/cfb/ Boxing Day Bowl Thread II: Beamerball Edition
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Independence Bowl: Virginia Tech 45 - Tulsa 21 shortly before the half
Foster Farms Bowl: UCLA vs Nebraska starts in 1 bong 40 bings
>>64467923
Thirst
>>64467923
Tulsa needs a TD right here before half
>where's the safety?
HOW IS THAT NOT A CATCH?
>>64467965
Because it hit the ground you faggot
not a catch
>>64467965
he didn't accept the ball into his heart
>>64467965
Fell out of his hand. Was pretty obvious from the side.
>>64467923
>1 bong 40 bings
1 bings have 60 what? binglings?
>>64467979
If you keep running your mouth, you're going to be hitting the ground next
>>64467979
>>64467990
>>64467992
>implying that "convincing shot" didn't go through 10 hours of editing alone
>implying this isn't moonlanding 2.0
good shills, all of you
>>64467998
BTFO
>>64467994
>binglings
lel
go hokies
TULSA TD
> this spazzy BPB guy
>it's a "no one plays defense" game
>>64468037
just like when your mum hits the bars
>>64468051
Wew lad
>>64468051
SAVAGE
A
V
A
G
E
>>64468051
> """""mum"""""
> that flag
>>64468051
deadly
Looks like Beamer mentally retired years ago
>tfw hookies give up a massive lead in the 4th and the loss send beamer in to a coma
Who else
/UCLA/
here
>>64468132
FUCLA
I will miss Frank Beamer.
Loved his son at South Carolina. Don't know why they haven't repeated the success at VT in recent years but Shane is the one who recruited Lattimore and Clowney and the other bucks that made those 11 win seasons happen.
>>64468132
no one
I KNOW DAT WE THE NEW SLAVES
Thanks for advertising a game from 3 weeks ago, ESPN
>Tulsa Defense
if only tulsa could play defense
beamer's pulling out all the memes in his last game
Texas getting BTFO
>>64468483
oh come on, it's not--
>dat whiff
yeah, it's pretty bad
>>64468560
is that a tornado?
>>64468599
yea there were several today in TX
>>>/pol/59357811
>>64468675
I've been lucky to have never been near a tornado. I'm going to keep that streak
>>64468746
Oklahoma here. Ive never personally seen one. Ive seen the damage though.
INT
>mfw Tulsa comes back and ruins Beamers swan song
MISSING
DEFENSE
If found call Coach Montgomery or Coach Beamer
>>64469075
I'd pet it
>tulsa
>fucking up the PAT
Not going to lie, pretty disappointed the scoring slowed down
>Tulsa defense
>>64469305
I am too
post yfw only one more quarter of Beamerball left
>false start
> Tulsa
> In charge of punting
>>64469305
>>64469342
If only we could go back to the first quarter when there were 4 touchdowns scored in 2 and a half minutes...
Who else here's going 5-0 in bowls today? Feels good
>>64469401
I rushed my picks and accidentally clicked southern miss to beat Washington. I picked Indiana to win as well.
>virginia tech in charge of getting easy touchdowns
>>64469401
I'm finally on a streak after a few crapshoot picks.
big screw up there
>>64469545
>the city of school shooters
who /tornado/ here?
>>64469747
not me thankfully
>>64469747
Fuck off dumb tornado poster
>>64469747
Tornadoes are a weather of peace
Just so we're all clear here, what's the final verdict on the Indiana game?
A) made kick, that rule is dumb as fuck and Indiana got robbed
B) missed kick, Indiana's kicker is a little bitch
Or
C) it doesn't matter because either way that was the most hilarious way that game could have ended
>>64470021
nice to have you back Nuts
bowl thread
>>64470045
>>64470045
>Tulsa comeback
I hope this isn't the Chokies rearing their ugly head
>>64470021
The only correct answer is C
>tulsa got a 3 and out
jesus christ i think it's actually happening
TULSA
U
L
S
A
HAPPENING
>Memerball
>3-point game
>this game
>>64468109
Happening
>>64468109
made the stop. habbeding confirmed?
here we go
incoming Tulsa dragon TD to take the lead
>Tulsa is driving to tie or win
> the american athletic conference
hoo boy
>>64470717
What team drives to lose?
its happening
>golden hurricanes
is that some kind of piss joke?
>Inb4 this ends exactly like the Indiana and Duke game.
well that was anti-climatic
S A C K
A
C
K
>le swiss cheese o-line
at least they made it competitive
>5-0 in today's bowl picks
that was close
Tulsa was the biggest dog in all of the bowl games.
how much was VT favored by?
>the pac-12 isn't the best conference
>>64470994
but that's true
>>64470994
>>64471001
>mfw >we go undefeated in bowls and USC bootyblasts Bama next year
>mfw Bama is STILL afraid to leave the south
Reminder that if you're rooting for Nebraska then >>>/pol/
>>64471092
What if I went to Nebraska anon?
>being on the coverage team and catching a punt at the 15 that is still bouncing towards the endzone
>in D1 college football
>in any division of football above pop warner pee wee
>chick-fil-a catering
fuck this gay earth
>>64469747
I know that feel
>i missed a snow bowl game
>>64471248
that sounds delicious and I am not a redneck hick from the south
>>64471248
> mfw i ate four strips and a club sandwich with a medium fry
help
Why weren't you able to pick all six games today correctly, /sp/?
>>64471848
Underestimated the pac 12 dominance tbphwyfam
Name a better conference
>Pro tip: you can't
>>64471982
>no teams in the cfp
Inb4 SEC logic 'muh parity caused this'
>>64471982
desu
>>64472023
Unlike the EEC the Pac 12 actually does well in bowl games
>inb4 teams don't care about bowls unless it's the championship
>>64472027
this post will go underrated
>>64472027
True senpai
wait is the pac 12 actually bragging about getting to feast on g5 teams for the first 2 weeks of bowl season like they do every year
>>64472162
(the wazzu win was nice, and i do in fact think the pac 12 is better than people think, but come on)
>>64472193
Miami literally memed themselves to a loss. If Nebraska wins the pac 12 is officially the worst
>>64472027
Bitch please
http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/112293/motivation-meter-gauging-non-playoff-sec-teams-desire-to-win-bowl-games
DAMAGE CONTROL
>>64472330
why you so obsessed my bitch
>>64472375
>get exposed as frauds last year and this year
Y-your j-just obsessed
>Tie game
Where is that idiot that was spamming the last thread about how much of a joke it would be to think Nebraska had a chance?
>>64472442
the sec literally hasnt even played one bowl game yet. this is only happening in your head
>>64472464
He had to start studying for next semesters finals
>>64472467
>conference losing to memephis and the citadel
>going to OT versus Jacksonville state and ga southern
>Playoffs on New Year's Eve
If my team wasn't in it I'd boycott
>>64472524
It's retarded. I probably won't watch either game since I'm going to parties with no one affiliated with the four and we'll have the ball drop or whatever on all night
can anyone explain why the fuck auburn is favored over memphis? even as one of the biggest sec defenders on /cfb/ i have no fucking clue
>>64472464
Nebraska is better than their record indicates. Lost a bunch of close games and beat Michigan State. Not a really good team though so it'll be a fun game.
>targeting
When will this meme die
>>64472580
Memphis has looked like shit the last few games and Auburn still has more talent on the field.
Auburn has no motivation though, so Memphis should win easily.
>>64472599
It's heavily misused
>>64472599
When the NCAA is convinced they won't get sued, so never.
Holy fuck
Worst targeting call ever
Worse than Boldin
Football will die a slow death
>>64472580
Justin Fuente isn't there
>>64472524
Same, it really is ridiculous and the only way they will back off is if people don't watch.
>doesn't leave the ground
>hits with shoulder
What the fuck
>>64472628
>motivation
Stop saying this. If you can't get "motivated " for a bowl game you're just a shit team to begin with
>>64472524
The Playoff people chose the Rose Bowl the Sugar Bowl (?) over the actual playoffs
>>64472795
Muh rose bowl has to be in Jan 1
Fuck off fags literally no one outside of B1G country cares about that game
>>64472710
motivation is definitely a factor in bowl games
>>64472841
I'm okay with the Rose Bowl staying on January 1st
But it'd have to start early
Like 11am local time
>>64472841
Not even Pac country?
>>64472980
Yeah like they cucked the peach bowl to noon NYE
>>64472977
...and is much more in doubt than it is in most regular season games
>>64472980
Problem is getting the bands from the parade to the game. It just isn't realistic to start before 11 am local time.
>>64472991
>west coast fags
>caring about college football
>>64472980
>played on the west coast
>in winter
>11am
Shit nigger if you meast EST that's like 8 over there. If you mean Pacific time then ok.
>>64473033
SOMEONE HAS TO!
Holy shit I'm STILL mad about that bullshit targeting call. Not only is it refball to the extreme that dude got ejected for doing nothing wrong.
I'm a fucking Aggie and even I can tell that's nothing but bullshit. There had better be a public apology after the game.
>>64473106
Boy good thing you didn't see that bullshit FG call at the end of the Indiana game.
>>64473039
I literally said local time
>>64473016
They'd have to find a way or move the game
>>64473003
What I don't understand is why not put all of those games on New Year's Day?
If you think they'd make more money this way, last year the Peach, Fiesta, and the Orange had record lows in both attendance and ratings
It's a bad day to have important bowl games
>>64473106
What conference are the refs? If it's PAC 12 then this wouldn't be anything new.
>>64473165
Basically they are going to try it for the first few years and then reevaluate. The contract is for 12 years, but there is a clause to allow changes at the 6 year mark.
>>64473165
The ACC
Ron Cherry is the head ref
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D8aAC4jrPM
>>64473165
It's Saturday night and I am drunk do you expect me to read every single part of your post shit nigger.
>>64473209
Meant for
>>64473176
>>64473206
They need to get out of quickly
It was a stupid idea going in
desperately need UCLA to win by a touchdown or i gotta go return my girlfriends sons boxing day presents tomorrow
>Ron cherry
It all makes sense
>>64473213
Put all good bowls on Jan 1 because it's good
>>64473252
Were you the cuck on /v/ who bought the 3ds with no game
>>64473252
>my girlfriends sons
Cuck
>>64473252
Is /fur/ actually memey or is it just the Canadians?
>>64473252
Nebraska only loses by 2-3 points every time
>>64473314
You came in here just for that?
>>64473252
even though i know this is a troll post, i feel like it's important to point out that anyone who thinks nebraska will end a season with 8 losses and anyone who thinks ucla won't choke are insane
>>64473238
The committee was so arrogant as to believe they could "create" a tradition that isn't even consistent. The first year was a massive success on New Year's Day but this year looks like it will backfire.
>>64473373
But why?
People work on New Year's Eve
Are there a decent amount of people at the game? It's practically a home game for UCLA
>>64473439
They said people would be willing to take time off for major events like a /cfb/ semifinal. They are fools that are drunk on their own power. I actually think the late game won't be hit as hard because most places will have the game on TV, although it will make the way ratings are calculated much harder. The early game ratings are the ones everyone will look at to determine if the experiment was a success.
DAT CATCH
>>64473360
I seen it on page 0
I do occasionally come into /cfb/ anyway tho
WHAT A GRAB
>>64473530
i could see clemson or OU fans doing that but who else would? lol at that delusion. I go to a major D1 school and no one even cares about watching them on NYE either. Good luck getting average bob to turn off the NYE concert ball drop show.
>>64473639
>the NYE concert ball drop show
You mean people actually watch those countdown shows?
>>64473667
its always been on in the background wherever ive been. the only place ive seen fotball on NYE is the few years I went to a bar.
>>64473639
Last year they had 25 million. They said they are looking for 70% so if they hit 15 million they will consider it a success. Anything <10M will be a failure.
>>64473762
>Thinking less people (and money) is okay
That is really fucking stupid
>>64473762
I dont get it why did they think a new years eve games are better for ratings than new year day games? someone made a mistake
>>64473908
They don't. They could only get the Rose and the Champion's Bowl (now the Sugar) to sign on if they were given New Year's slots.
They could have and should have told the bowls to fuck off but decided they didn't want to shake up the system too much with the expanded playoff.
>>64473962
Why did the Sugar get a New Year's Day slot?
It hasn't always been on New Year's Day
>>64473962
what? the system changed last year already. why did the bowl games want this then? sounds fucking retarded
>>64473998
Short answer: SEC dick waving
They wanted their "major" bowl to look it was on par with the Rose and leveraged the hell out of the committee.
>>64474031
That's because the Rose and Sugar were the semifinals so they were on New Year's. This year the Rose and Sugar are not, but have priority of a New Year's slot because of how the contract was written. You could theoretically have 1 game on NY and 1 game on NYE, but they decided not to do it that way.
>Michigan State QB Kirk Cousins leads team to NFL playoffs
>1 vs 4 primetime game alst year
>this years its the afternoon game
SEC is always gonna get the 8pm slot arent they
>>64474102
that is so retarded. the better time was either NY or the saturday. such a fucking retarded move but hey I get to watch them this year.
>>64474145
come on now. they have LEL E!SPN backing them
>>64474102
I don't think conferences have that much leverage actually
Lawl
>PAC 12
>>64474183
the SEC does since they have ESPN controlling everyone
>>64474145
why is the 2 vs 3 game later? clemson OU pretty clearly looks like the better game
>>64474208
because once bama is up by 28 at halftime people can enjoy the rest of their NYE without having to pay attention
>>64474208
Bigger audience
>>64474207
So why does the Rose Bowl have so much power then?
>>64474208
Sparty and Bama will be a good battle, I can see Clemson v. Oklahoma turning into a route
>>64474243
If the Rose Bowl tells them to fuck off, the Big 10 and PAC 12 would pull out of the system and stick with the Rose. They were the reason we didn't go to 4 a decade ago.
>>64474250
for who, clemson or OU
>>64474105
i like that. but he spaghetti'd pretty good earlier.
>>64474263
You've really got to stop memeing here
>>64474250
it could be. there's also a good chance alabama runs em out of the building
>>64474207
>This shit again
ESPN has no power here
They wanted to move the bowls off of New Year's Eve but got cockblocked by the playoff people
>>64474243
This. >>64474263
Losing nearly half of the power 5 would ruin the whole system they've propped up.
this whole thing is just a bunch of egos butting heads. thinking people care enough to change their NYE plans. Rose thinking theyre better than the Orange or Sugar. All over games that frankly, 90 percent of america doesnt care about
>>64474243
because thats the most traditional bowl there is.
>>64474208
MUH SEC SEC SEC
>>64474331
They wouldn't pick the Rose Bowl over the fucking natty
You're out of your goddamn mind
>>64474370
its not like its much older than the orange or sugar in the grand scheme of things.
muh parade
>>64474370
>MUH SEC SEC SEC
what exactly are you implying
>>64474379
No but they would have pulled the plug on the committee and kept us in the BCS before the system got setup. You obviously don't know Delany.
>>64474243
>bigger audience
don't you want to put the better game in front of the bigger audience
>>64474415
that sec and espn are going to put their game on primetime because it will benefit them the most. come on now
>>64474379
You underestimate how much the B1G and Pac want the Rose Bowl to be one of the most important games. Also CFB is all egos as one anon said shit didn't the Power 5 threaten to just leave the NCAA a few years ago if they didn't do what they wanted.
>>64474271
OU imo. I'm unimpressed with the ACC and Notre Dame.
>>64474306
No way MSU doesn't get routed. Cook will keep them in any game. I have Bama winning by a field goal
holy shit i was watching a movie and somehow nebraska scores 30 unanswered points
>>64474428
>>64474443
The BCS is better than this shit
But when push comes to shove the conferences would have picked the natty and the Rose would have to comply
>>64474443
This is also different
>>64474437
Michigan St Alabama will generate the bigger audience pool
>>64474445
Like the Big 12 is much fucking better
>>64474524
this. the only impressive conference this year is the B1G
>>64474445
>Cook will keep them in any game
no he will not lmao
>>64474524
I feel more comfortable about Oklahoma because of the Tennessee win. Yes, I think Tennessee is better than Notre Dame.
>>64474588
Memes aside. The ACC actually has some top defenses. OU's secondary will get exposed. Not saying it will be a rout. But Clemson will be able to score as much as OU. I see a close 45-42 type of game.
who here is /anyonebutbama/?
>>64474588
IMO the Tennessee and Texas games should make people very nervous about OU. they are capable of putting up an absolute dud of a game offensively, even against defenses significantly worse than those they'll face in the playoff
>>64474614
reportan
>>64474588
So you say the team who had only 2 wins against teams with a winning record in FBS is the better team?
Fucking kek
>>64474614
fuck u
>>64474499
>BCS better than anything
The BCS was SHIT and only benefited the SEC.
>>64474697
But better than this
It wasn't a praise of the old system
>>64474727
how was the bcs better
>>64474743
The biggest games weren't on shitty days
That's one
>>64474614
Nah, I don't care if Bama wins or not. I don't really care who wins this year desu. I just want to watch us crush ND by like 50 and watch Michigan lose to Florida. That's all I care about.
I'd rather have MSU or OU win it because we play both of them next year but even them making the playoffs is enough to be good for our SoS.
>>64474610
Maybe, but I think the firepower for Clemson is overrated and ACC defenses are as usual overrated. There's a lot of stat padding that happens in that conference that makes FSU and Clemson look better than they probably are most years. At least in the Shig 12 nearly every team has a top level offense, most ACC teams have neither an offense nor defense.
>>64474624
Most of their offensive struggles happened early on, it reminds me of OSU last year on that side of the ball, which is admittedly probably why I feel pretty confident about them. They have a similar feeling to last year's OSU team, and I could very well be giving that too much credit.
Regardless, though, I think this year's matchups are far less predictable than last year's, where we all knew what was going to happen to FSU and Oregon.
>>64474763
ok that's a pretty minuscule thing compared to the playoff being twice as big
>>64474637
Yes, because ND beat nobody of substance and wins against AAC teams with winning records don't make them better. I think if ND was in any P5 conference this year they would have 4-5 losses
>>64474798
Still better than Tennesee's schedule
>OOKLA
>>64474782
In terms of watching availability, it's gone downhill fast
And that's the whole point of games that don't involve your team
>>64474768
they havent been that great recently on offense either. had a good game against penn state but also were fairly listless against maryland and needed a late drive against Iowa to clear double digits. yes Iowa's defense is very good, but Bama's is the best there is.
>>64470021
How long have you been missing after the MSU game lmao
>>64474798
9 of their 12 games were against P5 teams though
>>64474818
Not at all. Tennessee played Florida w/ Grier, Bama, Oklahoma, and Georgia.
ND played Clemson and Stanford.
>>64474798
Wait a second you were giving me shit about Stanford's schedule being worse than Notre Dame's
Why did you switch so quickly?
>>64474856
>A late drive
>>64474895
>counting UGA as as good game
filtered
>>64474854
We don't know that until it has happened. Don't make up facts that do not exist.
>>64474900
I think it is. That doesn't make anything ND did impressive.
>>64474916
Better than Navy or Temple
>>64474895
I see 3 good teams there
And Tennessee had 0 wins against them
Granted, Notre Dame didn't either but their wins still came against better teams on average than Tennessee's
>>64474960
Navy would beat UGA. Easily
>>64474910
if they were trying to drive on Bama's defense in that situation LJ scott would be lucky to get to the line of scrimmage on any of his carries
would it kill nebraska to not choke for once? if you remove the choke from nebraska will they die?
>>64474960
Navy would BOOTY BLAST Georgia this year. Georgia barely beat Tech.
>>64474893
Four of which were the worst teams in each ACC division, and another was an ACC Coastal team, but that is true.
I'll rephrase. If ND played in a P5 conference and wasn't in the ACC Coastal.
>>64474949
The Peach, Fiesta, and Orange had record lows in hoth attendance and ratings
If >>64473762 is even partly true it's still a nightmare
WHY INTERCEPT IT YOU GET BETTER FIELD POSITION BY NOT INTERCEPTING IT
>>64475002
ticket prices for the orange and cotton are dirt cheap
I know a certain UCLA coach who'll try to go back to the NFL this year.
Objective fact time
Natty contenders should be limited to conference members considering how much the committee values conf champs. No teams should be allowed in the playoffs without a conf championship, including Notre gayme. Also the Offense 12 should get a ccg.
>>64475015
Because demand is so fucking low
>>64475013
Black players are ball hawgs yo
>>64474972
You're right
>>64475037
because theyre on NYE
>>64474970
>>64474983
Navy has 0 wins against P5 teams and barely beat Army. Let's take this down a notch. I don't like Georgia either and think they're always overrated, but I wouldn't pick Navy in a game against Purdue
>>64475025
disagree (other than that the big 12 should get a ccg). honestly attaching greater weight to a teams record because they won their conference is stupid
>>64475015
That's because all the OU fans bought Cotton Bowl tickets. OU ended up not getting sent to the Cotton.
>>64475046
Exactly
What's your point?
>>64475044
it was a great drive though. i would root for MSU if bama wasnt in the playoff
>>64475051
>I wouldn't pick Navy in a game against Purdue
Good to know I'm talking to a retard
>>64475066
That the games shouldnt be on NYE
>>64475025
It should be an 8 team playoff with conference champs. Let the MAC, AAC, etc. get in there to either be Cinderellas or softballs.
All I'm going to say is: who in the hell wants to watch a goddamn rematch of the Jimmy Russlel Athletic Toilet Bowl?
And fuck Clemson, the cheating sons of bitches
>>64475051
They only played one
why did the committee decide to have the playoff rotate among the NY6? should just have the Rose and Sugar bowls be the permanent semis.
>>64475002
Here's the thing I don't disagree completely but let's see what things look like for playoff games before we make broad conclusions about the playoffs. Remember without the playoffs the finals would have been Bama FSU and neither team made it out of the playoff round.
Reminder that Nebraska had absolutely no business being in this game because they were 5 - 7.
>>64475094
lots of people who arent still butthurt about losing to them. stay cucked
>>64475108
While this is true, it is a bigger indictment of UCLA.
>>64475094
>the cheating sons of bitches
?
>>64475099
because then those bowls permanently lose their traditional tie ins? that kind of shit is important to some people
>>64475053
The conference winner should be the objective best in conference via a legitimate ccg between divisions. To have the committee pick a non champ over a champ would reflect horribly on that conference because they wouldn't do it unless there were shitty schedules and no ccg and an unclear champ
>losing to a 5-7 shig 10 team
>>64475119
Wait until next year when #Boom shits all over Dabo
>>64475121
they clearly cheated in their last two games. should have lost to both carolinas.
lol would any pac 12 people like to talk about how good the conference is now
>>64474970
>>64474983
you fucking wish you yankee faggot
>win 8 games in a season
>lose bowl game to a team that doesn't even go over .500 with a bowl win
>>64475146
We got yo intern coach fuck boi. Kirby Smart will be fired within four years.
Georgia and Missouri, sitting in a tree, bottom feeding cousin fuckers I N G
>>64475100
>let's see what things look like for playoff games before we make broad conclusions about the playoffs
Look at >>64473762
I think we can
It's like putting 2 and 2 together
>Remember without the playoffs the finals would have been Bama FSU and neither team made it out of the playoff round.
People would have watched the fuck out of that
>>64475085
Navy hasn't beaten a P5 team in two years and in the past 5 seasons has only beaten Indiana and Pittsburgh. The whole idea that Navy has had some kind of resurgence is a myth. They're still nobody at all.
>>64475098
And yet they still came in 3rd in their meme conference.
>>64475139
>score with 1 second left with no chance of scoring after to go from from 12 pt loss to 5 pt loss
>should have lost
kek
>>64475128
yeah college ball isn't as simple as that. msu had no business going to the b1g ccg in the first place for example.
>>64475139
Um no and no
Both were extremely lucky to even be close to Clemson
Clemson was refballed hard in the last one
>>64475177
>The whole idea that Navy has had some kind of resurgence is a myth
Applicable to Tennessee as well
>>64475183
Kek so your ccg's and playoff contenders would be based purely off of opinion
>>64475162
it's the jim mora jr special
he can't motivate his players to get up for anything other than the most important games/their rivals. he's a shit coach desu
>UCLA losing to a team that had no business even being in a bowl game
>the city of the Pacific athletic conference
>>64475167
nice rhyme, nigger, but you wont have shit to say when the Dawgs win the SEC next year on the charred corpse of the coonsiest team of all, Alambammer and fuck up some yankee schools in the CFP before bringing home the crystal football
boy
>>64475169
No they wouldn't rating had been dropping for years.
>>64475238
Peach Bowl: Down 42% from the year prior, least watched since 2006
Fiesta Bowl: Down 34% from the year prior, lowest rated since 1985
Orange Bowl: Down 22% from the year prior, second-lowest rated since 1993
>>64475235
Just like they did this year ... oh, wait a minute, the last time Georgia won an SEC every fucking player on their current roster was in grade school
>>64475219
Tennessee statted beating some of their SEC opponents. Navy stopped playing teams that could put up a fight against Wake Forest. There's a clear difference. It's easy to call the SEC East overrated but it's still far better than the fucking AAC
>>64475235
>Dawgs win the SEC next year
how many years have we heard this now
>>64475235
As an MichiganSU fan I know that feel but try to be more tsundere about Bama it's embarrassing watching you cheer for your rival..
>>64475293
What do those numbers mean to me nothing I am talking about the Natty you fucking idiot. Which had decreasing rating up until the playoffs because MOST of the country doesn't fucking care about the south. And most of the south doesn't care about Alabama.
>>64475323
Tennessee hasn't had a win as impressive as Navy's over Memphis since Fulmer left
>>64475326
Been at least a decade. Only fanbase more delusional is the BOOTY BLASTERS.
>>64475366
One decade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtntIqtnwt4
>>64475146
I completely agree UCLA is a bunch of thug slackass bitches but to be fair, the PAC-12 can't recruit for shit. Must be nice being the SEC you can't even walk into a weight room without seeing a 6' 7" 350 pound man who don't give a fuck. You say "Hello good sir of high repute, would you enjoy playing for Ole Miss nxt semester my good man?" he'd say "i dunno what you just said, the only words I knew was Ole Miss and I'm fucking black so yeah, I'll go to Ole Miss."
>>64475363
Memphis is a middling team in a G5 conference. That's worse than being Vanderbilt.
>>64475361
That's a lot of bullshit
Now, the ratings on that game did go up BUT 4 of the other 6 suffered a ton and now all 6 will
>>64475407
Vandy lost twice to G5 teams.
>>64475408
But I don't care about those games I care about having playoffs and not having mythical National Championships.
>>64475389
>dat theme
I miss that theme song
>still better than anything randy shannon and al golden did in that time frame
>>64475425
So it's better for your autism?
You know a lot of people don't have autism
>>64472841
The Rose Bowl is the best bowl, kiddo
>>64475425
NFLfag pls go
>>64474727
you are retarded
>>64475440
You are a faggot. It's been fun arguing stupid shit with you but I'm out. Hope your team does well in their bowl.
>>64475424
So did Memphis
what do we do now?
>>64475475
>>64475450
Look, the idea of a playoff is better
Not arguing that
And we get an increased number in big bowls (5 to 7)
BUT many people can't see 3 of them because they're on at bad times so it's basically just 4
And 2 of the 3 biggest games this year and most years are inaccessible to a lot of people
Without the semis, it's pretty much the BCS
And with 2 of the good and important games are missing so the actual BCS was better to watch
Now if they move it so all of the NY6 weren't on Dec 31 it would be preferable
But it's not
>>64475545
Simulate a 24 team playoff
This is where I'm at so far
>>64475587
We're just gonna disagree on it anon no amount of arguing can change it. Like I said I hope your team has a good bowl game.
>>64475639
Got to take my frustrations out somewhere
>>64475624
>24
Absolutely disgusting
>>64475587
The biggest problem is cramming all the games into 2 days. If they spread out the NYE bowls over the next few days as they did in the BCS a lot of the bitching would go away.
>>64475682
Well attendance suffers though for the non-New Year's Day and non-natty games though
If they could get 4 time slots with 2 games in the first two slots and then the semis it would be the best and most profitable option
>>64475128
>objective
but there is often a very legitimate argument that the team that wins the conference isn't the best in the conference. for example 2014 Mizzou, who lost 34-0 to Georgia but went on to represent the East in the conference championship. if they had beat Bama and won the SEC they would have done so despite being a clearly inferior team to UGA
>>64475682
What's wrong with 24?
It's not real or even possible
But a lot of those games seem cool
>>64475751
Let's not forget 2008 and the Big 12 South
>>64475742
One on NYE, start it at 6 or 7 pm EST.
One on 1/2
One on 1/3
They never had an attendance problem when the matchups were fine. It was games with Northern Illinois and UCONN that killed attendance.
1 SEC
2 ACC
3 Pac 12
4 Big 12
5 B1G
>>64475795
It wasn't as big of a problem but it was still there
Let's remember that those days are still work days
I remember Clemson having trouble selling their Orange Bowl tickets because it was on a Wednesday I think
He won the MVP award somehow
>>64475222
>>64475183
>>64475751
This is why college football is fucking terrible. You can use all the stats you want opinion will always be the final decider. The playoff is 200% better than the BCS though because there are so many goddamn teams that you cannot let a commitee narrow the field down to just 2 based only on numbers and be confident in saying that one of those two teams is the best in the nation. Hell, even 4 might be too few.
>5-1 on picks today
>Had 42 points riding on UCLA
>mfw
>>64475805
I know you're a troll but cmon bro
>>64475953
he clearly was talking about academics
>>64475953
your right b1g is probably too high
>>64475973
>academics
>Big 10 and Pac not 1 and 2
>SEC not last
>>64476085
sec has better academics than big 12
>>64475222
>>64475751
>>64475851
You guys just don't get it. College Football is NOT the NFL. You will never enjoy college football if you think there has to be an objective "best" team or if you think some best team should come out on top. Having a National Championship is whatever. Plus one, ok. But you start bloating this thing up and you've just got a shittier version of the NFL.
Because it's not the NFL, it's POORER play and trying to be another NFL will be futile and ruin the game.
The best part of college football is the tradition, rivalry, hatred, and the most underrated attribute of all MYSTERY. That's right. God only fucking knows what is going to happen in most cfb games. Something on the scale of App State beating Michigan is not going to happen in any other sport, least of all the NFL. And Bowl Season is nothing more than a reward for teams who had a successful season to play interesting matches that you would otherwise NEVER see.
Nattys are meaningless in cfb. Winning your conference means beating all the other fucks you hate and that's the real victory. If you won a natty and didn't win your conference you didn't do shit.
>>64476089
Okay 5th place congrats
>>64476096
know how i know you went to a big 12 school?
>>64476095
your boilermakers had a pretty disappointing year
>>64476142
?
did my post sound like a purdue fan copypasta
>>64476089
UT Austin has better academics than any SEC school, their engineering is one of the best in the US
>>64476095
Tell that to the national media. Who will call you delusional and old fashioned.
>>64476158
it sounded like some shit a fan of a team that has never sniffed a natty would say
>>64476160
wow good for them. SEC has better academics than the big 12
>>64476180
Name a SEC school with better academics than UT Austin
And I'm an uninterested party by the way, I went to UC Berkeley
>>64476180
Nah man, Tennessee fan. Natty means literally nothing if we lose to Florida or Bama that season.
>>64476162
Yepp, they will. Lots of money to be made sucking cfb dry
>>64476192
Vanderbilt has significantly better academics than texas
>>64476195
are you sure it just hasnt been too long since tennessee accomplished anything. maybe you forgot what its like
>>64476118
I go to Brown so nah senpai.
>>64476192
Imagine a conference that has Berkeley and a bunch of community colleges in it. Does that conference have better academics than the Big 10?
>>64476223
Stanford is a better school than Berkeley. Stanford and Northwestern are the best FBS schools in the country for academics
>>64476221
well unless im misinterpreting your post youre not very good at counting
>>64475751
That's subjectivity. Conference championships determine the OBJECTIVE best team in the conference, which is what he was talking about. Sure you can say Georgia > Mizzou because they BTFO them. But by that logic Florida > Georgia. And then Mizzou > Florida.
One thing is rock solid. And that is that Missouri went 7-1 in the SEC, and Georgia went 6-2. If Missouri beat Bama, Missouri would be the OBJECTIVELY best team in the SEC.
>>64476230
You ruined the example you fucking mongoloid.
>>64476239
I was congratulating you for being the 5th best academic conference
The true order is:
1. PAC12
2. Big 10
3. ACC
4. Independents
5. SEC
6. Big 12
>>64476294
Service academies + Notre Dame are some of the better schools in the nation. That's quadruple the amount of good schools in the SEC.
>>64476230
>a directional university
>good
>>64476312
>independents
>a conference
also three SEC schools (vandy, flawduh, ass to mouth) are world top 100 schools, none of the independents are
>>64476223
Nah i'd say Berkeley and Northwestern match up pretty evenly
>>64476328
Notre Dame is the 18th ranked school in the country, higher than any SEC school
>>64471056
you know she's already burned that coat since it touched fat guy's pitts
>>64476312
>amount
number. number of good schools
>>64476256
saying they are objectively the best assumes that 1. all in-conference schedules within a particular conference are created equal, which they arent except in the big 12, and 2. that the outcome of 1 game head to head is necessarily a perfect indicator of which team was superior, which is certainly not the case. but anyways my initial point was just that you shouldnt assign a team extra "points" wrt playoff consideration just for winning the conference title, because having that title doesn't make the team stronger than a team that played the same schedule they did and came up with the same results but didn't win a conference title. just compare the 12/13 games they played with the 12/13 games everyone else played and take whoever's strongest
>>64472066
>>inb4 teams don't care about bowls unless it's the championship
why bother going full speed and potentially hurting your best players. just show up, 3/4 speed and win half of them anyway.
>>64476373
You don't know who the four strongest teams in the nation are. To compare one team's schedule to another team's schedule is to compare apples to oranges. The Pac-12 might be leagues better than the Big 10. Or the Big 10 might be way better than the Pac-12. You can't decide between two teams by looking at their records.
The only thing you can know is that Michigan State is the best team in the Big 10, Oklahoma is the best team in the Big 12, Clemson is the best team in the ACC, Alabama is the best team in the SEC, and Stanford can fuck off because they lost twice. Anything else is irrelevant subjectivity.
You know, I was mad going in that Nebraska got into a bowl with their losing record. After watching them play, I'm not anymore. They were playing well above what their record would suggest, and made for an engrossing game.
>>64476471
This. All big non-conference games happen at the start of the year. You can't judge the best teams at the end of the year using those games. It was shown with tOSU last season. A bad conference can prop up a team or group of 2-3 teams and then December/January rolls around and they get exposed. It's what happened to the SEC last year.
>>64476471
the fact that a team wins a conference championship does not mean that they are the best team in the conference at year end. it means that they won the conference. conference championship is an objective measure but you're jumping to unreasonable conclusions about what it measures objectively
>>64476550
It doesn't. I would bet on Ohio State to beat Michigan State every single time if they were to play again. It doesn't matter.
There are things that didn't happen and there are things that did happen. The CFP should be based on things that did happen. And considering the things that did happen, the team that wins the conference is objectively the best team in that conference.
>>64476600
no they aren't. they're objectively the team that won the conference.
>>64476600
>I would bet on Ohio State to Michigan State every single time if they were to play again
Pretty stupid statement since they lost to them
blizzard game was a good one
>>64476626
And that's literally the only objective thing in the college football. Take your opinions elsewhere.
>>64476634
>Pretty stupid statement since they lost to them
This naive for so many reasons. Teams have off weeks. Upsets happen. Teams can play out of their mind and completely suck at other times. Bad teams beat good teams. You must be new to college football.
I doubt many people would bet on Virginia Tech in a rematch against Ohio State in December of last year.
>>64476641
the objectivity is irrelevant because it's not objective as a measure of who's the best! Hawaii is objectively the only FBS school in its time zone - does that mean they should be in the playoff every year? no! because that fact, despite its objectivity, is irrelevant to the quality of Hawaii's football team
>>64476219
I know what it's like you fucking crimson fag. I remember Peyton and the first thing I think of when I hear the name of Peyton Manning is "never beat florida". I also remember the feeling of beating florida that season and the feeling of beating florida state that season and I know which one was better.
>>64476802
i guess that makes sense. at tennessee beating your rivals is really rare so it feels more special when you do it. at bama its pretty much expected every year
>>64476882
point stands, amount of hate/banter between rivals in cfb is unparalleled
can folks in bama really say they would be happy with a season winning a natty but still losing to auburn?
>>64477044
>can folks in bama really say they would be happy with a season winning a natty but still losing to auburn?
theyd be retarded not to be happy. anyone that would rather beat their rival instead of win a natty, if given the choice, should be not allowed to watch cfb ever again. thats when you know you take a manufactured rivalry way too far
>>64477110
>manufactured
maybe if your 'franchise' is <30 years old
>>64477131
my "rivalry" is over 100 years old and I wouldn't give a shit.
>le two main public schools in the state so w-we have to hate each other
>>64477158
Can't have a passionate, dramatic game without hate, which won't happen without history.
that's the whole difference, worship some nfl team because there you get to find the 'best' team if that's what you're so worried about
>>64476742
It is for the best team in that conference.
Time zone analogy doesn't make any sense.
>>64477110
Agreed, I don't Oklahoma will care so much about the Texas loss if they win it all.
>>64476373
>because having that title doesn't make the team stronger than a team that played the same schedule they did and came up with the same results but didn't win a conference title.
No one thinks otherwise my SEC educated friend
The point is that no two conference contenders should be able to have the same results because they should play each other or play enough similar teams to judge in a tiebreaker. Imagine a world where aOSU gets in over MSU this year. That would be all kinds of wrong, regardless of your lel opinions on who is the better team. Conference championships should be an accepted prerequisite and all conferences should be capable enough to make this fair or risk not having a representative in the playoffs. And Notre Lame can get fucked forever.
>>64477158
What is your rivarly?
>>64480309
this is what I'm talking about. I don't accept conference championship as a perfect measure of who's the best team in the conference, but even if it were, why should a champion of one conference necessarily get in over a better team from another conference that didn't win their conference? Or Notre Dame etc.
>>64480276
It's an extreme example of why the objectivity of conference championship does not mean we should accept it without question as a measure of who is the best team in the conference, because who won the conference championship is a perfect measure only of who won the conference championship, not who the best team is
>>64480555
"Best team" is subjective.
Rankings often diverge greatly from who the "best" team is. Take Clemson. Undisputed top-ranked team, yet the people who expect them to win out are a distinct minority.
The "best" team is irrelevant, because it doesn't even exist. There is only the most deserving team, and that team won their conference instead of losing it.
>>64480723
why would it not be, say, the team with the largest spread in conference between their average points scored and their average points scored against? That's objective too.
>their "greatest" graduate just got exposed as a PED-using cheater
>about to get rump roasted by these nerds
Will 2015 be the last year of Tennessee football? How will they ever recover?
>>64480986
nah theyre gonna swat northwestern
>>64480986
one can only hope. but tennessee fans are like cockroaches, no matter how many you stomp on they keep coming back again and again
reminder that the meme 12 and pac 12 haven't won anything in a fucking decade
How pathetic
>>64480986
>b-but he won the heisman
>i mean he d-deserved it at least
