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>not voting bernie

The only people not voting bernie are scared of le bignose boogeyman or selfish cunts sitting on six figures +
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Agreed. When we were visiting my wife's son's father in prison, he told me to not vote Sanders because he's a jew. I calmly answered "so what?"
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>>27581763
>Voting for a man who refused to put an American flag in his office during the cold war and had a USSR flag hanging instead.
>Voting for a man who honeymooned in the USSR.
>Voting for a man who has a picture of the most famous American communist in his office.(Notice I said communist not socialist.)
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I'll probably vote for him because
>Clinton is a crazy woman who says sensationalist things to appeal to women
>Trump is an idiot who says sensationalist things to try to get into office
>Cruz is legitimately crazy

sanders is the only one who isn't completely two-faced or crazy this election
I mean, his economic and tax related policies are decent even if they create the race to the bottom, but that's a whole different issue about whether or not the US should play the game or just try to punish companies who game the system
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>>27581763
>thinking your vote actually matters
>still being so delusional you believe in the oligarchy doing the right thing
top kek m8, i wish i was 19 years old again
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>>27581884
>even if they create the race to the bottom

Where is the economic upturn in a political environment completely controlled by corporatists other than Bernie?

We've been in a race to the bottom for awhile now. At best, Obama nearly slowed it down.
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>>27581763
>Making a good salary is being selfish
Oh please, do go on.
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>>27581804
underrated post
kek'd hard
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>>27581884
While I won't vote for Trump, his latest talks about changes to our foreign policy are the best thing to come out of any of the currently running candidates. Using trade instead of gun boat diplomacy would be 1000% better. If he keeps it up, he could definitely have an advantage over the war mongering Clinton.
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>>27582661
Wallman meme is getting stale as shit.
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>>27582631
You are literally 12 if you think that brand of humor is witty or a rarity on this site.
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>>27582613
It is.

You can argue that being selfish is in your best interest, but you can't argue the literal definition of the word.
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>>27582758
How is it selfish?
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>>27582735
I'm literally 25
You're retarded
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>>27582758
Making a good salary is smart. Not selfish. Poor is codeword for poor decisions.
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>>27582661
Enjoy your 200% living cost increase.
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>free college for everyone
>all twenty-somethings now have college degrees, increasing the size of the college educated pool employers can pick from
>im one of those employers
>can hire these fucks for even less than i do now
vote bernie pls, i want to pay these college grad fucks even less than i do now
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The only people voting for Hernie are NEETS, male feminists and white people with a weird fetish for dark skinned foreigners.

Fuck outta my board, cuck.
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>>27582853
You're right. Better to follow the Clinton policy of piss in off other nuclear powers and entanglement with shitty allies who want us to fight their wars for them.
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>>27582848
Making a good salary can be both selfish and smart.

But anything you do for yourself is inherently selfish. You're making a good salary to provide for yourself. People have a tendency of giving the word selfish an automatically negative connotation when really it just means acting in self interest.
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>>27582877
>being an isolationist

I'm tired of this meme now.
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>>27582912
>implying non-interventionism = isolationism

KEK

In isolationism the country completely cuts itself off from other countries, shutting down trade, restricting international travel, cutting diplomatic ties, etc. It closes itself off from other countries save for a few. A good example is Best Korea.

A non-interventionist country, on the other hand, simply doesn't meddle in the affairs of other countries and remains as neutral as possible. They still keep trade, travel, diplomatic, and other international channels open, they just don't go sticking their nose in other countries' business like the US does. A good example is Switzerland.
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>>27581763
Not true I made less than thousand last year. Trump to bring back factory jobs because I failed the same math class 4 times. ;_;
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Venezuelan here.


You don't want socialism in your country desu.
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>>27582888
You're leaving out the "with disregard to others" part of the definition.
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>>27581763
>selfish cunts sitting on six figures +
whats the point in taking up a good career/job that pays high when some cunt with 7 kids from 5 different guys gets 90% of your pay?
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>>27584320
Venezuela has state capitalism, not socialism
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>>27584583
And what bernie wants is social democracy
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>>27581763
I'd vote for him if I thought voting did anything.
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>>27581849
Are you still one of these "hurr durr communism is evil" people? The cold war is over faggot
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>>27581849
You are aware that the cold war is over, right?
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>>27582870
back to /pol/ cuck
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>>27581763
originally upboated ;)
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>part of me knows that this country needs to get critically injured to become great again
>Bernie would either do exactly that, or pave the way for it
but i despise leftists and jews too much to vote for him
i'm gonna just sit and watch the show

>>27581849
holy shit this rustles me
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>>27582815
Proves the point, at twenty-five you should've been able to come up with original content instead of repeating stale content based on fallacies. The fact is bastardy is far more common among lower class whites, the kind that are stupid enough to support Drumpf. Liberals have fewer children out of wedlock and more lasting marriages>>27584320
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>>27584925
>implying I agree with >>27581804
Just because I enjoy ironic memes doesn't mean I agree with the politics
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>>27582856
>expecting us to believe that you are employing college grads
>lying on an anonymous image board
Playing make-believe is fun!
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>>27584781
The Cold War is over, yeah, but the point still stands. Communism doesn't fucking work, and you're a retarded faggot for thinking otherwise
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>>27585145
>they couldn't possibly be in a position to hire people, let alone college grads
somebody doesn't have visions of greater goals.
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>>27582856
There are countries where university is free or it costs less than 500USD per semester and not everyone there has college education
Trades are actually fairly big and college costs less than 200 usd per semester
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>>27585216
Say what you want, but you and I both know it isn't true :^)
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>>27585179
Then why are people leaving capitalist countries?
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>>27585242
>Trades are actually fairly big
in my country
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>>27585260
Elaborate. Which kind of people?
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>>27585179
Bernie seems to be in favor of democracy and democracy is not part of communism
Marx said it would lead to post capitalistic world iirc but communism is not democratic
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>>27585310
>Bernie
>in favor of democracy

Yes, because taking more of my money so dumbfuck kids can get free English degrees is totally democracy.
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>>27584925
>The fact is bastardy is far more common among lower class whites
objectively false. You are forgetting that majority of black people vote democrats
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>>27585340
I don't see how free education is not democratic
Please elaborate
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>>27581763
Hello fellow white Bernie voter
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>>27585310

There are different schools of thought. Just like you can't compare Hillary to Pinochet despite both technically being "pro capitalism", you can't compare Bernie and Stalin. Most communist ideologies that have had any kind of following post the Spanish Civil war have been hard-line anti-democratic, that is true. But a lot of original communist thinking, going back to Marx for instance, had a big emphasis on INCREASING democracy (democratic control over both politics AND the economy).

Bernie is a social democrat, though, which is more along what Scandinavian countries are doing and not even any "real" form of socialism - just capitalism with more wealth distribution and wellfare. Could work, could fail completely; depends on how you set it up - the devil's is in the details as always
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>>27585371
Free education is socialist, government giving the people basic needs for free
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I do think it's impressive how he hasn't visibly aged in 20 years
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>>27585371
>English degree
>education

Well played, sir. I had a good laugh at that.
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>>27585340
>more of my money
Well, unless you're super rich (you're not), you won't be affected that much.

Also, some of those kids will become doctors, engineers and businessmen who will improve the country (maybe even help you personally at some point). And those who get english degrees... well, fuck 'em, I guess.
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>literally being a cuck
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>>27585371
he's just buttmangled because the only thing keeping him gainfully employed is the relative scarcity of degrees caused by the american pay-to-play higher education system. if he actually had to compete he'd be fucked
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Stop this false advertisement. Nobody is voting for Bernie. He lost. Now I'm sure this is just again a bunch of ads.
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>>27585437
forgot the picture

ufkcingoriginal
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>>27585453
>literally
I hate that they changed the meaning of that so much because now I can't call out people like you and feel better about myself by being a grammar nazi
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>>27584543
you mean zoey quinn? haha, jk.

but seriously, that's not likely what it will go to at all. all of the money will provide a safety net for you, your family, and your friends which would not have existed otherwise. Plus, even if the lot of it is taxed, you will still gain a much higher standard of living than some junkie broad.
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>>27585418
The government does not provide you with water or food yet you claim it fulfils your basic needs
>>27585442
Why would that not be part of education?
Language is important
Also there is more to tertiary education than English
If you like STEM so much why not provide free STEM degrees?
>>27585414
Sorry I am not an expert on this
Never read any communistic work but it's on my to do list
I do agree that Bernie is not a socialist tho
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>>27585453
figuratively, and no, the right wing working class are cuckolds for the elite
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>>27585340
Investing in giving citizens a quality education is good in theory and leads to a stronger more prosperous nation on the cutting edge of technology and thought.
Unfortunately our Universities have been infiltrated by regressive SJWs poisoning our students minds wit their propaganda, so in our current situation I can see free education to be a disaster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmKlA_UnX8c
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>>27585487
What? I didn't say the government covers all my basic needs, nor do i want them to. I said the government covers education, which is a basic need.
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>>27582758
making the salary isn't selfish, refusing higher taxes is.
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>>27585453
she's too cute to be a trump supporter
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>>27585528
>I said the government covers education, which is a basic need.
So it should also cover tertiary education?
>>27585510
Not trying to spread hate but NDT is a very unlikeable person, his Twitter is filled with a lot of stupid posts, and he is not a real scientist
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>>27585554
>Not trying to spread hate but NDT is a very unlikeable person, his Twitter is filled with a lot of stupid posts, and he is not a real scientist

Who cares if he's likable, did you watch the video?
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>>27585554
Damn dude, you keep putting words in my mouth. No, I don't want free college.
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>>27585414
Mi general Pinochet would be better than Hillary, Trump or any other faggot out there.

>tfw you realize the great general is looking down upon you from the heavens
>tfw you learned Spanish so you can pray to him in the heavens
Un saludo, mi general.
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>>27585586
But you said that education is a basic need and that the Government covers it?
I don't understand
>>27585582
No
I just wanted to tell people to not care for him
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>>27585606
Elementary school is free, it is paid for by the government. College is not.
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>>27581763
He's not going to be able to do any of the shit he says he will. I'd rather have Trump in, because when he doesn't deliver it will ignite race war
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>>27584781
>>27584800
Is there anything worse than college students who have never paid taxes lecturing people about how "it's CURRENT YEAR grandpa, the cold war's over. socialism is hip again."

Socialism was evil then and it's evil now.
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>>27581763
I made this video specifically for Bernie fags.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qc9Ku3kUF4

Listen, friend. I know you have good intentions, but we all want the same thing. The difference between you and i is that i'll go out of my way to take it without costing another person, while you believe you're entitled to the success of others.

Communism is amazing, i love communism. Communism is equality, it's unity, it's family, but that is not what Bernie is supporting. Fundamentally, everything wrong with Bernie can be argued based on his ideal gun policies.
By removing equalized force from the hands of Americans, you make them unequal. Bernie is a globalist socialist, not a national socialist(what most Bernie fags would prefer, i think), the difference is that a national socialist, someone potentially similar to Trump, is elected via the common man to restore the nations liberties for those who have inherited the nation through several generations and conflicts. Someone like Bernie, or Stalin, gets elected through promises of free shit at the cost of freedoms. A globalist socialist like Bernie is the supreme merchant who has transcended the trade of goods and instead trades lives. By submitting your freedom to those who would dominate you, you are becoming the goyim which they(globalists, marxist) love so much.

You're not an American, you're not my brother, you're a normie.

I'm on discord 24/7 so please feel free to prove me wrong.
https://discord.gg/0uVp4EGHZmPMKha7
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>>27585472
Fuck off with this shit logic. I have a safety net: it's called a savings account. At the end of the day, I'd much sooner trust a bank or investment firm with my money than the government.
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>>27585627
Correct me if I'm wrong, but elementary wasn't free until the mid 1800s, and even then it was decried as socialism. Same with when in the mid 1900s they made highschool free.
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>>27585666
The difference here being college students are adults, and should be expected to both make decisions and accept responsibilities like adults.
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>The government is evil, corrupt, and controlled by the evil people with lots of money!
>Let's give the government a lot more power and take more money from the people to pay for more gender studies degrees!
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>>27585508
Depends. Many of them are middle class psychopaths who'd gladly see the poor & mentally ill starving on the streets, because "I ain't paying for them lazy bastards!". All you leftists who fellate the working class should realize that these people are inconsiderate subhumans. Only the upper classes have brought progress to society (not defending any policies, merely stating a fact).
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Mcafee is going to win you faggots are getting BTFO BY BASED MAC
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>>27581884
>being this economically illiterate
The country is just plain doomed.
At least I know he wont even win the nomination.
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>>27585587
Pinochet and people like him is seriously why I'm secretly scared of the right-wing cucks who worship the elite. Because it's been proven time and time again that when a dirt-poor peasant or worker has to chose between the tyrannical ruler who's boots he must lick and his own family who are supporting a leftist ideology - that dumb fuck will chose his Glorious Leader every time and sell out his own flesh and blood.

>>27585655
>i love communism
>is clearly natsoc
Hey, you do you ,man - apparently this board has decided that being a literal nazi is OK now and I ain't gonna change that in one post. So do your thing. But don't piss on my face and call it rain. It's right on my face, dude, I can tell it ain't rain.
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>>27585550
>implying she
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Who /Jon huntsman 2020/ here?
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>>27585825
I never said i was describing communism. Communism can be what ever i want to to be tho tbqh because communism is an abstract idea and cannot exist. Stalin and Hitler were both socialists, i didn't explain any further in that detail because it's so obvious that communism is a fairy tale.

>society without hierarchy
>existing
Pick one, which is why i went on to depict why i think most Bernie fags should prefer a nazi alternative to globalist socialism
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I am though. Caucased and donated 250$ to him.
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>>27585260
>this is the average bernie supporter
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>>27585260
Last time I checked Europe and the USA still had the most wanted citizenship (by a wide margin)

????
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>>27586081
Why did you donate so much you realize that your donation literally means nothing in the long run to his campaign right?
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>>27581884
>calling people you disagree with crazy
wanna know how I know you're not over the age of 20?
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>>27581763
> not voting /cuck/
INSERT INTO FAGGOTS(faggots, faggots) VALUES('faggots','faggots');
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>>27585952
Oh anon let that meme rest, it's tired! I mean it's a good meme so don't stop, but just give it a little break, we don't want the little guy to get worn out.

>>27586031
No you said you loved, and you don't, because you're natsoc. Despite the similarity in name the two are very different. The name similarity has more to do with trying to attract supporters - kind of like syndicalism and national-syndicalism (later fascism) are quite different but competed for support from the same population.

And while you have a point in "communism" being such an abstract idea with no clear definition, saying that it "can be what ever" you want it taking it too far - words do have some meaning and if you don't stick to it, you just confuse people.
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