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TB:Victor Hedman will sit out Tuesday's game
NYR:Ryan McDonagh (UBI) is out indefinitely
NYI:Isles' Gibson will get 1st NHL start Tuesday
WAS:Nicklas Backstrom (UBI) won't return Tuesday
OTT:Andrew Hammond starts Tuesday vs. Penguins
BUF:Ryan O'Reilly questionable for Tuesday night
VAN:G Ryan Miller sharp in 3-2 win vs Kings
LA:Tyler Toffoli scores 30th goal in loss
STL:Kyle Brodziak delivers two goals as Blues win
FLA:Rocco Grimaldi scores twice in Panthers' win
NYI:John Tavares grabs three points in Isles' win
NYR:Ryan McDonagh will be re-evaluated Tuesday


nhl.com
theahl.com
hocgeneral.com

https://youtu.be/Ug88HO2mg44
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best general in a while
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craps = literally a team of subhumans
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Wings for second round this year

>The dream
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4TH FOR PENG-WINS
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shinkaruk has 2 goals now
WHY CANT THIS FAGGOT DO ONE FUCKING THING RIGHT?
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real thread

>>66622744
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>>66622772
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so can someone explain how the ahl playoffs work?
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isles or rags on thursday? neither will likely want to play the pens, can they both lose somehow?
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>>66622794
>Literal Retard
yup
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>Gravel, {GRA-VELLE}

why
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11th for wings
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>>66622803
its like regular playoffs except NHL teams can abduct AHLers at will and totally torpedo their chances
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>kongs
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how many of you actually played hockey growing up?
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>>66622823
Isles are 3-0 in the season series.
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>>66622823
Isles obviously. Rags are terrible at playing the Islanders.
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>>66622847
no i mean the seeding, like the team in first in the west has fewer points that half the teams below them, what's up with that
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>>66622867
>>66622863

both true. isles do tend to show up more to those games, rags tend to look soulless under AV
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Which nhl superstar has the smelliest farts?
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>>66622895
Yeah but as an Isles fan, id rather the Rags play the Pens. Isles and Pens makes some good games but the Pens are good against the Isles.
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who /hypedforplayoffs/ here?
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>>66622912
i'm also an isles fan and i agree. normally i wouldn't really mind playing the pens but they are white hot right now. thankfully we are getting hamonic back.
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kongsflams going to o o o o vertime
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>>66622873
dunno exactly, i think it's something retarded like points percentage.
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1.Pittsburgh
2.Rangers
3.Washington
4.Tampa bay
5.Carolina
6.Boston
7. Toronto
8. Buffalo

1.Detroit
2.Nashville
3.Chicago
4.Vancouver
5.Calgary
6.Sanjose
7.Anahiem
8.Kings

Thoughts?
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>>66623028
0/10
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Who /nonplayofffan/ here?

Hoping the sharks make a run because if they win then there will be some great memes and if they lose then there will be some great memes
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>>66623028
Shit or b8 can't tell
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>>66623048
>0/10
>he responds

dummy
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Wew kings won without trying
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>flim flams
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>>66623097
i enjoy cheering for the oilers to blow it. god i hope chiarelli fucks it up this summer somehow.
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>>66623124
>The city of Calgary
At least the ducks can still beat the jets
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>>66623097
Hoping for the lightning for pretty much the same reason.

Also >muh sunbelt broship
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>>66623097
just cheering for kongs to lose in first round so canes get a better pick
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>>66623165
>broship
go the fuck away apehoop
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>>66623154
>pokememes

fuck yeah brah

also who /completelyfucked/ here
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>>66623183
I'm with you bro, fuck the kongs
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>>66623211
If you stick around I'll make your zap dos better...might take me about an hour or so.
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>>66623211
>>66623244
Put the kitties logo on the other wing and give him a pub sub in each talon.
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>>66623264
Like this.
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I just had a wonderful dream
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>>66623244
>about an hour or so

jesus m8. my #1 rule for making pokememes is to never waste more than 5 minutes on any single one.
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>>66623287
sabres don't get scyther u can have torros
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gotta give a big thanks to Carolina for beating the Broons tonight.
Much Love,
Wongs fan
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Is it >rags time yet
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>>66623287
>Not making quality goods
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>>66623264
>>66623284
>its a horse fucker helping a sandwich fag
no wonder everyone hates these faggots
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>>66623308
torros is a dallas stars fan

>>66623313
fuck you
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>>66623284
Kill yourself
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>>66623314
>mad
>at food and cartoons
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How does Panarin even count as a rookie
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Was this beautiful man the best non obvious draft choice of the last draft?
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>>66623353
>supporting a horsefucker
kill yourself autist
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Dubs and Don Cherry has an aneurysm at the start of the playoffs and dies.
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We were raised
With the stick
And a pair of blades
On the ice we cut our teeth
We took our knocks
In the penalty box
Our mother was the referee

This sport was here
Before we came
It will be here when we're gone
The game's in our blood
And our blood's in the game
Lay us down under
A frozen pond

We will fight to the end
We will stand and defend
Our flag flying high and free
We were born the child
Of the strong and Wild
In the State, the State of Hockey

A big blue line runs around our state
A line that can't be crossed
The day they try to take this game
Is the day the gloves come off

We will fight to the end
We will stand and defend
Our flag flying high and free
We were born the child
Of the strong and Wild
In the State, the State of Hockey.
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can this be a pokememe?
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>lightning taking a giant dump on the ice and people still get mad at them
This team is meme magic
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>>66623462
are the lightning the best non-traditional market?

>>66623385
he only shows up during the playoffs
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>da city of baawston
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>Bombston Ruins
Feels good to be a canes fan
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>>66623484
That would be sj. Hockey has grown faster there than any other non-traditional market
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It's our turn this year hawks bros. No cup stealies.
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>>66622873
Basically, since the Pacific division now exists, and they play fewer games due to travel costs, everyone is based of point%

From the website:
"The top four teams in each of the AHL’s four divisions as ranked by points percentage (points earned divided by points available) will qualify for the 2016 Calder Cup Playoffs, with one possibility for a “crossover” in each conference: if the fifth-place team in the Atlantic or Central Division finishes with a better points percentage than the fourth-place team in the North or Pacific Division, it would compete in the other division’s bracket (see diagram at right).

Home-ice advantage in all series will be grantede to the team with the higher points percentage.

The division semifinals will be best-of-five series. All other series are in a best-of-seven format. "
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>>66622927
>ywn play for the Mongolian national team
Fuck this gay earth
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>>66623484
Best at what? Actually being a good team? Memes? Bootyblasting traditional markets?
>>66623486
Ty based canes
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>>66623576
A guy I play with at pick-up used to play for a pro team in china
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>>66622823
rags fan here. i want to be wc1 going into playoffs. i think the atlantic division is way easier, espeically if blots dont have stamkos and stralman
so isles plox
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>>66623544
"no"
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>I wish Marc was back
>Evgeni yelled at me yesterday
>Why does Phil always want burger King?
>Tfw can't post on /sp/ because of the game tonight
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>>66623566
Stealie wheelie incoming. Swiggity swooty kings coming fo dat booty
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>>66623663
>8 rinks (that I know of) in the bay area
>largest ice hockey facility west of the Mississippi
>largest adult ice hockey league in the US, with divisions from rookie all the way up to former nhlers
>just hosted the usa hockey junior national championships

Pretty good for somewhere that has seen exactly 0 snow since the last ice age.
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>>66623737
nobody gives a fuck about hockey in cali. thats just because cali has the most money of any state
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>>66623756
If nobody cares then how is it the largest adult league in the country?
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Who the fuck is Patrick Maroon and why is he first line in Edmonton
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>>66623770
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kek wheeler eats shit
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>>66623803
It's a big state, don't act like people are driving 7 hours from LA to play.

The bay area is just 7 million, which would be the 15th largest state.
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>>66623770
>he likes hipsters

GET OUT OF MY SPORT
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>>66623800
He was a duck
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Is it true Publix subs give you blood clots?
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>Ducks
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>>66623154
Fug fucking OTL
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Erik Erlendsson Verified account
@erlendssonTBO

And now #TBLightning officially announce both Hedman and Callahan out tonight


>CLOTS

CUBANS BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
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>>66623800
He was a knight
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>>66623866
yes, just ask Stamkos.
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>analslime cucks
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what do you guys think the new red wings stadium going to be called?

I want to buy the url and sell it to mike illitch for like $50,000
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>>66623848
not bad. saved.
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>>66623154

I don't think so tim
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>>66623154
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>>66623901
LEL

Kings can win out for the division now
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>>66623916
the detroilet
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>>66623916
> mfw its actually this
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>>66623945
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>>66623942
Still a point behind Anaheim and Anaheim has one more game then them.
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>>66623970
Not him but I think they still play each other once so if kongs win that then they move ahead
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>>66623970

No, they are tied in points now (99). Thursday night's game should be a good one.
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>>66623917
Did it on my phone too
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>>66623848
>fuk_ponek
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>>66623917
Don't have to color him for the flyers noice.
>>66623994
Agreed ducks vs kings games are always GOAT
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>>66623994
Anaheim just has the tiebreaker
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>>66624033

Anaheim has the game in hand tiebreaker but the >kongs have a pretty big ROW advantage (45 to 41)
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>>66624000
Whut?
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Is there more likeable team than kitties?
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>wake up
>Boston found a way to lose against Carolina
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>>66624415
I don't like them at all
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>>66624483
https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/car-vs-det/2015/10/16/2015020060#game=2015020060,game_state=final

https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/car-vs-det/2015/10/27/2015020127#game=2015020127,game_state=final

and this was before canes became elite in december
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>Cucks
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>>66624623
>canes
>elite
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>>66624415
barkovs head shape wew
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>>66624623
Meh, Detroit always shits the bed against shit teams
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X23v5_K7cXk
when does it end f@m
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>>66624947
When you go back to watching the bucs instead desu
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>>66624985
>instead
>implying I dont suffer though the entirety of tampas shit show major league teams
how about them gays
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>>66624778
literally every team says this and it especially isn't true for detroit

record vs playoff teams 16-16-5
record vs non-playoff teams 24-12-6

canes being the only non-playoff team detroit has a less than .500 record against
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>>66625032
do you ever fucking go away?
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>>66622668
I'll post whatever memes I want friend.

sup /hoc/ its been a while how are you pups doing
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>>66625081
no
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>>66625097
>clots are so underage he doesn't get the OP
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>>66625097
suffering
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>>66625104
fair enough.
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>>66625081
He's here all day long
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>>66625133
dont worry ill probably take a day or two off when the bolts get btfo in the first round. then ill bandwagon the ducks and be back
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>>66625053
>you actually looked that up
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>>66625156
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsL4fTJ_9lE
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>>66625156
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>>66625259
delet this
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>>66625327
no u
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Will oil oil oil get to ruin another top prospect's career by winning the lottery again?
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>Nylander had to shut his twitter account down because some people were offended by his name (@snizzbone)

>Canada
>not New Sweden
lel
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>>66625343
see
>>66625264
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Poopinjarvi
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>>66625405
is he actually autistic? i always just thought this was a meme.
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>>66625417
From all the material I have seen, I would describe more like simple minded. He is a genuinely nice guy but you can tell he hasn't been to school since elementary.
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>>66625417
I thought all Fins were atustic?
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Give it to me straight /hoc/, what are the realistic chances for the New York Rangers this year?
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>>66625504
Im no expert but my calculations say 100% chance of no cup for lundpads
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Red Wings pokememe pls?
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Florida are a shitty meme team.
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>mfw this webm might be relevant again this year
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>>66625504
Losing to Pitt 4-1 with no survivors.
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>>66625504

>rags
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>>66625559

Not with MAF dead they won't.
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>>66625526
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tbf guys
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>>66625575
backup is better than maf desu senpaitachi
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>>66625630

Flower put up a .921 this season even with a mid-season coaching change, shifting from a shit coach, and going to a brand new season.

That's pretty good desu.
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>his team isnt in the playoffs
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>>66625661
Smuk put your fucking name on and meme with us.
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Hope you like my meme :)
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Tomorrow, we celebrate.
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>>66625680

Saturday is the true holiday desu
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>>66625689
>tfw I have a post in all three
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>>66625705

>tfw working in the evenings this year during the playoffs

Gonna miss the shitpoosting desu
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>>66625661
s-stop
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>>66625680
Funny how the Pens literally came back from a 3-0 defecit tonight against the Snes
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>>66625719
>Shane Doan will literally never win a cup
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>>66625714
The nice thing for me is that I work at a hotel. So even when I work evenings I can put the lobby TVs on hockey. Really helps make the shifts pass.
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>>66625719
here friend, feel better.
>>66625666
nice satan trips but smuk_anok is gone forever, he only lives on in our hearts and our memes
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>>66625743
PUT YOUR FUCKING NAME ON REEEE
I HATE THIS PLACE NOW JUST COME BACK
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>>66625689
who has the >rags image?
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>>66625803

This one? I have tons of >rags images lel.
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>>66625807
>44041
yeah I think that's it. good times those were.
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>>66625817

It's always a good time when it's >rags time.
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>>66625820
I don't always shitpost but when I do it's >rags
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>>66625727
He'll lift the cup as a yotes manager / coach and it will be the most glorious day of my life
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>>66625798
This. We can get by the whole horsefucker thing if you keep producing top notch memes. We need you for playoffs smuk
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>rags
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>rags
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>>66625850
>>66625856
>rags get swept in 6 in the first round
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>>66625858
BOUNCE THAT ASS UP AND DOWN THE ICE
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Shit team
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shit fans
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>>66625864
I really could I'm not even memeing
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go kings go
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Holy shit. Forsberg's goal was fucking sick.
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>>66625346
what does snizzbone even mean

jesus christ im fucking tired of people getting offended
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>>66625526
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>>66625417
No. He's just thick as shit.

He probably barely passed elementary school and hasn't been doing anything besides hockey ever since.
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>>66626118

Kek. Is he really that dumb?
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>tfw the New York Rangers will win the Stanley Cup
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>>66626278
>Tales from an alternate universe
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>>66626215
Kid has spent twice as much time on ice than in school
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>>66626278
>rags
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>>66626215
For a young guy in Finland the inability to speak enough English to get through a basic hockey related interview without an interpreter is all I need to know.

Even the least educated bydlos/hicks/rednecks know how to speak English here.
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>>66626313
I can't wait for him to be drafted. Every interview he has is going to be meme-worthy.

Please don't let him go to Canada, Finland.
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RTS Sport Verified account
@RTSsport

Hockey: le Suédois Marcus Paulsson (32 ans) et le Canadien Devin Setoguchi (29 ans) quittent Davos #RTSsport


LEL
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>mfw I may or may not have just killed Steven Stamkos (or someone who looks similar to Steven Stamkos)
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>>66626407
elaborate
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pulju and aho in the NHL next season, cant wait
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>>66626407
Instructions from the team doctor clearly state he is only to receive one pub sub per treatment session. Any more could be a clotastrophe.
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>>66626444
Laine better
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Aho Calder
Pulju Art Ross
Laine rocket richard
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>yfw there's an NHL player posting in this thread right now
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>>66626470
Don't use Greek content please
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>>66626034
snizz is apparently a slang word for vagina. Wouldn't surprise me if he didn't even know that himself.
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>>66626025
Marek Malik 2.0

>>66626370
>frogspeak
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>you weren't born in the USA in the late 80's to a white upper middle class family to spend your childhood in the true golden age of the greatest country on earth before tumblr and sjws fucked up everything
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>>66626662

Felt good

Now all I feel is hatred
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the Kings are winning the cup and division desu senpai
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Hyvää yötä Suomi
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>>66626811
Kauniita unia :3
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>>66626811
Voi vittu
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my 30 days ban is over now lads
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>>66626858
What did you do?
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>>66626867
i critisised mods for giving too many unnecessary bans for people
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>>66626811
good night american man
sleep tight big boy
because i am going to go
and bang

poem made by me


also barkov elite
i mean 10 seconds holy sshit
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best duo in hockey
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>>66626959
is it too early to meme post?
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>>66626968
never too early never too late
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Hat tricks:
Finland: 2
Sweden: 7
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>>66626977
big deal

atleast the most elite center is finnish

you know who im talking about
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>>66626916
>Zibanejad hat trick in 2:38 > Barkov's 10 second goal
>Forsbergs two hat tricks in three games > Barkov's 10 second goal

Barkov = bust
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>>66625264
2bh the Oilers would be a good fit for Pullyouyarvi, he seems like an Oilers type of guy, ready to have his career ruined.

Laine would fit in Toronto, and Mathews in Columbus.
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JUST
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>>66626991
>Zibanejad
>Swedish
He's either Finnish or Iranian fuckwit.
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>>66627009
Say that to his passport.

Also
>Zibanejad is more finnish than Barkov
Top flippin' lel!
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>>66627021
Barkov is honorary finn
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>>66627027
>having to adopt players from Russia so that you have something to meme on /hoc/ about
lel
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>>66627021
>Passport determines true nationality
It determines where you can live and what government is responsible for you, that is all.

Is Zibanejad Swedish purely because he has lived in Sweden and has had the government provide for him?

He has those Finnish genes that let him excel, if he was Swedish he would be a nobody.
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>>66627060
>Zibanejad would have been #4 in finnish points if his passport would have said Finland
>more points than Busty Granlund
Top lel

Passport/citizenship determines nationality. You might not like it, but it does.
Besides, he grew up here.

There are no objective factors that determine what it takes to be "swedish", "finnish", "australian". So there is no point in even having that discussion.

>He has those Finnish genes that let him excel, if he was Swedish he would be a nobody.
>would have been #4 in the finnish points table
>is #13 in the swedish points table
His finnish genes are holding him back m8
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>>66626662
I miss the 90s so much.

Listened to the new Weezer album and it hit me pretty good.
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>tfw no kings gf to playfully gloat in front of me when her team beats mine
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>>66622860

Still do. Never played in a junior program but it's an awesome sport with mates nevertheless
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>>66623803

>over 7 times the amount of people than there are people in Finland

Though they may have the same amount or less white people than we do. What a memestate for hockey
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>>66627292
>california
>5 million white people
ayyy lmao
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>>66627292
>finland
>white people
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>>66627429
whitest in the world. Feels good lad.
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>>66627429
racist
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>Top scorers with 10 or less PIM

Since ROR is a drunkard who crashed into a Tim Hortons, Barkov should win the Lady Byng in my humble and objective opinion
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Strombone
@strombone1
Anytime you add a 68 to a 1 the total will always amount to good times...... #JagrBomb
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>>66627497
Barkov should ein hart to be honest
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>tfw the team you follow won their last cup the year before you were born
>tfw they'll win their next cup the year after you die
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>>66627546
Ironically the best thing for Edmonton would be to fall to 5th or 6th pick so they're forced to draft juolevi or chychrun. If they have the top 4 or even 5 pick they will waste it an another forward.
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>flyers can clinch a playoff spot with 3 points from detoilet and the laffs
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>>66627612
Detroit vs Philly tonight will literally be a playoff game.
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canes gonna win the lottery

heard it here first
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>>66627630

Some bretty gud games coming up on Wednesday and Thursday

Detroit/Philadelphia
Detroit/Boston
Ducks/>kongs
Islanders/>rags
Blues/Hawks in a first round preview
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>>66627653
Would've been funny to see Detroit's streak ending right after Babcock left, but Boston finishing 17th twice in a row is probably even more hilarious

Fuck the broons, go flylels and wongs
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>>66627675
>Boston finishing 17th 2 years in a row
You're also forgetting they opted not to trade loui and will more than likely have him walk for absolutely nothing.

Tip top mother fucking kek.
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Wings or flyers tonight, /hoc/?
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>>66622668
>your face when you witness da Stars win da cup
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>>66627546
> the team you follow missed the playoffs the year before you were born and have not missed then since
> also 4 cups
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>>66627675
lel boston is literally new calgary in iginla,kipper era. top fucking kek.
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>>66627690
le absolute madman strikes again
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Here is what the playoff matchups would look like right now if we had the old system. I'm using ROW for the first tiebreaker instead of games in hand. Division champs are automatically the top two seeds since that is how it was before.

East
(1) Caps vs (8) Flyers
(2) Panthers vs (7) Wings
(3) Pens vs (6) Bolts
(4) >rags vs (5) Islanders

West
(1) Dallas vs (8) Minnesota
(2) >kongs vs (7) Preds
(3) Blues vs (6) Sharks
(4) Hawks vs (5) Anaheim
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rip rexall place
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>>66627735
>tfw TSN will NEVER EVER own the national broadcast rights again

This is truly the last great Oilers game broadcasted on TSN.
https://youtu.be/zghgaqM19b8
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>>66627802
>tfw Oilers fans will never yak that loudly for the guy again

sad.
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>>66627731
ayyy wild hasn't give a shit when they won colorado and clinched the playoffs and now they will get a gift in the playoffs. AYYYYYYYYYY
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>>66627777
Joe is the best hockey player until the game actually matters.
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>>66627777
Joe is one of the guys who deserves a cup but will never get one
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>>66627802
>>66627816
I remember that night so vividly. One of the best endings to a game I've ever seen. I hope Yak finds some success with his new team, he deserved better than what he got with the Oilers.
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>Slava Malamud @SlavaMalamud 2h

>AllHockey.ru reports that the entire Russian U18 national hockey team may skip the Worlds due to positive Meldonium tests.
>In lieu of the U18 team (whose profile has been removed from Russian Hockey Federation web site), the 1999 birth year squad may go
>The U18 coach has been fired, the roster is confirmed to be radically changed. This is the first Meldonium scandal in Russian hockey.
>The ENTIRE Russian U18 roster is replaced with younger players one day before leaving for the Worlds. Biggest mass doping scandal in hockey.
>U18 national coach has confirmed he is fired, his entire team is replaced with U17s. No further comments, but insiders say it's Meldonium.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL72EuBQMa4
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>>66627939
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
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>>66627844
TOP SHORK
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>>66627802
>not basically eliminating the kings
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>>66627802
Yakupov deserves nothing but the best. I hope he finds success wherever he may be.
>>66627844
That was the Sharks year. That team was so stacked. Thornton, Marleau, Cheechoo, Koralyuk, Dimmitrakos, Ekman, Goc, Ernhoff & McLaren with the tinted window. Crazy to think 10 years later Thornton is still a dominant force. If they make it out of the 1st round I would bet on a WCF berth. The current roster looks playoff built.
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>>66627981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ge1NcMt4RE
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>Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie 10m10 minutes ago

>Coming up today on tsn.ca: @TSNHockey end-of-season NHL coaches poll asking them to choose NHL Coach of the Year. 27 ballots submitted.

>Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie 4m4 minutes ago

>One coach dominated results tho it was a two-horse race for awhile. 3-2-1 point system; 10 coaches got votes but only 4 got 1st place votes.


who is the Coach of the Year?
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>>66627994
q
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>>66627994
babcock
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>>66627994
Sully
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>>66627994
Pretty sure itll either be Ruff or Trotz. Coach of the year award is a meme trophy anyways.
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>>66627994
gallant or trotz
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>>66627981
>>66627992
The Yakupov goal was better because the Oilers were actually holding a Playoff spot and that game put them 7 points ahead of L.A.

Ralph Kruger requested defensive help at the deadline and instead got a 4th line plug from his GM. Rather than reward a step forward, that off-season he got fired over Skype by Craig MacTavish in favour of Dallas Eakins.

The players they pick aren't busts. The management was JUST absolutely shit and subsequently the players suffered from it.
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>>66628065
That sounds probable, they're middling teams with the 2nd and 3rd highest PDO
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>>66627992
>this fucking game
>pongs blowing a 3-0 lead against meme: the team
>islels thought they clinched the playoffs, then concede a super soft goal against the flyers in the last minute

this was the meme night of the decade
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>>66627939
Meldonium sounds like a waste product of nuclear fission.
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>>66627994
BILPETO
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Anyone here /bronchitis/
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>>66628104
>>66627992
>1st line has 3 wingers, no centre
>4th line all AHL callups
>Blueline looks like this:
Klefbom - Schultz
Marincin - Davidson
Aulie - Musil
>4th string goaltender in net
>Still eliminate Kongs
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>>66628192
>aulie
>marincin
Its quite comical how often oilers and leafs trade scraps to one another.
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>>66628205
It's almost like finding a couch in a landfill and shipping it over the other landfill in town
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So is it official that the pens are gonna win the Stan-lee bowloff?
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>>66628232
lol who is this guy, looks familiar?
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>>66628154
I got pneumonia a few weeks ago. All healed, but it'll take 6-8 weeks to get rid of the cough
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>>66628232
The marincin trade was a head scratcher though. Hes a +1 on the worst team in the nhl and a -4 lastyear with the oilers. He's obviously not going to be winning a norris but he still seems like a solid 3rd or even a 2nd pairing defenseman.
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>>66628239
this feels like 2009 all over again.
I wouldn't hold my breath though
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>>66628254

Fuck.
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If Datsyuk stays healthy, he can hit 1000 points. He hasn't played a full season in like 5 years though
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yfw da broons miss the playoffs
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>nwhl will raise salaries from 1$15k to 15.8k
LREEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWL
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>>66628398
>1$15k
what
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>>66628255
No questions he's steady defensively but doesn't his lack of physicality frustrate you? The guy is 6'5 I wish he would have asserted himself more.
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>>66628382
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>>66628453
He's European. Most euros aren't physical at all. But yeah he should definitely use his size. He would benefit from a little weight too. He's 200 lbs at 6'4. If he gained 15 to 20 he would be much better off.
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>>66628382
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>>66628453
I kind of hated him for most of the season but he's a good possession player and seems to compliment Rielly well.
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>The city of Bombston
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lotta epic memes in this thread so far keep it up guys
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If any of you Pongs fans knew anything about the history of hockey, you'd realize the Pongs are barreling towards a first round exit.

>hottest month was in march
>blowing out other teams
>backup goaltender on fire

Sounds like last season's Senators to me.

With 2013 as an outlier season -- and let's be real, with only 48 games played it was a meme season -- no Stan Lee cup winning team in the past six seasons has done a fantastic job towards the end of the season. The Kongs only won 5 games in their last 10 in 2014 and 2012. The 2015 Blackhawks lost their final four games.

inb4 >b-b-buts
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>>66628767
I think it helps that the Pongs have elite special teams and possession stats and that McDonaugh is out with a concussion.
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>>66628816
The Rags are a complete wildcard. Their players aren't even that good but they still manage to squeak by. Pongs will probably get refpucked out of the first round by some jew refs
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>3 shutouts in 8 starts
Is Reimer elite?
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>>66628767
>pongs fans
>knowing hockey
pick one
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>>66628767
let's look at the year the penguins won the cup
>fire coach in midseason
>bring up AHL coach and everything changes
>make a couple roster changes that improve team chemistry
>hot as fuck in march starting at 8th seed then going 10-3
>win stan lee's cup

remind me again what's different this year? are you even old enough to try to talk to me about history
>>
is it finally >our year?
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>>66628816
pongs have elite special teams?

not really
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>>66628864
If all goes to plan the pongs get swept so the leafs get a better draft pick.
>>
There was another >finnish goaltending debut last night. Christoper gibson, who the fuck is he? Beat Holtby at least.
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>>66628894
>t-this year is supposed to b-be like this other meme run r-r-right?
playoff pongs arent even top-5 in the east
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>>66628951
"finnish"
>>
>tfw no nhl soundtracks anymore
fuck you EA you fucking jews
>>
I recently got back on antidepressants. I hadn't been on them since 2012. I feel like it's directly correlated to the fact that the Habs fucking suck cock.
>>
Take your autism meds, pekka
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>>66628951
that was a specialized type of finnish goaltending

he's a former laffer, involved in the grabner trade
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>>66628951
>nigger
>name christopher gibson
>finnish
Is it like the finnish basketball team which is just american niggers who married a finn and somehow get to play for the team?
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>>66628988
there's only one black guy on the finnish basketball team and he isn't even opener material.
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>>66628970
Soundtracks haven't been good since that GOAT NHL 10 soundtrack
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>>66628985
you're not alone
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>>66628953
>look at history this never happens pens gonna lose
>uh it happened 7 years ago
hurr stop acting like history matters
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Join me binland

>>66629019
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>>66628894
So where are MAF and Malkin fitting into this equation? Everyone knows that when they finally come back it's going to fuck everything up
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>>66629118
>tfw remembering malkin in 2009 ECF against Carolina
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>>66629118
>fleury's been out 3 games so the team chemistry will be shit when he comes back
youre not going to go back to the history argument are you?
>getting malkin back makes a team worse
ok man you got me theyre obviously shit with malkin
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>>66629136
You're obviously a retard. Goalies have little to do with line chemistry. Malkin is a good player, but trying to reintegrate him when the lines are exhibiting great chemistry is going to fuck some things up.
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>>66629136
>breaking up the hottest line in the NHL Hagelin - Bonino - Bill
geez, i wonder how this could be a problem
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>>66629136
Fleury has been shit the past few years in the playoffs. I'm not sure why you have so much confidence in him now especially against Lundqvist.
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>>66629170
>You're obviously a retard
except you just said fleury coming back will fuck everything up and now youre saying it doesn't mean anything? please try to make some sense

>>66629177
and I've been arguing to put him in Kunitz spot on the first line.

>>66629183
did you not watch last year? his voodoo head doctor has helped
>>
WHOS LOSING TONIGHT?
CRYERS OR WONGS
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>>66629183
He's been better the last 2 years.
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>>66629136
The history argument hasn't helped or hurt your points because it has demonstrated both success and failure when a team gets hot in March. But what history suggests is that late regular season records are inaccurate predictors of the playoffs outcome. You cannot with certainty say your team is going to win or lose the Stan Lee cup just because of their late-season performances.
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>>66629223
Do you understand the concept of speculation? Are you autistic?
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>>66629223
>You cannot with certainty say your team is
should've stopped there. if you think everyone saying a team is going to win the cup is 100% certain I don't know what to tell you other than to get some help.
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>>66629244
you mean the concept of shitposting
>>
So lads, what will be the most satisfying elimination day this year? >RAGS EXCLUDED
For me:
>pongs
>kongs
>blots
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>>66629246
You don't have to be 100% certain to have any certainty at all

>>66629244
Pongs fans are clearly doing more than speculating here.
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>>66629255
I will not be accepting arguments from slavs. Especially anal pained isles fan slavs
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>every comment I have made on /r/hockey has been downvoted to shit
Fucking redditors, I made a comment saying how the Calder trophy is to be given to the most proficient player, and McDavid is by far the most proficient, yet all the Blackhawks fags come out and downvote me saying he can't win because he missed half the season.

They don't understand proficiency is how skilled they are, not how many points they put up and whether they win or not.
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>>66629289
*not is irrelevant
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>>66629260
kongs are always good
this year? probably stars or hawks
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>>66629269
show me where I any speculating at all? this started with me saying this fag >>66628767 is stupid for trying to say muh history says and I proved him wrong. then it got to damn the pens are going to suck when their good players come back from injury. very strange arguments but I don't see anywhere that I've done what youre saying
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>>66629285
lelel, sorry I hurt your feels friend

nevermind me go back to shitposting then
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>>66629289
nobody cares. go back there and complain and then stay there.
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>>66629260
in order:
Wings
Stars
Lightning
Hawks
Flyers
Wild
Kings
Pens
Ducks
Preds
Isles
Caps
Sharks
Panthers
Blues
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>>66629320
Fuck off blackhawks fag.

Panarin is trash.
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>>66629289
I don't know how any discussion on that faggot site would be possible. The site is built in such a way that it fosters hugbox mentality and discourages differing opinions. Mcdavid is clearly the best rookie.
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>>66629310
I'm sorry your primitive brain can't look at things objectively.
>>
>>66629354
I'm sorry your superior brain is too retarded to separate when people are serious and when they're shitposting
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>>66629289
McDavid has a case just based on the fact that McDavid was 12 when Panarin first started playing Pro-Hockey. Imagine Taylor Hall or Tyler Sequin going to Russia next season and winning the rookie of the year award. Not to mention he's 2nd in PPG% league wide. I wouldn't be mad if he lost though, Panarin is still eligible on a technicality and he is having one hell of a season.

If you sift through the memes you can honestly get better hockey discussion here. Reddit communities usually become hive-minded and HFboards is mired with delusional arm chair GM's. That's not to say this place doesn't have it's faults though. That one Bolts "fan" who doesn't even watch hockey and that 24/7 Canadian shitposter comes to mind.
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>>66627939
>Russia

lmao
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>>66629379
>>66629289
literally rebbit
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>>66629328
>shorks pongs and kongs that low
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>>66629260
shorks, craps, mild, and pongs
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>>66629424
>shorks

oh boy, months of tripfags whining about how depressed they are

how satisfying
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>>66629398
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>>66629260
your favourite team
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>>66629462
>and that 24/7 Canadian shitposter comes to mind.

did you just refer to yourself in your own post?
>>
>>66629260

1. Pens
2. Panthers
3. Everyone else
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>>66629489
>i-i-it's all one guy
Top deluded
>>
>>66629498
are you retarded? >>66629379
>and that 24/7 Canadian shitposter comes to mind.
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It's the last fucking game in a barn that saw the greatest hockey team ever assembled become the last true dynasty of the NHL. If these fucking cucks come into this game with the same effort they did against Calgary, I'm gonna firebomb the fucking office on Kingsway.
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>>66629512
Nice reddit post
>>
Anyway lads, let's talk about the Vezina trophy.

Who's going to win it?

>inb4 Holtby wins it cos >muh wins!!
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>>66629565
you have to go back
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>>66629565
go ask reddit
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Russian u 18 team replaced at last minute, doping scandal or something
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>>66629582
>>66629591
Answer me faggots.

Reddit will say Scrivens because of how much of a cuck he is.
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>>66629600
looks like you have your answer
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>>66629600
>scrivens

nhl record holder, sounds good to me
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>>66629614
Go fuck yourself.
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>>66629565
korpisalo
>>
Hope Sweet Lu wins the Vezina somehow 2beedesu
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>>66629565
Holtby will win
Should be Lundshit though. He's the only one who is actually playing on the >rags
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>>66629565
It's not just because wins. If you actually watch a caps game you'll see how many prime saves he makes because the defense is actually pitiful.
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>>66629735
do you also watch other teams' games to check if the other goalers make prime saves you fucking homer?

Holtby's high danger Sv% isn't that great, he doesn't deserve it at all
>>
Who ready for the Hawks to win the cup again?
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>Tuuka and Miikka have won the Vezina in the last ten years
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>>66629804
hell yee boiiiiii, question is who they gonna beat in da stley owl?
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>>66629820
Wings

Don't stop believing
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>>66629820
last year was so much easier to guess

the east is so fucking crippled and flawed it could be anyone
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>>66629763
You just get madder and madder. Is it because the isles have peaked as a first round exit?
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>>66629862
you're starting to project my assmad friend

have your superior brain figure out a simple stat first before you talk to me
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>>66629878
looks like I was right
At least you have a car in your arena
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>>66629908
it's not my job here to educate retards so if you can't understand simple hockey stats on your own, I can't help you, bye
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-CRnk6fH0c
>the shanty town of pittsburgh
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>>66629942
What are goal points and how are they earned

The top goal point scorers seem to be neck and neck this year

t. Florida
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>>66630022
goal points point to goals

you earn them by goaling points

it's too difficult to predict who outgoals who

hope that made it clear, t. don cherry
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>>66626691
>tfw my name is greg
>image mostly describes me
2spooky4me
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>>66630096
Hey greg, hows it hanging
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>>66630107
not that well binland. How are you?
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>>66630124
Harden the fuck up, Greg.
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>>66630124
im fantastic
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>>66629708
>Le big pads and complainer to the refs man
>winning the vezina
No
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>it's a broons barely miss the ploffs episode
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>>66629565
Quick
>>
Who /anxiousforploffs/?
I want them to hurry up and get here but I also don't want them to ever come
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it smells like shit in here all of a sudden
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>>66630211
Nice Kopi dubs
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>>66630219
Those are Koivu dubs my friend
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Would Greg be my friend?

t. Tom
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>>66630281
I'm going to come to grand rapids and rape you
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>>66630290
Do it, bud.
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>>66628951
>Christoper gibson
>Finnish

top fucking kek
>>
where are the swedes? did they see karlsson give up the puck in his own zone for the penguins game winning goal last night?
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>>66630237
Shut up you dumb cartoon bear
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>>66630404
>B-b-b-b-but 80!
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>>66630464
He'd have double that if they gave him points for giveaways.
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>>66630564
>Best D in the world
>Leads league in TOI
>Team has one of the highest GAA in the league
Hmmmm, something doesn't add up
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>>66630404
this is a breakout pass from a norris winning defenseman. he just forgot he was wearing red
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>>66630660
No bro you're totally wrong him being on the ice for a billion goals has nothing to do with him
It's his team!
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>>66630663
But his coach isn't using him well!

H-he has terrible D partners!

L-l-look at his TOI!
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>>66630281
No
t Greg
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>>66627994
It's here

http://www.tsn.ca/trotz-named-best-nhl-head-coach-by-peers-1.465765
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>>66630663
Not a fan of Karlsson at all, and not really trying to justify that play, but he was obviously playing the percentages in that situation. He must not have noticed all the forwards were overloading his side of the ice (they really shouldn't be doing that) and he assumed there would be someone over on the left side. Still a really bad decision without actually looking to see if someone is there. Should have cycled the puck back around to his d partner, or just flicked it out. He had a case of the 'Ales Hemsky's', where there are so many options and you still end up choosing the worse one.
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>>66631891
He earned it. He's completely turned around an organization that was self-destructing and ruining player development.
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>>66631977
if you watch the play it came immediately after a clean faceoff win on the other side of his net. he collects the puck behind the net and here he has plenty of options. he chooses to hold onto the puck and skate directly and slowly into kessel which leaves him stuck here >>66630663 where he then passes directly to bonino with tons of space.

he made about every mistake he could on the play
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>>66632330
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HEIL HITLER
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>>66632828
>tfw the Oilers are ruining another top prospect

Every fucking time
I feel so sorry for Leon
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>>66633354
top fucking kek
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>>66632821
The obvious play here is off the glass and out. But why karlsson racks so much points up is his world class passing can usually make up for poor decisions like this, and his all world skating can usually make up for mistakes like this.
>>
>last game in Rexal Place
>Oilers alumni ceremony AFTER the game
>oilers coming off a 5-0 ass kicking by the flames
When the oilers shit the bed tonight will the alumni refuse to come out?
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>>66622823
I want to say Islanders because >rags, but they're shit without Halak.
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>>66633619
it looks more like a set break out play where he should pass it to the guy on the boards who will then chip it up past the blue line. that would explain why the other 2 forwards eventually end up over there. he tried to do too much
>>
>>66622860

I played from 6-14. My highlight moment was our team playing in one of these regional tournaments we have where its like you drive out to a random city in the GTA and a bunch of different teams play together. John Tavares was on the other team and was fucking obliterating us every shift, like as soon as he got the puck you couldn't really stop him he was just way faster and generally better like it's crazy playing agaisnt someone like that you feel helpless. So becuase I couldn't really keep up with him, and being a defensemen, I just tripped him when he got past me, he fell and slammed into the boards, got up, adn started cussing me out like real hard, and the Teen ref got in between us and ended up giving him a penalty for trying to fight me while I somehow didn't get a penalty. It was a great moment, we still lost like 8-2 though.
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>>66633354
Nylander has already surpassed him playing sub 20 games.

So how many games until he has proved himself as the defacto #1 pick?

Hedman, Landeskog, Forsberg already did it.

When will the anti swede agenda end?
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>>66633680
You cock smoking oilcucks better fucking win this shit. >we need joulevi or chychrun
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>>66633619
Or the guy in front of the net

>b-but you NEVER pass in front of the net, I learned that when I played in-house

shut up. plenty of teams use breakout passes in front of the net. that's how the kongs breakout half the time
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>>66633783
Landeskog is shit. Almost Dustin Brown tier captain.
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>>66633783
>hedman
oh right just remembered I wanted to make this webm
>>
Fuuuuuuuuck Canada
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>>66633905
Except he is the driving force on his shit tier team while Brown is the downs syndrome anchor on his god tier team
>>
>>66629183
>against lundshit

I'm fucking rolling.
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>>66633963
Oh it's the gypsy kid again.

Kil lyourself
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>>66633845
You should almost never pass in front of the net bruh. That said it is done in certain situations but coaches hate it and for good reason.
It's possible to talk about hockey without telling people to shut up and acting like a butthurt nerd.
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>>66634072
are hedman and landeskog muslim? why do you defend infidels?
>>
>rags
>>
>>66634199
>clots
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>>66634241
>rags
>>
>>66634305
>pads
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>>66634199
>BLOTS
>CLOTS
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>>66634203
>Le grew up in commegypsyshiithole man still living in a third world shithole man

Leave
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>>66634349
did you just describe sweden

your imam will not tolerate that language Ibn-Alim
>>
>buttblasted swede vs buttblasted slav autism war
See you in a couple hours bros
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>>66634447
>A gypsy is trying to converse with first worlders

There are other forums for your fetish man.

Go talk to indians or someone else in your league m8.
>>
>>66634518
This one Swede's usually mad at everything
>>
>>66634637
>trying to converse with first worlders
yeah trying, but failing considering I'm talking to a Swede right now

this is getting stale, you need to add in some more variety man, soon not even the Finns will reply to you
>>
Was sweden a mistake?
>>
>>66634655
Yeah he is a pretty bad shitposter. He just comes off as really upset for no reason.
>>
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>>66634778
>Gypsy still talking

Just get down on your knees going "PLZ PLZ MONI MONI GIVE" already like the rest of your family on our streets
>>
>>66634928
cheerleader effect
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>>66634781
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>>66635018
He can get anyone he wants and he knows it.

Just hanging with a bro in a hotel room topless while being 100% secure of his heterosexuality
>>
>>66627822
the american way
>>
who gonna /playoffbeard/ here?

mine won't be pretty, but i'll be doing it
>>
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>mad
>at people making fun of sandwiches
>>
>>66635952

Mine was glorious in 2009
>>
>>66636147
why would anyone make fun of a sandwich? did the sandwich hurt you?
>>
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>>66635952
>implying I shave now
I love going to school as a vet.
I look like I'm homeless.
>>
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Almost over
>>
>>66636772
who are you quoting
>>
>please meme god let the broons into the ploffs
>>
>>66636808
who are you quoting now
>>
>>66636345
are veterinarians known for long beards?
>>
Finish Barkov autists, Minnesota Wild shitposters, even fucking Greece are all better than faggot Swedes at least the Kneelander loser
>>
>>66636805
>>66636840

not quoting, just trolling for replies
>>
> hey, here's a reminder with half of the text obscured. You can click on it to see when the game is but the nhl app will just crash

Is there a shittier app
>>
>>66636941
The city of me
>>
>>66636972
this bothers me too that you cant drag it down to expand the text. and when its news it doesn't even fucking take you to the correct article. although
>flylels
>is that a fucking windows phone
>>
>>66636972
>five pages of apps
>dock with five symbols
>pape is literally a park where niggers grow weed
>labels on icons
>no iconpack
Kill yourself.
>>
>>66636873
i was wondering where that "kneelander" comes from. I thought he knee'd someone but then watching Florida-toronto the commentator literally said "kneelander".
>>
>>66637025
>pape is literally a park where niggers grow weed

you would know huh brazil
>>
>>66637017
Galaxy s5, I'm following the wings not the flyers

>>66637025
Like I give a shit what some third world country thinks
>brasi7
>>
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>>66637025

i have literally never seen a brazilian in a /hoc/ thread

any other broons fans that can feel the JUST feel with me, give me all your (You)'s for strength
>>
>>66637025
At least he can afford a phone you fukken munki
>>
>>66637098
HE'S HERE. SHUT IT DOWN!
>>
serbia has been stepping it up
>>
they can still win the cup right? stamkos doesnt do anything in the playoffs anyway
>>
>>66633845
It's generally bad form, but that's something each coach has a different feeling towards. Some are never ok with it and will continue to tell the players to stop doing it even when it works nicely, and the others will only be ok with it when the skilled/smart players do it. If they see the bottom 6 dmen or grinder/goon forwards pulling that shit they tend to get upset really quickly. The pay off just isn't high enough to make that play over taking the safe route and wiring it around the boards/icing it.
>>
>>66633764
I still think one of the forwards was too far over. It looks like both are competing for space thinking they are in the right spot. There should have been one closer to the middle of the ice to spread out Pittsburghs defenders and give Karlsson another option. Karlsson still should have made that pass though. Clearly a case of over thinking a simple play.
>>
>>66637274
>losing to the >rags
you're fucked son
welcome to cap hell
>>
>>66637274
Enjoy losing Stammer for nothing.
>>
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lifes a bitch but then you die, thats why we get high, cause you never know when you're gonna go
>>
>>66637386
>>66637404
>inb4 sandwich autism
>>
>>66623100

Its somehow both
>>
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>>66637386
>7-1 in game 7s at home
>>66637404
do you think teams will still be willing to offer stammer the contract he wants after blood clots, a broken foot, and one of the worst seasons hes ever played? honestly i dont think hes worth more than the 8.5 tampa offered him, and even that seems generous at this point
>>66637424
>nobody even brought up sandwiches and hes still getting mad at them
>>
>>66637489
besides the laffs anyway, i know theyd throw every penny they have at stammer to get him to play there
>>
>>66637489
and there it is
>>
>>66637489
If he makes it to July 1 the Leafs will make him the highest paid player in the league.
>>
>>66637520
>>66637520
>>66637520

new thread here boys

>>66637520
>>66637520
>>66637520
>>
>>66637526
don't you think he'd rather win another cup instead of going to the laffs?
>>
>>66637528
your life is sad
>>
>>66637526
I dont think he would sign with a non-cup contender
>>66637546
>another
>>
>>66627994

It should be Q but he will never get proper recognition from the voters.

Oh well, he will just keep winning Cups and piling up the W's
>>
>>66637489
8.5 is an insult to a player like stamkos
>>
>>66637546
>another cup
>clots "fans"
>>
>>66637559
clots fans don't watch hockey
>>
>>66633354
His low point totals started in January. Was goat in November and December (13in13, 13in14) and did great in the little bit he played in October (5in2). His point production fell off when RNH went down and McDavid came back. This is not surprising at all. RNH was given more minutes against top lines while Draisaitl received more minutes against the bottom 6. Then when RNH got injured, Draisaitl was forced to take on his burdens, as was Hall who was on the same line. McDavid comes back and of course he is going to get the easier matchups to capitalize on his offensive skill, so Draisaitl continued to play the tougher role against top lines. He's looked decent when he consider how many minutes he's played against other teams top lines. He's stayed reasonably healthy the whole time too, which is a great sign for fans use to fragile young stars. If he adds more endurance and works on his foot speed he will become a dominant force down the middle.
>>
>>66633680
>losing to the cantpucks

They're going to give the alumni a good show. McDavid won't disappoint, I guarantee it!
>>
>>66637559
>>66637579
I thought he was like 30.

t. blue jackets fan
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