Boxing is a better sport than MMA. Prove me wrong
>protip: don't try and save yourselves the headache and let the thread die. MMA will always be boxing's retarded cousin.
Take the gloves out of the equation and I'd actually start watching boxing. Otherwise, no.
>>67369428
>I do not know shit about boxing or the human body: the post.
>>67369242
/ABOUT BILLIONS/
>>67369242
Dude, you're just going to have to accept that there are people who don't appreciate artistry involved, and prefer the brutality of mixed-martial arts. For them, masterful footwork, slipping punches while scoring off a jab and a war of constant attrition bores the living daylights out of them. They'd rather see fighters knocked out in a flash or forced to submit.
You can make all the chess/checkers comparisons you want, but when it comes down to it, it's just a matter of taste.
>>67369242
how is that even a question?
>>67369951
There's no question in OPs post.
>>67369873
Boxing is much more brutal than MMA.
What are some genuinely brutal Boxing matches I could watch?
Preferable recent stuff, just two guys slugging at eachother
>>67371329
Diego Corrales vs Jose Luis Castillo(GOAT SLUG FEST)
Lebedev vs Jones
Miura vs Vargas
Miura vs Uchiyama
Gatti Ward (overrated in my opinion)
Gatti Augustus ( underrated in my opinion)
Marquez vs Vazquez 1-3
Berrera Morales 1 and 3 (a lot of technical aspects in those 2 fights a casual wouldn't notice)
Matthysee vs Molina
>>67369242
Nothing to prove wrong
>>67371329
Vitali Lewis
Boxing is for closeted homos that cant fight
Are you a closeted homo that cant fight?
Of course you are
>>67371273
Only when they brawl instead of box. The best boxers are rarely hurt and even then most boxers can continue to box for years with little wear on their bodies. (1)The average MMA fighter's professional career lasts 3 years, and only half of that is spent fighting for a major promotion. A professional boxer's career can span anywhere from a few years to a few decades, not to mention this is is in addition to amateur experience which is arguably less brutal, but far more noteworthy than training to be a blackbelt in judo or jiujistu at a gym and occasionally participating in a tournament.
Suffice it to say, Boxing is generally, not as brutal as MMA. It's more rigorous, which requires far better conditioning to last 30-45 minutes in the ring, but it's not as devastating to your health. Freak accidents like what happened in Russia when Kovalev killed a guy, or when Nick Blackwell was placed in an induced coma to stop brain bleeding, is relatively uncommon. Less so in MMA.
>>67371458
>>67371329
Povodnikov v Bradley was brutal as fuck and more recent.
I used to think boxing was tough until I got into wrestling and BJJ.
Honestly, grappling is far more draining. Secondly, as soon as a boxer touches the mat, it's fucking over. He's just fucking done.
Just look at James Toney vs Chuck. Chuck smashed him like I smashed that fucking like button last night famigos.
>>67371893
>The average MMA fighter's professional career lasts 3 years
do you have a source for that
also if you want to see high level footwork, speed, and technique in MMA, watch a Dominick Cruz or Demetrious Johnson fight
it's there in the sport, but I agree MMA hasn't been around long enough and covers a much broader skillset than boxing, so MMA fighters are rarely able to develop the depth of technique in one area that boxers can
>>67369242
I don't need to
Have fun with your dying sport friend
>>67371935
>Secondly, as soon as a boxer touches the mat, it's fucking over.
When 2 people attack 1 Wrestler, what good is it trying to take someone to the ground?
If you took my friend to the ground trying to penetrate him, I would boot you into the head.
>>67371935
Hm.. not sure tough would be the right word, because boxing really is tough. Mastering the sport takes ridiculous amounts of dedication and a lot of natural ability, most of which consists of footwork, accuracy and conditioning. If you mean it's easy to get in the ring and just trade blows, then yeah, that bit isn't tough. To be great, you really need to put in more work.
That said, grappling is very draining, but then again, in MMA you only have to do it for 15 to 25 minutes at a time, and even then, you really don't need to do it the whole time. Conditioning is still really important, but far less important than it is for world-class championship boxing. Once you reach that level, it becomes your most important attribute.
>>67371893
>tl;Dr I don't know what I am talking about.
>>67372058
Referring to a sport setting
The same logic can be applied to what you said about a street fight
If you tried to attack me 2 on 1, I could pull a knife out and start stabbing
Or because I'm an American, shoot you
>>67372023
Sure, I can try to dig up a few, but 3 years is the general figure most former pros I know throw around. The ones who last longer typically do so for a good reason (they managed to stay out of danger, or end fights quickly through submissions throughout most of their careers).
https://combatsportslaw.com/tag/average-ufc-fighter-career-length/
This confirms the average length of a career with a major promotion, though.
>>67372143
When you knock someone on the ground in Boxing, you give them some time to recover, that is called SPORT.
In MMA when you knock someone down, you then jump on them and pummel their face relentlessly, that is NOT called SPORT.
>>67372143
>talking about street fighting on the sports board
>>>/k/
>>67372023
>hitting someone down
>choking
Those are my main problems with MMA.
Also it doesn't have the Noble aura of boxing but maybe it will have it in a few decades.
>>67372282
Pussy
>>67372316
>attitude of MMA fans
Definitely the worst aspect there is to it.
We're talking about sports not violence.
Boxing fans are the most fedora tipping insecure sperglords
>>67372342
No one cares what you think, pussy.
Violence is a part of the sport, its fucking fighting
Go try and box in a street fight then see what happens when you ask him to stop choking you
>>67372342
The majority of MMA fans are under the age of 18.
>>67372381
And youre a fat sack of shit aspie
>>67372129
Sure I don't.
>>67372023
Right, MMA does have some fighters who display spectacular footwork, but it's not really the key focus of the sport. Most of the fighters who do display it have a background in boxing or kickboxing. They've just got so many other things they have to focus on that they really can't afford to get too attached to any one thing. As a result, it makes for a very effective fighter, but it's far less eloquent.
>>67372398
Eloquent, from a boxing perspective, seeing good striking is seeing good striking
These people have to deal with kicks and takedowns too, their footwork is far more practical and eloquent in that way
>>67372381
Is the average american football fan like this too?
>>67372377
Why do Mixed Martial Autist fans always come back to this
MUH street fighting MUH street fighting
Nigga were on a sports board. None of you fucking faggots on this board who constantly equate MMA to street fighting haven't been in either.if you had, you wouldn't equate them. Street fighting is for dumbasses. If someone tries to fight me on the street they are getting their ass beat by 15 spics who don't give one fuck about MUH one on one MUH fair fight or if I'm by myself you're getting shot and laid on. Street fighting=\= combat sports.
>>67372377
Street fighting isn't a sport, it's assault. Also, arguably responsible for almost killing the Rocky franchise.
Diaz though
>>67372474
>>67372377
The first rule of a street fight is you NEVER go to the ground
That's just asking for someone to start stomping your head from behind
Very rarely are you dealing with a one on one situation in a street fight and the last thing you want is to be vulnerable on the ground when a guy decides to take out a knife or his friends comes up to knock you out with a kick to the head
>>67372454
Youre a fucking total dumbass aspie
Its a more pure form of fighting, thats it.
Youre just a dumb little shit who knows most of his heroes would get dropped on their head in a second
Same with you
>>67372397
>the petulant reaction of a wounded child: the post
>>67372497
>>67372516
>>67372502
You've never been in an actual fight or seen an actual fight
>>67372427
Not sure I'd use the word eloquent to describe dodging tackles (either by sprawling or slipping attempts), or rolling around on the ground while struggling to establish position. It's certainly challenging, difficult, and for those who become proficient at, impressive, but eloquent? Yeah, not sold on that.
>>67372542
>>67372515
>the reaction of a fat aspie crying through his fat rolls and exhaling his vape clouds with Prince Naseem highlight vids in the background
>>67372551
Neither have you, if you think going to the fucking ground in a street fight is a smart thing to do (protip, having a fight at school while a bunch of people stand around and watch is not a "street fight")
>>67372561
Of course you cant find "eloquence" in it
You dont understand it
>>67372568
>I'm still under the age of 18: the sequel.
Dude stop. You're embarrassing every legit MMA fan here.
>>67372542
That was classy.
>>67372565
>>67372595
>>67372590
No one gives a shit
Youre an embarrassment to yourself and everyone you know because such a cringey aspie talking high and might on a board for Japanese autism
>>67372578
Do you think every fight is against a gang of knife wielding outlaws?
>>67372595
>>67372604
>>67372542
Yeah, diaz can trade and has decent accuracy, but as a boxing fan you have to cringe at this shit. He's displaying no defense, dropping his hands and taking shots he doesn't need to take so he can mug his opponents. Again, I get why people like MMA but this just lacks finesse.
>>67372179
t. Conor
https://youtu.be/WDc3vKREhfM
>observation
>patience
>quick and incisive hits
>counters
>>67372578
This.
I grew up in Miami in some real fucking ghetto women sucking dick for crack areas. Street fighting always ends with a gun being pulled, one person getting jumped by like 10 people, felony battery, or in many cases attempted murder or even sometimes fucking murder charges.
Stay om /heem/ kids and keep telling yourself MUH mma works in MUH street fight.
None of you have been in either. If you had you wouldn't be equating a combat SPORT to a STREET fight.
>tl;Dr leave your basement once your balls drop and realize how stupid you are.
>>67372638
Boxing finesse.
They arent boxing
Is that hard to understand?
>>67372635
What's going on here? No one wants to make the first move because of countering.
>>67372622
Nope, but a street fight is too full of unknowns to think you're in a fucking MMA ring
If you're smart, you'll be kicking the guy in the balls and dropping him as quick as you can
Not trying to wrestle and choke him out, you petulant child
>>67372608
>aspie
No one over the age of 18 says aspie and if they do, they spend entirely too much time on the board we are all posting on.
Keep exposing yourself dude. You are fundamentally incapable of speaking like a grown man because you are a little boy and it shows in every autistic reaction you have toward me.
>>67372638
They're two different sports, and even if they were the same all individual fighters are always going to be different in their own way.
I enjoy both boxing & MMA.
>>67369242
apples are better than oranges. prove me wrong.
>protip: OP's a fucking imbecile.
>>67372670
No one is actually dumb enough to randomly get into fights with people in shitholes other than you
Obviously if someone pulls a gun it doesnt mean you go for a single leg
Sure as hell doesnt mean you square up and try to shoulder roll through bullets either
That doesnt mean MMA isnt more practical fighting
>>67372635
Kek'd I like provocation but this is too much imo, he just looks stupid.
>>67372680
Obviously if you fucking dummy. What does that have to do with MMA not being more natural fighting?
You dont fucking go in a southpaw stance either with a guy holding a broken bottle
>>67372583
Uh.. no, I do understand it. I just don't agree with your interpretation of the word eloquent, nor do I feel it's the appropriate adjective to ascribe to those specific actions. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but just because someone disagrees with your description of something doesn't mean they don't understand or appreciate it in their own way.
>>67372693
You sound like such a fucking manchild
>>67372713
>That doesnt mean MMA isnt more practical fighting
Nobody said that.
But it's not because it is practical fighting that it is fit to be a sport.
>>67369242
my grandpa was a pro boxer back in the day, and when I showed him mma for the first time (he originally thought it was gay as fuck), he said "wow I wish we had this when I was younger, it always pissed me off how I couldn't throw elbows"
>>67372670
where you from, homie? Liberty City? Little Haiti? Overtown? i lived in Hialeah for a while and it was never that bad over there. sure, there are some dumb ass thugs around, but you could avoid them. i moved to downtown/edgewater when i finally made some bank after some years in ft lauderdale.
>>67372734
>im right youre wrong even though i clearly know nothing of grappling
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but just because someone disagrees with your description of something doesnt mean they dont understand or appreciate it in their own way
>>67372746
Then whining about real life situations is irrelevant and this conversation is stupid
>>67372765
Carol City
Opa Locka
Lived in Little Haiti till I was 10
Spent time in TGK
Ironically enough live in Ft Lauderdale now.
>>67372676
no, I understand that they're not, but that wasn't my point. Boxing is often more artful, while MMA is generally less so. And that's great in its own way, since it caters to people who enjoy brawling, sprawling and knockouts. Nothing wrong with that. To each his own.
>>67372825
Apparently not since you're obviously forcing non-existant narratives then complaining about someone else's perception of things
What a pretentious load of shit
>>>>67372791
ha. i worked in an Opa Locka warehouse for a summer. Little Haiti gets whack. i only swing by there for Churchill's. never been to Carol City but it's reputation is well known in the 305.
when i moved up to ft lauderdale, it was quite the change of pace. the city's cleaner, the people nice, etc. might move back up if i find a good job up there.
>>67372746
>fit to be a sport
That's entirely subjective m8
>>67372696
Yeah, that's true. I wasn't saying that they're the same thing or anything. I'm just saying I prefer boxing because you usually don't end up seeing shit like that (mugging, lack of defense, etc.) — there's a greater show of sportsmanship. I get how some people don't really care as much about that as I do, and I think MMA definitely appeals to that crowd. Nothing wrong that. People like what they like.
>>67372894
>sportsmanship is prolonging your opponents brain damage
>>67372877
Ft Lauderdale can be gutter in some parts. I lived in sistrunk for a bit before I got a real job.
I saw a dude get put in a coma across the street from the Swap Shop. Lauderhill is pretty awful too.
But Broward is generally nicer than dade. Has just as many drugs though.
100% people only go into boxing because they're afraid of getting a shin to the chin
>>67372881
As I said earlier, MMA don't have a Noble aura yet.
Also even if it is a tiny thing, fighting in a "cage" is not as glorious as on a "ring"
A cage is for animals, a ring is for athletes and entertainers.
>>67372282
>Noble aura of boxing
that's mainly something you associate with boxing, I don't think boxing has a "noble aura" to it at all
>choking
it's a part of the sport
it's also often much less damaging to the fighter getting choked than a knockout
that's as nonsensical as saying that you don't like boxing because you have a problem with uppercuts
>>67372965
Boxing fans are pretentious aspies that have never fought in their lives
>>67372946
Canada go home you had too much syrup on your pancakes.
>>67372984
You sound like a pussy
>>67372973
Dude I destroyed you already you're underaged leave this board.
>>67373005
This is what Im talking about
You are such a little pussy, its adorable
You literally sound like a fucking 12 year old
>>67372766
I'm sorry, I'm just trying to establish how you believe I know nothing about grappling given any of my previous statements in this reply thread. I haven't expressed any opinions on grappling that show a lack of understanding, so I'm guessing you're just inferring that based on my statement that grappling in general isn't "eloquent." What you're failing to understand is that the term is subjective. One person can find something eloquent, while another person views it as gauche.
That said, I never said you were wrong in your view that it's eloquent, just that I don't believe that's the term I would use to describe it. It's not a "you're wrong, I'm right" proposition, but you're certainly trying to make it one. Maybe just relax and realize not everyone is trying to argue with you.
>>67373017
You literally are a 12 year old.
>>67372984
Somebody ordered pancakes I just sip the sizzurp
>>67373026
You basically marginalized grappling to dodging tackles
Thats stupid and a fraction of it
I think its eloquent and you come off as some pretentious shit telling me im wrong while saying i should be mindful of others opinions
>>67373050
Free Gucci Mane
RIP Pimp C
>>67372922
okay, you made me chuckle.
>>67373063
TYBG
>>67373055
My lack of elaboration does not equate to a failure to understand — I honestly didn't want to type out every aspect of the MMA clinch/ground game — but if it makes you feel any better, I'll just let you keep believing that I'm clueless.
>>67373107
You didnt want to because you dont get it. You wouldnt have surmised it so stupidly if you did
>>67373038
Good comeback, pussy
>>67373239
>I was still born in 2004: the post.
>>67373250
>i was born in 2006 with a vagina: the poster
this thread is terrible and not worthy of the sport of boxing
>>67372945
haven't lived up there in a while. i lived on davie blvd not far from las olas and riverfront. worked in pompano. i guess i never saw the rougher parts of town.
>>67373135
Well actually, the reason I only mentioned those specific aspects are because they're the only ones I would remotely describe as graceful or eloquent, though I still feel either would be an inaccurate adjective to describe them. I'd use terms like skillful, challenging, difficult or impressive instead. Again, this whole debate is subjective, but whatever.
>>67372172
But they fight for years outside the UFC. This also doesn't account for shitters who came in and lost 3 then were booted. The good fighters stay for almost a decade or at least 5 years at the top of their divisions.
>>67369242
>MMA is enjoyable
>Boxing is enjoyable
I grew up watching Boxing and my dad put me into the Nevada Golden Gloves program.
That being said, I really enjoy watching MMA- and indeed every other form of competitive fighting. Tried it for a year, but couldn't get over the pure amount of suck that I am on the mat.
Let us, and people how enjoy fighting, just enjoy all the fights we get to watch in the ring; regardless of the form they use.
>I'm also excited for that new Armored Weapon Fighting. That looks fun as hell.
>>67372638
If you were an actual boxing fan you would understand that "keep your hands up" is the shittiest defence coaching possible in boxing much less with small mma gloves. I mean, in boxing people sneak hooks and straights through the guard, imagine having 4oz gloves on. Being out of range, parrying, rolling with shots then blocking as a last resort. Using your forehead as a last, last resort. In a sport where blocking is almost completely useless and head movement gets you caught with kicks and knees much easier "keep your hands up" is shit advice when it wont do anything.
I like MMA and Boxing, and think that the Heavyweight division in boxing is due for a comeback. I really would love to see the winner of Tyson Fury vs Klitschko face Wilder.
Would absolutely love to see GGG vs Canelo. I think boxing has some good fights coming up in the next few years, it's just all about whether the promotions let the top fighters actually fight each other instead of ducking to remain undeafeted.
>>67373799
I think you're missing what I said. 3 years at a professional level (world class) and 1.5 on average at a major promotion. Keep in mind that this is an average. We're not talking about the stars who manage to last 5-10 years because they keep winning in such a spectacular fashion that their bodies don't take the same amount of punishment as their opponents.
>>67374735
Likely won't happen due to politics. In fact, you can blame Al Haymon for that one. He likes to pad Wilder's record by placing him in the ring with sub-par competition. I think Wilder is capable, but he'll remain untested until Haymon gets over his beef with other promoters like Top Rank and Eddie Hearn over in the UK.
Golovkin is a beast with an insane work ethic. If Canelo stops acting like a diva, I'm sure that fight can happen. What's interesting is that Golovkin has talked about doing MMA in the future if he continues to dominate boxing's middleweight division and grows bored since he's done some Jujitsu and kickboxing and really enjoys it. If he demolishes people with those gloves on, I can only imagine how insane he'd be without them.
>>67372954
Why not add more padding to the gloves? Better yet, make the gloves pillows.
Faggot.
>>67371329
>>67371458
nice fights, but none as brutal as this all time great - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTKioYMkm9c
>>67372474
>>67372497
these looked terrible, I actually started laughing.
>>67372516
This one wasn't too bad. Though am I the only one who think an elbow digging into your forearm when throwing an uppercut looks more painful than anything?
>>67372565
Khan tier chin
>>67369242
I for real thought Manny died that fight.
>>67375552
Diaz can hold his own against the best in MMA, and I wouldn't doubt he could hold his own against the best in boxing too. It doesn't matter whether or not it "looked terrible," just that it's effective, which it is.
>>67375552
>Khan tier chin
It's different when you're wearing 4oz gloves
>>67376224
typical MMAbaby logic. There was a time when Boxers used 4oz. gloves too and I can safely say that his chin is pure glass.
Crowd better hope that it's safety glass too.
MMA fighters in general have shit tier striking and weak chins, this isn't news. It was hilarious hearing Rogan talking about how Nate Diaz is one of the best strikers on par with boxers
LMFAO
>>67375340
>pillows
You are uniformed about boxing and the human body.
Boxers wrap their hands, then tape them then put the gloves on. Its not to protect their head; you severely underestimate the devastating power of a boxers punch. It is a McMeme punch. Its a punch that will dent a car and break every bone in the hand. The gloves are to protect the hands, allowing you to continuously pound at a mans thick skull without breaking your hand and ending the fight.
I'm 99% sure you have never clocked with a boxing glove. I would much rather catch a bare knuckle than a glove.
>tl;Dr you're a faggot learn you shit.
>>67375318
Dude you didn't hear??
AJ just signed with show time. Wilder Joshua's is almost a sure thing in the near future.
Also, Adrian Granados, a showtime fighter , might be on an HBO undercard pretty soon.
I think HBO is more of the problem. Haymon has done his fair share of misdeeds though. I hope that PBC doesn't end
>>67375705
>you will never hear the collective gasp and shriek of every Filipino on earth.
>>67369242
http://mmajunkie.com/2016/04/with-enough-time-to-learn-grappling-roy-jones-jr-would-have-tried-mma-in-his-youth
>>67369242
Maybe a few years back. MMA will always be pro-wrestling's autistic brother
>people think leather stuffed with horsehair is soft
post boxing and mma knockouts
>>67378748
Why do you rarely ever see anyone getting KO'd in boxing then? And why does it take so many punches to the face to knock them out?
>>67379391
You serious? Is this bait?
Watch boxing. Theres literally knock outs every fucking weekend. And the same way some MMA fighters don't fight for the KO some boxers don't either. And more importantly, boxers have CHINS.
>>67379170
They haven't gotten hit by it.
>>67379391
https://youtu.be/7xR6zKR0bTQ
>>67379391
>Why do you rarely ever see anyone getting KO'd in boxing then?
Why do retards like you attempt to discuss the sport? I'm guessing you shitpost in /tv/ or something about movies you haven't watched
GGG vs. Danny Jacobs when
>>67369509
its actually proven bare knuckle boxing is much safer than with gloves. The extra mass and protection of the glove causes more head trauma and fighters can throw way harder punches. Without gloves they need to throw more conservative punches and avoid breaking their hands.
Watching elite kickboxers is better than either.
>tfw kickboxing isn't a bigger sport
>>67380506
danny jacobs is trash
why would he ever fight gennady
>>67385966
That chin will split wide open.
>>67380710
no fucking way rofl
>>67380506
does he really want to get KOd by a slickRussain again?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyzX6WhJ-f4
>those feints
>>67390867
Pirog vs Golovkin would have been great.
Those feints were sick.
>>67380710
nah most kickboxers are scum bags arabs
>>67369242
>MMA will always be boxing's retarded cousin
That's pretty ironic considering how many retired boxers with completely fried brains there are
>>67392135
Vitali Klitchsko Retired boxer, PHD - Mayor of Kiev
Manny Pacquiao - Retired Boxer, most likely going to be a senator in the Philippines
Alexis Arguello- Retired Boxer- mayor of Managua
Floyd Mayweather- Retired boxer- business mogul
George Foreman- Retired Boxer- business mogul
War Machine- Retired MMA fighter - failed male porn star and domestic spouse abuser.
boxers confirmed based.
>>67379506
>boxers have CHINS
because they have pillows wrapped around their hands
>>67369242
>MMA will always be boxing's retarded cousin.
Might as well say "basketball will always be soccer's retarded cousin." Here's your (You).
>>67392218
>how to automatically spot someone who has never boxed or fought before in their entire life: the post.
You're retarded.
>>67392409
No you got it all wrong, soccer is basketballs poor cousin.
>>67392180
>that cherry picking
my sides. None of those guys can pick up a mic and talk intelligently like a Dom Cruz or a Sonnen.
>>67392180
Alexis Arguello is criminally underrated. As is his first fight with Aaron Pryor. My dad was in the Orange bowl watching it. Fucking epic.
>>67392459
Gtfo
>>67392444
I've been punched in the face with a glove and without a glove, and getting punched without a glove is much worse.
>>67392459
>mortgage fraud
Niggas dumb. Bill Cosby could also talk intelligently too.
>>67376584
You dont know what striking is
>>67392512
>how to automatically spot someone who has never boxed or fought before in their entire life: the sequel.
>>67392530
shut up nerd. go back to watching your glorified pillow fighting.
>>67392513
>Implying him involved in crime somehow doesn't mean he's more intelligent.
You're so fucking stupid it hurts. Here's your (You).
>>67392135
how would that be a counter argument? if it was true (and probably is) it means that in fact boxing requires more endurance, conditioning, chin and is a more violent sport. All facts that are usually true tbqh
>>67392180
kek
>>67392218
why do people still believe that lmao. it's al4ready been confirmed many times that boxing gloves do not offer more protection than mma gloves, also mma fighters have shitty punches anyway most of the time
>>67392542
>I still have never been in a fight: the post
>>67376584
shit tier boxing skills you mean.
>>67392571
>I still enjoy watching men hit each other with pillows strapped to their fists
>>67392552
>this guy speaks eloquently so he must be smarter than me
>>67392593
>I still don't know what I am talking about: the post.
Leather is known for being tough. If you think a leather glove is a pillow fist, you are underaged or retarded.
>>67392617
>anon has no arguments so he repeats himself
>>67369242
>Boxing fans are perpetually insecure about their own sport
Yeah, not about to watch a "sport" that caters to faggots like that
>>67392640
Leather is not as tough as an unpadded human fist.
>>67392647
You have a weak mind and are easy to manipulate if speaking intelligently is the definition of intelligence to you. The guys clearly a retard along with 90% of the UFC.
>>67392678
Every time you speak you expose how little you know.
UFC is so 2015
>>67392678
>pillow fist
Yea okay.
>>67392713
I think the same, but you instead of me.
>>67392759
>I think
Yea but I know.
>>67392787
You don't know shit.
>>67392695
Okay anon. Believe whatever you want to believe.
Why don't people ever talk about k1 or full contact martial arts.
I watch mma and guys just completely drop their guad and don't know how to check kicks or use their knees to check tackles.
i cant
mma is fucking trash and only survives due to hyped up meme fighters
>>67369242
>gets media attention 2 times a year
Boxing is literally Crossfit tier since Mayweather retired. Nobody ever talks about it.
>mfw some bum from ireland with a funny accent became a bigger star in 2 years than all of boxing's "talent" combined
>>67392832
Nigga what the fuck is this pussy shit?
>>67392875
just another case of domestic abuse. don't stress.
>>67392868
>I only know memes
>>67392729
Wow the poor dude's face is swelling. BTFO
>>67392868
ah yes, another artificially created hype job that got horribly exposed just like the "female mike tyson" ronda rousey, then pretended to retire just to bring more much needed attention to your pathetic "sport".
>>67392868
>litterally 1m $ highest payday ever
> canelo-khan making more money only this weekend
>"bigger" star
>>67392888
>superficial injuries
Kek dude you're embarrassing yourself just stop.
I didn't even know people that think boxing is more exciting than mma still existed.
>pillowhug
>>67369242
Boxing is just a part of MMA.
It's like saying steering wheels are better than cars. Or that putting is better than golf.
Absolutely retarded and redundant statement. Consider suicide for being such a fucking idiot.
>>67392926
Amir Khan is walking out with 12mil BEFORE ppv splits
>>67392926
McGoober is guaranteed to make 10 mil for his next fight
>>67392915
>Look at me I don't know how the entertainment industry works
>>67392955
13 million
MMA is infinitely more exciting and requires so much more skill. Everything that boxing utilizes is utilized in MMA, but then MMA has literally a million more variables that fighters need to take into account and train for.
tl;dr pillowhug is a ded shit sport
>>67392954
Boxing
Kick boxing
Muay Thai
Wrestling
BJJ
All much tougher than MMA. Just because you threw a bunch a shit together doesn't make it better or tougher.
>>67392950
this fight was average as fuck don't understand the hype at all desu
>>67392964
The number 1 MMA star is making what fucking B side to this weeks event is making.
Thank you for further proving the point.
>>67392986
Retard logic.
>>67392992
>these things are all tougher, but all put together they become pussy shit
just stop, this is becoming embarrassing
>>67392964
>MMA
>entertaining
don't be mad your sport's talent pool is so shallow and the sport so unpopular that you're literally left watching the same 3-4 bums fight each other over and over and the only way you can get mainstream attention is via talentless meme fighters.
>>67393009
>Retard logic.
great argument. i'll take it you concede the point then?
>>67392964
and yet canelo khan still making more money
>>67392986
Boxing is more exciting it has has the most exciting boxers it has had for years Joshua,GGG,Canelo and all UFC has Rowdy and McGregor and Lawler and Lawler is only exciting as he trades and does not spend most of the fight bumming like most of the UFC do. Only WWE fans watch UFC it's dead in UK and most of Europe now only Ireland like it.
>>67393038
TIMBER!
>>67393018
>this britburka
>>67393041
And Tiger Woods has a higher net worth than Mayweather. Dosen't mean im gonna watch some boring ass golf over MMA.
>>67393017
No it becomes watered down and soft.
MMA sounds great on paper. In practice? Dog shit that reverts to homo crawl.
>>67393051
shut the fuck up you shitposting cunt, go back to heem
>>67369242
Boxing Is only 1/3 of an actual fight. I cant take it as serious as MMA. All that hand speed and power mean jack shit if you get taken down and don't know how to grapple. Plus, too many weight classes and orgs. Look at Manny vs Floyd and how long it took them to finally fight. That shit wouldn't go down in MMA.
>>67393095
depends on the fighter
>>67393051
>it's dead in UK
I wonder why. It might have something to do with your most successful fighter being Michael fucking Bisping.
>>67393095
>MMA sounds great on paper. In practice? Dog shit that reverts to homo crawl.
you are a true word smith my friend. very well said
>>67393080
Can't blame brits for not liking MMA.
>>67393115
should we know who that is?
>>67393097
>actual fight
Nigga were on a sports bread
>>>/k/
>>67393162
never heard of him. probably because MMA is irrelevant outside of american rednecks and the bandwagoners who follow the latest meme fighter.
>>67392992
If that were true, then how come fighters don't just stick to one discipline and then just win every fight, every belt and become a legend? Seems pretty straightforward.
Oh wait, they can't because they'd get BTFO by someone who can actually fight.
>it's like real fighting guys
>>67393125
>filename
>>67393180
MMA is a religion in Brazil.
>guys this is just like real fighting.
>>67393180
USA, Brazil, Netherlands, Japan, Canada....
Honestly, you guys are even worse at soccer than you are MMA so why do you still follow it?
>>67393190
Your >10 year ex heavyweight champion clinched more than most mma fighters. Does this seem like a real fight?
>>67393196
Boxing is huge in
Mexico
China
Russia
UK
USA
Puerto Rico
Cuba
Literally every country except Brazil.
>Average MMA fan
>>67393216
Real fights are like that though. You're going to get someone's crotch in your face.
Real fights aren't Hollywood movies m8. They're brutal. Messy. Uncoordinated. Unscripted and awkward.
>REAL FIGHTING YES YES YES OMG MY EYES CANT HANDLE IT.
>>67393089
you just went full retard mate. what the fuck does golf have in common with mma & boxing. also he was talking about mcmemegregor being a bigger star (that is also making more money) than boxing talents which i demonstrated to be false since a fight that wasnt even supposed to happen between two non-top tier fighters is splitting 15-20 times the money your star has ever made
also
>speaks about exicting sport/fight
>>67393190
>>67393216
> so much this
>>67393190
>>67393216
https://youtu.be/MWQs8nMsZNg
>2 professional boxers
>fight goes to the ground after 2 seconds
case closed
>>67393252
No douche bag. A school yard fight in your prep school isn't a real fight.
>>67393219
Boxing is more popular in all those country than MMA. MMA is meme tier
>>67393240
Nigga were on a sports board. Boxing is a sport. Its you MMAutist that continue to say that MMA is real fighting when its not its a fucking sport douche bag.
>>67393216
kek
>>67393288
>prep school
No idea what this is.
>>67393285
chisora is a dirty cunt that's why
>>67393285
>guys this is so hardcore.
>>67393288
Boxing is worse than soccer, and that's saying something.
>MMA threads on /sp/ literally constantly
>Boxing gets discussed 3 times a year or when the sperglords throw a hissy fit
>>67393324
>I never watched a boxing match in my entire life: the post.
>tfw this man went full 8 rounds with broken jaw and yet he won
> mma fights last 10 minutes less than that
MMgay will be dead in 20 years when they run out of meme fighters to feed the media.
>>67393041
People who like boxing don't know how to use the internet.
>>67393333
I watched Canelo vs. Mayweather and it was one of the most boring things I've ever seen in my life.
>>67393332
>/sp/
>any sort of measurement for taste or real world success
Stop it. You're embarrassing yourself.
>>67378748
MMA punches are just as hard if not harder than boxer's punches you massive, massive retard.
The padding in boxing is because boxing is for pussies who are concerned about muh safety despite not realising that they cause more long-term damage than no-gloves.
MMA gloves are all it takes to protect your hands, and in fact, strapping would be enough providing you do it right.
You have absolutely no clue about the science behind punching. Stop posting.
>>67393358
These are the same fags who thought wrestling was real into their late teens. Don't expect too much.
>>67393356
Well no shit, every Mayweather fight is going to be like that. Especially against a 22 year old overweight Oscar Dr LA Hoya hype job cash cow.
Go watch Miura vs Vargas, Earl Vs Katsidis, Corrales vs. Castillo little bo.
>>67393267
Amir Khan instagram : 793k followers
Twitter:1.7 mil
FB:Mil
Conor Instagram:4.8 mil
twitter: 1.7 mil
FB:3.5 mil
Conor last fight: 1.5 Milion PPV BUYS
Khan last fight:averages 811,000 viewers on FREE TV.
>>67393333
Boxing might be fun to watch if the gloves were smaller and you weren't allowed to clinch constantly.
>>67393356
because you clearly cant understand the art of boxing at its finest
>>67393344
>Hitting him when he was down
Fucking apes, man
>>67393344
Basically. And that would be Mike Tyson vs Ronda Rousey too.
It's just a matter of time before boxing becomes extinct. Can't wait personally.
>>67393373
Khan FB:4 mil.*
>>67393332
>/sp/
wew lad
>Fat fuck fedora boxingfags still reeking of insecurity and their unwashed fat rolls
Hilarious
>>67393382
You keep going until it's over, noob. There's a chance he could have recovered and hit him with an up-kick. You keep going until the referee calls it.
>>67393358
>claim boxing is hugely popular
>literally nobody is talking about it since the events are so isolated
>once there finally is one the sperglords come out of the woodwork and tell everyone that boxing is more popular
90% of the people watching these ppvs couldn't name you a single fighter from the rest of the card
Why do MMA fans only seem to exist on the internet?
>>67393379
>art of boxing
Kek, you sound like such a fagot. You'd get your ass beat, hard
>>67393365
Fucking no LOL! MMA gloves are all t takes to protect your hands if you suck at punching nimrod.
Why'd you even start posting? You don't know shit about what you're talking about.
>>67393409
What do you want us to do, carry a flag that says mma fan?
>>67393409
Because everyone is secretly a Fight Fan™
>>67393288
If MMA isnt a sport then there isnt a chance in hell boxing is either
It's funny how every couple of years there's a new "face of MMA" because their shitty overhyped cans keep getting exposed.
You know a sport is shit when some over the hill wrestler from WWE can be a world champion in a couple of fights with no previous mma experience.
>>67393409
Met more mma fans than boxing fans personally. Though of course both groups are always casual as fuck.
>>67393373
Paychecks> Social media
Just saying.
>>67372023
>rarely able to develop the depth of technique
Most are black belts in BJJ
>>67393420
Can't understand any of this, can someone translate for me? All I got was he's upset at MMA gloves or something.
>>67393451
MMA is too dynamic for one person to survive without tasting defeat like Mayweather did, especially nowadays where Olympic champions are training mixed martial arts.
>>67393451
What that really shows is mma promoters know how to actually promote their fighters unlike boxing that is struggling to make stars
>>67393451
It's funny that you think having one dominant champion who beats everyone for years and years is a indicator that the sport is strong and competitive.
Quite the opposite actually. In an ideal world everyone would beat everyone and no champion would remain for more than a single fight.
>muh media hype
Nobody cares. Not part of the sport itself.
>>67393455
Social Media and actual numbers of people that watch and event actually shows how popular an athlete is.
Just saying.
>>67369242
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkmVK5EEbQc
canelo looking like a ghost
>>67393404
>website known for autistic memes and trends
>MMA is more popular in
Just stop it. Just because boxing fans are over the age of 18 and spam memes on /heem/ doesn't mean it isn't popular. Its much more popular than MMA and those are the cold hard facts. If /sp/ is your sample size for the outside world, then you are fucked.
>>67372058
How old are you? That argument is retarded. I could easily say my gun>any martial art. Funny how you see it only useful in one way. What if you took me down and I know BJJ(which I do) and you don't? You have no clue how easy it is for me to break your neck or arm or even sweep you let alone escape if you took me down. Im talking literally less than 10 seconds. Your argument is made only by people who never took a BJJ class.
>>67393486
If that's the case than
Canelo, Mayweather, Pacqiuao >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the entire UFC
>>67393492
You may be over the age of 18 but you're clearly a 12 year old autist at heart
>>67393485
No, because they're all equally shit.
It takes most boxers years of training and dozens of fightsto become a world champion in boxing, as well as countless amateur matches. Meanwhile, UFC brings in a WWE reject and makes him world champion in a couple of fights. Absolutely pathetic.
>>67393373
AMIR KHAN IS THE B SIDE YOU IDIOT
Mcmeme IS THE STAR. Just stop it.
>>67393492
>spend hours shitposting on /sp/ everytime there is a boxing fight on
>l-look guys boxing fans are so mature
don't get mad at me because your precious sport is dying and only has 3 popular fighters left.
>>67393518
Lesnar was 106-5 in his amateur college wrestling career before signing with the UFC ya goof.
>>67393503
>If something is popular, then it is good
I guess Keeping Up With The Kardashians is a greater TV show than The Wire or The Sopranos then.
>>67393492
I could care less about whats more popular. Justin Bieber is more popular than Jimmy Hendrix. I only care about the sport itself and the fact is boxing is only 1/3 of a fight.
>>67393503
Canelo last PPV did 900k while Conor's did 1.5
*Pacquiao's last one did 400-500k
The only one that WAS more popular than Conor is Mayweather and hes done.
>>67393541
Yet he spent the prime years of his career fake-wrestling, yet walks into UFC with practically no MMA experience and becomes world champion in short time. Embarassing
>>67393518
>No, because they're all equally shit.
If they're all so shit why don't you become the champ?
Couple million in the bank. Meet celebrities every day. Start your own gym. Maybe a clothing line....
It's easy right? Because they're all so shit, anyone can do it?
Right?
Right anon?
You're not just talking shit are you? You're ill-informed, half-baked opinions aren't total shit are they anon?
>>67393525
None of boxings current "stars" can do 1.5 Mil PPV buys.
>>67393518
Brock Lesnar was a national champion wrestler and a freak athlete with ridiculous work ethic
Stupid argument
>>67393543
>>67393543
>>67393551
>boxing is dead MMA is more popular
>just playing SENPAI were hipsters
Which is it.
>>67393563
>Fake-wrestling
You do realise it's a financial decision, right? He could beat anyone he wanted to, he chose to act and make money for his family and his kids you fucking autist.
>>67393570
Nice juvenile argument, but doesn't change the fact your sport is shallow as fuck talent-wise. Hence why Meme fighters like Lesnar, Kimbo Slice, Rousey etc have all got more traction than they deserved.
>>67393563
Then got his ass demolished by Cain and Overeem
Things change
Last week literally the biggest mma fighter got kicked off the show because he wouldn't do a press conference and was replaced in 2 days. I would love to see a boxing promotion do that. Face it, the amount of talent is so much deeper in MMA. If Canelo or Khan would get injured the event would be immediately canceled.
>>67393610
Yet he was world champion in how many fights? what other sport is this shallow?
>>67393591
Who said boxing is dead? Other than the people ITT who are just looking to troll you?
The fact is Boxing is on the decline. MMA is on the rise. That has nothing to do with the fact boxing is a bullshit sport which is just a part of MMA.
You're arguing two different things at the same time and you're thinking it's part of the same discussion. Pro-tip: Stop.
>>67393598
Kimbo was a pro boxer for a while but he went back to mma because more exposure and money
>>67393598
Kimbo Slice got attention because he's an internet sensation that was fucking legendarily garbage
>>67393614
Its not though.
And every boxing fan would love for Canelo Khan to get cancelled.
>>67393614
no, it just means that boxers have much more power than mma fighters which in fact depend on the ufc
>>67393621
You realise apart form WWE Brock has a legit wrestling backround? Freak Athletecism + legit wrestling(best sport to go in to training MMA with) will get you some good results.
>>67393629
He was literally a bum in his late 30s who was popular due to knocking out other bums in internet videos. It's cringe-worthy the UFC even gave him any attention. Are they really that desperate?
>>67372282
>let's get rid of the whole BJJ + wrestling element
that already exists, it's called Muay Thai
>>67393622
Boxing on the decline?
Kek no.
>>67393640
>Its not though.
that's some brilliant stuff there m8, I see your point.
>>67393598
>>67393598
>your sport is shallow as fuck talent-wise
This is a complete logical failure on your part. The champions of UFC are by default the greatest talents in the world.
Don't you see how stupid your line of reasoning is?
At least in football you can say Man United won the league because THEIR OPPONENTS IN ENGLAND were weak. This argument stands up because they also have opponents in Europe and they might have all beaten them 5-0.
But it doesn't work in UFC.
>>67393653
And that's exactly the problem with boxing right now, boxers cherry pick who they want to fight and what gloves can my op wear and shit
>>67393621
So what? He was a good fighter and that was 8 years ago
You seem to be missing the part that he was a national champion at wrestling and a genetic freak.
Would you rather he waste his time training for a boring almost combatively worthless sport that doesnt have any aspect of actual wrestling?
>>67393660
Dude fucking Olympic boxing has a deeper talent pool than UFC.
>>67393629
bullshit. how the fuck would he get more money in mma when there is so much less money involved.
only way he does that it's because he's too shitty to get to the top level of boxing.
>>67393659
Of course it is.
It used to be a massive global event. The 50s, the 60s even the 70s.
But in the 80s and 90s it's gone way downhill.
And in the past 20 years that process has accelerated. Nobody gives a shit these days other than boxing fans.
It used to be EVERYONE that was interested in it. Housewives, kids, everyone.
It's declined MASSIVELY, the biggest decline in any sport in history over a 50 year period. By far.
Second would be Baseball.
>>67393666
Yet it's literally the same 10 people fighting each other in varying orders. Other than prime Anderson Silva who was legit good, and probably jon jones, everyone is varying degrees of shit.
>>67393666
>The champions of UFC are by default the greatest talents in the world.
They're not.
Well this has been fun, see you in 8 months for the next boxing thread
>>67393657
Why? He wanted to fight, and had a massive following. The UFC gave him a literally a one fight contract then cut him loose afterwards because he was garbage
>>67393683
Only the top guys make more money in boxing than in mma the lower level guys like kimbo earn more money than lower level boxers
>>67393682
See
>>67393666
Your argument is retarded. Talented at doing what? MMA fighting? Don't fucking think so.
>>67393669
i dont deny that, but it has nothing to do with talents
>>67393708
They literally are. If you are a mixed martial artist the ceiling is the UFC belt.
>>67393749
why didnt fedor sign with the ufc then
>>67393706
It literally isn't. And you're idiotic if you can't appreciate Demetrious Johnson, Dom Cruz, Luke Rockhold, and Daniel Cormier, Werdum to name a few
>>67393703
>USED to be a massive global event
Still is mate. Did you see Mayweather Pacqiuao numbers for a fight every boxing fan knew was gunna be shit and every casual thought would be epic?
What about De La Hoya in the 00s?
Just stop it dude.
Mayweather and Pacqiuao retiring was the best thing to happen to the sport. New stars, fresh talent, believe me, boxing is here to stay. It is a part of Human history dating back to the Greeks. MMA is a meme.
>>67393759
He enjoys fighting in organizations that don't drug test,also his manager is a promoter that clashed heads with the ufc
>>67393759
USADA doesn't allow blatant roid use anymore / he's shit at negotiating deals
>>67393763
>i literally dont know what pankration is
Youre fucking stupid
>>67393720
ok.
then a no one gets some exposure in mma whereas in boxing he wouldnt get any because he is not in fact that great. how does that explain mma have better talents if lesser fighters are more likely to get exposure?
>>67393703
MMA will never be a global event
Meanwhile boxing is flourishing in the UK and elsewhere. It's only "dying" in the US because they don't have any dominant champions anymore, yet it still draws bigger PPVs and makes more revenue than UFC fighters ever will.
>>67393763
>Mayweather and Pacqiuao retiring was the best thing to happen to the sport. New stars, fresh talent
Nobody gives a shit.
They just wanted to see the last two remaining "stars" of the sport fight each other. It was all hype and media bollocks.
Real fans of boxing probably couldn't care less about it, because they knew they were past their peaks, especially Pacman. It was 5 years too late.
It's one fight. In the past 25 years I can't even name another big fight or world event like this. It used to happen every year back in the day.
It's over face it. Nobody gives a shit about "young fresh talents"
>>67393827
I'm in the UK you fucking spastic. Nobody gives a shit about it.
The only time I've seen it mentioned on Normiebook was Pacman-Mayweather and that's it. Literally not a single mention apart from that. EVER.
>MFW any MMA fighter would box if they could but they can't so they """""""""""""" learn""""""""""" a bunch of styles (aka learning a whole lotta nothing) to try to make pennies compared to what boxers make, which is why the UFC stars have to constantly put Mayweathers name in their mouth while Dana White PAYS USATODAY for coverage in order to generate interest in their meme sport that is popular with teenagers and women.
>>67393820
It's all about what the audience wants to see, his last fight in bellator was complete freaskshow joke but it also broke the bellator audience records
>>67393834
>It was all hype and media bollocks.
Just like every UFC event in recent years? Your sport solely survives on hype jobs and meme fighters. It's the only way you'll ever capture the mainstream's imagination.
>>67393858
You must live under a rock then, which isn't surprising being an MMAutist who probably has 3 friends including his mum.
>>67393820
Why wouldnt he get exposure?
>>67393834
>It was all hype and media bollocks.
Dude that is the UFC
The fact of the matter is mma broke boxing's reputation in the west, it used to be if you were a top boxer you were to baddest man on the planet or one of the baddest, now people just think an mma fighter in the same weight division would destroy them
Boxing will never go away but it will never have the aura it had either
>>67369242
>>67369242
BUT REEBOK SPONSORS
DANA TOLD ME UFC FIGHTERS WERE PAID IN TRILLIONS
>>67393859
>whole lotta nothing
You'd get put to sleep by 14 year olds at my gym
>>67393858
i was pretty sure boxing is rising quite fast in the uk in recent years
>>67393858
Nobody gives a shit about Anthony Joshua or Tyson Fury?
Or Carl Froch huh? How did he sell out Wembly? Im sure Dana White would love for nobody in the UK to give a shit about boxing.
>>67369242
>Boxing is a better sport than MMA.
MMA is not a sport. It is more like wrestling for advanced users.
>>67393879
Youre a fat fucking aspie acting high class for watching two people who arent even actually fighting
You are nothing
>>67393899
No I wouldn't.
>>67393917
But wrestling is a port
Will boxing ever have legit testing that removes blatant cheaters?
>>67393920
>aspie
You have to be 18 to be on this website we told you already go home.
>>67393920
triggered much? dont dribble all over your tapout t-shirt in a fit of autistic rage and ruin it mate.
>>67393917
You wouldnt last 20 minutes training at Nova Uniao
>>67393931
>what is Anderson Silva
>>67393905
>Selling out a 60,000 capacity is somehow indicative of a massive sport rising in popularity
If you had McGregor vs anyone in the UK you'd find 2 million people wanting to buy tickets for it
>>67393955
He said boxing.
>>67393936
You still argue like a literal child. Do you have Asperger's?
>>67393939
You're still a fat worthless autist. Enjoy :)
>>67393887
because he is not a good fighter and boxe terribly. also is endurance is ridicoulous.
>>67393922
Yes you would. You don't know how to fight and you're clearly an obese retard or a fucking twig. Those are the only two types of people who think they can fight someone who actually is trained to fight
>>67393959
No you wouldn't. If you did Dana White would have done it.
>>67393967
keep projecting porky. :^)
>>67393969
So what? He's Kimbo Slice. People would watch regardless
>>67393990
>trained to perform in combat sports
>MUH real fighting
Here we go again.
>>67393863
>>67393888
No because 90% of UFC fans are actually real fight fans who post in /heem/ and actually do martial arts themselves.
I'd wager 95% of people who watched that ONE BOXING MATCH (just a reminder we're talking about one fucking relevant event here in 30 years) have never seen a single full boxing match in their life before that one. And the other 5% were probably old enough to remember Tyson.
>>67394007
You seem upset, fatso ;)
>>67393959
Even British boxing title fights get more exposure and attention than an MMA event here ever will. You should probably take your medication, the delusions are getting out of hand.
>>67393967
Dude leave. You embarrass every MMA fan here.
>>67393991
Not sure if serious. It would sell out any arena available. Even at £200 per ticket.
100k 150k 200k you name it
>>67394013
No they're not. Stop it.
>>67394031
>Even British boxing title fights get more exposure and attention than an MMA event here ever will
Every UFC event ever staged in the UK has sold out with ease.
>>67394012
That wasnt the point at all. Regardless, its closer to real unarmed fighting than anything
Youre still a fat sack of shit or a complete twig that thinks he can beat up a fighter because he watches fucking boxing
>>67394033
You posted this exact same thing yesterday
You're still an embarrassment to everyone you know because you're a pathetic piece of shit
>>67394058
Ah yes, selling out arenas with a capacity of 10k. Very impressive. Let me know when an MMA event pulls in 80,000 at wembley.
>>67394060
Its not though. Dude I've trained in boxing and MMA gyms. I've also spent time in State prison and the fucking ghetto.
You haven't been in either a gym or an actual street. I've never once disrespected any MMA fighter. Just you you fucking clown.
>>67394097
Conor's rematch with Nate most definitely could.
McGregor would sell out a stadium in Ireland but MMA does not compare to Boxing in UK Joshua is fighting some bum soon at the O2 arena and that will probably sell out. The demand for boxing is huge we have 13 champions at the moment and you would unlikely find one person in 100,000 that could name one Brit MMA fighter.
>>67394083
And you went on an autistic rampage and repeated aspie a million times yesterday. Shut the fuck up.
>>67394129
It's because brits haven't had anyone close to becoming a ufc champion yet
>>67394120
And you probably looked like the absolute dumb bitch you are that got his dumb ass imprisoned
You probably learned how to kick for one day and sucked at it so you thought it was all bullshit
And this whole thing stems from you saying stupid shit about MMA fighters
>>67394145
Probably because you are a fat aspie that gets triggered by the word aspie
You are a child
Things Boxers are better at than MMArtists:
>Conditioning (i.e fighting for long periods of time)
>Their technique in using the padded gloves they are given to block punches
Things MMArtists are better at than boxers:
>Punching technique
>Evasive technique
>Elbow strikes
>Kicks
>Blocking kicks
>Wrestling
>Dirty boxing
>Throws and takedowns
>Knocking an opponent out by any means possible in the quickest time period possible
>Fighting from disadvantaged positions
>Submissions, locks and hods
>Explosive conditioning (i.e. periods of extreme energy over a short period of time)
>Taking a shot (chin)
>Fighting through the pain and receiving pain (pain tolerance)
>>67392218
Boxing has such a deeper talent pool that if you don't have a chin you'll be found out by the first decent puncher you face.
Just look at Ray Sefo he was known in kickboxing for his "boxing skills" and tough chin but when he tried boxing he got laid out by a nobody.
>>67394097
And evcent with Conor in Ireland could seel out any building they have there.
>>67394180
We just don't have the wrestling culture here anymore so people find the ground game of MMA boring, Boxing is so part of the culture here it will always be top dog. In Ireland it's different they have fuck all champions and most of their boxers are gypsies so McGregor is like their biggest start ever but Ireland is a tiny nation no one gives two shits about.
>>67394123
Point is Froch vs Groves wasn't even a big fight in the grand scale of boxing, yet it's far bigger than anything MMA has ever done in the UK. This british MMAutist is mentally ill and delusional.
>>67394097
Not sure if you're really this deluded or not, but at least 5k Brits travel to Las Vegas and Rio to watch these events so I doubt they'd have trouble when it's on their doorstep.
Besides people from all over the world would come to watch it. Probably get 100k foreigners let alone Brits.
>>67394186
You have me confused for someone else. All I said was combat sports =/= street fighting and anyone who thinks this is retarded
>>67394215
>Punching technique
>>67394215
Wouldn't even give boxing the Conditioning. 25 Minutes of Punches/kicks/wrestling/BJJ with 4 minutes of rest in between is way more tiring that 36 min of punches with 11 minutes of rest in between.
>>67394258
Ricky Hatton used to bring thousands to vegas on his own, and he wasn't even that good of a fighter. Sorry, MMA will never be as popular as boxing is here.
>>67394220
>deeper talent pool
See
>>67393666
What you're saying literally doesn't make a jot of sense.
It's like saying there is a deeper talent pool in poetry than there is in bricklaying.
Talented at what exactly? Completely different things. The most talented bricklayers are by definition the most talented bricklayers and so on.
>>67394314
Sorry but it already is. You need to wake up and get in touch with reality.
>>67394298
Mixed Martial artists are better boxers than boxers are because they punch FOR REAL not with padded pillows.
>>67394277
Obviously its not literally the same thing but its as close as it gets
MMA fighters are better fighters period, go ahead and tell me the guy trained in grappling amd striking doesnt have the massive upperhand against a puncher
>>67394327
Boxing has a deeper talent pool sure but, they are all dispersed by the 20 something weight divisions and dozens of different organizations that it feels like the best never fight eachother
>>67394314
This tbqh lads.
Lmao at your life if you think that lads from the ends would rather dry hump blokes for minimum wage than sell out Wembley.
>>67394404
Stop talking like a fag
>>67393503
Conor and Ronda both pull bigger numbers than Canelo and Pac and Mayweather to when he's not facing a name known by casuals where as Conor and Ronda could literally fight cans on PPV and sell a million.
>>67394392
>Boxing has a deeper talent pool
Again, no it doesn't.
Again, talented at what? Boxing? That doesn't mean a thing because they aren't talented at Mixed Martial arts.
I don't think you understand how this is not logically possible.
>>67394348
what reality your facebook div mates. Have a watch of the news when a Brit Boxer fights and see how much attention they get. Pickett and Bisping are nobodies in the UK. MMA is as big as NFL in UK it has a loyal fanbase but overall it's tiny and looked on as gay.
>>67394386
In a MMA fight yes. What's your point?
In a boxing match? No.
In the real world? Who ever is smart and ran away instead of fighting in the street.
If the fight goes down?
A grappler is stupid for wanting to get that close to someone intentionally in the street. Thats the end of that.
MMA is not as close as it gets. Its a sport with rules. Stop being a child. Every MMA guybat my gym would be embarrassed of you.
>>67394348
You're welcome to bury your head in the sand and ignore the truth, but it doesn't make you correct.
Most mainstream news outlets don't even cover it.
>>67394385
lol Diaz and Lawler can't box for shit they would get destroyed in a boxing fight against even a semi-pro boxer.
>>67393706
prime Anderson Silva dominated one of the weakest divisions of all time. Fedor unironically has better wins than Anderson Silva's best wins. Just shows you know shit all about the sport to not put GSP's name in there.
>>67394444
Talented at what martial arts? Doesn't mean shit since they suck at boxing.
>>67394434
Says the MMAfag.
Boxing is historically a massive, global sport. The key word being 'historically'.
Now MMA has become popular and soon it will takeover. Soon £50 million per fight will be awarded to UFC fighters, and the elite boxers will be paid £2-3 million at best.
It's a process. It's evolution. The strong survive.
Maybe not in the next 5 years, or 10 years, maybe not even 20 years. But 50 years definitely. The evidence is overwhelming. Boxing is dying and MMA is just being born.
There's not room enough for two massive combat sports, and the truth is that historically those interested in mixed martial arts were FORCED to train in boxing just to make any money out of it. That is no longer the case. The new generation will prove that fact. Wait and see. No longer are kids going to a gym to learn boxing exclusively. Now they're interested in martial arts of all sorts.
>>67369873
If you restricted boxing to just jabbing - every other punch was against the rules - then jabs in boxing would become more skillful and "artistry" than they are now.
>>67394528
And it doesn't means shit that boxers are talented at boxing because they'd get their shit pushed in in the octagon.
>>67393383
LOL WHAT?!
Holy fuck britain, that was retarded.
IMO boxing>mma. But they are both fun to watch at times. I prefer boxing because they are absolute masters of their craft....mma still seems very much a cluster fuck at times
>>67394542
MMA has already peaked.
You know you're desperate when you start pushing female cans like Rousey in order to sell tickets and PPVs
>>67394542
Dana White, stop posting.
>>67394571
And a MMA fighter would get his ass taken in the amateurs and would be beat into a coma in the pros.
What is your point?
>>67394499
>im going to be as stupid as possible and pretend to not understand what he clearly said
>a grappler is stupid for getting to the ground
Not really, obviously you would think twice before grappling someone with a knife but thats not the fucking point you retard
How oblivious are you?
>MMA is not as close as it gets
For a sport? Yes, obviously there's rules to prevent anything goes but you're fucking idiotic if you think that that isnt very relatable to unarmed combat between two people
Is being intentionally retarded fun? Being so clueless and lost in every argument you have?
>>67394503
Boxers aren't even good at punching. They just are good at winning points by making contact with the fist and head.
They aren't actually trained to kill with their punches, which is how MMA is. The point of a punch isn't to gain points and impress judges and gain scorecard credits, the point of a punch is to disable your opponent so they can't stand up properly.
>>67394526
but according to mmafags, UFC is the height of mma and fedor never fought there. really shows how deep the talent pool is... not.
>>67394542
trying too hard lad. Boxing is huge in UK it's only going to get more popular. Mayweather made near £200 million for one fight. Joshua will male huge amounts soon. MMA fighters are lucky if they make a million per fight. Even Martin who fought Joshua made $6 million and even boxing fans don't know who he is.
>>67394571
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUx9OE7DZAo
Heres a video of a washed up old as fuck Ray Mercer knocking out ex ufc heavyweight champ Time Sylvia.
If you stand with a boxer 100% of the time he will knock you the fuck out because his stance is designed to utilize the most of a punch.
Quit trying to be nostradamus, you sound like a fag. Both sports can co exist. Now get off your comp and go play on your scooter outside.
MMA: Fuck You Dad!!!! The Sport
>>67394611
Go ahead and try to box versus a wrestler let alone a wrestler who has adept striking skills. You know the point, you're just a dumb pussy who doesnt want to admit most boxers are objectively shit fighters
>>67394633
>Boxers aren't even good at punching. They just are good at winning points by making contact with the fist and head.
You might be the biggest moron I have ever come across on this board.
>>67394611
>What is your point
That boxing does not have a greater "talent pool" than anything. And the "talent pool" in MMA isn't weak, or strong.
It's a complete logical failure to suggest that the "talent pool" is weak, when there is nothing similar to it that can compare to it.
>>67394633
>they aren't trained to kill with their punches
Sergey Kovalev would like to have a word with you.
Just stop it..you don't know a godamn thing about what you are talking about.
>>67394669
Boxing: My father left me at birth: the sport
>>67394669
this 2bh
its mainly just manchildren who graduated from WWE
Boxers are point sparring faggots and there is never an exciting boxing fight, ever. Ali's fights were borefests. Ali also lost to a professional wrestler.
>>67394693
Mayweather taps his opponent and he gets a point, he repeats this 100 times and wins the fight.
Great boxer? True. Because he knows how to beat the 'boxing system'
Great fighter? Great puncher? LMAO. I could knock him out with ease and I'm not even a particularly gifted striker.
>>67394722
t. fat fedora wearing mega-aspie
>>67394709
There are literally thousands of amateur boxers in every major country, and hundreds of pros on top of that. Meanwhile, MMA has a few meme gyms and the roster in the UFC is fucking embarrassing, which is why the keep wheeling out the same over the hill fighters with 10 losses already because there's no one else.
>>67394709
You have people in mma who only first stepped into an mma gym in their mid 20's who have successful careers.
In boxing those types of people are anomalies
>>67394644
UFC is now but non zuffa shill casuals know that at the time when PRIDE was around it had the best talent in the world when they weren't doing freakshow fights.
GSP is UFC made you can't leave him out since he actually fought in a division that's deep.
Strikeforce had decent champs to and currently 3 different UFC champs are from strikeforce. WEC had better lightweight fighters. A Bellator fighter is literally fighting for the LW strap in a few months.
There's plenty of talent outside the UFC, it's just there's more of a steep decline past the top 5 ranked. There's champs in WSOF and Bellator that would be legit forces in their divisions.
>>67394618
That is the fucking point about street fighting you fucking retard. What happens when you take this dude to the ground and his friend kicks your fucking head in? What happens when hes on PCP and bites your fucking ear off?
Sport . sport. Get it through your childish head. Sport is not street fighting.
>>67394633
Your getting amateur boxing mixed up with professional boxing. Take a break lad. You really think an MMA fighter would beat a boxer in just a fist fight you are insane. As if McGregor could beat GGG in a boxing fight or Fabrício Werdum against Joshua in a boxing fight your crazy.
>UFC
60 year old grandmaster living on top of a mountain somewhere in Japan with a long white beard training his proteges
>Boxing
some street nigger who sells drugs and robs vulnerable people of their hard earned money
About sums it up.
>>67394750
You can't. Just stop. Mayweather has never ever been known as a gifted puncher. Just kill yourself. Rocky Marciano would eat you the fuck alive.
>>67394788
Take off the gloves and get rid of the judges scorecards and yes, they would.
>>67394771
Because there is more money in boxing. Not because there is more talent.
It's easier to be pro if someone is willing to pay you for what you do. Is that not obvious?
Again, what does this have to do with the pool of talent? It doesn't make it stronger or weaker.
>>67394780
Seems like you literally didnt read my scenario about someone wielding a knife, probably because you continue to be an oblivious dumbass
I never once said it was street fighting, its as close as you get to two random people starting a fight on the street
You're just intentionally being a dumb sack of shit because you know how utterly stupid you've already been and know boxers would a whopping majority of the time get destroyed by an MMA fighter
And do you seriously think a grappler would be dumb enough to just shoot for a double and lay on top of someone if he's fighting two people? Do you think that is the only thing to grappling?
You. Are. Fucking. Stupid
>>67394727
>Ali also lost to a professional wrestler.
I almost forgot about that
>>67394881
>its easier to be a pro
Its not in boxing. Its easier to become a pro MMA fighter than a pro boxer.
>>67394896
>I never once said it was street fighting, its as close as you get to two random people starting a fight on the street
You make it abundantly clear that you've never been in a street fight every time you open you type.
The only thing boxers are good at is boxing. End of discussion.
Martial artists are good at boxing as well as hundreds of other things that take lifetimes to master.
MMA would win in a street fight.
MMA would win in a military situation.
MMA would win in a self-defense situation.
MMA would win in an anything goes, no rules, no regulations fight to the death.
Boxing would maybe win 80 times out of 100 in a Boxing match, and that's it.
Deal with it.
>>67394962
Good argument, dipshit.
Reading is hard
>>67394846
How? Hav you noticed in MMA they box they don't punch Kung FU style or karate style they box if you watch McGregor and Diaz fight they actually spent a large part of that fight boxing so if they were to do that against a boxer they would be destroyed even Andre Ward who help train Diaz with Boxing said Diaz skills were good but he would still struggle as a boxer at elite level.
Reminder that Daniel Cormier knocked out boxing heavyweight champion Lucas Browne in an MMA fight in 2010. Sent Browne back to boxing where the competition is a little easier.
No pillows = boxers can't defend punches.
>>67395043
Reminder that Holy Holm schooled your main bitch and it was glorious.
>>67395017
>>67395017
>even Andre Ward who help train Diaz with Boxing said Diaz skills were good but he would still struggle as a boxer at elite level.
No shit, he's spent his life learning a variety of disciplines. Boxing being just one of them. Obviously he's not going to be as good as someone who has spent their ENTIRE life learning it.
Boxers are set up differently though. Boxing in boxing is not the same as boxing in MMA. In MMA you are punching to knock them out, not to get points. It's a completely different sport and ballgame.
>>67394979
>boxers are only good at the sport they train at
why is this a bad thing exactly? i guess it's good mma fighters have some career options when their careers inevitably nosedive and they have no money due to the shitty fight purses. :^)
>>67394979
>street fight
No
>military situation
No
>self defense
No
You know why?
Because MMA is a fucking sport you dipshit.
>>67395017
Their stances and approach are completely different than straight up boxing
Conor also throws kicks and the fight ended on the mats
>>67395043
and Kimbo Slice knocked out shit load of mma fighters as did Holy Holm both were boxers. Lucas Browne is a drug taking joke in boxing he is awful probably the worst champion that has ever been in boxing. The heavyweight in boxing only has 5 good boxers Wilder,Fury,Joshua and Ortiz and Povetkin the rest are terrible. It's boxing weakest division.
>>67395100
You're a fucking retard. Stop posting already. Being stupid for the sake of it is not an effective argument technique
>>67395081
Reminder that Holly Holm's been training grappling for many years now.
>>67395117
Reminder than Kimbo Slice subbed Ray Mercer.
>>67395081
Reminder that she's also a woman
>>67395160
this
the day boxing resorts to trying to push female boxers to stay relevant is the day the sport is truly dead.
>>67395099
m8 I don't give a shit about the careers of men I will never meet
I don't give a shit how much money they make
I don't give a shit how much the companies and labels they sign for make
I don't give a shit how many people watch their fights
I don't give a shit how many people pay to watch their fights or attend their fights in person
Doesn't matter a single little bit.
The fact is, on a spiritual level, an intellectual level, a fulfilling and significant level whatever the fuck you want to call it, that MMA is a superior activity and sport and requires a great deal more talent, ability, dedication and mentality to perform well in.
It is the the greatest test of a man in physical combat.
If Aliens were to challenge ONE member of planet earth to a fight, we would elect a MMA fighter to fight for our survival. Because it is the best test of a man we have.
Now back to your petty arguments about muh 10k capacity vs 50k capacity and twitter followers...
>>67395123
I've told you already, I'm speaking from experience.
>>67395104
But he's talking about a fist fight (boxing match) no elbows no kicks no ground game just punching so if this was the case boxing would be dominated by karate and Kung Fu style punching as it is allowed yet you don't see it even the superman punch is pointless in boxing and a boxer can see coming from a mile away.
>>67395195
lay off the weed mate
>>67395181
Ronda was the cover for Ring magazine few months back. Thats embarrassing enough
>>67395100
The special forces such as the SEALs, SAS etc. are taught by the same sort of people with the same sort of backgrouds that teach the UFC fighters you retard.
It's the exact same concepts. You fight to render your opponent incapacitated.
>>67395195
The fact is, on a spiritual level, an intellectual level, a fulfilling and significant level whatever the fuck you want to call it, that MMA is a superior activity and sport and requires a great deal more talent, ability, dedication and mentality to perform well in.
It doesn't though. On paper it should. But it doesn't.
>>67395227
why do so many fights go to decision? where are your KO artists like GGG?
>>67395204
Well obviously that experience taught you nothing or you're just continuing to be as dumb as possible to avoid the reality MMA fighters would whoop boxers a grand majority of the time
Your only argument is about something stupid where there's 2v1 or some stupid shit like that. Thats not remotely the point and you even ignored this entire part last time because you're a stupid child. You just nitpicked at one statement that also intentionally misinterpreted. Because you have no argument
>>67394750
Actually Mayweather until he went up to fight De Le Hoya WAS known as a VERY dangerous puncher; couple that with constant breaks in his hands and you see the defensive wizard that is mayweather. Weight transfers differently for boxers. Adding weight doesnt always mean adding knockout power.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btSOITWcoho - early mayweather
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5q57ZboGw0 - mayweather vs gatti
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb4iphee5z4 - mayweather vs corales
>>67372551
go on youtube and see how many streetfights end up on the ground. The reality is that in a 1 on 1 fight, having another person on top of you is the worst position to be in. Not being able to get them off is a frightening experience because you are completely at their mercy. People who never tried BJJ don't realize that if you were in a streetfight and someone took you down, it really only takes a few seconds to get them off of you if you know Jiujitsu and they don't. You would think that would come in handy should their friends try to jump you.
>>67395258
Why? Because you watched it and didn't like it?
>>67395258
Why's that? Too many unfair punches on the ground?
>>67394750
Seriously man, you're making a fool of yourself.
>>67395287
No they wouldn't. In the street? Five mastered punches >>>>>>>>> a thousand kicks grapples and throws you are okay at. Why? Because only retards get into grappling wars of attritions
>>67394727
Gatti vs Ward
Corales vs Castillo
Morales vs Barerra
Khan vs Maidana
Maidana vs Ortiz
Ortiz vs Berto
Maidana vs Broner
^Here are some exciting slug fests for your dumb ass.
>>67395302
Second this.
Black belt in BJJ and I often LET people take me to ground when I'm messing about with mates or whatever on a night out. Just so I can absolutely destroy them on the ground.
nohomo
i see the stereotype of mma fans being mentally ill manchildren isn't completely unfounded
>>67395302
Well these fighters in MMA are professionals. They train at a higher level than anyone else when ot comes to fighting
You continue to misinterpret EVERYTHING because you are a fucking retard who doesnt want to accept reality
No one in their right mind pulls guard when fighting 5 people. You are stupid and ignoring the point
>>67395355
What makes you think you'd get 5 punches away?
You'd maybe get one before you got taken to the ground and then it's fight over.
>>67395150
Ray Mercer heem'd Sylvia
>>67395370
I also found the stereotype of boxing fans being giant aspies is completely factual
>>67395370
All I see ITT is boxing fans getting BTFO again and again and coming up with more and more ridiculous strawman arguments and bullshit scenarios.
>>67395370
the older MMA fans are ok it's the new batch of UFC fans that have to be the most childish twats of any sport.
>>67380656
>i want to watch a match where the fighters need to be conservative with their punches
sounds awful senpai
>>67395390
What street fight have you seen where grappling is involved? It's fists and maybe kicks. Once someone gets thrown down your ass gets stood up to continue fighting with your fists like a man.
>>67395313
Because less than %1 of the athletes are good. Maybe in 50 or 100 years it will be. Right now? All the sports that make up MMA are much tougher, require much more dedication and experience than MMA. That's a cold hard fact.
The majority of MMA fighters are dudes like War Machine in terms of skill. Maybe in 50 years the sport will be much more evolved, now, it's a meme.
>>67395414
>literally tried to claim,MMA was more popular than boxing in the UK
>got BTFO
>resorted to spouting some cringe-worthy shit about aliens in an attempt to save face
Pathetic.
>>67395355
Good luck getting those 5 punches in when you're already on your back getting pummeled
>ok at
Okay is still going to fucking obliterate a retard like you and most boxers
Boxing in a fight doesnt equal real street punching either. Contrary to your idiotic beliefs as well
>>67395414
All I see is you samfagging up this thread because you are insecure about the sport you enjoy.
>these nerds arguing about streetfighting
Give it a fucking rest. It has no bearing on how "good" a combat sport is. Besides, in the age of knives and guns your "mma" training doesn't amount to shit.
>>67395366
They were all shit.
>>67395449
>What street fight have you seen where grappling is involved?
All of them..
>Once someone gets thrown down your ass gets stood up to continue fighting with your fists like a man.
Not sure if serious. We're talking about STREET fights, scratching, biting, weapons if they are available. Not fucking honorable semi-regulated "not the face bro" brawls.
We're talking, if you don't win this fight, you might lose your life.
>>67395150
>Reminder that Holly Holm's been training grappling for many years now
how many subs she have ...
>>67395390
What makes you think I wouldn't knock you out the second you got in range of my left hook while you tried to grapple me and my boy started kicking your head in after?
>>67395451
>Because less than %1 of the athletes are good
Well luckily, all it takes is for 50-100 of them to be good. Not 1% or even 0.5%. Same with boxing.
>>67395368
Im just a blue belt and even the difference between a blue belt and a beginner at grappling is crazy. Even as a 3 stripe white belt I remember absolutely tooling beginners. All it takes is just 1 reaction to what the person on top of you does to escape. I actually found sweeping to actually be easier than escaping mount. .
>>67395477
You are the one who believes. I have experience little boy.
>>67395477
This.
It takes maybe 5-6 months of training to be able to completely destroy anyone who doesn't have that training. And I'm talking 140lbs woman beating a 300lbs pure muscle man.
Why would someone watch punching when someone could watch punching, kicking, grappling, wrestling, kneeing, elbowing?
Why would someone watch punching over kicking anyway?
Boxing is popular because it's been ingrained in society for 100 years. Like baseball. It's not popular because it's good.
>>67395595
Wow. Wow. Just wow..
>491 posts
>68 IP's
will you autists leave already
>>67395538
>keyboard warrior who has never been in or seen a fight in his life
A clean hook drops your pussy ass when you try to scratch and bite your foe. Keep trying.
>>67395604
Kickboxing is MMA without the faggotry
Boxing is still patrician as fuck though.
>>67395589
Good for you, you're a fucking retard and a complete degenerate piece of shit
>>67395554
Because you're an American pussy and It'd take 10 of you or more to take me down, and that's only after a 10-20 minute fight where I'd snap your fucking neck and take the eyes out of at least 4 of your faggot friends first.
>>67395595
Seriously. Just stop man, these are getting worse and worse.
>>67395641
I can just picture your fat fingers hitting multiple keys while typing out "patrician"
>>67395651
>Because you're an American pussy and It'd take 10 of you or more to take me down, and that's only after a 10-20 minute fight where I'd snap your fucking neck and take the eyes out of at least 4 of your faggot friends first.
Getting this mad after you're blown the fuck out.
>>67395386
notice how I said 1 on 1 fight you fucking faggot? You bringing up pulling guard at all is some shit you pulled out of your ass that I never even hinted at implying. The origins of Jiujitsu is from the Samurai retard, not sport fighting. You probably never even heard of Gracie Combatives, that shit is all about standup fighting. You grab my hair I break your arm, you try to push me, I break your arm. You bearhug me, you end up on the ground. Pulling guard is considered sport BJJ and lots of Gracie Jiujitsu schools look down on it and say that's only for tournaments.
>>67395624
It's true. Technique is infinitely more important than power and strength. So much so that power and strength means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN A FIGHTING SITUATION unless it is accompanied by basic fighting technique.
It's literally my job to know how to defend myself. I think I have an idea about how this thing works m8...
>>67395759
>It's literally my job to know how to defend myself. I think I have an idea about how this thing works m8
LOLOLOLOL holy shit you're a faggot
>>67395685
>DONT MESS WITH ME BRO, I TRAIN MMA
>>67378748
Don't forget it give everyone a fucking shield they get to hide behind.
>>67395793
>>67395719
>>67395665
Don't you have something better to be doing with your time?
We get it. You lost the argument earlier and now you're just mad, trying to lash out at anyone you can.
But seriously m8, is it worth it? Just go for a walk or something.
>>67395759
>>67395793
Better and better every time
>>67395856
The city of delusion
Most people talking shit about grappling haven't even done it. Lets keep it real, athleticisms true value is for farming or warfare, not playing with balls. Since boxing and MMA is fighting, which one is more realistic? Obviously MMA. MMA is about being a better fighter while boxing is about being a better boxer. Doesn't matter anyways, you faggots can keep going back and forth all you want. I love both. Boxing has too many orgs and weight classes while the UFC is seen as the premier MMA org. If 2 guys in their weight classes are at the top, they fight. Manny and Floyd ducked eachother for years and they both finally fought passed their primes and we all saw how that went down. That shit doesn't happen in the UFC.
>>67395759
I'm sure the suburbs of whatever irrelevant market town you live in are really dangerous m8
fucking embarrassing
>>67392563
>mma fighters, who have to worry about punches, kicks, take downs, and submissions don't throw punches as well as guys who spend their entire lives literally just throwing punches.
Of course boxers throw better punches, because it's the only thing they do. In MMA you need some training in boxing, but it can't be the only thing you focus on.
>>67395992
5 years in the Royal Marines including one tour of Iraq and Afghanistan and 3 years in the Special Boat Service m8.
Can't say I've had much hand-to-hand combat in my time, but I can certainly say I've had my fair share of danger.
And I certainly do know what I'm talking about in reference to self defense and combat.
>>67396083
were you trained in gorilla warfare?
This thread taught me that my blackbelt in BJJ is useless against 10 skin heads armed with bats, knives, and bottles ;( Good thing I learned on 4chan because next time I choose to fight a gang alone like some arcade game protagonist I will not pull guard on each one individually.
>>67396114
No, but I am in Mountain warfare.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Leader_Training_Cadre
>>67395017
>McGregor and Diaz spent a large part of that fight boxing
Oh you mean the fight where Diaz won by rear naked choke?
>>67396165
your Mountain warfare training would be useless against an army of angry gorillas armed with rocket launchers
>>67396377
REKT
isn't it funny how boxingfags always say things like "MMA fighters would get ripped apart in boxing matches" but they never talk about how mayweather would do when faced with a choke or anything of the sort
>>67395449
Kek
>>67395091
>In MMA you are punching to knock them out, not to get points.
Jesus Christ, just stop you dirty casual. It totally depends on the fighter and their strategy.
>>67396414
Shut up Grodd.
>>67394633
HAHAHAHA
this is one of the worst posts in the history of this board
>>67394664
>4 hours later not a single mma faggot has replied to this
>>67398005
It's what happens when you have a stupid gameplay. The dumbass tried to outbox him no shit he was gona lose. If you put that guy vs Overeem for example he's gona get his face kicked off.
>>67398153
gameplan*
>>67395195
>The fact is, on a spiritual level, an intellectual level, a fulfilling and significant level whatever the fuck you want to call it, that MMA is a superior activity and sport and requires a great deal more talent, ability, dedication and mentality to perform well in.
pls stop listening to joe rogan's podcast anon
>>67398005
Tim Sylvia lol. Whats next, you going to show us a video of Butterbean knocking out Ken Shamrock to prove your point?
>>67396377
the rest of the fight before that
>>67399057
You mean the 1st rd of a 2rd fight lol?
>>67369242
>keadkick KO's
>choking
>breaking bones
boxing is a poor man's mma, if a boxer met an mma fighter on the street, it'd be over quickly, with the boxer being strangled unconscious
>>67390867
>GGG
>Russian
Are all GGG fans bandwagon fans?
MMA
>Jack of all trade memesters who always look sloppy when they aren't rubbing funnies on the ground in a clinch
>Champions always end up getting rekt by some unexpected mediocre fighter
Boxing
>Masters at their craft displaying blistering speed, power and technique in the traditional manly-mans "Fisty cuffs"
>Champions reign supreme until they reach the end of their careers
>>67369242
Truth. MMA is just the insecure little brother of combat sports.
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/5/3/8539635/ufc-mma-fans-stop-declaring-the-death-of-boxing-mayweather-vs-pacquiao-editorial
>>67394220
This
>>67393703
mma has been in decline too. peaked in 2009-2010.
>>67401985
Combat sports =\= street fighting retard.
You're supposed to be 18 to post on this board.
>>67396455
Its Safe to say Mayweather would fuck up your limp dick MMA fighters.
>>67396083
>shit that didn't happen.
>>67395943
>since boxing and MMA are fighting
No retard. They are sports get it through your 10 year old skull.
>>67395195
Get a load of this faggot.
>>67394215
Things MMArtists are better at than boxers:
>Punching technique
Fuck No
>Evasive technique
Fuck no
>Elbow strikes
Barley
>Kicks
If you mean performing shitty kicks yes.
>Blocking kicks
Okay
>Wrestling
Okay
>Dirty boxing
Fuck no
>Throws and takedowns
Okay
>Knocking an opponent out by any means possible in the quickest time period possible
No
>Fighting from disadvantaged positions
No
>Submissions, locks and hods
>Explosive conditioning (i.e. periods of extreme energy over a short period of time)
Fuck no
>Taking a shot (chin)
Fuck no. Not even close.
>Fighting through the pain and receiving pain (pain tolerance)
Fuck no
Retard I would hope an MMA fighter is better than a boxer at MMA.
I can list things boxers are better at than MMA that are exclusive to boxing and make a big long autistic list just like you did.. You're silly bro..
>>67394633
Joe Rogan and Dana White pumped a lot of sperm into this kid.
