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Porn addiction, No Fap/No Porn. You guys realize this is aimed
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Porn addiction, No Fap/No Porn.


You guys realize this is aimed at normal people right? It's aimed at normal people who already are surrounded by women, socialize, go out, have girlfriends, have wives, do all that normal stuff. It's meant for those types of people because those can start to get addicted to porn and then they start stopping what they do normally.


But what about us? The guys that have never had friends, have never had a GF, never socialize, dont know how to socialize, will never have a GF or get married, will never live a normal life, those of us ostracized from society by our own lack of communication/social skills due to a history of terrible experiences.......fapping and porn is all we fucking have....not doing these things wont fucking improve our lives whatsoever, it isn't suddenly going to make us out-going and social.


TDLR: Nofap/noporn is for normalfags.
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Honestly I agree

When I tried NoFap it made me want to completely remove my sex drive. I wanted sexual arousal to completely disappear. I tried hard to find a community where other people tried the same thing but it as all religiousshit.
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Masturbation causes poor memory.

Fap addict here..
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>>26546387

the availability of internet porn is what ruined this generation of males. this kind of explains all the break downs that happened since the boom of the public internet in the mid 90's to now.

getting porn on 14.4k to 56k dial up to high speed internet that streams whatever you search for, the porn industry boomed with the onset of public internet.

it went from picture porn to high def video porn instantly available by just having a computer and an internet connection.

this is why this generation of men are so lost, it's because they are lost in porn.

i've just explained why everything went so wrong from the 90's to now with young men.
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>>26546484
This is true

It also makes you go bald, and increases your risk of getting shot by 47%

t. masturbation victim
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>>26546493
I see a lot of "these things occurred at the same time" and not a lot of explaining how they are connected
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and there is no regulatory body with porn, people just produce what sells with no regulation at all. internet porn has been kind of a free for all, and many young men lost their early teen lives to internet porn.

this is how "robots" are created. masturbating to one porn video quickly becomes an addiction and you spend your days and nights in front of the computer looking at more porn, always more porn, and soon your younger teenage years have gone by while they were lost surfing the internet for more porn.
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>>26546569

basically instead of pursuing relationships, young men just stayed at home and masturbated to porn and porn is an addiction.

their bodies atrophied, and their teenage years are lost in video games and porn.

this is how the robot generation was created, this lifestyle of video games and porn consuming their teen years.
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>>26546612
Again, that's just saying taking two things that happened and trying to find a theory that fits them together
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>>26546612
Where is the evidence? And frankly, the TEDTalk is speculative and unscientific as fuck
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>>26546638

no its not, it's exactly what happened. just saying "that's not true" isn't an argument.
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>>26546652
I'm saying that your argument lacks actual evidence beyond two things occurring at the same time.

Without evidence I can't make an argument either way
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>>26546649

i don't need to prove anything to you, you are free to believe what you wish.
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>never had friends
>never had a girlfriend
>constantly bullied throughout my life
>rejected by every single girl i ever approached (~15 or so)
>almost 30, only not a true robot because i fucked a prostitute
>i'm somehow supposed to believe porn is why i'm like this

let me guess, violent video games are corrupting our youths too?
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>>26546668
>>26546690

i'm not going to teach you your abc's, if you don't understand what i'm saying then you don't understand.
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>>26546709
Talking down to me doesn't provide any evidence either
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>>26546722

i'm not going to give you evidence, go find it yourself.
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I am 29 years old. I grew up in a time without highspeed internet. It had nothing to do with how I turned out or for my lack of social skills. You guys are just looking for an easy target to blame. Like how people blame violent video games for causing people to be killers.

It's too hard for you guys to comprehend that it's just mental health issues. Not anything else.

For me, I watch a few minutes of porn once every 2-3 days. I've lived a socially retarded autist before porn and I am still one after porn. It has nothing to do with it. If suddenly there was no porn I still would not go outside and start trying to pickup women because I have absolutely zero idea how to do it. I don't have any way of going out, I have no "going out" clothing. I have no friends to go out with. You just don't get it. My life is absolutely no different with or without porn. Oh wait, there is 1 difference...I have to use my imagination instead...big deal, it still wont get me out of the house and making friends and speaking to women, because IM just too far gone for that.


No porn is for men whose lives actually become negatively affected by porn. IE: They're normal people and porn starts turning them into not-so-normal.

Noporn has no effect on a person who was born not-normal in the first place.

Noporn reminds me of the whole "dont eat sugar" meme. As if sugar makes you fat.......you're focusing on the wrong thing, calories make you fat, not sugar, dummies.
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>>26546709
everything is about looks; how much you masturbate doesn't fucking matter. that's why shy retards who never speak have gfs because they are cute
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>>26546742

they are shy retards because they spent their youth masturbating to porn and playing video games with all their free time.
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I don't know how anybody does it. I can't sleep at night if I go two days without jacking it
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>>26546730
>present a statement as fact
>get asked for evidence as to why the statement is fact
>"google it fucktard"

People like you are worse than actual trolls
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>>26546769

no, i'm not going to "present" anything to you, you can find it yourself.

i didn't say "google it fucktard", that's all you.
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Nofap/noporn is fucking stupid.

The majority of people here are not addicted to either. We're just lonely and bored and jerk off to pass the time. Some of you may have tried to stop but didn't, but obviously when you didn't. You have no motivation to stop. You're only trying to stop to see if you can. If you had real motivation to stop, such as you got a gf and want a healthy sex drive, you would be able to.

As long as you're not jerking off more than 9 times a week you're fine.
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>>26546778
The statement isn't purely what you said, but the general style people like you use

If you can't back up a statement, don't make it.
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>>26546848

now you're telling me what i should do? i don't remember asking for your explicit consent to share my thoughts.
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>>26546836
This.

I masturbate once every 1-2 days. Sometimes with porn, sometimes with my imagination. I don't go out of my way to do it nor am I thinking about it all the time.

I honestly find most porn disgusting because porn sites are filled with all the ACTUAL porn-addicted peoples fucked up fetishes.

I am just not capable of forming relationships with others, so it's been damn near impossible to find a GF to have sex with in real life. I've been socially weird my entire life, before video games, before porn, before the internet. Nothing "changed" me, it's just the way I am.

My life is too complicated to explain it on here, all I can say porn addiction is real, but your idea of porn addiction is probably not what you actually think it is. Porn addiction is like guys who jerk off 10 times a day, constantly looking at porn for hours on end everyday. Not just jerking off once a day for a few minutes.
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it's really fucking weird how men cannot differentiated jerking off from watching porn

do you never jerk off in the shower or something?
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lel@all these porn addicted denialists.
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deep down, you guys know i'm right. our youth was wasted jerking off to all the porn you could find, and playing video games instead of chasing after girls and making friends.
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>>26546680
>no proof
>nothing to back it up
>just believe his word
Neat champ you're full of shit and you know it kill yourself /thread 0/10 troll.
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>>26546861
Leave troll
>>>/b/
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>>26546982

keep denying it, i'll just keep being right. nobody is going to take away your precious porn. you are free to live as you please.
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>>26546972
Actually you're wrong

My youth was chasing girls and trying to make friends and failing over and over a million times until I just gave up and decided to play video games, porn came long-after.

You're probably underage, arent you? You probably grew up with fiber internet speeds. Literally kill yourself my man.
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>"he's saying things i don't like! he's a troll."

keep your precious porn, nobody is going to take it away from you lol.
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>>26547015

>i just gave up and decided to play video games and porn

doesn't this just prove my conjecture right? my whole premise is that before the internet, porn and online games wasn't something to fall back on as a substitute, but with the internet it came to be so.

that's how the robot generation was made, by substituting online video games and masturbation instead of a real life people enjoyed before the internet came along.
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a lot of young guys literally just checked out from young teen society to play video games and fap to porn.

and then years later here we are bitching on r9k about normies, chads, stacies and tumblredditors.

some of you just make troll threads to get your kicks, then beat it to porn to get yer ticks.

rinse repeat, there goes 10 years of your young life.
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>>26547007
>>no proof
>>nothing to back it up
>>just believe his word
>Still full of shit
Back up you're claim
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>>26547167
Meh it was a good life while it lasts.
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>>26547194

no go do your own homework.
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>>26547064
Fuck off normie get out and never come back
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>>26547207
Concession accepted.
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>>26547197

that's what i'm saying, guys like us traded our young adult lives for epic raids and loots, big bubble butt riders xxl, and mommies home cooked dinners for 10 years and here we are wondering why everything went so wrong?

kek.
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>>26547222

it was never offered.
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>>26547207
>>no proof
>>nothing to back it up
>>just believe his word
>Still full of shit
Back up the claim you're making or shut you're mouth faggot.
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>>26547259
You're presenting baseless assertions as facts. When asked for some shred of evidence, all you do is evade and try to play games with the burden of proof ("why don't you google it") like the slimey fuccboi you are.

Ipse facto, you've conceded because you have offered no defense.
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>>26547293

it was never a "battle" to begin with, you're just trying to pick one.

by the way, you've offered nothing to this thread except to beg for "evidance" and responding "lol because you can't you lose."

you're the anti-contributor.
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>>26547275

you can do whatever you want, you can go fap right now nobody will try to stop you. you have mistaken me for somebody who cares what you do with your free time.
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>tfw i fapped six times on valentine's day and have been really horny ever since
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>>26546387
I wish I could be one of those normal people so bad, which is why tried nofap/noporn so much.

However, deep down I know I never really stood a chance to fit in. So not looking at porn or masturbating just makes me angry, the way a normalfag would feel if he couldn't get sex. That's all. That anger doesn't get channeled into anything; I don't think it can be because there are no other outlets, so it just becomes self-destructive.
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yall can fap to porn all you want, just don't expect not to be weirdos to everybody else.

>"hurr i can't not fap i get too angry."
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>>26547332
I don't owe you shit.

Maybe, you shouldn't cry like a bitch when you post baseless conjecture, try to pass it as gospel truth, and whine when people call you on it.
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>>26547360
pretty much this.

originalcomment908889
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>>26547349
>>>no proof
>>>nothing to back it up
>>>just believe his word
>>Still full of shit
Back up you're claim now or go away
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>>26547385
If anything no-fap makes me more weird.

When Ive fapped im relaxed and calm and can someone function. When I haven't fapped, im very anxious and jittery and cant concentrate even if a 4/10 is in the room because i just wanna fuck them.
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>>26547386

well you're the one getting heated up over nothing here, you're personally offended that i said porn was the reason why male robots are a thing.
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>>26547419

i didn't know this was supposed to be a pity party for masturbation addicts.

>>26547425

cool man.
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>>26547442
>>>>no proof
>>>>nothing to back it up
>>>>just believe his word
>>>Still full of shit
Back up you're claim or go away and troll elsewhere
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>>26547463

i never said you had to believe me though, didn't i say that you are free to do as you please?
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to be honoest its our minds that really fucked us over, betas are damned to stay betas and its not our fault. chad could grow up piss poor and still be chad its all mental

>inb4 normalfags saying "NU UH! its all a choice MUH STRUGGLE i used to be like you you just need to man up!"
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lol @ these 2 autists going back and forth about proof, niggas acting like we in court n shieeet.
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>>26547489
>>>>>no proof
>>>>>nothing to back it up
>>>>>just believe his word
>>>>Still full of shit
Back up you're claim now or go here
>>>/b/
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>>26547508

right? they can ask their mommies to find proof for them.
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>>26546387
Im on day 13 of no fap.

Its kinda changing my life. Im finally starting to realize how shitty my life is and bought like 60 dollars in personal care products on amazon yesterday. I feel no fap has made me more depressed but it has erased the haze and im able to finally see i need to improve my life
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>>26547555
Your a faggot enjoy being fucked by a bear
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>>26546612
Because porn is easier than being rejected a trillion times until you finally get a 4-5/10 girl settle for you. Why waste time trying to get some washed up 30 y/o slut to wife and have kids with?
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im not doing some redditor/sjw/tumblrina's homework and finding proofs for them. they just expect free shit.
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>>26547581

i give attention for free.
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>>26547571
Didnt see how cancerous this thread was before i replied haha WHOOPS
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nobody actually cares if you're trying to troll us.
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>>26547587
Well then shut you're cunt mouth if you're not going to back up a claim you lost faggot haha.
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>>26547766

you just expect free work? this isn't reddit.
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>>26547799
You're making the claim i don't gotta do shit faggot.
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>>26547799
The burden of proof is, quite literally, on you. Put up or shut up.
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>>26547909

neither do i. this ain't reddit, nobody gives a shit about "muh evidence" because we're all anonymous.
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>>26547933

nope it's not. go find it yourself if you want it so badly.
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>>26547945
Still no proof? burden is on you
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>>26547966
Yea it is haha this nigga
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>>26547981

there is no burden on me. go do your own busy work, top lel.

or go to reddit and ask from help redditors
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>>26548000

but i don't care if you believe me or not.
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>>26548001
The burden of proof is on you mr claim
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>>26548021
Back up you're claim my normie friend.
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>>26548027

i could do all the research, i just don't wanna share it with you if i ever do.
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>>26548001
Alright then, you're trying pass off baseless assertions as truth, refusing to provide any shred of evidence.

So it's conjecture and you're full of shit.
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>>26548066
Back up you're claim now or shut it
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>>26548068

>"reee! why isn't this male falling for my tricks and doing my work for me?!"
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>>26548096
>"reee! faggot normie is here not backing up his bullshit!
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>>26546387
>You guys realize this is aimed at normal people right?
nigga, you think some normal fag is going to shell out money for a HQ porn subscription on multiple sites? you think a normie is going to buy a dragon dildo and onahole? You actually believe a normie is going to pay some cam whore money until he get his nut? Normies can't compete with us here. There are niggas on this site who could name porn stars, give you their bio, tell you her age, and post her baby pics just by looking at pictures of their assholes. you think some normie could compete with that? hell nah senpai.
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>>26548146

why don't you research this yourself? do your own legwork.
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i want you to do your own research because i believe in you.
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>>26548178
Why don't you back up you're claim is a better question
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>>26548178
Because I'm an idiot and don't have time to break in the middle of some discussion to perform the hours of research that you have to come to the conclusions about this topic.

So, present your reasoning and explain the evidence for me because I am a simpleton who can't do months of learning in the course of 30 minutes on google unlike you, Mr. Ubermensch.
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>>26548206
>>26548250

ok.

porn is addicting. before the internet, you could only get porn in the 21+ only section of video stores.

you couldn't get porn before the internet unless your dad had the spice channel.

internet comes along, all i gotta do is type some words on AskJeeves and search for "naked ass pussy hot babe" and suddenly my whole screen is filled with "naked ass pussy hot babe"

cool. i saw her coochie!

click click. click click.

wait where am i? hey this looks like a movie...

??????

i just feel like playing video games, i don't wanna go outside today.

im bored of video games, i wanna search for more "naked ass pussy hot babe" but tonight i'll search for "ass pussy naked hot girl."

click click.

???

10 years later here i am.

you may now stop pestering me for evidense.
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>>26548362
Not proof back it up anon
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>>26548397

excuse me? did you just tell me to "back it up?"

>>26548362

i really like this girl! i will be the nicest boy ever to her.

>"h-hey haha big pussy football naruto lol."

why are girls so mean? im a nice guy and nobody ever likes me. she ALWAYS picks those sporty, handsome guys gosh genetics just screwed me over big time.

maybe if i keep being nice to her she will come around.

AskJeeves "find me pussy football sex games"

????

LOL noob, learn to dps u scrub.

>"h-hey i missed you in class today.."
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>>26548462
yes back it up...the claim
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>>26548362
This is sound. I can buy the logical underpinning.

Where the factual basis that might make this valid? Because I'm already seeing holes

>only get porn in the 21+ section of video stores
What about sneaking it from a parent or older person who had porn? What are fake IDs? Etc

>internet comes along
Facilitating something that already existed, if you accept the premises of my counterexample

>first experience... 10 years later
Why must this pattern follow? Certainly there exist people who both watch porn and play video games that are otherwise "normies"

What facts do you have to put my immediate questions with both your logic and your portrayal of pre-internet porn to rest? Just asserting something is true does not make it so
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>>26548462
How come those sporty handsome guys also watch porn and play video games?

When attempting to survey about the effects of porn, researchers have had difficulty finding a control group amongst college age men, who theoretically run the gamut on the scale of robot to normie.

Anecdotally, I personally know handsome, sporty guys that also play video games and watch porn.
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>>26548479

no. you are asking me to do homework.

the short version is

masturbation to porn is addicting and is a cycle that feeds on itself. the internet made porn accessible since nobody knows that you're not 21, all you had to do was click "yes enter" and you had access to all the porns.

before the internet you could only get porn in adult sections, thereby preventing teens from masturbating themselves into a stupor day after day.

i'm sure you can find articles on how porn and masturbation to porn is addicting, that's really all you need.

the internet got big in the mid 90's with America Online. it existed before AOL, but with AOL it got super mainstream and pretty soon everyone was online with their computers.

AOL had to use dial up modems, where you had to connect a phone line from your computer to your phone jack in the house.

a 56k dial up modem would probably load the front page of 4chan in maybe 2-5 minutes.
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>>26548552
Not proof back up the claim or lose.
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It makes me more clear headed and focused on my hobbies especially music production. Helps me enjoy life a little bit more. It's all subjective experience. It's not going to entirely change your life, no.
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>>26548483

ya you could sneak it if you found your dad's stash of dirty mags or your friend did.

but a stash of dirty mags is nothing compared to internet accessible porn, especially video porn with sound.

sure you could sneak an adult video from somewhere and maybe get a chance to watch it in private, but that's nothing compared to having a computer and access to internet porn 24/7.

ya it facilitates something that existed in very controlled places. but now with the internet all the child had to do was click "yes i am 21 enter" and boom he was in the forbidden adult section of the video store times a million.

> Certainly there exist people who both watch porn and play video games that are otherwise "normies"

not concerned with that.
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>>26548552
>masturbation to porn is addicting and is a cycle that feeds on itself
Granted, considering some psychologists, though other dispute the notion.

>the internet made porn accessible
Address the counterexample

>before the internet...
Address the counterexample. This typically requires evidence, and the counterexample is pretty weak so you don't have a high bar to clear.

>stupor
Why does it necessarily follow? Is there such thing as moderate masturbation? It's certainly conceivable.

>articles
We're talking tertiary, biased sources that are not subject-matter experts at this point. What do psychologists have to say? Are there findings peer-reviewed (because that's the best you'll get in lieu of being a subject matter expert yourself)?
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>>26548573

>"gibs us the PROOFS, sssssmale."
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>>26548626
Why aren't you concerned with that?

You've been arguing this whole time as though addiction was universal and your tone makes it seem inevitable.

>ruined this generation
>why this generation of men are so lost
>it's because they are lost in porn

Do you no longer stand by this?
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why does this need so much "proof"? it's not hard to understand.

leave a male kid alone with internet and a computer, he will probably look at porn.

no internet, no porn. there is no way porn websites could keep the kids from browsing it since they can't verify someone's age unless they asked for a credit card to enter.
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>>26548648
>Still not backing up the claim
I win senpai
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>>26548648
Except you are actually making unsubstantiated claims. It's not fair to expect someone to do all the prepatory research that you did beforehand. There is a finite amount of time.

There is a reason why the onus is typically on the person making a claim to provide evidence for it
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>>26548691
I just entered this thread. But why do you care to debate if you're happy jacking off 5 times a day to porn?
Yes you're a fucking loser. However you might be a little less of one if you didn't
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>>26548670

I'm not concerned with that because i no longer masturbate to porn, or masturbate if you must know.

i stand by it. this generation of men are lost because they are too busy beating off to porn, eating, shitting, sleeping and playing online games like the original world of warcraft.

there are only so many hours in a day.
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>>26548685
>so much

It doesn't, but when all you have are shitty anecdotes and are evasive, it casts some doubt to say the least on your credibility.
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>>26548724
I still see no proof the tears are real
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>>26548713

but i didn't do any research. i just had an epiphany.
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>>26548724
Why doesn't everyone just abandon the thread whenever there's a troll like this? I mean seriously it's so fucking obvious he's either trolling or a retard. In either scenario no one is going to convince the other side of anything.
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>>26548740

but i already said that i didn't care if you believed me or not, many posts ago.

obviously you are wanting proof so you can present it somewhere else, like reddit.

i just had an epiphany and posted it here.
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>>26547581
>Because porn is easier than being rejected a trillion times until you finally get a 4-5/10 girl settle for you. Why waste time trying to get some washed up 30 y/o slut to wife and have kids with?

That's been true for anyone with or without porn.

This idea that only men have become useless failures and women haven't remotely changed or gotten worse is just more useless feminist drivel we've heard a billion times before. You don't need to be a bitter rowboat or to objectively look at girls today and realise these might not be poor victimised young maidens just desperate for suitors who won't stop fapping to tranny anal and man up already.

Maybe men aren't that interested in chasing girls because the girls themselves aren't worth it any more? Why would I put any effort into chasing a girl who gave herself away for nothing when she was 15? I've had girls viciously tell me to my face they don't want to be tied down by "relationships" (let alone marriage or children) and that they think romantic love is pathetic. Again, what is one supposed to do with that?
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>>26548790
>not backing up his claim
Normie bought the fuck out!
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>>26548734
Again, what evidence do you have that this afflicts "this generation"?

That's a lot of people to have such a specific lifestyle. The high water mark of WoW was approximately 12 million (Business Wire, 2010). There are significantly more people in "this generation" than 12 million.
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>>26548749
There's only a lack of proof because it's an extremely difficult thing to study
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>>26546387
>that reddi whip

ty anon i lost my shit
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>>26546387
Don't worry, you'll get over it.
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>>26548840
I went 10 inches deep in your mama brah
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>>26548790
So it's unsubstantiated assertions of personal conjecture

Ding-dong. The witch is dead.
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>>26548839

i said games like WoW. WoW wasn't the only mmo or the only online computer game.

>>26548823

this is the excuse men make to continue their porn masturbation behavior. they literally don't know what to do except complain, fap, and repeat.

like courtship is a lost art with this generation of men.

i guess what is so obvious to me isn't so obvious who is not of my gender and don't personally know what i am talking about.
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>>26548890

I don't watch porn, you thick mong. Did you even read a single part of my damn post?

>I've had girls viciously tell me to my face they don't want to be tied down by "relationships" (let alone marriage or children) and that they think romantic love is pathetic
>they don't want to be tied down by "relationships"
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>>26548890
Poof....or it's lies
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>>26548921

maybe they were just shit testing you and you failed, you thick mong.
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>>26548964
Na i don't think so
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>>26548890
We can go two ways on your claim.

1) MMOs have historically been a niche activity. How can something done by a small minority represent the older part of "this generation"

2) Games like LoL have massive subscriber bases. Surely, some of those people are not shut-in robots.
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i literally had to walk through mental hell to realize that she is just laughing at me the whole time and waiting for me to come to the realization she did.

it took a while. porn is bad, porn kills relationships.
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>>26548890
>like courtship is a lost art with this generation of men.

It's not the rest of our fault you spend your time chasing Chads with hundreds of options
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>>26548977

look i don't care m8. you either understand or you don't and need "proofs."
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>>26548988
>Letting a women win
kill yourself
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>>26549002

>falling for the Chad meme

to be fair it's a legit meme. it's your mirror.
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>>26549003
>makes a claim
>no proof
Yes you do senpai
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>>26549003
Sorry about your breakdown when confronted with people that don't immediately buy into unsubstantiated bullshit, faggot
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>>26549012

women is hearts.
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>>26549038
women are cunts brah
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>>26549027
not him but some things are abstract anon. But nofap isn't going to help you. you're too autistic.
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>>26549035

you're not "buying" anything, everything here is free but you are demanding more and more but you won't understand until you realize that the problem is yourself.
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>>26548964

You are such an annoying faggot. I'm not sure why you're replying to anyone in this thread since you're just holding a self-satisfied conversation with yourself.

I mentioned that girls aren't in and of themselves worth pursuing, and that gentle or courtship-like behaviour is more often than not completely wasted on them. You responded by whining about men and porn some more, then when pressed you resorted to saying men were failing "shit tests" (which just proves my point even though you're too thick to understand this).

If the real world is being out-competed by a shitty MMO then you should probably take a look at what's wrong with the environment before crying about a vidya gayme.

Fucking useless.
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>>26549050

nice meme sis
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>>26549069

you disgust me because i know you can do better but you willfully choose not to.
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>>26549069
>>26549116

you are exactly the guy i am talking about, when i say that courtship is a lost art in this generation among men.

because you drink deeply from the Chad meme aid, which is actually a mirror held up against you.
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>>26549076
Not at all senpai try harder
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>>26549147

i do but i am going to bed.
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you can make all the excuses you want about how women aren't worth pursuing, but you're the shallow person and not women.

maybe because you spend the last 10 years beating it to hardcore porn and playing video games, where do you get to judge anybody for being "shallow"? you haven't even lived a life, you've only existed in a half-life of fast food, video games and porn and you are angry and trying to blame someone else for the way you are.
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>>26549156
Good night anon enjoy your sleep
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>>26549135

I have absolutely no clue what you're trying to say. I'm "Chad"? How about you go try being kind, constrained, mannered and sweet and emotionally vulnerable with a girl and see how it works out for you?
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>>26549206
Proof? i have yet to see that...
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>>26549234

thanks good night. blo
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>>26549206

I've never said women are "shallow", dumbass.

Jesus Christ help me. I feel like beating my head against a wall.
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>>26549246

Try? you don't "try" you do or don't, there is no in-between.

>>26549259

proof? proof? proof?
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>>26546484
I think you might be right because before I started fapping I could easily remember people faces and stuff like that and about year later of fapping I have noticed that I have a problem remembering people faces even thought I was pretty good at this before. I mean I have met or seen some of the people more than 3 times and still somehow it was hard to remember their faces. This fapping and porn is really fucking up my mind, but it is really hard to stop it. The longest I got with no fap was 21 days.
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>>26546387
> Implying
No, it's all about being pure and stopping being a degenerate. Sexual pleasure isn't all there is to life.
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>>26549206
i dont call anyone shallow but

>you haven't even lived a life, you've only existed in a half-life of fast food, video games and porn and you are angry and trying to blame someone else for the way you are.

pretty good tbqhwu you got me there cant deny that
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>>26548165
>topkek
This guy gets it. I'm fairly normie and I would never post for porn, or even download it for that matter. I'll occasionally fap to porn but it doesn't consume my life. If all the porn in the world disappeared, I'd give zero fucks.
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>>26551307
indeed. NoFap is not for people who don't jerk off for 10+ hours without any breaks and search for the perfect camwhore videos.
That being said, I could never manage to do no fap for longer than a week and no porn for longer than a day.
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