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Bama.
2. Oklahoma
3. Iowa
4. Clempson (Very insecure about their school and their ranking btw)
5. Nebraska
6. BootyBlasters
7. Northwest Missouri St.
8. Jacksonville State Gamecocks
9. Harvard
10. Navy Semen.
Good Thread OP.
Ivy League/10
1st for MSU beating OSU/UM in CFB/CBB
Quick rundown of who is still in the running for the B1G champ.
West:
Iowa has already clinched but still need to beat Nebraska to keep their playoff hopes alive.
East:
Michigan State is in the drivers seat win and they make the Championship game.
tOSU actually isn't dead if MSU wins and they win they make the Championship.
ALL HELL BREAKS LOSE EDITION.
IF MSU loses and Michigan wins "The Game".
Michigan will make the championship game.
>>63724103
*tOSU actually isn't dead if MSU loses and they win they make the Championship.
I just keep doing that.
Iowa fan here. How much you want to bet MSU replaces OSU in the top four?
Not really an offense as long as there is a big ten team in the top four Iowa will make it in when they run the table.
Asked this last night and never got a good breakdown....how the hell is Nebraska going to win? The ONLY way is turnovers, which Iowa does not give up easily. That is the only path I see to derail Iowa until the cfp to be honest....
>>63724338
It would take some Minnesota-level spaghetti for Iowa to lose next week
>"How we lost, I just feel like we weren't put in the right opportunity to win this game, we weren't put in the right situations to win this game," Elliott said. "I don't think Michigan State was better than us. They weren't. We didn't execute."
>"I don't think Michigan State was better than us. They weren't."
>"We didn't execute"
What the fuck does he think 'better than' means? The MSU defense shut them down, thus explaining why they didn't execute.
>>63724442
Nigger nigging about how his coach held him back even though everytime he touched the ball he was stuffed.
Can't wait for him to be exposed as the bust he is.
>>63724467
But mah heisman!
>>63724338
It really doesn't matter as long a B1G team holds the spot especially considering the odds are good the B1G chip is going to be between two top 5 teams. Barring Michigan falling in and Iowa losing to Nebraska.
>>63724496
Go away E!SPN no one actually gives a shit about the Heisman popularity contest.
Official French Who's In?
1- Clemson
2- Alabama
3- Michigan State
4- Oklahoma
First Out
5- Notre Dame
6- Iowa
7- Baylor
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/11/21/9776604/ezekiel-elliott-ohio-state-coaches-michigan-state-play-calling
https://instagram.com/p/-XeAeQJgk0/
Has any team self-destructed as fast as the Cumeyes?
>>63724511
fucking this
I hope the Buckeyes are enjoying Shawn Watson. We dealt with his shit vanilla playcalling for several years at Nebraska.
>>63725160
Shawn Watson is at Texas Senpai.
He was so bad here he was already demoted earlier in the season. Keeping crackpots like him around is the reason Charlie Strong will get fired.
nth for Northwestern
>>63725160
You're thinking of Beck
I'm just hoping this trend of OSU players mentally checking out continues...
>>63725274
You're right, my bad.
Is Luke Falk still sleepy?
>>63725617
Yeah, Patrick Mahomo confirmed season passing yards leader next week.
Why should ND drop out of the Top 4 when OSU remained in it all those weeks, even with like 7 point wins over Northern Illinois and Indiana?
Oklahoma in the SEC when? They were basically Confederate land, much more so than Missouri.
As much as I enjoy laughing at LosSU, do Tigerfags actually want Les fired? If they do, who would replace him?
>>63725974
No, fuck off.
You're stuck with Missouri and A&M.
The entire Big 12 was happy to see them gone.
>>63726212
Can Clemson join the SEC?
Please get us out of this Yankee apehoop conference
>>63726470
They would probably take them.
And you get UK and other solid CBB teams in that division.
>>63726551
Great
I can't wait for them to leave
I'm tired of games against those Yankee schools
>>63724338
>how the hell is Nebraska going to win?
Huskers offense will probably be able to execute, so defense needs to do literally anything. I'd say if Armstrong doesn't throw picks, and defense can keep Iowa from touchdowns a few times, Nebraska will be in it.
We all know this is exactly how things will play out
>Clemson wins the ACC undefeated
>Alabama wins the SEC with 1 loss after turning Florida's asshole inside out in the SEC champ game
>Mich St wins out and wins the B1G"10"
>ND beats Stanford, Pac-12 re-confirmed for dead
>OU wins the BIG"12" after beating OSU
>Baylor beats TCU
>Big "12" confirmed dead because it cannibalized itself and refused to have a champ game
1)Clemson
2)Alabama
3)Sparty
4)ND
----------KEK LINE BEGINS----------
5)OU
6)"The" Ohio State "Nuclear Meltdown" University
7)Baylor
---------KEK LINE ENDS----------
All others are irrelevant
>>63726934
ND will lose to Stanford allowing Oklahoma in. Cap this post.
>>63726802
Iowas offense has had a couple 90+ yard EIGHT minute drives. How exactly is nebraska going to score enough to win if they do not get turnovers?
What all of Iowas haters fail to realize is HOW SMOTHERING Iowas offense is. They get a lead and just burn clock better than anyone. You sit there as an opposing fan going,"if we could get the ball back we would beat this shitty Iowa team"; thirty minutes later you see the ball again and Iowa is now back up ten points (again).
Time of possesion and turnover margin is the great equalizer. Iowa does not care how "elite" your players are, their o line is more so and is not going to let you smell the field more than once or twice a quarter.
ESPN GameDay going to Stillwater next week.
>>63726976
This is actually the most likely. Now let's see how it gets all blown up in 1 week.
>>63726984
Nebraska has a strong run defense. It's probably the only thing they do really well. Their big problem is giving up big plays.
>>63726934
You're forgetting Iowa. If they win out and win the B1G there's no way they don't go to the playoff. I can see them fluking out a win over MSU.
>>63726984
I think you forgot that Iowa has played L I T E R A L L Y no one
>>63727045
>implying Nebraska is somebody
>>63727004
Should I go there and hold a sign with muh power rankings?
http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa/football/polls/coaches-poll/
1. Clemson
2. Alabama
3. Iowa
4. Notre Dame
5. Oklahoma
6. Michigan State
7. Baylor
8. Ohio State
9. Florida
10. Oklahoma State
>>63727317
Florida ahead of Okie State
Please...
>>63727317
11. UNC
12. Stanford
13. Michigan
14. Florida State
15. Navy
16. TCU
17. Northwestern
18. Oregon
19. Ole Miss
21. Houston
22. Miss St
23. UCLA
24. Temple
25. Utah
not sure what happened to #20 senpai
>>63727041
I'm not forgetting Iowa, they aren't listed because they aren't going anywhere
>>63727372
>not sure what happened to #20 senpai
Harvard.
They're underranked desu
>>63727004
Sure wish it were under better circumstances...
there is really no point in arguing about iowa or michigan state. whoever wins out will make in in the top 4 at the end of the season
Who you niggas got? Temple anon here so I got my guys from Portland State.
>>63727549
they're been no point in arguing about any of the rankings so far when the rest of the games still decide it
>>63727512
So do I. But Okie State still can win the Big XII and go to New Year bowl. Kind of unexpected at the beginning of the season desu senpai.
>>63727549
>implying Sparty won't lose again and Michigan won't win out and buttfucc Iowa in the B1G championship and completely fuck over the B1G's chances of making the playoffs
>>63727621
I got Jacksonville st.
I like Sam Houston as well. They're my sleeper pick
And as always I think Harvard would Bootyblast all of them.
>>63725775
they shouldn't but everyone on /sp/ hates ND
So if OSU wins in Bedlam, is BIGXII finally kill?
If you want a picture perfect lesson on how to waste offensive talent re-watch the OSU-MSU game
If you want a perfect lesson on how to maximize offensive talent re-watch the MSU-OSU game
1 Clemson
2 Alabama
3 Iowa
4 Oklahoma
5 Michigan State
6 Notre Dame
7 Ohio State
8 Baylor
9 Stanford
10 Michigan
11 Oklahoma State
12 Florida
13 Florida State
14 Navy
15 North Carolina
16 Northwestern
17 Ole Miss
18 Oregon
19 TCU
20 Utah
21 LSU
22 Mississippi State
23 Washington State
24 UCLA
25 Houston
>>63727621
Ivy League being out I get, since they're an ancient society, but it's funny as hell that in this day and age the HBCU schools still play their own tournament.
>tfw nebraska will have beaten each of the b1g championship contenders
>>63728193
>>63724338
If Iowa wins out you will probably be in. Right now there is no one in the natino that deserves to be over OU or Baylor outside of Clemson and that is legitimate fact. Oklahoma has stifled 3 of the best offenses in the nation. Last night we lost our QB and not one, but BOTH of our starting Running backs (combined for 277 on 33 carries thats 8.3 ypc) went down within minutes of each other.
Running backs came back later on but losing those 3 all at once really sucked the life out of the stadium.
If Baker stays hurt then Iowa or Baylor should get the playoff nod, Trevor Knight is the worst fucking QB in the conference and that is including backups. How Josh Heupel managed to recruit two guys who can't throw the ball at all for an air raid offense is beyond me
>>63726934
ND isn't getting even with a win against Stanford because Stanford, like everyone else you've played, is a nobody
>>63726984
I watched you guys play yesterday and you would be a 5 loss team in the big 12. Your offense is slow and cumbersome, you don't have the athletes to compete a real team which is why you're ranked. You haven't played anyone.
Fucking tOSU is the most overrated team in the nation and they play in a tougher division than you do
>>63728147
ND and MSU deserve to be in over Iowa. After LSU an tOSU there is no way an Iowa that hasn't beaten a top 15 team gets in
>>63728436
But they'll have to beat one in the B1G championship, so this is a moot point.
>>63728436
it doesn't matter because iowa will be exposed in the b1g champ game
>>63728147
>Iowa beats a bunch of literally who teams
>MSU beats Ohio State
>Iowa rocketed into the playoff spot that's practically guaranteed to a B1G team
>does no real work, gets all the reward
>>63728147
>putting us at 7
T..thanks.
>>63727064
>beaten the #1 team in the B1G
>not somebody
They have more quality wins than Iowa
>1 score wins over Wisconsin and Minnesota
>run it up on a Northwestern team that was still anally ravaged from the Michigan game
>>63728586
It was a very flukey win, but nonetheless it was a win. Unlike Michiganfags I don't cry over spilled milk.
>>63727621
Why don't Ivy League teams play in it?
It seems less disruptive than March madness
>>63727621
UNI is on fire at the moment.
I've been memeing that Iowa is legit since week 4. I'm so surprised that they aren't at 3-4 losses right now.
>>63728751
They play fewer games each season.
>>63728398
Fuck you.
The big 12 is awful outside of OU.
Your "offenses" would not see the fucking field because your defenses are a joke.
I cannot wait for bowl season. Big ten justice is coming.
Where's that UNC shitposter
>>63728944
Glad you agree, so enjoy bringing in Kansas and OU when the B12 inevitably collapses.
>>63728398
The big 12 is arena football faggot.
>>63728986
good morning
>>63728944
>I cannot wait for bowl season
>Get humiliated by a Tennessee team that was laughably worse than the one OU beat last year in your bowl game
>Get humiliated by a Minnesota team that was trounced by TCU
>Only bowl win in 5 years was a 3 point victory over Missouri
Yeah no we'd own that ass....again.
>>63728436
They will have beaten two top 15 and have a schedule against opponents with a winning record. Something ND cannot claim asshat.
>>63729099
The number one ranked team in your conference couldn't generate 150 yards of offense on a team that lost to nebraska whose lost not one, but two OOC games to teams that are beneath 500.
Kill yourself and congratulations on the Big 10 not even being in the playoff. You realize that tOSU being the most overrated team in the nation just KILLED your conference right?
>>63729164
>Last year big 12 fan.
Hey remind us all how well OU does in high pressure games oh mighty big 12 powerhouse fandom?
>>63729252
If what you took away from that game is that the big ten sucks then you are a window licking retard.
>>63729252
I'm with you in that tOSU a shit. However,
>implying Nebraska's record is remotely indicative of their quality this season
Coaches Poll
1 Clemson (58)
2 Alabama (5)
3 Iowa (1)
4 Notre Dame
5 Oklahoma
6 Michigan State
7 Baylor
8 Ohio State
9 Florida
10 Oklahoma State
11 North Carolina
12 Stanford (T-12)
13 Michigan (T-12)
14 Florida State
15 Navy
16 TCU
17 Northwestern
18 Oregon
19 Ole Miss
20 Washington State
21 Houston
22 Mississippi State
23 UCLA
24 Temple
25 Utah
>>63727621
>playing your national championship game at 11 am
>>63728436
>>63728496
>>63728509
>Iowa should be ranked high for something that might happen should our conference do a complete 180 and not be filled with complete shitters.
You're only ranked win of the season is NW and you think belong in the top 5. The is a fuccking joke right?
Look at your competition. Look at how pathetic your schedule is, and then realize that your numbers are TRASH for such an easy schedule.
OU's defense gives up one more point a game and we've played 3 top 10 offenses and an additional top 30 offense .
You have played NO ONE and your numbers are still shit. NOT A SINGLE TOP 20 OPPONENT..
Oh, and our common opponent? Yeah we put like 600 yards and 55 points a team you scraped by. Good day.
>>63729579
>giving iowa a first-place vote
>>63729579
>Iowa (1)
>>63727621
Go UD
Go Go UD
>>63729579
>Iowa and ND over Oklahoma
>Bama even ranked
This is why there needs to be an 8 team playoff. 3 of the 4 teams in top 4 have no business being there. Literally none.
>>63729708
Maybe just maybe the bug 12 has "top offenses" because they are all fucking awful teams. Baylor let LAMAAR score 21 point ffs.
>>63729579
>Michigan
>win on the road against PSU
>Still can't pass UF or Ok St
Dammit, this actually matters if UM beats OSU; gotta finish top 9 to guarantee at least a NY6 Bowl
>>63729803
>Bama even ranked
Nice try, faggot.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/fplus
>>63729819
>3 tds on 15 possessions is bad
K.
>>63729904
>http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/fplus
>quoting stats when your team plays an FCS team
Oh SEC, is this why you all have been winning your bowl games and OOC games? Oh wait.
>>63730264
>Has OU at 3
>Iowa barely ranked
Nevermind it's clearly a patrician list.
>>63730264
Doesn't include yesterday, pussy.
And losing bowl games? You mean the playoffs? Which your shit team will never even sniff?
Enjoy watching Bama coast to number 16, bitch.
Iowa is the biggest joke of a top 10 team. They have a pussy ass schedule.
>>63730327
It's based solely on statistics, moron.
>>63729579
>iowa(1)
yes, fuck yes. watch it all burn.
>>63730264
>>63729904
Why are Iowa and Bama so far apart statistically when their schedules are both piss? I mean at least Iowa has a win against a ranked opponenet
>>63730377
>Get blown the fuck out by a third string meme qb that can't throw
Calm down Kletus. We all know how Saban's daddy is.
>>63729579
>9 Florida
Also the fact that Stanford is tied with us is crap. Daily reminder that against common ranked opponents Michigan is averaging a +48 point differential per game when compared to Stanford.
>>63730513
>>63730513
Literally every team Bama has beaten is better than Northwestern.
>>63730513
bama lacks top tier opponents, but they don't have too much complete shit on their schedule.
>>63730571
That's not really gonna be a problem this year, is it Suckeye? Enjoy the Beef O Brady Bowl.
>>63730583
Probably. But the fact doesn't change that with LSU and Wisconsin nose diving out of the top 25 that Bama's only ranked opponent of the season was a loss.
Although I wouldn't be surprised if MSST gets pushed into the top 25 to inflate bamas sos (like they did with Wisconsin and Ole Miss)
>>63730635
I'm an OU fan and I really hope we catch you losers again. Bama is an easy win for our retarded noodle arm back up QB apparently
>>63730672
Again, the best team Iowa has played is Northwestern. End of story.
Schedules in the Big 10 are a joke to begin with and Iowa has played the easiest schedule in the conference.
https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/schedule-strength-by-other
>>63730610
Yeah I guess Vandy and the FCS team are really the only true shitters but still, I dont' understand how a team can have a top 4 ranking without a win over a top 15 team. Both Baylor and OU have this.
>>63730733
Oh you mean the game that was your Super Bowl and meant absolutely nothing to Alabama? Say what you want but you know its true.
Literally nobody thinks Oklahoma is good.
>>63730800
Bama didn't play Vandy, dumbfuck.
>>63730786
And? Northwestern is a better team than any team Bama has played, let alone beaten. And let's not forget that Iowa bent Northwestern the fuck over and gave them a good ol' corn-fed whiteboy dicking, beating them by 30 (thirty) points.
>>63730830
how shitty of a coach is Saban if he can't get his boys excited for a top tier bowl just because it isn't the championship.
Greatest recruiter of all time and nothing more.
>>63730913
>>63730913
>Northwestern is a better team than anyone Bama has played.
Literally nobody on earth but you thinks that.
The Big 10 is a fucking joke.
>>63730976
Maybe if your team didn't play for the Alamo Bowl every year you'd understand.
>>63730830
>Coach calls SEC overrated
>Goes into heart of SEC territory and embarrasses them on national television
>To this day, the SEC, almost 3 years later, has yet to win NY6 bowl. Including the MAC, the SEC is the only conference to have gone more than one year without winning a NY6 bowl.
Yeah we actually don't care. We always thought you were trash.
>>63730999
>Literally nobody on earth but you thinks that.
Literally nobody on Earth but you thinks that desu senpai
>>63731090
>>63730976
Like I'm not kidding, I hope we play you again. You and ND are basically bye weeks for a team like OU.
>>63730999
Alabama literally lost to a team from that conference last year in the playoffs lel. Muh joke tho right
>>63731085
how sad is it that you can be this much of a whiny faggot despite rooting for one of the more accomplished team in the last decade.
It's almost like deep down you know that rooting for a college football team doesn't make their success or failures yours, and at the end of the day you're just a sad pathetic sub human posting on a tibetan shadow puppet forum with the rest of us.
>>63731090
Again, nobody in Alabama including the players gave a fuck about that game. It's sad but its the reality. Losing it was embarrassing and set off a shit storm.
For Oklahoma it was the biggest game in a decade because they suck and never play for shit and can't even beat Texas when they're at the lowest point I'm their history.
It's reality.
I was hugely disappointed but obviously after being denied a trip to the ship the team didn't give a fuck.
>>63731303
Bama has nothing else to be proud of. The entirety of the states GDP goes to football because the state is too much of a shit hole for any other kind of special event.
Alabama is literally a third world country with a first world name.
When Alabama loses it basically ruins lives. Thats why their schedule is so piss easy and why the pay pretty much everyone to hype them up
>>63731303
>team sucks and rarely plays big games anymore
>someone points that out
>CLEARLY COLLEGE FOOTBALL IS TOO IMPORTANT TO YOU!!!!!!!
>>63730786
>that massive SEC dickriding
Have they beaten anyone decent OOC this year?
Anyway, Iowa will have to play a good team in the B1GCG. If they get that, they probably deserve #1 more than Clemson.
>>63731309
>after being denied a trip to the ship
I feel it man. I was enraged when Michigan was denied a trip to the ship in 2013.
>>63731414
I'm not even the OU fan, I'm just keking at your life right now to be honest family
>>63730999
Ole Miss lost to Memphis
the reigning Big 10 champ beat bama last year head to head when it counted, then slammed Oregon
The SEC is 1-6 in BCS/NY6 bowls the past 3 years
your best move to avoid looking stupid is to quietly stop posting. Bama has 1 win over a ranked opponent, this fact is not up for debate.
>>63731309
No the national title game was our biggest game of a decade and it was only four years prior.
To me beating ND in 2011 meant more than beating some overrated also ran has been from a media created conference. Saban has never won the Sugar Bowl so acting like its a shocker that he didn't this time doesn't make sense to me.
3 Sugar bowls. 3 times the favorite. 3 times embarrassed. OU didn't just destroy your legacy but we shattered the myth of the SEC and to this day you have not recovered. The game is meaningless, you're right. What that game represented for your conference can not be understated. People WANT to play SEC teams now. No one is afraid of you. No one respects you (except the media but then again you pay them for that).
You're going to be giftwrapped another NY6 bowl berth or better as a result of your top 10 ranking after losing to Ole Miss, especially since Florida has regressed so heavily.
Every other team that has lost the way Bama did has been jettisoned out of the top 10.
>>63731647
>being this mad
>>63731699
>iowa 3
why.jpg
>>63731699
>3. Iowa
Cue shitposting
>>63731647
>Every other team that has lost the way Bama did has been jettisoned out of the top 10
Oklahoma got their shit pushed in by Texas.
1. Clemson (55)
2. Bama (6)
3. Iowa
4. ND
5. OU
6. Michigan State
7. Baylor
8. Ohio State
9. OK State
10. Florida
11. UNC
12. Michigan
13. Stanford
14. FSU
15. TCU
16. Navy
17. Northwestern
18. Oregon
19. Ole Miss
20. Wazzu
21. Houston
22. UCLA
23. Miss State
24. Toledo(!)
25. Temple
>>63731699
This is a fucking joke. The CFP will have OU jumping them though.
>>63730999
See
>>63731699
apparently the ap thinks this
>>63730513
Because they are NOT far apart in the two most important catagories
1. Time of possesion
2. Turnover margin.
But hey, lets keep talking about how yards somehow equal points.
>>63731473
What the fuck did >we do in 2013? I assume you meant 2006
>>63731828
and Bama lost to Ole Miss at home. Stop acting like Ole Miss is a good team. They were way better last year and TCU, once again, demonstrated the SEC has no business being mentioned in a conversation about football
>>63731883
as do the coaches and the cfp
>>63726106
Mark Richt to LSU, Lane Kiffin to UGA, and Miles as Bama's new special teams coach
>>63731895
OM is light years better than Texas and nobody would disagree.
>>63731830
>19. Ole Miss
>Memphis unranked
>Mississippi State gets ranked for beating a 5-loss SEC team
Honestly what the fuck
>>63730672
Although I wouldn't be surprised if MSST gets pushed into the top 25 to inflate bamas sos (like they did with Wisconsin and Ole Miss)
>MSST ranked at 23
Holy fuck this is ridiculous
How is Iowa literally even ranked
>>63731891
>>63731973
Doesn't matter you lost and quality of loss is meaningless. OU has better wins, end of discussion, and it's absolutely ludicrous that MSST is ranked and WVU and TTU are not.
So We have 2 quality losses (Mississippi St and Grip n Sip) so basically its like were 10-1. why aren't we ranked? Thats how cfb rankings work right
>>63732075
I don't even care but MSU would wreck both those teams.
>>63731976
LOL dude wow
>>63732075
>quality of loss is meaningless
Other than this objectively being completely untrue, the committee evidently disagrees.
>>63731830
A down year for Oregon is 18th with three losses
And yet still the team has no national titles
My team's a bunch of fucking chokers
>>63731993
any team in a Power 5 that is undefeated deserves top 10. This Iowa shouldnt even be top 15 meme needs to die tbf
Why the FUCK isn't gameday coming to the iron bowl?! They're seriously going to skip out on Alabama again? Jesus I cant wait til the playoff when the SEC fucks up your shitty conference
>>63732180
>2014 FSU
>>63732142
It's a stupid consideration that should only be used to tie break or something
>>63732117
LOL the way they wrecked GT right? That 6 loss team from the second worst conference?
See I love this, because you all keep getting blasted in bowl games and OOC, you can't even pretend to be good anymore
>>63732181
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
>GameDay going to Stillwater instead of Ann Arbor
>>63732235
>not better than alabama
>>63732197
Yeah it will be the last two years all over again
>>63732235
they were a top 10 team. Anyone that says otherwise has absolutely 0 (zero) sports knowledge. If going undefeated in the ACC or whatever side of the B1G Iowa is on is so easy, then why doesn't it happen every year?
>>63732288
They went early this year. And desu Bedlam is more important this year than The Game.
>>63732240
the whole selection process this year is a giant tie break, and the committee has said they look at things like quality of loss and common opponents. I see people here claim those things don't matter, and those people are retards.
>>63732288
Think of it this way, Corso would have put on the winged helmet and Michigan would have gotten BTFO
>>63731442
Assuming that both Clemson and Iowa win their respective championships -
Clemson: Wins over ND(6), FSU(16), UNC(10?)
Iowa: Wisconsin(19) and MSU(5-6)
Clemson will objectively have the better wins. In what world should Iowa jump them?
>>63732499
Well aside from this shit show of a season sec cunts have used it to justify putting someone with more losses over another power 5
Like the virtual entirety of the sec being rated higher with "quality losses" for a large part of this season
>>63731830
>Toledo reranked
>Miss St. ranked
I'm glad the committee is in charge
>>63731976
>>63732122
tbf they were a fringe top 25 team who beat another fringe top 25 team while teams like Houston, LSU and USC lost to drop.
>>63732197
Blame Auburn for being 6-5.
>>63732288
I'm an OU fan and I'd rather see it in Ann Arbor.
If Mayfield plays this game is going to be a blow out and if he doesn't it's probably going to be a close loss.
Then again bedlam has cfp implications and the iron bowl and the game don't.
>Get BTFO at home
>Players shitting all over the coach
>2 of your best 3 players go pro with AT LEAST 2 games left in the season
Holy fuck has a team ever imploded faster than tOSU
>tfw OSU's only real hope at winning against OU is if Corso picks against them
>>63732712
No way is MSST better than TTU or WVU. Maybe they are fringe, but Toledo and MSST being ranked benefits no one but ND and Bama which is ludicrous.
Not that it matters, OU still has more and better ranked wins than both of them.
>>63731647
>No the national title game was our biggest game of a decade and it was only four years prior.
You mean the one where you 'all time greatest offense' that was putting up 800+ yards a game got shut down by an SEC team?
That was a big game for my school too! My school squeaked by Bama that year, and then Bama lost to (you)tah.
My school hasn't beaten Bama since.
>>63732712
And they're a good fucking team. Why can you retards not watch the games and decide how good teams are by using actual experience and knowledge instead of using the fucking transitive property and turning it into a dog and pony show?
Boise St. was undefeated how many times? Should they have been in the ship every goddamn year?
>>63732682
who the fuck else is there? After 16-18 it's a complete clusterfuck of mediocrity.
>both tamu and miss state lose to bama
>tamu beat miss state
>both beat arky, tamu gave up less yards and points
>miss state still ranked
>?
>>63732867
the eye test is subjective and we've seen year after year that it is misleading. Attempting to adhere to objective metrics isn't being retarded, its the opposite.
>>63732812
how does MSST being ranked help ND?
>>63732197
>yfw bama pulls another Ole Miss and chokes the game away to a talentless Florida team that can always pull a win out of their ass and then Florida finally gets dealt the blowout that they've deserved all season.
>>63733000
aTm got buttfucked by OM AND Auburn.
Auburn is shit.
>>63732867
>Boise St. was undefeated how many times? Should they have been in the ship every goddamn year?
yes tbhfam
Post yfw Auburn beats Alabama
>>63732180
Part 1: When an FCS team like North Dakota State goes undefeated, we give them a round of applause and their own trophy. But we don't even remotely consider that they could compete in the FBS. Iowa's schedule this year has been on par with an FCS team. I'm not hopping aboard the "le big ten sux XD" meme, I'm just pointing out facts. Iowa has not had to face Ohio State, Michigan State, Michigan or Penn State. The best team they've beaten has been Wisconsin, and if you actually watched that game you'd know that Wisconsin would have won if their dumb fuck quarterback didn't fumble the ball on a handoff with four minutes left to go at the one yard line. You know, looking back on it, pretty much every game that Iowa won, it wasn't so much Iowa outplaying the other team - no, it was the other shitty team finding ways to lose. Minnesota found a way to lose against them. Pitt found a way to lose. Indiana found a way to lose. Iowa is a ticking time bomb, just begging to be exposed the moment they play a competent team. It will be the same thing that happened last night with Ohio State... though to be fair, Ohio State looked decent in short bursts here and there. Iowa has not once truly great this entire year. Their offense is anything but explosive. Their defense is mediocre, and relies on the other team to turn the ball over due to their own incompetence. I really just cannot stress enough how mediocre Iowa's competition has been this year. You could place just about ~.500 team in the country in Iowa's position, and they would be undefeated. Period, end of story. Let's just look at the AP Top 25. Clemson? They'd be undefeated too. Bama? Hahaha. Bootyblasters, OU, MSU? Of course. Baylor, Ohio State and Oklahoma State? 100%. Florida? They're a meme team too, with some serious meme-ass wins, so they'd probably be undefeated as well.
>>63733115
aside from the auburn loss, they are both identical. aTm owns the head to head and is above state in the standings. miss state has no business being ranked other than making the egg bowl a ranked matchup (lel) and thus giving bama a better perceived sos
>>63732180
>>63733152
Part 2: North Carolina, Michigan, Stanford, Florida State, TCU... yep, all undefeated. And I don't want to hear shit on how Stanford lost to Northwestern; we all know that was a fluke as well. If they rematched today Stanford would win 48 to 0. The only reason Northwestern won was because the entire Stanford team got 4 hours of sleep the night before the game. Navy? They'd be undefeated with Iowa's schedule, meme offense included. Northwestern? Well, they technically shouldn't even be in the top 25 if you watched last night's game; Wisconsin won that game fair and square. Mulligan on Northwestern. Oregon? They aren't losing another game this season; they'd be undefeated with Iowa's schedule. Ole Miss? They beat bama, they could beat everyone who Iowa faced. Washington State? Meme team, but they'd get by just fine. Houston? Not only would they beat every team Iowa faced, they would beat them by more points. UCLA, Mississippi State? You kidding me? Of course they'd both be undefeated. And finally, Toledo and Temple. I'll be honest, it's a bit of a toss up. Toledo beat an SEC school, so they'd likely be capable of going undefeated given Iowa's schedule. Temple? Yeah, they're having a bit of a late season meltdown, but they crushed Penn State, and Penn State has more impressive wins over teams that Iowa has beaten, so I'd assume that they'd be alright. So there you have it, literally any team in the top 25 would be undefeated if they were granted Iowa's easy-as-fuck schedule.
>>63733036
This shit has MSU ranked 20 using legit metrics and statistics and that was last week before they beat a decent Arkansas team.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/fplus
>>63732180
>>63733152
>>63733203
Part 3: Iowa has next to no business being ranked, let alone appearing in the final four. The beauty of all of this is that week by week Iowa fans are getting more and more excited. They're really starting to believe that this could be their year. I love it, because if they somehow manage to get into the playoff and square off against Alabama, it will be an absolute bloodbath. Bama would win EASILY by 60+ points. They would maybe have to call the game off at halftime. Regardless of how overrated Iowa is in the coming CFB playoff poll, I can sleep well knowing that they will very soon be exposed on the national level. And it will be glorious. The salt from their tears could garnish movie theater popcorn for decades to come.
>>63724990
That list was the biggest bomb since Paris.
>>63733281
dont cut anyone with those forced edges m8
>>63733175
You obviously are new to this football thing
>>63733223
what's your point? I think they are appropriately ranked. That doesn't make "actually watching the game" a trump card.
>>63730423
i'm personally going to have to go with florida on that one, iowa right after
>>63733565
nice objective analysis faggot
>>63733603
Oh, I thought you were arguing against MSU being ranked at all.
Carry on.
>>63733152
>>63733203
>>63733263
tru desu
who you schedule is almost as important as who you beat
unless you're in the SEC because then none of that shit matters
>>63731830
we're back
>>63733812
It's not really Iowa's fault who they were scheduled with in the Big Ten. Their OOC is shitty, but so is literally every SEC team's... The biggest thing her is that they haven't played a single good Big Ten Team. In particular, the big three: MSU, Ohio State and Michigan. Iowa fans know full well that they would lose to any of those teams.
>>63733938
hoot hoot
>>63733938
>probably going to play Navy in the American chip
may god have mercy on your soul, owlfriend
>>63726212
No, the entire big 12 was not happy they left. Fucking Texas
>>63733977
If Iowa makes the playoff, they will probably set a record for worst SOS for a playoff team that will go untouched for years.
>>63728306
....you're fucking retarded. They didn't recruit knight for the air raid. They wanted to do a read option offense after Johnny Manziel embarrassed them in the bowl game.
>>63733977
well yeah OOC scheduling matters when you're not in the SEC
compare their schedule to OOC to say, USC who has Notre Dame and fucking Alabama scheduled in their OOC schedule next year
>>63727621
W&M all the way
>>63733768
i'll carry dat ass m8
>>63728751
In basketball, the Ivy League has by far the most entertaining regular season, since there's no conference tournament. The conference games feel like college football games, with every game counting. It's how it should be done in every conference tbqh.
>>63730830
What's going to happen if Alabama has to throw the ball? Will you at least admit that Alabama is awful at passing? If they meet a run defense, then game over
>>63734186
I like how you use Alabama as an example of a good OOC game but still claim SEC doesn't schedule OOC.
>>63734453
alabama schedules less cupcakes than the others normally, but I would still consider it an exception to the rule
>>63731973
Am I wrong in saying that the big 12 is 2-0 against the Sec this year? Against teams that Alabama barely beat?
Who's That SEC?
>lose 3 games in a row after being at the pinnacle of hype
>lose to hugh freeze at home
>lose to a mac team
>need refball to beat a bottom-tier Go5 team in OT
>hyped every year, muh recruiting, busts every year, needs OT to beat a sun belt team
>lose to an FCS team
>massive pre-season hype, busts almost immediately, spiritual loss to an FCS team
>give up 50 points to arkansas
And people are complaining about IOWA who has actually taken care of business and who NOBODY would have picked to do SHIT with this season. I'm not an Iowa fan, but fuck off idiots. You have about as much of a clue as the pointless reactionary ESPN articles that come out after every Saturday, which paint a completely different picture than the ones the previous week.
>>63732739
If you were a smart OU fan, you'd want the national spotlight
>>63730830
>Literally nobody thinks Oklahoma is good
Are you the same guy as >>63730999
>>63734409
Alabamas passing game is certainly not their strength. I wouldn't say its awful. Coker has improved every week since the OM game, has made less and less mistakes and has won a couple games for them with his arm. Couple that with the fact that they have Derrick Henry and are one of the top rushing teams in the country and I don't see why they would need to throw that much. Alabama never has needed to throw a ton to be successful.
And besides, none of their potential playoff matchups scare me much as far as being able to stop their run game. If Florida can't do it then Clemson or Iowa isn't going to. So we'll see.
>>63734618
>mfw at least 6/8 of these could be applied to 7 different SEC teams
>noface
>>63734409
Bama's passing game is mediocre, but it's not as bad as you think. and who is this team you envision being able to completely stonewall Bama's run game? OSU is the only team I could have seen doing it and they're probably out of the playoff now
>>63734618
>this ass devastated yankee
>>63734618
Iowa is good this year like Notre Dame was good in 2012. Ran the table against shit teams but will get rekt in a bowl game.
Prove me wrong.
What do you consider worse?
>Auburn almost losing to Jacksonville State
or
>Auburn giving up 34 points to Idaho
I consider fucking 34 points to Idaho worse
>>63734813
>who is this team you envision being able to completely stonewall Bama's run game
A) Meeeeeeeeeeechigan
B) Michigan State
C) Clemson
D) Notre Dame
E) All of the above
>>63734884
Notre Dame didn't play a shit schedule in 2012 big guy.
>>63734928
man, anons are really mad about Iowa
>>63734959
the problem with ND 2012 was they played B+ teams all year. lots of decent teams nothing that really would have tested their ability to play with a genuine title contender
Joe Paterno's sons sure are retarded
(Michigan had 13 penalties for 117 yards, while PSU had 3 for 30)
>>63734959
That was the memiest team in history and they got exposed in Miami. This is universal fact.
Any more hot takes?
Shittier division: Big Ten West, SEC East, or Pac-12 South? (Or what about ACC Coastal?)
Why do AP voters like Notre Dame so much?
>>63735137
You're being stupid though. They didn't play an incredibly easy schedule like you're positing. Yes, they got btfo'd in the natty. How does that retroactively make their schedule easy?
>>63735134
I think they fed Scott Paterno the children that Sandusky molested in an effort to get rid of the evidence
>>63735166
Cuz they booty blasted everyone this year. Specially Boston College, Clemson and Virginia.
>>63735260
that is some epic neck fat
>>63735134
As someone who watched every single snap of the Penn State game that makes me so fucking angry. Michigan had a lot of obvious penalties for offsides (credit to Sackenberg) but way too many of our PIs were phantom calls especially the one against Peppers on 3rd down. Not to mention letting Zettel remain in the game just because it's his senior day.
>>63735318
>>63735260
>>63735166
>muh history
>muh bluebloods
>muh branding
>mfw Notre Dame favoritism exists so much that EA builds it into the NCAA games
>>63733152
>>63733203
>>63733263
/cfb/: Adderall Edition
>>63735230
Their schedule was not very tough. And they scraped by in a majority of the games. Notre Dames schedule is always overhyped because they won't join a conference so basically their whole schedule is OOC. Everyone assumes they play the best teams from each conference but Pitt and USC of late wouldn't fit that description.
>>63735157
>Official P5 Division Rankings
1. B1G East
2. SEC West
3. Pac-12 North
4. Pac-12 South
5. ACC Atlantic
6. B1G West
7. ACC Coastal
8. SEC East
>>63735390
Those games don't even exist anymore.
And its not farfetched that ND is #4, literally two teams ahead of them last week lost. And they were #5 last week.
>>63735456
9/10 post desu senpai i kek'd desu senpai
>>63735548
its not just this year with the ND favoritism. every year they are overhyped and overrated in the polls. maybe not as much this year but still
>>63735653
the favoritism is because they have the biggest fanbase in the country by far
notre dame good = good for ratings
>>63735464
>they scraped by
Could not be any less relevant to sos.
They played 3 end of season top 20 teams, including Rose Bowl champion Stanford. How is this laughably easy? The whole country played a tougher schedule than this?
>>63735724
shouldnt factor into rankings of how good a team is tbf
>>63735724
>catholics
>>63735327
The Zettel targeting reversal was total bullshit, but that's been the nature of targeting this year. It's completely random whether they reverse it or not.
>>63735792
not even because they're catholics
because of their
>winning tradition
>>63727621
HAIL MEN OF FORDHAM, HAIL!
>>63735854
don't forget >muh Roody
>>63727621
COCKY COMIN FOR ALL YALLS BOOTYS>>63727690
>>63735653
With OU finishing strong and the Irish starting to struggle I really doubt that Our Lady will make it to the playoffs.
>>63735854
yeah, notre dame is actually like, a pretty divisive school for Catholics. From my experience, it's the unwashed Irish shit heads that pull for ND, and most of the Jesuit taught Catholics, french, Italian, whatever, are more comfortable rooting against them. Again though, it's just my experience.
>>63735502
Sorry, we're not #1. The bottom 3 are ghastly
I'd go SEC West #1, B1G East #2, then Pac-12 North
>>63735776
It shouldn't, but college football has run on this forever; B1G bias back in the 30s and 40s (when Michigan and Minnesota dominated) was more real than SEC bias now
