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future elite RBs edition

CLE:Report: Browns 'actively shopping' No. 2 pick
FA:Brian Hoyer set to visit Jets on Tuesday
CLG:Browns see wide gulf between Goff, Wentz?
TEN:Report: Titans want to move back into top 10
CLG:Report: Eagles think Wentz is the 'real deal'
DEN:Broncos keep Hillman on 1-yr, $2 million deal
BAL:Perriman running at Ravens offseason program
CLG:Schefter: Browns were never drafting QB at 2
CLG:Schefter: Rams' 'preference' is Goff > Wentz
GB:Report: Packers' Lacy has lost 15-18 pounds
LAR:Case Keenum signs $3.635 million RFA tender
BUF:Rex Ryan hints sides far apart in Tyrod talks
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Lions will draft the best players
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>>66948592
Sure they will!
They already killed it in FA!
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>>66948592
Who will retire in 8 years' time due to depression.
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Dolphins
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>mfw Browns sign an AFL quarterback in an attempt to tank and be guaranteed the #1 pick next year
>mfw they accidentally begin to win and get the city's hopes up
>mfw they go 6-10, pick 8th in 2017, and take a troubled RB in the first round
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>>66948608
Hahahahaha
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>>66948662
All it takes is a new thread to get your bearings straight again?
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>>66948702
Lmao
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Here is a present for you all, a full game from last season to enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-Yy-JGzcHA
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So I thought the whole "trashy philly fan" meme was just that, until I heard about the shit Flyers fans pulled against the Capitols. Jesus philly, how the fuck do you justify your actions. You really are the worst sports fans in the country
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>>66948647
>they get kurt warner 2.0 instead
Bretty sweet
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>>66948905
>So I thought the whole "trashy philly fan" meme was just that,

So you are new to sports?
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>Barry Jackson
@flasportsbuzz
>Mel Kiper just said "you hear Miami trying to move up" from 13 to draft Ohio State RB Elliott, who's visiting Dolphins today.

I really really hope this is Mel kiper spilling the same bullshit from the agents just to drum up attention
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>decide to buy a chicago bears jersey because they've been my team for years
>looking through the player jerseys
>they're all shit players so I don't want to buy any of them
JUST

Maybe I'll just get a Ditka one
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>>66948957
Well considering you don't hear about stabbings and beatings like you do at San Francisco and LA games, yeah... Last you really heard of Philly going crazy was the fucking Santa game. Personally I'd still say San Fran fans are the worst, never had my truck fucked with by Philly fans
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ravens

hold these dubs nigga
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>>66948905
I'm super fucking bored in this lecture, so I'm gonna actually take the weak bait because it'll be entertaining.
>something something Baltipoor fans
>something something rioting so much the Orioles game was unavailable to the public
>something something Cleveland fans got a game forfeited
>something something Atlanta Braves fans had a 30 minute delay because of the shit they pulled
>something something Florida Panthers "fans" and Minnesota Wild fans did the same exact thing this same hockey season.
>implying vast minority of a fanbase is representative of the entire fan base
>implying people don't lash out in times of mourning and we weren't mourning our beloved team founder/owner and our season (which fucking died that game)
>implying this (or worse) wouldn't happen anywhere else
>implying we aren't the "worst fans" because we're top rivals of New York & New York media teams in literally every sport
>implying on a long enough timeline, every fan base doesn't look like shit and our fan base is one of the oldest in sports.
>implying fans who are more invested in their teams don't experience more extreme lows and more extreme highs.

99% of fan outrages for any team or sport are because of bullshit refereeing/disagreements in refereeing decisions. This was one of them. I'd rather have people over react then not give a fuck.
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>>66949170
That happens with rebuilding teams. I read somewhere their new GM has replaced over half of the whole team since he took over 2 years ago.
And when you are doing mass movements of players like that, you are looking to get young so a lot of those players arent going to pan out anyways.

Get a Payton jersey
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>>66949124
He's full of shit and just likes making money from attention. This contradicts his first 4 rounds A grade Mock Draft, which had Elliot retardedly falling into the second round.

>>66949189
The fucking Santa game was in the middle f the 60's. Booing Deon Sanders while he was doing his powwow dance around Michael Irvin which led to more boos was much more recent.

On the topic of Michael Irvin, he himself said he would have booed if he was in the situation.
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You now remember that the 2016 NCAA National Championship-winning QB is a senior.
Will he even be drafted, or was he just a passenger on that Bama team?
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>months of mock drafts 67.0
>draft day comes
>a single trade and it all goes to shit

why do they do it?
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>>66949216
It wasn't b8 dude, and tell you city to stop acting like a bunch of niggers every time they get BTFO. You think they'd be used to it by now
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>>66949290
>This guy's reading comprehension
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>>66949124
>Mel Kiper
>spouting shit

pick two
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>>66949302
Because offseason can get depressingly boring at times.
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>>66949216
>baltimore
>not having the best fans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFr_zlBBa_k

its like you enjoy being a pleb
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>>66949290
>>66949339
I dont think he is making it up. its just the agent for ezkiel elliot trying to drum of some propaganda to get up the draft board.
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>>66949356
If it were Philly they'd have been chucking D cell batteries and beer bottles on the field
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>>66949356
Bullshit chants? That's amateur hour.
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>>66949124
When teams talk about potential trading, do they actually disclose to the other team who they are trying to trade up for?

Also, wouldnt that be really tightly sealed in the front offices to not leak out?

I would think leaking a potential draft pick for another team would be burning bridges in trades.
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>>66949412
Not to mention beating up the kid who was only at the game for the make a wish foundation
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>>66949412
>you now remember bottlegate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-teMkx2vgA
>>66949415
Its not just the fact they were chanting bullshit, its how loud it was at an away game of all places. As for Ray Rice:
>get drunk with loving wife
>do things you wouldnt normally do if you werent

color me suprised
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>>66949299
worth a 7th round pick IMO. Wasn't asked to do much but I do think he made many NFL quality throws throughout the season and he has shown he is determined enough to put in the work to get a roster spot. His size and arm strength are great. Can make plays with his feet too. Only knock on him is that he doesn't come across as too high on the football IQ radar and he had a tendency to hold the ball too long and get sacked as well as throw away into coverage.
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>>66949468
>not an away game

here come the (You)'s
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>>66949468
>>66949520
Where was it then?

They are wearing their home jerseys, there's the Baltimore decals along the stands, and the Ravens logo on midfield and the endzone. The stands are full of purple.

It was loud, but not unheard of for a home game. Was that a dome? I didn't think they had a dome
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God I hope the Raiders are actually good this year. Fuck me.
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Is there any chance the Titans and Browns (with a 2nd tradedown) actually use their picks for decent role players that will have a future with the team?

How can they both pick so high in the draft every year and not ever seem to get out of a rut?
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>>66949597
I don't
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>>66949299
>>66949299
also he played better as the season progressed. His coming out party was the semifinal playoff game against Mich St. Had career highs in yds and TDs if Im not mistaken. Natl championship performance not too shabby either. Hit the open men and gave OJ Howard nice balls where he could use his speed and score. Not a guy to shy away from the big stage
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>>66949650
>yfw Jamaal Charles loses a step because of a blown out knee
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>>66949671
>mfw we still have Charcandrick West and Spencer Ware
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>>66949575
what the fuck are you even implying

I didnt realize it was a home game for the ravens and I corrected it
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Damn CKBB is one sensitive fag. Why haven't you changed your trip fuckboi?
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now I know kiper is bullshit

>Adam Beasley@AdamHBeasley
Kiper has Elliott as 5th or 6th best player on his board. "Elliott is worthy of being a top-5 pick." Said the rumor is MIA trying to move up
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>>66949575
The Ravens don't play in a dome you retarded retard
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>>66949744
Shit posting is lfye and entertaining. Lecture is not.

>>66949736
I just got confused by what you meant by this. >>66949520 like maybe it was a home game that wasn't played at the home stadium for whatever reason. That's all it was.
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>>66949765
Elliott is a top 5 player in this draft, the gap between him and the other's at his position are huge,he's not top 5 in value you though since the position has been so devalued itself.
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>>66949963
so it would be so tannenbaum to over pay for an ok talent.

different answers than I thought I would be getting but still a retarded solution
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I can't wait to see which poor bastard the Rams draft. The rest of the NFCWest is going to do everything they can to RG3 him ASAP
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>>66949889
oh alright I got confused myself

nice steve smith roll
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I have no respect for fanbases that boo their own team.
Its just so bad to do.
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>>66950072
Likewise with the Tra Thomas get.
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>>66948794
Ive been watching this game, and holy shit is it bad.
>4 turnovers in the first half

Get with it detoilet
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>>66949216
meanwhile this gets swept under the rug because it wasn't philthy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JYVZ_1qPM0
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>>66949765
>Tfw Miami trades their 2016 1st, 2017 1st, and Reshad Jones for Cleveland's 1st and drafts Elliot with it
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>>66948592
Reminder that Megatron was a part of the 0-16 team.
We need to burn Detroit to the ground.
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>>66950282
Shit has happened in every city where a professional sports team has alcohol sales.
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>>66950335
>We need to burn Detroit to the ground.

The inhabitants have done a pretty good job themselves.
I wonder what city Megatron is going to move to, to enjoy his retirement
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>>66949765
>>66950305
madman tannenbaum at it again
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Ryan O'Halloran@ryanohalloran

Mel says #Jaguars "seem locked into," Myles Jack at No. 5.
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>>66950410
But he has a bad knee
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>>66950456
the jaguars have a bad team
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>>66950558
So does everyone else in the AFCS
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Post a pic that will sum up your team next season.
>49ers
Also, DRAFT HACKENBERG REEEEEEEEEE
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>>66950814
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>Tom Brady is not an elite quarterback
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L-Lads
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>>66950814
I'll always have a place in my heart for Brendan Fraser because of The Mummy
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>>66950926
Let the phones ring off the hook
The more people trade up and reach on shitty QBs, the better off the real teams of getting good players in the 11-20
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So, did anyone hear about this Max Böhringer guy from Germany who rocked his pro day workout and got some invites for training sessions with some teams?
Does he have a chance to make a practise sqad or something?
Apparently he is the most athletic guy in this years WR class.
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>>66950814
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>>66950814
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>>66949650
Stop tampering already
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>>66951355
post realistic stats for RG3 if he starts this season
>12 TD's
>8 Rushing TD's
>14 INT
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>>66950902
He's one of two (The other being Breezus)
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>>66951355
Why is he licking the faceguard?
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>>66951480
>25TD
>9Ints
>5 Rushing TDs
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>>66950814
>Raiders
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>Browns see wide gulf between Goff/Wentz?

so we're putting the Browns in charge of QB analysis
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>his GM and HC aren't bros for life
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>>66950814
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>>66949216
DAMAGE CONTROL OVERDRIVE
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>>66950364
Probably somewhere in Georgia. Stafford and Calvin both have a house there iirc and Calvin grew up there.
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>you will never get to cheer for the most based team in history
>your team will never regularly upload funny bideos on youtube
>your team will never be the new england patriots

https://youtu.be/PG4mL_oNAD0

How do you cope with this?
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Yo.
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>>66952407
Why are the Iggles so adamant about moving up?
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>>66952430
They really like Wentz
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>>66952407
pls god no
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>>66952407
Its like Chip Kelly didnt leave
Things were supposed to get better with his departure
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mel kiper just put out possibly the worst mock i've seen this year

1. Jared Goff, QB, Rams
2. Carson Wentz, QB, Browns
3. Laremy Tunsil, OT, Chargers
4. Jalen Ramsey, DB, Cowboys
5. Myles Jack, LB, Jaguars
6. Joey Bosa, DE, Ravens
7. Ronnie Stanley, OT, 49ers
>>>8. Deforest Buckner, DE, Eagles
9. Jack Conklin, OT, Buccaneers
10. Laquon Treadwell, WR, Giants
11. Sheldon Rankins, DT, Bears
12. William Jackson III, DB, Saints
13. Darron Lee, LB, Dolphins
14. Vernon Hargreaves, DB, Raiders
15. Josh Doctson, WR, Titans
16. Shaq Lawson, DE, Lions
17. Reggie Ragland, LB, Falcons
18. Taylor Decker, OT, Colts
19. Emmanuel Ogbah, DE, Bills
20. Germain Ifedi, OT, Jets
21. Ryan Kelly, C, Redskins
22. Corey Coleman, WR, Texans
23. Will Fuller, WR, Vikings
24. A'Shawn Robinson, DT, Bengals
25. Eli Apple, DB, Steelers
26. Artie Burns, DB, Seahawks
27. Kamalei Correa, LB, Packers
28. Vonn Bell, DB, Chiefs
29. Leonard Floyd, LB, Cardinals
30. Kevin Dodd, DE, Panthers
31. Cody Whitehair, OG, Broncos
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>>66952529
>3. Laremy Tunsil, OT, Chargers

Wish this meme would die.
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>>66952529
Yeah, Elliot in the second round is fucking moronic. I stopped giving a shit what he thinks a while ago. He's the worst.
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>>66949170
Get a Rex Grossman jersey
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>"I’m hoping to take care of the issues in front of me right now so I can focus on what I have to do if I want to play in 2016,” Manziel wrote in the statement. “I also continue to be thankful to those who really know me and support me."

>"So many people only have one image of Jonathan but, believe it or not, he takes all this very seriously,” Manziel’s spokesperson told USA Today. “He’s hoping that he can clear up his personal issues, start interviewing agents and see what he needs to do if he wants to play this year."
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I'm pretty new to the NFL, I've been an MLBfag my whole life.

Am I wrong for thinking this year's QB list is pretty underwhelming? I don't really see anything in Goff or Wentz, which are the projected top of the line QBs this year. The only one I like is Hackenberg and Cook, and Cook I'm not so much on anymore since I figured out he wasn't team captain and there are more than one instances of him acting like a self centered douche.
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>>66953056
Sure they are underwhelming, but they tend to be underwhelming every year.We never know who is going to explode into a formidable QB.

Everyone who looks sees the flaws in the QBs, yet media pundits push them hard to hype the draft.

Even when there are big name QBs who do look to be immediate stars like Andrew Luck, he has had his own fair share of problems to deal with and hasnt broken out as great yet. Look what happened to RG3.

When there are QB needy teams, the top ranked QBs in the draft get hyped like crazy.
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>>66953056
as far as QB classes go:
2012>2015>2014>2016>2013
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Did I fix them?
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Can an American please explain this to me?
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>>66953350
He had already ran before then
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>>66952880
It irks me how much the media has played a part in Manziel's downfall. I'm not saying he hasn't done stupid shit (he's done plenty), but if he's seen anywhere that isn't rehab or a training facility, the assumption is that he's getting into trouble and every sportscaster has to analyze what this means for his future in football.

Seen at a friend's house? They're probably all smoking crack and setting the neighbor's cat on fire.

Seen at a Buffalo Wild Wings? He probably just finished doing body shots before raping one of the waitresses in a bathroom.

Seen at his home? He probably just ordered LSD off the internet and will end up fighting a police officer because he thinks he's come to take Manziel back to the 6th dimension where he'll stay imprisoned forever.
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>>66953500
my friend its only going to get worse with todays shitty media.

I blame the massive people who will to TMZ and Perezhilton
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>>66950929
>you will never get to scream at sketchy benny
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If >we trade down to the 8th pick, who's the safest to take?

Treadwell?
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>>66954685
Ronnie Stanley.
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>>66954685
This >>66954872
Treadwell is Braylon Edwards the 2nd
Elliot might be available if the Ravens don't take him.
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>>66955390
treadwell is a headcase?
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>>66954685
>Treadwell?

Im not sure how to tell you this.....
But Treadwell didnt make it back from his last trip to the grizzlies...
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American Presidents and their football positions

Andrew Jackson would be GOAT QB
Teddy Roosevelt would be GOAT RB
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>>66955459
William Taft as a Tackle
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>>66955638
>Not the GOAT NT
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>>66955653
He's could play both since it'd be too hard to get him off the field.
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>>66955459
Grover Cleveland and Zachary Taylor at Guard
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>>66955459
Trump would be goat OLB
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>>66955459
>Obama at WR, CB, and S
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>>66955759
"Build a wall? I AM THE WALL"
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>>66955459
Bernie Sanders as towel manager
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>>66955894
NFLPA representative
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>>66955894
Bernie is Marty from Not Another Teen Movie
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>>66955459
>andy j not on defense
waste of that ferociousness desu
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>>66956049
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>>66955459
I think Reagan could be an elite QB desu
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>>66955894
He is Marc Trestman
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post qb/wr broships
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Police I'll gib you Mauer for Pooholes or Bunghole Park
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Guuuuuuys the "eagles are trading up to #2 for Wentz" rumors are starting again... make it stop pls.
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>>66956292
>post shit team that haven't won shit in 40 years
OH WAIT, you already did
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>>66956838
It's pathetic how quick you're becoming the tripfag I hate the most, you're becoming tiki tier god damn
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>>66956838
holy shit are you on your period or something?
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>>66955459
FDR as DC
used to be a former player until crippled
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>>66950814
>Chargers
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>>66957524
Let us hope McCoy gets his shit together with Whiz back.
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>>66956838
lel obsessed?
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>>66956838
But the Giants are on their way to becoming Jets tier, you literally have no room to talk.
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>>66950814
>burrs
can't wait to beat the packers and lose to some shit team like the fucking 49ers again
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>>66955459
Truman would be a great OC imo
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>eagles actually trading up into the 2nd pick

kill me
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>>66957687
W E N T Z
Bradford to the Jets for their 2nd.
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>>66950814
>Panthers
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Is the Jags defense actually gonna be decent next year? They added Malik Jackson, Amukamara, and Gipson, and they're essentially guaranteed one of Bosa, Buckner, and Ramsey, but I can't help feeling like that's only good on paper
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ALMOST A WEEK UNTIL INSANITY
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>>66957830
They'll be around the 16th best.
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>>66957830
It's a Florida team, of course a good offseason will translate to a successful regular season
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>>66957830
i guess you could call it the dream team
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>>66957830
Good enough to lose 10 games by 3 points instead of 30

>>66957892
Also this
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>>66957978
Hot hand in a cooter.
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>>66957830
Is Dante Fowler coming back?

>muh sports science
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Yo fags I'm from the future
The Queens pick up that German wideout with their fifth.
Browns trade out of the 2nd
Jags miss the playoffs
Saints spend a 4th on that fucking kicker from FSU
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>>66957978
Dare I say the most magical OC in the league?

Thank You Based Cooter
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>>66958184
Yeah but I'm not sure how good he'll be compared to everyone else. ACL tears are huge and he still hasn't played a single NFL down.
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>>66958360
Who do the browns trade in to?

Who do they pick?
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>>66958555
#8
Elliot
Stan the man goes to the 49ers
Jags despite being "so much better on D" are ranked 18th overall.
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>>66958360
>Jags miss the playoffs
not that far into the future I see
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Is he the best left tackle in the league?
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>>66957549
I'm not too worried about the offense (because whiz is coming back), I'm hoping our defense gets their shit together. That run-def was so horrible and were prone to giving up way too many big plays
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>>66958583
Who does cleveland take at 32?

Also who wins the owl?
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>>66958614
Good thing they picked up Mebane and Perryman has been great thus far.

I'm hoping they go defense-heavy in the draft.
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>>66958619
D O C T S O N
(I thought Boyd would have been better in the 3rd round but Doctson has been solid)
I'm not the spoiling type, let's just put it at it's a team no one will expect.
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Bold Prediction
>Broncos acquire Kaep
>Broncos trade Kaep, the #31 pick, a second rounder and a future first for #2 from the Browns
>They draft Wentz
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>>66958652
But...isn't Doctson going in the first round to the Bengals/Vikes?
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>>66950979
he might go in the later rounds
he's too unrefined to be a starter anywhere
but he's physically gifted, so hopefully he can get the technical skill
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So I'm kind of new to NFL, but why do shit teams stay shit if they're given preferential treatment for the draft?
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>>66958652
Is Doctson better than Gordon his rookie year?

Also who wins DROTY and OROTY?
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He did nothing wrong.
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>>66958692
Can usually be attributed to a shitty front office
>revolving door of coaches and QBs
>bad scouting/drafting
>terribly overblown player contracts

sometimes its just a difficult division
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>>66958692
Nobody can guarantee players in the draft will be good.

For instance, Raiders with Jamarcus Russlel in 2007. Picked first overall, ended up being a gigantic bust.

Apart from that, coaching. Even great players don't do well under shit coaching.
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>>66958683
>Bengals/Vikes
No and No.
Bengals keep with the sort of drafting they've been doing these passed few years.
Vikings managed to pick up a really good piece for their defense though.
>>66958715
Similar yardage, lower average.
OROTY - Goff (despite not deserving it)
DROTY - Darron Lee with seven sacks and surprisingly a few forced fumbles.
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>>66958692
draft order doesn't make that big a difference, especially past the first round.
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>>66958764
>The Oakland Raiders had a chance to draft

>Calvin Johnson
>Adrian Peterson
>Darrelle Revis
>Joe Thomas
>Marshawn Lynch
>Greg Olsen
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>>66958692
Bad coaching/bad front office is hard to overcome with the best talent. You could give the Browns Aaron Rodgers, JJ Watt, and Antonio Brown, but they would still be shit.
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>>66958692
Shit teams usually have shit front offices, this tends to have them be bad teams for years until the owner makes a change. For some teams they just go from one bad front office to another so they don't improve or they improve just enough to not be at the bottom but not good enough to be at the top of the division.
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>>66958887
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>>66958757
None of the Lion faggots on here have been fans long enough to know anything about him
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>>66958766
How does Wentz do? How does Elliott do in Cleveland? Does RGKnee get injured?

How far do the Raiders make it?

Who goes 1 and 2 in the 2017 draft?

Give us a rundown of the 2016 draft.
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>>66948442
Who dey niggers
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>>66958635
>defense-heavy in the draft
my thoughts exactly

who do you prefer for #3 overall?
I like Ramsey, only to complete our secondary and then head for D-line later.

I'm just not too sold on buckner, seems like another kendall reyes, has all the physicals, but I question whether that can translate to being productive
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Who usually has the most accurate mock draft?
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>>66958942
Ramsey, all the way.

Buckner would be my fall-back pick if he's gone -- and I'm still not sold on him, but he seems the best of what'd be there at that spot.
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>>66958594
Indisputably the GOAT

And he's not even a ring chaser either
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>>66958932
He does fine in the little time he does play.
Elliot performs well, 1037yds, 9tds.
He misses three games but is okay overall
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Second round of the playoffs, close game at first but lose grasp as the game goes on.

Watson and Garrett are the top 2
Kaaya falls to thirteen
Fournette busts hard, HARD.
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>>66959059
>willingly being on the browns
id say chasing a ring is better than running as far away as possible
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>>66959114
i disagree

no one respects lebron for ring chasing and how no one respects players who get their rings on the pats other than brady and gronk.

loyalty is very admirable, especially for a bad team.
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>>66959174
LeBron would have been forced to rot on the Cavs
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Reminder that Zeke Elliott will bust harder than any top 15 non qb (unless Chicago takes Leonard Floyd)
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>>66959174
Lebron would be a complete joke if he stayed on the Cavs and retired with no rings.
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>>66959301
Only because he's a crybaby choker with no clutch
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>>66959301
i would still respect him more for it then being Wade's Bitch in Miami.
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>>66957830
They still have a shit coach, and bortles throws a lot of ints
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>>66958594
He's one of the best tackles in the history of football. I think he's very much on par with guys like Roaf, Munoz and Jones.

>>66959114
What's wrong with loyalty, honestly? He himself said that piggybacking a great team to a ring would feel like cheating to him and he'd either have one with the Browns or none at all.
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>>66959353
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Can someone explain to me why did the Titans hire that monumental faggot Mularkey as the HC? He was pure shit as an OC in Atlanta and pure shit as a HC in Jacksonville too, I just legitimately don't understand what anyone sees in him.
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>>66951892
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>>66955459
Dubya as Tony Romo desu
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>>66959499
rings don't mean anything if you had to team up with other superstars to get them
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>>66958993
me

1. Rams- Jared Goff QB
2. Eagles (trade)- Carson Wentz QB
3. Bucs (trade)- Joey Bosa DE
4. Cowboys- Jalen Ramsey S
5. Jags- Laremy Tunsil OT
6. Niners (trade)- Paxton Lynch QB
7. Ravens (trade)- Zeke Elliott RB
8. Browns (trade)- Emmanuel Ogbah OLB
9. Chargers (trade)- Myles Jack LB
10. Giants- Vernon Hargreaves III CB
11. Bears- Sheldon Rankins DE
12. Saints- A'shawn Robinson DT
13. Dolphins- Germain Ifedi OG
14. Lions (trade)- Ronnie Stanley OT
15. Titans- Jack Conklin OT
16. Raiders (trade)- William Jackson III CB
17. Falcons- Shaq Lawson DE
18. Colts- Derrick Henry RB
19. Bills- Jason Spriggs OT
20. Jets- Connor Cook QB
21. Redskins- Laquon Treadwell WR
22. Texans- Ryan Kelly C
23. Vikings- Josh Doctson WR
24. Bengals- Will Fuller WR
25. Steelers- Mack Alexander CB
26. Seahawks- Javon Hargraves DT
27. Packers- Andrew Billings DT
28. Chiefs- Jihad Ward DE
29. Titans (trade)- Karl Joseph S
30. Panthers- Eli Apple CB
31. Broncos- Hunter Henry TE
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>>66959907
If Rams pick Goff there's no way in fucking hell the Browns don't pick Wentz.
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>>66959954
Hue apparently likes Goff and the Eagles are really high on Wentz.
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>>66959989
Browns started spreading rumors that they want Goff only AFTER the Rams traded up, to make it look like Goff was their guy all along and not a 2nd option. Hue wants Wentz, trust me.
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>>66956869
>>66956974
>>66957564
Literally can't handle the bantz
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>>66960077
>Defending a trip
Beta af
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>>66959954
>>66959989

Wentz sucks. Hue knows football and he knows Goff is good. Howie knows jewstuff and value and Wentz is coveted

>Mayock listed "Midwestern values" as a big reason why Wentz was the top guy

You're jew is getting jewd buy Wentz's agent.

The guy takes forever to throw the ball when he does decide to throw, and needs a huge, clean pocket for that big stride. He's not Flacco who can get dragons off from any body position
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>>66960043
I'm not sure the Browns are convinced, 2bh.
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>>66960120
He is actually very similar to Flacco. Goff is another Brady Quinn.
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>>66959907
>drafting O-linemen in the first round unless they're going to be GOAT and the team has few other needs
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>>66960256
Left tackle is one of the Big 4 value positions in the league. Only a handful of guys each year come into the league that can actually play at above replacement level. And good luck with your team if you don't have one.

Every year teams draft offensive linemen, especially tackles abouve where meme wbsites have them "projected" and every year pleb fans bitch about it because they can't play as the new rookie toy on Madden
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>>66959907

1. Carson Wentz, QB, Rams
2. Jared Goff, QB, Browns
3. Laremy Tunsil, OT, Chargers
4. Jalen Ramsey, DB, Cowboys
5. Myles Jack, LB, Jaguars
6. Joey Bosa, DE, Ravens
7. Deforest Buckner, DE, 49ers
8. Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Eagles
9. Noah Spence, DE, Buccaneers
10. Ronnie Stanley, OT, Giants
11. Vernon Hargreaves, DB, Bears
12. Sheldon Rankins, DT, Saints
13. Mackensie Alexander, DB, Dolphins
14. Robert Nkemdiche, DT, Raiders
15. Laquon Treadwell, WR, Titans
16. Jack Conklin, OT, Lions
17. Leonard Floyd, LB, Falcons
18. Taylor Decker, OT, Colts
19. Darron Lee, LB, Bills
20. A'Shawn Robinson, DT, Jets
21. Jarran Reed, DT, Redskins
22. William Jackson III, DB, Texans
23. Josh Doctson, WR, Vikings
24. Michael Thomas, WR, Bengals
25. Eli Apple, DB, Steelers
26. Will Fuller, WR, Seahawks
27. Reggie Ragland, LB, Packers
28. Shaq Lawson, DE, Chiefs
29. Emmanuel Ogbah, DE, Cardinals
30. Corey Coleman, WR, Panthers
31. Christian Hackenberg, QB, Broncos
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>>66960524
I pray the trainwreck that is the Eagles don't draft muh boy Zeke.
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>>66960524
Hold up. You must be mistaken, where is the New England Patriots first round pick?
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>>66960601
cringe
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>>66960601
The Browns have it.
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>>66960579
why we'll take real good care of him i promise
>>66960670
i agree
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>taking a QB

nah nigga, they getting picks and building a team.
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>>66960466
>>66960466
>>66960466
>>66960466
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>>66960524
Noah Spence will be a 4th round or later pick
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>>66960790
>being this retarded
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>>66960707
looks like some high school kid practicing with his dad who is also the coach of the team
>>66960790
on talent alone he should go in the first
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>>66960707
>RG3 goes on IR by week 2

You know it's gonna happen.

t. Browns fan
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>>66960837
>>66960838
Isn't Noah Spence a crack head? No way he goes in the first
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>>66960579
lel they're going to give the browns the farm to draft goff or wentz
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>midwestern values
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>>66960884
Ron Jaworski called him a "Faith Based" guy when he was raving about him.

QB scouting is such bullshit sometimes. No wonder there are so many busts
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>>66960871
Not crack, molly.
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>>66960871
molly cuz rave scene
but he's been clean for a while now and went to a fucking nowhere school instead of partying at aOSU
plus he's so fucking talented as a pass rusher, if we needed one in the draft i'd want him the most
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>>66960914
I agree, they should draft guys who don't live spiritual lives like Johnny Manziel and Josh Freeman
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>>66951892
is Kubiak one of those people who never get old ?
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>>66960935
Extremes, bruh.
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>>66959907
not sure the Broncos are picking a TE
Green shows potential and Heuerman hasnt played
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>>66960920
>>66960930
I'm sorry but if you're a big enough shitbag to get kicked off an Urban Meyer coached team I'd take you immediately off my draft board
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>>66960935
You are making it sound like everyone is either maximum Christian like Tebow or a degenerate like Manziel.
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>>66960984
Yet you have no problem rooting for a team full of criminals.
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>>66960838
He wasn't even as good as Bosa when they were on the same team and Bosa was just a freshman. He's a huge liability in the run game, not even considering his many, many character flags.

People love overrating and "projecting" the meme underweight black pass rushers as being alot better than they actually are. I guess it's contrarianism too.

>"Nah fuck Bosa, the guy everyone has known is the best for 3 years, I need the NEW hotness"

If Joey Bosa's name was Jayron Bosa and he was skinnier and decided to stop playing awesome run defense he'd probably be the most coveted prospect in this draft .
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>I'd take you immediately off my draft board
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>>66961018
what even are you talking about
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>>66961016
Less criminals then the Broncos, Steelers, Bengals or Patriots... but keep on memeing
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>>66961018
i mean he's an average run defender, but he's far from a liability, he has tremendous burst and he's a really good tackler as well
he might go in like the second round just because of the off the field stuff but he's a legitimate top 15 talent in the draft
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>>66961147
Spence is this year's Randy Gregory. He's an undersized pass rusher with character concerns who won't make it in the NFL
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>>66960982
How's the ilb depth now that Trevathan is gone? I assume Barrett still spells Von and Ware
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>>66961018
Tbh I kind of agree, the criticism is sometimes completely retarded.

>I know he has great run defense, work ethic and pass rushing technique, but my GUT FEELING tells me he will be just average

I legit read an article like this somewhere.
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>>66961231
"no"
gregory was extremely talented but very raw as a player, and he was having off the field concerns up to the draft
spence is polished enough to start day 1 in the NFL and hasn't been in trouble in a couple years
he was getting triple teamed on a pretty regular basis in college and he still put up big stats, and his technique is evident if you watch him play
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>>66955459
Ford as center
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>biggest needs are safety d-line and center
>"The Chargers should get Tunsil or Jack at #3" -- draft "experts"
when will these memes die
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>>66961285
Wanna place a bet on it friendo?
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>>66961351
tbf the chargers have big holes pretty much everywhere
>>66961368
on what exactly
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>>66961277
Its because he's white. People only want white guys at QB, Oline, Middle Linebacker and now slot reciever.

Before the 2011 draft everyone said JJ Watt would bust hard
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>>66961395
I have literally never been wrong when it comes to judging pass rushers. Ever. Called highly touted prospects like Jarvis Jones, Vic Beasley, Dupree, Jammal Anderson, Gaines Adams, Clowney etc etc as busts...

If Spence isn't a bust I'll post a pic of me wearing a Dawkins jersey that I bought, you do the same in a Reed jersey if Spence is a hit.
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>If Spence isn't a bust I'll post a pic of me wearing a Dawkins jersey that I bought, you do the same in a Reed jersey if Spence is a hit.
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>>66961499
that's pretty cute but i don't have the disposable income to be dropping hundreds on jerseys for bets
if spence busts, i'll admit you were right, but i really don't think he's going to
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>>66961351
Jack is the BIGGEST MEME I've seen recently. I was about to buy in the hype and then actually went and watched his games and ended up being unimpressed.

>great coverage LB, but that's not enough to warrant a top 5 pick
>absolute shit as a pass rusher
>has trouble shedding blocks
>too undersized to be really relevant in NFL level run defense
>half of his hype is based on raw athleticism and the other half on when he played as a RB

I honestly don't understand if all these "experts" are retarded / paid off by agents or there's something arcane about him that I just can't see on tape.
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>>66961528
Pussy
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>>66961499
>If Spence isn't a bust I'll post a pic of me wearing a Dawkins jersey that I bought, you do the same in a Reed jersey if Spence is a hit

A grown man unironically made this bet on a tibetan throat singing website
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>>66961531
I agree everytime I watched Jack from 2014 I thought Eric Kendricks stood out as the better linebacker
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>>66961531
jaylon smith was a better talent but idk his injury seems really serious
>>66961554
lmao
what if the ravens draft spence?
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