Why do all smart kids always get shoved into the same six degrees?
>Chemistry
>Physics
>Mathematics
>Mechanical engineering
>Civil engineering
>Chemical engineering
Now you and every sperg has the exact same qualification and skillset namely sitting in a room integrating all day and you wonder why nobody wants to employ you. Something specialist or with a creative angle will make you stand out from the crowd. Traditional courses are an oversaturated pressure cooker.
nice blog
>>7708517
>Implying there are other degrees to get jobs with
>>7708517
you forgot computer science.
who says these kids get shoved into these majors? Many of them choose these majors because biology and English are boring af. Most of those majors spend more time solving differential equations than they do integrating. I know this question is troll but couldn't you be a bit more creative?
A lot of retards enter medicine thinking it will be as easy as physiology. Only a small elite graduates in any STEM course
>>7708528
Double E familiga
>>7708528
well I did product design and I have a mech eng related job and my friend who did building services engineering which is a civil eng specialism works for Arup. He says the broad traditional degres are stupid because you end up a jack of all trades, master of none.
>>7708517
In america, isn't every subject oversaturated? Keep hearing how everyone is raised to believe they need a degree. It's just different degrees of fucked.
>>7708517
That's just not true. Smart kids are going all directions. Lots of smart kids don't finish school because it's so understimulating, then end up browsing /sci/ at age 25, waiting for SAT scores to come back.
Some smart kids become professional bullshitters. Like psychoanalysts and theologians. And as a hardly bilingual american, I's say becoming a linguist might be the hardest degree to get, at least at the undergrad level. I wouldn't know anything about what goes on beyond that.
>>7708517
If you're amercan, the smartest thing to do right now is to learn a foreign language and gtfo and translate online for dollars and euros while paying your bills in pesos or rupees
The truly smart ones take philosophy because it's a science of understanding rather than memorizing.
>>7708632
No. Smart goes get bored with high-school, never open a textbook and then still get straight As because it's easy and intuitive as fuck and they are not retarded.
>>7708698
I love people who make this accusation. It's also pretty clear why they're not taking philosophy: their imagination is so lacking that they can't understand why philosophers are some of the highest earners.
>>7708705
Kek
>>7708517
Good question, why do all smart kids pick up degrees in stuff that require thinking when they can go arts or any other meme.
You inspired me op, im throwing my ChemE tomorrow and going for the best school - school of da streets, i will post on /sci/ my mixtape as soon as its ready
Yo Op u da real mvp
>>7708517
because they're smart enough to know that chemistry is the most fun degree :^)
>>7708517
Let's get real now, no one integrates in the real world. Not even academics.
>>7708517
Geology is where it's at.
>>7708517
>not including the study of the most complicated object in the universe
>>7708542
>small elite
so speshul
>>7708720
You're an uncreative pleb. Enjoy being a button pusher for the rest of your life. Pure sceicne I can understand because maybe it's just for the sake of knowing, but shit like ChemE that's "I can solve a basic differential equation gib me money plz"-tier
>>7708720
>when they can go arts or any other meme.
If you were good enough to make money doing art, wouldn't the smart thing to be do that? Are OP's kids really smart or just a special breed of introverted masochist who supposedly contribute to the world by integrating in their room.
whats the easiest degree that'll land me a decent job, /sci/
>>7708517
They're reasonably uniformly distributed, it's just that they get drowned out by fucking normies in the other fields.
>>7708698
Most people that major in Philosophy have rich parents so it doesnt matter.
Gonna reply to troll because even real responses in this thread are stupid.
Most people today who aren't retarded graduate with STEM degrees. Most people also happen to be less than "elite" or "smart". The "elite" and "smart" are those who graduate top of their class or drop out halfway/before university because they don't need a degree like everyone else to secure a shitty middle class job that everyone and their grandmothers seems to think is the best thing that could happen to someone. Note that these "smart" and "elite" kids also happen to be self-motivated and aim higher than some dead-end above average job, and those who "breeze through" their degrees are those barely above average kids who seem "elite" and "smart" in high school.
>>7708840
>Pure sceicne I can understand because maybe it's just for the sake of knowing
>"I can solve a basic differential equation gib me money plz"-tier
>attacking cheme guy
>thinking cheme is about solving differential quations
>knows his major is probably useless, theoretical shit compared to cheme but still tryin to abuse
I`m physics and math double major, I love what I`m doing and would not exchange that for ChemE, but you are simply autistic boy
>>7708675
Shut the fuck up you autistic privileged little dipshit. Just because someone made decisions when they were young without planning for the future does not set them apart as your intellectual inferior. Smart people drop out of high school all the time because they had better shit to do. I stopped showing up to school in freshman year because I was an am sponsored skateboarder and I played guitar for a little nobody hometown band. I was "too cool" or whatever. That doesn't change a 144 IQ, a 2020 SAT score and the fact that i'm not so dumb that I think that a public education is the one and only lifestyle that makes an intellectually capable human.
>>7708540
>women's studies
Subtle
>>7708517
>Civil Engineer
>Smart
Pick one.
>>7708517
>Civil engineering
nice meme, literally the easiest fucking engineering, I know retards who do that shit
>>7709062
>be at final assembly of my school
>one of the higher achieving female students is announced as majoring in gender studies
y tho
>>7709385
Her major is meaningless. She just has rich parents and like Donald Trump, she got a 'small' loan of a million dollars to start something. That or because of rich parents connections she got a high paying job that needs no specific degree.
Like the kind of jobs philosophy majors get but one that actually pays good.
Someone post the next 15 year job projection for engineering. It shows negative growth. In other words MASSIVE LAYOFFS. Enjoy serving me coffee you niggers.
>>7709452
>just engineering
You know that there are specialised fields of engineering right
>>7708720
>school of da streets
Have fun
>>7709487
All fields of Engineering are going to cut jobs. This is the bust cycle everyone talked about since 2010. We're here bitches. The oil and commodity crash destroyed a lot engineering sectors. Civil engineering is the only one with positive job growth. That's due to Obama investing in the infrastructure.
Chem majors always catch a lot of shit from what I've seen, treated like untouchables. Never understood why.
>>7709538
>be aerospace f&dt engineer
>pleb design engineers have layoffs coming next year
>meanwhile, my boss is telling me he wants me to work overtime throughout a good chunk of next year
Just like every other field, you only have to worry about layoffs if you suck.
>>7709559
Well they're the pawns so of course they'll be fired first. But the job projection rate is very low that people like you won't be safe. The oil and commodity crash is hurting a lot of engineering sectors. Aerospace took a dump if I recall the numbers. The field hasn't been the same since the end of the cold war.
>>7708871
>top of their class
Anyone who gets over 70% gets a first. You cannot stand out simply by being a sperg, module choice and extracurriculars is what matters.
>>7709559
youre a kuck, your boss laid off half his staff and dumped all their work on you because he knows youre an autist who will accept it like a badge of honour. Wake up sheeple, engineers are pump and dump tier
>>7709044
>Just because someone made decisions when they were young without planning for the future does not set them apart as your intellectual inferior.
Yes it does. It does precisely that.
I'm sick if you retarded shitstains who took some online IQ test and decided you were a failure despite being a loser and a fuckup.
You are precisely as intelligent as any drop out, blue collar worker or cotton picking nigger, not a modicum more.
>I stopped showing up to school in freshman year because I was an am sponsored skateboarder and I played guitar for a little nobody hometown band. I was "too cool" or whatever
You're a retard yes, that's what we said.
>>7708840
ChemE studies pure science among many other fields and then builds on that to create magnificently wondrous things. Nothing in the modern world could exist, not even for a small wealthy elite, without chemical engineering.
You are ignorant and unimaginative. Ironically it's your very lack of intelligence and creativity that drove you to try and deride the most creative discipline in human history with that snide little comment of yours.
You should kill yourself.
>>7708850
Accounting or IT.
>>7709958
>Being a good goy and going through the system is the only way to be smart.
Girls do better in school for this exact same reason. Are they more intelligent than men or simply better at following orders?
>>7708517
>Civil engineering
>not Electrical Engineering
OP is obviously not one of the smart kids.
>>7709973
>Girls do better in school for this exact same reason.
They have 3 times the dropout rate as boys in engineering in addition to lower performance.
The overwhelming majority of students leave an engineering programme due to poor academic performance, not due to financial or other reasons.
You know what's funny about your retarded little dropout comments? The fact that you pretend like you're going start some business when you obviously don't know jack shit about the business world -like some fucking CS meme where you read some stupid house wives' article on silicon valley and thought that was the real world. In the real world people do no respect you if you do not have a degree. You are dirt. You will not get investors and you will not get a loan. No VCs will want to hear your crackpot startup ideas if you don't also have an engineering degree to back you up.
You really think the Koch brothers -who inherited a multi-million dollar company- needed masters degrees in chemical engineering? They got it because they're smart enough to know how valuable both the credentials and the skills they picked up from professors is.
You will stay in your mother's basement sucking on NEET money for the rest of your life. And then as you your more respectable degree holding contemporaries -both those earning normalfag salaries, and those who become owners of tech companies netting more than you can dream of- you will realize that you were just another retarded dropout all along.
>>7709986
>>7708517
No Electrical Engineering?
In the trash it goes
>>7709987
>>7709385
>Attend top performers post-graduation achievement ceremony of my all-boys boarding school.
>As they're moving from _ to higher achievers the majors predictably start shifting from finance/commerce/law to more difficult degrees like medicine/vet.
>Finally get to the really big boys' -getting your name etch in the plated gold hallway-tier honour roll.
>Everyone majoring in Engineering, Medicine or Physics.
>That one fucking guy who's majoring in architecture.
>That guy is in the top 3.
Fucking combo breaking troll.
>>7709967
>reading a well worded and elegant response, to which at some extent is being respectful
>only to end with fucking "You should kill yourself"
>kek/10
>>7709986
>"I wasted $50,000 and 4 years on my life on a STEM degree therefore I must make sure to denigrate anyone who wasn't stupid enough to do this in order to enable myself to sleep at night!"
Your insecurity is so painfully obvious
>>7710101
>$50,000
>He didn't get a scholarship
You didn't belong in STEM in the first place to be perfectly honest. Thanks for paying the department sponsoring my tuition before dropping out though. Kekhold.
>4 years on my life
As opposed to what exactly? Wasting 4 years playing video games? Have you ever thought that maybe I wouldn't want to work on anything else even if they paid me? Some of us value our education and getting to talk to the top minds in the world on a daily basis is a big part of that.
>Your insecurity is so painfully obvious
Yes, I'm the insecure one. The NEET calling someone a goy for perusing higher education is a healthy, functioning adult.
>>7709044
Wait... so are you defending not going to school to skateboard and play music or not? Because all I can glean from your post is "I was a retard for not going to school and paid the price". So we agree that public education should stay mandatory?
>>7708793
What, women?
>>7710110
>>7710105
I am calling you a goy not for pursuing higher education but for pursuing a meme career field.
>>7708668
Nah. What kind of arrogant fucking people would insist that they have the right to invade someone else's country by the millions while their own country burns from a problem that they have the power to stop- wait a minute....
>>7709549
We're just misunderstood.
People who understand our curriculum know we work our asses off.
I spent a total of 7 hrs a week in a single lab course this semester for 1 credit hour.
The smartest guy I know is a writer. He is very humble, drinks a fuck load, and loves cocaine. I've worked with plenty of people that are "smarter" than him; more educated, scientifically gifted, mathematically gifted, etc. But when you're around this guy, he just exudes intelligence somehow -- in a very non-pretentious, non-autistic way. STEM people are more often than not morons to me. They're impossible to talk to or hang out with (the majority at least) but just because they do triple-integrals all day and spout off elitist jargon, they're seen as more intelligent.
I think society simply views STEM people as more intelligent out of ignorance. Anyone with some sentience that understands science and math themselves will tell you that it's a trade, just like anything else.
</rant>
>>7710317
>writer
>drinks a fuck load
>loves cocaine
>smart
>>7708632
>I's say becoming a linguist might be the hardest degree to get
You're fucking retarded. Learning languages is easy as fuck as long as you're not dumb as shit and do it right.
>>7710317
>loves cocaine
Doing a drug that can ruin your entire fucking life in a split second and drains the shit out of your money, YAY FOR SMART PEOPLE!
If you do hard drugs you're invariably either so deep down in depression that you actually need them to not kill yourself or you are retarded as fuck.
>>7708517
i know. pls travel back in time and tell it to 18 y/o me.
>>7710317
Being charismatic and quick witted is not seen as intelligent because most people of above average (by which I mean above 50% of the population) can develop similar social skills and crystallized cultural knowledge solely practicing it often.
It's seen as easily obtainable because to varying degrees it's common in most people we come into contact with every day.
To the contrary a much smaller fraction of the population will try and fail at STEM, which is why it is seen as being practiced by more intelligent individuals, something your writer friend probably also believes.
>>7710360
Are you really trying to compare Erdos to a fucking drunk, cocaine sniffing writer whore?
You should be ashamed of yourself.
>>7708571
America is fucked. You have to have a degree to find secure career placement.
>>7710360
He was smart but not because of his cocaine (ab)use. And he most definitely was an extreme outlier. So, no, I won't be going on my knees to suck his dick.
>>7710317
This. Being able to regurgitate a book and spout off jargon doesn't make you smart.
>>7708517
You forgot philosophy OP
>>7710317
I agree with you completely. A lot of intelligent people often lack a general understanding and wisdom that cannot be directly gained through the study of a specific subject. For example, the ability to calmly reflect and consider two opposing viewpoints and weigh the positives and negatives of each and avoiding black and white thinking is something I usually view as intelligent. Although I realize it's all a lack of want for specific definitions all the way down.
>>7710341
You're a fucking faggot, dude.
>>7710794
I know right? STEMfags think that "I am right because I read it in a book" is a good way to argue.
I'm a petroleum engineering student :(
If my parents didn't have money and my gf wasn't a semen demon idk what I would be doing with my life
Many of these degrees have sub specializations. For example, I am a ME, but I really do chemistry research.
>>7709986
10/10 fucking rekt
>>7711540
If my grandma wasn't paying 100% for my university, I wouldn't even bother going.
>>7709559
Why are you proud of having a boss like that and working overtime? I'm not even kidding.
>>7709986
I don't know how old you are or if you're still in college but "in the real world", employers aren't that shortsighted as yourself. There are a lot of employers who will give you a shot if you know the skills but don't have the degree. Some might even help you (partially) pay for getting the degree. Also, it doesn't take a degree to start a business or make it flourish. But it obviously does help. But so does having good social skills. If you graduated magna cum laude in CS and started a business but have zero social skills, you can start a business but it won't last long because, believe it or not, but your customers aren't as easy as learning a book and passing an exam. It's not all so black and white as you make to be, kiddo.
>>7711640
>Some might even help you (partially) pay for getting the degree
lmao what a fantasy land you live in
>>7711645
I'm afraid it's reality. Anyway, best of luck to you in life.
>>7711645
Are you retarded or something? It is normal practice for employers to sponsor promising apprentices through a degree at least here in the UK. Typical /sci/, "there is only one way of doing things" Yes goy, taking out a huge loan is the only way because your teacher said so
Spatial Science with Honours in Geographic Information Systems.
How'd I do?
>>7711625
Because I'm paid by the hour, and overtime pay is awesome
Young engineers should always ask to be paid by the hour.
>>7710569
No, he really didn't
>>7711625
You do realize that most companies pay 1.5-2 times the normal rate for OT right? That Anon is going to make a shitload of money.
>>7711820
>Young engineers should always ask to be paid by the hour.
It doesn't really matter, most companies add your OT on top of your base salary even if you aren't paid by the hour, so you get you compensated either way.
>>7711640
>I don't know how old you are or if you're still in college but "in the real world",
Postgrad, I've worked in industry and I still do consultations.
>employers aren't that shortsighted as yourself.
They weren't pre-2008 maybe.
>There are a lot of employers who will give you a shot if you know the skills but don't have the degree.
Maybe if traveled back in time to the 20th century. They will pay for post grad degrees, you will not get a job without a bachelors unless it's your uncle or he's fucking your mom or something.
>Some might even help you (partially) pay for getting the degree.
Actually, bursars will pay for your degree fully. However, only talented recent high-school graduates can apply. So again, your little IQ tests aren't going to get you a job.
>Also, it doesn't take a degree to start a business or make it flourish.
It does if you want to start a technical business where you need a network you can only build up coming through academia, that is to say where all the real money is. Enjoy your shitty convenience store though.
>But it obviously does help.
Not really, it's more for legality and legitimacy.
>But so does having good social skills.
Everyone has those (excluding basement dwelling >muh IQ NEETS)
>If you graduated magna cum laude in CS and started a business but have zero social skills, you can start a business but it won't last long because, believe it or not, but your customers aren't as easy as learning a book and passing an exam.
Be specific, because I'm certain you are stuck on the silicon valley meme. I can't believe you even mentioned CS which is a fucking IT degree everywhere except top unis. You are clearly not in on of the relevant majors mentioned in the OP.
>It's not all so black and white as you make to be, kiddo.
As far as your getting degree. Yes, yes it is. You either have a degree or you don't. You are either taken seriously or you're manchild with only a high-school diploma to his name.
>>7711846
Also, you either have your professional engineering degree, or you go to jail for violating the CPA and a shit ton of health and safety laws.
