Remember, you have the power to control outcomes in your life, anybody who tells you otherwise does not have your best interest at heart
Don't even bother.
These people are too caught up in their self pity to try and do anything about their situation.
>WAHHH YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND MY PAIN
>MILLIONS OF PEOPLE GO THROUGH IT BUT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND MY SINGULAR SPECIAL SITUATION
>WHY EVEN TRY IT'S NOT WORTH IT
The people here are too caught up in society's idea of what you need to be happy, and they're so deep in their own shit that they shat out themselves to even try.
The only people I sympathize with are people with actual disabilities that need physical help to do anything.
All these self diagnosing frog posters can fuck off and die.
If you try to help them they just call you normies and tell you to get out because you cannot possibly know what they go through.
>Remember, you have the power to control outcomes in your life
If this was true, my life wouldn't be as bad as it is now.
Starving children wouldn't be hungry
Crippled people would be walking
Bla bla bla bla blah
>>26561120
>le free will meme is true
No. It isn't.
>>26561207
How is it wrong though?
You WON'T ever truly understand how I feel, as I won't ever understand how you feel. You can comprehend it unless there was a machine that made you feel as I do.
>>26561207
So what.. are you saying they don't have free will? I thought you were agreeing with OP?
>>26561244
>You need to go through the same exact thing to feel the same way.
You're wrong.
>>26561332
Way to miss the point.
Feelings aren't objectively measurable nor quantifiable. No matter how much I tell you I feel a certain way, it's impossible for you to comprehend it.
If I said I feel real fucking happy or sad right now, to what extent would you know my happiness or sadness?
>>26561120
>everyoner gets a hapy ending
im sorryn but this is not true
>>26561384
You're fucking retarded.
Look up empathy and fuck off.
Saying that no one can understand your deep and special pain is fucking stupid because it's a fact you're not the only to be feeling it even at this second. I don't know anything about you except that you don't understand how life works.
No shit i can't fucking tell how sad or happy you are, i'm not with you, fucking mong.
How happy am I, can you tell from your computer screen? Retard.
You're not even going to be the last one to feel exactly how you feel.
You're not special. Stop trying to be.
You were born and you'll die just like everyone else. You don't feel more or less than what others are capable of feeling. Whatever youre feeling right now, someone else is too.
It doesn't matter what it is. That's just a fact.
So keep telling yourself that no one can help or understand, i'm sure you'll get all better by yourself.
The only impossible thing here is to get you retards on this board to understand you can get help because you're not the only you out there.
>>26561556
Holy shit, how fucking retarded is this guy? I made my point real fucking clear, yet you still don't seem to get it. I'm not stating I'm a fucking snowflake. I'm saying the only person who can TRULY understand how you feel is yourself.
And empathy is based around and formulated on your own feelings. Multiple people won't empathize to a certain situation the same way because there own emotions and feelings are different. I can empathize with robots in this board. But how far does my empathy go? How far can I understand a robots trouble or grief?
>No shit i can't fucking tell how sad or happy you are, i'm not with you, fucking mong.
Even if you were with me, how would you know and understand how I feel unless you were me without your own personal bias?
>So keep telling yourself that no one can help or understand, I'm sure you'll get all better by yourself
Yeah, that's exactly what happens. Most people who "recovered" from depression or strife usually do it on there own accord because most people can't reach out to them or know how to help them because they don't know how that individual is feeling.
>The only impossible thing here is to get you retards on this board to understand you can get help because you're not the only you out there.
If it was so simple, then why are people in therapy or group meetings still miserable or in trouble?
>>26561120
For the most part I agree with you, but social mobility is real thing.
Unless some of the people here on r9k are right down in some of the lower socio-economic parts of society than yes, it is for the most part fairly in their control to elevate their position.
Otherwise if they are at the bottom, they can still do it, but the barriers in doing so are so much higher socially, economically and even mentally too.
>>26561556
whats next? le "i weant through the SAME THING" meme?
>Remember, you have the power to control outcomes in your life
What am "I"?
>>26561120
- a typical normie
Reminder that there's an agenda against the people on this site and this board in particular, perpetuated by corporate/political interests, to keep people bogged-down in mental distress and encourage unhealthy behavior to further destabilize society.
Remember robots, always ask yourselves: "Will this better me? Will this improve my life?"
>>26561234
Would you happen to be gnostic? If there was proof for this claim, we'd know of it by now. Hard determinism is not absolute.
Life is like a choose your own adventure book, except the nosy dickhead Chad is sitting behind you trying to force you to pick the dumb choices he wants
>>26561120
Death is in me.
I have seen my own heart and it is a dead black stone.
Leave this place and never return.
>>26561120
Yes, just buy more money.
>>26564063
Money is not a necessity for principled existentialism.
>>26561120
>he still believes in free will
kek
>>26562991
Even if determinism isn't true there's still no free will.
Either everything is part of one long causal chain, in which case there's no free will, or some things are uncaused, meaning our wills, desires, and actions can't be the cause of those things.
Neither of those allow free will.
>>26564202
Neither of those scenarios are incompatible with free will. Quantum mechanic determinism leaves room for at least limited determinacy, as willing is not necessarily mechanical & quantum determinacy is not absolute.
>Either everything is part of one long causal chain, in which case there's no free will
Causality is compatible with a person willing when the action of the agent results in the outcome, see agent causation. Limited metaphysical determinism of selection events means room for interceding influence to act deterministically.
>>26564202
Nice tautologies you've got there, m8.
>>26561120
Oh so I can turn my species into something other than cancer and stop feeling like the only sane alien on a planet of retards? No? Yeah, that's what I thought.
>>26564542
To add a more philosophical approach, it's uncertain whether cognition is epiphenomenal, or whether the soul is a self-governing entity subject to selection events. I suppose it does not matter whether you choose to believe in free will or not since we cannot be certain whether it exists, just as long as you do not believe the dictation of lack of moral responsibility, because as you'll see in conducted studies, lack of belief increases the potential of acting immorally.
>>26561120
so if i buy a lottery ticket i can control if i win?
>>26565000
I believe he's referring to valid existentialism.
>>26565081
Nah, OP's just a normalfag pleb who's had everything handed to him his entire life including his character that just happens to match 99% of the species so he fits in with all the retards and has interpreted this as his own genius in figuring out how life works. It's not existentialism, it's just sophistry.
Noone is omnipotent. That's New Age positive thinking bullshit. And the modern world is cracked as fuck. The species is broken, fallen, evil and totally dysfunctional, especially the males who have become almost TOTALLY amoral at this point.
>>26565176
He seems to forget that things like luck, nepotism etc. exist. For example, an ignoble position in a meritocracy is not necessarily always deserved. He worded it poorly, but it's not as if he doesn't have a point. Most everyone here could be lifting, reading, & improving themselves overall, which would better their chances of achieving something substantial more than browsing here all day complaining about the circumstances would.
>>26565340
He doesn't have a point. How your fucking body looks doesn't affect whether or not the world you have to live in is vile or the people around you are exclusively morons or sociopaths. You can read and lift as much as you fucking want, but if you have ANY amount of morals or intelligence, your life is going to be pure hell and you will die alone. Fortunately, for most of you, you'll never have to worry about that.
>>26565437
>How your fucking body looks
You can lift for a well-functioning mind & body, not just for appearance.
>the world you have to live in is vile or the people around you are exclusively morons or sociopaths
Perspective can be reformed. I used to be consumed by these things before learning to deal with them practically.
>if you have ANY amount of morals or intelligence, your life is going to be pure hell and you will die alone
Most prominent philosophers would disagree with you. Read Nicomachean Ethics & Either/Or.
Always remember robots, you can change you life. It's incredibly difficult and highly likely you'll fail, but it's not technically impossible.
>>26566079
>highly likely you'll fail
Why do you say this discouraging garbage? Unless you would choose to adhere to negativism due to cognitive distortion, you have almost a certain chance of changing your perspective & situation overall for the better, situation being changeable just by the refining of perspective. At least you're right about it not being easy, but life is not easy, & a miserable life of inaction & the regret which tags along with it would certainly be no easier.
>>26566323
fuck, this post actually hits me hard.
>>26565340
>Most everyone here could be lifting, reading, & improving themselves
I did all that stuff and none of it felt good and none of it got me laid.
>>26564542
>Causality is compatible with a person willing when the action of the agent results in the outcome,
It's incompatible with libertarian free will and doesn't allow you to get what you want to want, so it's a joke kind of "free will" that does nothing but justify sadism.
>Limited metaphysical determinism of selection events means room for interceding influence to act deterministically.
Is that interceding influence free of its genetics and conditioning? Because if not, that's not free will. It's how the interceder was raised and the genes, neither of which he chose.
>>26566784
I've noticed that once lifting becomes routine, it also becomes addicting, due to the endorphins released & the feelings of achievement & potency gained, as well as the body & mind feeling weaker as a result of not physically maintaining them. Perhaps you were not lifting hard or long enough. If you improve solely to get laid, perhaps you should change your goal for something more achievable in the short-term. Self-improvement by these means should really be made into a lifestyle if you hope to reap considerable benefits.
>>26566838
That depends whether cognition happens to be a nascent epiphenomenon of the brain, & it may not be. It would not mean you're free of mauvaise foi either. You may be prone to your body's tendencies, but in theory you've still choice in what it could allow, which provides at least some limited version of free will. "Free" means for the agent that willing adequate outcomes are at least a live choice.
>>26561213
Most of those starving children don't have the internet, while NEET's here could literally google "where to get free food/how to get food stamps". The internet isn't just for porn, yo.
>>26561120
>you have the power to control outcomes in your life
I didn't choose to have depression
>>26561120
>you have the power to control outcomes in your life
ISHYGDDT
