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IND:Report: Colts plan to fire coach Chuck Pagano
BUF:Reports: Bills plan to release Mario Williams
NYJ:Bilal Powell (ankle) misses another practice
WAS:Cousins will play, but snaps to be determined
CHI:Bears want to sign Jeffery to long-term deal
CAR:Jonathan Stewart not practicing Thursday
CLE:Johnny Manziel (concussion) officially out
PHI:Shurmur hints offense will not change Week 17
WAS:Gruden hints starters may play limited snaps
IND:Pagano and Grigson have 'toxic' relationship
SEA:Carroll thinks Lynch can be back for playoffs
NE:Report: Unlikely Julian Edelman plays Week 17
Raiders will win the Owl next season.
First for dirty birdies
So are they firing him before or after the last game?
>>64577870
Nope
>>64577899
Yup.
I hope the Falcons pick up Mario Williams to put on the other side of Beasley. He should thrive in a 4-3.
First for pats triggers.
>yfw chip kelly runs your team
>>64577921
How
>>64577821
Xth for 18-1 still happening
>>64577948
Meme magic.
Pat Shurmur will be the next coach of the Colts.
Sneak's Official Post Week 16 NFL Power Rankings, sponsored by Draft Kings™
1. Cardinals (+1)
2. Panthers (-1)
3. Chiefs (+2)
4. Patriots (-1)
5. Broncos (+2)
6. Seahawks (-2)
7. Jets (+3)
8. Vikings (+3)
9. Bengals (-1)
10. Redskins (+2)
11. Texans (+2)
12. Steelers (-6)
13. Packers (-4)
14. Falcons (+5)
15. Bills
16. Raiders
17. Rams
18. Colts
19. Giants (-5)
20. Lions (+2)
21. Saints (+2)
22. Bears (+5)
23. Bucs (-3)
24. Eagles (-3)
25. Ravens (+5)
26. Jaguars (-2)
27. Chargers (-2)
28. Dolphins (-2)
29. Browns (-1)
30. 49ers (-1)
31. Cowboys
32. Titans
>>64577821
If Chuck hadn't had cancer he would have been a lock for getting fired halfway through the season. I like to imagine dropping 50 on them was the final nail in the coffin.
DAT placed on IR. Whoopsie.
>not having a genius DC
>2 (two) go ahead late 4th quarter drives in his first playoff game
>puts his team in a position to win his second playoff game against eventual super bowl champs
>throws for 4 TD 0 INT 300+ yards and 44 points in his third playoff game
>alex smith (having a career year in passing) can't win in the postseason with a team as talented as the chiefs
>alex smith can't win in the postseason in a field of fitzpatrick, weeden, mccarron, and osweiler
>>64578004
>1. Cardinals (+1)
>2. Panthers (-1)
>>64578066
he's literally the 3rd best out of those QBs
>tfw Rex Ryan ruined your defense
>>64578225
>tfw Chip Kelly ruined your team
When will the LA Raiders win the SB?
>>64578243
Rex is still with us though.
>my face when "people" actually think the team with the best defense and a top 10 offense in the NFL will miss the playoffs this season
>Alex Smith (objectively and statistically a top 15 QB, it isn't even debatable)
>Jamaal Charles (best RB in the game who will be 100% healthy, unlike the entirety of last year, he will put up 1,000+YDs/10+TDs/5.0+YPC,)
>Travis Kelce (a top 3 TE already and going into this season will be fully recovered from knee surgery 2 offseasons ago, 1000+YDs/7+TDs)
>James O'Shaughnessy (literally a Travis Kelce-clone)
>Jeremy Maclin (top 15 WR, 900+YDs/5+TDs)
>Chris Conley (a white guy trapped in a black's body, one of the smartest players in football, elite measurables, incredible upside)
>DAT (one of the fastest and most explosive players in football)
>Anthony Sherman (best FB in NFL)
>Best pass rush in the NFL
>Best LB corp in the NFL
>Best secondary in the AFC
>Top 5 D-Line
Barring major injuries to key players, there is literally no way the Chiefs are missing the playoffs this season
The Chiefs playoff win drought ends in 2015-2016
You can't prove me wrong
Cap it
>>64578245
After the iggles win a ring
>>64578245
Next year, bro.
>>64578046
Whoa when was this found
>>64578286 to all the Chiefs fags and the faggots that keep posting that shitty pasta, there is a reason Smith was traded away. 2011 NFCCG 49ers have homefield and smith was unable to do a fuckin thing for the second half of the game With a much better team around him. Smith needed to be carried by an elite defense and elite run game to even get that far. and once either of those is compromised expect a meltdown
Gg
>>64578345
Funny how you don't mention the divisional game in 2011 where Smith won a shootout with Drew Brees.
Also
>thinking $(ers are capable of good decisions
ayyy lmao
Enjoy Kaepnigger
>Pagano gone
the healing can begin
I swear to god I want to express the disgust I have with Jim Irsay. This coach, who has been through a lot, took this 11-5 team to the playoffs 3x can toss him out like that. Not even get at the man who fucked up the roster this offseason, traded a fucking 1st round pick for that guy, almost got Andrew Luck killed, injured not only a fucking 41 year old back up, but a guy who hasn't played in years.
How can anyone sit here and not get on the fucking GM who has saying in all of the coach actions? I'm fucking astonished.
>>64578286
>btw guys i'm a queefs fan XDDD
>pay attention to meee xp
Fuck off.
Fuck. Off.
We seriously do not care. We don't care about your shit team, or your garbage fanbase, we don't care about your city. One thing we certainly don't care about is your fucking memes. Christ, why do queefs fans even post? Do you fucks ever benefit, inform, arouse concern in ANYONE on this board? No. You posted this because you are solipsistic memeing pieces of shit who think they matter because people keep replying to your stupid copypastas and memes. I can hear you just now, you're thinking "xD but le smeth is elit-"
SHUT.
THE.
FUCK.
UP.
I dont care about your fucking QB either. This is a thread where you post shitty-made memes of your pathetic team for validation, hell it could be /s4s/ for all that matters - you are all just cancerous attention whores. The idiots on this board who continue to reply to your shitposts have convinced you that you have any kind of worth, guess what: you fucking dont. You're valued for nothing. Why you think posting the same fucking shit in every god damn /nfl/ thread is funny is fucking beyond me.
Words cannot describe the utter amount of hatred I have for you classless pieces of human garbage. I cannot stand your vapid fanbase or the way you constantly scream during a fucking game. You are literal scum who lives for nothing more than getting validation from random autists on the internet and you think we're going to tolerate you parading your fucking boring memes on our board? Think again, fuckface. Fans like you are the most boring people any NFL fan could ever meet, because you do nothing but spam the same fucking memes and copypastas or SOME OTHER SHIT WE DON'T CARE ABOUT. Fuck you. You have the audacity to expect us to care when you never provide any interesting discourse or say something interesting, you literally just consume and regurgitate SHIT. We whole heartedly despise you, and you should never forget that.
>>64578601
This would be better pasta than the chiefs pasta
good job son
>>64578565
There's no hope for Indy with Irsay around, I'm sorry anon but Luck is going to be fucked because of this
>>64578601
QUEEFFAGS
GETTING
BLOWN
THE
FUCK
OUT
:^)
>>64578624
>implying it wasn't already pasta
This is from the PeyPey 4 pick game, lad.
>>64578636
When will he OD?
>>64578636
Luck will leave as soon as his contract is up if he knows what's good for him.
>>64578695
When its too late to save the Colts
>>64578696
If he's smart he goes somewhere with a good o line and an owner without autism
> According to an NFL source, Luck sustained torn cartilage on two of his ribs and was still coping with significant pain after returning to the lineup for four games in late October and early November. The injury likely affected Luck's performance after he returned from a two-game absence that the Colts attributed to a shoulder injury. Luck, according to the source, needed pain-killing injections to play and was quite limited by the injury, which impacted his throwing motion and likely his accuracy.
> The Colts attributed his absence to a shoulder injury but never mentioned his ribs. Luck was present at practice each day and fulfilled his duties.
Uh oh.
>>64578696
What QB-needy team could he go to that gives him a better chance to win though? Jets and Broncos don't look as QB-needy as they did a couple months ago, and both Philly and Houston are probably taking a QB in this draft
>>64578066
>implying osweiler isn't the future goat
>>64578815
He can back up McGloin on the Raiders.
>>64578819
>6'8" qb that has passes batted and deflected often
will trade pees for ham sandwich
>>64578636
>Tom Brady retires after next year
>Luck leaves the Colts to sign with the Patriots
>yfw
>tfw chip kelly might go to your team
titans please take him
>>64578243
>tfw Capers and McCarthy have been ruining this team for the past 4 years but literally nothing has been done about it
Does Grigson have photos of Irsay doing meth? Why the fuck isn't he getting fired too?
>>64578890
Based York
>>64578890
Youve never been clear on which team you support famalam
>>64578931
>Harbaughtism
>Scarletism
Hmm I wonder which team he supports?
>>64578890
>Chip might join the 49ers
>Punt returner and slot receiver De'Anthony Thomas' season is over. The Chiefs put him on the non-football illness list. He hasn't played since suffering a concussion in a game against the Chargers on Nov. 22.
>>64578753
>When its too late to save the Colts
That happened 30 years ago though.
>>64578943
because I totally identify with people on a chineese rubber tossing lingerie forum
kill yourself raidnigger
>>64578921
I was just thinking about this also.
>>64578792
This shit hurts my soul. Even Luck lied to play in the games.
>>64578931
the one where living in the past isn't just a way of life, it's a necessary survival tactic
>>64578858
He has to throw downward for all the manlet skills players.
>>64579004
The same could be said about my team as well.
>people not wanting Chip Kelly as a coach
Are you guys fucking stupid?
He's probably the best option out there right now.
He took a team with none of his players to two 10 win seasons (not something easily accomplished in this league)
He was fired because of his work as GM and personnel director. He tore the team apart and they lost trust in him because of that.
He's still a great coach, and you'd be a fool to not want him as a coach if you're in one of those positions at the moment.
Just don't give him personnel control.
>>64579004
do not stress any more my child
the year of ravens regression has ended
'85 Bears vs. '78 Steelers.
>>64579004
>>64579034
>living in the past isn't just a way of life, it's a necessary survival tactic
>Faguars and LA-ders fans think their teams will be good in the future
Iggles BTFO by Belibased. stay irrelevant iggles.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14472270/bill-belichick-defends-chip-kelly-says-lot-ex-eagles-not-doing-too-much
What are the best single draft years by any team all time?
>>64579131
>hire a racist coach
>let coach get rid of all good players
>expect your black players to want to play for him
bellycheck is just mad because the nfl is not letting him cheat very much this year
>>64579161
steelers drafted 4 hall of famers in the 1974 draft
>>64579109
the raiders are good now and will be favourites for the AFCW next year, and the jaguars have some of the best young offensive talent in the NFL, their defense is fucking awful but improving slowly, and all their recent high picks have been on offense. Fowler is the only defensive player they've taken in the first 3 rounds the last two years, and he didnt play a snap. Expect mad defensive picks and an improved team
>>64579045
not every good coach is a good fit organizationally with every team, though. if the coach and front office don't get along or heavily disagree about control, it's just not gonna work very long. we've seen that time and time again with many teams in multiple eras.
the only way a niners coach will work is if he's okay with being the whipping boy for both the owner and GM while still being able to succeed in that environment somehow. a guy like chip kelly is going to be doomed to fail from the start.
>>64578964
fun fact the colts have been in indianapolis longer than they ever were in baltimore
>>64579084
I still say we should've won that game, we had the better players and system that year and were hot. we lost that time, but it was an upset. maybe that opinion is all in my mind, but I'm sticking to it.
>>64579241
But your organization is already a shitshow, might as well take a chance on someone who has value and see what happens, rather than reject the idea and hope and prey some miracle "whipping boy for both the owner and GM while still being able to succeed in that environment somehow" comes around.
>>64579226
Will the eagles draft 4 future HOF players in 2016?
>>64579300
yes and they will all win super bowls with the packers in the twilight of their careers
>>64578400
Where is kappernigger
>>64578286
>>64578601
>yfw da chefs win da superb owl
>>64579270
the thing is, a good coach with too many "personality problems" who wants "too much control" is not going to last long here even if he has a few winning seasons. if he DOES find success, it's -despite- the organization, rather than because of it. he definitively CAN'T "turn the organization around" or whatever, because it's only a matter of time before he gets canned. having poor coaching is a problem, but it's not the root problem here. as long as the ownership remains like this, it will make any coaching situation turn toxic sooner rather than later.
>>64579328
They'll take TO's route and join the cowboys
>tfw 4 former iggles players help create another dynasty for the Cowboys
GET THE FUCK OUTTA PHILLY BITCH!
>>64579161
>>64579226
this is probably the correct answer, Ravens 96 is right up there. 49ers 2007 is probably the best in recent years.
>>64579237
Thanks you BritBro
>>64579433
Thank you Based Carr
>>64579433
TYBC
>>64579433
Thank You Based Carr
>>64579433
Fuck Carr and that shitty organization
>>64579433
Thank you based Carr
>>64579405
yeah, think about all those super bowls TO helped the cowboys get to
>>64579433
he's alright i guess
>>64579466
>>bbeing this mad
>>64579466
Love you too BB.
>>64579433
>all these teams now have potential franchise qbs
>now stuck with Gabbert and whatever scrub gets picked up in this upcoming draft
tybc
>>64579507
You know what must be done. You must kill Jed York and then you will have a franchise QB.
>>64579161
>>64579423
also if you want wild speculation 2014 jaguars could be remembered in this group soon, Bortles, Marquise Lee, Allen Robinson, Allen Hurns (UDFA), Telvin Smith, Bradon Linder and Aaron Colvin
I do also believe the 2014 draft class is probably the best ever
>>64579433
thank you based carr
>>64579433
Thank you Based Carr
>>64578400
>Funny how you don't mention the divisional game in 2011 where Smith won a shootout with Drew Brees.
you mean the same game where the 49ers got 4 turnovers in just the first half but went into halftime only up by 3 points? the same one where alex smith went 4/15 on third down and 2/4 in the red zone? the same one where he couldn't even throw 300 yards and got carried by over 140 yards on the ground?
yeah sure, that team accomplishment sure made alex smith look impressive.
>>64579433
DUBS CONFIRM
THANK YOU BASED CARR
>>64578327
m8, he was a student in columbine high school during the shootings
>>64579328
He thanked God the eagles didn't want him anymore
How are the ravens ranked 10th in defense?
>>64578345
Never at once did I mention Kap but whatever enjoy going to a play off game and falling back to irrelevance when Carr and the Raidniggers runaway with the division next year. Shit team and shit part of the country what a combo
>>64579638
because theyre about the 10th best defense, their offense has been awful
>>64579637
wonder how he feels about your current QB
>yfw 6th seed chiefs play 3rd seed bengals
one of these teams will have to get a playoff win
>>64579622
>one yard away from 300 yds
>3 TDs, 0 INT
>carried
lmao cry more
How is Kaepshit working for you?
>>64578066
>Still got this guy for a coach
>Will spend the rest of his career making the playoffs and going no where
Andy Reid is going to win the Owl with the Chefs.
>>64579622
>>64578400
BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
L
O
W
N
T
H
E
F
U
C
K
O
U
T
>>64579697
Oh yeah also forgot that he ran for a TD. So I guess that's 4 TDs. ;^)
>>64578205
>Pretending that whole list isn't terrible.
>>64579708
I think you may have forgotten the last time he was in the Owl.
>>64579691
They'll be friends ;)
>>64579631
>>64579621
>>64579595
>>64579433
welcome back bitches....
>>64579774
Spoiler time is coming chiefs
>>64579622
that giants defense played uncharacteristically good in the playoffs.
>shutting matt ryan out
>holding packers (best O in league) to 20 points in lambeau
>holding pats to 17 points
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000613114/article/bill-belichick-chip-kellys-firing-really-disappointing
Watch the clip. Bill btfo lurie for firing him
"alot of those guys he got rid of really aren't doing to much for other people"
for casual. this is BB pissed. he barely talks in the conferences. "i don't know how you can build a one year program. some of the guys..."
>>64579766
hopefully reggie teaches him how to pray the gay away
aka blunt force trauma to the head
>>64579741
That's more on the iggles than Andy. No coach can win an owl in Philly
this will be the playoff seeding
COLTS CLINCH PLAYOFFS WITH:
>Bengals loss
>Texans loss
>Chargers loss
>Jets loss
>Saints loss
>Chiefs loss
>Patriots loss
>Browns loss
>Colts win
How are my odds /sp/?
>>64579582
Bortles, Robinson, and Hurns are all really good picks. Great draft overall, one of the better in recent memory, but drafting Marqise Lee was a mistake in hindsight.
They missed Pro Bowlers in Trai Turner and Devonta Freeman, and also passed over Jarvis Landry, John Brown, Jeremy Hill, and DAT.
>>64579801
You now remember Matt Ryan tossing 3 picks vs the Raiders in 2012
>first half
>in Atlanta
>>64579826
Impossible my friend.
>>64579793
are you going to spoil the chiefs by losing? winning the division only gives us a harder playoff game
>>64579697
>>64579722
throwing a few TDs isn't as impressive when you're just capping off a team drive. that game was all about field position and possession, just like it was all through 2011. the reason he had no INTs is because he'd rather take a sack, which he did FOUR times that game. all he had to do was not make mistakes, keep the ball in our possession, and make the simpler plays. he wasn't assigned to be creative and make shit happen, because he just wasn't good enough for it. was it a good game? sure. was alex smith phenomenal in it? hell no. he did his job of being a game regional supervisor well enough, though.
also just because I'm not laying the praise on thick for smith doesn't mean I love kaepernick by default. they both have major flaws.
>>64579824
>Chiefs losing
>Ever
>>64579840
Hurns was undrafted
>>64579801
some sports radio talking head said it best: the giants only seem to be good in years when they shouldn't be. the rest of the time when they have a better looking team, they don't live up to expectations.
>>64579821
Might be the other way senpai ;)
Also, pls don't post any pics of non-owl winning Reggie :(
>>64579824
>stoolers miss the playoffs because of the ravens
>stoolers trips nowhere in sight for days
It couldnt be more beautiful
stay cucked
>>64579892
this is the real minister of defense
deal w. it
>these unis
hnnngh
>>64579846
didn't he also have that game where he threw 5 INTs but still won anyways? several years ago, I think it was against the saints
>>64579826
Last time I checked they were a tiny bit shy of 4000 :1.
>>64579929
Thank you for your duty.
>>64579840
Lee has looked better this year and every team misses players thats just how drafting goes. Lee was widely considered a steal where they got him, lots of people had him as the 3rd or 4th best wideout on the board
>>64579880
Meant to put pickups instead of picks, my mistake. Still though, getting 1 TD and 161 yards from a 2nd round pick is unacceptable. Throw in Freeman gashing everybody or Turner keeping Bortles upright, and that offense would be record-setting.
>>64579946
Nope that was against the Cardinals. He threw 14 INTs total in 2012 with 8 of those picks coming in 2 games against the Cardinals and Raiders.
>>64579929
Let's not forget the part the Pats played by rolling over simply to screw the Steelers out of the playoffs.
>>64579824
>chiefs at bengals
>one of these teams HAS to win
inb4 terrorist attack and/or plane crash takes out both teams
>>64579981
Not saying the Jags are a shit franchise, and hindsight is always 20/20, but I just think an already great draft could have been a GOAT draft if one or two picks went differently.
>>64579931
>those uni
>only in the memories of eagles fans
>The is the future you chose
>>64579999
why'd you have to go and get quads
I think the pats actually choked that game away
>>64579826
>Saints loss
Wat
>>64579826
> Pats
> Jets
I want to believe.
>>64580047
people who lose an eye don't lose their eyebrow too usually
>>64580055
The first half all the did was run the ball and try gimmick plays, they didn't even try to drive down the field with 2 minutes and 2 timeouts left.
>>64580047
The Raiders would have to actually be good for this to work
>>64580096
>Implying they aren't already good
>>64579929
Steelers trips have been MIA for a while.
But I'm always here, besides they performed above my expectations, I thought >we'd go 8-8.
>>64580047
nope, both of them will still be horseshit.
Meanwhile Bridgewater will be getting rings while your fan bases rejoice about winning more than 5 games.
>Carr and Bortles are better cuz muh fantasy points
Stay cucked
>>64580129
Why do you hate us so? We like Teddy too.
>>64580047
>The Jags and Raiders will become the most entertaining AFC rivalry in our lifetime
absolutelydisgusting.png
>>64580088
Didn't even think about that lol
>>64579433
Thank you based Carr
>>64579826
>>64580070
>all those teams lose
>yfw the Colts lose
>>64580129
>Being this much of a fag.
Bortles, Carr and Teddy are all good and fun to watch why go and make it an argument, just be happy we're actually getting entertaining players in the league.
>>64580141
Have to embrace the alpha role
>>64580129
>>64580129
>>64580141
>Viqueens fans getting smug because AP carried Teddy into the playoffs
>>64580038thats always how it goes though, hindsight is pointless in drafting because all 32 teams generally agree on how good a player is and you pick them in that agreed spot. The players you mentioned didnt go for another two rounds after Lee was picked, and the players in and around that selection wouldn't have done much for the jags. The next 15 picks after that the only arguably great players there are timmy jernigan and stephen tuitt, then jeremy hill 16 picks later, who would have been a big reach at 39.
Its always easy to say that richard sherman or tom brady should have gone in the first round but you can only grade drafting on the players around the pick, eric ebron is a better example of a bad pick
>>64580184
Wrong image
>>64579988
>Turner giving Bortles actual time to throw
>Bortles getting to hand off or throw to Freeman
Please, anon, my dick can only get so erect.
Carl's Stone Cold Lock of the Century of the Week
Bills vs Jets
http://youtu.be/TB5ohZ3z65I
>>64580239
also linder is about as good as trai turner, nothing lost there
>>64580206
The only thing that's correct is the fact that Carr sucks
>>64578875
pls god no, I want jimmy, we need someone who's studied behind brady
>>64580185
>B-but AD held Teddy back
Retards are still in denial that they drafted another bust
>>64580311
Teddy isn't a bust. He does remind me of a bust though, Josh Freeman when he wasnt shit
>>64580351
Cardinals?
>>64580290
>gushing over Carr since week 1
>lol he sucks now
>>64580351
the ravens?
>>64578286
>mfw the chiefs choke in the playoffs again and another player kills themselves in the locker room
>>64580351
I wanna say loins alex
>>64580351
It's probably some shit team like the Browns or Carolina
>>64580371
I've seen the light and repented my sins senpai
>>64580393
>>64580395
>>64580402
not quite, try again
Different kinds of qbs with Carr, bridge and bortles
Bortles is like a giant Brett farve. Balls out, big dude, keeps plays slice few could.
Carr plays kind of like Jim kelly. Quick as fuck, can thrown dragons from 40 yards in nice touch on deep ball.
Bridge plays like either a Jeff Garcia or and don't go nuts on me joe Montana. His footwork, old mans game, generally chilled playing style.
Bridge is an injury risk, carr digs his own hole and bortles Gets streaky and a needs better team.
>>64580373
>ravens
Sun, Dec 13
vs
Seahawks
L 35 - 6
Sun, Dec 20
vs
Chiefs
L 34 - 14
Final
>>64580351
Cards?
>>64580373
>forgetting the texans game
I still havent recovered
>>64580414
Bungles or Chiefs
>>64580418
34-14 is less than 3 possessions, but fair enough, I just guessed a team with a decent defense, the chiefs would be my next guess
>>64580351
second guess
Colts
http://www.nfl.com/videos/philadelphia-eagles/0ap2000000276662/NFL-Films-Presents-The-Fog-Bowl
>this was 27 years ago
Also
>iggles
>>64580444
I'll give it to you.
The Chiefs haven't lost by more than 16 points in the Smith + Reid era. The seahawks haven't lost by three possessions in 4 seasons.
>>64580404
Yes >>64580416
Bridgewater is behind a bottom 5 o-line. Don't know why you say he's injury prone though. He's missed one game and he had to leave the Rasm game because Gregg Williams bountygated him. He does a very good job of scrambling and throwing it away. He is the true "can run but only when necessary" QB unlike Wilson and Newton.
>>64580445
>20 points
>less than 3 possessions
>>64580483
>He's missed one game and he had to leave the Rasm game because Gregg Williams bountygated him.
He got knocked the fuck out because he doesn't know when to slide and tries to get a few extra yards.
Vikes o-line is shit because Teddy holds onto the ball way too long and can't connect on deep passes to save his life
>Pagano gonna get sacked
>Gus Bradley isn't
>>64580475
The two best game managers are the best at keeping their team in the game.
>>64580507
oh i misread the question i thought it was larger than 3 possessions although that seems silly now i think about it
>>64577821
>Colts plan to fire coach Chuck Pagano
I almost want the Colts to make the playoffs now
>>64580483
>nothing is ever Teddy's fault
You forgot "every INT is the WRs' fault"
https://twitter.com/NFL/status/682705324567052288
>>64580483
Just his Height/weight plus it's the nfc north. Playing on concrete grass for 2 games atleast then 8 on fast ass turf is bad for qbs. Pass rush is faster, everything is faster. Not as bad as gb in the winter but bad. To do well on turf you need to mentally or physically extremely fast or you die by hits
>>64577870
If the Raiders ever win an owl with Carr as qb, the shitposting will be off the charts
>>64580526
>>64580553
Yup, Teddy's fault, should've slid
>>64580526
But that's wrong, faggot.
>>64580618
Dumbass is still upright. The DB has no time react
>>64580677
>Hurr teddy elite!
>It's all the WR's, TE, O-line, RB, OC, dirty team's fault
>Rams
City desperately wants team to stay
Owner wants to move and is the most capable of doing so
>Chargers
City wants team to stay, but not as much as St. Louis
Owner wants to move, but is hard-pressed to do so on his own
>Raiders
City doesn't care whether they stay or not
Owner wants to stay, but will leave if the opportunity presents itself.
Who loses the lab owl, /sp/?
>>64580708
Raiders. We stay in Oakland!
http://strawpoll.me/6416429
>>64580736
>No third option
Fuck off snoke
>>64580703
It's true
>against Burrs
17/20, 220+ yards, 4TDs 1 rush TD,
>3 incompletions were 2 knocked at the line and 1 drop
>>64579774
Is that Robin Williams?
>>64580785
>17/20
>20
Dropped.
>>64580785
>cotton picking one game out of an entire year
Daily reminder that if your LB gets juked by a lanky whiteboi then you should consider suicide
I don't know if I should be impressed by the fact that if Big Ben and the Steelers miss the playoffs Tom Brady will have more wins than every other qb in the playoffs combined by 7 games or if I should be depressed.
>>64577870
Very OK with this
>>64580889
>Its a Patriots in the Super Bowl episode
>>64577870
>next year is our yearr I swearrr!!
kek
>>64580889
>Tom Brady will have more wins* than every other qb in the playoffs combined by 7 games
There you go
>>64580925
It looks like no one can stop them now.
>>64580206
template?
>>64580804
>seeing that he doesn't throw a lot, then using lack of TDs thrown as "proof" he sucks
>>64580960
Patriots will stop themselves tbqh. Yeah they'll be getting players back but they're nowhere near as good as they were the first few weeks. Any team with a great pass rush will tear them apart. Wouldn't be surprised if it were the fucking Jests to do it. Make it EXACTLY like 2010
Titans fans, can your team possibly pull off an upset over the Colts? I don't even know who the hell their quarterback is, because Luck, Hasselbeck and Clipboard Jesus are ALL fucking injured, they might as well have sgned fucking Tebow for all I know. Mettenberger isn't exactly elite either, but certainly not worse than the Colts 4th stringer. >We (Browns) really need that 1st pick, so hopefully you can win this.
>>64581033
It's going to be Josh Freeman vs. Mett in the Shitb Owl.
>>64581019
>Memewater's only good games come when defenses commit to stopping AP
At least use a game that wasn't against a bottomfeeder
>>64581011
Right Here. But you better make something good.
>>64580119
>Implying finishing at or under .500 makes you good.
>>64581057
>Peterson was out for the game after the first drive of the second half
>tfw finally have good coach
>tfw finally feel pride in my team again
>tfw everyone talking about the Jets sportsmanship
>tfw Rex Ryan's toxic negative nigger energy is gone
>>64581085
>The Chicago Bears
>>64581083
>Implying being good at being bad doesn't make you good
>>64581057
Teddy is a better player in general when AP isn't on the field. Nobody is arguing this.
>>64581065
you shouldnt have turned every flag transparent
now the core of the joke will need to be re done every time
>>64580925
Tom Brady has played 14 seasons in the NFL were he played in at least 15 games. If he makes it to the super bowl this year then he would have appeared in 7 super bowls in 14 years. He can't keep getting away with it.
>>64581124
Because shitwater is straight up garbage under center and slightly less garbage in the shotgun
>>64581136
Its not mine senpai I got it from /int/
>>64581057
>Thursday night on the road in Arizona
25/36 (66 Cmp%), 335 (three hundred thirty five) yards, 1 TD
>>64581188
you tell those smart faggots they were wrong this time
run along scamp
>>64581230
And the game losing fumble vs Dwight 50 year old Freeney . :^)
>>64581230
Is that stat line supposed to be impressive? Fucking Tom Landry put up better numbers against the Cards
It's such a beautiful night.
>>64581418
kys again
>>64581096
>tfw always likes the Jets but want them to lose so Steelers can get in the playoffs
>>64581415
>throwing a fade to Andre Holmes
B R A V O M U S G R A V E
R
A
V
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M
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G
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A
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>
>>64581418
same here.
Let's say the 49ers were actually really good this year and made it to the Super Bowl. What would the NFL do?
>>64581263
real template coming through
>http://www.wthr.com/story/30863550/kravitz-grigsons-meddling-helped-undermine-soon-to-be-fired-pagano
Holy fucking Clots fags
How are you not furious? How has this guy not been fired?
He seems like an absolutely horrific GM.
Not even kidding guys, I returned home from vacation yesterday and found out that I've been robbed
This is the current state of my tv (they took my TV and one computer monitor but left the other)
Can I get some (You)s?
>>64581616
>you
>>64581616
At least (you) still have doubles
>>64580060
Texans beat the Saints so that factors in to strength of victory
>>64581616
Sure. Praying for you bro
>>64581616
Hope your income tax refund comes fast
>>64581616
>computer and speaker sitting right there
>>64581616
Are you not leaving precautions for this shit?
>Be tall and intimidating
>Leave clues that you're still home
Wow so difficult
Seriously though, hope youre fine from now on
>>64581616
Who robs a house but leaves a 800 dollar PC?
>>64581616
sorry to hear that senpai
why do (You) have two monitors?
>Playing the Niners
8-8 here we come!
>>64581688
Hahaha its 1200 and eaily the most expensive item in my apartment, but they left it. Thankfully
>>64581706
I'm a software engineer and two monitors is much better for productivity
>>64581616
>computer and speaker sitting right there
Kill yourself tbqh
>>64581752
did your team make the playoffs though?
>>64581778
yeah nigga
I need to buy a new TV by Sunday
>pagano fired
>kelly fired
>coughlin fired
>bradley employed
>JEFF FUCKING MEDIOCRE AS SHIT FISHER IS STILL EMPLOYED
What the fuck
>>64581616
are the women safe?
Why is Dez Bryant on IR?
>>64580708
the NFL, because there'd be no super major market the owners can use as leverage to browbeat their cities into funding new top-tier stadiums. next best option would be like vegas, portland, san antonio, orlando, memphis... places where you'd not only have to deal with getting a great stadium and relocation plan approved like they are now, but you also have to worry about whether going to those cities is going to be a good option anyways. LA is a huge market starved for a local football team for a long time, so the market situation is already as desirable as it possibly could be. cities are also making it harder and harder lately to approve public funding for new stadium projects, so if there's not a huge leverage by the league like having LA on the table, then we could easily see that trend not only continue but escalate to the point where all stadium projects only really run on private money. that's going to kill a lot of mid-market development in the long run, which is bad for the league. so unless something changes in the future, the league is standing to face a huge PR gain but a long-term financial loss by moving a team to LA.
>>64581799
>Coughlin fired
What
>>64581806
Suicide watch
>>64581799
>coughlin fired?
coughlin is kill?
no
>>64581794
>MFW Von isn't even the best pass rusher in his Division
>>64581805
>women
If you mean my cat, then yes
>>64581752
how much do you make?
>>64581794
someone post the von miller majora's mask picture, it's my favorite
>>64581910
70k in NC, graduated last year
>>64581893
>cat
what a pussy
>>64581876
That's not Kahlil Mack
I just realized Von, Houston and Mack are all in the same division
Is any other division remotely close to those three?
>>64581938
this nigga works all day and likely lives alone. He doesn't have time for a dog.
>>64581973
poor rivers
>>64581876
wrong
>>64581973
>no chargers pass rushers
Kek
>>64581991
do you have Mack's pro day pic? you know the one.
>>64581999
They blew their load early with Shawn Merriman
>>64581999
B-b-b-but
>>64581999
>muh Manti Teo
>>64582012
>>64581973
Don't forget Aldrunk Smith when he gets off suspension
>new years eve spent on /nfl/ general
>>64582088
Ha, I hate myself
pic double related
>>64581829
This is why I think only one team gets moved to LA and they can still hold the possibility of a second team being there over everyone's heads.
>>64581147
>He can't keep getting away with it.
lel. He's gone to SBs in 3 distinct phases of his career. He'll do as he pleases (win Owls).
>Tenderfoot/Game Manager (2001, '03, '04)
It's no secret that the absolutely stacked Pats defense helped him greatly through those first 4 years. He really came into his own during the SB vs. the Panthers, even if he did had to win that shootout against >Jake The Man.
>Cursed Offensive Juggernaut (2007, 2011)
Give an elite QB two exceptionally/legendarily gifted WRs and a top 10 defense, and what do you get? 16-0, and an inexplicably massive choke.
Then give him two exceptionally/legendarily talented TEs in a new scheme with a shit-tier defense and what do you get? A far better team on the surface than on paper, and another SB loss to what in reality was a team about half a tier below what the Pats were (due to their defense alone).
>Fearless Leader Aging Like Fine Wine (2014)
That he was able to drag a two-thirds-injured team to 12 fucking wins in 2013, and then actually put up a fight against the highest scoring offense of all time is a miracle in itself, and he was easily better than receiver-babby Manning on that alone.
Then in 2014, most everyone is healthy again, and Edelman has his breakout season. The third 12-win season in a row, and an incredible playoff run to an Owl win amid mass scrutiny over what turns out to be a whole lot of nothing a few months later.
2015: almost a repeat of 2013, with an easier schedule. One game left in the regular season, and then, who knows?
>>64581799
>Coughlin fired
please let this be true
>>64579892
Reggie won a bowl...
Do chiefs have the best front 7 in football right now?
Poe, Allen Bailey, Jaye Howard, Mike Devito, Houston, Tamba Hali, Derrick Johnson, and honorable mentions of being decent with Dee Ford, Frank "can't flombo the" Zombo, and the Jury is out on Ramik Wilson.
>>64581973
elite pass rushers by division:
>AFCE
jones/collins
wilkerson/richardson
wake
>AFCN
dumervil
dunlap/atkins
>AFCS
watt
casey
>AFCW
mack/smith
houston
miller
>NFCE
cox
hardy
>NFCN
ansah
>NFCS
short
jordan
mccoy
>NFCW
donald
campbell
bennett/avril
>>64582151
Texans
>>64581973
AFC East has some beasts
>>64582197
>not including Sheard
Dude's been a monster. May have been BB's best offseason grab
>"I'd say a lot of the players that were on the Eagles, that are no longer on the Eagles, aren't really doing too much for anybody else either."
STONE FUCKING COLD
>>64582197
Ware is better than Smith
>>64581799
Coughlin was fired? Since when?
>>64578815
dont let this season fool you ryan fitzpatrick fucking sucks
you now remember the saints paid Jarius byrd 20 million dollars
>>64582339
>"I mean, I don't anything about hockey. It's a pretty simple game. Put the puck in the net."
/hoc/ btfo
>>64582421
>implying
You made that up.
Here's an actual quote from BB on hockey today.
>>64582421
>"I don't see what's so hard. Get the ball in the end zone."
–Confucius
>>64582484
lel it's a real quote from his interview today, but it was obviously meant as a joke
> As of January 1, 2016 Chuck Pagano technically is resigned as Colts coach.
>>64582598
>Grigson is still your GM
How do you feel famalam?
>>64581472
I know this feel. As a Jets fan I have always liked and respected the Steelers I hate that we are pitted against one another
>>64582657
Here's an article on Grigson if you want to get more mad. >>64581615
So which is the worst organization?
Clots?
Chorgers?
R******s?
>>64582706
>derrick thomas
i wish
>>64582657
According to reports, Grigson is gone if Irsay hires a coach who wants different personnel around him, stays if he hires a coach thats ok with Grigson
>>64582746
$(ers
Fixed a bit
>>64582693
The only thing I can say I despite about him.
>>64582761
filename
>>64582749
Never fucking reply to me again unless you're contributing to the thread.
>>64582749
Fuck, I always confuse him with Johnson
>>64582752
Grigson has something on Irsay, that's one of the reasons he's not gone.
>>64582706
Roby is a starter and an honorable mention...?
Anyone else see texans jets afccg?
>>64582857
Threw him in the secondary at the last minute and forgot to remove his name
>>64582916
>>64579237
>raiders are good now
7-9
You have shit standards
All AFCW defense revised
DE : Justin Houston
DT : Dan Williams
DT : Dontari Poe
DE : Demarcus Ware
OLB : Khalil Mack / Aldon Smith
ILB : Von Miller
ILB : Derrick Johnson
OLB : Tamba Hali
CB : Sean Smith
CB : Marcus Peters
CB : Chris Harris Jr.
CB : Jason Verrett
CB : Bradley Roby
S : Charles Woodson
S : Eric Berry
S : Tyvon Branch
S : Eric Weddle
Honorable mention : Aqib Talib, T.J. Ward, Any charger with 2 sacks or 2 picks, Shane Ray, Antonio Smith, David Amerson, Jerry Attaochu, Brandon Flowers
>>64582754
>he actually thinks this will happen
>>64583029
>He doesn't
>>64583021
>Honorable mention
>Brandon Flowers
He deserves NO mention.
Peterson has been better than he has.
I feel sorry for whatever team picks up Pagano. HORRIBLE coach.
>>64579863
So, if a team has a good run game then their QB is just riding the coat tails?
>>64583104
welcome to the new age of football where the QB has to throw for 500 yards and multiple scores and provide 100% of the team's offense, and also, the defense has to be shit, otherwise he's a run or defense babby
>>64583130
Stop trying to defend WIlson. He's a game manager and is a product of the system. Put him on literally any other team and he is a bench player.
>>64583130
but then that makes him a schedule/system babby
>/nfl/ logic
No qbs are good anymore
>>64583256
Except Tom Brady.
>>64579691
He really really likes friends
>>64583314
at cheating, amirite guize?
>>64583345
Lel.
top 3 qb's in the draft? where do they land?
>>64583402
Top 3 in qbs drafted
>>64583402
undrafted
>>64583345
That is correct. No one can cheat and apparently get away with it better than Tom Brady.
>>64583504
Peyton's doing a pretty good job.
>>64583314
18-1
>/nfl/ laughed when I said Darren McFadden could rush for over 1000 yards
>/nfl/ greentexted me when I said Darren McFadden could average at least 4.4 ypc
Cant wait for the Cowboys to be healthy and put on a better year than 2014
>>64583538
get tucked
>tfw headed out on NYE with the niggas bout to turn up
Who /parkinglotpimpin/ here?
Happy New Years, /nfl/. Love you guys.
>>64583557
Eat melted popsicles.
>Texans make playoffs
50% of the league should be utterly ashamed
>>64583650
it doesn't even look the same.....it only works with the UT logo
>>64583639
More like headed to LA
>>64583650
Are you a reddit.com/r/texans mod? Because I just sent them an image like that
>>64582258
Bill confirmed white power
Niggers btfo
>implying I haven't been saying this forever when defending kellys trades that people like desean and lesean have been facing injuries off the team
>implying /sp/ didn't say I had sour grapes and just idiotically spammed owg at me
Now look the goat coach agrees with me
Now it's time for Johnny Harbaugh to take the reigns in philly next year to put us atop the gareabge heap of the NFC East for the next 10 years with out biggest competition being Kirk cousins
>>64583728
>talking shit on r/texans
I'm not a mod but I'm concerned about your virulent hatred for a harmless franchise/city
just want to remind you crackas to shop HY-Vee.
Where theres a helpful smile in every isle my crackas
>>64583791
Filtered
>>64583816
>HOL UP
you filtered Hy-Vee?
>>64583544
We also laughed when you said this was the year that the cowboys will win the owl with Tony romo behind the goat line and possibly go 16-0
We greentexted you when your main reasoning was >muh 5 first round draft picks
You have to pick non busts with those,, just look at the raiders 2002-2013
>>64583590
Might as well wear paper asterisks taped to his fingers
>>64583728
I also send the /r/4chan mods pictures of my poo when I get the inclination.
>>64583816
" 'smacks lips' " " 'smack lips' "
"HOL UP HEY. HE BEING HELPFUL. YOU MEANS YO DON'T "
" 'SMACKS LIPS' " " 'SMACKS LIPS' "
"WANNA GEEET SUM HELP FROM BROTHA NIGGA? HOL UP"
>>64578565
>This coach, who has been through a lot, took this 11-5 team to the playoffs 3x can toss him out like that
Bruce Arians did all the work in 2012
2013 they went 8-0 vs sub .500 teams and 3-5 vs .500+ teams
2014 they went 9-0 vs sub .500 teams and 2-5 vs .500+ teams
most of it was probably Andrew Luck, willing his way to wins, and he was injured this year
>b-b-but muh playoff wins
Bengals and Peyton, those don't count as wins
this organization has been riding out what Polian and Tony Dungy built
>>64578565
colts are a trash franchise that tank and cry for rule changes, they don't even deserve the one championship they did get in the peyton era
>>64578565
Hate to break it to you mi familia but, Luck just isn't all that good. He never was.
>>64584076
"The stall in the back has a hole that let's u see in the ladies room"
>>64584076
when i was in hs some kid used to write c4 threats and we got to leave early
>>64584123
"some kid"
Way to cover those tracks anon
>>64584169
this isn't facebook bud, but nice epic greeting card meme, i'll be sure to like and comment on this post
>>64578565
I can't wait until Luck pulls a Palmer and you guys are left eating shit for the next twenty years
>literally just saw a commercial with Brandon Marshall narrating the issues of mental health and especially keying in on Men not confronting it and seeking help
Damn BMarsh. Dude turned his life around big time if you ask me.
It's a tripfriends pretend they are out having fun edition.
>Boston has a police code for people who break into Tom Brady's house and jerk him off and steals his jizz
>>64582151
So Zombo is doing well in KC? Good thing the Packers got rid of him.
>>64584420
What the fuck
>>64584458
>if I read it on 4chan it must be true!
>>64584487
I don't question the post's validity
I question if the poster is legally sane though
Anyway 18-1
Call it a hunch, but I think the Chargers and Rams are going to end up in LA.
I don't know why but it feels like those teams are gonna be the ones to move
>>64584420
Wasn't that in the Ted 2 trailer?
>>64584552
Better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all I always say. Enjoy always missing playoffs and continually getting your hopes up for next season. Here in NE, we don't worry about that cause we got bb to protect us.
>>64584568
I wish the Chargers would stay.
>>64584552
kek, didn't mean to take a shot at you m8
anyway Tuck Rule and >Benedict Gruden
>>64584585
18-1
8
-
1
>>64584420
>Marky Mark and Seth MacFarlane bear jerking off QB.jpg
The Panthers went 14-0 this season and the Chiefs somehow managed to cultivate the worst shitposting
>>64584614
S
--
8
>>64584640
the Panthers didn't have a consistent shitposting track record before this year. the Chefs are like that every year
>>64584640
Because turning 1-5 into 10-5 is a lot more impressive than going 14-0
One is a shitty season turned amazing, the other is constantly being compared to 18-0 patriots
>>64577981
>>64581057
>>64584169
who are some analysts/announcers (that aren't ex-players/coaches) who would make good NFL coaches?
>>64584691
Sneak
>>64584691
EDP
>>64584691
>>64584701
>>64584712
I should add, who are also not 4channers or 4/nfl/ memes
>>64580949
but how many wins came with under inflated balls?
>>64584911
And as with 9/11, we will never know the truth
Jet fuel about to melt those Steeler beams bitches.
>>64584712
that fat fuck wouldn't be able to coach himself to a manageable weight let alone coach a team of grown men.
>>64584911
as many as you want. Can be one, can be all the them. No one knows for certain but they'll sure as hell act like it
>>64584954
It'd be fun to watch, though.
>>64584953
Underoo post right there
>tfw the MVP hasn't also won the super bowl since 1999
W-we're gonna break the curse, right bros?
>>64585193
Can't stop an angry brady. This is his fuck you tour to the nfl for trying to suspend him for bullshit.
>>64585193
>implying (implying) that cam newton will win the MVP
ahahahaha holy shit dude no
no no no
off base by a mile
>>64585233
>this delusion
>>64585193
>>64585218
>>64585233
Cam will inevitably be MVP (or, much less likely, co-MVP with Brady or Palmer) because >muh 14-0. But the Panthurrs aren't gonna win the SB.
>>64585193
>tfw Brady gets it and immediately collapses in the playoffs
exactly why I want Cam to win it, Nothing but bad luck.
>>64585193
>14-1
>MVP
>>64585312
>>64585313
alright, i'll correct myself
>implying (implying) that cam newton deserves to win the MVP
>people think Cam shouldn't get MVP
blacked.jpg
But seriously why? Both of them had similar levels of division opponents, and quality are skill positions.
>Line starts becoming shit for Panthers
>Cam deals with it
>Line starts becoming shit for Patriots
>Brady gets cucked by everything.
I could understand if Palmer got it, but not Brady
>>64585455
>comparing a mobile QB to pocket passers
Palmer wins. Cam has nigger speed and Brady has deflated balls.
>>64585455
>mfw a ravens """""trip""""" says anything
Its literally like talking to a two year old
>>64585336
>filename not >absolutelydisgusting.jpg
Yeah, Brady's been a victim of the MVP curse both times he won (>18-1 and 2010) too. I had a graphic a few weeks ago that showed how MVP winners' teams did each season; only ~20 out of 49 made the playoffs at all, and I think 10 won the Owl, with like 3 or 4 Owl losers.
>>64585455
Pretty sure he lost to Giants in the nfccg
>>64585455
brady has a worse team and better stats, and didn't get embarrassed by the falcons
>inb4 muh total touchdowns
yeah cam deserves the MVP because he runs it in at the goal line instead of a running back, what a valuable job only he could do
>>64585455
>zero playoff losses
nice memory
>>64585515
I don't really have an arugment against Palmer, I understand why, if he does, why he would win the MVP. I have no problem with him wining
>>64585548
Image was made before then, I believe.
>>64585564
Yeah, and the Panthers played better teams
>>64585608
answered above, 2011 was 5 years ago
>>64585631
>yeah, and Panthers played better teams
No they did not
At least via a week ago's SOS
>>64585631
>doesn't remember two fucking years ago
kek nice selective memory
also the panthers have a worse SoS than cards or pats
>>64585694
>tfw Cardinals had the toughest schedule
>tfw Cardinals cuck the schedule babbys in the playoffs
>>64585631
Well then why would you post it you queer
>>64585735
>38-10 will never not happen
>>64585772
>45-44
>>64583021
>thinking the best front 7 player are all pass rushers
what is this the pro bowl?
>>64585735
>>64585745
>two years ago
The image was made in jest of Colin Krap, fight me.
>>64585694
meh, I'm thinking of a stat from a few weeks ago. However, Brady isn't going to win it, I'm wrong about the stats, but I still think Cam had a bigger impact for his team over Brady
Also
>cheating
>>64585694
This was last week, Falcons Texans and Redskins should be green
>>64584662
no its not
>>64585841
Ya I know but I'm pretty lazy to update it.
>>64585826
>I'm wrong about the stats
>I'm wrong about the schedule
>I forget things that happened two years ago
>My opinion boils down to "well I think it should be this way because I think so"
i sure hope the MVP voters aren't as retarded as you
>>64585937
>gave Manning 5 MVPs as if on autopilot when he was actually good
they are
>>64585937
>i sure hope the MVP voters aren't as retarded as you
Some definitely are
>>64585826
>he won't win because muh cheating last season
you're wrong, admit it. Plus no sane Patriots fan wants Brady to get the MVP anyways, last time he got MVP he got cucked by the Jets in the playoffs and the time before that was 18-1.
>>64585694
Wins against >.500 teams:
Bengals: 3
Pats: 4
Panthers: 5
Cardinals: 4
Your picture seems to show otherwise. Were you just posting it sarcastically?
>its a "I wish cam would cuck me" thread
>>64586013
What you just said is wrong. I literally posted the team opponent win percentages in the picture (I looked them all up)
>>64585193
the defensive player of the year was won the owl 3 times since 99 and another made it there too
>defense wins championships
>>64585740
>toughest schedule of the three by a few hundredths of a point
not all that impressive there, bud
>>64586013
>>64586043
Actually no my picture is completely correct
>>64586013
Look at the wins/losses (figure out the current week based off your own head)
>>64586052
>Panthers fans want to compare stats
>Gets BTFO by Cardinals and Patriots fans
>"s-stats don't matter"
>>64586044
ray lewis?, ?, ?
>>64585986
kek, the best part is that the year peyton was out was eli's best year ever, that 2011 giants season was insane
>all those 4th quarter comebacks
>that terrible regular season defense
>cucked rodgers in the first round
>>64586007
fair enough, which is why he will probably win it
my point was that he doesn't DESERVE to win it
>>64586016
slut
>>64585937
>He thinks I was posting the Smiff image for any real purpose
naw, I'm well aware of the Chiefs vs Colts playoff, I just clicked a random image in my folder. Look, I can post another non-relevant image
Thing is, its really a toss up. Take either of the QBs away from their respective team, and those ships sink. Which is really what the MVP is.
>>64586009
I already admitted I was wrong about he SOS m8
>>64586078
I'd prefer to have Palmer win it, however I believe will win it, so meh
>>64586043
What I just posted is 100% true senpai
>>64586013
It does not show otherwise
>>64586113
And my picture is true too. You should actually look at the win/loss column before posting next time.
>>64586078
>implying I have a horse in this race
we all know the Panthers are the weakest team of the Elite 3.
>>64586097
>cucked Rodgers in the first round
to be fair, that was a pretty superhuman season for A-Rodge. GB's defense was worse than Giants-tier terrible. Weakest 15-1 team ever, aside from this year's Panthurrs.
>>64586080
off the top of my head, someone from the 02 bucs and someone from the 08 steelers
idk whether it was sapp or brooks and harrison or lolamalu
>>64586109
yeah it may be a tossup, but combined MVPs are fucking retarded
cam has worse stats than brady and palmer, and a more talented team than brady
by your logic since they're all equally invaluable to their teams, shouldn't brady get it?
>>64586159
yeah it was a deserved MVP for him, that season is one of the best ever by a QB
shame he was cursed by the MVP bug
>>64586139
Your picture is a week old, retard. SoS has changed since then
>>64586013
>packer
>seahawks
please show me the other 3 panther wins against teams over 500
>31-0
Why do people even bother watching amateur sports?
>>64586199
No fucking shit but you can still figure it out in your head if you weren't a fucking down-syndromed retard.
>>64586204
Redskins, Falcons, and Texans are all over .500
>>64586080
ray lewis
james harrison
derrick brooks
and polomalu got there
>>64586211
>My picture is right!
>It's actually not but you could figure it out if you wanted!
epic
>>64586097
Not a slut >:(
>>64586211
>using stats in a popularity contest
You nigs may as well bitch about pro bowl votes. MVP is literally meaningless if you're a QB 2004+12
>>64586209
Because I hate you.
>>64586195
I agree, combined MVPs is some stupid shit for babbie.
Cam has worse stats than Brady, yes, but people are used to Brady/Belchick carrying that team, so his stats are really anything knew.
But people are noticing Cam make flashy plays and people a flashy player.
Also, how the fuck did you jump to saying all 3 are "equal" that Brady should somehow get it?
The argument should be Palmer v Brady, and the Cardinals play in a better division and Conference(ehh, not 100% on this)
>>64586209
Because there's nothing better to do in the south
>>64586271
whore
>>64586283
>best division
>implying
AFCE has the best out of division record, and two playoff teams that didn't need to refball the lions to make the playoffs
cardinals are a better team than the patriots, meaning they have more talented, meaning that brady is putting up more TDs and yards than palmer with less help, meaning he's more valuable
it's not hard to parse
i love how palmer's playing, and in any other year he runs away with it, but he got unlucky
>These limp-dick faggots on here talking about a game other grown men play instead of out getting some pussy
Lol
>>64583003
They lost ? No
>>64586340
>Thinks the Jets could beat the Seahawks
>That the Dolphins could beat the Rams
Although the Bills do beat the Niners.
If Cam doesn't win it, Palmer does.
Fucking screencap this
>>64586389
>Canada getting cucked by refugees and DUDE WEED
>The person who scores the most touchdowns isn't the most valuable player in the league
>>64586429
>jets couldn't beat the seahawks
that d-line would abuse the fuck out of seattle's """"""o-line"""" bud
fins are trash so yeah probably not
whoever actually wins it won't prove shit, as i've said like 5 fucking times already
the point is that cam doesn't deserve to win it
>>64586460
>the QB who runs in the most 5 yards touchdowns deserves to win MVP
>>64586528
Cam deserve to get second or third place, via his stats and how he has preformed in prime/clutch time (besides last game).
However his perception in the media will push him to First or Second, get over it. Sometimes stats and metrics don't decide who wins what
MVP is between Brady and Palmer, period.
Thinking Cam deserves it is a meme opinion and you're a meme for thinking it.
>>64586340
poopyhead
>>64586389
Fo mayo
>>64586588
so you admit he wouldn't win it if the judging was completely unbiased? that's all i wanted to hear
>>64586611
basically this, if palmer destroys the seahawks i'd give it to him but if he underwhelms i'd go brady
>>64586528
>the QB with the most YAC deserves to win MVP
>Palmer and Brady have better stats!
>rush yards don't count though :^)
>>64586528
Is this your first season watching football, friend?
>AHHH, my Jets could no doubt, 100% destroy those Seahawks! I know this because I can compare o-lines and d-lines because that's all there is to the game right?!?
>>64586682
>lol who cares about completion percentage if you can run!
>>64586703
lol who cares about running if you can check down!
palmer > cam nigton
>>64586389
pussy is gay
>>64586726
lol who cares about checking down if you can chuck 60mph to a receiver within 10 yards on 3rd down and miss!
>>64586687
ah, a noble veteran of /nfl/ appears! tell me, wise elder, why would the Seattle Seahawks, magnificent team that they are, desTROY the lowly, pathetic New York Jets?
i defer to your wise, wise judgement because after all, you completely devalued my points by implying (most correctly, by the way) that this is my first season with you fine gentlemen over here at r/nfl– i mean /nfl/, of course
>>64586626
>unbiased
the fuck
If you base the MVP on only the stats of the player, you're a fool. Very few things are based solely on the numbers.
Cam has 3 less passing TDs than Brady with similar trash at WR position, and no Gronk
and I don't feel like looking up rushing tds. Now I dislike running qbs, but you can't throw those out because "muh qb stats" or some shit. Those rushing touchdowns changed those games, whether your autism allows you to understand that or not
NFC Playoff Teams SoS
>Seahawks: 124-101 Opp W-L, 0.551 Opp%
>Packers: 118-107 Opp W-L, 0.524 Opp%
>Cardinals: 114-111 Opp W-L, 0.507 Opp%
>Vikings: 114-111 Opp W-L, 0.507 Opp%
>Redskins: 106-119 Opp W-L, 0.471 Opp%
>Panthers: 105-120 Opp W-L, 0.467 Opp %
AFC Playoff Teams SoS
>Broncos: 117-108 Opp W-L, 0.520 Opp%
>Chiefs: 114-111 Opp W-L, 0.507 Opp%
>Texans: 112-113 Opp W-L, 0.498 Opp%
>Bengals: 110-115 Opp W-L, 0.489 Opp%
>Patriots: 108-117 Opp W-L, 0.480 Opp%
>Jets: 100-125 Opp W-L, 0.444 Opp%
>>64586765
dude you literally just said yourself that cam deserves second place, which was what i was referring to
what the fuck are you going on about now with stats and shit
you identified why cam will probably win correctly, because he's exciting and his team won a lot
also
>olsen isn't in any way comparable to gronk
>panthers don't have a pro bowl running back or a top tier offensive line also
l o l fåm
and yeah, cam running it in from the 1 really altered the fuck out of the game, jstew couldn't have done that
>Actual Value Added to His Team
1. Palmer
2. Brady
3. Cam
>Performance/Stats (on paper)
1. Palmer
2. Cam
3. Brady
>Performance/Stats (in real life context)
1. Brady
2. Palmer
3. Cam
Palmer's da MVP imho fimfams
When are All-Pro teams released?
>>64586729
Slut
>>64586852
Next week I believe
>>64586811
dude I love 3rd Leg Greg but he's nowhere near Gronk's level.
>>64586811
>jstew couldn't have done that
Clearly they didn't think so if they had Cam run it in, as most of those runs were him fucking defenders to get in the endzone.
>Olsen has 20 less catches and 4 less TDS than Gronk.
Honestly, I'm just enjoying this before I go to bed
>>64585694
>Top 4 seeds
>Bengals over Broncos
Denver's SOS blows those 4 out of the water as well.
>>64586852
now that will be telling when it comes to the mvp voting later
if Cam gets MVP but not first-team AP that will be bullshit
>>64586913
That'll probably happen since All-Pro voting is only about >muh stats
>>64586884
not trying to equate the two, just making the point that carolina's receiving weapons + olsen are about the same as what brady's been working with lately + gronk
>>64586887
>most
you mean a couple of highlight reel plays? should MVP be based on who has the best youtube highlights video? i've watched the TDs cam runs in, there are a couple amazing ones but not most
also way to miss the point completely about gronk and olsen, but what should i be expecting at this point from you lol
>>64586913
no way in hell he gets 1st team all pro, that's mostly about stats and no QB completing less than 60% of his passes is gonna be first team all pro
>>64586887
Olsen is a top 2/3 TE
Cam has Stewart and Brady has shit week to week behind him.
>>64587012
don't try to reason with him, think he's a little salty from last year's playoffs or something
people like him think having gronk=HOW CAN YOU SAY THE PATRIOTS DON'T HAVE AS MUCH TALENT AS OTHER TEAMS HE'S SO GOOD JUST THROW TO HIM ON EVERY PLAY
500 for wasted thread
>>64587012
Gronk is so far ahead of Olsen you can't even compare them, and Stewart is injured
>>64586943
>looks back at Peyton's "FTAP" and "MVP" seasons
>3 one-and-dones and a SB reaming in 4 of those 5 years iirc
makes sense as to why he got the nod over Brady for 1st-Team for pretty much 10 years straight
>>64587039
Brady avoiding sacks in the pocket is x10 more impressive than Cam rolling out and zipping to the 6'5 guy on the sideline desu
The key drops for both teams is ridiculous tho
>>64587058
>Gronk is so far ahead of Olsen you can't even compare them
Olsen is a bigger safety blanket for Cam than Gronk is to Brady m8
THE FIRST 2016 THREAD IS HERE, FOLKS
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>>64587169
>>64587169
>>64587169
>2015
