Let's talk about common problems
>What the fuck girls want from you?
>/uglyfeels/
>What should I do next?
>Is it really worth doing "x"
>How do I move on?
Ask questions like this and Ill try to help
Why don't you post the answers to your own questions
>>28154428
>What the fuck girls want from you?
I have no clue. While it'd be nice to be comforted and loved by a female, I don't really need a gf in my life. No reason to hold someone back from finding someone better than I am, and I already jerk off a lot and I could easily buy an onahole or an escort, so it's not like I don't have options for sexual relief.
>/uglyfeels/
I've been told I've been good looking/ cute and women don't seem disgusted by me and sometimes enjoy my company.
>What should I do next?
Trudging through school to learn a trade and get money to move out of my parents, buy what I like, travel, go to concerts, and make movies.
>Is it really worth doing "x"
I think I'm doing okay with my plans
>How do I move on?
I already know how
>>28154841
Well it's simple, every person has these problems for different reasons.
As if, theres a few types of things girls usually want from guys.
I.E:
>Companionship (friendzone)
>Sex
>Money
>Or self indulgent if they're shallow
It's not necessarily bad being friends with girls. But don't let them play you along if you really do have feelings or think you may catch them.
>>28154992
>1, It's lovely is it, I've only had sex under ten times and to be honest I'm not really for it. Theres more things to girls then sex.
>2, For me that's half and half, I know I don't really fit in, and quite a few girls aren't really attracted to me, but I've been told I'm cute / good looking. I just hope people aren't lying for my emotions.
-Do you get paranoid how people treat you?-
>3
Trade work is REALLY underrated I think. People aim for the stars and not the easy cash in trade. Not much debt for it either.
-I'm studying a degree in film studies actually, would you take your movie production further?-
>4
Along as you think you are and have a good mindset, you'll be alright
>5
Good on you man.
>>28154428
> Let's talk about common problems
thats what this entire board is about tho.. why make 1 thread for it?
>What the fuck girls want from you?
This is actually a very easy question. They want you to make them feel like they're the ones who lose if they're not with you, and not the other way around.
This is achieved not by having interesting hobbies or by being successful, just by being a manipulating son of a bitch, pretending to be busy all the time and, specially, being wanted by other girls.
>>28155191
Of course anon, you're totally right
>>28155122
>Do you get paranoid how people treat you?
Extremely, but I rather keep things as they are than push them further and ruin anything. Not like I'm being approached by women and being oblivious to them, rather I feel like if I ever complain about little things I'd come off as a little bitch and over reacting. I just want to live life and try to be happy. I may meet my "one-and-only", but I'll be okay dying alone if that doesn't happen.
>would you take your movie production further
Oh in a heartbeat, I'd love to be a big time director but going to school to do something like that seems pointless and a waste of money. I've learned much about film from a couple film classes, school news, engkish calssss, the internet, and experience fucking around with cameras and editing equipment/programs. I want to do it as a hobby mostly but if given the chance to "go big" I'd love to.
I'm confused by two women right now.
The first one
>says the sweetest things to me
>sends me messages all the time even though I often ignore them
>we make out all the time
>even though we barely know each other, she makes it clear that she likes me
I don't get why she makes it so obvious. I think it's a trap, but maybe she genuinely likes me. I don't know how to tell.
The second one:
>friend at uni
>hang out with her all the time
>always laughs when she's alone with me
>we talk about the people we've kissed when drunk and shit like that (I usually make shit up since I'm not that much of a normie)
>kind of hard to get rid of her sometimes
>got really mad when she saw me making out with girl 1
>sexual tension has died since then, but she still seems to be trying hard to get close to me
I don't know if she wants to friendzone me really hard or if she's interested and I don't know how to tell.
pls help
>>28155295
I've actually seen this work for myself quite a few times actually, I'm a ex huge loser so I'm usually very nice to people, for those I'm not, I find that they go out their way more often to socialise.
You seem experienced anon, have you've tried manipulation before?
>>28155385
>1
That sounds quite a cozy lifestyle anon, I worry daily about not finding "the one". But only time will tell. You'll find someone in due time.
-Do you get worried that you'll struggle to meet new people once you settle in a job, such as for friends and lovelife?-
>2
It's crushing actually, I'm basically rolling the die and hoping for the best. I wouldn't mind low end indie, casting, producing or odds n ends.
>>28155500
I'm not very experienced, but I learned a lot from youtube videos, books and movies about seduction.
I tried it a few times and it's almost flawless. It really makes you wonder if women are actually retarded.
>>28154841
>what the fuck girls want from you?
Basically the same thing you want from them : companionship, love, conversation, affection, sex, etc.
Also, everyone is different. Despite claims made on this board, women are people too- so although their general wants are similar, their more specific wants will differ.
So, it depends on the girl you are talking to.
>/uglyfeels/
Tfw no woman will ever approach you
>What should I do next?
Get some form of strenuous exercise 3x a week. Shower every day. Get a haircut that suits your face. Look up basic fashion advice stuff on the Internet. Try to put yourself in social situations, little by little. Start by simply making eye contact with women in public, then move on to asking them directions or the time.
>Is it really worth doing "x"
Depends what X is. Usually it is if it doesn't involve physical or emotional harm to yourself or anyone else.
>How do I move on?
Wallow in misery for a few days then meet other women. Immerse yourself in a hobby. Make friends. Travel.
>>28154428
>>What the fuck girls want from you?
actually nothing. Im so ugly that every interaction i have with a girl is sincere but i wouldnt call that luck
>>/uglyfeels/
im ok with it as long as i can keep my denial
>>What should I do next?
been wondering that, im 23 and a neet. I tryed a couple of things but nothing worked out and i started to feel the life is passing you by feel and its not retarded like when i was 20
i honestly just want a job that i can eventually turn into a good job by the time im 25
>>Is it really worth doing "x"
deppends on what x is, rule of thumb is x is worth doing but not dedicating your life to
>>How do I move on?
shia labeouf
>>28155450
What is confusing about first one? She probably likes you and doesn't know how/is too insecure to make you chase her.
Second one is jealous but probably likes you and is too prideful to tell you.
You dumb?
>>28155573
But, consider this, it works the same way that women can control males, it's all about self control and respect.
>>28155450
>1,
only time can tell anon, as hard and nervous it is, do something now rather then leaving it and regretting it. If you do get together you can always break up if you don't like it. Love is love. You should be glad you noticed, twice throughout my life I didn't notice women being nice to me, one of the pretty good looking too. I now realise it and regret it completely.
>2,
I'm unsure about this one, I think you also need to actually talk to her about it. Rather then leading her on.
Both of them are the same to be honest. As bad as it sounds you just need to be decisive mate.
>>28155500
>Do you get worried that you'll struggle to meet new people once you settle in a job, such as for friends and lovelife?
Not really, things happen and I like meeting new people. If they want to be my friend that's all fine and dandy, if not it's okay. There are times I don't like things and just stop preventing me from continuing growing relationships making new friends, but it's not like it bothers me, I'll meet others in the future, or not I have my present friends. And if there's a time and point I don't have those friends anymore, I'll just be okay being with my family, and when they die or detest me, I'm okay being alone, no pets though, they go too fast and it hurts to lose something very close to you that is the only companion in your life.
As for love life, never dated a girl so it's not like it's foreign for me to not get a girlfriend, but if a girl does come in to me I wouldn't really know how to react other than be nice to her and other to take her out to eat or something. I don't see why any girl would like me, even I don't like myself sometimes, I'm surprised I have friends that like me. I'm so boring and can be obnoxious at times, I guess I just like being nice and doing things for people and listening to others.
>>28155656
>What is confusing about first one?
I can't trust a woman. I act like I don't like her cause I actually like her. I don't know how to tell if she genuinely likes me or is playing games just like I am.
>Second one is jealous but probably likes you and is too prideful to tell you.
This is my theory too but I don't know how to confirm. I wonder if there are some clues. She's useful as a friend so I wouldn't want to waste her being rash.
>>28155710
Women control males on an entirely different level, actually.
If I was a woman and I wanted to seduce a guy I'd just make compliments. I'd tell him I like his haircut, his smell, his clothes, the way he speaks, etc.
If you go and tell a girl all that shit she'll tell you to fuck off.
>>28155581
>1,
You're very smart anon, and correct, obviously. People need to apply themselves, most people feel the same, they just have different approaches.
>2,3
Horrid feeling, utterly horrid. I might start boxing, only because I don't like the idea of just sitting down for ages, seems boring. At least you can just be ugly instead of ugly and fat!
My fashion is slowly improving, I just need to fix my haircut.
>5
Misery isn't really the right way, misery likes company, but if you aren't more established than them, you'll just be a pushover.
>>28155603
>1,2
Try changing your appearance anon, also false confidence I've found to work, quite subtle though.
>3,
That seems like a deadend man, look for apprenticeships or something anon, never give up, best start hard now, rather than waste more time.
>>28155727
Hmm, this applies to me quite a bit, although it bothers me more, I just struggle at making close friends, I always feel a bit disconnected, hopefully I'll sort it out sooner than later.
>>28155817
Best find out sooner than leave it and regret later anon.
>>28155925
Yeah it is quite different, the same aspect is there though, they just have it easier. I see girls get complimented a LOT more and I find it weird but nice when I get complimented. I probably think a lot more of it than they do.
>>28155656
Not be rude anon, even though it's good advice
>tfw when you red heart snapchat a qt you've been talking to everyday for a month now
>tfw she has a boyfriend, in a failing relationship
>she sorta hangs and smokes with me, we get along really good
>always keeps talking to me, keeps wanting to hangout
>yesterday her boyfriend apparently "broke up with her"
>asks me if I wanna hangout with her tomorrow and do anything
>dont want to catch feelings but fuck man i am
>>28154428
When walking to and from class, sometimes cute girls will catch me looking at them and they will smile. Is it just a nervous smile? I like to think there is mutual attraction, but the people in my dorm started a rumor that I am a sexual predator because I don't leave my room except for class or food, and I am worried that it has gotten farther and that they are laughing at me.
>>28154428
>What the fuck girls want from you?
The same thing you do, pretty much, just not with you.
>>28156586
Shit sucks man,you seem to know what you're doing though. All I can say is that it's natural to feel like this, you should feel happy that you could possibly be with someone you love.
>>28156645
That's fucking horrific anon, I know a guy who got falsely accused of rape. To be honest, it could be a joke that you might be taking a bit too seriously, maybe you should try hang out in your kitchen more or with other people? I wouldn't want to feel anti social at uni.
>>28154428
How do you measure success? Should I be glad I'm where I am even if it's still a shit position because I'm technically doing better than the rest of my entire family?
>>28156708
I went to socials and that sort of thing in the first weeks of Uni, but I never met anyone there. Still go to History Club meetings. I only found out about this because my roommate who is a lot more normalfag than I am thought I should know (he argued with them about it because he correctly assumes it is impossible for someone who doesn't leave the room to be a predator), he said they still tried to convince him it was true.
>>28156775
I measure success on how self fulfilled you are.
Watch this, it's a pretty good video on what a person SHOULD consider being rich and successful.
>>28156795
That's stupid man. Any other socials or hobbies you'd want to try?
How can I tell whether a girl really wants to keep seeing me. I thought the date went pretty well but I'm not sure.
>>28156853
>>28156775
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJQyNv_RalI
Forgot to add link!
>>28156853
What would I do? I only like history, political philosophy, and theology.
>have oneitis
>used to look at her instagram all the time and just admire her
>she blows me off
>force myself to stop looking at her pics
>just looked again today after a few weeks
>realize she's not even that good looking
>so much wasted time
>>28156870
Sometimes you really need to think about things for a long amount of time. It really does help.
Ask her for another one!
>>28156907
Well, any sort of sport? Doesn't have to be a big one, just look up social things in your area. Like I said before I'm thinking of trying boxing. Exercise helps you feel a lot better and look a lot more outgoing. Trust me. It'd also help your get out more and shut your dorm up.
>>28156914
That's a fucking harsh feeling, sometimes when you look back on things you realise things you didn't before. Reflection is key. You should be happier she rejected you man rather than you not notice and keep going with it.
>>28156914
Catching feelings is intoxicating like drugs dude. Makes you believe it was time well spent until it wears off.
>>28156959
>any kind of sport
Nah, don't like it. Not just playing either. I hate watching them too.
>tfw I have simultaneously gotten 3 girls numbers and progressed through the banter stage with each of them
>tfw I now have to make real plans with them all and I'm gonna sperg out one by one
>>28156977
Well even just exercise? Rock climbing or something? It'll make you look more normie. It's not really for fun then, just the betterment of yourself.
>>28156980
Yeesh, I know that feeling, too anxious to make a move and end up screwing it over.
>>28157036
I walk and sometimes hike, but I walk at an autistic pace, almost like a military march, because it lets me get places very quickly (I can cross my entire campus in about seven minutes).
>>28154428
Why do I always feel like I don't have a chance with any woman if there's another guy in the room?
If there's any other guy it seems like I've already lost and can't compete, like he's automatically a better option for her than me. And if she has a friend she just won't be interested in me
It's hard to imagine someone being attracted to me sexually. I get along with women fine and hang out with them sometimes, but I feel like I'm lacking some important component that makes me desirable.
>>28154428
Should I ask my coworker out we have been hanging out after work together for 4 months now. She has spend all major holidays with me.
>>28157082
>tfw i see this post
Ok you need to try to be cooler, as blunt as I've put it. If you walk like that the girls are probably smirking at you, the nicer people are to you the nicer you'll feel yourself. Take it easy and don't march.. Also I'm gonna ignore why you felt the need to put the last part in the bracket down. You need to correct bad habits that may be seen weird by others.
>>28157134
I get that, I envy a flatmate who seems to be a lot more successful than I am with girls, even though he's a huge dickhead. I think I know how he does it though. And it's partially true, dunno If I'm deluded or not, but I feel like people are always interested in someone else.
It's all about confidence bro, you will get put down sometimes, but just try to act cool-headed, and push on through, you might surprise yourself with what you can do, other than that, what do you lose from trying harder? A definitive answer so you can stop worrying? You become less sensitive to rejection? All are positives bro, I believe in you.
>>28157233
Do you actually really like her though? Make sure you have legitimate feelings before doing it just because they're there. First evaluate how you've been socialising with her, think about how she reacts with you. If you think they're signs, go for it, you should be less nervous then. If you can't really see any, but still like her, ask her if SHE likes YOU. That way you don't seem like a big bozo if she doesn't.
>>28156876
Thanks. He's said a lot I already agree with and know. Not only has my family never made 40k a year on their own but they always have some sort of debt to pay.
For me, I don't spend much on my own. I buy what I want for groceries but I eat fast food maybe twice a month. Outside of what soda I have left, I don't plan on buying anymore. I tend to have around $300 or so to just sit aside, and that's after my monthly limit of around $100 a month on games. Sometimes it's more, other times it's less.
Me and my brother agree that the best way to live is that you work to live, don't live to work...but my problem is that I don't make much as is. And for three years now everything has happened to me from homelessness to buying a new car completely on my own. Not a lot of people do all of this by 23 you know?
I guess my question revolves around feeling satisfied...even though I know I don't know what it's like to have a single, solid year in which there isn't a crisis of some sort.
Why is it that no matter how hard I try to throw off "leave me alone" vibes strangers still pester me for small talk?
>>28157377
It'll happen, you'll feel satisfied when you reach a good place and have gratitude for it compared to where you've previously been.
>>28157505
They're just trying to be nice anon, everyone's like it. I guess it's unfortunate to some like yourself.
Why do you try to throw them off.
>>28155573
Can you link to some of these resources?
go on a few dates
after our date sunday text her she looked beautiful tonite
no response, silence for the last few days
what do I do now?
I think she's done with me
>>28154428
Should I ask this one qt latina on a date. Sometimes I snapchat her and then she'll always ask me what I'm up to so I think she likes me. Not sure though
>>28158945
yes just do it you dumb fuck
>>28158945
How did you guys meet?
So you guys chat often?
Has she ever brought up hanging out IRL?
You should ask if she wants to go out to a dinner or something.
>>28158985
What do I say? Just "Do you wanna go out sometime?" That's all I can think of.
>>28158999
Nice trips.
Met through a mutual friend at a party/get together thing. Don't chat too often. I sent her a snap of snowboarding and she said she wanted to try one day. Close enough?
>>28159004
text her or whatever and ask her what she's doing this weekend
if she's not busy ask her out
>>28159028
Talk to her a bit longer and ask if she'd like to hang for lunch or something, try bit to come off as thirsty since you're still not that close, and if she accepts then you'll get close to some latina pussy.
>>28158811
Try one more time, and then don't text them again, I'm afraid to say you've probably been blown off. They still might reply, they might not. Stay hopeful, but don't be too upset at the chance of regret.
>>28158945
>>28159028
You say she keeps asking what you're up to, she obviously shows interest, now here is the hard part. You can ask her to go for a meal or something, not specifically a date, and get to know her more. I wouldn't specifically ask her to go straight for a date though, you seem like you don't know her well enough, it might seem a bit out of the blue for her.
I've also liked doing this guys, I might start making these threads every so often then.
>>28159132
>>28159085
>>28159039
I suppose I'll give it a go. Worst she can do is say no, right?
>>28159175
exactly
keep it friendly at first but feel it out and then be a little more bold for the 2nd time you go out
>>28159175
Yup!
It's better to find out now then go through all the anxiety overthinking if she really does love you or not.
Well, I'm gonna cook some food and mope about.
Cya anons.
n.OP
Why does she just message me out of nowhere months after ditching me?
>>28156980
>Realize I've gotten like cute girls' numbers in high school
>Figured it was just for school work or something
>mfw I'm fucking harem protagonist dense
I stop giving a shit, but I still can't help feeling like I missed something interesting.
>talking to girl1 online for a while
>we get along alright but I decide she doesn't like me and stop messaging her
>start talking to a new girl
>wow girl2 is cool, she might even like me
>a few days later I am overcome with a passion for girl1
>talk to her again
>goes pretty well
The most pathetic thing is that this story isn't a story. There's been nothing explicitly romantic between me and either girl and it's entirely online.
I'm moving away to a new town for school in a few months and I want to make a new life for myself (in the sense that I'm pretty much starting with a blank slate) but I'm worried I'm still gonna be the same faggot beta I am now. I understand there needs to be a change but I'm not really sure how to make that come about
>>28154428
Why can't girls leave me alone?
I get that I'm ugly and undesirable, but do you have to remind me every day?
Just fuck off and leave me alone to cry and die alone.
You've kicked my genes out of the gene pool, taken my only place to call home (r9k), and now I can't even go buy cat food without being harassed.
Just fuck off
>>28159642
>because she knows you will sit up and beg like a good dog.
i'm a poor, unskilled, inexperienced, less than average, weak, and dropout neet
how the fuck do go from this to being a able to get job that will get me out the united states
>where does the average male meet women for a relationship?
There's no-one where i work and going out and trying to pick up at clubs or whatever always seemed like a shit way to meet people.
Is there shame in dating sites?
>>28154428
Why don't I want a gf? I'm 21 and havent talked to girls since high school. I see other people like me crying about not having a gf but I feel fine.
I think about if I had one and I get anxious and don't know what I would do with one anyway.
What does this mean????
>>28162489
Means you're gay and should be my trap gf
Visiting home in three days. My personality has dwindled and every time I see my relatives I have less and less to say. I think these will be the last moments before the facade of engagement gives way to me being seen as the socially retarded shell that I am.
>>28162523
But I don't like men and I don't want to be a trap
