if we made a simulation of sufficient complexity to allow intelligent life, would that lifeform potentially be able to uncover the fact that they're in a simulation? would they see pixels if they developed the technology to observe their universe at sub-atomic levels? would it be possible to re-write their universe from the inside? is this a stupid question?
>>8147170
is this like asking "is god real?" there's just no way to know?
>is this a stupid question
No and yes
>>8147170
If we made a complete enough simulation to allow for intelligent life, would they know they could just Google for the paper Feynman wrote on it or would they just post the question to 4chan?
What if we actually find a pattern of intelligent life in Conway's Game of Life? Would the pattern then be able to change itself into something else?
>>8147170
uncover as in prove ?
no
>>8147828
Conway's GOL is purely deterministic. Our universe is not.
The way we could see if were in a simulation is to figure out if the programmers skipped some details for optimization or just because they forgot or didn't care. Like having a constant zero-point energy density and make the universe expand, creating energy from nothing... Oh shi-
>>8147852
>Conway's GOL is purely deterministic
Same goes for any simulation we can make.
>>8147863
We could use pseudo random number generators as the actuators of randomness in our simulation. The inhabitants of our simulation will never know the difference given our PRNG is hard enough.
>>8147865
Prove it is deterministic. If I give you 10 radionucleotides, predict with absolute certainty (within Heisenberg) which one will decay and when. (You) should be able to solve this.
>>8147873
How does your incapability of predicting even remotely related to non-determinism ?
I'll give you a coin, predict how many times it will spin and which side will fall under wind and turbulence. You'll have to accept that since you can't even predict it, coinflips must be non-deterministic. And I'll laugh at you along with all the physicist in the world.
>>8147879
>turbulence and wind are random
lol
>>8147879
go to school idiot and stop pestering us with your babby rambling
>>8147921
>decay is not deterministic
Prove it.
