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to those who still defend LVG
why?
to those smart people who want him out
who do you want replacing him?
rip
alan curbishley la
1st for /a/
Honest question, would you want Mou?
why do u bother m8, u know its gonna be filled with abu
>VAN LAAL
>A
>N
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>L
>A
>A
>L
do you give out presents on Boxing Day or Christmas Day in the UK?
giggs
t. ABU
>K E K K E K K E K K E K K E K
PARDEW
A
R
D
E
W
David Moyes: P51 W27 D9 L15
LvG: P72 W36 D19 L17
Moyes 1.765 points per game
LvG 1.764 points per game
>THE SHITTY OF MANURE
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
MOUYES
Lang Baal was always a hack.
>2 points from the last 15 possible
>singing Jose Mourinho
HAHAHAHAHAHA
PATHETIC """"""""""CLUB"""""""""
>man chest hair untied
FAGS LOL
ENJOY THE YUROPA LEAGE
>Bunker
That implies there is anything left worth salvaging, and you'll happily defend the current state of United.
Why hide? Just accept the club is in disarray and fucking dire right now. Board/Coach/Players. All fucking dreadful.
HAPPENING >MOUYES HAPPENING
Do you miss Moyes?
lol
moyes had more points after 18 games
MOU WHEN
can't we just move onto the age where United stop being top dogs? About time they fuck off.
What were they chanting briefly after the Jose Mourinho chants?
JOSÉ MOURINHO JOSÉ MOURINHO JOSÉ MOURINHO JOSÉ MOURINHO JOSÉ MOURINHO JOSÉ MOURINHO JOSÉ MOURINHO JOSÉ MOURINHO JOSÉ MOURINHO JOSÉ MOURINHO JOSÉ MOURINHO JOSÉ MOURINHO JOSÉ MOURINHO JOSÉ MOURINHO JOSÉ MOURINHO JOSÉ MOURINHO JOSÉ MOURINHO JOSÉ MOURINHO JOSÉ MOURINHO JOSÉ MOURINHO JOSÉ MOURINHO
>>64454629
I think it was the Stoke fans singing to be desu
>>64454527
LOOK AT ME
I'M THE TRIPFAG
I MUST BE THE ONE WHO MAKES THIS THREAD AFTER EVERY GAME
PLEASE GIVE ME ATTENTION
who here /ABU/?
isn't it about time glen hoddle had another job?
>>64454527
>throw away David "modern day saint" Moyes
>replace him with a Dutch hack
>be surprised it all goes to hell
>>64454575
Christmas day. Boxing day was traditionally when house servants would receive theirs from the family they were serving.
>who do you want replacing him?
if I could have anyone, Klopp. of those available
>Pep
or
>Simeone
Bring back Moyes
Loving how United "fans" unironically want Mourinho to take over kek
They are willing to accept "Mr. Chelsea" not because of his playstyle or management skills, but because he has a reputation of winning
United "fans" go on about the "United way" of attacking football and playing youth, but under Mourinho that would essentially be all over
Fuck Paki's and Indians are a fickle and fair weathered bunch, next thing they'll be eying up Wonga after they fire Mourinho
United are too far gone, they are literally the new Liverpool
kek
KEK
K E K
>>64454646
here la
>>64454572
fuck no
hate that people are suggesting this seriously, it's fucking sacrilege
>>64454656
so besides football what are the traditions of boxing day?
>in 2 hours, Leicester could be 12 points clear off Manure by Christmas
DO IT FOR THE MEMES
>Poopy van Shitpoopshartscut
gf's son didn't like the bike i bought him
>>64454661
>pep or simeone available
m8
>>64454655
dont forget
>fans still insist moyes was worse because he hasnt won anything in the past
>Last win was 21 nov
JUST
could be 7th if watford beat chelsea today
>>64454648
His views on disabilities would see him invent a time machine to abort Rooney in utero. So it would be better.
should have hired Mourinho after Ferguson desu
>>64454672
I just need him to show up at old trafford on monday
4 DEFEAT IN A ROW
ABU WIN AGAIN
VAN LOOOOOL
people I feel bad for: 1. Wayne Rooney; 2. Louis Van Gaal
Joking aside, Giggs will probably take over.
>>64454666
The press wants mourinho, we don't
>>64454703
>if
>>64454666
no one wants Mou, lad
>>64454594
He's played loads more you slag no point in comparing
>>64454705
Fergie wanted him or Pep, Manure high-management supposedly didn't.
It's sad that I miss Louis >van Draw games
>>64454666
united fans will claim 'WE DON'T CARE ABOUT RESULTS IF THEY PLAY THE UNITED WAY' until they start losing. united fans are incredibly entitled and will act like finishing 6th is the worst thing a football fan has ever endured
>>64454684
>by Christmas
PULIS
U
L
I
S
>manure
>>64454747
You don't know any united fans, do you?
>>64454749
>tfw Christmas is already over
;_;
>>64454716
>I feel bad for a fat, lazy, cheating bastard earning £300 000 a week
>>64454666
Trips of truth.
>>64454527
I could defend him a month ago when we were playing shite football, even when we went out of the CL. But not now, we can't even defend now.
>>64454747
"The United Way" showed today, 40 minutes in, when Arnautovic lay on the pitch with an injury while United played on.
>>64454774
He never leaves the house so his opinions come from the internet.
>>64454719
>Joking aside, Giggs will probably take over.
Which will be another GUARANTEED flop, just like Zidane on Halal.
The only attacking player who ever made a great manager was Cruyff.
You'd be better off with Gary Lelville (who is already beginning to flop at Valencia but at least has a valid reason in the language barrier).
>>64454666
PLASTIC MANURE FANS HAHAHAHAHA
>fans, squad and ex players force out moyes
>fans, squad and ex players force out van laal
>fans now want mou, an expert in getting forced out by players and losing dressing rooms
this can only end well.
either appoint one of the class of 92, because theyd be given time/the ex players wouldnt backstab them, or get a young up and coming manager that will bring stability. mou is everything united shouldnt get
>>64454527
where were you during the Bournemouth match?
I even had to make the ABU bunker thread
>>64454527
>Stupid mistake from Memphis
>Wonder goal
Remind me how this is LvG's fault? Should he have telepathically predicted the ball's flight and pre-warned de Gea so he could dive 5 seconds earlier and stop the ball?
Should he have predicted Depay's mistake and warned him before the game to chest the ball and then clear it rather than heading to an opponent?
How the fuck is this LvG's fault?
>>64454840
holy fuck
>>64454784
yeah, we haven't been impressive all season but we stuck with it because we were getting results
now that we're not getting results, LVG has nothing left to stand on. he has to go.
we had an amazing opportunity to top the table and we fucking blew it by losing to norwich, bournemouth and stoke.
>>64454866
sorry m8 I was out
I went to the norwich game too which was painful
enjoy the wine and a mince pie
>>64454894
did you miss the rest of the game or is football just about the goals for you?
not too late to switch
>>64454898
>he has to go
Glory hunting plastic. Why aren't you standing by your manager?
You think your lack of support is going to somehow help LvG and his players? No it's obviously going to have an even worse effect.
https://twitter.com/GaryLineker/status/680758969988702208
>>64454941
>having to recruit new fans because your stadium is so empty
>>64454920
Football is literally all about the goals. Score more than the opponent and win the game. That's all there is to it.
>Fellaini missing form a yard
Are you saying LvG told him to place the ball right next to the keeper?
Don't know why people are suggesting giggs, he was assistant to Moyes and to van lall and both terms have been absolute shit. If it was any other assistant they would be gone already so he doesn't deserve the job, let him go get Swansea relegated
I love that there's been zero narrative about players not trying to force the manager out
everyone realises they are just shit
>sky pundit
>says united crowd were chanting for mourinho
I think that's pure bias. It was most likely the stoke fans. They were singing bants all game.
>>64454963
>le empty stadium meme
doesnt matter if we're shit we've got a stadium full of southern day trippers and gloryhunting pakis la
>>64454941
Would rather shag a bucket with a big hole in it than be a City fan for just one minute.
Also, mate, you're from the Netherlands, you'll never be considered a real City fan. Never. No matter what you do, how long you 'support' them for or anything.
You will ALWAYS be known as 'that Dutch bandwagoner'
Let that sink in.
:^)
>>64454941
>Buy One Get One Free
>>64455010
you sure sound analpained
>>64454954
how's one fuck on an anime image board going to affect the team
I tried sticking with this team but this is too much. we're fucking boring and now we're giving out points to everyone we face. how can I stand by that? do I just have to accept this shite and pretend that I think LVG will turn this around?
we've been awful all season. LVG has spent so much money and we're going backwards. how can I defend that?
>>64454980
it is about the goals. it's also about how you create those goals. we played like complete shit in the first half and only started getting chances once stoke backed off. it's the same shit every week, all these teams are following the same blueprint of getting a result against united and it works far too easily
>>64455010
there's no need to be so upset
>>64455010
>manure 'fan' lecturing about bandwagoners
YOU
CAN'T
MAKE
THIS
UP
COME ON CITY
>van gaal gets sacked
>giggs is interim coach till summer
>in summer pep comes in
its a lock. bet the farm on it.
>>64454962
>https://twitter.com/GaryLineker/status/680758969988702208
How is this funny or even amusing in any way?
LvG, rightfully, asked for an apology from journalists saying he had already been sacked. They printed lies and slander about him and was rightfully upset.
He didn't say the media aren't allowed to criticize...
There's a difference between having an opinion and flat out telling lies.
Also, Lineker is a fucking knob.
>>64455064
Poop is already Shitty's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0HiuDV3UG4
vGaal will never be fired like this on live TV.
>>64455076
frustrated?
>>64455064
why would pep go to man u when he has all his buddies from barca at city
>we don't dare to play
What is he saying? Isn't it him who picks the squad, the tactics and the playstyle? Seems like he cannot accept his mistakes.
>>64455076
alright louis mate chilld out
>>64454894
I dunno la'
Lvg could have gone all unorthodox and told his players to actually try and score some goals. That way if we do ever make mistakes then we can still draw
>>64455042
>how's one fuck on an anime image board going to affect the team
Of course it does. Your comments influence others. They post on twitter. etc. etc. etc. It's a knock-on effect.
Support starts by backing your club and your CURRENT manager and CURRENT players. You support the jersey (or suit) not the man.
You fucking plastic.
LEWWWY VAN GAAALLLLS RED ARMY
>>64455099
not to mention a better squad, better youth academy, more money
manure fans getting desperate
>there are people who actually defend van laal
How? Please explain this to me. What has he done that makes you want him to stay so much?
THAT FUCKING STARE HOLY SHIT
>>64455141
man was PIISSSSSSED
DID YOU GUYS SEE THAT?
I can't even be bothered to laugh at you lot this time around. It's just becoming a regular occurrence that I keep looking forward to now.
>that rape stare
webm pls
>>64455064
Would rather have Mou than Pep t.b.h.
Mourinho is a born winner. Pep is a meme hipster coach like Klopp.
>>64455076
get fucked rag scum
>>64455130
oh right sorry mr top red. can't criticise the team no sir have to stick with this shit and be happy about it or else I would be a shit fan
>>64455136
he won the champions league 20 years ago
proven quality la
why does he keep looking at the camera
>that fucking stare
>>64455122
>Assuming that your team WILL make mistakes
Sounds very defeatist. I'd rather have a positive mentality from my manager.
>>64455076
toppest of banter
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
>That Alpha stare trying to scare the interviewer
>>64455064
>in summer pep comes in
>>64455164
>sorry
Apology accepted. Now fuck off. If I catch you posting your shit again I will take my belt off I swear to God.
>>64455197
A positive mentality that encourages no attacking threat whatsoever ?
SOMEONE GET A FUCKING IMAGE/WEBM OF THAT STARE
>>64454527
post feet tbqh
>>64455209
Anyone have an image?
>>64455235
https://twitter.com/search?f=images&vertical=default&q=van%20gaal&src=typd
>>64455213
>>64454941
Hate to break it to you, but that's not City's badge anymore. They swapped it for a more plastic, franchise 'brand' Blue Peter one you plastic kunt. Keep up with 'your' teams news.
webm of stare? I switched to the Lester v. Liverpoop's game
>>64455249
how does 6th feel¿
>>64455220
Untrue. Fellaini had a goal on a plate and still missed. There was clear attacking threat.
>tfw United are officially the new Liverpoop
Embrace he mediocrity and wallow in it ahahahaha
>>64455273
How does being so irrelevant that you cling to the 'rivalry' of a club in a different city and different country to your own in order to feel as if you are of some importance and actually matter?
https://vine.co/v/iAUIOW50lKj
video of that look
>>64455302
how does irrelevancy feel¿
>>64455294
Except United will sign Ronaldo and Neymar and hire Mourinho, whereas Liverpool sold their best players and signed Henderson and Woy.
United will win the treble in 2018. Guaranteed.
>>64455317
Yes, that's right, that's exactly the question that I'm asking you. So, how does it feel?
>>64455164
You sound like the delusional Arsenal 'fans' who blame Wenger for everything, but never praise him for anything.
>>64455178
He learnt from sharp facial features man.
>>64455340
enjoy van laal m8 :')
>>64455317
you tell us
>>64455216
s-sorry top red
>>64455346
except wenger has kept his team near the top, brought in good players and plays exciting football
van gaal has spent 250m and is yet again struggling for top 4
Mourinho never said a bad thing about Fergie or United in general, he clearly wants this job and now even Charlton has to let him lead United, desu.
>>64455352
Enjoy shaming your father and making up excuses to get out of your fortnightly trips to Utrecht :^)
who top 4 here
>>64454606
The ones signing were stoke fans dipshit.
I like to masturbate
>>64455401
>posting in an ABU bunker thread while ''''''''your'''''''' team is playing
You Man U fans should be grateful
Van laal will surely get the sack soon and after you sign Mou you will still have a real shot at the title this season
As a Chelsea bandwagoner all I want is Mou back at Chelsea
who champions league here
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>>64455375
>van gaal has spent 250m
And sold £120m worth
>Wenger
>brought in good players
LOL. Okay then.
>wenger has kept his team near the top
van Gaal got united from 7th to 4th in ONE season and is currently < 10 points away from our main title rivals despite an injury crisis.
Stop crying you spoilt cunt. Nobody will ever replicate what Ferguson has done at ANY club EVER. Get over it. This is football. Welcome to the roller coaster.
>this moronic teat putting the blame on the players not LvG
Who does the tactics?
Who motivates the players?
Who trains he players?
Who buys the fuckin players in the first place?
Who spent 250m on utter shite?
Who ruined several players by putting them in a shitty rigid system where they cannot flourish?
End yourself. Man United are not a big club any more
who raheem here?
>>64454666
What makes you think that United fans want mourinho? The ones singing his name were stoke fans taking the piss on Van Gaal
who pep here?
>>64455452
>Man United are not a big club any more
>>64455439
>and sold £120m worth
ah the net spend argument. funny how we made fun of arsenal fans for that exact same thing. he still spent £250m you absolute mong
>van Gaal got united from 7th to 4th in ONE season and is currently < 10 points away from our main title rivals despite an injury crisis.
a month ago we were 1 point behind first
now it's okay we're < 10 points away after facing west ham, norwich, bournemouth and stoke?
you are actually defending this. I'm surprised.
who league cup here?
>>64455452
>Man United are not a big club any more.
>>64455439
And Wenger spent £10m and is 2nd and has his own injury crisis.
The guy may be a senile old goat, but he's doing something right.
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>>64455355
who's that faggot?
United new Mou desu. He will get them back on track short term, will still be able to attract players and then will fall off in time for Giggs to become the long term successor. SAF wanted him and that's never gone wrong before
I was out in the sales, what happened?
Did Unted deserve to lose or?
>>64455512
>money makes you a big club
who /biggestclubintheworld/ here?
>>64455569
absolutely terrible first half, boring second half. probably deserved to lose.
>these plastic lmao
>>64455572
>earns
>>64455584
Fuck sake.
First time I've not abandoned plans to watch Utd because I knew it'd be shit and surprise surprise
>>64455501
>made fun of arsenal
No idea what you're talking about. Arsenal and Wenger have always done well in the transfer market. Nothing to mock whatsoever.
> he still spent £250m
It's actually £214 you mong, and I don't give a fuck if it were £214 BILLION. It's the clubs to spend and I hope we spend a hell of a lot more in the future. Investing in players instead of paying off debts is wonderful. Doesn't work out? Big deal. That's football. You need to take risks and spend big. That's the way of it these days. I hope we go for Muller, Bale, Neymar and Ronaldo this summer. £120-£150 million each ought to turn some heads. At least one of them has to work out with a bit of luck.
Now fuck off you mouth breathing spastic. It's like this is your first year of following football, I wouldn't be surprised if you started less than 5 years ago based on some of your ridiculous comments.
>>64455572
How the fuck do you earn that much?
>>64455550
The Dutch City bandwagonner.
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>>64455569
Stoke were great 2nd half and it should have been 4-0 to Stoke before the first United shot, but fucked up 1v1 shot and then a literal fall over stopped it.
United were better with Rooney on, but Butland made 3 saves, one fantastic one. It's funny, Uniteds 3 shots they made were on target and were saved.
>>64455572
That's one guy. Not a football club. City are poor as fuck compared to United.
Small time :^)
>>64455614
Oil and siphoning off 99.999999% of your country's wealth.
>>64455592
>these abus
With 250 mill spent results are expected. Sneaking into the CL last season only to get knocked out in the group stage, losing the players, failing against minnows in cup competitions and free falling in the league are enough to get anyone sacked. There's delusion and there's stupidity. LvG is done
>>64455602
so its okay to waste 250m because we have a lot of money? you should be a businessman
if you seriously think spending that much money and still looking like shit is nothing to be worried about, then you're quite frankly deluded
>>64455614
Basically his family owns oil and over the past 20 years or so has slowly invested it into many different areas. Tourism, aviation and so on.
The plan is by 2030 to be one of the richest businesses in the world. Plus links to Royal Family as well. Not Brit Royal Family, their sand nigger ones.
So, he literally does nothing and delegates roles to smart people who then get paid to earn money for him.
who biggest club in Manchester here?
>>64455668
talk about net spend.
>>64455627
>and it should have been 4-0 to Stoke
What?
Stoke only scored because Memphis made a ridiculous error and handed them it on a plate.
They were very fortunate to go into half-time in the lead.
>4-0
No idea where you're getting this from. But first half Stoke probably shaded it, second half United shaded it with Stoke looking lively on the counter.
A draw would have been a fair result.
>>64455697
If you go on Net Spend, then Arsenal are one of the greatest clubs of all time and it's only the purchase of Sanchez which has tipped them over profit on their deals since Wenger came in.
Nobody would care if united spent £500m a season if they won shit. The fact is, they're out of the CL and League Cup and are 10 points behind a team which could go 13.
>>64455668
It's not 250 because he sold 110 worth and also the squad needed an overhaul because ferguson left a VERY WEAK squad for >Moyes
Basically needed at least 8 new players as standard. So to get them for under 120 million, like LvG has done is quite an achievement
There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG with LvG's transfer activity and spending. He's done a brilliant job. He's brought in some great players.
>ok to waste
It's not wasted though you fucking retard.
>>64455766
the funny thing is, city spent more than united this summer and nobody even mentions them in the MUH SPENT TOO MUCH MONEY discussions
despite the fact they're a mere 4 points ahead of United....
typical anti-united bias then, nothing to see here..
>>64455816
we're 3rd in champs league in league cup
you're 6th and in none of those
:')
>>64455730
1st goal = 1-0
2nd goal = 2-0
3rd (possible) goal = 1v1 where Arc shot wide
4th (possible) goal = 1 defender to beat and he fell over
>>64455793
>brilliant job
>le memphis
>le martial
>le retired schweinsteigger
>le blind
>le dimarÃa disaster
>le chicharito gone
>etc.
>>64455793
why is it not 250? did other teams just give away their players for free? stop this shite about net spend. you sound just like liverpool fans being okay about spending 35m on andy carroll because they sold torres for 50m.
I agree the players he brought in are mostly good. only biggest failings are di maria and falcao, probably depay too if he continues being this shite. the problem is he spent all this money on these players and can't get them to play good football. these are HIS players, and after all this time we're still playing this boring sideways possession football.
he also made the squad far too thin. after the massive injury crisis we had last season I'd have thought he would have learned from it but nope. chicharito sure would be nice right now huh
>>64455816
they're 6 ahead of united actually
>>64455816
They don't moan because the money they've spent has been on players doing well. Sterling has scored plenty of goals and KDB has as well.
They're also in LC and CL and still within possibility of EPL, especially since Arsenal have the worst injury list of the Top teams currently and they always shit the bed.
>>64455850
Oh, so that's how it works.
>Fellaini missed from a yard
1-0
>Martial volley 16 minutes in
2-0
>Martial chance placed from outside the box, just saved
3-0
>Herrera effort from distance
4-0
>Depay free-kick bounced just before the keeper luckily got to it
5-0
>Herrera volley on the edge of the box, narrowly wide
6-0
>Mata chance late on, played through by Rooney
7-0
Guess it should have finished at least 7-4 then.
>>64455915
Except none of those were clear cut chances
Are you seriously putting Herrera's effort from distance there? The keeper easily saved it.
Fucking hell, you're the same guy who's always saying how Shaw is the best LB in the world and Martial is world class aren't you?
>>64455915
just quit watching football kid, this sport isn't for you
>>64454703
>implying not 'when'
>>64455944
>the same guy who's always saying how Shaw is the best LB in the world and Martial is world class
you mean the average united fan?
>pantilimon leaving us because he didn't want to sit on the bench
>now sits on the bench at sunderland
>next season will set on the bench in the championship
rekt
>>64455944
>>64455953
He's obviously being sarcastic to mock counting "possible goals"
>>64455816
Because pellegrini is a nice friendly old man unlike van laal
>>64455888
>you sound just like liverpool fans being okay about spending 35m on andy carroll because they sold torres for 50m.
But the difference is, we didn't sign a player like Carroll for £35 million....
We signed a player like World Cup winner, National Captain and Treble winner Bastian Schweinsteiger for £6 million.
>MUH DI MARIA
Only made a loss of around £18 million. And he was fucking shit. Nobody predicted how bad he would be in the EPL. Nobody.
>they're 6 ahead of united actually
Not when I made my post you daft cunt.
>>64455984
>having to post in here because no one wants to post in your dead threads
pathetic
>>64455999
hows that martial
>>64455944
How is the Stoke boy falling over about 46 yards away from goal with Smalling about 2 yards away from him a CLEAR chance?
Fuck off. Mine were clearer chances than yours.
>>64455997
Di Maria is just another example of how attacking players fail under LVG.
>>64455841
'we're'
go kill yourself
>>64456060
jij boos¿
>>64455991
This is genuinely the truth.
And the fact it's United, big bad United. Big bad United who have dominated football for decades. Big bad United who have been the bane of everyone's lives growing up as kids.
>>64456028
Yeah, that wasn't me. Fine. 3-0 then :)
Either way, United lost.
>>64456054
I'm inclined to agree with you, but he was still poor. He was struggling to beat men in the EPL. He was too weak. Not strong enough to power past them.
The point is that 99.999999% of people agreed di Maria was an absolutely fantastic, amazing, shockingly brilliant transfer AT THE TIME.
He was arguably the 3rd best footballer on the planet at the time.
>>64456100
7-3 you mean
>>64456147
>He was arguably the 3rd best footballer on the planet at the time
lel no, nobody has every argued such nonsense
>>64456147
>He was struggling to beat men in the EPL. He was too weak. Not strong enough to power past them.
But he was fantastic for a month or two. He was just an awful fit for van Gaal's sideways passing attack
>>64456147
In another system he would have worked wonders. Despite the fact that Di Maria played like shit, he still got like 15 assists for United, which would be unheard of right now.
Imagine him in a fast paced counter attacking team, he would have been absolutely ace. Instead he got forced into this possession football shite with no movement up front.
>He was arguably the 3rd best footballer on the planet at the time.
kek
>>64456017
Pretty damn good. Was good again today. Hard to believe he's just 19.
Wouldn't swap him for any City player that's for sure. Not unless you presented a 100% fully fit (and guaranteed never to get injured again Aguero) in his peak form.
Then and only then would I consider a trade. Even then, I think it'd be tough. Martial has a higher ceiling.
>>64456179
he was arguably 2nd behind messi
lot of people said he was better than ronaldo for madrid in that CL winning season
i remember arguing with a lot of people on here and i was saying ronaldo was better, so you're wrong
>>64454681
SALES BOIS
>>64456238
no, no, no. He was better than penaldo in CL and created the goal that turned the final around but he was never considered top 3 or top 2 or whatever in football. He simply wasn't, not even for a day.
>>64456238
>lot of people said he was better than ronaldo for madrid in that CL winning season
The only people who said that were the ones who only saw the CL final and assumed he played like that the entire season.
Protip: he did not
>>64454681
Traditionally fox hunts are on Boxing Day.
Boxing Day is pretty much a fallback Christmas Day for people who can't avoid work on the 25th.
Most people stay at home, maybe venturing out for a countryside walk, going to the sales is a more recent thing.
To those who are sticking with Van Gaal, explain why. What has he done so well this season?
I mean... At no point this season were we fun to watch, but at least it was working for a while?
We don't have two of our right backs (first and second choice), left back (First choice), two central midfielders (first and second choice), and Rojo.
Definitely not making a case for LvG, just pointing out at dur dur dur 200 million is kind of a dumb argument to make here. This boring, ugly soccer worked before all the injuries. The dinosaur just can't adjust for some reason.
And i've never gone into a game thinking "Yeah, were gonna lose today." First time ever.
>>64456341
>>64456342
>>64456395
Doesn't matter if you think they were wrong. A LOT of people were convinced. This is not up for discussion. It was a fact that many believed he was better (rightly or wrongly).
Therefore, what I am saying, that it was ARGUABLE is correct.
So I'm right. He was ARGUABLY the 3rd best footballer in the world.
QED.
And no, it doesn't take one deluded idiot to make something 'arguable' It instead takes CONSENSUS opinion across many different cohorts. And that was the case with di Maria. Pundits and 'experts' were saying similar things. Rightly or wrongly. After his transfer they were talking about how Manchester United have signed "One of the best footballers in the world" etc. etc. etc. etc. and so on and so on.
>>64456437
brought joy to ABUs such as myself
>>64456489
Thing is, even when we were winning we didn't look convincing at all except for that Everton away game. It always felt like it was a chore to get the results.
The biggest worry for me is even when we're losing with 20 or so minutes to go, I just can't see United scoring and getting back in the game. Our response to conceding is just so pathetic.
>>64455614
Oil and slave labour. If you want someone to blame, blame us greedy gas guzzling westerners.
>>64456497
>One of the best footballers in the world
literally said of every transfer made
Really, Di MarÃa was never considered top 3, not even once. He's a great player, like many other great players out there.
>>64454594
>Moyes signings - Fellaini and Mata
>LVG signings - Shaw, Rojo, Valdes, Di Maria, Falcao, Memphis, Martial, Schneiderlin, Darmian, Blind, Herrara, Schweinsteiger, Romero
Moyes can't be blamed when he received no help at all from the board when it came to signings.
>>64456723
See
>>64456497
You need to slow down and read every line clearly because it's all there. You clearly haven't done it yet because you are still struggling.
>chelsea losing
now we're 7th
>>64456754
>Moyes can't be blamed when he received no help at all from the board when it came to signings
Why do people still think this? Didn't they see his press conferences where he literally said the following:-
"Isn't it great when you're told you can sign any player? That there is no budget? I think it's wonderful."
Moyes was given 100% backing. He was given an UNLIMITED transfer kitty. He was told to go out and sign WHOEVER he wanted. Complete freedom. This is a fact. Both Moyes and the club (Woodward) confirmed this publicly MANY TIMES.
You're objectively wrong.
>>64456909
Who gives a shit? It's not about placing in the league it's about points. We're still just 6 points away from City, the only team that realistically can win the league.
6 points at Christmas is NOTHING. By January we could be 6 points ahead of them. No big deal.
Leicester will not keep it up.
Arsenal choke hard every single year.
Relax. If anything, it's good that Chelsea are still struggling because Chelsea are a more realistic title rival to us than Liverpool, Spurs, Arse or Leicester even with their awful start.
>>64456984
you don't think arsenal can realistically win it?
>>64456984
This. The fact City aren't on 45+ points is the only saving grace of this season. They're very catchable.
>>64456984
QFT!
>>64457002
Absolutely not. I think that even if United stick with LvG for the whole season they'll still finish above Arsenal.
Arsenal are the same every single year since 2004.
>Pretty football
>Get everyones hopes up before January/February
>Weak as fuck. Vulnerable. Mentally weak.
>Choke hard
>Injuries
>Finish 4th
>manure customers think LVG is the problem
hahahhahaha is there a more clueless fanbase out there? I don't think so
>>64456839
kek no matter how much you argue about it, Di MarÃa was never considered top 3, not even by his parents on his birthday. It's incredibly amusing how any player that signs for united suddenly becomes world class or top whatever.
>>64455135
You forgot class and history . . . Oh . . . Yeah. . . Never mind
>>64457215
I'll try again just because I'm bored.
1. Literally thousands of people were saying it. Including fans, /sp/ posters, Man United fans, Real Madrid fans, Barcelona fans, Pundits, SKY, the BBC.
2. I personally argued AGAINST di Maria being a top 2/3 footballer in the world. Because that was MY personal opinion.
3. I'm not a Man United fan. I support Villa and have no interest in helping Man United's cause
Hope this helps, I'm doubtful because you seem a bit thick. You still seem to think I'm trying to argue the case that di Maria was the 2nd or 3rd best player in the world when that's not even my own personal opinion.
>we didn't dare to play football
So, is he subliminally saying he's lost the players? Surely LVG, being the coach, should be the one motivating players, keeping them updated on tactics and positioning, and play-style during the games...
I don't get what he is saying. It doesn't seem as though the players have freedom enough outside of his tactics/philosophy to "dare to play" as he is suggesting.
>>64457381
Just because some people thought it'd be a good transfer doesn't make it any less of a failure. The people who make transfer decisions at a club like United are in that position (and are getting a lot of money for it) because they're supposed to know better than fans, /sp/ posters and Sky pundits
>>64457427
They just seem generally lost and confused about what he wants them to do.
>>64457113
>His job is to get the team to win
>He has unlimited money to bring in any player he wishes, any player he thinks will improve the team
>He has had 2 years to do it
>Literally, his job is to win
>He is not winning
How can it NOT be his fault?
>>64457381
>Literally thousands of people were saying it
kek, funny how none of them were in spain nor madrid fans, where Di MarÃa played every week and nobody ever considered him top 3 in the world or ever bothered when he didn't get a single ballon d'or nomination.
I don't care what you argue for or support, saying Di MarÃa was considered top 3 in the world when he signed for united is simply false. He was considered the best madrid player in that CL final, that's all.
>>64454894
>le only watch highlights united fan
How about LVG couldn't get their team to create chances and get a goal
>>64454908
Kek
>>64457462
Of course it was a failure, not trying to suggest it wasn't. Ultimately it's the manager's fault for making the wrong call.
All I'm saying is that LvG wasn't alone in thinking that it was a great transfer. It wasn't like it was some 'mad scientist' moment. It seemed like a pretty safe bet at the time.
>>64457574
>funny how none of them were in spain nor madrid fans
But they were. As stated in my post already. Again, learn to read. I remember a few Madrid posters on here mocking the idea that United could somehow sign their best player. A bit like the de Gea situation really... embarrassing for them.
>United fans actually have to support Arsenal just so Man City don't win the league
Top kek. You are now on board a train destined to fail hoping for another doomed club not to choke.
>>64457574
>I don't care what other people think
>It is a fact that other people thought what I thought
Wow. It's like you literally have brain damage. I imagine you breathing out of your mouth and mashing your keyboard with your fists like some sort of demented ogre. I'm actually impressed you are able to write so legibly thus far.
Fair play mongo.
>>64457712
least im not irish
>>64457574
di maria was comfortably madrid's best footballer, he was core to everything they did in an attacking sense, his drive from CM was key to madrid's attacking football, he was more important than ronaldo was even if he didn't score as many goals
literally every madrid and spanish poster on /sp/ was riding his dick that entire year
cry harder faggot
>>64457762
Check your ancestry.
>>64457667
you do understand that the fact that madrid fans didn't want to let Di MarÃa go doesn't make him top 3?
>literally thousands of people were saying it
no proof whatsoever
>I remember a few madrid posters on here
kek, really? is this all you've got?
>>64457833
delusion level: british
>>64457872
i'm part german part scottish
so you need to kill yourself
I've heard from a high-level source that Kane is a done deal in January.
>>64457895
you really can't make this shit up, and he thinks he is right
>>64457574
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2729685/Diego-Simeone-claims-Angel-Di-Maria-Real-Madrid-s-best-player-yes-Cristiano-Ronaldo-Gareth-Bale.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2784784/Angel-di-Maria-one-four-best-players-world-says-former-Manchester-United-defender-Gabriel-Heinze.html
http://talksport.com/football/why-manchester-united-could-be-about-sign-real-madrids-best-player-140822109365
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/aug/26/angel-di-maria-manchester-united-real-madrid-lionel-messi
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2975624/Angel-di-Maria-ugly-Real-Madrid-Galacticos-image-blasts-Barcelona-director.html
I could paste these all day. Just google it for yourself. Loads of quotes. Loads of difference sources. Spain. England. France. Germany. Argentina. Newspapers and media sources everywhere. Ex players. Managers. You name it.
There's hundreds. I'm not going to paste them all, do it yourself. I could go on and on though. This is just a small sample.
You are so fucking wrong it's painful. I actually feel sorry for you now because I've destroyed you so badly. I feel like I've beaten up a 4 year old.
>>64457886
The burden of proof is on you. It's well established that £60 million, Champions League winning footballer di Maria was one of the world's best players.
>>64457999
>british press
you really think any of that demonstrates Di MarÃa was top 3 when he signed for united? Some local press links? kek
>I've destroyed you so badly
lel, you need to do much better
>>64457951
Nice.
Think he'd work well with Martial.
Two best young strikers in the game. Exciting stuff.
>>64458110
Why would I read Spanish press? I don't speak Spanish spastic. Besides, if you read them you'd realise many of them concern Spanish people and Spanish opinions. Not British opinions.
This discussion is over. I've already won. You're now either trolling or retarded. Either way I have no interest in taking this further.
>>64458110
>Spain. England. France. Germany. Argentina. Newspapers and media sources everywhere
English obviously isn't your first language.
>>64458078
sorry, but it's the ones making the 'top 3' claim, a ballon d'or finalist, who have to demonstrate it.
>muh 60 million
>muh cl winner
gee, top solid arguments there
>one of the world's best players
it's not the same as saying top 3, don't change the subject
>>64458127
Back to basics.
4-4-2 with pacey wingers and Kane and Martial to finish off the chances.
>>64458183
>This discussion is over. I've already won. You're now either trolling or retarded. Either way I have no interest in taking this further
You have no arguements to back your claim, never had, so you declare yourself the winner and run away with the tail between your legs
>>64458239
again, where are is the proof that he was top 3 when he signed for united? Just some press articles? Is that it?
>English obviously isn't your first language
not even my second
>>64458351
i'd like to see
-----------------------back 5-----------------------
--------Schneiderlin------Schweinsteiger---------
-----Young-----------Herrera------------Martial
--------------------------Kane-----------------------------
perfect balance
>>64458390
Just need a replacement for young and that could be brilliant
>>64458390
>Young
Do you mean Neymar/Bale?
Apart from that I agree but we need more direct players who can beat a man. Peak Robben would be perfect. Young is fine for backup.
could be worse lads
https://streamable.com/2sj9
>slippy O
>>64458426
>>64458412
hivemind confirmed for truth
i honestly think LvG could make this work, especially if he gets Luke Shaw back
>carrick
>>64458390
---------------------de gea-----------------
--darmian--Laporte--smalling--shaw--
------------schweini----schneid------------
------mata---------------------------depay--
---------------martial--griezmann----------
>>64458479
>depay
>griezmann in that position
>no KANE
i am a fan of the grease man though
>>64458390
Schneid and Schwein isn't really a strongly competitive midfield.
As a non-United supporter, I'd fancy an opposing midfield to handle that fairly well.
Think that a more box to box guy should play there. Put Schneid against the top 8 and play Schwein against the bottom 11.
Means they have to go buy someone. They would probably be best served to get a middie who likes accelerating into the box so that Rooney's movement back into the midfield serves more of a purpose.
>Kane
Can you just fuck off already with wanting meme shite at the club. 50m for a player who has scored less than bottom league team strikers.
Vardy
Ighalo
Deeney
Mahrez
All cheap as fuck, and even players who have scored less than Kane (still a good feat 5-7 goals) were all much cheaper.
United need to stop buying utter shite. Either throw 100m at a legitimate world class player (Neymar/Bale/Lewandowski/Muller) and build around them.
They need a new poster boy. Rooney cannot be the club figure after this season. Build around a new main player, bleed in better youth, actually have a second team, have plausible subs, not players like Fellaini and youth players who will never make it.
>>64458479
>griezmann
>buying french meems
Kane is a far superior English meem.
>>64458516
>Schneid and Schwein isn't really a strongly competitive midfield.
u wot m8? it's fucking GOAT
the team barely conceded a single goal when those two have played together, it's solid as fuck, safe as fuck too, allows the front 3/4 to play with more freedom and guarantees 70% possession
them, degea, shaw and martial are the only bright points of this season
>>64458519
>Neymar/Bale/Lewandowski/Muller
>thinking united can get any of them when they can barely offer europa league
>>64454743
bollocks
>>64458519
>Kane
>Meme
Pick one
>Vardy
>Not a meme
Pick one.
>Kane
>Vardy
Pick one and PROTIP IT'S KANE
>>64454681
Turkey sandwiches la
>>64458519
>thinking kane isn't on the level of muller and lewadowski
fuck off lad
also, neymar and bale aren't INSTEAD of kane, they are AS WELL AS kane
>>64458519
Would much rather have Kane over Vardy, Ighalo and Deeney lad. Kane is much younger.
>>64458555
They said the same about di Maria and Falcao but they managed to sign them. And at the time, di Maria was arguably the 2nd or 3rd best player in the world.
And they didn't even have Europa league back then mate.
>>64458555
Money talks.
>>64458592
Good meme.
>>64458597
Never said those should be targets, but they're all top goal scorers this current season. My point is, that United are throwing too much money at "potential" and young players, when they need better scouting. Those players prove you do not need 50m for 20 goal a season striker.
>>64458519
>They need a new poster boy. Rooney cannot be the club figure after this season. Build around a new main player, bleed in better youth
You are the new Leeds.
>>64458615
>di Maria was arguably the 2nd or 3rd best player in the world
nice meme
Real couldn't get him out the door quick enough.
>>64458615
>And at the time, di Maria was arguably the 2nd or 3rd best player in the world
u cheeky basterd kek
>>64458686
and theyve won nothing since
kek
>>64458675
>that one butthurt and forever analpained irish poster who probably got the shit kicked out of him by united fans at school and got cucked by the girl he liked with a united fan who now spends his days on /sp/ posting in united threads furious with anger every day
ah, to grow up in cork in the 90s eh?
>>64458553
I saw Schneid, I read Schneid, I said it out loud. But I was thinking of Carrick the whole time.
Although I still think to be dominant, United will need an upgrade there, it certainly isn't their weakest point.
>>64458686
and look how well they did after his departure
>>64458698
He wasn't even a guaranteed starter at Real. That's like saying ISco is the 3rd best player in the World.
>>64458719
Yeah it needs depth. Carrick is old and Fellaini is shit.
>>64458719
yeah, nah, carrick has been poor this season
scheind is GOAT DM/holding mid but has been injured for the past 6 weeks (which has coincided with the worst form of the season and 4 defeats in a row)
[spoiler] lel [/spoiler]
VAN LAAL SACKED, PUT ON SKY SPORTS NEWS NOW
>>64458732
except it's not, it's more comparable to saying Suarez is the 3rd best in the world
or Neymar is the 3rd best in the world
those 2 this year were comparable to di maria during that year
Can a man u fan power rank their midfielders for me? ive not been watching much this season
>van laal's murderface at the end of the post-match interview
Oh wow, he wanted that interviewer to die
>>64458650
>Money talks.
Müller just extended, Neymar is in a treble winning team, who might become the first team to repeat it, Bale's just come back into form, and Lewandowski has an extremely controlling agent, who's planned out his entire career, the next step most likely involving Real. And they're all already well paid.
>>64458776
Official midfield (centre) power rankings
1. Schneiderlin
2. Herrera
3. Schweinsteiger
--power gap--
4. Carrick
5. Fellaini
>>64458766
FUCK.
RIGHT.
OFF.
>>64458702
I actually spend most of my time here in the arsenal thread. It's far too easy poking fun of United. Your club and fans are too pathetic and easy of a target.
Meanwhile Liverpool have a great young team and manager and things are looking incredibly bright.
>>64458748
he was actually fit since the norwich game but for some reason van stupid cunt laal would rather have carrick and fellaini in midfield over him
>games lost with schneiderlin
swansea A
>goals conceded
9
>games lost without schneiderlin
PSV A, Arsenal A, Wolfsburg A, Bournemouth A, Norwich H, Stoke A
>goals conceded
15
Be real, I don't watch Spurs, is Kane any good?
>>64458817
Yes. Even when he wasn't scoring early on this season he was still contributing to the attack.
Pochettino's done a great job at Spurs. Wouldn't mind him at United, though I'd feel bad because I have a soft spot for Spurs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq_sNYakRM4
my thoughts on the game
>>64458816
He won't deem him to have enough 'match rhythm' yet. There is no way LvG is retarded enough to overlook Schneiderlin. No way. I just won't accept that.
>>64458845
>not mrjoshiej
m8 pls
>>64458792
wtf does schweiny even do? i expected him to dominate the league and carry us and hes just so mediocre
>>64458872
joshiej is the best but he hasnt uploaded his yet
>>64458806
>things are looking incredibly bright
>still two points behind a club in crisis
>Ireland's Taoiseach
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixFQUpLnr3E
bleeding hell
i'm glad i'm pissed
>>64458816
To expand on this:
>Record with Schneiderlin
9 wins, 6 draws, 1 loss
23 goals scored, 9 goals conceded
>Record without Schneiderlin
4 wins, 1 draw, 7 losses (including getting knocked out by Boro)
16 goals scored, 15 goals conceded
>>64458984
Can you pull out the 16 matches Schneiderlin was there for?
>>64458766
>di maria
>11 goals in 52 (cup babby)
>neymar
>16 goals in 19 games
>suarez
>24 in 24
I see what you mean, m80.
int main {
char vanlaal;
scanf("%c\n", vanlaal);
if (vanlaal=='sacked') {
printf("Chelsea will lose.");
else printf("Chelsea will win.");
}
return 0;
}
>>64459018
PL: Spurs H, Villa A, Newcastle H, Swansea A, Liverpool H, Southampton A, Sunderland H, Everton A, City H, Palace A, Watford A, West Ham H
CL: Brugge H, Wolfsburg H, CSKA A, PSV H
Didn't participate in the league cup.
>>64454692
mueranse todos
>>64454840
muh dikk
>>64459071
Spurs, Liverpool, City, Palace, Watford, West Ham are the teams in the top ten, and they lost to Watford, drew CP, West Ham and City and beat Spurs and Liverpool.
I know there are a ton more factors than Schneiderlin, but playing devil's advocate, he's played an easier schedule, and the top ten teams he's only gotten 9 from a possible 18 points.
Nitpicky perhaps
>>64459068
shouldnt that be char[] or string m8
>>64459232
United beat Watford m8
>>64459250
You're right, migraine is killing my ability to think
rrrreeee
Manchester United @ManUtd 52m52 minutes ago
Michael Carrick: "We need to do better. It's as simple as that."
>>64459250
12 from 18 from the top ten isn't that bad then. Without him they have lost to Stoke, drew Leicester, lost to Arsenal to get 1 point from a possible 9 from the other three teams in the top ten.
That's pretty shit
>>64459068
Baby first CS class
>>64459342
It is, but it's not entirely down to Schneiderlin. He just brings that much needed stability in midfield. Teams just easily run through the midfield without him. It's just that the attack still needs major improvement, just need to turn those 0-0 draws into 2-0 wins.
>>64459456
They've got to do it this winter, because when that new TV deal kicks in during the summer, and Man U continues sputtering around, their purchasing power for players is going to take a hit.
>>64459068
>if char==string
sack van gaal, get jose
get rid of deadweight like Depay
sign Bale and Kane
there, I fixed United. Literally that easy
>Call out media for preemptively stating you were sacked when you weren't
>Ask for an apology
>Go out and absolutely shit the bed next match out
There is no way he doesn't get sacked after this one right? Or do the board let him get raped by Hiddink and Chelsea too before dropping the axe?
>Daaaah my beloved team is in tatters and I'm about to lose my job, epic lolz!!11
>>64455793
as a fellow ABU good posting buddy
>>64456919
yeah he wanted a team of fellani's:
-----------fellani-----------------
-fellani-fellani-fellani-fellani
----------fellani-fellani---------
-fellani----fellani--------fellani
-------------fellani----------------
did you see the club backing him by investing in the necessary cloning technology? Because I sure didn't
>mfw I just saw the highlights
holy fuck, what was memepiss thinking?
>>64461474
More importantly why the fuck was he at LB in static play
>>64462678
PHILOSOPHY
>>64454777
Who are you referring to?
Arsenal losing
lol
Manchester City are winning the league
lol
>van Cuck
>>64460045
>flag
>topic
>Chikorita: 11 league goals, 5 CL goals this season
>Rooney, Depay, Martial, Mata: 12 league goals, 5 CL goals this season
>Van Laal
YOU USHHED TO CALL ME AWN MY SHELLFONE
EHH LATE AT NIGHT WEHN YOU NEED LONG BALLS
AHND I KNOW THET HOTLINE BLIND
THET CAN ONLY MEAN ONE THING
Mou when lads
>>64457999
I can tell u never watched any of real madrid games.
Di maria was by far our most inconsistent player. Before his cl heroics he was flopping hard day in day out in laliga and at one point the fans were booing the shit out of him. The only you british clowns ratehim so well is because of the cl final and because thats the only thing you britfags are good for, overrating players.
>>64459063
>judging a player on goal stats
>>64465694
Good job
God effort
