So once you get depression (real depression, not just normie depression), is it pretty much game over?
Has anyone actually gotten over it?
>>27228300
its like losing that last bit of childhood innocence, being naive
no going back
If you think you can be saved then you can be :^)
>>27228300
I got over it, kind of. My life is a lot better today, and I genuinely have hope for the future for the first time in years. Life is no longer something I trudge through or endure, it is a gift I am thankful for today. But it is different than when I was a kid. I still remember the darkness. I still have those thoughts deep down that I'll always really be alone. I still have a lot of moments where I want to give up and say fuck everything. I still think about suicide maybe once a month instead of every single day.
tldr: it gets better, but you won't ever go back to how it was before
>>27228969
You can acknowledge those things and still be depressed, though.
it's like being an alcoholic.
You're never not an alcoholic.
You have to be careful around feels because they will fuck you up and ruin your life.
Welcome to the club pal.
Ive been taking meds since november and its helped. Pretty much doesnt make me give a fuck about anything
There's really no going back, even if it gets good you'll always find your way back to depression.
Depends on your prospects in life. I recently finished my appointments with my therapist because we really didn't have anything left to talk about. I'm better, but shit still sucks.
>>27228300
I've started lifting and hanging out with fellow autists and it's going alright
>>27229069
ah, well i think mine manifests as not giving a fuck about anything so that probably wouldn't help
90% of depression cases aren't actually depression so don't worry about it too much
>>27228300
you have to change everything. get out of your place, break up with all people, make new friends, new city, new job. repeat this until suddendly it works. no guarantees the depression wont come back again, but yeah, say goodbye to a stable life, youre an adventurer now. ENJOY
Can't remember the last time I was truly happy with myself and felt pride. But I have been working on my self confidence lately.
Just got to find a distraction that works for you.
Basically you dont give a fuck, nothing is enjoyable, and you feel trapped and always want to sleep and cry. I fucking hope it gets better.
Only if you're helped and your willing to get out of the bubble
You will always find moments of sadness but thats life, if have to take the bad with the good
Even though sometimes it will seem that there is no light
Just at the beginning of this December i was in such a state that I couldn't smile if my life depended on it, it was real dredd
Now I'm always in such a good mood that people ask me if I'm high
If you won't face the source of your depression without numbing your senses you will never grow as a person
>>27229650
>````distractions'''''
>hiding from your problems makes them go away
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Slipping into depression is like being overweight in that it happens over the course of many years, but it's much more difficult to correct. If you're fat all you have to do is work out and diet and the weight will melt off. If you're depressed, and especially if you've been depressed for awhile (years), then it takes an immense amount of hard work, every single day, to get out of it. Depression is tied to the deepest parts of your psyche, the shit about your life that is actually substantial (how do you spend your time?) and getting out of these routines is incredibly, incredibly difficult.
Often to dig yourself out you must brave through several nervous breakdowns, fits of anxiety (often in public), episodes of shame, feelings of fraudulence and failure, rejection (oh god so much rejection), and many other terrible experiences. But if you can run this gauntlet and keep yourself active and hard-working, you can usually bust out of a hardline depression after you work at it for the amount of time that you spent being depressed (i.e. if you were a depressed lazy worthless fuck for 5 years, it'll take you 5 years to get out, and that's 5 years of constant work).
>>27230737
Alternatively you can do what most westerners do these days and take pills. That is the easy way out, but it's also fraught with risk and side-effects and usually ends very badly, just like any other decision involving drugs.
>>27228300
I did it, i feel complete now, i'm so happy i don't need anything, i could die now without any regret, it was a never ending war of 24 years.
I had really bad depression for 12 years and I'm just starting to get over it. It takes a lot of work to put it behind you. Nowadays I find that honest self reflection helps keep my depression in check.
>>27230737
What's the point? Especially when you're going to come out into a body that's older, more tired, cynical, more full of aches and pains?
How is suicide not rational here?
I've gotten over it, there is a trick to it that I have discovered.
There are two ways to achieve happiness. You can either change the conditions around you to better suit your desires. Or, you can simply change your desires, or better yet, eliminate them. I got over my depression by turning my self-loathing into self-indifference. It's selfishness that creates the pain of greed and desire that fuel your hopelessness and sadness. Instead of hunting for stability, love, and all the other things normal people strive for, I chose another route. I do not yet know where this will take me, but it is better than any alternative, and I do not regret it.
And no, you do not have to cut out all your emotions in order to side step sadness. I can still feel happiness at times, but if not for this change of mind, I would hopelessly depressed.
If you can eliminate all the selfish goals in life you have and replace it with something else, and work towards that goal for the rest of your life, you will be much better off.
I could be completely wrong though. Maybe it's not selflessness that saved me from grueling depression, but I'd like to think it did, and it can save you from depression possibly if you can manage to become truly selfless.
>>27228300
I have yet to go on full-blown meds, only mushrooms and Salvia, but it's manageable.
For a few years of your life you'll kick the shit out of it and live a life and feel like you never were depressed in the first place. You have a job and a girlfriend and friends and hobbies and a life and you care about things.
Then one day something not really all that important happens and you spend the next two years pissing in bottles in your room while watching the same anime series for the 15th time and daydreaming about a better life and/or killing yourself.
Then you get out of it. Hopefully.
It's like being a smoker/ex-smoker. That craving of smoking is ALWAYS there, some days more than others.
>>27230964
Sure anon, suicide is an option. Go right ahead and slit your wrists.
What's that? You're afraid? You don't like blood and pain and a terror the likes of which you can't even imagine? Hm. Well then you can continue being totally miserable your entire life or you can change the state of things. Or you can half-ass it and fail and give up "until further notice" like most of the anons on this board :^^^^)
I beat depression. From 14-20 I was constantly in a dark place of self loathing and I tried to kill myself twice but both times I failed. I got out of it by finding religion. This gives me purpose for life and meaning to my suffering. So now I don't let my fear of failure confine me to a bed, I have the courage to live a real life
Nobody can solve this for you man, you gotta beat this demon by yourself. But if you don't, your fucked, so why not try fix it?
>>27231015
>I got out of it by finding religion.
Maybe you should have just killed yourself, you slime.
>>27231047
I don't mean to push religion on anyone, that's what worked for me, but you gotta find what makes you get out of bed each morning
>>27230638
Since when is hiding a thing that a robot would find objectionable?
>>27230974
>That craving of smoking is ALWAYS there, some days more than others.
I have the same problem but with sucking your dad's cock.
>>27231084
Go to bed mom, you have work in the morning
>>27231084
My father died last week.
I felt a lot less depressed when I was eating healthier, sober, sleeping better, and getting regular exercise. So yes, you can get over it, but if you are an addict of the many bad things in life like myself (drugs/booze, junk food, late nights, laziness), it will always been an uphill struggle. You may or may not have an idea about how hard it is to say no to mind altering substances the longer you stay sober. It's just like, "yeah I've been sober for awhile, if I just do it once-!" And then you never even learn from it.
>>27231111
EPIC FUCKING LOL XDXDXDDXD
MEMEMEMEMEMEMES!!!@@@!!!!
Well it takes a long ass time but you'll get out of it eventually, it takes so much hard work and shit though, so you have to be up for that.Walking really helps(for me at least) just walking laps in a backyard or around the block while listening the music really helps you think and clear your head for a while.For me I had depression for over seven years and it was total hell, you will go through suicidal moments or thoughts and you will struggle but you will get over it eventually.
I just want to sleep and never wake up, im so tired.
>>27230988
>>27230737
this shit should be stickied on every suicide forum
>>27228300
I beat depression a few years ago. Had it for nearly ten years. I hated everything and everybody during it because of my anger issues. It was super hard to get through but having someone (friend, therapist etc.) makes it so much easier. Plus everything is awesome when you get past it. It made me stronger having to go through. Only consequence was I have a great poker face. Just hang in there buddy.
>>27228300
I did.
I hated everything, wanted to die and had zero motivation to do anything for about 7 years. Went to many psychologists, tried many meds, etc. Nothing really helped.
I think my depression grew out of seeing how shitty life is and how horrible people are. I slowly adopted an 'enjoy the decline' kind of mindset and just resolved to do things I wanted to do - accepting everything sucks and nothing really matters and creating an enjoyable existence despite that.
>muh sads
You'd think after a thousand threads of you failed normalfags crying over this shit, it would stop being funny.
>>27231253
>animegirlposting
You seem to have gotten lost, this isn't the "I love tranny dick in my mouth" thread
>>27231243
How did you get out of it?
>>27228300
getting over real depression is purely a matter of willpower
so yes it is gameover unless you are able to abandon all hope, accept reality and go for the final non-normie destination
>>27231309
I think he simply accepted that life is utter shit and that you might as well just enjoy the few things that make you entertained.
it's not real depression if you can get over it lmao
i go through weeks and sometimes months when i feel fine, but it always comes back pretty hard
>>27230638
>browsing 4chan for 16 hours a day so i dont think about how much i hate myself and my life makes me a normie
lol????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>>27231309
It can be difficult to get yourself out of the hole because after so many years of doing everything that's supposed to help and it doing nothing for you at all, it's easy to just give up.
It takes a lot of thought and introspection but I think the first step is changing your mindset somewhat. I personally finally came to the conclusion that things suck but I can still enjoy life in this shitty world.
After that, I realized that I was ready to fix myself and again started doing all the things you're told to do. I started lifting, hiking, surfing again. Went back to a therapist. Are properly. Got enough sleep. Went outside every day etc.
Things I'd been forcing myself to do for years while depressed but had eventually given up on due to hopelessness.
This time my mind was in the right place for these things to actually help and as I started to feel better I started to enjoy things more. Eventually I was just happy.
It's hard to explain but it was kind of like the puzzle was missing a piece but once I found it (the right mindset) I could slowly fit the other pieces around it. If that makes any sense at all.
>be young
>have so much energy i could stay at friends after school,go home,play computer then go to cousin's for dinner
>be current age,25
>cleaning up my room and a 5 min walk and i feel like my body is giving up
>>27231665
What's your diet, sleep and exercise like?
>>27231751
i sleep enough, and i eat fairly ok and i barely exercise
i think i have fiberlomagyia and its killing me
>>27231780
Hmm that sucks fan.
I was just going to suggest sleeping more, lifting and eating right as that increases test and metabolism which can help energy levels but if you have that then best of luck my man.
>>27229548
I wouldn't go this extreme but it does take serious changes to beat it
I failed out of college and my girlfriend dumped me. This was all compounded on two years of worsening depression in college being alone in my room all hours of the day.
I was preparing to kill myself. I had some propane burners and a tarp that I was going to make a tent with. CO poisoning coupled with some hydrocodone seemed like a good way to go.
After I failed out of college I moved back home and my parents made me get a job and start seeing a shrink. Changing environments from college (which I had begun to see as hell on earth) back to home made a huge difference and I'm much better now than I was.
I don't think anyone that's been truly depressed ever really gets over it though. Pure undiluted happiness seems like a certain brand of naivete now. You just sort of learn to live with it, because next to dying with it, that's your only option.
>>27231931
Yeah, my happiness now is different.
Gone are the days of my youth where the world was this wonderful place in which everything is just grand and pure joy abounds.
Even though now I'm very happy it's always tempered by how I view the world and I could never go back to blissful ignorance even if I wanted to.
>>27231931
Close to yours, but I haven't managed to really learn how to live with it.
It sucks, especially when there's some people who act like it just my own stupidity. It is, but at the same time it's not. And holy shit don't get me started on "that" kind of relatives. All their preaching without even trying to understand any.
But yeah, the other option is to die with it
>>27228913
This is the correct response, though it's not like you don't stop being depressed.
The way I see it, depression represents the onset of adulthood from a childhood you didn't have, and the breakdown of the value system you were brought up with. If you live like most robots, a reasonably good childhood in which you were a little 'off' and were brought up by parents who instilled in you a value system that is, for lack of a better phrase, very "blue-pill", when you grow up and realise that you never achieved the childhood you knew your parents wanted you to have, and you realise the value system your parents tried to instill in you not only didn't give you a normal social development in childhood but didn't prepare you to enter adulthood as a normie, you react by dulling all the pain that's been welling up inside you for so long. It's a coping mechanism to realising that trying to be a normal kid failed and now you're entering adulthood without any of the normal socialisation you were supposed to have.
Or maybe this is just me. But I got depressed when I was 19 and I realised that I entered second year uni without any opf the normal childhood experiences and without knowing how to interact in the way normies my age act. I'm goal oriented. I interact with goals, and I didn't learn that normies don't have goals when they interact; or they do, but there's no difference between those goals and the things they do without thinking.
That doesn't mean it doesnt ever stop; but I don't think you'll ever be the same after depression hits. you'll be a depressed person who isn't depressed anymore. You'll just have learned to cope by accepting the values you were raised with-doing right, trying hard, being genuine and upstanding-don't mean much to people when you have to try extra hard to do those things because normies internalise them from a young age and you don't.
What you do to get over this is just accept this, and never forget what it was like to have hope.
>Used to come home and my mom and sister were happy to see me and we talked
>Moved out a couple months ago and live with nobody now
>Everyone everywhere hates me
>Haven't seen a friendly face in 2 months
>Get very little sleep because I'm drawn to my monitor reading /r9k/ like a moth flittering close to an open flame in the dark
>One day /r9k/ will consume me like the flame consumes the moth
>>27233344
move back home? i'll end up doing that soon as soon as i get kicked out of uni.
I got over it with pills. I'm taking Nardil which completely cured it. SSRIs only reduced it by about 50%.
Your chances of curing it without medication are really really low though, IMO.
>>27228300
You never get "over it".
There's no cure for legit depression, especially if it is genetic. There's only ways to mange it, and that is a something only you can figure out and no doctor will.
Good luck OP
> I've had depression for most of my life, it runs on my mom's side of the family and I was unfortunate enough to inherit it.
>>27228300
Yep
>nearly failed school
>dropped out of society and wanted to die
>forced to work and started going to gym
>literally breaking down crying most days and nights and drinking whenever possible
>get rejected from military
>now back to old ways of drinking and binge eating every day
I have no idea what I want. I think I want to stay in my room and be drunk 24/7. I don't know if I can survive being normal so it may be the end of the road here.
>>27228300
Fucking normie. You don't "get" depression.
Either you are born with it or you aren't.
You don't escape it.
You just work despite it, suffering every day, until the day comes that you've agreed that you can finally kill yourself because, well, at least you've given life a go.
Over it? no. Cough medicine helps, gonna do some later today
>>27235796
oh look at mr hardcore robot, been depressed since he was an infant
>>27235827
I used to smoke weed every day and blame my problems on that, or that I was depressed without it I mean.
Then I took a couple months off and realized I was just depressed because I did nothing with my life BUT smoke weed. That my life was devolve of real feeling so I created one with pot and alcohol.
Now I've learned that as long as you can do at least 1 productive thing in your day, you feel so great it makes the high even better when you do smoke (I've switched to a vaporizer too though). So now all I do is try my damndest to get to 10000 steps every day. Usually meaning I walk on the treadmill for an hour or so on top of everything else. Dropped about 35lbs so far, cut back on vaping to only my days off work and really feel great.
When your subconscious labels you as a real failure, it outs you into a depression. The end goal of your inner, unspoken mind is to get you to change something since it knows you're fucking up. Live a life with meaning. Even a small meaning like exercising a bit every day can take you out of depression because it's a change. Soon I'll get depressed with this kind of life, I'll be depressed again until I make another good change into the man I'm SUPPOSED to be rather than the one I have been.
>>27235920
while the post you were replying to clearly is retarded, I believe to have read that infants actually can suffer from depression
>>27228300
The worst part is thinking you're snapping out of it
and then having life crush your soul before you can even let out a smile.
>>27235959
that would be interesting to read about
>>27231122
i can attest to this. i still have depression and have weeks of feeling like shit and unable to do anything. but the mental pain is less.
however it took almost a year of constant excersise, eating healthy, fixing sleep. you wont see any difference in the first few months. i dont know if it was worth it though. im still friendless kv.
I don't know man.
I try to fill my daywith shit so I can try to ignore it. Drawing pretty much every chance I get is at least a constructive distraction.
How the hell does it get better over time? You only get older in time and nothing ever gets good.
>>27228300
Only cunts that still cling to dreams and buy into the hope of a better life have "real" depression. I have no life whatsoever but I am not delusional enough to be depressed due to this.
>>27228300
Normie "depression" as in just an extended period of melancholy or actual depression where you find it literally impossible to enjoy anything and feel mostly apathy and fatigue? The former is pretty fucking easy and is usually circumstantial, the latter is where you run into problems.
The only thing that really works is a massive dose of LSD + MDMA. Like 400ug + 200mg. After that night you will be content with your existence.
>>27239136
but then youll believe in stupid shit like new age spirituality or magic
ive seen it happen to 4 people i knew personally
>>27228300
depression is just a meme illness
>>27228969
>darkness
Stopped reading right there.
>>27239160
but are they still depressed?
>>27228300
I got over it but unfortunately I had it for so long that I absorbed it into my personality. I will always be cynical, paranoid and unambitious.
You can always sink right back into it at a moments notice, though. That's where shit like exercise comes in. While you're depressed, it won't do shit. But if you're not depressed then it's a good way to prevent it.
>>27239244
they werent really depressed in the first place
the person i do know who has depression who experiments with psychedelics is still depressed and doesnt believe in magic though
if youre a robot and you have anxiety youre just going to get paranoid and have an awful trip if you try psychedelics anyway or there's a good chance of that at least
>>27239136
>this approach worked for me and it will work for you and everyone else as well, regardless of brain chemistry and life circumstance differences!
I fucking hate you people who tout psychedelics as a magic bullet for depression. Drugs are rarely the answer.
>>27239160
Maybe if you have a weak mind
I took it like 3 dabs my first time and dropped out of school for like a year because it was so intense and gave me ego death, but recently i was hired for a 12$ an hour entry level job and am mostly sane. I get flashbacks sometimes and lucid dreams, sleep paralysis etc but I say the experience improved my life overall
bitterness is worse than depression
I got over my depression of more than 3 years
It's not like I tried
I mean, I got through many kinds of medication and therapy, once in an institution after ER
It was just another day, I went out for a smoke in the morning and looked at a tree by my house
Started appreciating and noticing the small things in life, birds weren't pissing me off anymore
After that it stayed this way
There is hope anon
I'm still antisocial and anxious to leave my house and on bad days even my room
There is also constant fear that it'll come back
Every once in a while I just feel nothing, like I'm an empty shell
Sometimes I even miss it
But in the end, I'm grateful it's over
>>27239291
Not op but if the person feels OK with it they should try it out. If they're not comfortable they should avoid it
>>27239482
Can you even cure bitterness?
>>27235796
>Either you are born with it or you aren't
while there might be some genes at play the biggest reason people are depressed is because of improper parenting in their very early youth, stuff that seems stupid, like constantly changing caregivers (because of daycares) are harmful to a child. If you go back to how much a 6 months old child can perceive, "loosing" your mother and not being able to understand she will come back to pick you up in the evening is pure terror. There's all sorts of things we do in the way we raise kids that just primes them for depression.
However this is kept under silence for a number of reasons. First and foremost, people who are parent themselves are usually extremely defensive of the way they parent. And those fuckers still make up 90% of society.
>>27239582
nope, and worst of all, you can hide it very well
you can act normal real easily, but everytime something hits you (like normies talking about sex, richfags, idk), it will sting you from the inside
>>27228300
You can get better,but never as good as you were before.
>>27228300
>Has anyone actually gotten over it?
Nah, you just start taking antidepressants that leave you as a lobotomized empty shell for life.
>>27230737
That is extremely fucking accurate. Same age too,19 is when i reached the point of no return. I made a last ditch effort at having a normal youth before that. Actually got a GF, started socializing (in a robotic way helped by alcohol). Eventually my gf realized I was off and left me. I remember her saying "you are such a down, negative person.) I tried my best to mask it, but when youre with someone all the time you cant help but let your real self show. Anyway im 22 now and havent had a gf or friends since. My life is grey. All my actions and responses are thought out, I am no longer guided by natural emotions.
No but I've turned it into a thing where I walk around at night imaging I'm a serial killer like Ted Bundy.
>>27228300
Yes. Medication and getting as much sunlight as possible. Also you have to occupy your mind with something. Just force yourself to do it.
Depression is an awful self defeating cycle of, "do nothing, panic about the future, feel powerless" and repeat. The only way is to break the cycle and even when you do you're nothing but a lifeless shell of the person you used to be. Depression takes so much from you and you'll never be the same even if you somehow claim to escape it. It will always be in the back of your mind, slowly creeping up, until it consumes your facade of happiness completely.
>depression is the ultimate redpill
>>27228300
2 years and I just cant feel anything anymore. I just feel like an animal trapped and atruggling against the wire biting into its neck. If I atruggle it only makes me die faster, and maybw thats a good thing.
>>27228300
Had it for nearly 9 years now
It doesn't get better. Some of the side effects become less noticeable or less frequent but you're never truly free of it.
>deactivated my facebook a while ago
>go back on to talk to the weed man
>2 notifications, 0 messages, 0 friend requests
>>27228300
you can check out anytime you like but you can never leave
(fucking amazing guitar solo)
>>27240526
http://ponybradshawmusic.bandcamp.com/track/josephine
Got to be happy as a man alone.
When you find yourself the happiness will follow.
>>27228300
It's either you don't get over it, or you make yourself think you got over it.
There's no such thing as truly beating depression
>>27228300
Long-term depressive here.
from 13- 33, I was depressed.
Yes, I got over it.
I still get sad sometimes, which is much much better.
Just snap out of it, pal.
I am interested to hear on how to get back. I don't want to be like this anymore.
You think it's going to pass but after more than 10 years I do fear of dying alone, I am terrible company to myself.
Who has gotten over this?
