walks since Barry Bonds in 2007.[46] During a game against the New York Yankees on September 5, Bautista hit his 40th home run of the season, a solo homer off reliever Rafael Soriano. He became the second player in franchise history with back-to-back 40 home run seasons.[47] Two games later on September 7, against the Boston Red Sox, Bautista stole home plate on a double steal in which Lawrie took second base, becoming the first 40 home run hitter to steal home plate since Adam Dunn in 2004.[48]

After leading the major leagues in home runs for the second consecutive season with 43, Bautista became the first player to do so since Mark McGwire in 1998 and 1999.[49] Baustista also led the majors in slugging percentage (.608), OPS (1.056) and walks (132) and the AL in intentional walks (24). He placed second in OBP (.447)[50] behind Cabrera. He batted .302 and also placed in the top ten in the league in runs scored (105), total bases (312) and times on base (293). Defensively, he led AL right fielders with five double plays turned and placed fourth in assists with 13 and fifth with six errors.[50] His walk total was the highest in the league since Jason Giambi collected 137 in 2000,[51] while setting a new Blue Jays franchise record, which Delgado previously held with 123, also in 2000.
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>>69476192
He also set new Blue Jays' single-season records with 8.1 total Wins Above Replacement (WAR) and 8.3 offensive WAR according to Baseball-Reference.com, edging John Olerud's 7.7 total in 1993, and Delgado's 8.1 offensive WAR in 2000. Bautista held the record for total WAR until Josh Donaldson rated at 8.8 in 2015; however, as of 2015, Bautista still holds the record for offensive WAR.[4] He was the American League winner of the Hank Aaron Award for the second consecutive season,[52] becoming just the third player in the award's history, after Rodriguez and Barry Bonds, to win the award in back-to-back years. Bautista also received his second consecutive Silver Slugger Award.[53]

On January 30, Bautista was announced as the cover athlete for the Canadian edition of MLB 12: The Show.[54] In an interleague game against the Milwaukee Brewers on June 19, 2012, Bautista hit the second of three straight solo home runs by the Blue Jays, between Colby Rasmus and Edwin Encarnación, the first time since 2005 that the Jays went back-to-back-to-back with home runs.[55] Bautista also took over the MLB lead in home runs for 2012, hitting his 25th on June 27 against the Boston Red Sox, which broke the Blue Jays club record for home runs in a month, with 13. He went on to finish the month with 14 home runs, one short of the American League record for June.[citation needed]
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>>69476204

Bautista was voted an American League starter in the All-Star Game for the second consecutive year and his third overall All-Star selection. Hamilton surpassed Bautista's record vote total of the prior year.[56] On July 2, Bautista was named American League Player of the Month for June. It was his fifth time receiving the honor in his career. He batted .274 with 14 home runs and 30 RBI in the month of June. His 14 home runs in June set a new Blue Jays franchise record for home runs in a month.[57] Bautista competed in the Home Run Derby. At the time of his selection, he led all major league players with 26 home runs.[58] Bautista finished second to Prince Fielder.[59]

Bautista was placed on the 15-day disabled list on July 17 with inflammation in his wrist.[60] He had started in all previous 90 games, and the Blue Jays called up prospect Anthony Gose to take his place after the game.[60] Bautista was activated on August 24, but returned to the disabled list on August 26 after he re-aggravated the injury to his left wrist. On August 28, the Jays announced that he would undergo season-ending surgery on the wrist.[61][62] In 2012, Bautista batted .241 with 27 home runs and 65 RBI in 92 games.[1]

On January 21, 2013, it was announced that Bautista would once again be the cover athlete of the Canadian edition of MLB 13: The Show.[63] Bautista hit his 200th career home run in a game against the Boston Red Sox on June 29. On July 6, he was elected to his fourth consecutive All-Star Game, and his third as the starting right fielder for the American League. At the time of his selection, he batted .264 with 20 HR and 52 RBI.[64] In the All-Star Game, he recorded the game-winning RBI on a sacrifice fly in the fourth inning as the American League won 3–0.[65]
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>>69476204
What have I done
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>>69476222
Playing against the Oakland Athletics on July 30, Bautista hit his 25th home run of the season. In doing so, he became the fourth player in Blue Jays franchise history to hit at least 25 home runs in four consecutive seasons, joining Bell (1984–1987), Carter (1991–1996), and Delgado (1996–2004).[66] His season ended prematurely for the second consecutive time on September 4, when it was announced that he would be shutdown with a left hip bone bruise. Bautista finished 2013 with a .259 batting average, 28 home runs, and 73 RBI.[67]

Bautista opened the 2014 season with a streak of 37 games in which he reached base safely. His streak, the longest to open a season in Blue Jays franchise history, came to an end on May 11, when he went 0–4.[68] On June 18, he recorded his 1,000 career hit in a game against the New York Yankees.[69] Bautista was named as the American League Captain for the 2014 Major League Baseball Home Run Derby on June 23.[70] On July 6, it was announced that not only was he elected to his fifth consecutive All-Star Game, but, for the second time, received the highest number of votes in the Majors, with 5,859,019.[71]

On August 10, Bautista ended the longest game in franchise history by hitting an opposite field single to drive in Munenori Kawasaki in the 19th inning, and give the Jays the 6–5 win over the Detroit Tigers.[72] On August 26, Bautista hit his 25th home run of the season, and in doing so, joined Carter and Delgado as the only Blue Jays players in franchise history to hit at least 25 in five or more consecutive seasons.[73] Four days later, Bautista hit his 100th career home run at Rogers Centre, a two-run shot off Yankees starter Michael Pineda, and his fourth straight game with a home run which tied a career-high.[74] He would go on to hit a home run on August 31, extending his home run streak to five games and establishing a new career-high.[75]
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>>69476240
In a home game against the Chicago Cubs on September 8, Bautista hit his 200th home run as a Blue Jay, joining Bell, Delgado, Carter, and Vernon Wells as the only players with 200 or more home runs in franchise history.[76] Bautista finished 2014 with a .286 batting average, 35 home runs, and 103 RBI. He won his third Silver Slugger Award for his efforts.

In early 2015, Bautista earned 10-and-5 rights by having at least 10 years of service time in the big-leagues, with the last 5 being on the same team. These rights give Bautista the ability to veto any trade he would be involved in.[77] In a home game against the Orioles on April 21, Bautista hit his 250th career home run.[78] He injured his right shoulder during that game, attempting to throw out Delmon Young at first base. He was held out of the lineup for several days before returning, exclusively as the designated hitter. Bautista received a cortisone shot on May 24 and returned to the outfield on June 2, against the Washington Nationals.[79] On July 6, Bautista was named to his sixth-consecutive All-Star team, as a reserve outfielder in Cincinnati.[80] However, on July 11 it was announced that he would sit out the game due to a shoulder injury.[81] Bautista tied Vernon Wells for second place on the Blue Jays' all-time home run list on July 21, when he hit his 223rd home run for Toronto in a 7–1 win over the Athletics.[82] He surpassed Wells on July 24 in a 5–2 loss to the Seattle Mariners.[83]
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Now this is autism
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>>69476240
On October 8, 2015, with just over 1,400 career games played, Bautista made his postseason debut against the Texas Rangers in the American League Division Series (ALDS). In the fifth and final game of the series on October 14, Bautista hit a three-run home run off Sam Dyson that gave the Jays a 6–3 lead that they would not relinquish, sending Toronto to the American League Championship Series (ALCS).[91] Bautista watched the home run and flipped his bat high into the air before running the bases, a celebratory gesture that was applauded by Jays fans and media outlets,[92] while drawing the ire of Rangers players as unsportsmanlike, in the midst of a 53-minute seventh inning laden with controversy.[93] A vital symbol of Toronto's first postseason appearance since 1993,[94] the bat flip was voted Esurance's MLB Award for Best Play on Offense for 2015.[95] In the five games of the ALDS, Bautista batted .273 with two home runs and five RBI.[1]

In Game 3 of the ALCS against the Kansas City Royals, Bautista had one hit and two walks, joining Keith Hernandez as the only players in MLB postseason history to reach base three times on their birthday. The Blue Jays would win the game, 11–8.[96] In Game 6, Bautista hit two home runs, including a two-run game-tying homer at the top of the eighth inning to tie the game at 3–3; however Kansas City would win 4–3 to take the pennant.[97]

On November 3, 2015, Toronto exercised Bautista's $14 million option for 2016.[98]
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we've reached levels of autism not thought possible
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>>69476273
During a game against the Texas Rangers on May 15, 2016, Bautista was hit by a pitch from Matt Bush, which many believed to be retaliation by the Rangers organization for Bautista's bat flip in the 2015 ALDS. Two batters later, Bautista, intending to break-up a double play, made an illegal slide into second base and made contact with Rougned Odor. Odor retaliated by shoving Bautista and punching him in the face, which ignited a bench-clearing brawl.[99] Bautista was handed a one-game suspension by the league for his part in the melee, which he appealed.[100] On May 27, MLB announced that they had upheld the suspension.[101] During the day of his suspension, Bautista served as the public address announcer at Rogers Centre.[102] On June 17, 2016, he was placed on the 15-day disabled list due to an injury to his left big toe.[103]
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>>69476287
5× American League Player of the Month (Jul. 2010, Aug. 2010, Apr. 2011, May 2011, Jun. 2012)[25]
4× American League Player of the Week (May 16, 2010; August 1, 2010; August 29, 2010; July 3, 2011)
Esurance's MLB Award for Best Play, Offense (2015)[95]
2× Hank Aaron Award (2010, 2011)
3× Home Run Derby participant (2011, 2012, 2014)[45][58][70]
Home Run Derby Captain (2014)[70]
John Cerutti Award (2010)[33]
6× Major League Baseball All-Star (2010–15)[17][43][56][64][71][80]
2× Neil MacCarl Award (2010, 2011)[33]
3× Silver Slugger Award at outfield (2010, 2011, 2014)
Toronto Blue Jays Most Improved Player (2010)[33]

2× American League bases on balls leader (2011, 2015)
2× Major League Baseball home run leader (2010, 2011)
Major League Baseball on-base plus slugging percentage leader (2011)
Major League Baseball slugging percentage leader (2011)
Toronto Blue Jays top-ten in career on-base percentage, slugging percentage, on-base plus slugging percentage, runs scored, total bases, home runs, runs batted in, bases on balls and adjusted on-base plus slugging percentage (through 2015)[4]

Major League Baseball record for largest single-season home run increase (39 from 2009 to 2010)[29]
Toronto Blue Jays single-season most bases on balls (132 in 2011)[4]
Toronto Blue Jays single-season most home runs (54 in 2010)[27]
Toronto Blue Jays single-season most offensive WAR (8.3 in 2011)[4]
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Yo, this is spam/shitposting. Delete it.
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>>69476303
Bautista's nickname is "Joey Bats".[92] Bautista and his girlfriend Neisha Croyle had their first daughter together, Estela, born April 2011.[104][105] His second daughter, Ava, was born in November 2012.[106] In 2011 Bautista set up a program to aid athletes to have the same opportunity he had to attend American universities. Initially focused on the Dominican Republic, it has expanded to Canada.[107]
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Daily reminder that there were no Jints fans before 2010
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>>69476345
Thank you. I had nearly forgotten.
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So who is this Madison Bumgarner guy I hear so much about?

Who does he play for? Is he even good?
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Daily reminder that the Pirates willingly placed their entire 2014 season in the hands of Edinson Volquez by starting him in the 2014 NL Wild Card game.
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>>69476396
He plays for some AA team in San Jose. He won't even be good and probably won't even make it to the bigs ever.
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>>69476404
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUlFRD_yRP8
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>>69476368
>That Flag
YOU JUST CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
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>Bartolo Colon has at least six children

There's some hope for all you virgin beta faggots out there. If that obese, buddha-looking motherfucker can get his dick wet, so can you.
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>>69476368
poorly memed friend
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two same numbers decides who robs mike trout of yet another mvp this year
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>>69476492
If I can get laid, literally anybody can
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>>69476492
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>>69476513
Dolan
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>>69476515
If DG can piss on girls with daddy issues, anybody can too
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>>69474301

Can anyone explain to me how josh Donaldson hasn't Been caught juicing yet?
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>>69476513
that guy still plays?
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>>69476564
Why do you single him out? Why not literally everybody in professional sports?
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>>69476513
Who is Jose Bautista?
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>>69476513

Mark Trumbo
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>>69476581

Look at the numbers mate
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>>69476513
Lindor
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https://twitter.com/MLBcathedrals/status/752368106970882048
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>>69476598
Yeah...lots of people have great numbers...there's people with better power numbers than him, like Trumbo and Bryant
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>Bumshit doesn't get his no-hitter
>Gets a complete game shutout and lowers his ERA to below 2 anyway

WHY CAN'T THE FUCKING JINTS JUST FUCKING FAIL ALREADY WHY CAN'T HE GET FUCKING TJS FOR HIS MEME MECHANICS WHY THE FUCK IS THEIR RECORD SO GOOD WHY CAN'T WE FUCKING CATCH UP ITS NOT FUCKING FAIR WE'RE BASEBALL ROYALTY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>69476564
Him and Altuve get a pass because they're manlets
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>>69476639
jej
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>>69476516

That certainly helps, but seriously, take a good hard look at Bartolo Colon and ask yourself, "would I carry this fatfuck's child(ren) for some money?"

The answer should always be no.
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>>69476607
wat
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>>69476426

DELETE THIS
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>dis is our fookin city

what did he mean by this?
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>>69476598
his numbers improved because he changed his batting stance, his swing and his approach, its actually kind of annoying because he never decelerates his swing to improve contact, and its fucking annoying when he pops up or strikes out when we need him to just fucking put it in play

also playing in the babby stadiums of the AL east helps a bit
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>>69476599
There it is then
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>>69476682

>not ziti
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>>69476686
Did he start doing pilates
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>>69476616

I'm talking about the sharp increase in slugging , ba, home runs etc
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>>69476599

Somewhat plausible actually

>yfw Correa has already been forgotten and the bat-first SS meme is finally dying
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>>69476707
hes too rednecky for pilates, he probably doesnt even work out
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>>69476714
All natural bro he changed his stance
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>>69474975
Nigger you don't know ragsposting till you've been on /hoc/
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>>69476663
Look at his pictures when he first joined the league, dude was a stud
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>>69476680
>that bucs fan that caught the ball
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>>69476663
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>>69476714
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/josh-donaldson-has-gone-full-edwin-encarnacion/


more specifically he added a more aggressive leg kick and never decelerates his swing, he choses a zone or pitch and sits on it and that results in a ton of hard contact

he just did what tons of other guys have done or are doing, like harper, murphy, bautista, etc they simply gave up on being all field hitters, and went 100% pull putting all their power into every swing

but you can go on and continue thinking muh sterons despite nobody coming close to the numbers of the steroid era
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>>69476807

>MUH change in swing

Why doesn't everyone just do that then dumbass?
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>>69476836
because not everyone has elite power that would benefit from it you fucking retard
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>>69476836
Dude, you are on a short list of the most obnoxious posters here, no offense. He always had power. He had 24 home runs in his first full season, then 29 the next. Changed his swing, and had gained experience facing MLB pitching for a couple seasons, then added even more. Is it possible he started taking steroids, sure. I'm sure tons of players do. Other players have had power numbers increase way fucking more than Donaldson though. There's really no reason to single him out.
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Based Donaldson
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Immaculate inning to start the ASG desu
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My boy started changing his stance and he's doubled his power ever since. Just started giving it 100%. Got some real all natural gumption
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Took him to that after hours hitting coach. Taught him this new natural regimen that'll make you hit for POWER
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>>69476930
Gotta say I'm actually pretty stoked for the all star game. I haven't watched it live in a few years. It just sucks Drew Pomeranz had to kill so many national leaguers before he got selected
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>pay $$$ for opening day tickets
>get kicked out
I hate our cholo fucking fans desu
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>>69477003
Please explain this.
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>>69476900

his meteoric rise the past two seasons has been unlike any other. look at trout and harper. they dont grow by a hundred fucking points in every major category season by season like donaldson. he's also really small.
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>>69477039
Just your everyday Dodgers fan, to be honest.
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>>69477039
>mexican "people"
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>>69477054
actually meant to reply to>>69477003
but i guess this could work as well
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>>69475798

>In the book "Mickey and Willie" it's revealed how Mantle hustled Mays in this contest. Before they started rolling the film, he asked Mays if he wanted to put $500 on the outcome and Mays agreed.

>Sportswriter Charlie Einstein flew up with Willie for the show and said,"Willie thought he could hit them as far as Mickey. He couldn't, but he could hit them pretty far...I think it unnerved Willie just a bit to find out once and for all that he just couldn't hit a ball as far as Mickey."

>From the book, "In the seventh, with Willie up 8-3, Mickey passed him while going to bat and said, 'Willie, man, we out to add up the length of all these. I think my three went as far as all of yours.' Willie tried to laugh it off..."
but "Willie was now concerned not so much with winning but with matching Mickey distance for distance and he started over swinging. When they switched places for Mickey's half of the inning, Mickey said, 'You want to double that bet?'"

>Mays jumped at it. Then Mantle started hitting home runs. Willie tried too hard from that point on. Mantle got not only his $2000, but took home Willie's $1000.
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Josh Donaldson probably uses steroids.
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>>69477003
Good times
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>>69477049
harper last year added over 100 points to his OBP, 50 to his BA, almost 200 points to his SLG and doubled his homeruns from his first few seasons, when is he going to be suspended for sterons
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>>69477049
>his meteoric rise the past two seasons has been unlike any other

Confirmed for being a fucking idiot who knows nothing
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>>69477084

that little cuck probably does, but he's more of a high key player than donny. and was always really good, not just 'above average'. the guys who get busted fly under the radar, i.e. melky cabrera, dee gordon, bartolo COLON, etc.
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>>69477096

say that to my face not online
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>>69477117
>everyone who hits 40 homeruns is on steroids

you realize during the actual steroid era guys were blowing past 40 homeruns like it was nothing and players today are more athletic and educated than back then.
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>>69477163

i'm just saying. look at who's getting busted for steroids. it would not surprise me in the least if josh donaldson was next.

not like ryan braun was putting up 40 jacks when he was caught
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>>69477186
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>>69477186
>not like ryan braun was putting up 40 jacks when he was caught
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>>69477186
>look at who's getting busted for steroids

>a dozen shit minor leaguers on the verge of being released from their teams and losing any hope of making it as professional players
>dee gordon who was a weak as shit slap hitter and got himself a nice payday contract
>colabello who played independent leagues for a decade and was going to miss out on ever playing in the majors

yeah desperate players with no other options are getting busted, not guys who can have long term careers, someone like braun is the exception hes just an idiot
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>>69477319

honestly im just impressed. you clearly missed my point but nice pic
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>>69477108
>that angels fan talking about steroids while mike trouts neck doubles in circumference every season

wew lad
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It's dumb to accuse any great hitter who happens to have some muscle mass of being on steroids.

Aside from the few well known fatties, Baseball players are now taking on more sophisticated strength and conditioning regimes than in years past.

A quote from a physicist who studied the potential effects steroids can have on power:

"The 10 percent increase in muscle mass helps a batter swing five percent faster, increasing the speed of the ball leaving the bat by four percent. This extra speed, applied to a model distribution of trajectories, could result in 50 percent more home runs, Tobin found."

"Tobin cautions, however, that the increased muscle mass could also be obtained through legitimate means such as weightlifting, and that other factors such as changes to ballpark dimensions and league dynamics could also account for an increase in homers. He notes, however, that none of those factors are timed to the home run explosion of the 1990s."

Another big factor is the improve analysis and teaching of swing mechanics. In the good old days, a player would pretty much stick to the same mechanics throughout his career and hitting coaches were more like babysitters than "coaches." Now it's down to something of a science, and players are constantly tweaking and studying film of opposing pitchers like an NFL QB might study a defense. Someone like Daniel Murphy absorbs film on opposing pitchers, for instance.

There's probably a few cheaters, indeed, by as the Canadian poster said, it's more likely among lower tier players trying to stay or break into the league.
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>>69477003
>that cheeky guard copping a feel
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>>69477519

Further point:

>During the past decade, advanced video analysis and computer graphics have brought a far more empirical approach. Biomechanists, who analyze biological issues using principles of mechanics, physicists and the most tech-savvy batting coaches are beginning truly to understand the mechanics of the optimal batting swing.
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>>69477003
>tfw no drunk mess qt LA beaner gf
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>>69474462
Why are you calling them KCR? Just say Royals. Jesus fuck.
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>>69477003
>STOP RESISTING
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>>69477003
>>69477039
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>>69474925
I'm actually pleasantly surprised. I figured they'd be above .500, but I didn't see them at the top of the division by the ASG.
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>>69475386
>he doesn't dip Club crackers in his beer
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>>69474348
>rags
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>>69474301
Madison and his prized hog.

That one won first prize at the county fair.
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>>69474435
>ywf like half of those are Kershaw's
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>>69474646
depends on how long you've been pitching.
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Sup M's bros

Who do we dislike more, Mike Trout or >rags
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>>69477003
>s-s-shes mexican

shes white...lel
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>>69474435
How many of those have been Kershaw's?
kek bumshit has already accepted his place as the forever #2, if that at all...
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Sup /mlb/

I went to Felix's rehab start today, and got to see Kyle Lewis hit the walkoff.
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>>69479378
de walk off
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What's in the bottle?
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>>69480465

pilates
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>>69480465
Ramune.
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>world series
>only US teams + one Canadian
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>>69481021
Here's your (You)

MLB teams are comprised of the best of the best players from around the world.
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>>69481048
European/South American soccer teams are known for the best players in the world (Europe more)
But still, in the soccer club world cup there is an African team, an Asian team and even an Oceania team
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>>69481113

the world series is not a world cup. the closest thing to that is the world baseball classic. the world series was named after a newspaper >100 years ago
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>>69481113
Soccer is the most popular sport on the planet, and has many different leagues and many different tournaments for said leagues.

You're trying to prove the point that an apple would beat an orange in a "Tastes like an apple" contest
>>
I think the Nationals are winning the world series this year.
>>
How important should WAR be in determine who wins the MVP?
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>>69481272

how important should it be? very important

how important is it? not very important
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>>69481272
it should be the sole decider of who wins MVP, its literally a calculation of who contributes the most to a team
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>>69481321
I wouldn't say it should be the only stat, however it should definitely be the most important. You have to take other stats into consideration as well.
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>be non boreball fag
>wake up
>check paper spee
>see this
>rags
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>statically speaking, the astros have the best bullpen in the AL
Wew lad I did not see that coming
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>>69481321
It's an approximation though
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>>69474301
>tfw no more joba
>tfw Salazar isn't pitching in the asg
>tfw we lost to the stankees
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>page 5
>literally no baseball
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>>69474435
>reminder that 2 of those 5 were Indians pitchers
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>>69475887
Kenny played 1 season with the stankees
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Moncada looks better than Bogaerts did at the same age, thats pretty fucking scary
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>>69485483
Fucking bastards you were supposed to sweep us so Cashman could make a dank trade for some good prospects.
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>>69481321
No it shouldn't. A guy who hits .300 with 30 home runs and 100 RBI on a team that just sneaks into the playoffs is more valuable to his team than a guy who hits .325/40/125 on a team that loses 90 games.
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>tfw I had hope for this team

Why did they do this to me?

I guess though going into the ASB with a winning record means it's not over just yet so I guess there's still some hope left.
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>>69485647
That makes no sense.
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>>69485647
"valuable" is bullshit. Should just go to the best player. The rest of the team sucking shouldn't prevent a guy from winning the award
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>>69485681
It doesn't. Some retards are just trying to make a point of contention where there is none.
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>tfw no baseball
are we gonna make it, bros?
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>>69485670
>mfw the exact same feel for the Mariners
It was supposed to be our year
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>>69481272

>he takes sabermetrics seriously
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>>69485764
No
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>>69485764
Nope. Everyone posting in this thread will be dead by tomorrow.

Trust me, I'm a Jew.
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>>69485539
I'm almost positive that isn't even true

Greinke just did it last year, Kershaw has done it, almost guranteed Koufax and Bob Gibson have done it, also Greg Maddux. I'm sure there's others too
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>>69485647
>Giving raw numbers *your* situational weight but rejecting *their* weighting
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>>69474895
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>>69485827
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>>69485681
Player A's team doesn't make the playoffs without him. Player B's team is still garbage with him on the team. How is player A not more valuable?

>>69485692
Change the name of the award then.
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Is baseball your guys' favorite sport?
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>>69486011
Yes
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>>69485889
Addie joss did it, Bob feller did it cy young did if we aren't talking about just expansion era
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>>69485989
Better players help teams win more games, which means they have more value. It's very simple. Having other good players on a team doesn't make that player more valuable
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>>69485989
>Change the name of the award
Why? It has always gone to the best player. Not some meme guy who has the best war, which it's formula is still up to debate.
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>>69486011
Yep, I always get happier when Spring Training starts. Then I go see my team play and I get depressed again, but still better than when there is no baseball.
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>>69486067
t. phillies fan
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>>69485989
You're applying an arbitrary outcome as a necessity for "value" to exist, which is nonsense. Why stop at playoffs? Why not go all the way and say that "value" only exists if it leads to a world series win? There's nothing worthwhile whatsoever about making the playoffs and not winning, after all.
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>>69486039
What I meant is that the post you responded to probably isn't true. I can't find anywhere to check era's by the all star break though, so I don't know how many players have done it
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>>69486039
>cy young did

p sure there were no all star breaks during Cy Young's career
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>>69486011
Resounding hell yes
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>>69486100
>Why stop at playoffs?
Because it's a regular season award.
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>>69485794
>dismissing something without providing an alternative
Opinion discarded
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>>69486110
Exactly, it started in 1933
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>>69486100
You are a genuine retard. The mvp and Cy Young are regular season awards. You ultra dumb fuck.
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>>69486136
>>69486160
So what you're saying is that you think postseasons should have nothing to do with the award, and that limiting MVPs to teams who make the playoffs is stupid. Hey, I agree. Good talk.
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>>69486011
Yes
otherwise, why else would I be an A's fan?
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>>69486011
I am more /hoc/ because of fighting and LA having a dynasty but I still watch 70 dodger games a year
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>>69485889
http://bbref.com/pi/shareit/xf0qf

I think this is adequate for what you're looking for. Innings pitched varies too much so I just set it to 100
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>>69486193
I don't think that postseason should have nothing to do with the award, I state that the award does in fact have nothing to do with the postseason because it is a REGULAR season award.

You are so dumb it's like someone telling you 1+1=2 and youre right now going NUH UH I THINK 1+1 EQUALS 3.

How do people like you even get access to the internet?
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>>69486312
Why did you type this response out? I just established we reached an agreement and all you did was reinforce that while posting more nonsense.
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>>69486193
What are you even talking about? The playoffs themselves have nothing to do with the award. Getting there is a pretty big part of it.

For the record I don't think the MVP always has to come from a playoff team either.
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>>69486297
and all-time, pre all-star game

http://bbref.com/pi/shareit/fqFba
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>>69486372
You're contradicting yourself.
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>>69486360
>Gay area
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>>69486297
Thanks

Leafs confirmed to be liars and full of shit
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>>69486407
okay
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>>69474571
fukn lmao

still assblasted about the klub cy young

get rekt faggot
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>>69486659
Ill be honest I wasn't sold on kluber before but I sure as shit am now. He's so underrated and incrediblely consistent.
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Honest question in good faith. Not trolling.

How come when a player joins the Toronto Blue Jays their power hitting stats are all remarkably better than they were with their old teams? Are the Toronto Blue Jays that good at teaching hitters how to hit for power?

I know that there is a culture of steroids in that ballclub, with some Toronto Blue Jays getting busted for using steroids in this season. But does it extend to -every- player? Look at Josh Donaldson. His power stats have profoundly increased since joining the Toronto Blue Jays. It can't just be a coincidence, can it?
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>>69486688
>consistent
no

>underrated


yes
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Cueto and sale are the starters tomorrow

Lgtss
>pilates man
Lmao
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>>69486690
Are you retarded? It's the ballpark. All AL east ballparks are small which inflates stats.
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shit nl lineup tbqh

lmao

>terry cuklins
>mest
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>>69486044
This desu. The argument for WAR would be a lot more solid if there was a unanimous formula to determine it.
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>>69486757
This desu
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>Chris "5.56 ERA in last 9 starts" Sale
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>>69486137

>what are the traditional stats
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>>69487174
T. debbie downer whos fan
>>
>Ortiz's jersey is the top selling
>buying the jersey of someone who will be gone next season
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>>69487221
Boston """"fans""""
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>>69486407

no he isn't. you can be kershit and be amazing during the regular season but blow donkey dicks during the playoffs and still win and deserve MVP. who wins MVP is determined by how you play in the regular season, but a player is more likely to win it if hes a driving force behind his team making the playoffs, hence being valuable to your team
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Madison Bumgarner is the best pitcher in the league
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>tfw no real baseball until Friday

just kill me already
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>>69486360
Of course it happened in the East Bay.
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>>69487297
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If the Jints get cucked in the playoffs will they fuck off forever like Warriors "fans"?
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>>69486690
A. It is an indoor stadium
B. It is small

Those two facts, alone, are why the Blow Gays have a high HR count.
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Post your All Stars
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>>69487483
Surprisingly rogers center is 16th this year and was 15th lastyear. But then in 2014 it was 3rd.
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>mfw the blaze win the cal league north
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Ayyyy /mlb/ what it do?

Whew the rough stretch is over for America's Team The Texas Rangers. 9 losses out of their last 12 games and finish at 54-35. Damn. But then again the Rangers did play 37 games in 38 days, and 20 of them were on the road, and there was that game against New York that went until 3:15am because I of rain delay. But good news is the All Star break is here and the Rangers get an Extra day off before they play the Cubbies. So despite that rough finish to the 2nd half and losing ground to be only 5 1/2 games above the resurgence of the Astros, there are lots of great things to take away from you American League Leading Texas Rangers first half. Yu Darvish and Keane Kela are scheduled to be back before the season resumes. This is major news considering after the Rangers had 4 of their starting pitchers to hit the DL around the same time no one they brought up nor Hamels could go over 5 innings which exhausted the bullpen. The Pitching is going to get a much needed boost when they get back. Ian Desmond, This dude turned down how much more money to play for the Rangers? .322 batting average, .375 OBP, .899 OPS. Beast.
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>>69487742
Rangers have the WS on lock, don't worry about little bumps in the road. The league threw their best at us, and all they could do was slow us down a little. We're winning 60 after the All-Star break without question.
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>>69487376
Why would they do that?
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>>69487742
You are so fucking autistic
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Who /National League/ here?
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>>69487837
Not so fast chump you don't get free outs in the ASG this year
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>>69487851
Why not?
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>>69487837
>tfw leading it
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>>69487869
>why not
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>>69487837
senpai
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>>69487917

>liking fit girls

shit taste senpai
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Johnny Cueto and Chris Sale to start the all star game
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>>69487932
>flabby ass
>fit
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Who you got for the derby tonight? I gotta go with Cano desu.
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>>69487944
>can0
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>>69487944
Seager unless it means he will regress like PEDerson last year
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>>69487939
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>>69487944

>Who is Giancarlo Stanton?
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any of you guys ever search through Cueto's instagram? it is without a doubt one of the more random places on the entire internet.
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>>69488111
Boudoir photos are not random, Anon. Cueto's doing it for the ladies.
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>>69488111

>@JoseCanseco on twitter
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Just?
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>>69488149
Canseco is legit insane he just has the money to pay a tard handler around him 24/7
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>>69488186
this is why Kris Bryant is the best Las Vegas-born player
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>>69488186
This haircut is hype as fuck dipshit.
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>>69488371
t. Bryce Harper
>>
>>69488371
Le Donaldo JUST
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>>69488371
>france
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>>69488186
It's better than the Elsa shit he had going on before
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>HR Derby not on mlb.tv

smhtbhfam
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>>69488371
It's not.

t. Trendy American Youth

>>69488500
Donaldson was the one with the Elsa shit. That actually looked good.
>>
Reply to this post if your team has signed their first round pick(s)

Not so fast
>Mest
>Red cux
>Marlels
Fans
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>>69488717
Harper had the Elsa haircut too, and both of their hairstyles are shit
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>>69488186
Reminder that Bryce Harper is batting .256
>>
So we can all agree the NL has no chance in the game, right?
>>
>Vin Scully and Ronald Reagan in the booth
now we're stuck with Joe Buck and Harold Reynolds
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>>69488880
Only if Julio Teheran pitches his absolute best, hopefully.
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>>69488612
Fuck seriously?

Fuck

That's fucking homosexual
>>
Who /BACKBACKBACKBACKBACK/ here?
>>
>>69488819
?
http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/mets-introduce-top-pick-justin-dunn-from-freeport-1.11948796
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>>69488985
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>>69487327
as opposed to A's/Giants fans sucking eachother in SF?
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>mfw Chris sale wins one for da south side
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>>69486360
http://youtu.be/hT-ya_jFPQI
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Redpill me on your team, and whether they are buyers and sellers.

>Mets
>Buyers
>Need consistent offense. The pitching is statistically top 3 in MLB. But its frustrating as fuck getting 1 hit over and over again. Need Duda and Wright back. Conforto to get back up here.
>>
>By this method, practically every All-Star team would be predicted to have a winning record, and the average All-Star squad would be predicted to win 73.4 percent of its games. In a 162-game schedule a .734 winning percentage would lead to 120 wins, a feat no real-life team has ever achieved. And that’s just the average; the very best All-Star teams — the top 10 percent — would be predicted to win more than 81 percent of their games, or 132 contests in a regular season.

>I can, of course, take things a step further and assemble the all-time greatest All-Star team. By assembling the greatest single-season performances at each position throughout history, I can build a team with almost 137 WAR, more than 50 percent better than the greatest single All-Star team ever. This team — with Lou Gehrig from 1934 manning first base, Barry Bonds from 2002 in the outfield, and ’99 Pedro Martinez sharing a rotation with ’72 Steve Carlton — would be predicted to win 96.8 percent of its games, becoming the first 157-game winner. With a lot of luck, it could eke out an undefeated regular season, but even for them it would be far from a certainty. (According to the binomial distribution, it would happen once every 200 or so seasons.)

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/would-baseballs-all-time-all-star-team-go-162-0/
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>>69489516
I will LITERALLY kill myself if a team goes 162-0
Out of sheer respect desu

I don't think it's possible, but I'd honor my pact.
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>>69489516
Damn that would be one great team.
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>>69489597
Post your full name and address so we hold you to this.
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>>69489607
thank you for that insight, I would have never came to that conclusion on my own
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>>69489644
You are very welcome, friend.
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>>69486011
yes
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>>69489516

>538
>nate bronze
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>>69489888
It's Nate Pewter now, anon. Carl Diggler refused to stop cockslapping him
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>>69489899
Fidrych would have been a great pitcher had he stayed healthy.
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>>69489899
so based of that there's a 50% chance his career get BTFO by injuries
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>>69489999
Delete this now.
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>>69489516
Sounds about like the 2016 Rangers, honestly.
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>>69490060
>rags
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>>69490060
>raaaaaaaaaags
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>>69489477
White Sox

Should be sellers
Will be buyers

Kenrick's wild ride never ends
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dunno which exact players that author chose but this team is worth 150.5 WAR and would be expected to win 105.35% of their games
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>>69490264
>those fucking starters

also most of those players wouldn't even make a major league team in the year 2016
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>>69487221
I'm glad I got mine years ago. I'm gonna miss him
>>
>>69489477
>blue jays
>buyers
>need at least one more genuine good reliever to bridge the gap to osuna
>need bautista to put his ego aside and DH so carerra can stay in the outfield and smoak can fuck off
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>>69490353
this meme sucks
>>
so will trout go with the corvette or the truck this time around after winning yet another asg mvp
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>>69490375
Do you trust EE at first though? I mean he's adequate but I'm more so worried about injuries.
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hello why aren't donaldson and EE in the home run derby?????????????
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>>69490486
They turned it down.
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>>69477003
And this is why you don't sit in the nosebleed seats or bleachers at Dodger Stadium.
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>>69490505
Too bad Pilates doesn't stop you from balding.
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POST UR HRD PICKS

Round 1 - Mark Trumbo (1) vs. Corey Seager (8)
Matchup Winner: Mark Trumbo
Round 1 - Robinson Cano (4) vs. Giancarlo Stanton (5)
Matchup Winner: Giancarlo Stanton
Round 1 - Adam Duvall (3) vs. Wil Myers (6)
Matchup Winner: Adam Duvall
Round 1 - Todd Frazier (2) vs. Carlos Gonzalez (7)
Matchup Winner: Todd Frazier

Round 2 - Winner of 1/8 vs. Winner of 4/5
Matchup Winner: Mark Trumbo
Round 2 - Winner of 3/6 vs. Winner of 2/7
Matchup Winner: Adam Duvall

Round 3 -
Champion: Mark Trumbo
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quick /sp/

who you got for the dinger party?
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>>69490264
you should try and make a team from after the deadball era started at least
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pretty disappointed MLB.tv is carrying the ASG tomorrow but not the HRD
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>>69490587
>>69490619

my bad u already set it up man

trumbo
stanton
duval
gonzalez

stanton
i dont know, want duval just because he's new, but wouldnt be mad if gonzalez wins

duval or gonzalez gonna take the whole thing tho
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>>69490412
hes been fine there and actually made some amazing defensive stops occasionally this season

all i know is having smoak hit .150 and striking out 30% of the time as a starter isnt acceptable if we are actually going to push for playoffs this year
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>>69490762
I get all that but EE is prone to injuries and playing first base every night significantly increases that.
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>>69490807
so put him at DH every couple games then, carerra is a borderline career bench player and wont mind sitting out every so often, i dont care dude im fucking sick of watching smoak strike out on 4 pitches every fucking plate appearance
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>>69490842
I'm with you smoak isn't a starter. Im just not sold on this solution. You also try Bautista at first.
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>>69490619
Robbie.

He's already matched his donger total from last year
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>Chris Sale: "There's really no repercussions that come from this game other than just having fun and competing."

>Chris Sale: "There's really no repercussions that come from this game other than just having fun and competing."

>Chris Sale: "There's really no repercussions that come from this game other than just having fun and competing."
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>>69491175
Wheres the tongue-in-cheek photo that's associated with this quote? Where? WHERE?
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>>69491175
He knows the sox have 0% chance to the eries and he's taking down the rest of the AL with him
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>>69491175
>white sox
>postseason

for him personally, he's not wrong
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>>69488126
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How the fuck do we stop the jints!?
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ready to back back back back back that ass up?
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Who will the reds trade Bruce to? Will we get a decent return?
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All memes aside, I think it's a little disappointing that Kershaw and Bumgarner won't be pitching in the ASG, but I think it's cool that it's opened up some opportunities for other pitchers to get to pitch. Cueto, Arrieta, Teheran, and Pomeranz haven't pitched in an all star game yet and might get an opportunity
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>>69491537
meme the marlins into the playoffs
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>>69491175
Sale knows how the sox season will end so why not have fun while it lasts
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HRD poll

http://www.strawpoll.me/10724357
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ayo f.am what time does the derby start? i gotta go get a carwash and some groceries and don't wanna miss it
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>>69491683
2 hours from now
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>>69491683
Use a fucking TV guide you worthless faggot
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>>69491719

I'll kick your fucking ass family
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OFFICIAL ASG EVENTS POWER RANKING

1. Celebrity Softball game
2. the game itself
3. Home Run derby
4. Futures game

9001. media day/fan fest/anything else
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>>69491773

homerun derby was based as fuck last year. hopefully they haven't changed the format cuz that was the most exciting part of the asg festivities.
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>>69491537
according to Pythagorean theorem they should regress a bit in the 2nd half of the season along with the >rags, not collapse but they wont stay this hot for long term as they are overachieving considering the runs scored/allowed

>inb4 muh math and years of historical statistical data is irrelevant because muh blatant fan bias
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Based Petco
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Wait is everyone going to be playing in those based as fuck padre throwback uni's? thats pretty rad
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>>69491906
Nl west is objectively the goat division sans those retarded mexican fucks in LA
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>>69491956
This. Fuck LA
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>>69491956

u bang essay?
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bruh what the fuck is with these unis
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>>69491887
>inb4 muh math and years of historical statistical data is irrelevant because muh blatant fan bias

Dude, shut up. I've been saying they'll win about 95-96 games for months. I had never even seen a Pythagorean projection for this season, but I did it just now and it's around 96 games they're projected to win, which is kind of weird lol. They're schedule is also going to be a bit tougher in the second half, so yeah, I still think they'll win about 95 games
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>>69487354
>More innings pitched in the WS
>Still a lower ERA

Who are some other players that hit this kind of level in big time games?
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>>69492110
based as fuck 70's-80's dads uni's m8
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>>69492122
my point is the overachieved a bit in the first half of the season so they will regress a bit inevitably

im not sure if you're just trying to trigger dodgers fans or something but yeah the gints are eventually going to slow down
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>>69492151
Pretty much no one has come close to bumgarner in the ws. Hes basically on an entire different level
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>>69492201
Yeah you fucking retard that's what I'm saying. Are you fucking dumb? I'm saying right now that they'll win about 95 games are projected to win 96, even though they're on pace to win 102-103 games. That's regression. I'm saying they'll regress. What the fuck don't you understand?
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Harper just BTFO of Kershaw
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>>69492284
why are you so angry man we dont need to escalate this any further
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>>69474301
What the fuck? He's not great looking himself but he could do so much better.
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btw there's no baseball today just wanted to let you all know
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>>69492315
Because you're acting like I'm some stupid illogical fan when I've been saying for the months leading up to the present day that they'll win the amount they're projected to win and agreeing with what you said
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>>69492388
but we essentially agree on the same thing, stop fighting me and accept my love
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>>69491906
kek, why
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/condor/
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>>69492464
if we dont sign him to an extension i hope he goes back to seattle
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>>69491887
Pythagorean projections are pretty irrelevant though, the season isn't long enough for things to normalize, and division winners having a worse run differential than teams behind them is super common. There have even been division winners with negative run differentials (2007 Diamondbacks for example). And you're not even talking about a full season here, you're talking about 70 games.
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>his team's battery isn't starting in the ASG
Explain yourself, /mlb/.
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>>69492593
>not having your whole infield starting
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Teams should only send one player as a starter to the ASG, which would be decided by whomever was most voted for. Assume that, by vote count, every position for the ASG team is won by Team A players, only the player with the most votes is selected and all other positions go to the player with the second highest amount of votes on other teams. If two or more players in this tier are from the same team, the player with the most votes is chosen and the other positions are taken by the player with the third highest vote count.
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>>69492593
jewish conspiracy
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>>69492593
I wish my team had a catcher good enough that I could confidently call him and any pitcher a "battery." This faggot is more like one of those potato lights.
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>>69492593
I don't own a team
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>>69492630
Reminds of a couple years ago in basketball whe the Eastern starters were the Atlanta Hawks + Lebron, like how shit is your conference?
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>>69492639
>fan voting
>but not really, you can't pick 2 people from the same team
how about instead we have team owners act as super delegates with 1,000,000 votes each
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DUDE
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>>69492707
If it was actual skill it'd be one thing, but it was literally just ballot stuffing
Like, there are at least three better shortstops than fucking Russel

>>69492737
Harper has the douchiest face I've ever laid eyes upon
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>>69492737
STRIKE
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>>69492710
>implying autistic bandwagoneers making fake e-mails to spam the entire Royals/Cubs/whoever team into the ASG is acceptable by any standard
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PETCO is looking beautiful
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>>69492931
then take away fan voting as a whole

either have it or don't have it, none of this illusions of democracy shit
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Don't ever talk to me or my wife's son ever again.
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>>69492984
Kek
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Fan voting is undeniably terrible because people normally only watch their teams games. This isn't the NFL where you watch a majority of the games. This isn't basketball where your team only plays 4 days a week and you can check out late/early games of ESPN/TNT. The teams that are heavily bandwagon-ed end up getting a good deal of the votes as opposed to the guys who deserve it.
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>>69492630
>collapsing team in charge of the ASG
thanks for giving the AL another free win faggot
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>>69492984
>MVP candidate is a literal manlet
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Hey AL can you win the All Star game so the Rangers can get home field for the World Series? Thanks?

- signed owner of /mlbg/ and best trip
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>>69493111
>rags
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>>69493080
>mfw Jake Pilatietta blows the game for >us

Who do you guys think will pitch though?

Obviously Cueto already is. Arrieta probably will because he won the Cy Young last year. I think Pomeranz will because they're in San Diego. Dunno who else
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>rags
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>>69493080
Not like the ws home field ever mattered to the cusb anyway
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>>69493134
Yes? Got something to say or you just gonna meme like a casual?
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>Go .500 rest of season
>93 Wins
who can stop us
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>>69493151
>You got something to say?

Yes I do.

>ONE
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>>69493151
>rags
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all of you bitches on here are a bunch of cocksucker no-lifes

fuck your shitty ass sport and RIM ME

quit stealing our memes

sincerely /hoc/
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>>69493185
who?
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>>69493176
>living in the past

Get into the present you casual
>>
Completely forgot that Rizzo was once a Padre
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>>69493140
Fernandez
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>>69493185
Furpuck is shit
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>>69492649
you take that back, donuts is a treasured mascot
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>>69493185
>pedosota mild
>furpuck
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>>69493151
ONE
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>>69493234
>>69493234
>>69493234
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>>69493201
woowee look at that drop

>rags
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>>69490587

stanton will win
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>>69492766

I think Rizzo and Bryant both deserve to be in, but Zobrist and Russell were factors of ballot stuffing
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>>69493406
You can justify Zobrist being there, but he's still marginal. Russell definitely shouldn't be in though
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>>69493313
Hahahaha get fuged Angels
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>>69486011
by far
>>
chris berman thinks the shtick is something that is beloved by all right?
>>
elbow/shoulder
elbow/arm fatigue
elbow
good
fat
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