[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y ] [Home]
4chanarchives logo
Democracy got owned by mathematics: https://en.wikipedia.org
Images are sometimes not shown due to bandwidth/network limitations. Refreshing the page usually helps.

You are currently reading a thread in /sci/ - Science & Math

Thread replies: 22
Thread images: 2
File: 1449451763391.jpg (149 KB, 811x739) Image search: [Google]
1449451763391.jpg
149 KB, 811x739
Democracy got owned by mathematics:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow's_impossibility_theorem

Why would anyone support this shitty system which goes against basic logic and mathematics?
>>
Tradition is a incredibly powerful thing.
>>
>>7705698
It's really only relevant to democratically planned economics. What do you think it means for a presidential election to be pareto optimal?
>>
>Voting systems that use cardinal utility (which conveys more information than rank orders; see the subsection discussing the cardinal utility approach to overcoming the negative conclusion) are not covered by the theorem.
>>
File: Plato-Book9_v02.jpg (356 KB, 720x419) Image search: [Google]
Plato-Book9_v02.jpg
356 KB, 720x419
Read Chapter 8 of Plato's The Republic. Democracy is irrational since the Greeks.
>>
>>7705817
>I use 1000+ years old rhetoric to make arguments unironically

Pop philosophers are even worse than pop scientists.
>>
>>7705822
Kek. Can you even prove you have read Chapter 8 of Plato's The Republic
>>
>basic logic and mathematics

lol
>>
>>7705827
>Can you even prove
stopped reading there.
>>
>>7705827
Kek. Can you even prove I am not fucking your mom right now?
>>
>>7705698
>Why would anyone support this shitty system which goes against basic logic and mathematics?
Lack of alternatives
>>
>>7705909
Why Fascism of course, it's becoming trendy again.
>>
>>7705698
opened this thread only to save that glorious picture of the cat showing resentment to pancakes

thanks anon
>>
>>7705698
I don't need mathematics to tell me why democracy and its derivatives don't work.

Mathematicians are logically deficient.
>>
>>7705822
Someone post the "s-start w-with the Greeks" comic
>>
>>7705794
In democratic voting systems where people can vote for candidates, cardinal utility which voters express is converted to ordinal utility which expresses their preferences after voting. This is why democracy is fundamentally inefficient, and can't rationally choose candidates.
>>
>>7705909
>lack of alternatives

There's technocracy which is far better than piece of shit democracy.
>>
Thats why elections run on a two party system.
>>
>>7705698
The alternatives are on average worse.
>>
"The best argument against democracy is
a five-minute conversation with the average voter."
– Winston Churchill
>>
>>7705698
There being a deciding voter is hardly the worst element of democracy.
>>
>>7706315
>This is why democracy is fundamentally inefficient, and can't rationally choose candidates.
You're sure it isn't that democracy can't rationally choose candidates because the people making the decision are fundamentally irrational disgusting animals?
Thread replies: 22
Thread images: 2

banner
banner
[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y] [Home]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
If a post contains personal/copyrighted/illegal content you can contact me at [email protected] with that post and thread number and it will be removed as soon as possible.
DMCA Content Takedown via dmca.com
All images are hosted on imgur.com, send takedown notices to them.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the content originated from them. If you need IP information for a Poster - you need to contact them. This website shows only archived content.