So wtf exited the Markarian 335 black hole some time ago?
>>8155515
A burp
>>8155618
A burp with X Radiation larger than our galaxy? And also, the "burp" was measured as a physical object. What gives?
Shouldn't the fact that we observed a coronal mass ejection from a black hole be a sign that the entire theory of black holes is wrong?
>>8155641
Exactly. From what we knew , not even light could escape from a black hole's succ force
>>8155641
Isn't the source of the GRB the matter orbiting the black hole ?
>>8155515
Your mom. Her mass is so great she reached escape velocity.
>>8155515
>wtf exited the Markarian 335 black hole some time ago?
clearly a shitposter from /x/
>>8155699
Escaped velocity, however it can be noticed that it changes forms and illuminates the inner portion of its superheated disk.
>>8155702
This is my first post ever on 4chan. I thought we could debate stuff here on / sci/. Not be huge fkin cunts
And the succ of the hole rendered the thing to rotate
>>8155706
protip: actually state your fucking fact-based opinion, and for extra points, talk about why its better than the opposing theory(s). failing that, just outline the debate. this is especially important if you a random user could misconstrue your topic as a typical shit-post from another board.
>>8155725
How could I state my opinion regarding the mass ejected from the black hole when even the NASA researchers are uncertain (or hide) its origin or provenience. I wanted to hear various opinions from this board, because the judens from NASA are always secretive about their findings
>>8155743
this post alone is infinitely better than your OP
>>8155745
I didn't want to come off as anti-Semitic:))
>>8155751
i missed the part about judens and nasa being secretive.
thats just /pol/ tier retarded and wrong
>>8155752
Well anyways, considering that NASA only gives us filtered information, any thoughts?
>>8155757
he's retarded, don't bother with him. he thinks government agencies are angels and they never lie to people.
>>8155757
probably a coronal ejection from the orbiting disc of super heated gas, JUST LIKE FUCKING NASA SAID AFTER SPENDING COUNTLESS AMOUNTS OF MONEY AND MANHOURS INTERPRETING THEIR SCIENTIFIC DATA, WHICH IS WHAT WE PAY THEM FOR
you goddamn fuckwit
>>8155762
And here I was thinking that you could actually have a reasonable conversation on /sci/ . Go back to playing wow and sucking on your parents bank accounts . Fkin basement inhabitants
>>8155515
lens flare
>>8155706
fuck off newfag
>>8155768
sorry, i meant
obviously nasa is hiding something to further the juden conspiracies and keep getting tax dollars by not actually doing their jobs which somehow gives congress an incentive to keep funding them.. its probably some form of kepler-radiation which is well known to eminate from the edge of a flat-world, which is why NASA would hide that from us.
seriously, eat a huge fat dick man
>>8155794
Don't forget to suck your dad's dick for that monthly WOW subscription
>>8155768
>Boo! Why aren't you guys reassuring my baseless assumptions and conspirazee theories?
Get out
>>8155811
Do you have any evidence they told you the truth from the start ?
>>8155814
Who's "they"?
>>8155814
As they said, "we pay them to do the research" . That must mean they are telling the truth
>>8155823
Let them believe that NASA is truly sincere of their findings and fully exposed all researched data to the public. Because that is what all major entities in our society are doing, being completely sincere and open about their intentions and plans
Maybe it wasnt in the black hole as such, some kinda large sphere or ring orbiting the black hole. Then due to effects of some external object, mass was ejected/ thrown into space
>>8155839
NASA is dependent on the worth of their investigations as seen thru the lens of public perception. That is why they are absolutely desperate to make headlines (see multiple "groundbreaking" announcements about the tiniest bit of evidence for origin of life) and marry themselves to populist politics (see global warming agenda). To argue they are instead involved in some kind of conspiracy to hide and obscure the truth ignores fact, begs a motive, and shows that you have your fucking head firmly up your own ass.
>>8155818
>>8155823
>>8155839
You are aware that NASA works in conjunction with other research centers and institutions all over the world, right? By categorizing NASA as an "evil disinfo institution" you're basically accusing most the astronomy & astrophysics scientific community of being part of a worldwide conspiracy.
You may be right, though. This phenomenon, although totally explainable by our current understanding of black holes is undoubtedly an UFO from the 7th dimension and the evil reptilian scientists don't want us to know about it!
Lmao
Take your pills and go circle jerk somewhere else.
>>8155863
Let's say that you pay me to analyze your mother. And every once in a while I give you various data about yo momma just so I can prove that I am worth your investment. During the analysis of your mother I begin to get familiar with her likes and dislikes and eventually I end up banging her using all the information you paid me to collect about her. Ofc I would not tell you that I banged her because you would stop paying me(but I would continue banging her nonetheless) and so I keep feeding you only general data so that the funding keeps coming. In the meantime you only know half the truth and I am being paid to fuck yo momma
>>8155762
appeal to authority
Weather Balloon.
>>8155869
>This phenomenon, although totally explainable by our current understanding of black holes
not him but can you explain how this works in our current theory on black holes? I did some cursory """"""research"""""" and it looks like they can't explain what the jet was, but I'm not sure whether I interpreted it right
>>8155952
Appeal to expertise, which is the entire basis of fucking science
>>8157577
Jesus dude, don't give them more false arguments, it's not about appeal to expertise, we care about repeatability and usefulness in prediction.
>>8157590
What I mean is, the scientific attitude is that if you are not an expert on a subject, you should accept as your working model the majority opinion of the experts in that subject, unless you have a very good reason not to.
Saying I believe in the theory of gravity because virtually every physicist alive does is not a bad argument
Memes
>>8157577
>Appeal to expertise, which is the entire basis of fucking science
No the basis of science is observation.
>>8157577
>Appeal to expertise, which is the entire basis of fucking science
no
>>8157596
>because virtually every physicist alive does is not a bad argument
it is
>>8157599
The basis of science today is peer-review. Observations which get filtered out don't make any impact.
>>8157652
No.
Science and the scientific community are not the same.
>>8157652
but peer review isnt the basis. what exactly gets peer reviewed if the peer reviews are the basis?
>>8157577
Nope.
Thats still just appeal to authority. Terrible argument
>>8157658
What is allowed through is what defines it to be. The power to say what is and what isn't "science".
>>8157657
What gets filtered out is not science. The filtering process defines what it is.
>>8157666
yeah, the power of peer review. thats what truely defines science.
sure thing, satan
>>8157677
What doesn't get through the review process is not science but quacksalvery / tinfoil hattery / conspiracy theories / charlatan's work (pick your favourite).
Funny thing you bring up "satan". Organized religion is based on exactly the same idea.
Anything not accepted by the church is not "knowledge" and maybe it is even heresy.
>>8157666
>What is allowed through is what defines it to be. The power to say what is and what isn't "science".
Science is a technique not a qualifier, retard.
>>8157700
Yes appeal to authority and pathos triggers for anything deviating.
Hey scientist, meet your new boss, same as the old boss ( but re-branded of course. Just put a suit and tie on that priest, that should do the trick. ).
>>8157707
Yeah I also thought so when I was young and naiive, man. Take care youngling. You have an interesting journey ahead.
>>8157700
I brought up satan only because of your postnumber.
And no, peer review is still not the fucking basis of science. It is a great yet flawed process, that doesnt necessarily make something quacksalvery.
>>8157711
You're just too stupid to use accurate language when it is required
>>8155641
No, because the corona isn't inside the event horizon, it's orbiting the black hole.
Remember, black holes don't "suck thing in" like a vacuum cleaner, they are just gravitating objects like stars that objects orbit. The only difference is that objects can fall into a star and leave a star, whereas objects can only fall into a black hole (quantum black holes radiate, but that isn't matter "leaving" the black hole).
Our entire galaxy is orbiting a black hole, after all.
>>8155801
I know man, what a fucking libtard resorting to ad hom attacks when he can't come up with an argument.
>>8157534
http://www.nasa.gov/press/2014/august/nasas-nustar-sees-rare-blurring-of-black-hole-light
They don't know exactly what's going on, but the corona got closer to the event horizon, which made it brighter.
The Einstein field equations are very difficult to solve exactly, or even to approximate numerically, so a theoretical understanding of this sort of thing is difficult. That's why people are interested in this - it lets them observe it experimentally, and then they can use that data to build a theoretical understanding of what's going on.
Nothing they've seen contradicts general relativity and our current idea of what a black hole is.
>>8157797
>ad hom attacks
>>8157713
What doesn't pass that specific process will not be considered science by those in the community. Therefore the process becomes what defines the word.
>>8157775
And your only skillset seems to be trying to piss people off. Hope for your sake that you're rather good at it.
>>8155777
retarded nigger located
>>8157900
thats not true.
even if it was, that wouldnt make it the basis
clearly i mean what?
>>8157951
Fugg
>>8157901
What other skillsets do I need to apply when replying to a shitposter?
