>tfw no friends.
>tfw late 20's.
>tfw only work an unemployed entry level retail job.
>tfw normies make fun of you all the time yet status jockey on facebook over ethnic minorities, homos, and now trannies.
>tfw normies tell you that there is no such thing as normal and that you should love yourself for who you are.
>tfw same normies don't really mean what they say (to you), they just want to upboats for their already sky high egos/self-esteem.
>tfw you know you will never be loved or cherished by anyone outside your family, and that if you do die at an old age, the only ones that will bother to show up at your funeral will be your siblings.
>tfw told " lolthere is no such thing as normal = v ) "
>tfw always either misinterpret people's actions or words or overlook them due to literal autism.
>tfw hate other autists because they remind me of my own insecurities and inferiority.
>tfw liberalism will never get around to makes autists victim of the day.
>tfw will die alone and unloved.
The rest of you robots just want to get laid. I just want to be accepted and people to cherish my presence. I have already given up on love years ago.
At least I will be a wizard soon.
>tfw even on /r9k there is no one who knows these feels.
I know that feel bro. In my 30s, still living at home, and have to job hop every year because coworkers always end up bullying me out. Im a consistently nice, quiet and competent individual, but cant keep up with banter.
I have a very specific problem of being unable to get other people to like me or treat me right, and it is so very limiting.
Its like the whole world is a buddy system and you must fit in.
>>28068174
Cont.
I suppose it would be possible for me to get into a workplace that would allow me to progress in life (mortgage, marriage), but it would be to be so formal, so button-down professional that no "personality" is tolerated.
What ruins me is the requirement that all workers must be cool, outgoing, fun, interesting, and everbody's best friend, or else you are literally failing to be a team player. I can only do pleasantries and gentle cooperation, but when its revealed that my personality is bland and boring, the campaign of expulsion begins.
I just want a job a can keep for a few years without being insulted and bullied daily. Every office culture is like a cultish frat house where misbehavior is seen as productive team building.
>>28068317
Cont.
also, OP i think the reason u arent getting many responses is that we are older than the average robot, who hasnt yet discovered just how mercilessly the adult working world forces you to conform to a culture that hates introverted free thinkers.
>>28068034
>tfw told " lolthere is no such thing as normal = v ) "
This is why I hate normies and everything social in general. How come, if there is no normal, I have a fucking force field of loneliness around me that makes people not want to sit next to me even in a lecture hall.
Getting a gf by some kind of miracle won't solve that problem.
>>28068399
Nice dubs.
I think its not the work world, considering I barely work. But rather a lot of the teens and college age people here think that "getting laid" or a gf will magically make them normies or accepted.
Wait until they find out that things just get worse. Just look at how how much more bitter 4chan seems now compared to four years ago.
>>28068034
Fuck you and your green text. I mean fucking hell. I am getting itchy reading this bullshit. Why cant I just sit and chill?
>>28068430
I deleted my facebook account because I was tired of seeing what I will never have.
>>28068174
I'm pretty much exactly the same as you. 38-year-old autist who's had decent (office) jobs in the past but always ends up bullied and an outcast.
Not sure what else to say but there are others like you out there, OP. I agree though that it doesn't really get better. All this stuff bothers me less now than it did when I was younger, though, probably due to both a decline in hormone levels and the simple fact you become more and more irrelevant socially as you age.
I've spent this past month in the midst of the worst depressive episode of my life and am pretty certain I'll never work at all again now. Just cash out my retirement savings, enjoy a few years of peace and then off myself. I certainly don't need to see 50.
>>28068820
My heart goes out to you. I understand your pain.
What happened that was the impetus for the worst depressive episode of your life (and why you think you will be unable to ever work again), if I don't mind asking.
>>28068899
>What happened that was the impetus
I'm not really sure there was one specific thing, more just the realization that I'm stuck in the same pattern of optimism leading to rejection and isolation that's been going on my entire life.
However, the straw that broke the camel's back was starting to go to therapy in the hopes of improving things, then realizing that despite following all the therapist's advice I am still a weak beta pussy who gets pushed around effortlessly by everyone else. So I was paying an absolute fortune for the privilege of talking to a normie while continuing to fail every basic social test I was confronted with.
This is just who I am. I'm weak and autistic and just, fundamentally broken. Things will never get better and it is stupid to imagine they will. In this world if you cannot functioning socially---which means deceiving, dominating and exploiting others---then you cannot function at all, period.
Since then I just have no motivation to do anything. I withdrew from the world at the start of March and became basically a complete shut-in two weeks later. Getting a job, doing any work or basically "contributing to society" anything at all would simply be wallowing in my status as a sucker. If society wants me back, they can come offer me a deal that will make it worth my time. Of course nobody will do this, as the point all along was to exploit me, robbing me of my time, labour and money while denying me any hope of ever achieving a basic level of self-esteem.
Anyway. Fuck autism, is what I'm trying to say.
>>28069045
>despite following all the therapist's advice
To be clear, the therapist's advice was: Find something you love doing, and do it. Which I think is not bad advice except it seems ludicrous when the real problem is being treated like trash by everyone around you.
I don't understand why I seem to be the only person in the world who recognizes this is going on. The only thing that would really help me is being able to build the skills first to defend myself socially, then secondly to go on the social offense the way everyone else does to move themselves ahead in the world. These skills are precisely the things autism robs its victims of, thereby making life just an exercise in getting hurt.
Does anyone here know what I'm talking about?
>>28069103
I find myself with similar struggles. I don't know what to say. You should try talking more with your siblings if you have any. Also, give up internet porn. Seriously. Try nofap if you feel up to it. At the very least it will give you more aggression and more of an "edge".
Why don't Autists just try not being autistic for once? Is it really that hard?
>>28069439
OP here. I try very hard. I can "emulate norminess" in small talk interactions. But in group settings I shutdown. I also always have my mask slip off when I feel any extreme emotion.
Its psychologically taxing to keep faking and being on edge to appear normal. Our brains are unfortunately wired differently. I don't want the normies to accept me, but I at least wish there were a few people out there that would.
>>28068174
>I have a very specific problem of being unable to get other people to like me or treat me right, and it is so very limiting.
This is my life in a nutshell. 28 years old.
>>28069439
>Is it really that hard?
Yes it is
>>28069532
I feel you there. Acting normie drains energy quickly. Although i'm sure you have it harder than me. I find it's best to adopt a poker face when out with normies. Always try to think about the social situation your in rationally and not let insecurities make you paranoid. They don't give a fuck who you are or how you are acting (unless you are in high school than they probably do).
>>28069710
>(unless you are in high school than they probably do).
Implying most normies don't mentally leave high school, especially among millenials.
>>28069439
Full on epin Trobe xDd
>>28069779
The normies i interract with are mostly university normies (who were probably beta + in highschool). They arn't too bad. I wan't to kill the uneducated redneck normies from where I grew up though
>>28069886
Most normies go to college now in the US bro, and they still act the same as they did in high school from my experience.
>>28069886
heh sucks for you. Here in Australia normies get a trade. They are indoctrinated from birth to do so. You get some fags in uni still of course but they have little power here.
>>28068174
>>28068317
>>28068399
Bumping this thread.
I've had a few pleb jobs that I tolerated just fine; warehouse work was great for being alone with my thoughts. Later I even got a promotion that gave me a taste of what a front office is like, though I didn't spent much time in there.
This is why, despite the possibility of making more money, I think I would rather stay with certain types of pleb work that I already know I can hack. I don't want to be your (the co-worker's) fucking friend.
And earlier in life I was in my 20s and among plebs (and especially at that age), nobody cares if you're unmarried, don't have a house, etc. It is my strong suspicion that now that I'm well past 30, lacking these among white collar workers will cause me to be written off. You'd be surprised how important marriage remains among the rich third of America, even though men still understand it's a crapshoot. Even an old turbonormie CEO boss understood this.
>>28069941
Also i'm 23. University normies get better by the age of 21. From memory 18 -20 year olds were pretty jocky still
>>28070011
thanks for sharing, you're outlining all my fears from the inevitabilities of joining a white collar wage slave job. it's not the work, it's the social and office politics that I know i'll fail at and be ostracized for because of my lifelong inability to act like a normie.
>>28069337
Thanks. Nofap is one of many self-improvement things I've tried, with limited success. It did give me more energy and helped me think more clearly, and I do recommend it to others, though it made no real difference in my ability to function socially.
>>28069439
I know you're trolling but: Yes, absolutely. Normies have a social "sixth sense" that autists don't and cannot really develop. I can believe normies find this hard to understand considering social ability is something they've had their entire life and never had a reason to notice before. It'd be like trying to explain to a fish what "being wet" means.
>>28070184
What if there was some kind of academy for robots to learn normie skills?
What's hard for me about it is the feeling that you're unable to get along with people and the isolation.
My mom told me I had Asperger's when I was 12. I always knew I was different from other kids just in the sense that I was kind of weird, but the diagnosis was a really depressing answer to the question of why I didn't have many friends.
Now it keeps me from trying to go out and make friends because I might slip up without meaning to and they'll wind up thinking less of me, or worse I might really hurt someone else's feelings and they'll think I'm a bad person.
And I'm not the sort of guy who's gonna write it off like "sorry, Asperger's, ha ha", I'm better than to let my disability be an excuse.
It's just a lot of bullshit.
>>28070256
no academy can change the fundamental differences in our brain structure that prevent effective socializing. it's just a lifetime of faking it, never making it, and faking it poorly
This has got to be the most depressing thread I've ever read. Kind of threw me for a loop. Is this really what the average r9k user should expect in the workplace, or does high school truly never end?
>>28068034
>be 20
>newfag
> attend uni
>have a good 2 autist friends from HS and two other groups of friends
>1st groups mostly failed normies and a few robots and edgelords
>2nd group all normies and some chads
>muh sperglord accepted by 1st but taboo in the other
>severing ties with second even if there were good times in the past
guess putting a poker face helps but I fucking hate groupings in class tbqh
>tfw normies make fun of you all the time
I don't get this. where do you guys go to have this happen to you?
Even if I go outside I usually have no interaction other than saying hello and good day to the cashier.
>>28070455
if asked by a friendly normie, how would you explain your indifference to them senpai? for example if it is simply cultural indifference or being a sperglord is intolerable.
>I have more sperg friends than normies.
although one of them told me I'm a failed normie to an edgelord
>>28070643
it's when you make attempts to hang out with normies. they make fun of the most weird and socially awkward person, the person they deem not worthy of respect.
you're the person they laugh at and gossip about behind your back as well as in front of you. if they hang out with you later, a lot of it is as a pinata for their abuse, they dont find you fun, they find the verbal abuse and passive aggressive comments against you fun because it boosts their egos.
we live in a competitive world and everyone wants an easy target to feel better than. they wouldn't do it to a person with a physical deformity but a target with social deformity is fair game.
the only good I've seen out of this is surprising normies by doing the opposite of the thing they make fun of you for, just to fuck with their label of you they think is permanent and worthy of criticism. your personal successes are the best revenge and only way I can see to put normies (who are all just putting on an act themselves and have deemed your acting not good enough) in their place.
>tfw normies make fun of you all the time yet status jockey on facebook over ethnic minorities, homos, and now trannies.
I know this feel -- although in my experience it's more about isolating me. These people don't care about making a better world and doing the right thing. They just to feel good about themselves and get likes on their statuses.
>>28068399
Yep, your posts hit home with me anon. I'm 30 and starting to not take shit at work as much though. As a quiet introverted guy with pretty bad anxiety coworkers have always done their best to belittle me etc. etc. but now I just find ways to subtly point out how shitty they are at their job. I also try not to be so sensitive about shit and roll with the punches more.
>>28071275
Guaranteed your coworkers are already working on a plan to oust you as punishment for your trying to stand up for yourself. You won't even see it coming because autism.
>>28070480
I wrote the thing about working pleb jobs instead above. The nice thing about those is that you're among other people who also given up on life to some degree, and they're not really in a position to banter you about anything. It keeps your peers and even your immediate supervisors in check, is my point.
I haven't been in an office day-in day-out, but the basic point is that white-collar normies actually have something to live for and strive for, which makes them insufferable. There's a flip side to my above appreciation of pleb work: being obliged to serve high-powered normies. Another anon on here a week or two ago mentioned living in a city and working in food among turbonormies, forever yammering about their awesome new project, or going out on friday, etc. He ended his post thus: I am a shade. A bitter, hate-filled shade." And woe to the short bald bachelor who should have to work in their midst. Also youth culture has infested everything over the past 60 years or so, and so something resembling a "high school" mentality lingers.
There were two beta men who worked in this front office where I was. I never saw anything untoward being done to them, but even I could sorta feel that they were lower-caste. One boss, a very short asian man, really impressed me with his ability to wrangle much bigger white people in his midst, but even he got fed up (I guess, he kept that to himself) and got out eventually. I followed later.
>>28070643
That's a nice kitty
It was 2 or 3 years ago I gave up trying to understand other people. Everyone is peculiar and different to trying to waste my time wrapping my mind around how they all work just hurt my head. So long as I get along with someone i don't see any reason try and understand "how they tick". Best part is I've probably become more happy doing this than I ever was pretending to be a smug "ultra-genius"
>>28070480
Sorry anon... but high school never really ends. Even if you graduate college with excellent grades etc. the outgoing social ones who squeezed by will get better jobs (if a job at all) because it's all just a conglomerate of cliques in the end.
>>28071433
But muh superior intellect
>>28071319
meh, maybe... i don't really care at this point. I'll just move on. Plus I'm pretty much the only person at my job who knows what they're doing so they would be fucked.
26 soon and I'll forever be a barely functioning, virgin autist.
>tfw no siblings so not even they will show up at my funeral
>>28068820
I am 36, I am 6'4 and have always been skinny 2 years ago I did 2 cycles of roids, now I am 6'4 260lbs of rock solid muscle
when people start in with that shit these days I just give them this little sideways look I have perfected and if I think it's going to keep being a problem I say "why is it the little guys always want to pick on the big and strong"?
this has never failed to shut them up, now I basically can be a shy introvert but people think I am the strong silent type instead of the weirdo
worked for me
kind of like if you are poor and do weird shit you are crazy but if you are rich and do weird shit you are eccentric
people subconsciously respect muscles
>>28070863
>it's when you make attempts to hang out with normies.
How does one do this? I often get told to get friends to better my life but I have no idea how to make new friends.
Do you just walk up to people and ask them to be your friend? They would just end up thinking you're creepy.
The only way I can think of is getting into some kind of club or other social recreative activity, but that will end in me being excluded and alone just like school.
All friends I had were people that persuaded me talking to them. Literally asking to talk to them.
How does one make friends on their own?
>>28071396
Thank you, I hope you like this one as well.
>>28071661
>getting into some kind of club or other social recreative activity
This has worked really well for me in the past. I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand if I were you.
I think the trick is to pick an activity you genuinely enjoy doing and, ideally, are at least somewhat good at yourself. Then find a group that meets to do specifically that activity. It guarantees you'll have at least one thing in common with everyone else there and since you're all working on something together, it reduces the pressure to be constantly socializing.
>>28071485
no one likes a smug asshole, especially when everyone can tell that asshole is just talking out of his uneducated ass.
>>28071655
I spit in musclehead people's food when they're distracted.
Muscles<Cunning
>>28071885
you are welcome to do that, but to the point of the posts i was responding to; people basically don't ever pick on me to my face. And the guys who I know would do so if I were smaller ask me for tips on how to get in shape
but i can tell they won't stop party drinking or eating fast food and don't have the strength of will
>>28071756
>I think the trick is to pick an activity you genuinely enjoy doing
I don't really want to do this purely for the reason that my peers are likely way below my skill level.
Not that I normally would mind but their responses to my skill level, both positive and negative, are very unpleasant and make me feel uncomfortable.
Them being below my skill level would also mean that they aren't able to have discussions about on the same level I am and most likely would ask questions/advice on their work.
>>28068034
Oh fuck I know all these feels. Except I'm above all the non-manager normies on the workplace ladder, so when they try to pick on me I just throw it back in their faces or ignore them.
>tfw my boss is a robot and has my back
Do you older autists ever get used to the loneliness? I'm 24 and was totally okay with it until recently; now it seems like I jump between being indifferent to it and having my soul crushed by it every few weeks.
>>28068174
>>28068317
>>28068399
same, 33 here
>>28072558
>Do you older autists ever get used to the loneliness?
Yes. This is one thing that's gotten better for me as I've aged. Nothing really improves, but you naturally stop caring about it so much (or at least that's what happened for me).
Again I think this is more a matter of age and declining hormone levels than it is about "reaching enlightenment" or anything like that.
bump the comfy thread
>tfw trying to socialize
>tfw Calvin is still one of the only characters I've ever been able to relate to
>>28068034
>im so lonely
>but i wouldnt want a friend who is exactly like me
you have nobody to blame but yourself buddy, you spend a huge chunk of your day surrounded by people in your situation.
How many attempts have you made to befriend one of them?
Same OP
is anyone else pissed off by people self DXing themselves with autism. I swear to god most people who tell me they self diagnosed are just fucking wrong and they make our image worse than it already fucking is. The worst is when they say "oh I went to a doctor as well, the doctor said I didn't have autism, but I know I really do have it because the doctor was wrong" or some shit. Like the doctor told you you didn't have it for a REASON
>>28075645
Im pissed off about that, and especially self-diagnosed aspie girlz like to make themselves the face of the autist spectrum, when like females are only 15% of aspies and 25% of more severe autism. Not to mention these "aspie girls" don't go through what most autists do, and are just doing this for attention and beta orbiters.
>>28070933
>These people don't care about making a better world and doing the right thing. They just to feel good about themselves and get likes on their statuses.
What else can we do? Everything is falling apart. The more we progress technologically, the more we destroy the planet and ourselves. We are hurtling off a cliff and all we can do is accelerate it. There are over 7 billion humans and not one of us has the intellect to comprehend all the nuances of such a large global economy.
I think that most people know this on some (not necessarily conscious) level, and the hedonistic behaviours you're seeing are a defence mechanism. Humanity is fucked and we can't unfuck ourselves, so all we can do is laugh.
Freelance if you can or find something that you can support yourself with without having to interact with people. High school never ends and social skills trump everything else unless you're a genius. Sign up for section 8 so you can scrape by with the bare minimum.
