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future elite RBs edition
CLE:Report: Browns 'actively shopping' No. 2 pick
FA:Brian Hoyer set to visit Jets on Tuesday
CLG:Browns see wide gulf between Goff, Wentz?
TEN:Report: Titans want to move back into top 10
CLG:Report: Eagles think Wentz is the 'real deal'
DEN:Broncos keep Hillman on 1-yr, $2 million deal
BAL:Perriman running at Ravens offseason program
CLG:Schefter: Browns were never drafting QB at 2
CLG:Schefter: Rams' 'preference' is Goff > Wentz
GB:Report: Packers' Lacy has lost 15-18 pounds
LAR:Case Keenum signs $3.635 million RFA tender
BUF:Rex Ryan hints sides far apart in Tyrod talks
Lions will draft the best players
>>66948592
Sure they will!
They already killed it in FA!
>>66948592
Who will retire in 8 years' time due to depression.
Dolphins
>mfw Browns sign an AFL quarterback in an attempt to tank and be guaranteed the #1 pick next year
>mfw they accidentally begin to win and get the city's hopes up
>mfw they go 6-10, pick 8th in 2017, and take a troubled RB in the first round
>>66948608
Hahahahaha
>>66948662
All it takes is a new thread to get your bearings straight again?
Here is a present for you all, a full game from last season to enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-Yy-JGzcHA
So I thought the whole "trashy philly fan" meme was just that, until I heard about the shit Flyers fans pulled against the Capitols. Jesus philly, how the fuck do you justify your actions. You really are the worst sports fans in the country
>>66948647
>they get kurt warner 2.0 instead
Bretty sweet
>>66948905
>So I thought the whole "trashy philly fan" meme was just that,
So you are new to sports?
>Barry Jackson
@flasportsbuzz
>Mel Kiper just said "you hear Miami trying to move up" from 13 to draft Ohio State RB Elliott, who's visiting Dolphins today.
I really really hope this is Mel kiper spilling the same bullshit from the agents just to drum up attention
>decide to buy a chicago bears jersey because they've been my team for years
>looking through the player jerseys
>they're all shit players so I don't want to buy any of them
JUST
Maybe I'll just get a Ditka one
>>66948957
Well considering you don't hear about stabbings and beatings like you do at San Francisco and LA games, yeah... Last you really heard of Philly going crazy was the fucking Santa game. Personally I'd still say San Fran fans are the worst, never had my truck fucked with by Philly fans
ravens
hold these dubs nigga
>>66948905
I'm super fucking bored in this lecture, so I'm gonna actually take the weak bait because it'll be entertaining.
>something something Baltipoor fans
>something something rioting so much the Orioles game was unavailable to the public
>something something Cleveland fans got a game forfeited
>something something Atlanta Braves fans had a 30 minute delay because of the shit they pulled
>something something Florida Panthers "fans" and Minnesota Wild fans did the same exact thing this same hockey season.
>implying vast minority of a fanbase is representative of the entire fan base
>implying people don't lash out in times of mourning and we weren't mourning our beloved team founder/owner and our season (which fucking died that game)
>implying this (or worse) wouldn't happen anywhere else
>implying we aren't the "worst fans" because we're top rivals of New York & New York media teams in literally every sport
>implying on a long enough timeline, every fan base doesn't look like shit and our fan base is one of the oldest in sports.
>implying fans who are more invested in their teams don't experience more extreme lows and more extreme highs.
99% of fan outrages for any team or sport are because of bullshit refereeing/disagreements in refereeing decisions. This was one of them. I'd rather have people over react then not give a fuck.
>>66949170
That happens with rebuilding teams. I read somewhere their new GM has replaced over half of the whole team since he took over 2 years ago.
And when you are doing mass movements of players like that, you are looking to get young so a lot of those players arent going to pan out anyways.
Get a Payton jersey
>>66949124
He's full of shit and just likes making money from attention. This contradicts his first 4 rounds A grade Mock Draft, which had Elliot retardedly falling into the second round.
>>66949189
The fucking Santa game was in the middle f the 60's. Booing Deon Sanders while he was doing his powwow dance around Michael Irvin which led to more boos was much more recent.
On the topic of Michael Irvin, he himself said he would have booed if he was in the situation.
You now remember that the 2016 NCAA National Championship-winning QB is a senior.
Will he even be drafted, or was he just a passenger on that Bama team?
>months of mock drafts 67.0
>draft day comes
>a single trade and it all goes to shit
why do they do it?
>>66949216
It wasn't b8 dude, and tell you city to stop acting like a bunch of niggers every time they get BTFO. You think they'd be used to it by now
>>66949290
>This guy's reading comprehension
>>66949124
>Mel Kiper
>spouting shit
pick two
>>66949302
Because offseason can get depressingly boring at times.
>>66949216
>baltimore
>not having the best fans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFr_zlBBa_k
its like you enjoy being a pleb
>>66949290
>>66949339
I dont think he is making it up. its just the agent for ezkiel elliot trying to drum of some propaganda to get up the draft board.
>>66949356
If it were Philly they'd have been chucking D cell batteries and beer bottles on the field
>>66949356
Bullshit chants? That's amateur hour.
>>66949124
When teams talk about potential trading, do they actually disclose to the other team who they are trying to trade up for?
Also, wouldnt that be really tightly sealed in the front offices to not leak out?
I would think leaking a potential draft pick for another team would be burning bridges in trades.
>>66949412
Not to mention beating up the kid who was only at the game for the make a wish foundation
>>66949412
>you now remember bottlegate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-teMkx2vgA
>>66949415
Its not just the fact they were chanting bullshit, its how loud it was at an away game of all places. As for Ray Rice:
>get drunk with loving wife
>do things you wouldnt normally do if you werent
color me suprised
>>66949299
worth a 7th round pick IMO. Wasn't asked to do much but I do think he made many NFL quality throws throughout the season and he has shown he is determined enough to put in the work to get a roster spot. His size and arm strength are great. Can make plays with his feet too. Only knock on him is that he doesn't come across as too high on the football IQ radar and he had a tendency to hold the ball too long and get sacked as well as throw away into coverage.
>>66949468
>not an away game
here come the (You)'s
>>66949468
>>66949520
Where was it then?
They are wearing their home jerseys, there's the Baltimore decals along the stands, and the Ravens logo on midfield and the endzone. The stands are full of purple.
It was loud, but not unheard of for a home game. Was that a dome? I didn't think they had a dome
God I hope the Raiders are actually good this year. Fuck me.
Is there any chance the Titans and Browns (with a 2nd tradedown) actually use their picks for decent role players that will have a future with the team?
How can they both pick so high in the draft every year and not ever seem to get out of a rut?
>>66949597
I don't
>>66949299
>>66949299
also he played better as the season progressed. His coming out party was the semifinal playoff game against Mich St. Had career highs in yds and TDs if Im not mistaken. Natl championship performance not too shabby either. Hit the open men and gave OJ Howard nice balls where he could use his speed and score. Not a guy to shy away from the big stage
>>66949650
>yfw Jamaal Charles loses a step because of a blown out knee
>>66949671
>mfw we still have Charcandrick West and Spencer Ware
>>66949575
what the fuck are you even implying
I didnt realize it was a home game for the ravens and I corrected it
Damn CKBB is one sensitive fag. Why haven't you changed your trip fuckboi?
now I know kiper is bullshit
>Adam Beasley@AdamHBeasley
Kiper has Elliott as 5th or 6th best player on his board. "Elliott is worthy of being a top-5 pick." Said the rumor is MIA trying to move up
>>66949575
The Ravens don't play in a dome you retarded retard
>>66949744
Shit posting is lfye and entertaining. Lecture is not.
>>66949736
I just got confused by what you meant by this. >>66949520 like maybe it was a home game that wasn't played at the home stadium for whatever reason. That's all it was.
>>66949765
Elliott is a top 5 player in this draft, the gap between him and the other's at his position are huge,he's not top 5 in value you though since the position has been so devalued itself.
>>66949963
so it would be so tannenbaum to over pay for an ok talent.
different answers than I thought I would be getting but still a retarded solution
I can't wait to see which poor bastard the Rams draft. The rest of the NFCWest is going to do everything they can to RG3 him ASAP
>>66949889
oh alright I got confused myself
nice steve smith roll
I have no respect for fanbases that boo their own team.
Its just so bad to do.
>>66950072
Likewise with the Tra Thomas get.
>>66948794
Ive been watching this game, and holy shit is it bad.
>4 turnovers in the first half
Get with it detoilet
>>66949216
meanwhile this gets swept under the rug because it wasn't philthy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JYVZ_1qPM0
>>66949765
>Tfw Miami trades their 2016 1st, 2017 1st, and Reshad Jones for Cleveland's 1st and drafts Elliot with it
>>66948592
Reminder that Megatron was a part of the 0-16 team.
We need to burn Detroit to the ground.
>>66950282
Shit has happened in every city where a professional sports team has alcohol sales.
>>66950335
>We need to burn Detroit to the ground.
The inhabitants have done a pretty good job themselves.
I wonder what city Megatron is going to move to, to enjoy his retirement
>>66949765
>>66950305
madman tannenbaum at it again
Ryan O'Halloran@ryanohalloran
Mel says #Jaguars "seem locked into," Myles Jack at No. 5.
>>66950410
But he has a bad knee
>>66950456
the jaguars have a bad team
>>66950558
So does everyone else in the AFCS
Post a pic that will sum up your team next season.
>49ers
Also, DRAFT HACKENBERG REEEEEEEEEE
>Tom Brady is not an elite quarterback
L-Lads
>>66950814
I'll always have a place in my heart for Brendan Fraser because of The Mummy
>>66950926
Let the phones ring off the hook
The more people trade up and reach on shitty QBs, the better off the real teams of getting good players in the 11-20
So, did anyone hear about this Max Böhringer guy from Germany who rocked his pro day workout and got some invites for training sessions with some teams?
Does he have a chance to make a practise sqad or something?
Apparently he is the most athletic guy in this years WR class.
>>66950814
>>66949650
Stop tampering already
>>66951355
post realistic stats for RG3 if he starts this season
>12 TD's
>8 Rushing TD's
>14 INT
>>66950902
He's one of two (The other being Breezus)
>>66951355
Why is he licking the faceguard?
>>66951480
>25TD
>9Ints
>5 Rushing TDs
>>66950814
>Raiders
>Browns see wide gulf between Goff/Wentz?
so we're putting the Browns in charge of QB analysis
>his GM and HC aren't bros for life
>>66949216
DAMAGE CONTROL OVERDRIVE
>>66950364
Probably somewhere in Georgia. Stafford and Calvin both have a house there iirc and Calvin grew up there.
>you will never get to cheer for the most based team in history
>your team will never regularly upload funny bideos on youtube
>your team will never be the new england patriots
https://youtu.be/PG4mL_oNAD0
How do you cope with this?
>>66952407
Why are the Iggles so adamant about moving up?
>>66952430
They really like Wentz
>>66952407
pls god no
>>66952407
Its like Chip Kelly didnt leave
Things were supposed to get better with his departure
mel kiper just put out possibly the worst mock i've seen this year
1. Jared Goff, QB, Rams
2. Carson Wentz, QB, Browns
3. Laremy Tunsil, OT, Chargers
4. Jalen Ramsey, DB, Cowboys
5. Myles Jack, LB, Jaguars
6. Joey Bosa, DE, Ravens
7. Ronnie Stanley, OT, 49ers
>>>8. Deforest Buckner, DE, Eagles
9. Jack Conklin, OT, Buccaneers
10. Laquon Treadwell, WR, Giants
11. Sheldon Rankins, DT, Bears
12. William Jackson III, DB, Saints
13. Darron Lee, LB, Dolphins
14. Vernon Hargreaves, DB, Raiders
15. Josh Doctson, WR, Titans
16. Shaq Lawson, DE, Lions
17. Reggie Ragland, LB, Falcons
18. Taylor Decker, OT, Colts
19. Emmanuel Ogbah, DE, Bills
20. Germain Ifedi, OT, Jets
21. Ryan Kelly, C, Redskins
22. Corey Coleman, WR, Texans
23. Will Fuller, WR, Vikings
24. A'Shawn Robinson, DT, Bengals
25. Eli Apple, DB, Steelers
26. Artie Burns, DB, Seahawks
27. Kamalei Correa, LB, Packers
28. Vonn Bell, DB, Chiefs
29. Leonard Floyd, LB, Cardinals
30. Kevin Dodd, DE, Panthers
31. Cody Whitehair, OG, Broncos
>>66952529
>3. Laremy Tunsil, OT, Chargers
Wish this meme would die.
>>66952529
Yeah, Elliot in the second round is fucking moronic. I stopped giving a shit what he thinks a while ago. He's the worst.
>>66949170
Get a Rex Grossman jersey
>"I’m hoping to take care of the issues in front of me right now so I can focus on what I have to do if I want to play in 2016,” Manziel wrote in the statement. “I also continue to be thankful to those who really know me and support me."
>"So many people only have one image of Jonathan but, believe it or not, he takes all this very seriously,” Manziel’s spokesperson told USA Today. “He’s hoping that he can clear up his personal issues, start interviewing agents and see what he needs to do if he wants to play this year."
I'm pretty new to the NFL, I've been an MLBfag my whole life.
Am I wrong for thinking this year's QB list is pretty underwhelming? I don't really see anything in Goff or Wentz, which are the projected top of the line QBs this year. The only one I like is Hackenberg and Cook, and Cook I'm not so much on anymore since I figured out he wasn't team captain and there are more than one instances of him acting like a self centered douche.
>>66953056
Sure they are underwhelming, but they tend to be underwhelming every year.We never know who is going to explode into a formidable QB.
Everyone who looks sees the flaws in the QBs, yet media pundits push them hard to hype the draft.
Even when there are big name QBs who do look to be immediate stars like Andrew Luck, he has had his own fair share of problems to deal with and hasnt broken out as great yet. Look what happened to RG3.
When there are QB needy teams, the top ranked QBs in the draft get hyped like crazy.
>>66953056
as far as QB classes go:
2012>2015>2014>2016>2013
Did I fix them?
Can an American please explain this to me?
>>66953350
He had already ran before then
>>66952880
It irks me how much the media has played a part in Manziel's downfall. I'm not saying he hasn't done stupid shit (he's done plenty), but if he's seen anywhere that isn't rehab or a training facility, the assumption is that he's getting into trouble and every sportscaster has to analyze what this means for his future in football.
Seen at a friend's house? They're probably all smoking crack and setting the neighbor's cat on fire.
Seen at a Buffalo Wild Wings? He probably just finished doing body shots before raping one of the waitresses in a bathroom.
Seen at his home? He probably just ordered LSD off the internet and will end up fighting a police officer because he thinks he's come to take Manziel back to the 6th dimension where he'll stay imprisoned forever.
>>66953500
my friend its only going to get worse with todays shitty media.
I blame the massive people who will to TMZ and Perezhilton
>>66950929
>you will never get to scream at sketchy benny
If >we trade down to the 8th pick, who's the safest to take?
Treadwell?
>>66954685
Ronnie Stanley.
>>66954685
This >>66954872
Treadwell is Braylon Edwards the 2nd
Elliot might be available if the Ravens don't take him.
>>66955390
treadwell is a headcase?
>>66954685
>Treadwell?
Im not sure how to tell you this.....
But Treadwell didnt make it back from his last trip to the grizzlies...
American Presidents and their football positions
Andrew Jackson would be GOAT QB
Teddy Roosevelt would be GOAT RB
>>66955459
William Taft as a Tackle
>>66955638
>Not the GOAT NT
>>66955653
He's could play both since it'd be too hard to get him off the field.
>>66955459
Grover Cleveland and Zachary Taylor at Guard
>>66955459
Trump would be goat OLB
>>66955459
>Obama at WR, CB, and S
>>66955759
"Build a wall? I AM THE WALL"
>>66955459
Bernie Sanders as towel manager
>>66955894
NFLPA representative
>>66955894
Bernie is Marty from Not Another Teen Movie
>>66955459
>andy j not on defense
waste of that ferociousness desu
>>66956049
>>66955459
I think Reagan could be an elite QB desu
>>66955894
He is Marc Trestman
post qb/wr broships
Police I'll gib you Mauer for Pooholes or Bunghole Park
Guuuuuuys the "eagles are trading up to #2 for Wentz" rumors are starting again... make it stop pls.
>>66956292
>post shit team that haven't won shit in 40 years
OH WAIT, you already did
>>66956838
It's pathetic how quick you're becoming the tripfag I hate the most, you're becoming tiki tier god damn
>>66956838
holy shit are you on your period or something?
>>66955459
FDR as DC
used to be a former player until crippled
>>66950814
>Chargers
>>66957524
Let us hope McCoy gets his shit together with Whiz back.
>>66956838
lel obsessed?
>>66956838
But the Giants are on their way to becoming Jets tier, you literally have no room to talk.
>>66950814
>burrs
can't wait to beat the packers and lose to some shit team like the fucking 49ers again
>>66955459
Truman would be a great OC imo
>eagles actually trading up into the 2nd pick
kill me
>>66957687
W E N T Z
Bradford to the Jets for their 2nd.
>>66950814
>Panthers
Is the Jags defense actually gonna be decent next year? They added Malik Jackson, Amukamara, and Gipson, and they're essentially guaranteed one of Bosa, Buckner, and Ramsey, but I can't help feeling like that's only good on paper
ALMOST A WEEK UNTIL INSANITY
>>66957830
They'll be around the 16th best.
>>66957830
It's a Florida team, of course a good offseason will translate to a successful regular season
>>66957830
i guess you could call it the dream team
>>66957830
Good enough to lose 10 games by 3 points instead of 30
>>66957892
Also this
>>66957978
Hot hand in a cooter.
>>66957830
Is Dante Fowler coming back?
>muh sports science
Yo fags I'm from the future
The Queens pick up that German wideout with their fifth.
Browns trade out of the 2nd
Jags miss the playoffs
Saints spend a 4th on that fucking kicker from FSU
>>66957978
Dare I say the most magical OC in the league?
Thank You Based Cooter
>>66958184
Yeah but I'm not sure how good he'll be compared to everyone else. ACL tears are huge and he still hasn't played a single NFL down.
>>66958360
Who do the browns trade in to?
Who do they pick?
>>66958555
#8
Elliot
Stan the man goes to the 49ers
Jags despite being "so much better on D" are ranked 18th overall.
>>66958360
>Jags miss the playoffs
not that far into the future I see
Is he the best left tackle in the league?
>>66957549
I'm not too worried about the offense (because whiz is coming back), I'm hoping our defense gets their shit together. That run-def was so horrible and were prone to giving up way too many big plays
>>66958583
Who does cleveland take at 32?
Also who wins the owl?
>>66958614
Good thing they picked up Mebane and Perryman has been great thus far.
I'm hoping they go defense-heavy in the draft.
>>66958619
D O C T S O N
(I thought Boyd would have been better in the 3rd round but Doctson has been solid)
I'm not the spoiling type, let's just put it at it's a team no one will expect.
Bold Prediction
>Broncos acquire Kaep
>Broncos trade Kaep, the #31 pick, a second rounder and a future first for #2 from the Browns
>They draft Wentz
>>66958652
But...isn't Doctson going in the first round to the Bengals/Vikes?
>>66950979
he might go in the later rounds
he's too unrefined to be a starter anywhere
but he's physically gifted, so hopefully he can get the technical skill
So I'm kind of new to NFL, but why do shit teams stay shit if they're given preferential treatment for the draft?
>>66958652
Is Doctson better than Gordon his rookie year?
Also who wins DROTY and OROTY?
He did nothing wrong.
>>66958692
Can usually be attributed to a shitty front office
>revolving door of coaches and QBs
>bad scouting/drafting
>terribly overblown player contracts
sometimes its just a difficult division
>>66958692
Nobody can guarantee players in the draft will be good.
For instance, Raiders with Jamarcus Russlel in 2007. Picked first overall, ended up being a gigantic bust.
Apart from that, coaching. Even great players don't do well under shit coaching.
>>66958683
>Bengals/Vikes
No and No.
Bengals keep with the sort of drafting they've been doing these passed few years.
Vikings managed to pick up a really good piece for their defense though.
>>66958715
Similar yardage, lower average.
OROTY - Goff (despite not deserving it)
DROTY - Darron Lee with seven sacks and surprisingly a few forced fumbles.
>>66958692
draft order doesn't make that big a difference, especially past the first round.
>>66958764
>The Oakland Raiders had a chance to draft
>Calvin Johnson
>Adrian Peterson
>Darrelle Revis
>Joe Thomas
>Marshawn Lynch
>Greg Olsen
>>66958692
Bad coaching/bad front office is hard to overcome with the best talent. You could give the Browns Aaron Rodgers, JJ Watt, and Antonio Brown, but they would still be shit.
>>66958692
Shit teams usually have shit front offices, this tends to have them be bad teams for years until the owner makes a change. For some teams they just go from one bad front office to another so they don't improve or they improve just enough to not be at the bottom but not good enough to be at the top of the division.
>>66958757
None of the Lion faggots on here have been fans long enough to know anything about him
>>66958766
How does Wentz do? How does Elliott do in Cleveland? Does RGKnee get injured?
How far do the Raiders make it?
Who goes 1 and 2 in the 2017 draft?
Give us a rundown of the 2016 draft.
>>66948442
Who dey niggers
>>66958635
>defense-heavy in the draft
my thoughts exactly
who do you prefer for #3 overall?
I like Ramsey, only to complete our secondary and then head for D-line later.
I'm just not too sold on buckner, seems like another kendall reyes, has all the physicals, but I question whether that can translate to being productive
Who usually has the most accurate mock draft?
>>66958942
Ramsey, all the way.
Buckner would be my fall-back pick if he's gone -- and I'm still not sold on him, but he seems the best of what'd be there at that spot.
>>66958594
Indisputably the GOAT
And he's not even a ring chaser either
>>66958932
He does fine in the little time he does play.
Elliot performs well, 1037yds, 9tds.
He misses three games but is okay overall
-
Second round of the playoffs, close game at first but lose grasp as the game goes on.
Watson and Garrett are the top 2
Kaaya falls to thirteen
Fournette busts hard, HARD.
>>66959059
>willingly being on the browns
id say chasing a ring is better than running as far away as possible
>>66959114
i disagree
no one respects lebron for ring chasing and how no one respects players who get their rings on the pats other than brady and gronk.
loyalty is very admirable, especially for a bad team.
>>66959174
LeBron would have been forced to rot on the Cavs
Reminder that Zeke Elliott will bust harder than any top 15 non qb (unless Chicago takes Leonard Floyd)
>>66959174
Lebron would be a complete joke if he stayed on the Cavs and retired with no rings.
>>66959301
Only because he's a crybaby choker with no clutch
>>66959301
i would still respect him more for it then being Wade's Bitch in Miami.
>>66957830
They still have a shit coach, and bortles throws a lot of ints
>>66958594
He's one of the best tackles in the history of football. I think he's very much on par with guys like Roaf, Munoz and Jones.
>>66959114
What's wrong with loyalty, honestly? He himself said that piggybacking a great team to a ring would feel like cheating to him and he'd either have one with the Browns or none at all.
Can someone explain to me why did the Titans hire that monumental faggot Mularkey as the HC? He was pure shit as an OC in Atlanta and pure shit as a HC in Jacksonville too, I just legitimately don't understand what anyone sees in him.
>>66955459
Dubya as Tony Romo desu
>>66959499
rings don't mean anything if you had to team up with other superstars to get them
>>66958993
me
1. Rams- Jared Goff QB
2. Eagles (trade)- Carson Wentz QB
3. Bucs (trade)- Joey Bosa DE
4. Cowboys- Jalen Ramsey S
5. Jags- Laremy Tunsil OT
6. Niners (trade)- Paxton Lynch QB
7. Ravens (trade)- Zeke Elliott RB
8. Browns (trade)- Emmanuel Ogbah OLB
9. Chargers (trade)- Myles Jack LB
10. Giants- Vernon Hargreaves III CB
11. Bears- Sheldon Rankins DE
12. Saints- A'shawn Robinson DT
13. Dolphins- Germain Ifedi OG
14. Lions (trade)- Ronnie Stanley OT
15. Titans- Jack Conklin OT
16. Raiders (trade)- William Jackson III CB
17. Falcons- Shaq Lawson DE
18. Colts- Derrick Henry RB
19. Bills- Jason Spriggs OT
20. Jets- Connor Cook QB
21. Redskins- Laquon Treadwell WR
22. Texans- Ryan Kelly C
23. Vikings- Josh Doctson WR
24. Bengals- Will Fuller WR
25. Steelers- Mack Alexander CB
26. Seahawks- Javon Hargraves DT
27. Packers- Andrew Billings DT
28. Chiefs- Jihad Ward DE
29. Titans (trade)- Karl Joseph S
30. Panthers- Eli Apple CB
31. Broncos- Hunter Henry TE
>>66959907
If Rams pick Goff there's no way in fucking hell the Browns don't pick Wentz.
>>66959954
Hue apparently likes Goff and the Eagles are really high on Wentz.
>>66959989
Browns started spreading rumors that they want Goff only AFTER the Rams traded up, to make it look like Goff was their guy all along and not a 2nd option. Hue wants Wentz, trust me.
>>66956869
>>66956974
>>66957564
Literally can't handle the bantz
>>66960077
>Defending a trip
Beta af
>>66959954
>>66959989
Wentz sucks. Hue knows football and he knows Goff is good. Howie knows jewstuff and value and Wentz is coveted
>Mayock listed "Midwestern values" as a big reason why Wentz was the top guy
You're jew is getting jewd buy Wentz's agent.
The guy takes forever to throw the ball when he does decide to throw, and needs a huge, clean pocket for that big stride. He's not Flacco who can get dragons off from any body position
>>66960043
I'm not sure the Browns are convinced, 2bh.
>>66960120
He is actually very similar to Flacco. Goff is another Brady Quinn.
>>66959907
>drafting O-linemen in the first round unless they're going to be GOAT and the team has few other needs
>>66960256
Left tackle is one of the Big 4 value positions in the league. Only a handful of guys each year come into the league that can actually play at above replacement level. And good luck with your team if you don't have one.
Every year teams draft offensive linemen, especially tackles abouve where meme wbsites have them "projected" and every year pleb fans bitch about it because they can't play as the new rookie toy on Madden
>>66959907
1. Carson Wentz, QB, Rams
2. Jared Goff, QB, Browns
3. Laremy Tunsil, OT, Chargers
4. Jalen Ramsey, DB, Cowboys
5. Myles Jack, LB, Jaguars
6. Joey Bosa, DE, Ravens
7. Deforest Buckner, DE, 49ers
8. Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Eagles
9. Noah Spence, DE, Buccaneers
10. Ronnie Stanley, OT, Giants
11. Vernon Hargreaves, DB, Bears
12. Sheldon Rankins, DT, Saints
13. Mackensie Alexander, DB, Dolphins
14. Robert Nkemdiche, DT, Raiders
15. Laquon Treadwell, WR, Titans
16. Jack Conklin, OT, Lions
17. Leonard Floyd, LB, Falcons
18. Taylor Decker, OT, Colts
19. Darron Lee, LB, Bills
20. A'Shawn Robinson, DT, Jets
21. Jarran Reed, DT, Redskins
22. William Jackson III, DB, Texans
23. Josh Doctson, WR, Vikings
24. Michael Thomas, WR, Bengals
25. Eli Apple, DB, Steelers
26. Will Fuller, WR, Seahawks
27. Reggie Ragland, LB, Packers
28. Shaq Lawson, DE, Chiefs
29. Emmanuel Ogbah, DE, Cardinals
30. Corey Coleman, WR, Panthers
31. Christian Hackenberg, QB, Broncos
>>66960524
I pray the trainwreck that is the Eagles don't draft muh boy Zeke.
>>66960524
Hold up. You must be mistaken, where is the New England Patriots first round pick?
>>66960601
cringe
>>66960601
The Browns have it.
>>66960579
why we'll take real good care of him i promise
>>66960670
i agree
>taking a QB
nah nigga, they getting picks and building a team.
>>66960524
Noah Spence will be a 4th round or later pick
>>66960790
>being this retarded
>>66960707
looks like some high school kid practicing with his dad who is also the coach of the team
>>66960790
on talent alone he should go in the first
>>66960707
>RG3 goes on IR by week 2
You know it's gonna happen.
t. Browns fan
>>66960837
>>66960838
Isn't Noah Spence a crack head? No way he goes in the first
>>66960579
lel they're going to give the browns the farm to draft goff or wentz
>midwestern values
>>66960884
Ron Jaworski called him a "Faith Based" guy when he was raving about him.
QB scouting is such bullshit sometimes. No wonder there are so many busts
>>66960871
Not crack, molly.
>>66960871
molly cuz rave scene
but he's been clean for a while now and went to a fucking nowhere school instead of partying at aOSU
plus he's so fucking talented as a pass rusher, if we needed one in the draft i'd want him the most
>>66960914
I agree, they should draft guys who don't live spiritual lives like Johnny Manziel and Josh Freeman
>>66951892
is Kubiak one of those people who never get old ?
>>66960935
Extremes, bruh.
>>66959907
not sure the Broncos are picking a TE
Green shows potential and Heuerman hasnt played
>>66960920
>>66960930
I'm sorry but if you're a big enough shitbag to get kicked off an Urban Meyer coached team I'd take you immediately off my draft board
>>66960935
You are making it sound like everyone is either maximum Christian like Tebow or a degenerate like Manziel.
>>66960984
Yet you have no problem rooting for a team full of criminals.
>>66960838
He wasn't even as good as Bosa when they were on the same team and Bosa was just a freshman. He's a huge liability in the run game, not even considering his many, many character flags.
People love overrating and "projecting" the meme underweight black pass rushers as being alot better than they actually are. I guess it's contrarianism too.
>"Nah fuck Bosa, the guy everyone has known is the best for 3 years, I need the NEW hotness"
If Joey Bosa's name was Jayron Bosa and he was skinnier and decided to stop playing awesome run defense he'd probably be the most coveted prospect in this draft .
>I'd take you immediately off my draft board
>>66961018
what even are you talking about
>>66961016
Less criminals then the Broncos, Steelers, Bengals or Patriots... but keep on memeing
>>66961018
i mean he's an average run defender, but he's far from a liability, he has tremendous burst and he's a really good tackler as well
he might go in like the second round just because of the off the field stuff but he's a legitimate top 15 talent in the draft
>>66961147
Spence is this year's Randy Gregory. He's an undersized pass rusher with character concerns who won't make it in the NFL
>>66960982
How's the ilb depth now that Trevathan is gone? I assume Barrett still spells Von and Ware
>>66961018
Tbh I kind of agree, the criticism is sometimes completely retarded.
>I know he has great run defense, work ethic and pass rushing technique, but my GUT FEELING tells me he will be just average
I legit read an article like this somewhere.
>>66961231
"no"
gregory was extremely talented but very raw as a player, and he was having off the field concerns up to the draft
spence is polished enough to start day 1 in the NFL and hasn't been in trouble in a couple years
he was getting triple teamed on a pretty regular basis in college and he still put up big stats, and his technique is evident if you watch him play
>>66955459
Ford as center
>biggest needs are safety d-line and center
>"The Chargers should get Tunsil or Jack at #3" -- draft "experts"
when will these memes die
>>66961285
Wanna place a bet on it friendo?
>>66961351
tbf the chargers have big holes pretty much everywhere
>>66961368
on what exactly
>>66961277
Its because he's white. People only want white guys at QB, Oline, Middle Linebacker and now slot reciever.
Before the 2011 draft everyone said JJ Watt would bust hard
>>66961395
I have literally never been wrong when it comes to judging pass rushers. Ever. Called highly touted prospects like Jarvis Jones, Vic Beasley, Dupree, Jammal Anderson, Gaines Adams, Clowney etc etc as busts...
If Spence isn't a bust I'll post a pic of me wearing a Dawkins jersey that I bought, you do the same in a Reed jersey if Spence is a hit.
>If Spence isn't a bust I'll post a pic of me wearing a Dawkins jersey that I bought, you do the same in a Reed jersey if Spence is a hit.
>>66961499
that's pretty cute but i don't have the disposable income to be dropping hundreds on jerseys for bets
if spence busts, i'll admit you were right, but i really don't think he's going to
>>66961351
Jack is the BIGGEST MEME I've seen recently. I was about to buy in the hype and then actually went and watched his games and ended up being unimpressed.
>great coverage LB, but that's not enough to warrant a top 5 pick
>absolute shit as a pass rusher
>has trouble shedding blocks
>too undersized to be really relevant in NFL level run defense
>half of his hype is based on raw athleticism and the other half on when he played as a RB
I honestly don't understand if all these "experts" are retarded / paid off by agents or there's something arcane about him that I just can't see on tape.
>>66961528
Pussy
>>66961499
>If Spence isn't a bust I'll post a pic of me wearing a Dawkins jersey that I bought, you do the same in a Reed jersey if Spence is a hit
A grown man unironically made this bet on a tibetan throat singing website
>>66961531
I agree everytime I watched Jack from 2014 I thought Eric Kendricks stood out as the better linebacker
>>66961531
jaylon smith was a better talent but idk his injury seems really serious
>>66961554
lmao
what if the ravens draft spence?
>>66961630
>lmao
>what if the ravens draft spence?
Really don't see that happening but I'd defer to Ozzie Newsome's judgement there. He is the best after and I'm just some 26 year old shitposting on /sp/.
>>66961531
>>66961610
Not to mention everyone is raving about his "versatility" which I understood to be a code word for "we don't really fucking know where to put this guy".
>>66961656
>tfw Baltishit stole based Ozzie from the Browns and he'll never come back
>>66959174
>no one respects players who get their rings on the pats other than brady and gronk
>>66961656
if he falls to the second and you don't go DE in the first it would be a good option
i'm sure ozzie has some sort of plan though, the ravens never draft this high
>>66961531
>>66961610
yeah, kendricks babby. it's all >muh athleticism and >muh potential. him getting injured and leaving UCLA early helped him, less sample space for the draft "experts" to judge him on
>>66961395
they don't need new starters at tackle or inside linebacker. definitely depth, but you don't fucking draft depth at #3
>>66959907
Wentz played against teams that would have trouble beating some high school teams and parties more than Manziel does anybody drafting him is an idiot
>>66961248
depth chart says Corey Nelson is starting,but i thought it was Todd Davis
both did good in pre season games
>>66961866
>le FCS is high school level meme
You're legitimately retarded. Of course it's not like those teams have FBS P5 level of talent, but Jacksonville State has almost beaten Auburn if it wasn't for refball. Auburn was ranked in the top 15 at that point of the season. Portland State has also beaten Wazzu.
Also, Flacco too played in the FCS and nobody seems to give a fuck now.
>>66960120
NDSU is also a party school that revolves around football. Wentz will probably end up like Manziel. The football players are untouchable and they know it and take advantage of it. NDSU fans don't help either though, nothing like going to a party and seeing 1/2 the Bison football team passing around and gangbanging a blacked out drunk 14 year old while her dad stands outside the room getting autographs.
>>66961950
And of course I forgot about Citadel beating SCar.
>>66961554
Old bay, police, popeye, and all tripfag s ITT
How will teddy do this year and will he ever be a competent QB?
Does he have the tools to not be between 27 and 32nd ranked QB?
I remember loving his tape in school? Are the apologists right and he just needs a WR1 and Oline and less all day? I figured Peterson would be a crutch for this faggot.
>>66961970
NDSU also beat Big 12 teams in consecutive years
NDSU blew ISU the fuck out even though Wentz had an average game.
>>66962059
actually to expand on this
between 2010 and 2015, NDSU went 5-0 against FBS teams. 3 were Big 12 teams, 1 was Big 10 and the other was Mountain West.
>>66962043
>le norv turner face
>12 AM already
>Know I am going to wind up staying up all night again and having no energy in work tomorrow
>Colin Kaepernick is still on the 49ers roster and there isn't even a glimmer of hope of that changing
One thing is for certain, I'm not sleeping to avoid any nightmares.
>>66962043
Teddy is a poor man's Alex Smith breh
>>66961531
>>66961630
>>66961610
>>66961663
>>66961723
You literally just described darron Lee and people are hype about him too
But at least he isn't a top 5 pick I guess
Except instead of "has trouble shedding blocks" Darron lee literally can't shed blocks
>>66962043
Game manager status
If he can work on his arm andget more time in the pocket to actually get the confidence to throw (read: get better OL) then he could improve. His WRs are still not at the point that he can put in their hands and theyll do something with it so his stats are not great. Doesnt help hes in one of the hardest divisions in the league. Maybe in like 3 years, after some good drafts/signings andAD is on his way out (a natural trnasition into a passing offense, losing a workhorse RB), he might be able to do something
Until then
>sleep tight memey
>>66950814
>le dry playoffs team
>>66961963
>midwestern values
>>66962043
He's a .22 in a division of artillery cannons
Sadly he just isn't gonna get any better. He's regressed and any accomodations and fixes applied to him aren't going to fix what's broken. Which would be his inability to read a field or throw a ball.
He's the best quarterback in the league at Madden for sure. So you got that.
2.60 Leonte Carroo, WR Rutgers
2.61 Kyler Fackrell, EDGE Utah St
3.91 Scooby Wright III, ILB Arizona
3.96 C.J. Prosise, RB Notre Dame/Keith Marshall, RB Georgia
Plz no bully
>"""people""" who dont know Jordy Nelson is a top 3 WR
Is Dak gonna be a bust?
Just getting into this sport lads, who do i bandwagon
Are we ever going to not suck again /sp/?
>>66962598
any family/friends living in the states?
>>66962598
Bears of course
>tfw this beautiful drunk motherfucker will turn the Redskins into a Dynasty in like 3 more years
So does Philadelphia have a chance to do well this year now that Chip has moved on to wreck the 49ers?
>>66963598
yup desu
sadly the fucking preseason niggers didn't let us face SF
>>66963598
As long as they don't trade their souls away for Cleveland's pick and are smart at #8, they should be relevant.
>>66959366
Except now he has a healthy Julius Thomas and Ivory to take the load off. Jags are winning 10+ next season lad
Philly isn't that bad, you're just under the control of the Jew York media that paints them as dipshit fans
>>66964391
Uh, no
Based on FA so far who's going to the playoffs?
AFC: Pats, Steelers, Jags, Raiders, Bengals, Chiefs
NFC: Cowboys, Packers (will win the Super Bowl), Panthers, Seahawks, Vikings, Cardinals
>>66964444
Assuming everyone's healthy
>1. Patriots, Panthers
>2. Steelers, Packers
>3. Chiefs, Seahawks
>4. Jaguars, Eagles
>WC1. Broncos, Cardinals
>WC2. Raiders, Buccaneers
>>66964524
>2016 Broncos
>Making the playoffs
Pick one and only one
>>66964444
>AFC
1. Pats
2. Steelers
3. Raiders
4. Texans
5. Bengals
6. Broncos
NFC:
1. Cardinals
2. Panthers
3. Eagles
4. Packers
5. Falcons
6. Giants
Steelers-Cardinals owl, Cardinals win in overtime.
>Asked about the possibility of Eagles moving to No. 2 for a QB, Sam Bradford says, "That's above my pay grade."
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE YOU FUCKING FUCK WE GET IT
TAKE YOUR FUCKING MONEY AND DON'T RUB IT IN
>>66964640
Actually replace Bingles with Chiefs.
>>66964640
>overtime superbowl.
Teams don't play for overtime in superbowls, they specifically gameplan it that way. If theres even a sliver of time on the clock with the game tied, they're gonna try to score and win the game.
>>66964640
>broncos making wildcard
>giants making wildcard
>falcons making wildcard
>packers not getting at least 3rd seed with easy schedule
>>66964640
Have you SEEN Green Bay's schedule? Packers are getting a 3 seed at worst if everyone actually plays
Likewise, the Falcons aren't winning 7 games, let alone enough to get the first wild card
>>66964444
1: New England
2: Denver
3: Cincinatti
4: Houston
5: Oakland
6: Pittsburgh
1: Carolina
2: Arizona
3: Minnesota
4: Dallas (at 8-8)
5: Atlanta
6: Seattle (at at least 10-6)
Most of this will probably change like, immediately.
>>66964650
A lot of coaches do this in the regular season, they still go to OT every so often.
>>66958690
That would sure as hell help the sport get even more recognition in germany.
Only german guys right now in the nfl are some fat linemen.
Well, he should be pretty trainable. looks like a smart guy with a good background and a straight head to me.
Basically guaranteed to not display any "nigger" behaviour and actually listen to the trainers.
One can hope.
>>66964652
>>66964536
Are Sanchez, Connor Cook or DakPrescott really that much worse than 2015 Peyton? They still have most of that defense intact, I don't think they're going to repeat, but playoffs are possible.
>>66964729
Can somebody link me a pc football game?
Or a torrent? I just don't know what to use
How do I find updated rosters for 2k5 and Madden 06? I don't even have those games either.
Also the safeties in this draft class have me pulling my hair out. I have no idea which ones are gonna be good.
>>66950979
You're talking about that Moritz guy, right? I could see a team taking a flyer on him in a later round. He's obviously raw as all hell but being fast and tall with great elevation is going to get him a chance somewhere.
>>66964640
>AFC
1. Patriots
2. Colts
3. Ravens
4. Broncos
5. Raiders
6. Steelers
Just miss out: Bills, Chargers
>NFC
1. Seahawks
2. Packers
3. Panthers
4. Giants
5. Cardinals
6. Saints
Just miss out: Lions, Cowboys
>>66964729
Cincinatti isn't making the playoffs unless they draft a godlike WR, and Atlanta's schedule is ruthless.
>>66964866
I still expect Cincinnati to be the most complete team in the North, honestly. Pittsburgh could top them (Easily, in fact) but as it stands at this exact moment, I've got the Bengals on top of that division. Atlanta is an iffy pick but they're a team with the right talent and coaching staff to put a good run together, so missing the playoffs would be a hell of a failure for them. Between them and Seattle seems like a coin flip at 5/6.
>>66964862
>ravens
>>66964810
Madden 08, I actually bought it so I can't link you a torrent.
http://www.footballidiot.com/forum just updated the roster for Free Agency.
Plus theres a whole bunch of legacy rosters and stuff for download.
Theres also still online via a special server or something but I've never tried to use it.
>>66964444
>>66964640
>>66964862
>AFC
1. Pats (13-3)
2. Steelers (13-3)
3. Chiefs (12-4)
4. Texans (10-6)
5. Jags (10-6)
6. Raiders (9-7)
Just out: Broncos, Bills, Colts
>NFC
1. Packers (13-3)
2. Panthers (12-4)
3. Seahawks (12-4)
4. Eagles (9-7)
5. Cardinals (11-5)
6. Vikings (10-6)
Just out: Rams, Bucs, Lions
>>66964902
Lol you mean like the last 2 years for atlanta? The failclowns are fucking shit. Matt Ryan is a certified choker
>>66964960
I'll see if I can find it somewhere
Deandre Levy will get 150 tackles this season
>>66965011
Who?
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000654379/article/aqib-talib-broncos-arent-getting-proper-respect
what a baby
>>66965005
Theres also updated playbooks that match the updated Madden Playbooks too, the download link is gone but I still have them, so if you want them here you go https://a.pomf.cat/khbusr.rar
they're kinda buggy though.
Also I just found out people lose their helmet in this game, did they ever add that back in?
>>66964902
Bengals noatable losses this off season (doesn't include Sanu cos he's garbage)
>Reggie Nelson
>Andre Smith
>Marvin Jones
>Leon Hall (mostly played like shit but great locker room leader)
>Offensive Coordinator Hue Jackson
>Defensive Line Coach Vance Joseph
Throw that in with their schedule which includes
>Week 1 @ Jets
>Week 2 @ Steelers
>Week 3 vs Broncos
>Week 5 @ Cowboys
>Week 6 @ Patriots
>Week 10 @ Giants
>Week 11 vs Bills
>Week 12 @ Ravens
>Week 15 vs Steelers
>Week 16 @ Texans
>Week 17 vs Ravens
I shouldn't doubt them after making the playoffs 6 of the last 7 years but losing Reggie Nelson and Hue Jackson especially is gonna cost them a few games in 2016
>>66964969
Not bad but why Eagles? Can't understand any reason for optimism this year outside of hiring Schwartz as DC. Their roster is very average
>>66965078
I think their floor is the lowest. I don't trust the Cowboys defense, the Giants coaching, and the Redskins consistency.
Eagles are one Top 10 pick away from being respectable imo, but that division is probably the biggest tossup of them all
>>66952529
why do people do mock drafts? its as sad as fantasy football
when are the ratbirds going to find a replacement for suggs? he turns 34 this year and cant stop being a dindu
>>66954791
is that lil wayne?
>>66955459
george "delware scare" washington as head coach
>>66955459
obama as cam newton
>>66955459
Jackson isn't a great qb choice. Washington has the size and decisiveness but Grant and Lincoln would make good choices as well. Bet Lincoln's arm was tremendous
>>66965025
you have tripped the casual filter
time 2 go
>>66958682
Wentz will be gone at #2 fool
>>66965011
Who?
>>66958682
That's not worth it.
is clowney a bust?
>>66965367
No.
The team he is on went from 2-14 to back to back winning seasons after he was taken #1 overall.
Numbers don't lie.
>>66955459
Truman at QB, he could throw pretty good deep bombs.
>>66965515
I kek'd
290 Days Until The Seahawks Win Super Bowl LI.
>>66955459
Gerald Ford
Guy played center, linebacker, and long snapper for Michigan
Won two championships and went undefeated one season
>>66949412
I think it's great when the fans throw shit at these bums
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnXOljWY3gY
>>66955459
Obviously TJ and jadams as OC/DC
Grant or ajax at strong safety
Jimmy Carter as the holder
Dick Nix is a pass rusher
>>66949412
Atlanta is pretty trashy too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-9PcuudMAQ
>>66955459
William Henry Harrison as Cleveland QB
Cincinnati is a pretty city
>>66955459
LB Gerald ford who turned down offer to play pro by the lions
LB Nixon
LB Eisenhower
DE teddy Roosevelt
DE U.S. grant
Dt Taft
Dt Garfield
CB Obama
SS Reagan
Fs lincoln
Fb Clinton nigga played rugby
Rb Bush 2
Wr fdr
Wr woody Wilson
Wr Washington
Qb Andrew Jackson/Jimmy carter
>>66955459
Bush Jr. as cheerleader, because was literally a male cheerleader at Yale.
>>66964862
>Broncos winning AFC West
>Raiders getting a wildcard
>Chargers "just miss out"
Predicting the Chiefs to come in last is bold and I like it.
>>66965803
>turned down the Lions
Who wouldn't
>>66964862
>>Just miss out: Bills, Chargers
>Chargers
Yay, another year with a playoff berth.
>>66965803
>No Bush Sr
Guy was a stud lunkswinger at Yale.
>>66965827
Chiefs actually had a pretty good offseason too I just think smeth will have a down year and their pass rush will take a big hit without Houston for 8+ games
Ravens
>>66965960
will go 8-8
>>66965982
More like 6-10
get shitted on
>>66965393
2/10 made me reply
>>66950979
He's tall and sorta fast but that's about it. I'm sure he'll be in someone's camp but his tape isn't jaw dropping or anything
>>66965175
If it's a faggit trip screen cap it along with their schedule predictions and use it to make fun of them for the next 7 or so months
DeAndre Washington is the next Kevin Faulk. He's Wes Welker with an RB skill set. Patriots already have that type of talent, but maybe he slips to the 6th round.
>>66966055
Wilson has got to be the most frustrating player for defenders to play against
>>66966110
>>66950979
Every once in a while there's some Eurocuck who impresses the coaches only to bust utterly and completely in the NFL. See Bjorn Werner and that Russian fag on the Bengals.
remember how Old Bay said Will Hill & Eric Weddle were going to be the best safety tandem in da league?
loving every laugh
>>66966222
They would have been but Will Hill is a fucktard who cant stop smoking dope
posting in honor of the greatest country on earth
JAMAICA MON
>>66966184
They always seem to be huge monsters that haven't had the key rule in handegg stressed into their muscle memory, & that is.. low man wins, everytime.
So, it sounds like the Eagles and Browns are sitting on this trade:
>To PHI
#2 overall
>To CLE
#8 overall
2016 3rd
2017 1st
2017 3rd
This may be announced before the draft, but it sounds like it's over a 50% chance that it happens.
Now for the real question: is Wentz gonna be a bust?
>>66966355
He was, but he might have a fighting chance in Philly.
>>66966355
Rams are taking Wentz so Philly will be stuck with Goff
who's the best fullback/h-back in the draft?
>>66966375
That's not what I've been hearing.
>>66966383
>listening to a tripfaggot
How dumb are you?
>>66966375
>literally everyone thinks the rams want Goff
>some retard tripfag is sure they want Wentz
Ok well they must want Wentz then
>>66966355
As a Browns fan if we don't get Wentz I'm all for trading down. Just stay the fuck away from Goff that guy will be a complete QB bust even by Cleveland standards.
>>66966355
that's too much to pay for some project D3 QB
>>66966383
Where have you heard that? I've seen a fuck ton of sources linking Wentz to Los Angeles
>>66966398
Where do you think you are?
>>66966410
Goff is a much better passer than Wentz is, you couldn't have watched much tape to arrive at that conclusion
>>66966355
>TFW Tunsil won't fall to #8
Treadwell here we come
>>66966172
Wilson or Rodgers. Those are probably the two worst qbs for defenses to play
>>66966443
I have. Goff is literally the second coming of Brady Quinn, I dread the idea of us picking him.
>>66966406
It's like 50/50 but Wentz is clearly the better year one qb
>>66966444
Brees is the hardest to play against if you don't have a strong push on the interior.
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>>66966468
I'm not saying which is better. I'm saying most people around the nfl seem to think the rams will pick Goff
>>66966494
>>66966383
>>66966406
The fuck are you on about nigger, everyone is saying they're picking Wentz.
>inb4 my dad works for Rams
>>66966462
Got to agree with you here, I don't get the Goff hype.
>>66966462
That's not a very good comparison at all. Goff is a much stronger passer towards the boundaries, moves in the pocket better, and is better pre-snap. Quinn thrived due to his system, Goff thrived in spite of his
>>66966507
Most people on here are retarded like that
What if the Rams pull some Kevin Costner bullshit and draft a linebacker or something?
Goff is Manning, as Wentz is to whom?
>>66966575
Big Ben.
>>66966584
Big Ben is way more accurate.
Wentz is a bust folks.
>>66966481
How? Both Wilson and Rodgers are scramble masters. Wilson is a better rusher amd Rodgers is better presnap and deep passer. Brees can't do anything better than Rodgers and is only a marginally better passer than Wilson in the pocket
>>66966595
I love when people say "this guy will be a bust" but never explains why.
>>66966595
Wentz has all the measurables you want and can make all the throws. Goff has small hands and will take longer to learn a pro system.
>>66966626
>Measurrables
>Actual game film
Pick one.
>there are currently "people" ITT that prefer Goff over Wentz
>>66966603
Brees has much quicker reads and pinpoint accuracy than either of those guys.
Also Brees can scramble, he just usually doesn't because of injury risk.
>>66966575
Wentz is Flacco, Goff is Quinn.
>>66966640
This.
Wentz is the AFC North super bowl winning QB personified
>Big Arm
>Not a Handlet
>Not a Manlet
>Small school
>Injury history
Literally Flacco and Ben
He's gonna be in the HOF
Goff is Matt Ryan the 2nd though.
>>66966668
Agree with all but the injury history part. I don't think Flacco and Roethlisberger had injury histories in college, and Flacco doesn't have an injury history in the nfl
>>66966693
I meant he will, my bad. I thought Flacco had some minor leg issues early in his career? Probably wrong but you get my point. He is the AFCN QB personified
>>66966184
>that Russian fag on the Bengals
Please elaborate, i've never heard of that
>>66966650
Wentz can't fit it in the small NFL passing windows. I'm telling you.
>Wentz over Goff
>muh small school meme
Ryan leaf
from buttfuckwhere
small school
total bust
Tom Brady
from the greatest state in the union
big school
GOAT
>>66966710
I agree. Can't see some pussy ass boy from California surviving in the AFCN, defenses and the weather are too much for him to handle
>>66966727
Margus Hunt, he's Estonian or some shit. Bengals fell for the meme and spend a second round pick on him and he hasn't done shit.
>>66966746
Who do you want the Ravens to pick by the way?
>>66966764
So taht's why I've never heard of it, because it never actually happened.
>Estonian
>that Russian fag
>American education
>>66966855
You're all the same to us, Rusev
>>66966836
I honestly don't have a clue no real appealing options to me. I'm hoping they trade down.
>>66966908
I don't see who'd they would trade with unless the Burrs really like Stanley or Bucs want Bosa
>>66966885
>Rusev
Are you seriously watching mandrama as an adult in the current year of our lord and savior Jesus Christ?
>>66966930
:^]
>team
>first day draftfu
>second day draftfu
>third day draftfu
>last song you listened to
>Is your QB a manlet
>>66966992
Browns
Tunsil
Doctson / Joseph
Tanner Mcevoy
Super Freak
Nah
>>66966992
Chorgers
RAMSEY
Bullard, if he's there
Nick Martin
Pure
No
>>66966992
Stoolers
Jackson III
Karl Joseph
Chris Jones if he falls otherwise Driskel or Perkins would be neat
>>66966992
Patriots
...
Le'Raven Clark
Cayleb Jones
Andy Stott - Hatch the Plan
No
>>66966112
never thought about that! cant wait to see the detriot lions fans responses when their team doesnt make it to the playoffs... once again, senpai-my-shit-up
>>66967096
Oh and
Wolves
No
>>66948442
>that slow start.....
jesus anyone else see that? he himself looks slow
if you pause it his 10 yard split is 1.75
which is brutal
lane johnson at 303 pounds had a 1.61 10 yard split
>>66967134
Leafman on suicide watch
>>66966992
TTU
La'Raven Clark
Deandre Washington
Jakeem Grant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGdbaEDVWp0
No but he is a hungry skeleton
>>66966855
Most of us don't really know the difference between all the ex-Soviet republics, it's all Russia to us.
>people think a guy that looks like this will be a bust
Come on senpai.
>>66967271
Danny Amendola has a brother?
>Eagles Reportedly Want Trade With Browns Done Today, Could Cost Less Than Reported
IT'S HAPPENING
>>66967306
Are the Browns going to pull an Eric Roberts?
>>66967306
rusemann rusing
2nd overall for ryan mathews
laremy tunsil here we come
paul perkins here we come
>>66966992
>team
Browns
>first day draftfu
Wentz
>second day draftfu
Braxton Miller
>third day draftfu
Robert Nkemdiche
>last song you listened to
Don't remember
>Is your QB a manlet
Not anymore
>>66967306
calling it now fletcher cox and the 8th overall for Clevelands 1 and 2nd round picks. Heard it here first folks.
>>66967314
>>66967323
>>66967343
According to Tony Rizzo, ESPN Cleveland radio host, if the Rams want Goff before the draft, the Cowboys will inquire about trading up to get Wentz.
This draft is crazy.
>>66967343
They should snake a 6th at least.
>>66967328
Robert Nkemdichie won't fall past the Giants in the 2nd round.
>>66967366
>Cleveland sports reporters
Literally all of them are hacks, don't listen to their shit.
>>66967343
Eagles don't have 2nd round picks.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000654433/article/report-baylor-hoops-player-gathers-working-out-for-cowboys
>cowboys are so desperate they're turning to niggerchuck players
>>66967440
Not a Cowboyfag but Jimmy Graham turned out pretty fine.
>>66967440
at rapist school too lmao
>>66967408
next years 2nd
also
can anyone tell me why there is such a hype train around wentz?
if i was the rams i would purely go for the better passer which is Goff who is accurate af
he can easily be a great qb in the nfl with a supportive team around him, even win playoff games, i like him better than winston and kind of similar to mariota
>>66967408
They get Clevelands second round pick (33) and their first round pick (2). The Eagles give up cocks and their first round pick (8).
>>66967503
koks stays
unless cleveland also wants to give up their 2017 1st overall in addition to those other two
>>66966637
Game film of Goff throwing to wide open receivers because he played with a better team
>>66966641
I wouldn't say Brees has noticeably quicker reads or better accuracy than Rodgers.
>>66966992
Vikings
Conklin
Sua cravens
Tyler boyd
Merle haggard stay here and drink
Teddy B is worse than a manlet
>>66967524
So what you're saying is, Cleveland & Philly trade 1rst round picks head up?
I could see the Browns actualy doing this desu.
>>66967546
He does.
>>66967524
Why would Cleveland want to give up the 2 and 33 picks to move back to the 6 spots. The only way they agree to it is if they get a superstar and the only one the giggles have is cox.
>>66967546
Cal's offensive line is dog shit. Wentz literally played for the best team in that division.
>>66967503
>Cox
Can he play OLB?
>>66967558
>being a manlet
>calling someone else a manlet
>shlacky dacky
>>66967603
Probably he's versatile as fuck Senpai. He want too much dough though.
>>66967625
We have cap space.
>>66967581
>he does
Eh, not really. And defenses don't really fear that more than scrambling. Rodger's is the most annoying because he has the best snap count in the league, can scramble very well, and can place the ball anywhere on the field consistantly. No one worries about Bree's breaking contain or his snap count nearly as much
>>66967678
Brees is quite possibly the most accurate passer ever.
>>66967678
*Brees
>>66967701
Yes. But the difference between him and Rodgers is mostly negligent in that respect while the difference between Rodgers and Brees for scrambling is huge
>>66967658
But isn't your gm known for not giving blockbuster deals?
>>66967750
We don't even have a GM, that's the thing.
>>66967603
>me stuggling to find the clip from this year that he was lined up as a linebacker for shits and giggles
holy shit i know it exists i want to make the webm of it
i believe he made tackle for loss on it too
>>66967747
Rodgers also has more arm strength as well
We're all in agreement that Brees is a little more accurate but worse because he's old right?
>>66967772
>giggles
>>66967826
If you had me choose between 2015 Rodgers and 2015 Brees to be on >my team next year, I'd choose 2015 Brees.
>>66967826
I'd say so, yeah. Also he doesn't have as much talent as Rodgers around him.
>>66967747
It's not even about how Brees scrambles, his pocket movement is just way more advanced than any other QB I've ever seen. He knows how to watch the defenders, and can make subtle adjustments to help his line reacquire their block all while keeping his eyes downfield and working through his reads.
>>66967860
Agreed desu. He was better than Rodgers last year.
>>66967826
no but i think we can agree that toxins fans no nothing about good QBs because they've never seen one
>>66967860
Brees seems more consistent to me. Rodgers tends to have small stretches of indecisiveness at times.
>>66967896
Indeed. I've got Brees pocket movement videos in my QB porn folder.
>>66967804
Mybe today, but Brees is a top 3 all time deep passer. Rodgers is top 3 as well so the difference there is negligible as well
>>66967826
Yes, Brees is slightly more accurate but overall not as good as Rodgers
>>66967900
I've seen them shit on >muh team
It's about that time for one of you retards to make a new thread 30 posts early isn't it?
>>66967948
dibs
why are philadelphia sports fans such scum?
>>66967961
No SuperbOwls
>Mike Florio is now calling on the NFL to eliminate the kickoff
Why the fuck is this guy even a thing?
>>66967900
Maybe. There are a ton of posters on /sp/ who never see any games outside of their team and rely on ESPN highlights to form opinions. (See: any trip fag post ever)
>>66967860
2015 Rodgers was stellar. He had some bad throws because his receivers couldn't get open and the D could contain every play. Even with his Oline, WRs, and RB having a down year he forcably won games using his snapcount to break off free plays. Yes, he had a couple bad games but I'd say it was an extention of the teams overall play and not him in the end
>>66967984
Fuck off-mic
