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>>68930034
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Steve Nash>Steph Curry
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>>68930135
Is MCW and Trey still relevant
I havent heard anything about them?
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>>68930151
Injuries, Injuries and shit
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Whats going on with London? Are they going to launch an NBA or Euroleague team?
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>>68930200
>London
>Euro anything
kys

they can start a commonwealth team
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>>68930200
>Euro
keked
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Paul/Rivers
Redick/Smart
Durant/Brown
Crowder/Johnson
Jordan/Aldrich
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>>68930205

You never heard of travel and work visas huh.

I bet you a team in London would get good players
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>Metta World Peace says it was emotional to see Cavs win, remembers playing with LeBron and MJ

>A day after the game, he declared this past season to be the NBA’s greatest ever.

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/06/metta-world-peace-cavaliers-lebron-michael-jordan-championship
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>>68930295
i thought Artest changed his name again and it was Chinese or Panda related
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>>68930034
She's not even going to make that
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>DeAndre Jordan has 2 of the best FG% seasons of all-time
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>>68930454
>b-but boogie deserved 1st team
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>Michael Jordan 3rd pick in the draft
>Jaylen Brown 3rd pick in the draft

Coincidence?
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>>68930464
>>68930475
i'd laforce my penis into her body orifices if you catch my drift
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Kristen Ledlow is best girl desu
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>i am a professional athlete getting paid millions of dollars and the only skill i have is that i can jump really high
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>>68930480
>Adam Morrison 3rd pick in the draft
>Jaylen brown 3rd pick in the draft

Coincidence?
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>>68930034
>>68930460
>>68930464
>>68930475
nice coalburner

>brown people's sport
l m a o
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>>68930511
2 rings bitch
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>>68930508
Lucky fuck, I would like to live life being stupid but so athletically gifted and being 7 foot thus allowing me to get paid millions and live life on cruise control
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>ywn holiday in Italy with your buddy Chandler Parsons and fuck hot bitches
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>>68930508
That's literally athletics desu
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Can Deandre Jordan score on his own without being assisted by Chris Paul?
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>>68930588
Yeah, put backs.
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>>68930588
78% of his shots are assisted
40% of his shots are assisted by CP3
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Is Joel Embiid alive?
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>>68930567
Does he still hang out with DeAndre Jordan?
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>DeAndre Jordan will be an Olympian Gold Medalist
>1st team All-NBA
>3rd team All-NBA
>2x 1st team All-NBA Defense
>One of the greatest 2nd round draft picks of all-time

>>68930622
>
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>>68930508
>you will never make 20 million american dollars every single year despite not being able to do something twig armed prepubescent children are capable of doing
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>>68930600
>>68930610
but can he actually shoot or get to the post by himself?
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>>68930685
Absolutely not.
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>>68930685
https://youtu.be/pMcHZhZLxdQ

https://youtu.be/3DOXbTT-MDM
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>>68930716
lmao
his form is actually not that bad on those
if he can actually pick up shooting he'll be goat
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>>68930716
HAHAHA
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>>68930741
I do not remember that 3 from this year lmao
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>>68930819
sure this is from this season?
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what did he mean by this?
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>>68930819
>>68930838
Definitely a last-second heave.
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I'd laforce myself on her if you know what I'm saying
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>>68930818
COINCIDENCE?
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>>68930838
Maybe messed up data
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>>68930819
>>68930838
WHAT THE FUCK DOES HE EVEN DO DURING WARM-UPS? jesus christ
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>>68930947
Be really really really effective at what he's good at
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>>68931003
is it jumping really high?
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>>68930947
no idea, it works though
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>>68931029
Defense, pick and roll, finishing at the rim, rebounding

I guess it's just a bonus he's athletic since he has a 9 feet 5.5 inch standing reach

Also his max vert at the combine was 30.5 inches and Kevin Love's was 35
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>>68931042
omg did he died?
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>>68931042
never got why dunking over a guard made people go so apeshit. props to knight for challenging him.
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>>68931206
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>>68930705
SHE'S NOT EVEN THAT HOT
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>>68931269
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK5yAukwpBw
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>>68931356
Solid 8.5 qt
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>>68931390
that shit had better fucking counted
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>>68930856
Coach Thibs is playing minesweeper while everyone else is playing minecraft
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#Knickstape #Swag #ComeHomeJRShump #CoachHorny #FvckChandler
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>>68931537
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It's happening.
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>kevin durant is coming home to play for the San Antonio Spurs
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>>68931903
*isn't, it's too early

>>68931906
can rose get that off in a knicks jersey?
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>>68931990
that was a weird game. I caught it half way through on league pass on my ipad cus of notifications while I was making dinner
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>>68931990
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nyBpt9tRsg
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>>68931906
based delly forcing the fadeaway
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>>68930511
>Paul George was the 10th pick in the draft
>Thon Maker 10th pick in the draft

Coincidence?
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do yoy guys think thon maker is really 19? or 23? some anon posted a yerabook with people that were suppoedly 23 now
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>>68932566
Tfw bucks fan. He better be 19 sempai
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>>68933473
Believe
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So almost been a week. How did they do it lads???
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>>68932566
No. and I don't think it really matters to teams that take fliers on africa-upsiders. If he pans out, he'll be in his prime when he signs his second deal. the team that will worry is whoever signs/trades for him in 9 years from now
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>>68933661
Lebron baited a hothead, silver smiled and rubbed his hands.
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>>68933661
>don't exhaust yourself in the reg season
>play tough defense on the Splash Bros
>have the GOAT GOATing it up for you
>have Kyrie unleashing his true potential
>TT the ball magnet killing the small-ball meme
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>Knicks have a meeting with Durant
>he and Melo have been renting out gyms to themselves and getting dinner together

How much more confirmed can it get??
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>>68934444
>Knicks have a meeting with Durant
Nobody is saying Knicks have a meeting with Durant. Nice try.
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>>68934444
He desperate now
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>>68934444
Shit those digits
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Knicks are fast becoming the most delusional fanbase on /NBA/

As if the corpse of Derrick Rose makes their lottery team a contender for Durant.. PLEASE.
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>>68934521
Tommy Dee (Knicks insider) confirmed yesterday on twitter, then did a followup on periscope. Durant has already confirmed with the organization that he wants to meet on/around July 1st.
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>>68934800
No source on the internet is confirming this. Your homer knicks reporter saying it doesn't mean shit.

Every site says they "might" get a meeting, but that's nothing. They aren't on the short list.
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>>68934721
Lance Thomas is Durant's favorite player in the league, while reports are that both Nike and Durant's agent are pushing him to sign there for marketing purposes.
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>>68934932
"Marketing purposes" aren't going to get Durant to NY. He wants to be the man while having a chance to win. Teaming up on Melo and Rose's lottery team ain't going to win him shit.
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>>68934920
>No source on the internet is confirming this.
>literally just said that a source has confirmed it
>b-but it doesn't count! there's no way someone who the Knicks organization communicates with could hear about something within the Knicks organization
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>>68934444
The quads confirm it

We dynasty
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>>68933656
has mallory been BLACKED?
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>>68935032
Some homer local reporter for the Knicks isn't confirmation, kiddo.
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>>68935016
Anon, it's okay. Not everyone can have a team with 4 superstars and championship aspirations. And they don't have to. You keep doing you and be proud of what your team is building. We'll be done dominating in another 10 years or so, and then it'll be your time. Keep that chin up.
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>>68935120
>Adding the corpse of Derrick Rose to a lottery team makes them "a team with 4 superstars and championship aspirations"
HOLY FUCK the knicks delusion is real
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>tfw Buddy era in Nawlins starts
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>>68935120
1 if you get Durant
Melo and DRose not superstars anymore (Melo not top 5 in his position and DRose maybe like top 20 idk lmao)
Porzingis not there yet
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Why are people so jealous of the knicks? Its obvious we're getting Durant and winning the title next year. Just stop and let it happen
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>>68935195
I'm here for you buddy, everything's gonna be just fine.
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>>68935255
that... that doesn't look legal
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FeelsBadMan I wish >my Blazers had a realistic shot at landing some of the top FAs. Buttttt no one wants to come to Portland even though they getting a good team together :(

Pls Based Dame/CJ/Moe Hark carry us to the promise land.
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>>68930200
london is falling apart at the seams

you guys might not see me around much longer, just want to say it was fun while it lasted
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>>68935279
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>>68935317
london should be a civ 5 city state IMHO
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>>68935284
kiddo, Derrick Rose might get you 5 extra wins at best. He's finished. Your team is hitching their wagon to a zombie.
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>>68935282
I can't blame them, it's intimidating. Rosters aren't supposed to get this stacked this quickly and not everyone can adjust.
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>>68935383
Relax, I promise we'll at least let you look at the ring. It'll give your team something to strive for.
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>>68935317
>UK not the financial and economic gateway to europe anymore
>global finance flocks to frankfurt
>anschutz building a new 15k arena
we dynasty now

just give us an NBA franchise already
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I'm gonna be laughing mid-season when the Knicks are under .500 and Rose has played 25% of the games at best.
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>>68933473
I know it wasn't the best draft for it, but I can't believe they didn't make more of an effort to trade down a few slots. I can't imagine anyone else had him quite that high. Hell, I still suspect a fair number of GMs wouldn't have taken him before 25 or so.

Guess he's a good fit though. Milwaukee would probably be happy just to have a long, athletic big to plug into their defensive system.
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>>68935339
Enlighten me, except Durant (assuming you're getting him), what superstars do you have.

I'll admit I haven't watched the Knicks too much last season but LeBron, PG, Kawhi, Durant and Giannis are all surely better than Melo.

Porzingis isn't even top 3 rookies

Rose is fine, but not elite in his position (inb4 le p good 3 months)
Curry
Westbrrok
CP3
Kyrie
Wall
Dame
Lowry
IT
Conley
Teague
GHill
Kemba
Rubio

are all better
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I think if Durant tries to ring chase with the Spuds or Warriors then it's going to fail. Spuds don't have the depth and should be in a rebuild phase and the Warriors won't be able to have depth if they sign Durant.
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>>68935812
he's going to stay, but for pure hypothetical ring chasing theres no doubt cavs would be best
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>>68935600
>Giannis
There is a massive gap between Melo and Giannis, in Melo's favor. He still has zero game away from the rim, is an average rebounder for his position/size, and his passing isn't nearly as good as the raw numbers suggest. He can still only convert very basic, direct passes that aren't going to be as effective with a scouting report out. Even playing more minutes, he put up a decisively worse statline than Melo and wasn't a superior defender either. I love him, but he needs to make massive strides this offseason. PG is crazy overrated after having a few hot playoff games too. His regular season D was worse than Melo's and as always he only contributed offensively for half the season. Melo was playing the best two-way basketball of his career once his post-surgery swelling went down, only got sidetracked once he tripped over a ref and hurt his ankle. Watch games of Melo from the middle of the season, because your perception is miles off from reality.

>Porzingis isn't even top 3 rookies
I won't dignify uninformed garbage like that with a response.

>inb4 le p good 3 months
Oh, so you mean that we should just ignore the fact that he put up excellent numbers the moment he stoppped having double vision because of an orbital fracture, for which we have a sample size of half an NBA season? Absolutely laughable. 18/3.5/4.5 on 46/34/84 (post-Christmas, 41 game sample) is absolutely top 10 PG production, not the top 20 you're claiming,and doesn't consider the fact that he was forced to share a significant portion of his facilitating duties with Butler, who Chicago liked to utilize in a similar manner.
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>>68935812
Adding to this, if he wants to ring-chase, he should look at what LeBron did at Miami, and form a super-team somewhere that already has a decent core.

>>68935902
Cavs don't have the cap space and he'd be a terrible fit for a team that desperately needs a big man.
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>>68935600
>not top 3 rookie
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>>68935600
>Porzingis isn't even top 3 rookies
lol, he's the clear #2 and it's not even close. And most years, he'd easily be #1.
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>>68935600
PG maybe plays better defense than melo and thats about it
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Another fun tidbit: Rose went through a full workout with the Knicks training staff two days ago and was declared 100% healthy, not even having a lack of, or difference in, strength in knees. Essentially, there were zero causes for concern and any injuries that happen from here on would be something entirely unrelated to past ones.
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>>68936639
I honestly think his injuries were because he was throwing his body around like a moron (e.g. after dunks) If he's stopped doing that than he might remain healthy.

But he has to be good for the Knicks and he has to be a healthy prospect for re-signing for the trade to be worthwhile imo.
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>>68935255
>>68935255
Did she get blacked?
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>>68936887
Yeah, it seems like he's gotten a lot smart and is picking his spots more. It looks more like he was holding back early on in his return, but he looks confident now.

As far as the trade goes, even if he walks we at least know what the team's core/system looks like with a real PG that can penetrate, along with having an extra $13M or so in cap space next offseason and the opportunity to play KP at the 5 more. Assuming we don't pour a ton of unnecessary money into the frontcourt, anyway... I do miss RoLo already though, his effort and even those little skits he would do with mascots during pregame made that season so much more manageable.
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>>68937227
Benny the bull on suicide watch
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>average cavs fans
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>>68937564
>steak & lube
Is this a thing? I thought you ate them.
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>Black people on twitter mad that Kyrie didn't have any black bitches at his yacht party

Lmao, and these bitches wonder why black men don't like them.
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>>68938076
why he mad thoooo ahahhaah
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>>68937861
Steak is code word for prime pussy.
It's a whore house down in Cleveland. Prostitution is legal there like Las Vegas.

Very haram, those people are sick fucks.
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>>68938076
Kyrie learned from his last bitch that they aren't worth it.
Plus the guy has the Friends logo tattooed on his arm, you know he likes those Rachel and Monica types.
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>>68935944
>Melo and Giannis
Since the ASB, where he started playing point-forward, Giannis has been posting 18.8/(1.4/7.3)/7.2/1.4/1.9 on 50% FG% while Melo 21.8/(1.4/6.4)/4.2/0.9/0.5 on 43%, Giannis stat-line is objectively better, his height and perimeter shooting is irrelevant when he posts better numbers all-round.

>Passing
Giannis' passing might not be technically advanced, but he has good vision and can find the open player at the right time, whether if it's in transition, half court-sets or when driving.

>Defense
Giannis is a good defender, whether if wit's help defense, staying in front of his man or general awareness.
Again, haven't watched the Knicks too much last season, but I got the impression of Melo playing average/below average defense.

>PG
He has been recovering from an injury, yet playing the best offensive basketball of his life, lit in the playoffs - where it really mattered - on defense.
Got the impression that he played p good D in regular season too, but if you say so.


>Porzingis
Jokic and KAT were surely better, and Myles was up there too imo


>Rose
I was just throwing a number with top 20.
But if we're taking your numbers, here are all the PGs who posted them all season long (when they played)
Curry
Lillard
Westbrook
Kemba
IT
Wall
Kyrie
Reggie
CP3
Bledsoe
Knight

If we lower the ppg threshold to 14 and add the TS%, we also get
Oladipo
Conley
Jrue Holiday
Barton
LaVine (who played PG until the ASB)
Teague

And that's when you don't include players like Rubio, Hill and Rondo whose bread and butter isn't scoring.

If we filter by Rose's game score over the span of those 41 games we get 16 PGs who averaged better all season long:
http://bkref.com/tiny/b6BHW

And most those aren't a constant injury threat.

r8 my essay
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>>68938132
Well, well, cheeky hijab'd twat.
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>>68938311
Nigga you Donald Trump? You tryin to build a wall? baka nigga you got carpal tunnel writin this?
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>all these euros defending porzingis actin like he wasn't just good for 2 months then dropped off a cliff

lmao, top 5 rookie at best last year
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>>68938391
/nba/ goin crazy with the dissertations right now senpai!
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>>68936091
Jokic
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this general has the highest concentration of pussy niggas desu
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Will the Cavs get rid of Love? Will they repeat?
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>>68938691
HE BE WISHIN FOR A BURNER
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>>68938677
No, probably not.
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Kyrie Irving>Stephanie Curry
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>>68938478
And who else? This year I'd say it was KAT, then Zinger/Jokic.

Maybe I'm forgetting someone obvious.
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>>68938848
I think KAT and Jokic are the top 2 for sure
and then It's probably Boban, Porzingis, Turner and WCS
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>>68938398
>posting in a basketball thread when you don't watch basketball
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Israel and Germany

Write an essay about me
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>>68938996
Booker had a fantastic season but he wasn't better than Zinger.

The NBA ROTY voting was dead-on, you nerds are retarded. KAT was the best, then Zinger, then Booker, then after that it's a bit debatable.
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porzingis is fucking trash lmfao

can't wait for him to have a sophomore slump ass season lmfao

german janny your @s are unnecessary
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What can the sixers get for jahlil?

I hate this worthless piece of shit. Id have rather won last years lottery 2bh
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>>68938996
In what world is 14/2/2 better than 14/7/1? They both shot same percentages and only one of them can play defense.

I liked Booker but come on dude, get real.
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>>68939150
>mfw Rose's leg snaps in half in the second game of the season
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>>68939019
I don't think I can do another one in the next couple of hours, not used to it.
Most of my posts are just lmao/shook with a random webm
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>Wake up
>Go on /sp/
>Literally almost every single thread is about divegrass faggot fairy shit
>Realize basketball is over and football is still months away
>Realize pointless regular season baseball is the only real sport on
>Realize the Olympics is still over a month away
>Realize it's that time of year again

Kill me
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>>68939354
just hit a qbp senpai it's what al the cool bros are doing

i'm fucking roasted
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>>68939354
When does futbol end?
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>>68939403
couple of weeks until euro finals
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>>68939429
>14ppg for someone who does not do anything but shoot the ball is good

Those are Dion Waiters tier numbers, he should be getting 7 times that,
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porzingis won't even play through two full contracts in his career lmao
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>>68939203
He walked into the league putting up 21/8.5 per 36 and was up around 60% true shooting for the second half of his season, along with showing good poise against doubles. Basically went from a free throw disaster to average in a couple months of work. That's ridiculous production for a rookie. Most rookie big men have significant defensive issues, even more so in the first half of their season or when they're asked to be a first option. That shit takes time to develop. Be higher on him, even if you want him gone. He's not some scrub that's wasting space on your roster.
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>>68939354
It'd be easier if this year's Euro Cup weren't so shit.
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what is there to do during the offseason? when will KD decide where he wants to go?

qbp life
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>>68939510
Why? Injuries? Because skilled big men are always going to be useful.
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>>68939759
he's a bargniani-tier bitch nigga
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>>68939721
before his camp which is in like 10 days I think.

watch everybody get hype and then he just signs a 1+1 with okc.
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Lakers?
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>>68939696
They also think their homer local sports reporter confirms they have a meeting with Durant, even though no reputable national news outlet is saying so. These niggas are delusional as fuck and can't accept that they're on the outside looking in.
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>>68935255
how can white men even compete?
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>>68940211
BoB believes the earth is flat. FLAT!
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>>68940211
kek
wtf mod, we can't discuss music when there's no bball?
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>>68935282
They wont win cuz cavs are 3peating
>3 for da land
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>>68940117
>He doesn't have broads in Atlanta
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7KT will dominate the NBA starting in 2 years. Sixers and knicks will take turns battling the timerwolves in the finals for 10 years straight
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>>68940300
>Desiigner I'd actually from NY

NY has really fallen off
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>>68940348
Lmao, nigga delusional as fuck.

>already killed RBL
>7KT was already dead and is still dead

BTC wiped out the league faster than a nuke on Hiroshima.

We run this. And it's so damn easy.
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>>68940509
This

Shit is so sad.
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Dion Waiters is obviously not returning.
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>>68940582
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>>68940712
If you aren't talking about how Rose's knees are fixed, Hans makes sure you don't talk at all
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>>68940691
If he's smart he'll ask for minor roleplayer money on a small 2 year contract. He's not the #4 pick dropping 20 points a night player he was for a couple years with the Cavs. He fell off so hard and the Cavs are so shit at drafting it's not even funny.

He averaged 9 points a game, this guy needs to stay with OKC and try to revitalize his career or he's going to be playing in China within 3 years.
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>>68940834
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>>68940348
yup

>>68940543
>>68940509
>RubioClutch3.webm
>KATHookPortland.webm
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thank you based lebron
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>>68940834
Defense should keep him in the league til he's 30 no matter what, but if he wants money he's better off exploring the market now. He has more upside to make money off currently than he will in two years at age 26 and this free agent class is more bigs than guards.
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do you agree with me thinking that this nba season was one of the best EVER?

>Best regular season team performance ever (73-9), which also included possibly the greatest month of basketball every played (Warriors November)

>One of the best individual seasons ever (Steph Curry unanimous MVP)

>Best farewell ever (Kobe, 60)

>Biggest NBA Finals upset ever (Cleveland after going down 3-1)

>TWO 3-1 series comebacks in a single Playoffs

>Top 3 dunk contest ever

>Best rookie class in over a decade
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Did you ban me
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>>68940834
Dion is so damn dumb tho, he commits dumb offensive fouls at least twice a game and he fucks up on defense all the time.

He forgets to stay on Draymond in this webm when it was obvious Westbrook would be stuck on Curry.
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>>68941006
Basically all shit Skip Cuckless said at one point or another.
>1.4 ppg
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>>68941051
He's horrible on defense.
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>>68941172
>best cucking of an """"""unanimous MVP""""""

Loved it.
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>>68941172
Amazing regular season and Cleveland winning it all was very cool, but all in all it was one of the worst postseasons I've ever seen outside of a handful of games. The East has never been less watchable and the West was bad too.

>>68941351
He was an elite perimeter defender the entire season. It's a big part of how he stayed in the rotation through all those terrible shooting nights.
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>>68941286
People were talking about how Draymond was completely ignoring Andre on offense but look at how damn deep he was in the paint when "guarding" Dion.
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>>68941172
hell yes
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>>68941172
Most of the actual games were kind of boring. Cool narratives but actually dull for fans not of those teams desu
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>>68941423
>He was an elite perimeter defender the entire season

When did Elite become a term synonymous with shit?
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>He was an elite perimeter defender the entire season
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>>68941496
Hahaha you fucked up.
What a cuck
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>He was an elite perimeter defender the entire season
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>>68930034
Following
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You can run but you can't hide
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>>68941670
And their win-loss record was..?
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Thank god we got this guy instead of Dion "Shit" Waiters
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i thought literally what OKC needed was a shooting guard who can get points from jumpers and can play defense.

they have KD and Westbrook already so they basically chew up most of the team's effort.

Then they have rim protectors like Adams and Kanter to clean up.

I hope they make something special out of their trades and get some guys in the off-season.

Literally the only reason why OKC didn't go to the Finals was because Durant and Westbrook couldn't trust any of their shitty bench players to get anything done. The only reliable guy is Adams. They couldn't give a shit if the rest of those guys were trapped in a fire.

The only reason they got so far was because they knew it was playoffs and had to force the guys to step up because they damn sure weren't going to lose without trying. KD was about to break his foot in someone's ass for stepping out of line and I'm sure Westbrook is tired too.
>>
How bootyblasted is /NBA/ going to be when Durant realizes that Boston has the best combination of what he's looking for in a team and signs with them?

No other team in the league can offer him the same longevity, room for improvement, asset management, and the option to be the undisputed #1 guy on a championship contending team.
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>Then they have rim protectors like Adams and Kanter to clean up.
>rim protector
>and Kanter
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>>68941808
You're already scared and I love it
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>>68942129
>scared of a lottery team
Oh I'm laffing
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>>68941808
and how many playoff minutes did Derrick Rose average?
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>>68942107
>rim protecter like Adams
>and Kanter to clean up
Please learn how to use context, he clearly meant Kanter is a nice offensive presence and Adams was the rim protector
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>>68942181
You should be even more scared that they'll get a top 10 pick
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>>68942198
That's not how sentence structure works
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>>68941670
>11 game sample
>second best player is some faggot bearded Euro

Lol Bulls are trash
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>>68942227
Why should I be scared, my team is better as-is and also has a top 3 pick in both of the next two drafts. Plus cap space for two max deals.
>>
OFFICIAL MOST DELUSIONAL FANBASE RANKING AS OF NOW

Knicks
Bulls
Boston
Lakers
Spurs
POWER GAP
everyone else.
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>>68942198
you removed your s from protectors lmao

he called kanter a rim protector
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>>68942305
>Boston
lol the true delusional people are the ones sleeping on the Celtics.
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Oh yeah so afraid of Jimmy Butler
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>how he king with no ring?
>not 1, not 2, not 3...
>2-4 2-5
>tfw lebron haters all killed themselves
>>
Boston has only been relevant for like 3 years since 1990
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>>68942355
Did they sign LeBron? Or I am I missing something?
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>>68942270
Bulls are trash, I know, I watch them
Jimmy, however is elite
>>68942274
Your team has no one that can guard the god
>>68942356
Nene is a bitch, fuck outta here
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>>68942355
Here's one of the delusional cucks.
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>>68942249
>>68942326
>he called kanter a rim protector
You're right, apologies. I just thought it was impossible that someone could say that about the worst rim protector in the league right now.
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>/nba/ thinking they can make fun of Philly niggas without getting merked

Lmao we got your momma's address nigga, we watchin.
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>>68942384
nope but they're primed and ready to go. All they need is that one lucky break and they'll take the NBA by storm. That break could come as soon as July 1st when they meet with Durant to show him what they've got to offer.
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>>68942355
THE PRESSURE IS ON YOU

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>68942369
>2-5 advanced stats anime cuck probably killed himself

Feels good.
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>>68942427
>weak mill
Boi if you dont
>>
>>68942412
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0L_WfrHCjM
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>>68942466
JUST
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>>68930460
oh SHIT she got 3 arms
>>
>3-4
>advanced statistics
>pretending 3-4 is any better than 2-4
>>
>>68942412
>Your team has no one that can guard the god
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KbsXgIqgy0
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>>68942481
>drake dick rider

I hope you got your foreskin removed for rabbi Aubrey.
>>
>Kyrie before LeBron came
>yo Dion we about to take over the league you feel me? We major, we takin over
>Kyrie after LeBron came back
>Yo BronBron when this ugly ass nigga gettin traded?
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>>68942369
And on that note, fuck curry.
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>>68930480
>>68930511
>>68932248
>Chris Paul 4th pick in the draft
>Dragan Bender 4th pick in the draft

Coincidence?
>>
remember when drake fans pretended that weak ass track bodied meek?

remember when drake fans pretended a singing ass nigga is hard?
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>>68942542
>never beat a 70 win team.gif
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>>68942526
>>68942581
>Avery Bradley is your answer to Jimmy Buckets
Hheheheheheheheh
>>68942604
Shut up pussy
Come to Toronto right now
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>>68942356
Jummy Buckets will be a legit MVP contender this year

It's not delusional to say that
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>>68942613
HAHAHA you laffin now but watch him drop 20ppg next season and take 'em to the ship.

Might just get hit wit da RICO
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>>68942542
Nice try, kill la kill fag
Hang yourself.
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>Canadian clipper fan is now a bullsfag
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>>68942699
This bruh. Meek still realer than anything about Drake.
>>
Here's the Cockshits new center

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SJNQ53v7rM

Looks like they found themselves another uppity nigger. FUCK HOUSTON
>>
>>68942795
are you autistic?
>>
>>68942820
Nigga I was never a clippers fan
>>
>>68942736
>Shut up pussy
>Come to Toronto right now
Did you write this, or was it your ghostwriter?
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>>68942880
>Nigga I was never a clippers fan
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>>68942699
Remember that time a neckbeard took rap beefs seriously?

Shits more scripted than the WWE with half the acting ability
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>>68942833
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOogozG-ghs

PHILLY NIGGAS BE DA REALEST
DANCIN WITH THE ILLEST
WAITERS GONNA KILL THIS
>>
So where do you guys think Whiteside will go?
>>
Can we all agree the three worst fanbases in the league are the Lakers, Bulls and Raptors
>>
>>68943117
Remember when Dion had an expensive ass pool party with Meek there and got shut down by the cops?

How do you go from being the next superstar to being a scrub so fast?
>>
>>68930311
The Panda's Friend
>>
>>68943194
I thought that's why they formed a broship in the first place
>>
>>68931121

props to Knight for the suicide attempt
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Why does /sp/ hate Butler all of a sudden?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LNOHCEPyEgk
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>>68942880
Kill yourself.
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>>68943170
spurs
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>>68943325
They're scared of their 2017 MVP
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>>68943325
/nba/ just hates you idiot. Because you keep spamming dumb shit on your iphone
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>>68943325
did she get blacked?
>>
>>68943214
THE MONEY TURNED ME INTO A MONSTA
THE MONEY TURNED MY NOODLES INTO PASTA
THE MONEY TURNED MY TUNA INTO LOBSTA
THEY WANNA DO ME IMMA DO IT LIKE A MOBSTA
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>>68943374
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>>68943325
It's not Butler we hate. It's you.
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>>68943194
>3 worst fan bases

That'd be the Spurs, Lakers, and Mavs
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>>68943325
Seems like a nice guy.
>>
>>68943521
haha epic photoshop bro xD
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>this entire fucking article
it's long as hell but well worth the read

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14172961/the-cruel-tutelage-kevin-garnett
>>
>>68943630
>San Antonio Cuck still this ass blasted
>>
>>68943630
Sup Julio? A little cranky from getting up for 5 am mass with your abuela?
>>
>>68941424

WTF happened to Dion? I cringed everytime he got the ball.
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>>68943634
KG was a crazy bastard, all right, but he was OUR crazy bastard, and we loved him.
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>>68944018
got lost in another dimension making a pentagram to summon his brother
>>
>>68930464
>>68930475
>>68930460
not even that hot desu senpai. stop posting
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so is Ben Simmons the real deal.

Hopefully learns to get that long jumper down

im hyped for the Sixers
>>
>>68944079
Fuck off, retard
>>
>>68944018
Nothing changed, he's overly emotional, loses his head and commits dumb fouls, he doesn't know how to drive to the paint without committing an OF.

With the Cavs he had the ball more and was allowed mistakes, now that he's limited with it his inability to be efficient is glaring and obvious.

He's not meant to be a bench guy, he needs to be feed the ball and allowed to get into a rhythm, but even then, with his best performances he's still not that efficient.

So he's also not meant to be a starting SG for any championship contention team. Unless he changes he's going to end up on horrible teams for the rest of his life or in China. I don't even think European teams would want him.
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>>68944318
wow someone's pretty salty that their team never won a chip
>>
>>68944453
Dumb frogposter
>>
>>68944457
Having a 4th grade reading level is tough, huh?
>>
>>68944457
>Hans BTFOing "muh theses" kobeposters
based janny
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>>68944457
You want to fight bruh?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8K66omr2Lg

Got Meek and Rick Ross in the back bitch. You wanna pull up?
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>>68944318
>talking shit about a top 10er
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7AAD5Sx2jw
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Let's go bruh.
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>>68941172
no doubt it's one of the best seasons. I'm 27 and looking back, it might have been the most memorable for me.

Kober 60 was cool

Dunk contest was cool and not lame as usual

playoffs were good and the finals topped it off

bron won and defeated the team with the best record ever. pretty much solidifying that MJs 72 win team is better than the meme chuckers 73

loved it.
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>tfw the NBA is so pussified no one will use the Jordan Rules on pussy ass Stephanie Curry
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>mfw niggas too scared to fuck with a Philly nigga

That's right, stay silent.
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is /nba/ ready? Its not too late to hop on the DLoading Train
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>>68944756
Did you not watch the fucking playoffs
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AHAHAHA
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Sources: Brooklyn has agreed to a partially guaranteed one-year deal with undrafted Evansville center Egidijus Mockevicius.
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>>68944809
Nigga if you think that's even close to what the Pistons did, you're retarded
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>>68944809
They didn't beat the shit out if him on the three or slam him to the ground when he tried to layup. So not Jordan Rules.
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>>68944757
I can't wait until Dion accidentally shoots himself in the leg with a gun in a nightclub at 3AM
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>>68944773
Looks like a young Charles Barkley with a tarantula on his head.
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>>68944829
35 players better than Apemond Green.
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>>68930034
WHY YOU SHOOTING 3S NIGGA PULL UP
WHY YOU SHOOTING 3S NIGGA PULL UP
TAKE IT TO THE HOLE
GET YOUR ASS BLOCKED
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Shitting on these haters, ball hard D Waiters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz2K2Rjd7rQ
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>>68945036
Steph is such a faggot.
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>>68945036
>that cocky little smile
Fuck man I just want some hard, pipe laying nigga like Demarcus Cousins to fuck him up
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So nobody is talking about the oladipo/ibaka trade?

I think it's a horrible decision for OKC. So eager to fill their shooting guard position that they create an even bigger hole elsewhere
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>>68945087
>Dion Waiters got name dropped by Rick Ross
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test
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>>68945186
Fuck off we already talked about it a ton newfag.

Also lmao you don't know shit about ball, Orlando got fleeced and it was nothing but a good trade for OKC. This isn't 2014 anymore, Ibaka isn't elite anymore, he's on the decline and he's better off hopefully becoming a star in Orlando.
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>>68945129

His hollow bone ass wouldn't try that in the 90's.

I still can't get over that they said the would beat the 96 bulls.
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>>68945212
He got name dropped by the fakest nigga in the game next to Drake.
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You now remember:

The Brooklyn Nets
Anthony Davis
Marco Belineli
Tyson Chandler
The Spurs unironically have a female coach (and have not made it to a conference finals since her hiring)
Dante Exum
Mike Malone
Phil Jackson gets paid 60 million a year to make basketball decision for the Knicks
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>>68945212
It was Meek that name dropped him. It's the first line of his verse.
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>>68937564
Uk BTFO
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Well you didn't talk about it last thread and you haven't talked about it this thread. I miss one thread and suddenly I'm a newfag?

First you call me a newfag the you tell me to stop living in the past, but I watched the playoffs this year and ibaka was still playing solid defense and blocking shots. Finally, if he's on the decline, how will he become a star in orlando? None of your post makes any fucking sense.
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Ben Simmons:
>Handsome and athletic as fuck, looks like a goddamn ripped kangeroo
>Is Australian, probably shitposts on /sp/ on the regular
>Only shot 3 three pointers all year due to his disdain for memes
>Is literally Lebron
>Dunks on opponents with the rage of his dead cousin
Brandon Ingram:
>Skeleton stung by bees looking motherfucker
>Is American, will probably get shot
>Is high all the time
>Has a bunch of tattoos, will probably go to jail
>Can only shoot meme threes
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>>68938076
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>>68945586
meant to respond to

>>68945344
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>>68944987
>The last 3 games of the Series was literally "Fuck Steph Curry" in basketball form
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>>68945595
I hope they practiced safe sex in order to reduce their chance of pregnancy, and STIs!
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>>68945595

not a single black chic

HAHAHAHAHA
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>>68945593

Perfect Post
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>>68945186
Ibaka's role was consistently shrinking in OKC. They basically ignored him half the time on offense and defensively he's dropped off a little bit (still quite good). Kanter is able to play both the 4 and 5 and is one of the best scoring big men in the league, while having improved his defense enough to at least no longer be the worst at his position. With a strong offseason, he can take on a bigger role. Durant at the 4 was a huge success in the postseason too, and he's become an top-tier defender. Then you have Ilyasova and Sabonis acquired in the trade. The Thunder have a million ways they can go with their front court now, and all of them look better than Ibaka. The trade could be just that and it wouldn't be terrible, but they also brought on a guy capable of averaging 20/5/5 with great defense, who fills out almost every weakness the team had.
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>>68945733
there literally was at least 1. why are people so obsessed with this stuff?
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Watching the Cavs act like niggas after winning was so much better than what the Choir Boys and Draymond would have done after winning.

Lebron cussing all over his speech, JR pouring champangne on women, walking around with no shirt, Kyrie with a boat full of white women, Lue rapping "Fuck up some commas" at the parade.

Soon teams won't get to do it like this anymore.
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>>68945186
i think it will work out perfectly for both of them. the current narrative is the magic got fleeced. don't think so. ibaka will put up bigger numbers again and the thunder filled greater needs while adding a very strong prospect.
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>50's - 60's
White
>70's - 2000's
Black
>2010's - 20XX
Mixed

We takin' over senpai
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I think Morey should pursue Nerlens Noel. I think he'd work well in the MDA system and Harden.
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>>68945838
none of those players are as good a defender as ibaka. kanter is a joke on defense. Durant playing the 4? You think that's something that will consistently happen, you think Durant wants that? Ilyasova and Sabonis are literally whos. No matter how you put it, they're worse on defense after this trade. How many scoring threats do you really need on that team?
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>>68935255
>Small

fake ass nigga cornball brotha busta fuck you
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>>68946015

Noel aint going anywhere

take okafor
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What did the NBA mean by this?
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>>68945914
Realest team to win in a long time.

More real than the 2008 Celtics? More real than the 2004 Pistons?
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>>68946098
Okafor would be awful in the MDA system. Fuck him
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>>68946155
Mavericks
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>>68946155
ANYTHING IS POSSIBLEEEE
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>>68945186
If KD leaves then the trade is alright for OKC. If he stays I don't see how they get much better than what they've got this year.

It all relies on how much Adams and Kanters game improves next season. Adams already made a huge leap last year and Kanter went from shit defense to not quite as shit but still pretty bad defense.

If Waiters is gone then the trade is also fine. OKC can use Illyasova on offense the same way they used Ibaka.
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>>68946243

recalling Dirk not missing a single FT during the playoffs, awesome

Heard Dirk is leaving Dallas?
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Are the Bulls rebuilding? I ask because I can't see them tanking that badly as long as they have Butler, Mirotic and Gibson

Because I would rather see them tank and get a top 5 pick than get middle round picks in basketball purgatory

It's scaring me like we're going back to the Scott Sciles era

I wish they would get Conley but I doubt he wants to come to the Bulls, so it looks like we'll have to wait until bext FA to cross our fingers for Westbrook and draft a center
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Durant is in New York right now.

Say the off chance they do sign him, what the hell are they going to do with Melo?
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>>68945733
The girl in the white baseball cap sitting in the back is black
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>>68946291
offense was never their problem though. They had 3 chuckers on that team taking all the shots, Ibaka was a solid defense bigman for them that didn't need to shoot to be effective. I think their defense will suffer a lot more than people are giving him credit for.
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>>68946411
Their biggest problem was perimeter defense.

Russ plays greedy af on defense and only goes into lock down defense when he does not have to carry the offense.
Robes is good but yea, non existant on offense.
Waiters honestly was fine defensively and not as terrible for teams to leave him wide open on offense.

The trade, as I said, heavily relies on Kanter and Adams making another leap defensively. Also how is Dipo on defense, barely watched any Magic games.
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>>68946058
>You think that's something that will consistently happen, you think Durant wants that?
Yes, they destroyed the Warriors doing it and it changes nothing for him on offense, it's also more fast pace when they go small ball and covers up a lot of their weaknesses with KD at SF with Andre on the SG. When Andre is a SF he doesn't need to be an offensive threat and can just play D. And if KD goes C with Andre PF it covers it up even more.
It's new for them, more exciting, and fresh. Something competitors usually want.

>Ilyasova and Sabonis
Absolute ignorance and stupidity, of course the guy just drafted isn't famous in the NBA yet but he's well known in college basketball as the star player for Gonzaga that made the NCAA tournament, Ilyasova is a vet so he's known by people that are actually knowledgeable unlike you, his popularity doesn't matter all that matters is his actual ability to be a good role player and play stretch 4 on par with Ibaka.
>No matter how you put it
How about no. It's your own ignorance that doesn't allow you to understand.
>How many scoring threats do you really need on that team?
At least three because as you can see they only ever made it to the Finals with three and never made it again without three. You could see KD and Westbrook were struggling to score in those last 3 games and they can't play 100% at the same time every night. You need a third guy, the Cavs have Love who can go for 20, Warriors have Draymond who can go for 20, even Barnes can go for 20.
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>>68946058
Ibaka isn't some defensive stud anymore. He's very good, but not indispensable. Durant plays like 9mpg as a PF already, so yes I think it will consistently happen. It won't be the go-to, but it's an effective lineup that the team will use alongside others. Kanter being a defensive downgrade is certainly true, but he's improved his D consistently in recent years. He won't be good on that end, but his offensive superiority can go a long way toward balancing that out. I was extremely impressed by how well he performed on that end for most of the playoffs, actually. Especially considering OKC's defensive scheme wasn't playing to his strengths.

Ilyasova and Sabonis are also far from literally whos. Ilyasova stretches the floor almost as well as Ibaka, while Sabonis already has more offensive polish and rebounding ability. His ceilling is way higher than Ibaka's at this stage.

The important thing is that they now have a permanent solution for the wing, who can ensure that the team fields two excellent scorers in every lineup, as well as being an excellent perimeter defender. If Durant leaves or something, then they have a likely superstar to take his place and can avoid an ugly rebuild. Their front court doesn't get weaker, it just becomes more offense less defense. With Adams continuing to improve, that might not even be an issue either. imo it's a absolute fleece and further drives home the fact that Orlando has no idea what it's building anymore. If they don't already have a huge signing lined up, then nothing they've done in the past calender year makes a lick of sense.
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>>68946109
BIG
BLACK
BUCKS
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>>68946109
Is big ball the new thing?
Sixers, Bucks, Kings all going for it
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>>68945595
>>68945733
i see 3
at start in turquoise bikini
@6 with reverese cap
@14 with black hair on the left
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>>68946411
>offense was never their problem though
>didn't need to shoot to be effective

You don't know shit.
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>>68946373
KD can guard 2-4 with no problems really, but for him to play 4 Porzingis would need to move to 5.

So, if it happens, which it obviously won't, then I'd say Drose, Melo, KD, Porzingis, whoever.
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>>68946592
He's great. Always keeps his man in front, which means more threes than drives, and also holds them to terrible percentages from three. Gives them no space when doing it either. He's got great pick and roll anticipation, fights hard through screens, reads passing lanes, and draws a ton of charges. Very few weaknesses.
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>>68946291
>don't see how they get much better than what they've got this year

They just got a way better backcourt which is essential in the West and in this new style of basketball it's the best thing possible by adding more flexibility with linups and offense. More spacing, higher pace, higher defense on the back with Oladipo, Westbrook no longer has to worry about taking up Andre & Dion's slack. Now he can focus on passing more like he did in the playoffs after he bricked 20 shots against the Spurs one game.
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Knicks are going to win a title soon arent they?
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>people think it's 2014 and Ibaka is some elite PF

Lmao, you guys are so fucking dumb. Check his stats, defensive/offensive plus minus, for the last two years compared to his stats in 2011-2014.

The dude when from being all defensive first team for 4 years straight to not getting a single vote this year.
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>tfw Germany ignored my essay
fuck this shit
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>>68946904
Title of "Most Embarrassing Franchise", yes
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>>68946862
I'm still not sure what to make of Oladipo. Magic fans say he is extremely inconsistent on offense and OKC already had that with Waiters. Also, I'm sure it will still be Russ and Robes starting with Dipo taking over Waiters role.
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>>68946970
Sorry, I just scrolled up and don't see it? Could you link/repost it?
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>>68946965
They also don't know Ibaka had one year left on his contract, was complaining this season about having to play stretch, and was most likely going to leave next year as confirmed by his agent.
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>>68947008
>>68938311
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I'm ready for the mid season trade that sends a 22/10 Jahlil Okafor to a desperate Boston for Marcus Smart and the Nets pick.
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Waive Ilyasova, renounce Waiters, and go after Marvin Williams.
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>>68946975
Your use of extreme is extremely hyperbolic.
He's not nearly as inconsistent as Dion and averaged 16 points with Dion having 9ppg.

Magic fans are just pissy their team is shit and are overly critical.

Andre may not be a starter depending on what gameplan Donovan comes up with this year, this is his first year being able to shape the team's roster the way he wants it and making his preferred lineups instead of just getting a feel for the team.

Andre very well may play SF next season with Durant at PF if they go small ball or he can come off the bench as a defensive weapon when needed.
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>>68947054
This

These guys complaining don't know shit.
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>>68947223
>Your use of extreme is extremely hyperbolic.
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How is Ibaka 26 and somehow 2 years removed from his prime?
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>>68944614
>>68942795
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WsGrHzReo4
>Dion fans
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>>68947286
it's the lack of proper birth documentation combined with stat decline. but in this case it's all a bunch of bs.
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>>68947286
He was forced to stop being a regular PF and had to adapt to being a stretch 4. Therefore his stats were changed.

The same thing happened to Love although Love adapted much better than Ibaka did.
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>>68947286
africans lie about their age
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>>68947353
>>68947333
Idiots >>68947347
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>>68947333
>>68947353
Kys you retards.
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>>68947286
Africans lie about their age. See also: Maker, Biyombo
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>>68947377
ooga booga
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The best lineup for OKC will probably be Westbrook/Oladipo/Durant/Roberson/Adams. But I can't believe they took their biggest hole, players who can space the floor on one end and play defense on the other, and decided to replace an elite shooting big man with another non-shooting guard.
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>>68947437
>The best lineup for OKC will probably be Westbrook/Oladipo/Durant/Roberson/Adams. But I can't believe they took their biggest hole, players who can space the floor on one end and play defense on the other, and decided to replace an elite shooting big man with another non-shooting guard.
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>>68947415
>>68947407
>>68947353
>>68947333
When did /nba/ get filled to the brim with retarded casuals that don't know anything about basketball beyond the most basic of rules?
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>>68947437
>three players at 6'5" or shoter

Yeah I'm sure that'll work out fine
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>>68947531
That's where the NBA is going, friend.
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>>68947529
t. butthurt 40 year old african high school junior
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>>68947529
Reddit invaded this place and it's been iredimable ever since.

Look here >>68947437 >>68947476

Just retarded opinions of people that refuse to read paragraphs and inform themselves about strategy and just spam fedora images.
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>>68947570
Not really. Warriors go "short", but Klay is 6'7", and Barnes is 6'8".

Also Roberson can't shoot
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>>68947407
Mutumbo didn't lie, unless you're saying he played at a relatively high level until he was 45.
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>>68947594
>he takes 4chan, especially /nba/ seriously
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>>68947608
>>68947531
Why are you complaining when it's exactly the same as their "lineup of death" killer minus Ibaka at C when if you really look at it Ibaka's impact there was minimal as he couldn't guard smaller guys all that effectively? It's a minor drop that can be filled. Presti and Donovan aren't idots. Ibaka has become a 6th wheel in OKC and is no longer a part of the big three.
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qbp will hafe a championship this year cap this
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>>68947718
>Presti and Donovan aren't idiots
>Presti not an idiot

Haha
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>>68947718
Played like a fiddle on the three point line.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fBjHkiFgpA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sokjHbfJj6Y

I don't have a video of when Pop drew up a play just for Aldridge to fake a three and get Ibaka to commit a three point shooting foul.
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>>68938311
>Since the ASB, where he started playing point-forward, Giannis has been posting 18.8/(1.4/7.3)/7.2/1.4/1.9 on 50% FG% while Melo 21.8/(1.4/6.4)/4.2/0.9/0.5 on 43%, Giannis stat-line is objectively better, his height and perimeter shooting is irrelevant when he posts better numbers all-round.
Giannis has a flashy statline, but even Bucks fans were admitting that he looked like he was chasing triple doubles once he started handling the ball more. Perimeter shooting is also extremely relevant, because it impacts every other player on the floor. Teams standing 5+ft away from Giannis on the perimeter kills the Bucks spacing and makes it harder to score.

>Giannis' passing might not be technically advanced, but he has good vision and can find the open player at the right time, whether if it's in transition, half court-sets or when driving.
His vision is solid and can become better, but it's a matter of how effective it can actually be once other teams gameplan. We saw his turnovers explode in April largely due to the fact that teams knew what to look for and saw how easy his angles were to pick off. Melo records fewer assists since he operates more from the elbow, but he makes headier, more technical passes. More importantly, he also directs the offense from off-ball. He's the one shouting out plays and pointing guys around, whereas Giannis has a much more passive role.

Defensively, I'm not slighting Giannis at all. He's good and will be great. Melo, however, was legitimately one of the best defenders in the NBA this season, and I don't mean that as a homer. Due to injuries, he spent the first few months of the season defending the opposing team's best offensive player, and consistently shut them down while recording one of the best Diff%'s (opponent's shooting with him matched up vs. normal average) in the NBA. He was also the vocal leader on that end as well, calling out the other team's players and pointing/pulling teammates into the right position.
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>>68938311
PG legitimately didn't contribute anything offensively for half of the regular season, then got hot for three games of the postseason against poor defense. He D'd up DeRozan well, but DeRozan looked inept against every defender sent his way for most of the postseason


Jokic came on strong toward the end, but even at his best he wasn't comparable to KP. Jokic was peaking as an efficient 11/9 with sprinklings of defense. He wasn't good enough to play for most of the year, which allowed him to have more energy in the closing months, resulting in recency bias. KP's normal 14/7 with 1.9 blocks is a statline about a dozen rookies in NBA history have ever pulled off, and he did it while being one of the league's best defenders. He was something like 6th in the entire NBA in opponent FG% inside 6ft, along with consistently switching onto and locking down opposing guards. Of course he cooled off toward the end, because maybe one rookie in the league had a larger role, but even then he played elite defense and was able to be the team's second-best player.

Mind you I was just fucking around when I implied Rose was a superstar, but I certainly don't agree that he isn't top 15 at his position. As far as your list goes, I would agree with everyone on the main one outside of Knight, who really screws up the offense of his teams, terrible facilitator. For the others, dropping PPG all the way to 14 seems excessive to me. But looking at those guys, Oladipo is an SG, Holiday, LaVine (who only averaged 13/3/3 pre-ASB), and Barton spent most of the season competing against inferior competition in bench players. The other guys you can have discussions about, but like I said Rose's production was really hurt by the whole Butler situation and lack of weapons outside of him. Rose was having to pass up a lot of his drives and assist opportunities that would normally be bread and butter. If Butler had been the clear no. 2 in pecking order, I think Rose could've done 21/4/7 or so.
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we essays now, sorry for the delay israelbro
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>>68947608
OKC doesn't have enough players who can shoot 3s and not get killed on defense. Even if Ibaka was regressing and about to leave, they should have done everything to be good THIS season. Ibaka at center was the main reason OKC was up 3-1 against Golden State. If they traded him for some 3 and D guys to rev up their depth and small lineups that would be one thing, but now OKC's entire franchise (because if they don't at least make the Finals Westbrook and Durant are gone) hinges on Durant and Adams being able to do the rim protecting job of Ibaka and Adams and Billy Donovan making a playable offense with one shooter on the floor.
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>>68947809
Name a current GM better at drafting talent and making trades under capspace pressure.

You'll find the list of people is very small.

When the team is healthy (a star player isn't injured) they've always stayed in championship contention. He's drafted KD, Westbrook, Harden, Reggie, Adams, Jeff Green, etc. All within 10 years.

Whenever one of them was close to leaving or didn't want to stay, he traded them for something that ended up helping the team and keeping them a top threat. All while keeping the salary gap large enough to make even more moves.
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Vote

http://www.strawpoll.me/10594446
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>>68948126
the nba is rigged so Durant is due his ring by now, wherever he goes
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>>68948126
where are the knicks?
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what did he mean by this?
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>>68948307
Put something on a t-shirt that he'd never have the balls to say to his face on the streets.
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>>68948126
shit poll
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Would Durant be more of a cuck for following in LeBron's footsteps by joining Miami, or for becoming Curry's bitch by joining GSW?
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>>68947981
>Ibaka at center was the main reason OKC was up 3-1 against Golden State

No, it was KD at PF, Andre at SF. They were able to limit Curry and Klay this way. Draymond was limited by a combo of Ibaka and KD who both have insane reach.
Ibaka was a second or third reason for it but the offensive ability of Westbrook and KD was always the main reason for anything in OKC.

You don't realize just how much Andre and Dion limit them as a team and fuck with the chemistry. Westbrook tries way too hard when they play bad and acts like he has to pick up the slack for the empty SG position on offense.
OKC for a major part of the GS series was playing 4vs5 on offense.

Ibaka can be replaced by a rotation of Ilyasova and Adams who's proven to be able to guard smaller guys effectively enough. Something Ibaka was having them most trouble with.

Most of OKC's lineup had Ibaka at PF and getting exploited by GS on switches that put him in uncomfortable situations he struggled in.

His contract was up next year and he wasn't fitting the new small ball style of play. It was best that Presti traded him now when he had value instead of keeping him and not getting anything in return when he eventually left.
I love Ibaka but looking at all the new facts about his agent borderline confirming he was leaving, this trade was the best option available.
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>>68948478
Durant is not even in the same tier as LeBron or Steph, so it wouldn't matter anyway.
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>>68948478
he doesn't have to worry about any of that because he is going to end up based and winning championships on the spurs
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Point guards definitely better than Derrick Rose:

Curry
Westbrook
Irving
CP3
Lillard
Lowry
Isaiah Thomas
Wall
Conley
George Hill
Reggie Jackson
Jeff Teague
Eric Bledsoe
Kemba Walker
Ricky Rubio
Dennis Schroder
Goran Dragic
Jrue Holiday

Point guards probably better than or about the same as Derrick Rose:

Tony Parker
Elfrid Payton
Brandon Knight
Trey Burke
Marcus Smart
Rajon Rondo
Jordan Clarkson

Guys who aren't listed as point guards but often play pretty much point guard who are better than Derrick Rose:

LeBron
Giannis

Rookies/youngsters who will probably be better point guards than Derrick Rose:

D'Angelo Russell
Emmanuel Mudiay
Ben Simmons
Kris Dunn
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>>68948564
#BuiltNotBought
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>>68948478
It's the very reason you're making a point like this that KD isn't leaving. There's no option but to stay in OKC or be labeled a hypocrite and have his reputation tarnished by deplorably unnecessary ring chasing.

Throughout his career he's said he wants to be like Dirk and Tim Duncan with sticking to a team and he goes on about his love for OKC, standing up for small city teams, and donating money, having multiple charities in OKC. Going on about how it's his home and what not. He's completely become synonymous with OKC and it's his team, the team that would have won the WCF if he himself didn't choke.

There's no one to blame but himself and if he leaves to go somewhere else it's the ultimate bitch move.
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Lakers sign Hassan Whiteside
Lakers trade D-Lo to Bucks for Jabari
Lakers re-sign Clarkson
next year: Westbrook signs

Whiteside
Ingram
Jabari
Clarkson
Westbrook
6th man: Randle

INCOMING DYNASTY
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what should the character limit for /nba/ be?
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>>68948700
D'Lo fits better with that team than Westbrook.

If anything, I'd rather see the Lakers trade D'Lo to the Jazz for Gobert and sign Conley + Batum

Gobert
Inrgram
Batum
Clarkson
Conley
6th man: Randle

Now that's a better team
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>>68948723
No more than a two sentences. Also automatic deleting of your post if you spam a bunch of nonsensical trade shit like these guys >>68948700 >>68948793
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>>68948723
140 like twitter so we can writ n brok Nglish & use #s
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What the fuck is up with all these fuckin essays holy shit
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>>68935458
Us Ameriblobs are still culturally closer to the Brits...won't think it'll happen senpai
>captcha German street signs
Well fuck then
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>>68949053
>>68949053
srsly, I feel like I need to take a nap after having this shit open
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Nba should have a 16 game season.
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>>68949166
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>>68949166
It really should be a 29 game season.

You face every team once and any team with 10+ losses is automatically eliminated from playoff contention.
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>>68949166
man my homies always do this in 2k we draft and play quick seasons shit is SO LIT
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>>68941172
It's one of the better ones.
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Is there any happy medium between nig nog posts like this >>68949310 and dissertations like this >>68947901 ?
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>>68949310
>man my homies always do this in 2k we draft and play quick seasons shit is SO LIT
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>>68941428
haha i remember watching this.
the fans were probably like "aww fuck steph has the ball"
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>>68949397
>nig nog
he sounds like a white boy trying to sound black
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>>68949310
t. a white a boy from Massachusetts
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spurs are winning it all with durant this year tbqh
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>>68949498
"nig" isn't race specific, it's a way of life. Any person can be a nigger
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Wall
Beal
Porter/oubre
Morris
Gortat

How the FUCK do you stop this team reaching 47 wins and the 7th seed

Protip: you can't.
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>>68949542
#BuiltNotBought
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>>68949679
Anyone have the screenshot "Wizards are making the playoffs"
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>>68949542
Even without Durant they are the strongest western team going into next season as of now, at least until GSW sorts out all its contracts.

As a SA born fan, I really think dropping Manu and Tim would benefit us. This season we can become younger, taller, and way more athletic. The Spurs are boring meme is already dead and people only hate on the spurs in /nba/ because they literally have a winning record against every team
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>>68943194
No shit
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Knicks?
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>>68949719
Daily reminder that was a false flag with a completely different tripcode

Daily reminder you won't be able to stop the impending anal devastation wall and beal are about to unleash on the rest of the bottom of the eastern conference and scrape by with the 8th seed and lose in 6 games. Prepare for sadness.
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>>68949679
Beal is leaving and Otto is a joke. The Wizards only bright spot is John Wall and he is definitely leaving when his contract expires. Your GM is a joke
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Lakers sign Whiteside and Beal. Re-sign Clarkson.

Whiteside
Randle
Ingram
Beal
D-Lo
6th man: Clarkson

OOH WEE THATS GOOD LOOKIN
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why is she so perfect?
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>>68949838
>beal leaving

Nah he's staying, but they're gonna overpay for him. He has tons of potential tho, like everyone always forgets his postseason scoring always goes up by like 4 or 5 ppg. Otto is an elite midrange shooter but that's really about it. Still, he has potential too, he can be a 15 to 16 ppg dude. If the wiz can stay healthy and add a few shooting guards and another solid big man there's no reason why the wiz can't make the playoffs again.
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>>68949950
>>68949679
>>68948793
>>68948700
t. 8th seed at best teams
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>>68949980
>crow's feet
>fivehead
>leather pants (whore)

Hard pass
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>ayesha losing her shit on twitter over the photoshopped pics of her getting gangbanged by bron and kyrie

Hahahahahaha
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>>68949980
Why are you posting a picture of a cross dresser?
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Durant is coming out with a new line of green shoes this year. He's going to Boston.
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No more Rose to hold him back
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>>68949624
nigger what
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>>68950156
Pics?
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>>68950156
Post the pic
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>>68950047
Not even that, lmao.
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>>68950156
>mfw
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>>68949679
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S H O O K
H
O
O
K
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>>68950385
Lmao, someone post the replies. I bet the first one is the gangbang one
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>>68947889
>>68947901
Almost makes me wish you hadn't replied

>Jokic and Porzingis
You talk about Jokic barely playing, but Jokic only played 314 minutes less than Porzingis, and that's mainly due to Denver having more quality big-men (Nurkic and Lauvergne, who's been decent).
So if you normalize their stats by minutes, Jokic has been posting a just as good statline, if not better (16.5/(3.8/7.9)/3.9/1.6/1.0 on 51%/33%/81% as opposed to KP's 18.1/(2.3/6.9)/1.6/0.9/2.4 on 42%/33%/83%).

Advanced stats clearly favor Jokic too.

But it's not about the stats, Jokic has shown rare qualities for someone his size, a 5 able to pass like that is very rare, and when combined with his developed post game, well above average defense and solid shooting all-around makes him for me the better player.

>Giannis
yeah, wanted to correct the part about his shooting.
He made just as big of an impact for his team, despite the spacing issues, but also notice that in April he went 10/22 for 3 in 7 games.
So his shooting is not much to worry about since it's fixable.
Didn't mean to diminish Melo, he's obviously the better scorer and technically better than Giannis, but in my opinion, Giannis has been the more productive player this season, especially after the ASB.

Will check out a Knicks game or two later, should I watch a specific game or any mid-season game is good?

>Melo one of the best defenders in the NBA this season.
Again, need to watch him play more.
His Diff% has not been this impressive (was lower than Steph's and PG's in the reg season for that matter), and this stat is not really accurate (players like Redick and Mozgov are at the top while Faried, Rubio and CP3 are at the bottom).
Other defensive stats like DBPM (which we both agreed that it's the most reliable one and is even negative for Melo), DWS and BKRef's individual DRtg clearly favor Giannis, box score stats too.
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>According to NBA.com, the Thunder scored seven points more per 100 possessions without Waiters on the court.

http://www.welcometoloudcity.com/2016/6/21/11973908/2015-2016-thunder-player-grades-dion-waiters-step-back-worth-keeping

DION THE GOD WAITERS BABY

9PPG, A -7 PLUS MINUS

HE BALLIN NIGGAS

KOBE WADE GONNA BE AN ALL STAR
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>>68950385
kek
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>>68950385
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>>68947889
>>68947901
>PG
He has been returning from a very tough injury, so it's not that fair to criticize him.

But
>legitimately didn't contribute anything offensively for half of the regular season
He had 24 ppg on 56% TS% with 4 assists and almost identical numbers in the 2nd half.

He was amazing on both sides of the court in the playoffs, DeRozan playing like a turd through the whole playoffs shouldn't take any credit from PG's D (especially with the effort he has been putting on offense).

>Rose
arguing about every PG is pointless, I agree with you that he's not a top PG but not a bottom one anymore.

Rose simply hasn't been as efficient driving and finishing as he used to be, his FG% for layups was actually lower in the second half of the season.

There is not a single reason for Butler to be #2, he's the better player, and if Rose can't bring his game when not being clear first, he's gonna have hard time in NY when he's 3rd (4th if KD's really coming).
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>>68934444

>tfw he goes to the knicks and the media starts forcing a new "big 3" with melo, durant, and rose
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Ayesha cost curry a championship and now shes trying to cost him a contract.
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>>68950462
That's 7 points that would win the WCF
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>>68950156
>not being able to handle bantz
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Is anyone else even trying?
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>>68950385
>husbands
>Kyrie

Nah senpai
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>>68950445
>>68950502
>Germany vs Israel
This is always my favourite episode of /nba/
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Honestly you have to be a pathetic person to send those kind of pictures to a person you've never met.
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>>68950624
this btc meme isnt funny
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>>68950385
Who is the other side that is being insulted? I dont think the cavs feel insulted by curry taking Ls
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>>68950440
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>>68950760
I thought the British were the masters at bantz
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>>68950760
>Honestly you have to be a pathetic person to send those kind of pictures to a person you've never met.
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>>68950440
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>>68950760
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>>68950440
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>>68950440
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so I read some negative reactions about this guy shooting free throws underhanded and was wonder if its because its the rules in the nba
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>>68947377
your post is agreeing with me, retard
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>>68950440
my favorite
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>>68951008

against the rules*
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>Call the game rigged
>After her husband threw his mouthpiece like a child
>After he got his shit thrown by Bron, who then shit talked him
>In the Process of blowing a 3-1 lead after talking shit
>After a unanimous MVP season
>After 73 wins

They literally have to win the title next year, and ONLY then will the mocking stop. So we have at least a year of full on L posting.
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>>68950930
Thank you merchant
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>>68950385
>I could care less
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>>68951008
>against the rules
Nope, one of the best free throw shooters of all time shot it underhand:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU88dxJKTHI
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>>68951246
>>68951246
>>68951246
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>>68950760
>>68950820
There are simply two kinds of British. Masters of bantz for whom nothing is too far and bleeding heart whiteknighting cucks.
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>>68951244

okay I just wanted to make sure
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>>68951008
>>68951557
Some guys just aren't willing to do it for ego reasons even if it might help their percentage. It's uncommon and seen as a somewhat weak if not effeminate way to shoot FTs.
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>>68939354
There's always golf
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