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Improving your body is more within reach than you know. It's a great first step in taking control of your life. I will help you with this project.
Ask anything.
There are a few things everyone needs to do:
- weigh yourself every morning, after having emptied yourself and before having eaten anything
- count your calories, to know how much/little you're actually eating, to know if you can eat more or not, etc
- calculate your basal rate and check if it's accurate; you can use the following website to do so:
http://www.calculator.net/calorie-calculator.html
Calories are a unit that measures energy, to be simple. Food is fuel for your body; when you ingest more than you need, your body stores the excess. That storage is the fat on your body.
This is the guide. If you don't read it now, save it for later. It will answer most of your questions.
Calories and how they work.
Learn to read food labels.
>>29827422
It looks like you mean to post Harsh's guide. I think your computer has a virus
http://4chanfit.wikia.com/wiki/Harsh%27s_Worksheet_(WIP)
Don't worry I got you famalam
SS is the most popular program if you want to start strength/mass. It's popular because it gives results. As long as you use the same principles and similar exercises, however, you will get the same results.
The guide provides ideas on what to do if you have or don't have money to get equipment.
>>29827499
First time seeing this one, it looks pretty good. Thanks.
Why is the fat ive been slowly putting on going straight to my ass?
Im serious no memes
>>29827563
100% genetecis
>>29827563
Many of us have favoured spots for fat. Most men get it in their bellies, it varies.
Seems like your ass is the favoured spot. You just need to lose fat in general and the ass will go down too.
Heading off to bed but I wanna say thanks for making these threads Nick, it's always nice to see you trying to help robots. Take it easy, man.
>>29827613
Very welcome, and good night!
Fat doesnt weigh that much does it? Because im clearly getting fatter but ive hardly put on weight
>>29827621
It weighs less than muscle, yes.
If i eat a lot of super low calorie food through the day will i still starve?
Example just broccoli for 3 meals a day. Like 100 calories in total. Will my body go into starvation mode?
so does sugar and fat come in to play in terms of diet? or is calorie tracking more important
no bully pls
>>29827779
>If i eat a lot of super low calorie food through the day will i still starve?
Depends what "a lot" means. If you eat too much low calorie food, you'll get fatter.
>xample just broccoli for 3 meals a day.
I don't advise that, no reason to eat in a boring way, it'll only make it harder for you, for no benefits.
>Like 100 calories in total.
That's not enough. You should aim for around 400 less than your daily requirement.
>Will my body go into starvation mode?
There is no such thing.
http://www.aworkoutroutine.com/starvation-mode/
Nick I need a picture of you to see if I should taje you seriously.
And were you ever fat?
>>29827791
>so does sugar and fat come in to play in terms of diet? or is calorie tracking more important
Yes, but insofar as they contain calories. Understand that a calorie is like a meter, it measures something, it isn't a thing itself. Sugar has calories, so does fat. Everything you eat comes into play for a diet.
But the way you do this is you count the calories you eat. If you eat more than your body needs, your body stores the excess as fat. It's an energy reserve. If you eat less calories than needed, your body taps into your fat.
>>29827422
Actually the more realistic way to do it is this:
New daily cap = (BMR * 1.2) (if sedentary, deskjob, little exercise) - 500 (feel free to try up to 700 but beyond that it is unlikely you'll tolerate it well on a physical level)
Recalculate your BMR and daily cap every week or so.
Adjust the 1.2 to say 1.3 if you do some light exercise regularly etc...
>>29827833
>Nick I need a picture of you to see if I should taje you seriously.
The information I give is backed medically. Suggesting that I must absolutely look like Apollo to deliver credible info is like saying a fat doctor doesn't know how the body works.
All I'm trying to do is to save you the time I have wasted by doing the wrong things with the wrong info. I've lost over a year of efforts doing useless nonsense, I want to spare you that.
I have never been really fat, but I have been nearly overweight. I'm still skinnyfat but I put on a lot of muscles since I began. It's nothing impressive compared to others (the thing you shouldn't do because it's pointless), but I am seeing serious progress both in visible muscle mass and in actual strength, so I know what I do works.
Pic related: keep in mind I had zero muscles in the beginning.
>>29827862
Oh forgot to add:
If you suffer from any chronic metabolic issue, or a long term illness (especially the ones likely to affect muscles, including the heart) or a digestive tract illness it would be wise to account for that and ideally ask your doctor or nutritionist about it.
>>29827960
Also forget the "remove 1000 cals from you BMR" diet...
There have been medical studies that prove this is way too drastic and impacts physical and mental health in some cases to the point of reversible organ dysfunction and suicide.
>>29827960
What I do, simply, or did, was to write down the calories on a daily basis and weigh myself daily too.
From that, you can just see what your real ceiling is and how it changes.
>>29827984
The only case where this is OK is for extremely obese people who need 7000kcal a day. If you're normal, 1000 is too much, indeed. A normal person needs around 2000 a day.
>>29827528
>>29827528
Are you for serious that's the sticky from fit it's been around for years
>i thought it was a meme
>turns out no one really reads it ever
>>29828003
>Are you for serious that's the sticky from fit it's been around for years
It's not. You've just proved your own point: you've never read the sticky on fit. I've read it several times.
http://liamrosen.com/fitness.html
The one you posted is new, and it's listed as "supplementary reading". Can you fucking read?
>>29827414
I'm a 5'7" manlet and I only weigh 50kg. My 12 year old sister can lift me up. I don't really care about strength or health, I just want a naisu body. Realistically, how long, will it take for me to get a six pack doing 20-30 sit ups and push ups every morning? A year? Is it even possible?
>>29827528
>>29828003
I'm just going to assume you haven't read this either. Trying to help your thread bro godspeed
http://liamrosen.com/fitness.html
>>29828003
Original cunt.rgiuwegfuiefuwiogw
>>29828030
This is the sticky, which I posted before you:
>>29828022
>>29828022
>been around for years
That was the original sticky, then all the streching and other stuff was added years later. Yes I know exactly what I said and here is my additional post
>>29828030
>>29827987
I just did the BMR method... can't bothered. but true, ideally testing the true ceiling is better.
>>29828053
Calculating your BMR is only to get a clue. Mine was way off. I was told I could eat 2300kcal because of the maths, but reality is at 1500, and that's a huge difference. If I eat more than 1500, I gain weight. So use with caution and trust your testing more than anything else.
fuck off chad
let me wallow in self-pity
>>29828088
I've learned my lesson, Kevin. I will not stand in your way, I will even buy you a bullet.
But let's be clear: you come to me to tell me to fuck off. Do you see the conflict?
Please take a bullet if you're not going to give life a try.
Nick you think you can help me out? I've always been a big guy and have slowly started to lose weight buy simply cutting out fast food but I know thats not enough. I was wondering if you could help me put together some type of schedule that I could follow. If I have a set of instructions in front of me I can easily follow that. Something like a meal plan or exercise plan. Also I have a question about supplements: Are they worth it or just a meme? A friend of mine keeps telling me to buy fish oil and something called ripped fuel.
>>29828124
>Nick you think you can help me out? I've always been a big guy and have slowly started to lose weight buy simply cutting out fast food but I know thats not enough. I was wondering if you could help me put together some type of schedule that I could follow. If I have a set of instructions in front of me I can easily follow that. Something like a meal plan or exercise plan.
Unsurprisingly, the simplest plan is the most efficient, so listen up: calories. All you really need to do is count your calories, estimate your ceiling, and eat less than that.
Concretely, that means you have to check the calories on the items you eat. Read the labels, learn to calculate per 100 g and such. It will give you an idea of how many calories are in what food, which will help a lot already.
You will find out that chocolate and nuts are insane in calories. Knowing this, you will naturally become more reluctant of eating them, because you will know what you're allowed in a day, and you'll know how much space those items will take.
Let's imagine you need 2500kcal a day. Then only eat 2000, that's your limit. Every time you eat anything, add the cals up. When you reach 1600, for example, you know you can only eat 400 calories, and nothing more.
That way, you can eat anything you want without guilt because you'll be in control.
State your age, height, and weight, I'll tell you your ceiling.
>Also I have a question about supplements: Are they worth it or just a meme? A friend of mine keeps telling me to buy fish oil and something called ripped fuel.
Supplements can be great, full of vitamins and such, yes. But be careful. Protein shakes are fine and vitamins supplements too, but anything slightly weird, I'd not take.
>>29828023
your 12 year old sister can lift 50kg/110 pounds? that's pretty impressive
>>29828023
Situps won't give you great abs, no. Don't focus on one single body part.
To get a nice body, you'll need to gain actual strength.
Within a year, you can look significantly nicer if you're just skinny now. That's possible, but you must go for the whole thing, not just abs or biceps. Read the guide, it mentions this too.
http://pastebin.com/zrpicavw
(Sorry that I missed your post before.)
>>29828167
I'm 21, 6' 1", and 225lbs. Are there any good apps to keep track of calories or should I just whip out the pen and paper?
>>29828266
>I'm 21, 6' 1", and 225lbs. Are there any good apps to keep track of calories or should I just whip out the pen and paper?
There are apps, yes, ranging from serious to cute bunnies telling you how you're doing. I use a pen and paper, but whatever works for you is the best. It's really simple, so the form of it doesn't matter here.
I put mine on the fridge. Unless you have your phone on you all the time, you may prefer having something where the food is.
>>29828311
Alright cool. I'll start my counting calorie journey today. I'll probably start walking around outside too just to get some exercise in. Hardest thing is gonna be trying to stick to it but I really think I can do this.
>>29828382
To be fair, walking is cool, but don't expect it to burn much. Better than nothing, definitely, but don't expect much from it in terms of calories.
Counting calories is easy and it will make your mind think differently about what you eat.
Try avoiding processed food and stuff that's wrapped up. Read the guide for more advice.
What's the point of getting /fit/. If tall and attractive Chad puts the same amount of effort into lifting, he is going to have better results.
>>29827414
Is there any reason I'm getting with 0 exercise and gym? 181cm and 135lbs, but I'm even bigger than most of my friends that frequent the gym with actual biceps and wide shoulders and chest
>>29828432
BMR based guy from above.
I tend to prefer swimming (ideally in somewhat cold water) as a good whole body exercise.
>>29828434
>If tall and attractive Chad puts the same amount of effort into lifting, he is going to have better results.
No reason he would. You'll never know if he puts more or less efforts than you. In fact, since you do nothing, he puts more efforts by default and thus deserves more results.
Nobody forces you to make an effort, but don't come whining about having no results.
>>29828486
You're probably just fat all around.
What's your physical activity in general?
>>29828517
>No reason he would.
Bullshit. He is starting at better position. So if he advances himself through lifting, he is going to be further than someone who started at shitty position. It's that simple.
>>29828382
As Nick said, walking is alright, but there are two problems I've encountered with it:
To get anything out of it you need to walk for at least 30mn. (at a fairly constant brisk pace)
If you go above 1hr (at a fairly constant brisk pace) and are not used to it you might have trouble sleeping etc...
Also, unless you in an interesting location, it can get very boring.
If terrain allows, try to walk barefoot, I find it is better for your posture.
Can you gain muscle without going to the gym or buying equipment? I'm poor and anti social
>>29828536
>Bullshit. He is starting at better position.
Nobody starts "at" a better position. You start at the beginning, just like everyone else.
>>29828562
Skipping ropes is a better stamina exercise and burns more calories and you can do it wherever you want.
>>29827414
I'm 171cm 56kg, I feel like my weight is fine but I have shit proportions (arms too thin, small shoulders) how do I help this? Also I'm sedentary and I eat like once a day because I always wake up at 17:00. Is there any way you can think of to change this? will power is not enough for me
>>29828564
You can to some degree. Read guide.
>>29828569
So imagine two guys. One is rich, tall, great looking, huge dick. The other is poor, short, ugly and micropenised.
Now tell me that they have the same starting position in life. Obviously not. The first guy has a massive headstart.
>>29828585
You need to consume more calories. Eat more, eat more caloric food. Eat seeds, pistachios, nuts, etc. Whole milk.
>>29828564
push-ups, lifting whatever is heavy around you etc...
you could even get incidentally ripped just by doing whatever your normal activities are, if you work some physical job.
hell I knew a camera assistant (on film sets) that was reasonably ripped and it was all he did really; I call it "functional muscle" as where I consider gym muscle more like "show-off muscle", no disrespect.
>>29828596
None of these things will accelerate muscle growth. So no, your argument fails.
Such a man would still start at the beginning.
What's your goal, my pussy, what do you want for yourself? Answer that question without dreaming about Chad's big fucking cock or I'll assume you aren't just a fag but a literal homosexual.
>>29828577
I have cardiovascular/oxygen constrains to account for desu; so meh...
>>29828614
>; I call it "functional muscle" as where I consider gym muscle more like "show-off muscle", no disrespect.
If you do compounds movements, you'll get "functional strength", which also happens to be the most esthetic muscles you can develop.
Don't confuse bodybuilders with others. Freeweights are the best no matter what, for every goal.
>>29827414
you are a send from god Nick, post a pic of your body with a timestamp so I know you are not full of shit
>>29828647
I've already posted it. I am not full of shit, but I am not at the end of my journey either.
>>29827876
>>29828620
>None of these things will accelerate muscle growth. So no, your argument fails.
Ok so how about testosterone, frame and genetic predispositions.
>What's your goal, my pussy, what do you want for yourself? Answer that question without dreaming about Chad's big fucking cock or I'll assume you aren't just a fag but a literal homosexual.
My goal is to create a world where people aren't treated unfairly for things out of their control. A world without retards like you who try to pretend like most things can be changed even though the most important things can not.
Also typical normie trying to insult and shame people without responding to their points.
Okay, a little more specific question:
I suffer from disability, but I got Lucky because it doesn't get worse (doctors don't know why they say it should).
I found out that I can Develope muscles (which I was not sure about so far).
I started running and managed after a lot of time to pass the 10 km/h Mark on my 4 K run. My goal is to run 5k with 12.5 km/h which I should be able to do provided I keep Training.
Where can I find Resources for "easy" Trainings? Many Trainings like squats I can't do. I get closer to doing them but there is no resource for me or people like me so I have no idea how to start. Also: baodyweight or weights?
Thanks.
>>29828659
>Ok so how about testosterone, frame and genetic predispositions.
Nobody here suggests you should take test. It's ill-advised, unhealthy, and you won't look good. So that's that.
Genetic predispositions: no reason to assume you won't grow muscle more easily than Chad. You will never actually know which way the wind blows here because you'll never be intimate enough with Chad to know how hard he trains. So you can drop that topic too.
>My goal is to create a world where people aren't treated unfairly for things out of their control.
How will you change the world if you can't even change your own body, and not even your mindset?
> A world without retards like you who try to pretend like most things can be changed even though the most important things can not.
I claim that you can change your body, because you can, because no doctor anywhere would say you cannot. You are just a pussy bitch.
>Also typical normie trying to insult and shame people without responding to their points.
I've responded to everyone of your points, but I've also stated that you are a piece of shit, because you are, no offense.
>>29828686
>I found out that I can Develope muscles (which I was not sure about so far).
You have terrible doctors. If muscles can exist, they can grow. Repair, maintenance, and growth, are basically the same process used differently.
>Where can I find Resources for "easy" Trainings? Many Trainings like squats I can't do. I get closer to doing them but there is no resource for me or people like me so I have no idea how to start. Also: baodyweight or weights?
Do everything gradually. Can you squat with nothing but your bodyweight? If not, choose another leg exercise, something easier, and work on that.
Bodyweight or weights, anything that you can actually do well will be fine for now. Can you do pushups?
I'll give you a list of bodyweight you can try.
>>29828688
>Nobody here suggests you should take test. It's ill-advised, unhealthy, and you won't look good. So that's that.
Men who have more testosterone grow muscle more. That's that.
>no reason to assume you won't grow muscle more easily than Chad
Other than what I said above.
>How will you change the world if you can't even change your own body, and not even your mindset?
I won't change the world. I can't. That's the point.
>I claim that you can change your body, because you can, because no doctor anywhere would say you cannot. You are just a pussy bitch.
And I claim that any positive results from changing my body would be amplified if I was a Chad.
>I've responded to everyone of your points, but I've also stated that you are a piece of shit, because you are, no offense.
Insulting someone and then saying "no offense" is retarded, Nick.
Oh people, also do not forget that at some point your metabolism will adapt, as long as you take it slow enough for it to do so without crashing.
It is pretty much the same idea as withdrawing from drugs; do it too slow and you won't get the results you want and get discouraged... do it too fast and you risk relapsing.
>>29828740
>Men who have more testosterone grow muscle more. That's that.
This could be you. You have no reason to assume you can't be the privileged one here, but you don't care, because all you want are excuses to justify being the little bitch that you are.
>I won't change the world. I can't. That's the point.
Then stop claiming shit. Just take a bullet already.
>And I claim that any positive results from changing my body would be amplified if I was a Chad.
You think like an idiot. You're obsessed with an idea and you won't let go. In 2 years, I'll be just like a Chad to you, if I am not already, and you'll believe it was all luck, dismissing years of work on my part. Chad is to you what the patriarchy is to feminists. Take a fucking bullet.
>Insulting someone and then saying "no offense" is retarded, Nick.
That's thje joke, you autistic piece of shit. Be offended, that's what I want. Be offended, fuck right off, and shoot yourself in the head. I've wasted enough energy and time on you. Now fuck off and die.
>>29828721
Thanks for the answer. No pushups are not (yet) archievable.
Also regarding the doctors: my disability has never before been seen this way. The similar one would result in death by the age of 14-16 because the lungs would get too weak.
The question for the doctors was not can I develop muscles but can I develop strength. About half of my actual muscle has the nucleus of the cell missplaced and therefore does not function.
Thankfully internal Organs seem uneffected.
>>29828740
Dude stop arguing with someone who legitimately wants to help others feel better about themselves. This guy wants to inspire people to be healthier and you're trying to tear him down because you're too lazy to get off your ass and exercise because "oh this guy has more testosterone than me this is unfair!" It doesn't matter if they have it easier, what matters is that you can do it yourself, so that you can become a Chad yourself
>>29828778
>This could be you. You have no reason to assume you can't be the privileged one here, but you don't care, because all you want are excuses to justify being the little bitch that you are.
You're a fucking retard. This can't be me. Some men get born with naturally high levels of testosterone. It's a very simple fact.
>Then stop claiming shit. Just take a bullet already.
Maybe I will.
>You think like an idiot. You're obsessed with an idea and you won't let go. In 2 years, I'll be just like a Chad to you, if I am not already, and you'll believe it was all luck, dismissing years of work on my part. Chad is to you what the patriarchy is to feminists. Take a fucking bullet.
You will never be a Chad. How old are you? Over 25 I bet. You've missed the train. Actually you've missed the train when being born. Just like many people here. You will spend so much time working hard and I the results will be shit compared to what Chad was experiencing in high school.
>Be offended, fuck right off, and shoot yourself in the head. I've wasted enough energy and time on you. Now fuck off and die.
You seem mad that not everyone is agreeing with you. You've gotten more agressive since the last few months. You probably think you're hot shit now. Oh well, I will not be the one to knock you on your ass. Everyone else will do it. Obviously you will ignore this to keep living in your comfortable delusion.
>>29828814
>>29828721
Also Thanks for the picture. That is essentially what I have been looking for. For some Trainings these things seem obvious but for some not. Thanks a lot, I'll keep on trying to overcome this disability.
>>29828814
>The question for the doctors was not can I develop muscles but can I develop strength.
Strength comes from muscles. They're essentially the same thing.
I had a friend with a similar condition. She was also supposed to die early, but she's alive now and past 35. She can't grow muscles much either.
Doctors tend to favour pessimistic diagnosis because it's better that reality turns out more more positive after bad news than the opposite.
>>29828831
>Dude stop arguing with someone who legitimately wants to help others feel better about themselves.
What he is saying is bullshit though. That's what I'm calling him out on.
> It doesn't matter if they have it easier, what matters is that you can do it yourself
Oh it matters. Well it matters to everyone who isn't a fucking cuck. Imagine you're doing something, you spend time getting better and then someone comes and is better than you even though it's his first time. This is unfairness and it fucking matters.
>>29828831
Don't worry, this guy is not unknown to me, and he knows it too. He argues the same exact way every time and can't let go. He wants to justify his ways to me to convince himself, but I've stopped making an effort.
I just take the bumps and respond to him while waiting for more serious posts.
>>29827414
Nick, every time I try to eat right, and follow a good exercise regime, I usually stick to it for around a week or so, and then I just fall back into old habits and start eating badly again.
I have very poor self-discipline, is there any tricks you know to improve my discipline?
It's really holding me back, I feel as though I have no motivation to stick to it because I have nothing in my life at the moment to do it for.
The last time I got fit I did it for a girl, but now I have nothing concrete to do it for
>>29828859
seconding this, discipline is a major issue for me too. It feels like a real catch 22 type situation. It's just so hard to motivate yourself to improve when you feel like you have nothing to live for.
>>29828840
>I had a friend with a similar condition. She was also supposed to die early, but she's alive now and past 35. She can't grow muscles much either.
>Doctors tend to favour pessimistic diagnosis because it's better that reality turns out more more positive after bad news than the opposite.
Probably you are right...
I sometimes Fall into a little pesimistic view because all people I knew who had the similar condition are (obvioulsy) dead by now. Thanks for your help so far, I'll keep training. Also Props to your friend, the psychological barrier is almost harder than the physical.
>>29828859
not Nick (obviously); but I'd go for it more gradually if you keep relapsing.
I agree it is hard to find motivation when lonely robot though... actually your initial motivation (a girl) was wrong to begin with; your main motivation should be to be happy with yourself for your own sake.
>>29828895
I have a cardiovascular defect I was born with...
My baseline life expectancy was a couple months, then doctors reevaluated it to 20 years... I am now 36
>>29828834
>You're a fucking retard. This can't be me. Some men get born with naturally high levels of testosterone. It's a very simple fact.
Unless you've had that tested, you don't know how much testosterone you have.
But even if you had little. Then what? I have a friend who has a testo problem. Guess what: he gets a fucking treatment and gets his testosterone adjusted with injections and whatnot. What makes you think problems cannot be solved or helped? You're absymal.
>Maybe I will.
Please do, you piece of shit.
>You will never be a Chad.
You've called me a Chad a dozen of times already, I wonder what changed your mind. Am I a normie, a Chad, make up your mind.
>How old are you? Over 25 I bet. You've missed the train. Actually you've missed the train when being born. Just like many people here. You will spend so much time working hard and I the results will be shit compared to what Chad was experiencing in high school.
I've posted a picture of my back and arms. Check it out for yourself and imagine what the ladies think about it.
I'm very happy with my results considering how little I have been training seriously. Very positive for the future. Since you can't help coming to my threads, you will see the progress too. When I finally make it out of dyel-land, I sure hope you won't then suddenly consider me a lucky Chad who got good cards and nothing else.
>You seem mad that not everyone is agreeing with you.
You're wrong, we both agree that you should take a bullet and we both agree that you're too much of a pussy to do it.
>You've gotten more agressive since the last few months.
Yes, I've decided that being nice to you accomplished nothing, and that nothing else could accomplish anything either. I've given up on you, but I'll still respond to you.
Nick, are you from the UK? If so, do you know how I can trick the doctors into giving me testosterone
>>29828834
> You probably think you're hot shit now.
That's insane. Why would I be hot shit now? I haven't posted a thread in months and whenever I post my current body pic, I get roasted for it, pay attention. I don't think I'm hot shit, but I do think you're a waste of time, so I treat you accordingly. Stay mad.
>Oh well, I will not be the one to knock you on your ass.
Indeed, that would require more strength than you have.
> Everyone else will do it.
I don't even know what you're trying to insinuate. I'm doing great and nobody is trying to bring me down, either. Worry about yourself, mate, you need it.
>>29828837
Good luck! With some adapations, you can even do SS; some old lady, over 90, does it. She only has mild adaptations in her program.
I think you should see a specialist and see what they advise, but on the whole, it shouldn't be very different from what anyone else does, just lower in intensity. Read the guide and adapt accordingly.
>>29828918
>Unless you've had that tested, you don't know how much testosterone you have.
That doesn't matter. I'm talking in general.
>But even if you had little. Then what? I have a friend who has a testo problem. Guess what: he gets a fucking treatment and gets his testosterone adjusted with injections and whatnot. What makes you think problems cannot be solved or helped? You're absymal.
So he has to do something that Chads don't have to? And the moment he stops taking it, he's fucked. So once again, unfair starting position.
>I've posted a picture of my back and arms. Check it out for yourself and imagine what the ladies think about it.
What does that matter?
>When I finally make it out of dyel-land, I sure hope you won't then suddenly consider me a lucky Chad who got good cards and nothing else.
I will consider you exactly that. If you weren't a Chad, you wouldn't improve. True robots, true inferior men can work as hard as they can and still fail. If you succeed you're a crypto-Chad.
>I've given up on you, but I'll still respond to you.
Kek at you.
>>29828914
That's interesting and nice to hear (that you made it not that you have the defect)
For me it was supposed to be a week max (a machine had to make me breathe), then 6 years, then 14, now they have long given up on saying anything.
Actually I made a point out of proving that I could do all the things they said I was incapable of (riding a bike etc).
I hope things are going well for you. I'll have a long way to go until I reach where you are but I'll try
>>29828850
>What he is saying is bullshit though.
Name a few things that I am saying which you think are bullshit. And don't doge that one.
>>29828850
>Oh it matters. Well it matters to everyone who isn't a fucking cuck.
You're a cuck because you spend more time thinking about Chad having it better than you do trying to change things. You cucked yourself. Who the fuck thinks, "Hey, he's got it easier, therefore I will not even try!" and thinks others are the cuck and not himself? Are you absolutely fucking retarded?
Do you think people who don't have legs think about you, you piece of shit, and decide to give up on everything simply because some asshole like yourself can't even appreciate his own legs? No, of course not, nobody thinks this way.
The only reason you do is because you need an excuse. You can't accept that you're behaving like a fucking baby and aren't willing to make a damn effort.
Trust me, it isn't injustice you're mad about, it's being a fucking cuck.
>>29828850
>Imagine you're doing something, you spend time getting better and then someone comes and is better than you even though it's his first time.
And? If you're not a cuck, you are happy for that person and move the fuck on. I taught chess to a close friend of mine; I've played for decades, and this person has a learning curve that's amazing, and even beat me. My reaction: very happy for that person, encouraged him to play more, maybe even train for competition. Your reaction: getting butthurt as fuck because boohoo you're a fucking baby.
Seriously, you're scum. You can't handle life, you can't be happy for other people, you can't make a fucking effort for yourself.
Life isn't built on "fair", it's built on "do". You're a fucking SJW piece of shit who expects everything to adapt to him. You're basically a millennial.
>>29828946
When you say ss you mean bodyweight right? I'm from Germany so the Google Search yields ... different results.
>>29828972
>Name a few things that I am saying which you think are bullshit. And don't doge that one.
Mostly saying how it doesn't matter where you are starting when it clearly does. You get born tall and good looking, let's say your starting position is 30. If you lift and get a good body, your value raises by 10.
Now imagine you get born short and ugly. So your starting position is let's say 15. If you lift and get a good body, your value raises less and in the end it's still worse. And you say that it doesn't matter.
>Hey, he's got it easier, therefore I will not even try!
I do. Why get humiliated? Letting yourself be humiliated is cucked.
>No, of course not, nobody thinks this way.
So? It doesn't matter how many people think this way. It matters if it's the truth or not.
>You can't accept that you're behaving like a fucking baby and aren't willing to make a damn effort.
Why should I make effort for unfair worse results? Why should I accept this injustice like a cuck?
>>29828859
>I have very poor self-discipline, is there any tricks you know to improve my discipline?
Organise. Have a program. Use discipline when necessary, not all the time. Use discipline when you're buying food, not when you open the fridge. If you demand discipline of yourself all the time, you're more likely to slip and fail.
Don't buy burgers and then try not to eat them: just don't buy them at the store.
>The last time I got fit I did it for a girl, but now I have nothing concrete to do it for
Do it for yourself. Nothing but benefits. Do it as a gift to yourself, because you're worth it. Consider it as you taking care of yourself, which it is, in many ways. Health, looks, happiness, strength, confidence, you have all this to gain. Be worthy of yourself.
>>29829004
>And? If you're not a cuck, you are happy for that person and move the fuck on.
You're happy that someone is better? You do know that life is competition, right?
>I taught chess to a close friend of mine; I've played for decades, and this person has a learning curve that's amazing, and even beat me. My reaction: very happy for that person, encouraged him to play more, maybe even train for competition. Your reaction: getting butthurt as fuck because boohoo you're a fucking baby.
Why should anyone react the way you did? It makes no sense.
>Seriously, you're scum. You can't handle life, you can't be happy for other people, you can't make a fucking effort for yourself.
I'm scum for not wanting to be treated worse and having to work harder for things out of my control?
>Life isn't built on "fair"
Exactly. Why not? Why should it not be? Why should I have a harder time because of something I couldn't change? Give me one good reason beyond "hurr that's how it is".
>>29828930
I'm not, but I know people who are. If you're not willing to do it the healthy way, you can always get steroids. Which I do not advise.
>Tfw I lost 30 lbs 6 months ago, got stuck and discouraged, but recently started working out and down another 10 lbs.
>lost 40 lbs (260, 6'1)
>still have awful man tits
>figure I need to lose another 40 to be not a complete lardfag
>>29829055
>cuck:
This man was born with a bigger dick so I will let him fuck my wife and not even try to object. It's the natural truth right!!!
>not-cuck:
I will achieve whatever I can no matter the humiliation and defeats I experience along the way.
You are a C U C K
>>29829055
Not op but if you think you have to train for a percieved value you are doing it wrong. Take a look at my messages (about disability) I guarantee you are better off than me and you can archive more than me in less time. That won't stop me from Training though.
What do I care at what value people see me?
I have friends that I would do anything for (almost) and that would do the same for me, so what do I care what Person xy thinks about me?
I do Training for strength. Also it is an activity that feels rewarding in itself.
Try it.
>>29829084
>I'm scum for not wanting to be treated worse and having to work harder for things out of my control
If you accept your place in life according to your ego then you are scum, yes.
>>29829103
>This man was born with a bigger dick so I will let him fuck my wife and not even try to object. It's the natural truth right!!!
Point is due to my natural inferiority, I will not even have a wife. And if I work hard to get a wife, she will still leave me for someone who is naturally gifted. If I worked hard I would be accepting this injustice. Acknowledging it.
>I will achieve whatever I can no matter the humiliation and defeats I experience along the way.
Playing a rigged game doesn't make you brave or smart. It makes you a retard.
>>29829101
You're gonna have to get below 200 to lose those man boobs bro
I've been doing steady cardio 4/ week for almost 9 months now. My diet is slowly improving and I've lost some decent weight. I'm definitely healthier. I can't seem to get into lifting though. I've been doing squats, situps and pushups for the last 2 weeks however. Am I wasting my time on those?
>>29829109
>What do I care at what value people see me?
Because this determines what you get in life. When you work hard and get less than a Chad, you're a retard.
>I have friends that I would do anything for (almost) and that would do the same for me, so what do I care what Person xy thinks about me?
Just believe it if you want. But truth is if some non-crippled guy (or whatever is actually wrong with you) came along, that would game over for you.
>>29829124
I don't get that.
>>29828956
>That doesn't matter. I'm talking in general.
You weren't, you were talking about test level very specifically.
>So he has to do something that Chads don't have to?
Yes, just like Chads don't have to talk to your fucking ass like I do. What the fuck, just fucking do it. Chad DOESN'T REAL, you moron. You don't know Chad, you don't know his life or his struggle, and you don't care. How hard is it to believe that Chad may have had to struggle with things you can't even imagine? Holy shit, man, get a fucking grip.
If I remember correctly, you're short. My test friend is very tall. It's not all black and white, everyone has pros and cons. If you suddenly became a Chad, life wouldn't become magnificent all of a sudden, especially with your state of mind.
You can't take responsibility for anything, that's your problem. Play the cards you were dealth, stop whining that they're not good cards, for Christ's sake.
What's next, whining about how you're mortal and how we don't know if there's anything after death? What are you gonna do about it? Cry? Insult God? Come the fuck on, man. Whining about things doesn't change them. Learn this fast.
>What does that matter?
It matters if you intend to find a wife eventually. A woman has no reason to go for a sucker with shit attitude and shit body when she can go for someone who has a positive attitude and a nice body. Wake up. You wouldn't go for a fat cunt who has a shit attitude either, so don't do double standards.
>I will consider you exactly that. If you weren't a Chad, you wouldn't improve.
Circular logic: if you can become a Chad, you always were a Chad.
>>29828956
>crypto-Chad
I legit laughed at this. You're something, bro, you really are something.
Pro-tip: you can improve too. Muscles grow not based on chadness, but on whether you train them or not. Test variances need not apply because you'll never measure them and you'll never compare with anyone else. Nobody gives a fuck about this because whatever level you have, you can't change it, short of having a literal problem with test, in which case a doctor can easily change it.
Case in point:
1. if you think you have a test problem, get a doc to check it, he can solve it with injections, no reason to whine, and don't tell me injecting yourself every now and then is an actual obstacle that you find unfair, you baby
2. now that the test thing is solved, you can start training
3. why don't you start training?
>>29829127
>I would be accepting this injustice. Acknowledging it.
You are acknowledging it to strangers on 4chan but you won't acknowledge it to yourself?
You prefer to lie to yourself?
If you want to kill yourself that bad why post in this thread? Go do it, cuck.
>>29829021
SS = Starting Strength, it means free weights, barbell.
Introduction to Barbell Training
https://youtu.be/7HRqB30lxmo?list=PLcQezwqoDs7ECX54FS0Lnkcn47AL5a5-L
Deadlift
https://youtu.be/4AObAU-EcYE?list=PLcQezwqoDs7ECX54FS0Lnkcn47AL5a5-L
Overhead Press
https://youtu.be/CnBmiBqp-AI?list=PLcQezwqoDs7ECX54FS0Lnkcn47AL5a5-L
Bench Press
https://youtu.be/4T9UQ4FBVXI?list=PLcQezwqoDs7ECX54FS0Lnkcn47AL5a5-L
Power Clean
https://youtu.be/wIB_X2N6020?list=PLcQezwqoDs7ECX54FS0Lnkcn47AL5a5-L
>>29827414
I am 197 cm and 110 kilos and have stayed that weight for half a year now, i'm 19 and really want to get fit. What is the best option for me to start with?
>>29829149
You get less in life because you are a retard compared to "Chad" anyways. Might as well work hard to get SOMETHING.
>I don't get that
Of course you don't
>>29829160
>You weren't, you were talking about test level very specifically.
Yes but not in relation to me specifically.
>What the fuck, just fucking do it. Chad DOESN'T REAL, you moron. You don't know Chad, you don't know his life or his struggle, and you don't care.
Wrong. I know guys who are tall, thanks to this they are confident and better at pretty much EVERYTHING you can think of compared to me. Seriously, whatever I pick up, I get fucked. I know guys like that.
>If you suddenly became a Chad, life wouldn't become magnificent all of a sudden, especially with your state of mind.
Exactly. After being shat on all my life for my ugliness and shortness my problems wouldn't go away. Only thing that could help is getting reborn as Chad with Chad genetics.
>You can't take responsibility for anything, that's your problem. Play the cards you were dealth, stop whining that they're not good cards, for Christ's sake.
Why should I? It's not fair that I got shitty cards.
>Come the fuck on, man. Whining about things doesn't change them. Learn this fast.
Neither does working hard. If you work hard, the injustice is still there. You haven't changed anything, you just accepted it like a cuck.
> A woman has no reason to go for a sucker with shit attitude and shit body when she can go for someone who has a positive attitude and a nice body. Wake up. You wouldn't go for a fat cunt who has a shit attitude either, so don't do double standards.
Just like a woman has no reason to go for a short and ugly guy (even if he is fairly accomplished and has a nice body) if she can get someone tall and good looking.
>Circular logic: if you can become a Chad, you always were a Chad.
You know I'm right.
>>29829055
>Mostly saying how it doesn't matter where you are starting when it clearly does.
Mostly? Are you fucking kidding me? You're calling me out on this? No, it doesn't matter where you start, because you must start somewhere. What matters is how far you go. I've seen people who started as obese pieces of shit and now they look like gods. They had it worse than you, but who's a fucking idiot now? You, because you decided not to go for anything. You're like a faggot on a race, starting behind some, but ahead of others, and you refuse to run because some start ahead. The fat cunt behind you chose to run, quickly went past you, and now reached levels you'll never reach if you don't start moving forward. How hard is this to understand?
What do you prefer: being a loser for the rest of your life or making a fucking effort?
All you'll have is whining eventually. Do you want to be a grown man who whines like a baby or do you want to get down to work?
If you're going to spot injustices, make sure to see all the ways in which you are privileged compared to others, not just who has it better than you.
>>29829149
>>What do I care at what value people see me?
>Because this determines what you get in life. When you work hard and get less than a Chad, you're a retard.
You won't understand me, I get that but I tell you that your beliefs are wrong. I'd rather be a retard that puts a lot of work to be half as good as Chad than be a retard that isn't even one percent as good as anyone else.
Also if you honestly believe friends leave you because of an alternative you never had friends. I should pity you bit you are too toxic for me to respect you.
Your value (if you want to talk in such a shitty construct) consists of a lot more than genetics.
I really am sorry for you. Maybe someday you will accept who you are. Maybe.
>>29829220
You are the definition of a cuck, it's hilarious. What a mindset to have.
>>29829188
Thanks, some English terms are too foreign to me.
Also thanks for the list of links
>>29829175
>Nobody gives a fuck about this because whatever level you have, you can't change it, short of having a literal problem with test, in which case a doctor can easily change it.
But someone with higher level gets muscles easily. That's the problem.
>1. if you think you have a test problem, get a doc to check it, he can solve it with injections, no reason to whine, and don't tell me injecting yourself every now and then is an actual obstacle that you find unfair, you baby
It is. Why should I do that when Chad doesn't have to? It's not fair.
>>29829176
I don't lie to myself. I know it exists. But if I worked to overcome it, then I will be accepting it. I don't know how to explain it, but there is a difference between knowing something is a certain way and being reconciled with it. If I worked hard for my unfair advantages, I would be reconciled. And I don't want to do that.
>>29829055
>Now imagine you get born short and ugly. So your starting position is let's say 15. If you lift and get a good body, your value raises less and in the end it's still worse. And you say that it doesn't matter.
If you are so sure that nothing can be done, why are you here?
>I do. Why get humiliated? Letting yourself be humiliated is cucked.
Your behaviour is humiliating, in case you weren't aware of that. You speak like the biggest, sorest loser I have ever known. You make everyone not want to even know you or care for you. Women must run away from you faster than light.
>So? It doesn't matter how many people think this way. It matters if it's the truth or not.
Being the truth or not means nothing to you. What matters is what you decide to do. And you choose to whine like a child. What do you expect, God to come down and make things fair? You know that's not going to happen, right? You can either work against the odds and count your blessings, or whine, whine, whine.
>Why should I make effort for unfair worse results? Why should I accept this injustice like a cuck?
You've more than accepted the injustice: you allow it. Instead of working against it and change, you've accepted your place as an inferior piece of shit. How cucked can you get?
>>29829149
You're incredibly dense and are so insecure to the point that you're making excuses out of stuff that is inevitable. If someone's gifted and is better than you at something then they simply are. You're likely to be better than them at something, maybe not that same thing, but something else. If you can't accept that life isn't fair for everyone and that people will never be the same then you might as well off yourself, and this world wasn't meant for you.
>>29829263
>It's not fair
Cuck
>>29829084
>You're happy that someone is better? You do know that life is competition, right?
How is someone being good at chess competition for me? Are you fucking idiotic? I teach my students to play chess on a weekly basis, because it's good for the brain, has health benefits, is a smart game, and develops all sorts of useful skills. Do you think I feel in competition with my students? They challenged me once, for fun, and I checkmated them all in 4 moves. There's no competition here, but even if a student won against me, what do you think would happen? I'd be proud of them. What's to lose? Nothing. You're too fucking insecure to ever lose anything. You're scared. That's your main problem. You'd rather never try than lose. You got it all wrong.
Losing isn't failing, not ever trying is absolute failure.
>>29829223
>No, it doesn't matter where you start, because you must start somewhere. What matters is how far you go.
If you start way behind the starting line, you're obviously not going to further than someone who starts at the starting line.
>You're like a faggot on a race, starting behind some, but ahead of others, and you refuse to run because some start ahead.
That's exactly correct.
>The fat cunt behind you chose to run, quickly went past you, and now reached levels you'll never reach if you don't start moving forward. How hard is this to understand?
And if I choose to run, some Chad would be far ahead of me and humiliate me. Nah, thanks. That aint gonna happen.
>What do you prefer: being a loser for the rest of your life or making a fucking effort?
Making effort doesn't mean I will not be a loser.
>Do you want to be a grown man who whines like a baby or do you want to get down to work?
That's just normie shaming and you know it.
>If you're going to spot injustices, make sure to see all the ways in which you are privileged compared to others, not just who has it better than you.
I see those. Makes me hate myself.
>>29829084
>Why should anyone react the way you did? It makes no sense.
Because I don't want to end up like you. I'd rather take the hard way, which gives more benefits than the easy way, more experience too, than not even try.
When Chads have it easier, they also develop less skills. There is justice in the world, you just refuse to see it. Anyone who ever had it harder also developed better skills and sharper understanding. Having it harder comes with better rewards too. When more is demanded of you, you become better. Try to see it.
I used to go to the gym but then I realized, hey, I can't workout my face. I'll always be ugly. What's the point. So I stopped after 3 months
My quads and ass got all pumped and more defined, but who cares, anyone who goes after a girl for her body just wants a hole to fuck and I don't want to be just that
>>29829232
> I'd rather be a retard that puts a lot of work to be half as good as Chad than be a retard that isn't even one percent as good as anyone else.
Then you really are a retard.
>Also if you honestly believe friends leave you because of an alternative you never had friends.
I know. I never had friends. Or rather I never considered anyone to be my friend, even though some people considered me to be their friend.
>Your value (if you want to talk in such a shitty construct) consists of a lot more than genetics.
Genetics are the baseline.
>>29829299
>Chad will humiliate me
HERE WE GOOOOOOO
YOUR EGO IS YOUR ENEMY NOT CHAD
YOUR EGO IS YOUR ENEMY NOT CHAD
YOUR EGO IS YOUR ENEMY NOT CHAD
YOUR EGO IS YOUR ENEMY NOT CHAD
YOUR EGO IS YOUR ENEMY NOT CHAD
YOUR EGO IS YOUR ENEMY NOT CHAD
>>29829084
>I'm scum for not wanting to be treated worse and having to work harder for things out of my control?
You're scum for denying that they are in your control. You're scum for being so negative.
Either take your life, or live, but don't dance around the issue like an absolute cuckold.
>Exactly. Why not? Why should it not be?
Because it's life, it's not a fucking fantasy you think up in your head. Besides, life is fair. You work, you get results. You don't work, you get nothing.
You know what's not fair? That someone, somewhere, has it worse than you, yet works hard every day to improve, and you don't, and you still get better results and a better life than them.
You told me this doesn't matter, but that's exactly what you do about Chad. Illogical. You can't decide that comparison is only valid one way and not another.
If you're willing to use Chad, you also have to handle Chan, a Chinese kid who works 15 hours in a sweatshop while you don't have to.
>>29829268
>If you are so sure that nothing can be done, why are you here?
To argue with retards like you.
>Your behaviour is humiliating, in case you weren't aware of that. You speak like the biggest, sorest loser I have ever known. You make everyone not want to even know you or care for you. Women must run away from you faster than light.
Insults and shaming. No arguments at all.
> What do you expect, God to come down and make things fair? You know that's not going to happen, right? You can either work against the odds and count your blessings, or whine, whine, whine.
Or maybe normies could choose not to treat people unfairly for things out of their control. But they don't.
>Instead of working against it and change, you've accepted your place as an inferior piece of shit. How cucked can you get?
By working hard I would be supporting unfair normie society. That's even worse.
>>29829282
>If you can't accept that life isn't fair for everyone and that people will never be the same then you might as well off yourself, and this world wasn't meant for you.
I guess. I will believe this until it gets disproven. But if it's the truth (no matter how unpleasant) then I'm not gonna ignore it.
>>29829127
>Playing a rigged game doesn't make you brave or smart. It makes you a retard.
The only way not to play is to kill yourself, and you haven't done that. So what is it, are you in or are you out?
If you choose to live, do your best. Otherwise you're just wasting your time.
But understand this: you earned what you have now. It's your own damn fault by now.
>>29829134
>I can't seem to get into lifting though. I've been doing squats, situps and pushups for the last 2 weeks however. Am I wasting my time on those?
Drop situps, but the rest is great. Add chinups and some form of overhead presses or military presses and you have a complete work out.
You aren't wasting your time. See guide for more.
>>29829088
I don't want test for muscles. I'm sure I'm low test, but not low enough to get on TRT
>>29829290
>You're too fucking insecure to ever lose anything. You're scared. That's your main problem. You'd rather never try than lose. You got it all wrong.
Losing is humiliating. Why accept it. It's what normies want you to do.
>Losing isn't failing, not ever trying is absolute failure.
I disagree.
>>29829306
>When Chads have it easier, they also develop less skills.
[citation needed]
If anything Chads develop more skills faster.
>When more is demanded of you, you become better. Try to see it.
And lucky gifted people will still shit on you.
>>29829319
The thing is, it's not a problem. But you're making it one because you're too much of faggot to get off your ass and do something for yourself. "Oh this person is taller than me and they can reach the top shelf and i can't, that's unfair! Life is unfair! I should be tall like him!" Life doesn't work this way and you're better off dead than putting people who can actually think and want to feel better about themselves down because you simply don't have the right mindset or the willpower to help yourself
>>29829354
>My life is controlled by normies!
Truly pathetic. They don't control you. They don't force you to be cruel. They don't force you to remember injustices from YEARS ago.
THATS ALL YOU SENPAI
>>29829342
>Besides, life is fair. You work, you get results. You don't work, you get nothing.
That is literally not true
I'm not even siding with the faggot you're arguing with but come on lad, fairness is bullshit. Life isn't fair. Life isn't pretty. It just is what it is and you do what you must, and what some people must do is for some more, some less
>>29829149
>Because this determines what you get in life.
It doesn't. People see what you show them, and considering what YOU show them, they have no reason to want you on their team. You made yourself a piece of shit and now you're upset that people mind the smell. You're a fucking joke.
>When you work hard and get less than a Chad, you're a retard.
Chad, Chad, Chad. Chad is your excuse for everything. There is no Chad. There are only people, and some of them work for things, and others whine. Choose your team but don't whine about it.
>But truth is if some non-crippled guy (or whatever is actually wrong with you) came along, that would game over for you.
This isn't true at all. You think people are robots and just compute parameters. You don't get it. If I were a woman, I'd sooner date crippled anon than you, simply because he makes a fucking effort and sounds like a positive guy to be around. Even if his dick was smaller than yours, I'd still rather fuck a fun cock than gloom and doom sad penor.
>>29829385
>they will shit on you
Who cares? That's your ego talking, saying it's important to be "socially competitive". Put a fucking wife out of your mind. Work on yourself maybe.
>>29829342
>You're scum for denying that they are in your control. You're scum for being so negative.
People get treated like shit for being ugly, short. Many things out of your control.
>Besides, life is fair. You work, you get results. You don't work, you get nothing.
Sometimes you work, you get better results than others who worked. How is that fair?
>You know what's not fair? That someone, somewhere, has it worse than you, yet works hard every day to improve, and you don't, and you still get better results and a better life than them.
You're right.
>If you're willing to use Chad, you also have to handle Chan, a Chinese kid who works 15 hours in a sweatshop while you don't have to.
Except I will never meet or fight with Chan over anything. This isn't true for local Chad.
>>29829367
>But understand this: you earned what you have now. It's your own damn fault by now.
Good job ignoring everything I've said.
>>29829415
Life is very fair. There are objective rules to follow. If you're short and ugly, you need to be extra nice, and less petty than anyone else, to make up for it. Instead you use that as an excuse to be extra CRUEL.
>>29829389
> "Oh this person is taller than me and they can reach the top shelf and i can't, that's unfair! Life is unfair! I should be tall like him!"
Yeah just try to pretend that reaching the top shelf is all that height matters in.
>>29829394
Never said that.
>>29829419
>Who cares? That's your ego talking
If not wanting to be shat on means I have an ego, then yeah I fucking do.
>>29829220
>Yes but not in relation to me specifically.
Absolutely no reason not to be specific here, and specifically about you. Only reason you have is being a little bitch.
>>29829220
>Wrong. I know guys who are tall, thanks to this they are
I know tall guys who are less confident because of their size. They even think they're less considered because of it. If you were tall, you'd think exactly like this too. Grass is greener on the other side, etc.
> better at pretty much EVERYTHING you can think of compared to me.
Of course, with your attitude, you end up being shit at everything. You can't even breathe without failing, because you need to fail at everything to feel justified. You're a baby.
>After being shat on all my life for my ugliness and shortness my problems wouldn't go away.
Even if you posted a picture and everyone saw you weren't ugly, you'd still think you're ugly, because it's a nice excuse. What does it fucking matter if you're ugly anyway? Women? They don't care all that much about your face. You'd know that if you knew women.
>>29829430
You are ignoring everything HE said, actually. Your eyes are blinded. Go outside and be nice for once (that means not caring if people make fun of you)
>>29829451
How is it fair to be subjected to much harder scrutiny for things completely out of your control? It isn't.
Life may be simple but it's definitely not fair
>>29829418
>It doesn't. People see what you show them
I can't choose not to show my inferiority. It's VERY apparent.
>There are only people, and some of them work for things, and others whine. Choose your team but don't whine about it.
I did. It's the team which doesn't just accept injustice.
>If I were a woman, I'd sooner date crippled anon than you, simply because he makes a fucking effort and sounds like a positive guy to be around. Even if his dick was smaller than yours, I'd still rather fuck a fun cock than gloom and doom sad penor.
Obviously. Because women would see he is meek. That he accepts humiliation and works hard unfairly. Like a good dog. Women love good obedient doggy-men.
>>29829451
Why the fuck should I be extra nice? I didn't CHOOSE to be short and ugly. I'm really getting pissed off here.
>>29829220
>Only thing that could help is getting reborn as Chad with Chad genetics.
This is fucking stupid.
>Why should I? It's not fair that I got shitty cards.
At what point do you stop whining and start working?
>Why should I? It's not fair that I got shitty cards.
Really, faggot? People uglier and shorter than you got a much better life. Do you need a list of ugly short fuckers who got a great life by working hard?
>>29829460
>Never said that.
You implied it. By blaming normies you imply they have some sort of control over your actions.
And "being shat on"? Making a joke about being short or ugly? That's better than ignoring it. Better to laugh at yourself along with everyone else than feel resentment. (you will still argue)
>>29829220
>You haven't changed anything, you just accepted it like a cuck.
This is where you fail at logic. You think that doing nothing about an injustice is not "accepting it", but that countering it is "accepting it like a cuck". You are fucking dumb.
You're a weakling, you think muscles are gained from just genetics, which is wrong. Muscles don't grow by themselves, you have to work. Chad got them by working. There's no way around it.
Now, there's no injustice here. You either work for it or you don't. Period. You just want excuses.
>>29829480
>Go outside and be nice for once (that means not caring if people make fun of you)
>that means not caring if people make fun of you
So people make fun of me for something I can't change. And I should just ignore that? Do I need any more evidence that Nick and his sycophants are retarded cucks?
>>29829462
>They even think they're less considered because of it. If you were tall, you'd think exactly like this too.
I've never met ANYONE like that. I think you're full of shit. Tall guys have it better.
>
Of course, with your attitude, you end up being shit at everything. You can't even breathe without failing, because you need to fail at everything to feel justified. You're a baby.
How do you think I got this attitude in the first place? I wasn't always like this. I was positive when I was young. But years of failure, hard work and humiliation change you.
>Even if you posted a picture and everyone saw you weren't ugly, you'd still think you're ugly, because it's a nice excuse. What does it fucking matter if you're ugly anyway? Women? They don't care all that much about your face. You'd know that if you knew women.
Lol. Sure. It seems to me you're the one who doesn't know real women.
>>29829220
>Just like a woman has no reason to go for a short and ugly guy (even if he is fairly accomplished and has a nice body) if she can get someone tall and good looking.
There are so many examples of this being untrue. Are you retarded? A woman will go for someone she loves. Personality counts a lot too. But yes, absolutely no woman would go for you because you're a toxic waste of space.
>>29829499
>>29829497
I'm gettin pissed off too. You think Chad CHOSE to be tall? To always be the center of attention? To have every mistake he makes made fun of?
HE DIDNT CHOOSE HIS LIFE ANYMORE THAN YOU DID
REFUTE THIS I DARE YOU
>>29829545
>You're a weakling, you think muscles are gained from just genetics, which is wrong. Muscles don't grow by themselves, you have to work. Chad got them by working. There's no way around it.
It's not the size of the muscles that matter but the frame and the shape of thd insertions
That's genetic
>>29828740
>Men who have more testosterone grow muscle more. That's that.
This isn't even true, test levels don't cause much difference this way within the normal distribution, it's once you start getting to significantly heightened levels that it does.
I agree with the others though, you came into a thread where he tried to help someone and started shitting on him and trying to tear him down because you can't be fucked doing anything. Fuck off.
This argument is literally the biggest waste of time i've seen on this site in a while. Guys please ignore this guy and get back to helping each other get fit and feel better about themselves, instead of arguing with someone who is so obviously wrong and won't be convinced otherwise.
>>29829568
But the thing he didn't choose make his life easier and better
The thing ugly and short people didn't choose makes their lives worse
Hello nick
How are you today nickI love you but I'm not gay
>>29829515
>At what point do you stop whining and start working?
When you disprove that I have to work harder for things out of my control.
>Really, faggot? People uglier and shorter than you got a much better life. Do you need a list of ugly short fuckers who got a great life by working hard?
And if they got born superior, they would have better cards.
>>29829537
>You implied it. By blaming normies you imply they have some sort of control over your actions.
If you want to participate in normie society, then they do have control over your actions.
> Better to laugh at yourself along with everyone else than feel resentment. (you will still argue)
To laugh at yourself? For something you couldn't change? To laugh at your own misfortune? Do you have no pride at all?
>>29829545
>This is where you fail at logic. You think that doing nothing about an injustice is not "accepting it", but that countering it is "accepting it like a cuck". You are fucking dumb.
Explain how am I wrong. It's normies who try to push me into hard work to compensate for things out of my control. If I work hard I am accepting their pressure. If I work hard, it means they broke me.
>Now, there's no injustice here. You either work for it or you don't. Period. You just want excuses.
Unless everyone gets exactly the same results for their work, there is injustice.
>>29829220
>>Circular logic: if you can become a Chad, you always were a Chad.
>You know I'm right.
I don't. The day you consider me a Chad, what will you say? That I've always been one, even when you said I wasn't?
The only rigged game here is the mindtricks you play on yourself. You will do everything you can to avoid responsibility in your own life.
You will get exactly what you deserve.
Yes, the cards we're dealt aren't our responsibility, but what we do with them is. I was born with some major flaws, and I worked on them. I had to struggle against things others didn't have. You only see the injustice, I see all I gained from experiencing this that others did not. It made me who I am. I have learned from those things. There is deep justice in how things go.
>>29828852
I've seen him in threads too, on extremely similar topics, and you're right, he's never able to actually let go of a point or actually argue in a way that sticks to facts, it's all about trying to convince himself that its' not his fault he's a failure.
Don't stop posting these threads, be the change /r9k/ so desperately needs.
>>29829232
This guy is 100% class. I'm sorry Negative Nancy can't learn from you.
>>29829565
>There are so many examples of this being untrue. Are you retarded?
Anecdotal evidence, best friend of a normie.
>>29829568
Yeah Chad didn't choose to be born superior to me. I'm not gonna refute that. But if inferior people can get treated like shit by superior people for things out of their control, why couldn't it be the other way?
>>29829577
>This isn't even true, test levels don't cause much difference this way within the normal distribution, it's once you start getting to significantly heightened levels that it does.
[citation needed]
>>29829579
Yes ignore the truth. Good doggy. Good cuck.
>>29829257
>Thanks, some English terms are too foreign to me.
Don't worry, I used to think SS meant not eating much for months, until you looked like an Auschwitz inmate.
>>29829263
>But someone with higher level gets muscles easily. That's the problem.
That's not a problem. It's none of your business, is it? What if YOU have a higher level of test? Then what? Are you going to use that asset or whine that it's not fair to others? You never whine about how you have it better than others, do you? You don't. You should be fucking ashamed. Right in this thread is someone who has a muscular problem, yet I don't hear him whine about you having it better, being a Chad with all the luck in the world compared to him. Some people die at 15 because if diseases, and you don't; what do you think this is? Justice? Do you think these people are jealous of you and would rather you don't use your chance? Grow the fuck up, do your best with what you have, like everyone else, stop acting like a fucking princess.
>>29829592
>When you disprove that I have to work harder for things out of my control.
No one is going to disprove that. You do have to work harder for things that're more out of your control. So do it.
>If you want to participate in normie society, then they do have control over your actions.
So you are forced to be nice and not care when people make fun of you. THE FUCKING HORROR
>To laugh at yourself? For something you couldn't change? To laugh at your own misfortune? Do you have no pride at all?
Don't talk to me about pride.
>Explain how am I wrong. It's normies who try to push me into hard work to compensate for things out of my control. If I work hard I am accepting their pressure. If I work hard, it means they broke me.
You're already crippled and broken, it's clear to see. You have a lot of work to do.
>>29829585
>higher expectations of you
>easier and better
>>29829593
>I don't. The day you consider me a Chad, what will you say? That I've always been one, even when you said I wasn't?
Through things out of your control, you had the potential for Chadness. You aren't short, I don't know how you look though.
>You will do everything you can to avoid responsibility in your own life.
I'm not responsible for being short, for having a small dick and shitty facial bone structure.
>You will get exactly what you deserve.
Why does Chad get more for things out of his control? Why do I deserrve less?
>>29829263
>It is. Why should I do that when Chad doesn't have to? It's not fair.
Why? Because if you have a fucking test problem, you have to get it solved, that's why. Are you retarded? What's hard to understand? If you ever burst a tyre on the road, are you going to whine that it's not fair that it happened to you and not the driver behind you? Are you this retarded?
>literally too autistic to accept randomness in life
>decides to stop living
>yet continues living
>>29829579
I think I understand why people get so annoyed with threads like this
People touting physical fitness as this type of great cure-all that would fix all your problems is just so phony.
Like say some hack selling you this herbal mixture saying that it'll cure disease. What it dies is it boosts your immune system and sure, can help cure your flu or your stomach aches or whatever, but trying to sell it to people who have fucking cancer or something, to whom said herbal mixture will do literally fuck all is just kinda cruel. And then they go and say if the herbs didn't work it's because you suck and fucked it up somewhere cause people are equal and the world is fair and if you had taken the prescription right you'd be better already. Like fuck off.
>>>/sci/8193137
Listen to him well. He's /fit/. You can become /fit/ too, if you try! Or better yet, do! Do or do not! There is no try! Yoda!
Difference between being a Betamon and an Alphamon I suppose.
>>29829650
No one has higher expectations of Chad
He's not the one who has to be extra nice "or else"
>>29829631
Not a cuck for wanting people to stop arguing with you. You're the cuck for getting hurt over something as dumb as people being born with better genetics than you. Nick could be helping people change their whole lives and instead he's wasting his time arguing with one guy, and for what? You're too dense to understand, and simply a waste of time. You're not worth anybody's time. Haven't you noticed that not a single person in this thread shares the same views as you? Because you're simply wrong. A weak human being that can't understand that life isn't a fairy tale and that you have to work for things to happen. Also Nick, i love you, no homo
>>29829647
>That's not a problem. It's none of your business, is it? What if YOU have a higher level of test? Then what? Are you going to use that asset or whine that it's not fair to others? You never whine about how you have it better than others, do you? You don't. You should be fucking ashamed.
I don't know. I can only assume and I think my test levels are actually little higher. But I haven't been tested. It's not fair that I got born with this advantage.
>Right in this thread is someone who has a muscular problem, yet I don't hear him whine about you having it better, being a Chad with all the luck in the world compared to him.
Because he is a cuck.
> Some people die at 15 because if diseases, and you don't; what do you think this is? Justice?
It's not.
>Do you think these people are jealous of you and would rather you don't use your chance?
If they're not jealous and angry that some people have it better than them, then they are retards.
>>29829650
>You do have to work harder for things that're more out of your control. So do it.
No. Why should I? It's not fair.
>So you are forced to be nice and not care when people make fun of you. THE FUCKING HORROR
Not caring when people make fun of you is pretty fucking horrible. Being forced to put on fake smile when you're being laughed at and humiliated. Being forced to act like you're okay being insulted AGAIN AND AGAIN FOR THINGS YOU CAN NOT CHANGE. And if you speak up, they tear you up like the fucking vultures they are.
where could i buy a scale? do you think wall mart would have them?
>>29829299
>If you start way behind the starting line, you're obviously not going to further than someone who starts at the starting line.
Wrong. If they stop before you and you keep going, you end up before them. It's fucking logical. You aren't the only faggot who's a negative bitch, you know. A lot of people give up.
>And if I choose to run, some Chad would be far ahead of me and humiliate me. Nah, thanks. That aint gonna happen.
So, basically, you're scared of Chad, a concept that doesn't exist. What the fuck, man, do you literally go out and see "Chads" out there? Are you this insane?
>That aint gonna happen.
You are humiliated beyond anything anyone could do to you. Either that or you're just trolling for attention and don't really think much of what you claim to think.
>Making effort doesn't mean I will not be a loser.
You ARE a loser.
>That's just normie shaming and you know it.
Shaming? Really now? I knew you were a crypto-SJW but now you're not even hiding it. You should be ashamed, of a lot of things.
Are you willing to make an effort and try, or will you stay a cucked baby for the rest of your life? Your choice.
>>29829707
Dude don't you see that he's so pathetic that every single person outside is a Chad to him?
>>29829299
>I see those. Makes me hate myself.
There's still hope then. Squandering your potential the way you do is an insult to those who don't have that potential. Like everyone else, do your best and help others.
The competition you believe in doesn't exist the way you think it does.
>>29829663
>If you ever burst a tyre on the road, are you going to whine that it's not fair that it happened to you and not the driver behind you? Are you this retarded?
Exactly.
>literally too autistic to accept randomness in life
There is no reason to accept it without anger and bitterness.
>>29829697
>Haven't you noticed that not a single person in this thread shares the same views as you? Because you're simply wrong.
Ad populum.
>A weak human being that can't understand that life isn't a fairy tale and that you have to work for things to happen.
So letting people laugh at you (like someone else said) and accepting unfairness and injustice. Accepting bad treatment from normies for things you can't change, that's the opposite of "weak" to you? Boy you have some weird opinions.
>>29829700
>Not caring when people make fun of you is pretty fucking horrible.
Caring is worse.
>Being forced to put on fake smile when you're being laughed at and humiliated.
Why would it be a "fake" smile if you didn't care?
>Being forced to act like you're okay being insulted AGAIN AND AGAIN FOR THINGS YOU CAN NOT CHANGE.
Stop acting then and be real. Stop caring.
>And if you speak up, they tear you up like the fucking vultures they are.
Yea, if you expect randos to not make fun of a goblin-looking motherfucker, you're a sociopath. Maybe learn how to take a hit and give one back instead of forcing yourself to "deflect" the hit in the first place.
>>29829310
>anyone who goes after a girl for her body just wants a hole to fuck and I don't want to be just that
That doesn't make sense. You can go for a smart girl with a hot bod. I don't see how that connects to you and your body, though.
>caring about one's man face
>doing this
>>29829743
I'm a girl, nick. That's the connection.
>>29829319
You should be ashamed of talking to him like that. He's gold compared to you, you turd.
You are seriously the worst piece of shit I have ever met. You literally deserve your life and everything that ever happened to you. I'm serious. You do not deserve to live. You did it all to yourself.
>>29829727
>There is no reason to accept it without anger and bitterness.
The lack of anger and bitterness isn't reason enough?
> MY REVENGE MY REVENGE I MUST HAVE MY REVENGE
How does Satan's butthole taste?
>>29829727
>So letting people laugh at you (like someone else said) and accepting unfairness and injustice. Accepting bad treatment from normies for things you can't change, that's the opposite of "weak" to you? Boy you have some weird opinions.
How is what you're doing "strong"? In any way?
>>29829707
>Wrong. If they stop before you and you keep going, you end up before them. It's fucking logical. You aren't the only faggot who's a negative bitch, you know. A lot of people give up.
Superior people are less likely to give up due to all the support and perks that come with superiority.
>What the fuck, man, do you literally go out and see "Chads" out there? Are you this insane?
Yes. I see men who are good looking, socially dominant and overall just superior to me at everything.
>You are humiliated beyond anything anyone could do to you.
How so?
>You ARE a loser.
Yes. So?
>Are you willing to make an effort and try, or will you stay a cucked baby for the rest of your life? Your choice.
I will not accept unfairness. That's all.
>>29829722
>The competition you believe in doesn't exist the way you think it does.
Oh it does exactly in that way.
>>29827414
So after reading this thread, can we redefine the definition of a Chad pls?
Chad's seem to be spoiled, rich cunts who have gotten everything handed to them, but were lucky enough to be born attractive. People who have their heads up their arses. Elliot Rodgers could be considered a Chad in this regard. Obviously minus the sex, but still.
And can we define people who flip their shit around as Nick's?
I know I sound legit autistic, but I feel that this thread has really shook up the idea of what a Chad actually is.
>>29829706
You can even buy them online
But yes Walmart has them
>>29829354
>To argue with retards like you.
That's a cover. I'm sure that isn't the real reason and you know I'm right.
>Insults and shaming. No arguments at all.
No arguments because I am done arguing with you. There is no point in arguing with people who don't think logic is mandatory. I am now only telling you what is what, and you, faggot, are a piece of shit who should be ashamed.
>Or maybe normies could choose not to treat people unfairly for things out of their control. But they don't.
What are you even talking about? Most people will act nice towards you, for various reasons. You're the only cunt here who treats others unfairly. You don't actually deserve to be treated fairly. I've tried, I've given you my time and more, and you just squandered everything and now you come to everyone of my threads here just to be a piece of shit.
>>29829773
>>You are humiliated beyond anything anyone could do to you.
>How so?
>
>>You ARE a loser.
>Yes. So?
Comedy gold right here.
>>29829727
Or maybe you can simply ignore the bad treatment from "normies" and make yourself feel better? You don't need anyone else's acceptance. You don't need someone to make you feel good. Your whole argument revolves around other people. Just do whatever makes you happy. Stop comparing yourself to others because yes not everyone is the same. You do you, and stop worrying about what everyone else thinks, stop worrying about this "Chad" that so obviously haunts your life
>>29829739
>Caring is worse.
True. Fighting back is the best. They have no right to humiliate you for things out of your control.
>Why would it be a "fake" smile if you didn't care?
Because I do care.
>Stop acting then and be real. Stop caring.
Why should I stop caring about being treated like shit?
>Yea, if you expect randos to not make fun of a goblin-looking motherfucker, you're a sociopath.
This is normies for you, ladies and gentlemen.
>>29829759
Who gives a shit, fuck off, I'm talking to him here.
>>29829760
>The lack of anger and bitterness isn't reason enough?
No.
>>29829769
Easy. You have a big force you can't really beat (normies). They treat you like shit. If you act like you're okay with it, you're weak. if you don't act like you're okay with it, then they will crush you but at least you know you didn't succumb.
>>29829354
>By working hard I would be supporting unfair normie society. That's even worse.
Yeah, you're a real fucking hero.
How does working hard at your body support "the evil society"? You're an idiot.
>>29829354
>I guess. I will believe this until it gets disproven. But if it's the truth (no matter how unpleasant) then I'm not gonna ignore it.
Look, you don't care about the truth. You care about not making an effort and not facing problems. You're just a scared child. That's all. Do you understand you WILL get what you deserve either way? If you stay as you are, you will get more of the same, and worse. And it will be deserved, because you did nothing to prevent it. That is your CHOICE.
>>29827504
how much weight should I use?
I have a barbell with 30kg of weights and I'm pretty skinny.
I don't know if that will help since that workout plan looks kinda easy
>>29829776
Yes pls
Nick is great
>>29829811
>Easy. You have a big force you can't really beat (normies). They treat you like shit. If you act like you're okay with it, you're weak. if you don't act like you're okay with it, then they will crush you but at least you know you didn't succumb.
You have a big force you can't really beat (your ego). It treats you like you are less valuable because of a stranger's behavior. If you act like you're okay with it, you're weak. if you don't act like you're okay with it, then it
will NOT crush you and you know you didn't succumb.
>>29829791
>That's a cover. I'm sure that isn't the real reason and you know I'm right.
You're right. I guess I'm looking for a viewpoint other than
>hurr werld iz unfaihr, just deal wid it
>What are you even talking about? Most people will act nice towards you, for various reasons.
Many people automatically treat ugly people worse. This is a fact.
>>29829795
How is that comedy? Ignoring the truth that I am inferior is retarded. I know I am inferior. I don't see why I should be treated worse for it, if I didn't choose it.
>>29829799
>Or maybe you can simply ignore the bad treatment from "normies" and make yourself feel better?
But why? It shouldn't even be here in the first place, the bad treatment I mean.
>Just do whatever makes you happy.
Not possible. You need money to do things. And to get money you need to participate in normie society.
>Stop comparing yourself to others because yes not everyone is the same.
That's retarded.
>>29829379
>I don't want test for muscles. I'm sure I'm low test, but not low enough to get on TRT
Are you a doctor? How the fuck would you know if you're low test?
If you're not low enough to get a treatment, then you are perfectly fine to grow some muscle. No more excuses.
>>29829385
>Losing is humiliating. Why accept it. It's what normies want you to do.
Losing isn't humiliating if you lose like a winner, with grace. Losing is what happens when you play, when you try. Everyone loses. Being scared of it is the worst failure you can ever fear. Normies lose too. You really need to stop using "normie" and "Chad" as seriously as you do, you need fucking therapy. These concepts have become realities to you. You wouldn't see a real non-normie if you met one, anyway. They're just excuses to you.
>I disagree.
Of course you disagree, you're so scared of failing and losing that you cannot accept that your entire life, right now, is a gigantic failure and loss. You thought not playing meant you weren't losing? Think again. Look around. Look at yourself. Count your friends. Count your girlfriends. Is this winning?
>If anything Chads develop more skills faster.
Illogical. If someone is under less duress, they don't need better skills than you to fight the problems. Whether this is physical or mental.
>And lucky gifted people will still shit on you.
Are you scared of people shitting on you? Are you some sort of pussy? The most people can do is confirm what you fear about yourself. But yes, I confirm that you think like a weak faggot, that you hate yourself but aren't willing to make an effort. You deserve to be shat on. Do you understand that? You DESERVE it. Unless you change, you deserve it.
>>29829868
>I know I am inferior. I don't see why I should be treated worse for it, if I didn't choose it.
And you're the one calling people retards? Cows get fucking EATEN. They are seen as INFERIOR. Did they CHOOSE to be born in a SLAUGHTERHOUSE?
>>29829389
This.
>>29829415
Life is fair, it's just not based on pleasing you. What happens is logical, not morally motivated.
>>29829818
>How does working hard at your body support "the evil society"? You're an idiot.
Any participation in society supports it.
>That's all. Do you understand you WILL get what you deserve either way? If you stay as you are, you will get more of the same, and worse. And it will be deserved, because you did nothing to prevent it. That is your CHOICE.
It would be different if I was born better. Therefore my choice isn't really the most important thing.
>>29829867
>You have a big force you can't really beat (your ego). It treats you like you are less valuable because of a stranger's behavior.
That's retarded. You tried turning it around, but you failed really.
>>29829882
>Literally being compared to another species altogether
There is really no warmth no justice no sympathy for the ugly person in today's society
>>29829892
Fairness is a moral concept so if life isn't moral it can't possibly be fair
So like I said, simple yes. Fair? No.
>>29829901
The point is if you are ugly and expect to be held to the same beauty standards as a Chad you are just an SJW. How are you not an SJW? I'll wait.
>>29829430
>People get treated like shit for being ugly, short. Many things out of your control.
You think you're still in High School. Grow the fuck up, you won't be in school forever.
>Sometimes you work, you get better results than others who worked. How is that fair?
Observe the reasons why you get better results. It will be fair. If you're more intelligent, your work may be superior, it's only fair.
>Except I will never meet or fight with Chan over anything. This isn't true for local Chad.
Really? Chan is working for your ass right now. How many items have you bought cheap thanks to Chan having his childhood sacrificed just so you can buy a fucking football or a pair of shoes? Don't kid yourself, Chan is getting raped body and soul to help support your lifestyle.
You don't need to fight Chan because he has already lost to you in the worst ways possible.
>>29829879
But I wanna be high test
Pls help, Nick
>>29829928
I don't expect it at all, I'm not delusional
I'm not the guy everyone is yelling at
All this time so far I'm just pointing out there is no such a thing as fairness
>>29829882
No they didn't and it's not fair.
>>29829879
>Losing isn't humiliating if you lose like a winner, with grace.
That's just a normie platitude.
>Losing is what happens when you play, when you try. Everyone loses.
Some lose less due to things out of their control.
>Being scared of it is the worst failure you can ever fear. Normies lose too.
Due to being born better and having better lives normies failures don't matter to them.
>You thought not playing meant you weren't losing? Think again. Look around. Look at yourself. Count your friends. Count your girlfriends. Is this winning?
That's not how winning is determined. Only a normie would think that. Not playing means not losing. Easy as that.
>Illogical. If someone is under less duress, the don't need better skills than you to fight the problems. Whether this is physical or mental.
It's a nice idea really, but it doesn't hold up. In reality attractive people are more succesful in everything and pretty much all that you can think of proves that you are wrong.
>Are you scared of people shitting on you? Are you some sort of pussy?
Yes. Because when people shit on me, I lash out. And when I lash out, I get punished. Obviously normies think lashing out of being treated like shit for things out of your control is not reasonable. I actually think it's more than reasonable.
All I have to say is that every man should see what his body is capable of regardless of looks, height and whatever
This fat cunt is literally the equivalent of those fat acceptance cucks who are too lazy to lose weight and just want to be accepted for being useless fuck ups
>>29829460
>If not wanting to be shat on means I have an ego, then yeah I fucking do.
Nobody wants to be shat on, but that doesn't mean you should withdraw from everything to avoid that. There's a difference. You're like a snob who doesn't think he should share his air with others.
You think you're superior to "normies" and you can't stand the idea that they may be better than you at anything, which is why you cling desperately to the idea that it's just luck, that they don't really deserve to be superior to you.
That's your problem: major ego and zero humility. If someone trains at chess for years and beats you, you can't accept that it is the result of their training. You can't accept that your inferiority is the result of your lack of training.
You wouldn't even play chess.
>>29829930
>You think you're still in High School. Grow the fuck up, you won't be in school forever.
Halo effect doesn't magically disappear the moment you graduate.
>Observe the reasons why you get better results. It will be fair. If you're more intelligent, your work may be superior, it's only fair.
It's not fair if intelligence is out of your control.
>You don't need to fight Chan because he has already lost to you in the worst ways possible.
So?
>>29827414
Nick, pls make new thread when this 404s. Can't read up on shit because I have to go to work
>>29829497
>How is it fair to be subjected to much harder scrutiny for things completely out of your control? It isn't.
It's how you are forced to better yourself. It's balance. Life helps you.
>>29829499
>I can't choose not to show my inferiority. It's VERY apparent.
The only problem with you is your mindset. Everything else you mention, I have seen in people and it wasn't a problem to them. It didn't prevent them from anything: job, women, money, success, happiness, being a good parent, a good friend, etc.
Your problem is you never consider what you are to others, only what others are to you. You don't care about helping anyone or being a good person, then you whine that nobody finds you worth their time.
What makes you think you deserve me spending literal hours of my life on you?
>>29829953
OK so "it's not fair" is your only argument, I'm out of this thread
>>29829988
>It's how you are forced to better yourself. It's balance. Life helps you.
How is it fair to be forced to do things other people don't have to?
holy shit seriously
>>>/fit/
if someone wanted to get fit he would go there
fuck off already
>this thread
Getting NEETs to exercise is no bad thing, but don't give them the wrong expectations. Look on /fit/ and see how many guys are still socially inept losers even after working for years to look good.
Do this shit for yourselves, not to be a "winner" or because you think you'll turn into a normie.
>>29829958
>Nobody wants to be shat on, but that doesn't mean you should withdraw from everything to avoid that.
Being inferior means exactly that.
>You think you're superior to "normies"
Wrong.
>and you can't stand the idea that they may be better than you at anything
True. I know I am shit. I know a big part of why I'm shit is things out of my control. And I can't stand that idea.
>You can't accept that your inferiority is the result of your lack of training.
Just today I was doing something with my cousin. He had better results even though he had less experience and worse equipment than me. And this happens very often to me.
>>29829499
>Obviously. Because women would see he is meek. That he accepts humiliation and works hard unfairly. Like a good dog. Women love good obedient doggy-men.
This is crazy. You clearly don't know women. You're making shit up about someone you don't know. Few women like submissive men. But hey, you are a submissive man. You've submitted to every problem life put in front of you. You've given up before you tried. Like a good dog.
>Why the fuck should I be extra nice? I didn't CHOOSE to be short and ugly. I'm really getting pissed off here.
You choose to be a fucking cunt. Not even a normal person should choose to be a cunt, but I'll be goddamned if I let a manlet get frisky with me. Don't make me ask you about the weather down there, gnome master.
>>29830010
Is what I said (albeit poorly) in >>29829670
Please give me a (you)
>>29830015
It's all in your head.
You have been muted for 4 seconds, because your comment was not original.
>>29829988
> Everything else you mention, I have seen in people and it wasn't a problem to them. It didn't prevent them from anything: job, women, money, success, happiness, being a good parent, a good friend, etc.
They had to work harder. That's even worse than having nothing.
>You don't care about helping anyone or being a good person, then you whine that nobody finds you worth their time.
I stopped caring about that when I realized just how fucked I'm getting for things out of my control.
>What makes you think you deserve me spending literal hours of my life on you?
I don't give a shit if you do. There are other people to argue with here.
>>29829989
And "it's just how it is" is yours.
>>29827414
Can I get big on bodyweight exercises alone?
>>29830027
>But hey, you are a submissive man. You've submitted to every problem life put in front of you. You've given up before you tried. Like a good dog.
But being submissive to normies and accept the injustice is okay?
>>29830038
No. It's reality.
>>29830040
>And "it's just how it is" is yours.
No, that seems to be your argument actually. That you can't change your lot in life no matter what. Maybe your mindset will change if your actions change.
>>29830040
>They had to work harder. That's even worse than having nothing.
That's just retarded anon. Is having to pay 15x more than Chad did to buy a house worse than being homeless?
>>29830054
Your "reality" is .0000000000000000000001% of everything there is. Fuck off with that.
>>29830057
I know I can change my life. But the change will be worse compared to Chad. That's not fair. And I'm not accepting it.
>>29830061
Yes it is.
>>29830071
Nah. Not really.
>>29829548
>I've never met ANYONE like that. I think you're full of shit. Tall guys have it better.
Do you want his fucking e-mail you moron? You're the same sort of retard: anything about you is an excuse.
If you're short, just seek a shorter girl. What the fuck is the problem with this? I know women who married shorter men, and I mean REALLY short, like 1m50 or so, the sort of guy who can't find shoes in shops and must shop at the children's section.
>How do you think I got this attitude in the first place?
Oh no, you don't get to blame anyone but yourself here. People take it easy by blaming their past, society, their parents, but I know for a fact that it's bullshit. I know people who had it far worse than you, in every aspect, and they have become golden people today. Your attitude is your choice. How you react to the world is the person you truly are. Own up to it.
>Lol. Sure. It seems to me you're the one who doesn't know real women.
I spend my life with women, and have done so for decades now. The studies I chose are mostly attended by females, and I work in a mostly female place. I know women very well. And I don't think it is required to state that I have far more female experience than you, intimately and otherwise.
>>29830073
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzMPVoQg9ng
>>29829590
I remember those abs from last night, no homo, still nice.
What's your routine?
Who /nightrunning/ here? Feels good, keeps you in shape, highly meditative, and you don't have to deal with people.
>>29830030
Given.
>>29830099
>>29830099
>>29830099
This is the thread theme
>>29830091
>Do you want his fucking e-mail you moron? You're the same sort of retard: anything about you is an excuse.
Anecdotes don't matter.
>If you're short, just seek a shorter girl. What the fuck is the problem with this?
Why should I adjust myself because of something I couldn't change?
>I know people who had it far worse than you, in every aspect, and they have become golden people today.
Like retarded cucks. If you are being treated like shit, you shouldn't be golden to people around you.
>I spend my life with women, and have done so for decades now. The studies I chose are mostly attended by females, and I work in a mostly female place. I know women very well.
And yet you don't know women lie.
>>29830073
>i'll wallow in self pity because people i don't know are getting laid
Change starts with you anon.
>>29830087
It isn't
Being homeless suck
And the second you stopped being homeless you would realize that paying 15x more was worth it
I don't have the self control or emotional stability to form a good habit like lifting. I came close once, hit the gym for a solid month, was able to squat 2 plates, then I hurt my back and lost all my progress.
I'm too lazy to feed myself these days.
>>29827414
Having a big bowl of icecream right now, Feeling good.
Honestly, if you walk 40-60 minutes a day, climb up some stairs, and you don't overeat, thats all the "fitness" you need.
The rest is decoration, making yourself pretty for the girls and your peers, and I am really not into that.
>>29829592
>When you disprove that I have to work harder for things out of my control.
I have nothing to prove to you, for one. Secondly, you have to work for things. Whether it's harder or easier, nobody cares, because you can't know, and even if you could, it makes no difference. Someone else makes gains faster than you? So? Are you going to give up because of that? If you give up, you deserve to have nothing.
>>29829592
>Explain how am I wrong.
OK. Someone distributes money on the street. You're 50 meters away from this guy, others are 10 meters away. You realise they'll get more money than you because of that. Your reaction? You don't take ANY money. Guy 100 meters away from the moneyman runs and manages to get a thousand bucks.
End results:
>guy from 10 meters away: 5000 bucks
>you: ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
>guy behind you: 1000 bucks
Who is the most cucked of all? It's you, you fucking moron. Nobody gives a fuck about your pride in not participating to "rigged games"; you got nothing to show for your misplaced ego and that makes you a fucking pathetic idiot.
>>29830105
I'd love to because I seriously hate the sun but it's too bad I live in an area with nightly random gunshots and drug trafficking
>>29830132
>Why should I adjust myself because of something I couldn't change?
Why do you want a tall girl in the first place? Because Chad has one?
YOU ARE A KEK MY FRIEND
>>29829631
>Anecdotal evidence, best friend of a normie.
You don't actually understand what "anecdotal evidence" is, you fucking, fucking moron.
Boiling water at a 100 degrees to make it turn to vapor once isn't anecdotal evidence, because it can be repeated. When you have SO MANY EXAMPLES of something being true, IT CEASES TO BE ANECDOTAL, you abysmal idiot.
>>29830135
Even people I know are. Tall guys getting gfs easily with NO effort from their part. Tall guys getting expensive gifts from their rich girlfriends. I know guys like that. While I get nothing and am expected to work hard for everything. FUCK THAT AND FUCK YOU FOR EVEN SUGGESTING IT.
>>29830146
You know what would be better? To burn down Chads house. When you are inferior you have nothing to lose anyways. It's the only way to combat injustice.
>>29829631
>But if inferior people can get treated like shit by superior people for things out of their control, why couldn't it be the other way?
Because why would you? Is it your dream to treat others like shit? You're living it. Is it great? No. Kill yourself.
>>29829631
>Yes ignore the truth. Good doggy. Good cuck.
Good cuck? How dare you call others cucks? What makes you less cucked? State your accomplishments.
>>29830185
>While I get nothing and am expected to work hard for everything
>everything
>nothing
These words, they don't mean what you think they mean
>>29829634
>And i'm gonna start working to get better just because of the dedication you've showed while arguing with this guy
I'm glad some good came of it. I knew I shouldn't give up...
>>29830158
>Someone else makes gains faster than you? So? Are you going to give up because of that? If you give up, you deserve to have nothing.
Yes I will. It's not fair.
>Who is the most cucked of all? It's you, you fucking moron. Nobody gives a fuck about your pride in not participating to "rigged games"; you got nothing to show for your misplaced ego and that makes you a fucking pathetic idiot.
Good reaction would be to attack the people who unfairly get more and take their money.
>>29830170
Because why not? Why should I not have one? Because I'm short? I didn't choose that.
>>29830181
>When you have SO MANY EXAMPLES of something being true, IT CEASES TO BE ANECDOTAL, you abysmal idiot.
And still you can't say that it will be the truth every time. Just like there are situations where water doesn't boil at 100 degrees.
>>29830185
Yeah but then Chad would just buy another house or worse yet, people would get together and make a fundraiser for him to buy a new house because everyone loves Chad and you'd still be homeless
>>29830194
>Because why would you? Is it your dream to treat others like shit? You're living it. Is it great? No. Kill yourself.
After having worse life due to things out of my control, it is in fact my dream to treat others like shit.
>Good cuck? How dare you call others cucks? What makes you less cucked? State your accomplishments.
Not just rolling over and dealing with unfairness.
>>29829652
>Through things out of your control, you had the potential for Chadness.
You have never defined Chadness, it's just whatever you aren't. How short are you?
>>29830236
Exactly. That's why you do as much damage as you can. Obviously this means you will be killed eventually but at least you will know you fought back.
>>29830169
Maybe early morning? Same deal if you can dredge yourself out of bed at 5am, I can't or just don't stick with it for long so I do nights instead.
>>29830185
You don't get handed anything so you won't try? Why are you defining yourself by what Chad does and doesn't do?
You can spend your life being jealous of what other people have or you can let go, it's up to you. I hope you find that it was really worth it choosing the former 10 years from now.
>>29830252
My personal characteristics don't matter.
>>29830237
>Not just rolling over and dealing with unfairness.
So now you bring more unfairness onto others, what a hero you are.
>>29830215
>Because why not? Why should I not have one? Because I'm short? I didn't choose that.
Maybe you're short for a reason and the reason is not to spread hatred like you think.
>>29829652
>I'm not responsible for being short, for having a small dick and shitty facial bone structure.
I tend to think you are. God decided you should be punished with a small dick for having such a shit attitude.
>Why does Chad get more for things out of his control? Why do I deserrve less?
He doesn't. He doesn't exist. Nobody is Chad, you moron.
>>29829670
>People touting physical fitness as this type of great cure-all that would fix all your problems is just so phony.
Nobody ever said that. I do say that physical fitness will go a long way to improve your life, though. It's objectively true.
Nobody says it'd fix all your problems, but it will help with a shitload of things.
>>29830260
You fought back but it was absolutely pointless
You wasted your life and your opportunity to get a house for nothing
And then you die not as a martyr, but like a retard. You fought back against a windmill.
It's not worth it anon
>>29830262
>You don't get handed anything so you won't try? Why are you defining yourself by what Chad does and doesn't do?
Because whatever I do in life I will be compared to Chad. Whatever woman I try to hit on, she will compare me to Chad. Whatever job I try to get I will me competing with Chad.
>You can spend your life being jealous of what other people have or you can let go, it's up to you. I hope you find that it was really worth it choosing the former 10 years from now.
I will stay jealous.
>>29829631
>[citation needed]
You made the claim they do, you provide the source, moron. Burden of proof is on you.
>>29829690
Handsome men are often expected to be dumb. Ask the beefy men of /fit/. When you become strong, people assume you are dumb. Absolute fact.
Successful people are expected to be better and thus have to live up to higher standards. Yes. When they fail, it's less accepted.
>>29829776
I really should stop waving my Transcendent Sword around. Swords are sharp and pointy and could do damage to someone I love! Oh no! I will be stricken with grief if I hurt the ones I love! I love everyone and everything though! Pen is mightier than the sword; I digress. Guess that's two art requests. Need to get a picture of Omnimon flipping off with his Transcendent Sword, and also need his Transcendent Sword replaced with a Transcendent Pen. I cannot draw though. Why not? Why limit myself?
In fact, now that I look through my Information Library, that's a Bruce Lee quote!
Everyone's seen Way of the Dragon? Where Bruce Lee kicks the fuck out of Chuck Norris?
Now Bruce Lee was ostracized. In an era where geeky asians were mocked and laughed at by Chad Norris Americans, Bruce Lee stood up to the challenge. And he challenged Chad. And he beat the fuck out of Chad. It's a good video. Actually, better link that. Saves you the trouble of costing your internet data having to go to Youtube, then going to the video. Save a little bit by going directly to the video!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUfuZJI9LK4
Ask yourself this; how many Chuck Norris jokes are there on the internet? Shitloads! Chuck Norris was an internet meme at one stage. Any good Bruce Lee jokes around? Can't find much, but he sure made a joke out of Chuck Norris!
Bruce Lee worked hard. He worked his fucking ass off to get to where he was, but only the martial arts kids talk about him. Chuck Norris did jack shit. He's an actor. He can fight well, but Bruce Lee fought harder. Also Bruce Lee, considering he is of Oriental descent, probably didn't have a cushy American life such as Chuck Norris did.
Be the Bruce Lee. The silent protector. The watchful guardian. The dark knight. Fuck Chad Norris, he's the reason why some men just want to watch the world burn.
>>29830277
>Nobody says it'd fix all your problems
They don't say it, they >imply it
And I'm not talking you specifically just 4chan fitness preachers in general
>>29827414
intermittent fasting and calorie restriction are unhealthy and autistic just go vegan and ride a bicycle
>>29830290
>Because whatever I do in life I will be compared to Chad.
You compare yourself to Chad, you mean. Don't you see that what you are doing right now at this second is pathetic?
>>29830276
>So now you bring more unfairness onto others, what a hero you are.
Yes who gives a shit.
>Maybe you're short for a reason and the reason is not to spread hatred like you think.
Oh boy, I smell bullshit.
>>29830277
>I tend to think you are. God decided you should be punished with a small dick for having such a shit attitude.
Lol. This is some bullshit. Just world fallacy in reality.
>>29830283
Exactly. It is pointless just like my whole life. Who gives a shit.
>>29830296
>Handsome men are often expected to be dumb
The opposite is true actually
It's called the halo effect
Good looking people are seen as better at everything and more competent
>>29830319
>shit
>shit
>bullshit
>pointless
>I smell bullshit
That's on your end not mine.
>>29830319
You just said fighting back against unfairness is pointless
You admitted it
You know it too
So just stop man
Stop festering in bitterness and do what you must to feel better about yourself. And it's not burning down Chad's house. Cause you just agreed that's pointless
>>29829697
>Also Nick, i love you, no homo
Same.
>>29829700
>I don't know. I can only assume and I think my test levels are actually little higher. But I haven't been tested. It's not fair that I got born with this advantage.
Fair or not, nobody cares. You play the game as hard as you can and you stop hating others for doing the exact same.
>>29829700
>Because he is a cuck.
A cuck is someone whose wife fucks other men. This guy plays life on hard difficulty and he's doing better than you. How dare you call him a cuck? He isn't. You cuck yourself, if anything.
>If they're not jealous and angry that some people have it better than them, then they are retards.
No, they're graceful and wise. Is there a point in staying upset about shit you can't change? No. If there is no solution, there isn't a problem, just a fact. If I thought the way you do, I'd still be a skinnyfat piece of shit with a horrible diet and gross body. Guess which I'd rather be... Right, your way of choosing actions would have led to something shittier, isn't that proof enough?
>No. Why should I? It's not fair.
Because not doing it will not make things more fair. That's the part you don't seem to understand. It's STILL "unfair", but it's actually worse for you than if you tried. Nobody else cares, and you shouldn't seek pity this hard. You are not a child anymore.
>>29829700
>Not caring when people make fun of you is pretty fucking horrible.
Is it? When you make fun of me for any number of reasons, usually completely wrong, is it horrible that I don't care? How the fuck is that horrible? What should I do? Be hurt?
>And if you speak up, they tear you up like the fucking vultures they are.
I don't believe a word of this. I think you somehow believe that life out there is just like school. The people who bullied you are adults now. Grow up. They did.
>>29829718
>Dude don't you see that he's so pathetic that every single person outside is a Chad to him?
I know. I just can't understand how he doesn't understand what he does. It upsets me to no end because if he saw, he could start moving on and improving. I just can't let it go.
I also think the reason why he keeps coming is that, perhaps, consciously or not, he expects me to help. I can't not help.
>>29830357
Yes but fighting back will make me feel a little better at least.
>>29830362
>Fair or not, nobody cares. You play the game as hard as you can and you stop hating others for doing the exact same.
Wrong. I will hate those luckier than me.
>This guy plays life on hard difficulty and he's doing better than you. How dare you call him a cuck? He isn't. You cuck yourself, if anything.
If that is the true then being alone is better than being a cuck.
>No, they're graceful and wise. Is there a point in staying upset about shit you can't change? No.
It could be changed if normies decided to not treat people like shit for things out of their control.
>Because not doing it will not make things more fair. That's the part you don't seem to understand. It's STILL "unfair", but it's actually worse for you than if you tried.
But at least I'm not supporting the injustice by honoring it.
>>29829727
>There is no reason to accept it without anger and bitterness.
I have a reason: getting mad over random events only brings negative items to your life and doesn't improve anything nor does it prevent random events from happening.
You gain nothing from getting upset about things you can't change.
>>29830404
>Yes but fighting back will make me feel a little better at least
It won't. It'll just make you tired.
>>29830404
>It could be changed if normies decided to not treat people like shit for things out of their control.
Change starts with you. Try smiling
>>29829727
>Ad populum.
once again, that is not what it means. You're the sort of moron who thinks that if the entire scientific community agrees on something, it's "ad populum". Sometimes, people agree on something for reasons that go past mere opinion, that's the part you're missing here. Please stop using these logical fallacies if you don't understand half of them.
>>29830381
>What should I do? Be hurt?
No, because I am inferior and you know it. But when superior people make fun of someone inferior (like me) there is a good reason to be hurt, because they are right. And often they will be making fun of you for things you can not change.
>I don't believe a word of this. I think you somehow believe that life out there is just like school. The people who bullied you are adults now. Grow up. They did.
You don't have to believe. For example in my job now it's exactly what is happening. Not to me though, because I asserted myself as the guy with a short fuse right off the bat.
>>29829727
>Accepting bad treatment from normies for things you can't change, that's the opposite of "weak" to you? Boy you have some weird opinions.
I don't feel weak for putting up with your bullshit and your insults. Do you feel weak for taking my insults? If you do, why do you stay?
You are not a logical person. Your behaviour is riddled with contradictions. You say you don't want to "play" if you risk being humiliated, yet you humiliate YOURSELF in this thread and don't seem to mind; you accept insults from me in almost every post I've made, and yet you claim that being insulted and "accepting" it is too much. That makes no fucking sense.
If you can take insults here, you can take them elsewhere too.
Cunt.
>>29830410
But it's the truth.
>>29830425
It does and it will. Random acts of spite towards normies make me feel better.
>>29830428
Then people treat me even worse because when I smile I look creepy.
>>29830430
> Sometimes, people agree on something for reasons that go past mere opinion, that's the part you're missing here. Please stop using these logical fallacies if you don't understand half of them.
That doesn't mean it's the truth. It could be, but it's not a definite argument.
>>29830404
If you believe in fate and predestination, that short ugly guys are meant to be cruel losers, why not fight that fate as hard as you can by being a productive, kind person?
>>29830010
Most people on /fit/ don't even fucking lift, we've had surveys that show most are under 18 and lifted less than 6 months (which was the lowest category. The reason they're still socially inept losers is they haven't done it long enough to see any change, but like to pretend they're all experts and fucking huge and aesthetic looking.
But they're all 6'3+, of course
>>29829758
All right. It won't be hard for you to see if the guy is interested solely in your body or you as a person. Trust your instincts and don't be naive. You'll know what's up.
>>29830456
>You say you don't want to "play" if you risk being humiliated, yet you humiliate YOURSELF in this thread and don't seem to mind
Yes, it's the internet. Who cares.
>you accept insults from me in almost every post I've made, and yet you claim that being insulted and "accepting" it is too much
Being insulted here won't hurt my social standing compared to real life.
>>29830461
>Then people treat me even worse because when I smile I look creepy.
Who cares what they think? Who cares how they treat you? "Caring" has brought you to where you are right now. Hell.
Believe me, you are in Hell, and it's only because you care.
>>29829773
>Superior people are less likely to give up due to all the support and perks that come with superiority.
Superiority is obtained. You train for it. You aren't born with it. It goes for most things.
You stay general because you know that any specific domain will show you're wrong. I dare you to mention a bunch.
>>29829773
>Yes. I see men who are good looking, socially dominant and overall just superior to me at everything.
You're such an insecure pussy I want to puke.
How is a man on the fucking street superior to you? In height? The fuck, I'm 1m78, and I have never felt insecure when a man was taller than me. I have thought they were freaks sometimes, but I have never felt threatened. See, if you worked on yourself, you'd not feel threatened by the simplest shit out there.
>>29830461
>Random acts of spite towards normies make me feel better
There's no reason why you can't do both things, be spiteful towards normies AND improve your own life
Burn down Chad's house AND build your own
>>29829773
>How so?
Read the fucking thread. If you don't see the humiliation you suffer in it, then I don't know how to explain it to you.
>>29829773
>>You ARE a loser.
>Yes. So?
So stop worrying about BECOMING a fucking loser, you already are one. Worry about NOT being a loser anymore.
>I will not accept unfairness. That's all.
Do you have a choice? No. Some things are the way they are and cannot change. You can't refuse, you are forced to accept them, stop acting like you get to choose to accept or refuse.
>Oh it does exactly in that way.
It doesn't. Since you're losing at this competition, and I win, guess whose opinion is more credible? Mine. Trust me, faggot, the "competition" isn't what you think, and as I told you many times: you're your worst enemy.
>>29827414
>open the calculator
>male 5'10 160lbs
HOW THE FUCK DID IT ALREADY?
WHAT KIND OF INFORMATION IS GOOGLE TAKING FROM ME?
>>29829776
>And can we define people who flip their shit around as Nick's?
I am "gifted", a misnomer, but that's why I care about shit I shouldn't care about and will do so in extended ways while being completely serious about it. My bad.
>>29830488
Why should I not care? Other peoples opinions are important if you want to live in human society.
>>29830490
No. Superiority is gained through luck and good genes.
>I dare you to mention a bunch.
Height. Looks. Penis size. Family wealth.
>>29830510
> I'm 1m78, and I have never felt insecure when a man was taller than me
I'm the same height and I constantly feel insecure. But that's mostly due to the fact that I am the shortest of my male relatives in the immediate family.
>See, if you worked on yourself, you'd not feel threatened by the simplest shit out there.
Wrong.
>>29830514
But normies will most likely try to punish me, which makes sense really. So my life will be destroyed eventually. Why bother building it, when normies will just take it later.
>>29829811
>Who gives a shit, fuck off, I'm talking to him here.
You don't get to tell me to fuck off in my own thread. You can leave whenever you want, you could have not come, too, so you don't get to act pissed off at my presence in my own thread, dumbass.
>>29830567
Maybe reflect on your life and see how far caring has gotten you so far.
>>29829855
>how much weight should I use?
Guide explains. Basically heavy enough that you can barely go beyond 5 reps. Don't go to failure, stop when you can still do 1 more rep.
>>29830544
>Read the fucking thread. If you don't see the humiliation you suffer in it, then I don't know how to explain it to you.
I don't see it.
>So stop worrying about BECOMING a fucking loser, you already are one. Worry about NOT being a loser anymore.
To not be a loser I would have to accept humiliation.
>Do you have a choice? No. Some things are the way they are and cannot change. You can't refuse, you are forced to accept them, stop acting like you get to choose to accept or refuse.
I do get the choice though.
>It doesn't. Since you're losing at this competition, and I win, guess whose opinion is more credible?
Guess what, your credibility is not determined by this. That's just ad hom.
>Trust me, faggot, the "competition" isn't what you think, and as I told you many times: you're your worst enemy.
What is the competition then?
>>29830600
Imagine if this thread was posted for the world to see with your NAME on your replies.
>>29829868
>Many people automatically treat ugly people worse. This is a fact.
What is considered ugly varies a lot from people to people, and most of it has to do with how you treat yourself, as countless makeover shows have proven.
If you gave a fuck about yourself, you'd look better. Fact.
>>29829868
>How is that comedy? Ignoring the truth that I am inferior is retarded. I know I am inferior. I don't see why I should be treated worse for it, if I didn't choose it.
Being inferior means you're treated worse. You can't accept one and not the other. In fact, your acceptance of being inferior added to the fact that you are not willing to improve, PLUS you want more respect, all of this makes it so that you have become the most pathetic cunt I know. You deserve less respect than the most inferior person on earth.
If you're OK with being inferior, then be OK with being treated worse, because that's only fair, it's justice: if you're a piece of shit, you get treated like a piece of shit: strict justice.
>>29830577
>You don't get to tell me to fuck off in my own thread.
Just did.
>>29830580
Other than having no girlfriend, I'm objectively not that bad off. But things I have would come much easier to a Chad. Having things in life doesn't mean I'm any less hateful, bitter, some people here even call me deranged. None of this shit matters if you can hide it.
>>29830567
>But normies will most likely try to punish me, which makes sense really.
Why exactly?
They might say your house is not as nice or whatever but they won't be able to destroy it
>>29829868
>Not possible. You need money to do things. And to get money you need to participate in normie society.
Bullshit. Unless you live like a hermit in the woods and hunt your own food, you participate, even if you're a leech. You're leeching off normie society, which is even worse than earning your share. What a fucking faggot you are. You think you're too good to participate, but you don't mind getting money from normies? Bravo.
>>29829899
>Any participation in society supports it.
Society supports you, get it right, or state your job.
>>29829899
>Therefore my choice isn't really the most important thing.
It's all you have now.
>>29829917
>Fairness is a moral concept
It's not, fairness is a geometrical concept: symmetry. What one isn't allowed to do, in the same context, another isn't allowed either. Simple. That's fair.
>>29830610
Then I'd get put into a mental ward VERY fast.
>>29830619
Wait, let me get this straight, Nick. Have you really used "makeover shows" in an argument? Really?
>If you gave a fuck about yourself, you'd look better. Fact.
And Chad would still look better.
>Being inferior means you're treated worse. You can't accept one and not the other.
That's exactly what I'm doing. I just don't see why should I have a hard time because of something I can't change. Why should I improve to get to the point where Chad gets born?
>>29830319
>Just world fallacy in reality.
There is no just world fallacy, it's a just world theory, and there's nothing inherently fallacious about it, no matter if it's right or wrong.
>>29830333
Halo effect applies to some characteristics, not all. We have the meathead stereotype that proves it doesn't apply here.
>>29829953
>it's not fair.
Do you realise how child-like you sound when you say this? You shouldn't say this past 12, you know?
>That's just a normie platitude.
It's the truth. I'm sure you're a sore loser.
>Some lose less due to things out of their control.
Cry about it some more and I'm sure things will change.
>Due to being born better and having better lives normies failures don't matter to them.
How retarded. Normies who end up homeless care very much about it. Normies whose families get torn apart care very much. You're a callous piece of shit.
>>29830680
No it isn't nick stop talking shit
We're talking about people and behavior here not fucking geometry
>>29830631
I mean by jailing me, etc.
>>29830635
>Bullshit. Unless you live like a hermit in the woods and hunt your own food, you participate, even if you're a leech. You're leeching off normie society, which is even worse than earning your share.
Exactly. Leeching off is great because of society treats you like shit you try to get back at it at least a little.
Also living like a hermit in the woods and being completely independent that is my biggest dream. Only thing keeping me a little sane I think. The last retreat.
>>29830656
>Society supports you, get it right, or state your job.
Do you want me to say what's my job? I'd rather not.
>It's all you have now.
And it barely matters.
>>29830697
The meathead stereotype of more about a behavior than a look
No one will call a guy a meathead just for being handsome
>>29829953
>That's not how winning is determined. Only a normie would think that. Not playing means not losing. Easy as that.
Then how is winning determined? Besides, you can call me a normie all you want: I don't care. I know you have zero definition of what it means beyond "something that suits you in an argument".
You are losing. You can't choose not to play life. You're playing if you're alive. And you're losing. Hard. You're the hardest loser ever. You're like a tennisplayer who gets owned but refuses to play, you still lose. You get owned.
You dodge the questions because you have nothing, and that's losing.
>>29829953
>It's a nice idea really, but it doesn't hold up. In reality attractive people are more succesful in everything and pretty much all that you can think of proves that you are wrong.
Untrue, and beautiful people have a host of problems you have never encountered because you're not only ugly, you have zero abilities to empathise with other people.
>Yes. Because when people shit on me, I lash out. And when I lash out, I get punished.
How are you getting punished here? You're not. You punish us with your presence, if anything.
I dare you to converse without using your little shields: Chad and Normie.
>>29830697
>and there's nothing inherently fallacious about it, no matter if it's right or wrong.
Thinking that the world is just even when it's not. That's wrong.
>>29830711
>Do you realise how child-like you sound when you say this? You shouldn't say this past 12, you know?
I do. But this is only shaming.
>It's the truth. I'm sure you're a sore loser.
Nah
>Cry about it some more and I'm sure things will change.
They never will.
>Normies who end up homeless care very much about it. Normies whose families get torn apart care very much. You're a callous piece of shit.
That's big failures you're talking here. That will matter to everyone.
>>29830726
>I mean by jailing me, etc
People can't arrest you for bettering yourself or building your own house anon. It isn't a crime.
Burning Chad's house is and being hostile to normies can be a crime though. So if you're worried about jail maybe don't do these things and just do your thing instead
>>29829976
>Halo effect doesn't magically disappear the moment you graduate.
Another excuse. You have plenty of them. You have nothing else. Your halo looks like an anus, don't be surprised it's shit and nobody wants to smell you.
>It's not fair if intelligence is out of your control.
And? It's not fair that you're such a fucking cunt. So? We all deal with it.
>So?
So stop acting like you're the real victim, SJW piece of shit.
>>29830567
>I'm the same height
I've heard you call yourself short before, what the fuck are you talking about if you're 178cm? That's slightly above average height for a white male.
>>29830007
>How is it fair to be forced to do things other people don't have to?
It's how you balance your inferiority. When a student sucks, you force him to work more until he reaches the average level. That's how you make sure he doesn't get abandoned behind.
>>29830736
>You are losing. You can't choose not to play life. You're playing if you're alive. And you're losing. Hard. You're the hardest loser ever. You're like a tennisplayer who gets owned but refuses to play, you still lose. You get owned.
I don't think that's true. You're just trying to use normie mind-games on me. Trying to make me participate. Because like all normies you know that your organism of human society wouldn't work if it didn't have people like me. The inferiors who work hard and get very little.
>>29830760
>Untrue, and beautiful people have a host of problems you have never encountered because you're not only ugly, you have zero abilities to empathise with other people.
Like what? They have it better. This is proven.
>How are you getting punished here? You're not. You punish us with your presence, if anything.
This is the internet. If I said this shit in real life, there would be consequences. There have been consequences.
>I dare you to converse without using your little shields: Chad and Normie.
How are they shields? Chad is someone who got born better than me (with better genes or richer family). Normie is a person who accepts the unfairness of life. It's that easy.
>>29830015
>I know a big part of why I'm shit is things out of my control.
Wrong. You're responsible for 99% of your life right now. You are no longer 10.
>Just today I was doing something with my cousin. He had better results even though he had less experience and worse equipment than me. And this happens very often to me.
That's because you're shit, you fucking moron. You're shit because you don't think you're responsible for being shit, so you don't train hard, ever, at anything.
>>29830683
>Then I'd get put into a mental ward VERY fast.
Kek, don't flatter yourself, no you wouldn't. You're retarded and have a warped view of the world due to your ego, but you're not mentally ill enough that any ward would think you need to be held there.
Acting like you're super mentally ill and society hates you for your views just both gives you an excuse and glamorises you.
>>29830763
>shaming
Shaming is YOUR weapon remember? You wanted to shame Chads and normies into changing their behavior.
>>29830040
>They had to work harder. That's even worse than having nothing.
Hard work, in and of itself, is a reward. When you know how to work hard, you already have an important skill. Since you don't know this, you've never worked hard in your life.
>I stopped caring about that when I realized just how fucked I'm getting for things out of my control.
Poor fucking baby, because nobody else gets this... Stop staring at your navel.
>I don't give a shit if you do. There are other people to argue with here.
That's exactly the point. The day you start caring, that's when others will care too. Nobody except extreme people will care about you when you don't care about them.
>>29830774
>Burning Chad's house is and being hostile to normies can be a crime though. So if you're worried about jail maybe don't do these things and just do your thing instead
Typical normie response.
>>29830787
Calling me an SJW doesn't prove me wrong.
>Your halo looks like an anus, don't be surprised it's shit and nobody wants to smell you.
True. It only became like that because of shitty treatment by normies.
>>29830799
Actually in my country it's under average. Slightly but still. Not to mention the average includes old men and gypsies who are shorter. So the actual average for men my age would be even taller.
>>29830802
>It's how you balance your inferiority. When a student sucks, you force him to work more until he reaches the average level.
And if average student works as hard, he will become brilliant. How is that fair?
>>29830046
>Can I get big on bodyweight exercises alone?
With difficulty, slowly, and eventually, no. Free weights, all the way.
>>29830054
>But being submissive to normies and accept the injustice is okay?
Look, you don't get not to accept. It's forced on you, so stop pretending you have a choice to save face. You're taking the injustice deep down the ass and you don't do anything about it because "it's more work and that's unfair", that's like someone trying to rape you, and you'd rather get raped than defend yourself. As if getting raped quietly was more fair... You're fucking retarded.
>>29830851
>Typical normie response
It's also true
That's how you avoid getting arrested anon
Don't fight the law and it won't win
>>29830731
>The meathead stereotype of more about a behavior than a look
People get called meatheads simply for being big all the time. If you're really fit, people assume you spend all your time in the gym and that's who you are.
>>29830763
>Thinking that the world is just even when it's not. That's wrong.
Can you even read? Go back, have a look at my post, and then think about whether going "it's wrong" was an appropriate response to what I said at all.
>>29830819
>Wrong. You're responsible for 99% of your life right now. You are no longer 10.
Wrong. I can't change my bone structure or height.
>You're shit because you don't think you're responsible for being shit, so you don't train hard, ever, at anything.
He didn't train hard either. And he's better. Significantly.
>>29830826
If you're right, then better for me.
>>29830840
Do you think they shouldn't change? Do you think it's normal that they treat people worse for things out of their control?
>>29830845
>Hard work, in and of itself, is a reward.
Not for me.
>Poor fucking baby, because nobody else gets this... Stop staring at your navel.
Everyone else is a cucked retard who just accepts it.
>>29830132
>Anecdotes don't matter.
Then neither do yours, so stop using them. Idiot.
>Why should I adjust myself because of something I couldn't change?
Because otherwise you will be inferior and treated accordingly. Suit yourself.
>Like retarded cucks. If you are being treated like shit, you shouldn't be golden to people around you.
You're misconstruing the point: they are golden to their spouse, their children, their friends. You're being a cunt to everyone, even those who try to help you.
>And yet you don't know women lie.
Not being autistic, I know when someone lies to me. Let's face it, you've never touched a woman, let alone have a deep conversation with one.
>>29830851
>Actually in my country it's under average. Slightly but still.
So you're essentially an average height male, and above average in America or other white countries. How terrible.
>Not to mention the average includes old men and gypsies who are shorter.
No, it doesn't. Gypsies aren't a group worth mentioning in any western country, there's barely any of them, and the average height hasn't changed in generations, since we have had access to heaps of nutrition easily and could grow optimally.
The whole "Kids are getting taller" thing is just wrong. Humanity has been at what's seemingly it's maximum average height for ages now.
>>29830863
>Look, you don't get not to accept. It's forced on you, so stop pretending you have a choice to save face.
Then how could I do anything else but hate myself knowing this? And hate normies who forced it on me.
>that's like someone trying to rape you, and you'd rather get raped than defend yourself
You don't even get into situation where you can be raped. So you leave society or fight the normies.
>>29830868
>Don't fight the law and it won't win
Don't fight the law and you're a cuck.
>>29830155
You're ignoring a lot of the health benefits of working out, especially as you get older.
>>29830185
>Even people I know are. Tall guys getting gfs easily with NO effort from their part.
The effort was there, but you never saw it: it's in how people work out, take care of themselves, have studied to get a job, etc. The effort is there, but it's effort you dismiss as "luck".
>>29830215
>And still you can't say that it will be the truth every time. Just like there are situations where water doesn't boil at 100 degrees.
Exactly, but the rules are the same. All you need to know is that it's POSSIBLE. But no, you want excuses.
>>29830104
I literally just did hundreds of sit ups every day
I cant be arsed to do it anymore thoughso I might lose my abs lmaotbhfam
>>29830237
>Not just rolling over and dealing with unfairness.
Horseshit. What good is this to you or anyone else? You fucking suck if that's all you can think about.
Faggot: the man who hasn't tried. Bravo.
>>29830901
>Because otherwise you will be inferior and treated accordingly. Suit yourself.
Then the only good response is to hate and fight against the people who treat me "accordingly".
>You're being a cunt to everyone, even those who try to help you.
No one is trying to help me. They all have an agenda. Even you.
>Not being autistic, I know when someone lies to me.
Everyone likes to think that. Most people can't see that.
>>29830905
>So you're essentially an average height male, and above average in America or other white countries. How terrible
Not being tall is terrible.
>No, it doesn't. Gypsies aren't a group worth mentioning in any western country, there's barely any of them
I'm not from a western country. There is estimated about 5% of them in my country. And that's just a very low estimation.
>>29830910
>Don't fight the law and you're a cuck.
So, if you're fighting the law, you're not a cuck, but if you fight personal failures you are? How does that work exactly?
You're a gold champion mental gymnast anon.
>>29830269
>My personal characteristics don't matter.
The nerve... You keep saying being short is unfair, and now it doesn't matter? Fucking faggot, yes it does.
You know why you now change your mind? Because I bet you aren't short at all, you're 175cm or something, but you'd rather give me some bullshit than a straight out lie, forcing yourself to realise what a fucking faggot you are.
I have a cardiac defect, which means I can't lift.
Game over for me.
>>29830918
>The effort was there, but you never saw it: it's in how people work out, take care of themselves, have studied to get a job, etc. The effort is there, but it's effort you dismiss as "luck".
I know that guy. I know how these two people met. She put in all the effort. So fuck you, you're wrong. I know more because I know this guy in real life and you know less because you don't.
>>29830935
>All you need to know is that it's POSSIBLE. But no, you want excuses.
And it's possible to win the lottery.
>>29830949
Nothing. But at least then I hate myself a little less knowing I didn't succumb.
>>29830910
>Don't fight the law and you're a cuck
You're a cuck regardless
At least do some cuckoldry that is beneficial to you
>>29830290
>Because whatever I do in life I will be compared to Chad.
Only by yourself. Nobody actually thinks of Chad as a real thing...
>>29830960
By fighting personal failures, you are doing what normies want you to do. By fighting the law, you're not. Easy.
>>29830968
I'm 5'10". I've already told you.
>>29830311
>And I'm not talking you specifically just 4chan fitness preachers in general
There are others besides me?
>>29830982
That's more cucked. You choose the cuckoldry that does most damage to normies.
>>29830985
They will compare you to better, more gifted men they know.
>>29830952
>Not being tall is terrible.
Fuck off, literally no-one shits on you for being average.
>I'm not from a western country. There is estimated about 5% of them in my country. And that's just a very low estimation.
I don't care what country you're from, though I feel like I remember you saying it's the czech republic or some shit.
Either way, you're average. I doubt gypsies are counted in the average height of white people in your country. You can't be average height and still act like your height is part of why you're inferior and worthless at the same time.
>>29830312
>intermittent fasting and calorie restriction are unhealthy and autistic just go vegan and ride a bicycle
IE is mostly a fad, I think, and is really efficient if you have digestive problems. Calorie restriction is the only way to lose fat, no matter how you put it. It's not unhealthy if you don't starve yourself.
>>29830319
>Lol. This is some bullshit. Just world fallacy in reality.
You dumb cunt, can't you see a joke when you face one? Do you literally think God gave you a small dick to punish your faggotry? Jesus Christ, get a grip. State dick length, too.
>>29830998
>By fighting personal failures, you are doing what normies want you to do. By fighting the law, you're not. Easy.
I thought normies all wanted you to fail? Isn't that why they all shit on you for trying?
So by increasing your risk of going to prison, you're giving them what you want.
Also, you're a petty criminal, not some badass fighting the law, don't delude yourself.
>>29831007
>There are others besides me?
There are so many. So. Many.
>>29830333
>The opposite is true actually
>It's called the halo effect
>Good looking people are seen as better at everything and more competent
Just proved the halo effect is bullshit, since both things happen. Some people will think you're more intelligent for being good-looking while others will assume you're a bimbo.
>>29831021
>Fuck off, literally no-one shits on you for being average.
Wrong.
>Either way, you're average. I doubt gypsies are counted in the average height of white people in your country.
They are. Gypsies and the half-gypsy kids all bring the average down.
>You can't be average height and still act like your height is part of why you're inferior and worthless at the same time.
I can. Not being tall is all that matters. You have to be about 6'1" to even be considered a human being.
>>29830439
>You don't have to believe. For example in my job now it's exactly what is happening. Not to me though, because I asserted myself as the guy with a short fuse right off the bat.
Proving that you don't follow any of the shit you say. You actually defended yourself and it worked. Fuck's sake, man, you're so fucking ignorant of what's right in front of you.
>>29831013
But like I said you're not damaging the normies at all
You're at best inconveniencing them for a short period of time, but they will bounce back, because they're normies. It's pointless. So at least do the cuckoldry that gets SOME lasting result, which is bettering yourself
>>29831037
>You dumb cunt, can't you see a joke when you face one? Do you literally think God gave you a small dick to punish your faggotry? Jesus Christ, get a grip. State dick length, too.
5.5"/5" which is under average.
>>29831051
Normies want me to participate in society because due to my inferiority I will never succeed and just fill the shitty low-level positions. They know this and they also know they need someone to be the garbage man etc.
>>29830484
>Yes, it's the internet. Who cares.
Why should it matter more out there?
>Being insulted here won't hurt my social standing compared to real life.
How could this be since you have no friends and no woman?
>>29831079
No it just means I'm getting fired pretty soon. No one wants angry guy in their work collective.
>>29831085
There is a way to really damage them though. Permanently.
>>29831097
>Why should it matter more out there?
Because it hurts my social standing.
>How could this be since you have no friends and no woman?
How is that related? You keep flaunting how you have a woman. It's funny how you won't admit you just got lucky.
>>29831110
>There is a way to really damage them though. Permanently.
You're talking about the beta uprising aren't you anon.
>>29831069
>Wrong.
If they did, by definition, you would be a normie for having this done to you, as it would happen to most people.
>They are. Gypsies and the half-gypsy kids all bring the average down.
Sure they do, keep deluding yourself anon. Anything to be a bigger victim, right?
>Not being tall is all that matters. You have to be about 6'1" to even be considered a human being.
You're now saying that most of the population are mocked and ridiculed for their height, and in fact not considered human. Do you not see the issue there, how ridiculous that is?
>>29831093
>Normies want me to participate in society because due to my inferiority I will never succeed and just fill the shitty low-level positions. They know this and they also know they need someone to be the garbage man etc.
You've now swapped from "Normies ridicule me and hate me, they want me to stay shit because they do this, they're all against me" to "They want me to succeed". Good job.
>>29831110
>There is a way to really damage them though. Permanently.
You sound hella cool and edgy anon, I can almost hear the Linkin park from here.
>>29831136
M-Maybe.
>>29831138
>If they did, by definition, you would be a normie for having this done to you, as it would happen to most people.
So first you say it doesn't happen and then you say it only happens to normies?
>Sure they do, keep deluding yourself anon. Anything to be a bigger victim, right?
Gypsies are shorter on average. A fact.
>You're now saying that most of the population are mocked and ridiculed for their height, and in fact not considered human. Do you not see the issue there, how ridiculous that is?
It's the truth. Talk to women about it.
>>29829299
You're so convinced there's some mythical Chad who is out to humiliate you. If you give it a go then you will soon find out that all those 'chads' are actually going to encourage you and cheer you on, or, feel nothing about you. The only people that sincerely harass others for trying are robots.
Humiliation is all in your head, you are only as humiliated as far as you let yourself be.
>>29831159
Being at the lowest rung in society is success to you? It sure isn't to me.
>>29830567
>Why should I not care? Other peoples opinions are important if you want to live in human society.
Then why don't you care that everyone thinks you're shit?
>>29830567
>No. Superiority is gained through luck and good genes.
You hide in abstractions. Let's be precise: state some domains in which superiority is luck and genes. Go ahead.
>>29830567
>Height. Looks. Penis size. Family wealth.
That's all? Looks are only half genetics, and arguably even less, see makeover shows. Penis size is ridiculous. If you can't find a girl who will love you despite a small dick, I pity you.
>>29830600
>I do get the choice though.
You don't. You don't get to accept or refuse having a small dick, being short, etc. Your entire mind is based on this, you just try to save face by pretending you have a choice to somehow refuse these things. You don't.
>>29831202
>Then why don't you care that everyone thinks you're shit?
I do care.
>You hide in abstractions. Let's be precise: state some domains in which superiority is luck and genes. Go ahead.
Due to halo effect pretty much everything.
>Looks are only half genetics, and arguably even less, see makeover shows.
You and your makeover shows.
>Penis size is ridiculous. If you can't find a girl who will love you despite a small dick, I pity you.
This is very funny.
>>29831164
>So first you say it doesn't happen and then you say it only happens to normies?
Did you miss the "If" at the start of that? Reading comprehension anon.
>Gypsies are shorter on average. A fact.
And if this was the case, as they're an ethnically different group from the natives of whichever country you're in (or the main group I mean), then they'd be counted separately.
>It's the truth. Talk to women about it.
That explains why most people have happy lives, wives and kids and good careers, doesn't it? Because women hate them and think they're subhuman.
>>29831214
I can refuse society which will humiliate me for them.
>>29830600
>Guess what, your credibility is not determined by this. That's just ad hom.
Yes, it is. A fisherman who has actually fished for decades is more credible than you who has never fished. It's that simple.
>What is the competition then?
I've explained this to you at length, I'm not doing it again. The more you type, the more I get the impression that all you really want is attention, like a little girl, which is who you are, deep down.
>it's not fair
>pay attention to me
>pity me
>>29830630
>Just did.
You don't get to do it without looking stupid. Try understanding things beyond the surface, here and in general.
>>29830630
>Other than having no girlfriend, I'm objectively not that bad off.
Then why are you trying to convince everyone that you have it so bad?
>>29830269
Then what have you been bitching about?
>>29830683
>Wait, let me get this straight, Nick. Have you really used "makeover shows" in an argument? Really?
Yes. Makeover shows prove that even ugly people can look far better with the right treatment. You're a superficial moron. Logic really isn't your friend...
>>29831223
>And if this was the case, as they're an ethnically different group from the natives of whichever country you're in (or the main group I mean), then they'd be counted separately.
That doesn't happen.
>That explains why most people have happy lives, wives and kids and good careers, doesn't it? Because women hate them and think they're subhuman.
Where I live about 65% of marriages end up with a divorce and about a third of college-aged women admit to doing shooting porn or being a hooker. It's not as bright as it seems.
>>29830683
>That's exactly what I'm doing.
So, not accepting your small dick makes your dick not small anymore?
Reality =/= your wishes
>>29831215
>Due to halo effect pretty much everything.
You don't even know what the halo effect is, yet you keep swinging it around. I've explained to you in past threads why this isn't an excuse, and how the halo effect exclusively refers to before you meet someone, as in what you think they might be like based on a photo. Yet you're just pretending this never happened.
>>29831266
>That doesn't happen.
In any study it does.
>Where I live about 65% of marriages end up with a divorce and about a third of college-aged women admit to doing shooting porn or being a hooker. It's not as bright as it seems.
You can't just go "Yeah but where I Live it's different" whenever anyone points out your bullshit. If you hate your country and it's legitimately as shit as you're implying, fucking move, there's no reason you need to stick around there.
>>29831229
>Yes, it is. A fisherman who has actually fished for decades is more credible than you who has never fished. It's that simple.
Low credibility doesn't disprove you.
Yes I want to bring attention to the unfairness that you and other normies don't care about.
>>29831248
>Then why are you trying to convince everyone that you have it so bad?
Because I would have MUCH more if I was a Chad and put in the effort I put in. When I was still putting in effort I was dumb and bitter. Now I'm just using the momentum I gained back then.
>>29831264
Makeup and things you can change don't matter. When you have average girl with great clothes and makeup is she better than naturally great looking girl with no makeup? She isn't. And everyone can see that.
>>29830726
>Exactly. Leeching off is great because of society treats you like shit you try to get back at it at least a little.
You're being helped and financed by others. You're not getting back at anyone, you're just being a leech. You have no pride.
>Also living like a hermit in the woods and being completely independent that is my biggest dream. Only thing keeping me a little sane I think. The last retreat.
But you don't do it.
>Do you want me to say what's my job? I'd rather not.
You just said you were supported by society. Make up your mind.
>>29830763
>I do. But this is only shaming.
You ought to be ashamed, though. Shame is the great civiliser. Through shame, we evolved. Only little kids feel no shame.
>>29830763
>They never will.
That's the point, so stop crying about it: it's useless.
>>29831275
I accept that I have a small dick. I don't accept that women should preffer men with bigger dicks because I didn't choose to have a small dick.
>>29831290
>and how the halo effect exclusively refers to before you meet someone, as in what you think they might be like based on a photo. Yet you're just pretending this never happened.
You explained but provided no sources. That's almost nothing.
Actually fuck you, I got bored of you. You didn't disprove shit. I'm still right.
>>29831298
What unfairness? That you don't try and then don't get anywhere?
>>29831307
>You're being helped and financed by others. You're not getting back at anyone, you're just being a leech. You have no pride.
Leeching from normies who treat me like shit for things out of my control makes me happy.
>But you don't do it.
True. That's why I have a job. You need money for this shit obviously.
>You ought to be ashamed, though. Shame is the great civiliser. Through shame, we evolved. Only little kids feel no shame.
What should I be ashamed of? Not wanting to accept injustice?
>That's the point, so stop crying about it: it's useless.
FUCK YOU AND EVERY OTHER NORMIE CUNT.
>>29830810
>I don't think that's true. You're just trying to use normie mind-games on me. Trying to make me participate. Because like all normies you know that your organism of human society wouldn't work if it didn't have people like me. The inferiors who work hard and get very little.
You don't work, you benefit from the system, you said so before. And don't accuse me of mindgames when you use buzzwords like an SJW faggot.
>>29830810
>Like what? They have it better. This is proven.
I know beautiful people who had it much worse than you ever had because of their beauty. Ranging from constant rape attempts from family members, to acid attacks. No one will ever want to take your beauty away from you, because you have none (I don't believe it, though, but I'm going by your words).
>>29831330
>You explained but provided no sources. That's almost nothing.
I linked you to like four sources actually, and you threw a tantrum about how I was trying to trick you into reading them because it was just too much information, then tried to play me off as intellectually dishonest for providing sources for my claim.
>Actually fuck you, I got bored of you. You didn't disprove shit. I'm still right.
Kek, you didn't get bored of me, you kept sperging out at me until I just realised you were just going to keep refusing to actually read my citations and claiming the moral high ground for no reason, and left the thread.
In this case, you're objectively not right anon.
Started boxing 3 months ago and it's helped me more than just lifting/cardio routines ever did. It took my desire to not be a fat shit and focused it into an easy to perceive goal. Become a better fighter. It's helped a fuck ton with confidence and making other tasks seem trivial after you've done some serious sparring and realize getting hit in the face isn't that big of a deal. I'd recommend it to anyone who has tried lifting/cardio and couldn't stick with it.
>>29831345
That if I try I will have worse results than someone who got gifted.
>>29831349
You are a normie, my friend
>>29830810
>How are they shields? Chad is someone who got born better than me (with better genes or richer family). Normie is a person who accepts the unfairness of life. It's that easy.
You are someone else's Chad, then. This concept is useless and ridiculous.
A normie isn't that, you fucktard. A normie is a neurotypical person, not that you know the first thing about various neurologies.
You deserve to be beaten up. You really do.
>>29831356
>I linked you to like four sources actually, and you threw a tantrum about how I was trying to trick you into reading them because it was just too much information, then tried to play me off as intellectually dishonest for providing sources for my claim.
As I said before. If I left to read them the debate would end. Drowning the opposition in text doesn't mean you win.
I don't give a shit what you say about me not being right.
Life is unfair. If I try I will have worse results. Many things are out of my control. Therefore hard work is retarded. That's the truth.
>>29831368
So?
You will have better results than if you never tried.
>>29831383
>You are someone else's Chad
I'm a Chad to very few people. Not even worth mentioning.
>You deserve to be beaten up. You really do.
I'd like to see someone try. I'm prepared for that.
>>29830887
>. I can't change my bone structure or height.
Name ten things your bone structure prevented you from reaching.
>>29831390
>As I said before. If I left to read them the debate would end. Drowning the opposition in text doesn't mean you win.
Kek, you're fucking pathetic mate. There is literally no way to make someone providing sources for their claim into a bad thing without looking like a retard.
>I don't give a shit what you say about me not being right.
Evidently, just stop using terms that don't mean what you think they do.
>Life is unfair. If I try I will have worse results. Many things are out of my control. Therefore hard work is retarded. That's the truth.
That doesn't logically follow at all.
>>29831399
It's still not fair. That's my point.
>>29831427
Okay, define what would be fair then.
>>29830887
>Everyone else is a cucked retard who just accepts it.
How do you not accept any of the things you claim to refuse? If they still exist, you haven't refused them. Think about it.
>>29830910
>You don't even get into situation where you can be raped. So you leave society or fight the normies.
You don't get to choose your situation. A child whose parents want to rape him or her has no choice. You can't just leave society unless you want a hermit life, and even people who claim to want this don't actually do it (you, faggot).
>>29831404
Useless anecdotes. Many thins in your life are easier if you have good looks. That's the point.
>>29831426
>Kek, you're fucking pathetic mate. There is literally no way to make someone providing sources for their claim into a bad thing without looking like a retard.
I don't give a shit. It's a shitton of text meant to shut me down. Fuck that and fuck you.
>>29830952
>No one is trying to help me. They all have an agenda. Even you.
What do I have to gain by helping you? I tried hard, as much as I could, but you refuse to let go of your false beliefs. You refuse to see your own bullshit.
And now you claim to believe I was trying to help you for some ulterior motives? Like what? If you had followed my advice and gotten better, then what do I get beyond the satisfaction that I helped you?
You're fucking retarded.
>>29830952
>Not being tall is terrible.
I bet you're 170cm or so, probably taller. You're mentally ill if you think you're shorter. You sack of shit.
>>29831440
If people weren't treated differently based on things they can not change.
>>29831452
>How do you not accept any of the things you claim to refuse? If they still exist, you haven't refused them. Think about it.
Because unlike you I don't just say "hurr dats just how it is" and worked hard for scraps of what Chad gets.
>You don't get to choose your situation. A child whose parents want to rape him or her has no choice.
Exactly. Just proves that hard work is useless. And if people shit on you for things out of your control, then you take revenge.
>>29831455
>I don't give a shit. It's a shitton of text meant to shut me down. Fuck that and fuck you.
>spergs out about anecdotes
>spergs out about proper empirical evidence
Why are you even posting? You claim it's to find out other peoples opinions, but then no matter what they say or what proof they provide for it, you shit on them and pretend you're still right.
Go away and live in misery if that's all you want, stop forcing your bullshit onto others that don't want it. This was a great thread before you turned up you absolute piece of shit.
>>29831483
>What do I have to gain by helping you?
Support of the sycophants ITT.
>I bet you're 170cm or so, probably taller. You're mentally ill if you think you're shorter. You sack of shit.
I'm 5'10".
>>29830975
>Nothing. But at least then I hate myself a little less knowing I didn't succumb.
You did. You gave up. You don't fight. You take it all like a bitch. Don't you see this?
Anyone can do anything to you and you'll take it all.
>>29831496
You sound mad. Pretty mad.
>>29831013
>hey will compare you to better, more gifted men they know.
How come this never happened to me? No woman I was ever with compared me to others or even dumped me for others? I guess not being a whiny little bitch helped a lot.
>>29831486
Who has shat on you for things out of your control?
>>29831093
>5.5"/5" which is under average.
Why don't you use the metric system? Aren't you European?
>>29831518
Yeah they didn't tell you.
Honestly there isn't a reason to keep talking here. It's simple.
Life is unfair. I will have to work harder because of things out of my control. And for this I will hate everyone.
It's that simple. It's how it's gonna be. Your arguments aren't convincing me.
>>29831110
>No it just means I'm getting fired pretty soon. No one wants angry guy in their work collective.
I can tell that your attitude is reason enough to get fired. I'd never hire you for anything with this attitude, and I'd fire you as soon as I see how shit your attitude is. Don't blame it on "normies", cuck. It's all your damn fault.
>>29831121
>Because it hurts my social standing.
Which is what? You're a friendless asshole whom no woman wants and who's getting fired for having a shit attitude. What is there to damage?
>>29831486
So because hard work can't fix every possible thing, it's worthless?
>>29831521
Everyone. My classmates, my "friends", my teacher, my employers, all the women I've met. You name it.
>>29831529
When on 4chan I use feet and inches.
>>29831516
You're damn right I'm mad, because you're not contributing at all. You're fucking up a thread because you yourself are a piece of shit, and stopping others from improving.
There is no reason for you to be here, you've been BTFO multiple times in this thread alone, let alone in every other thread you shit up, then you just act like it never happened in the next thread. I really, really wish you'd get banned so we could have a couple decent threads where people can improve or discuss things without you ruining it for everyone.
>>29831121
>How is that related? You keep flaunting how you have a woman. It's funny how you won't admit you just got lucky.
You think getting a woman is a matter of luck. That's why you don't get any. At least a cuck gets to fuck his wife, you don't even get that, you're worse than a cuck.
>>29831548
>I can tell that your attitude is reason enough to get fired. I'd never hire you for anything with this attitude, and I'd fire you as soon as I see how shit your attitude is. Don't blame it on "normies", cuck. It's all your damn fault.
My attitude makes sense to me. And you have no argument. Just insults and blackmail. You pretty much tell me to ignore the truth otherwise normies will make my life shit.
>Which is what? You're a friendless asshole whom no woman wants and who's getting fired for having a shit attitude. What is there to damage?
It can always get worse.
>>29831549
Yes. Why should I work hard to fix problems that I didn't choose to have?
>>29831215
>I do care.
If you cared, you'd change your ways.
>>29831215
>Due to halo effect pretty much everything.
I said, state some domains, I didn't say "more abstraction".
>>29831215
>This is very funny.
Is it? Every woman I've been with would have stayed with me even if I lost my cock. Whatever you do to women, you're doing it wrong. Are you only interested in shallow sluts or something?
>>29831559
So get me banned or stfu.
>>29831567
It mostly is. Well you can work hard to compensate but you will always get uglier and shittier women compared to a Chad who works as hard.
>>29831228
>I can refuse society which will humiliate me for them.
That's called being a hermit and you're not doing it.
>>29831600
If I was a mod, I would. But I'm not, so we can just hope one of them does ban you.
>>29831589
>If you cared, you'd change your ways.
I care more about justice. It's not just that I have to work hard because of things out of my control.
>I said, state some domains, I didn't say "more abstraction".
Job hunting.
Dating.
Social skills.
>Is it? Every woman I've been with would have stayed with me even if I lost my cock. Whatever you do to women, you're doing it wrong. Are you only interested in shallow sluts or something?
That's a pretty strong statement. It's funny that you really believe it.
>>29831298
>Low credibility doesn't disprove you.
Low credibility is less credible than higher credibility. Why do I have to explain basics to your autistic ass...
>Yes I want to bring attention to the unfairness that you and other normies don't care about.
Everyone understands life isn't built around being fair, you're the only moron who got stuck there and refuses to move on.
Take a fucking bullet, or make an effort.
>Makeup and things you can change don't matter.
Looking good or looking bad make a difference, you said, so don't change your mind, again, now.
>When you have average girl with great clothes and makeup is she better than naturally great looking girl with no makeup? She isn't.
She is. You are really ignorant of women.
>>29831608
Yes because I need some money to do it.
>>29831612
Yeah keep hoping.
>>29831649
>Everyone understands life isn't built around being fair, you're the only moron who got stuck there and refuses to move on.
Yes, that's how it's gonna be. I refuse to move on.
You want me to take a bullet? Well I hate normies, so think again.
>>29831538
You're just getting angry over things you haven't even tried.
You keep coming back to unfairness, like that's some great reason to avoid doing something. Things are unfair, but so what? They have always been unfair, people have still had success despite that.
You're afraid of someone making fun of you. These people are rare, and definitely nobody you should care about. For every one dickhead, there's going to be a dozen people, like the people in this thread, who want to see you improve.
You know you can do it. I know you can do it. Whatever you might say, the fact that you responded so many times means you still have hope.
>>29831330
>I don't accept that women should preffer men with bigger dicks because I didn't choose to have a small dick.
For one, they don't, for two, your not accepting anything doesn't change the thing you don't accept. That's fucking stupid. That's like staring at a wall saying you don't accept that this wall exists, expecting what?
>>29831349
>Leeching from normies who treat me like shit for things out of my control makes me happy.
And that's why no woman wants you. You're a leech, financially, mentally, and I'll bet you're also a physical leech, i.e. some kind of child molester. Your mental instability suggests there's something very wrong at your core. I wouldn't be surprised this is it. Your childish behaviour matches pedos' childish behaviour to a T. You act like a kid, you talk like a kid, you probably want to fuck kids too.
>>29831671
>You're just getting angry over things you haven't even tried.
I used to lift. I used to work hard. It just made me more miserable to keep failing.
>Things are unfair, but so what? They have always been unfair, people have still had success despite that.
Inferior people had less success.
>For every one dickhead, there's going to be a dozen people, like the people in this thread, who want to see you improve.
Don't think so.
>You know you can do it. I know you can do it. Whatever you might say, the fact that you responded so many times means you still have hope.
Yeah I still have hope, I'd kinda like to lose it already. Hopefully I'll get there.
>>29831349
>True. That's why I have a job. You need money for this shit obviously.
You don't. You need balls, though. Hermits live in the woods, they fish, eat berries, and etc. They don't need anyone.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/apr/11/american-hermit-caught-27-years
This one also stole, but you won't mind that because you are immoral and don't care about anyone else but yourself, pedo.
>>29831689
>Your mental instability suggests there's something very wrong at your core.
You said earlier that I am not insane enough to be put into a mental ward. So which is it?
Also why should I not leech? Normies treat me worse for things out of my control. It's natural to get revenge. Any way you can.
>>29831349
>FUCK YOU AND EVERY OTHER NORMIE CUNT.
reminder that when he says "normie", he really means "non-pedophile". I found you out, scumbag.
You're also getting fired from your job because you couldn't let the cheese pizza alone, right?
>>29831356
This is the same thing he did with me about philosophy, actually. When he realised he couldn't argue anymore and couldn't prove himself, and that he in fact didn't understand what I was explaining (on friendly terms), he just quit.
>>29831736
You can call me a pedo how many times you want. But you're not responding to my points.
>>29831390
Please take a bullet.
>>29831402
>I'm a Chad to very few people. Not even worth mentioning.
You forgot millions of Chinese and Indians who work to support your lifestyle of being a leech. Faggot.
>>29831402
>I'd like to see someone try. I'm prepared for that.
It's happened before, hasn't it. You're not prepared for anything.
>>29831703
Well then, why not apply this same reasoning to your hatred of 'normies'? There's surely someone out there who can hate normies easier than you can.
That's unfair, that someone could hate normies more optimally than you can.
>>29831770
>You forgot millions of Chinese and Indians who work to support your lifestyle of being a leech. Faggot.
They don't even live in the same country.
>It's happened before, hasn't it. You're not prepared for anything.
I wasn't. Now I am.
>>29831455
>Useless anecdotes. Many thins in your life are easier if you have good looks. That's the point.
Dodging like a bitch, again. You hide in abstractions, you never get to specifics because you know that's where your fallacies break.
You can't name anything that your "bone structure" made a different with. You're a fucking faggot.
>>29827414
If i sont over eat how am I supposed to drown out the feelings of heing a retarded autistic (legally) and no one liking me and wishing i was dead and knowing im forced to live off of whafever the goverment thinks i should get which will never be enogub and ill mever be normal enough for a real job and i lakc the courage to jill my aelf and and and reeeeeeeee
>>29831486
>Exactly. Just proves that hard work is useless.
Hard work is what makes me different from you, so it's worth it.
>>29831736
>This is the same thing he did with me about philosophy, actually. When he realised he couldn't argue anymore and couldn't prove himself, and that he in fact didn't understand what I was explaining (on friendly terms), he just quit.
I think it's just his go to strategy for when he can't refute something really, imply that you're somehow the bad guy for bringing up a point he doesn't really get.
>>29831502
>Support of the sycophants ITT.
How do you imagine that support? Besides, you must not know what a sycophant is, because sycophants don't support anything, dumbass.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/sycophant?s=t
In truth, you are much less intelligent than you think. Possibly, that's what bothers you so much. Your intellectual inferiority, and you must protect yourself from that fact as hard as you can. This is obvious from how you "argue" with people.
>>29831538
>Yeah they didn't tell you.
Sure they did, it just so happens that if someone has a hotter ass than I have, it's not actually a threat, because I'm more than just a sexy ass, you know? That's why no one is a threat to me out there, even if they are objectively hotter, more handsome, and even richer. I don't care: they aren't me. You can't be this way because you know you're shit.
>>29831538
>It's that simple. It's how it's gonna be. Your arguments aren't convincing me.
Why don't you kill yourself? Serious question, I want to see your answer.
>>29831832
Even if that was true. So what? Being angry that I am inferior makes a lot of sense.
>>29831555
>Everyone. My classmates, my "friends", my teacher, my employers, all the women I've met. You name it.
What are the odds that you behaved to them the way you behave to everyone else? You act like everyone's magically some asshole to you for no reason, but you did that to me and others here, and we were only trying to help, so what are the odds that YOU are the dickbag who mistreated them first and only got what you deserved second?
>>29831873
How does it make sense?
>>29831869
>You can't be this way because you know you're shit.
Yes, I got born inferior.
>Why don't you kill yourself? Serious question, I want to see your answer.
Killing myself would help normies. Leeching off is better.
>>29827414
le shit post
>>29831579
>My attitude makes sense to me.
If it does, then your intellectual skills are low. Because your shit makes no fucking sense whatsoever.
>>29831579
>nd you have no argument. Just insults and blackmail.
I'm not arguing with you, I'm telling you what you are and what you do. Don't you notice the difference between an argument and a statement?
Blackmail? Where did I blackmail you?
>You pretty much tell me to ignore the truth otherwise normies will make my life shit.
Are you insane or retarded? I'm telling you to take a bullet to save everyone's time, yours included.
>>29831579
>Yes. Why should I work hard to fix problems that I didn't choose to have?
As opposed to the problems I chose to have. Right.
IQ: 54. Take a bullet.
>>29831600
You're wrong. Being a good person and working hard at things is how I got my women. They saw I was a good person, that I tried to help around, and did so efficiently, and they liked me for it. You have no reason to assume these ladies JUST HAD to be ugly...
>>29831579
Why shouldn't you work hard to fix problems you didn't choose to have?
What's so bad about fixing problems?
What's so bad about working hard?
>>29831921
>Blackmail? Where did I blackmail you?
Normies in general blackmail. Blackmail you into accepting that life is unfair.
>>29831897
My life is worse due to things out of my control.
>>29831951
Everyone has to deal with things that are out of their control.
Everyone can do something within their control to make their life better.
>>29831637
>I care more about justice.
Facade. You care about yourself only, justice, you don't care if it is not about you. Don't fool yourself, you deluded freak.
You don't mind injustice when it favours you, but you choose to ignore that not to break your system of thinking.
>>29831637
Job hunting has nothing to do with genetics. You get a job primarily because of what you studied and your experience, and then because of your attitude. Yours would make you lose a job at McDonald's.
Same with social skills. You are shit at it because you're a fucking cunt and an idiot. You are apparently incapable of considering other opinions. You're a narcissitic egomaniac who always blames others. You're literally a psychotic person.
>>29831939
>IQ: 54. Take a bullet.
Nah.
>You're wrong. Being a good person and working hard at things is how I got my women. They saw I was a good person, that I tried to help around, and did so efficiently, and they liked me for it.
Your world is so simple.
>>29831945
>Why shouldn't you work hard to fix problems you didn't choose to have?
Because if I didn't choose them, If I didn't cause them, then they are not for me to fix.
>What's so bad about working hard?
Working hard and getting worse results because of things out of my control is bad.
>>29831637
>That's a pretty strong statement. It's funny that you really believe it.
And it's 100% true. I believe it because it's true. It's funny that you can't believe it. Should I pull out cases where wives stayed with their husbands despite far worse mutilations or should I just say ANECDOTE right away? Don't you understand that it doesn't fucking matter? If it's true, it's true, anecdotal or not. You're an imbecile.
>>29831982
What results are worse for you for things out of your control?
>>29831652
>Yes because I need some money to do it.
You don't need any money. Animals do it and they need no money.
>>29831669
>You want me to take a bullet? Well I hate normies, so think again.
Uh? Kill yourself, just fucking do it.
>>29831975
And that makes them cucks.
>>29831977
>Facade. You care about yourself only, justice, you don't care if it is not about you. Don't fool yourself, you deluded freak.
So what?
>You don't mind injustice when it favours you, but you choose to ignore that not to break your system of thinking.
Wrong. But even if it was the truth, that's exactly what normies are doing. Only in their case it's considered acceptable because they are superior to me.
>Job hunting has nothing to do with genetics. You get a job primarily because of what you studied and your experience, and then because of your attitude.
Sure. Intelligence doesn't come into it AT ALL. Family (nepotism) doesn't either. Sure.
>You're a narcissitic egomaniac who always blames others. You're literally a psychotic person.
You said it yourself that I am not insane. Now you're turning around?
>>29831725
>You said earlier that I am not insane enough to be put into a mental ward. So which is it?
Go back there, realise I never said that. You fucking idiot. Do it, go back.
>>29831765
>>29831765
>You can call me a pedo how many times you want. But you're not responding to my points.
There are no points. Plus, doing so, and I have done this a LOT with you, is useless.
If you don't like something, you'll pull out a "logical fallacy" of your choice, even though it doesn't even work, and consider yourself right anyway. You don't understand the simplest thing. You are stupid beyond belief.
>>29831783
>They don't even live in the same country.
And? Your imbecility shows more and more.
>>29831783
>I wasn't. Now I am.
You're still not. Even I could beat your shit up instantly. You have no strength since you don't train.
>>29831997
>I believe it because it's true.
Kek.
>Should I pull out cases where wives stayed with their husbands despite far worse mutilations or should I just say ANECDOTE right away?
You should just say anecdote because that's what it is.
>If it's true, it's true, anecdotal or not. You're an imbecile.
You must be mentally chalenged. Bringing out few cases where something happened doesn't make up for all the other cases. Just like finding an albino zebra doesn't prove all zebras are albinos.
>>29832013
Pretty much everything. Dating, jobs, confidence, everything.
>>29832014
>You don't need any money. Animals do it and they need no money.
Animals are used to it you fucking retard. Animals also don't live in a country with rather high population density.
>Uh? Kill yourself, just fucking do it.
Or maybe it's those who want me to accept injustice that deserve to be killed.
>>29832021
Well, I guess you've won. You get the great prize of sitting around being angry at normies. I'm sure that will show them.
I'm still not sure why you think other people doing better than you somehow affects you, but whatever.
>>29831873
>Even if that was true. So what? Being angry that I am inferior makes a lot of sense.
Does it? Why does it make you angry that you're a piece of shit? Nobody forced you to behave the way you did ITT, for instance. Nobody. It was your choice, whether you recognise the fact or not.
The good news is that you'll have the life you deserve, either way. Never forget that: it's your responsibility.
>>29832045
>but you're not mentally ill enough that any ward would think you need to be held there.
That's exactly what you said. Mentally ill and insane are pretty similar things in meaning.
>>29832064
>And? Your imbecility shows more and more.
Losing our temper, are we?
>You're still not. Even I could beat your shit up instantly. You have no strength since you don't train.
Boy, you really aren't thinking out of the box if you think that fighting and combat only happens by your fists.
>>29831899
>Yes, I got born inferior.
Then accept your place, cuck. You have no reason not to if you accept the truth of your being inferior. Inferior people deserve inferior lives.
>>29831725
Can you not read? I said you aren't insane enough to be put in a ward, not him.
And I also said you clearly have issues, just not ones bad enough to be in a mental ward, you're not severely psychotic or dangerous or anything, you're an angry retard on the internet with a victim complex.
>>29832098
>Does it? Why does it make you angry that you're a piece of shit?
You try to act like I'm a piece of shit only through things I can change. Like if I just became a saint normie with great attitude this minute, I would stop being a piece of shit. But that's not true. I'd still be inferior. Just now I would be happy deluded inferior retard.
>The good news is that you'll have the life you deserve, either way. Never forget that: it's your responsibility.
You keep repeating it. Still haven't prove shit.
>>29831951
>Normies in general blackmail. Blackmail you into accepting that life is unfair.
No, no, you're not getting away with it. Here's what you wrote:
>And you have no argument. Just insults and blackmail.
Unless you're mentally retarded, you were talking about me. So, once again, where is my blackmail? Either admit you fucked up, or that you're mentally retarded, or that you just lied, but don't tell me that you were being "general" for no reason, all of a sudden, you scumbag.
>>29831951
>Blackmail you into accepting that life is unfair.
You don't know the definition of blackmailing, as usual, you never know what the words you use mean, because you only care about the meaning you THINK they have. This, too, shows your intellectual limitations. The reason why you don't get anything is because you aren't as smart as you think. And you know it, which is why you get upset and leave when you can't make sense of your own bullshit anymore.
>>29832113
>Then accept your place, cuck. You have no reason not to if you accept the truth of your being inferior. Inferior people deserve inferior lives.
Even if I got born inferior and couldn't change? I deserve inferior life for things out of my control? Is that what you're saying? How are you normies surprised that mass shootings happen.
>>29832118
Right. I forget who I'm talking to sometimes. If it's Nick the cuck or the guy who seems to recognize me always wants me to get banned because he doesn't agree with me.
>>29831982
>Your world is so simple.
Nothing as simple as deciding everyone is a "normie" of your own definition and that "Chad" will always be luckier than you even if he doesn't exist. Nothing easier than blaming everyone else for your own life.
>>29832138
Normies will often say things like "Well you're not getting a girlfriend with THIS attitude" which is essentially blackmail. It means "accept injustice or you're not getting any".
>The reason why you don't get anything is because you aren't as smart as you think. And you know it, which is why you get upset and leave when you can't make sense of your own bullshit anymore.
So say I am actually dumb like you're saying. One more thing I can not change that will make my life worse.
>>29832159
Kek, I don't want you banned because I disagree with you, I want you banned because you ruin every thread you touch. Plenty of people manage to disagree with me without pissing off a whole threads worth of people, this is just an issue you have, in every thread you touch, because you're fucking cancer.
You should shell out for a trip honestly.
Should I track calories burned on my calorie tracker? It adds to my net available calories, so
a) will I hurt my muscle growth by not eating 2100 calories a day to meet my 1600 goal when I burn 500 a day or
b) am I slowing my process significantly by eating 2100 calories and tracking 500 burnt calories and netting 1600
>>29832172
Nothing easier than ignoring the injustice that happens every day.
>>29832021
>So what?
So don't act like you care about justice if you don't, you fucking retard.
I now believe, truly, that you are mentally limited. This is becoming more and more obvious. You're just a bit dumb, is all.
>Intelligence doesn't come into it AT ALL
The fact that you got a job, for some time, shows that intelligence isn't all that important.
>>29832021
>You said it yourself that I am not insane. Now you're turning around?
I never did. Again, you're using something someone else said as if I said it. You are probably more stupid than insane, but you definitely talk like a psychotic person: paranoia, made up concepts, adapted definitions, never feels wrong, wants to spite others, etc.
I think you're stupid, mostly.
>>29832186
If you burn 500 a day, absolutely, that's about how big a bulk or cut should be, plus or minus 500 calories from your TDEE.
Unless what you're doing is just weights stuff, always factor in any exercise, because knowing what that number actually is is really important.
>>29832065
>You should just say anecdote because that's what it is.
It makes no difference. It being true is all that counts. Everything is an anecdote, you imbecile, but in this case, it doesn't matter. I'm not using an event to prove a grand theory, I'm using the event to prove the event itself. If someone broke your car, you can't say that stating this to prove that someone broke your car is just "anecdotal evidence".
This is how I know you are very limited intellectually. You don't understand much.
Educate yourself, read what anecdotal evidence really is.
>some people are immune to AIDS
>therefore nobody can get AIDS!
That's anecdotal evidence that doesn't prove the norm, but not everything works that way, and you can't say that all the infected people are anecdotal evidence either.
You are so, so fucking dumb.
>>29832204
>So don't act like you care about justice if you don't, you fucking retard.
I care if I'm the target.
>The fact that you got a job, for some time, hows that intelligence isn't all that important.
You can insult me all you want, but you still haven't disproven the injustice.
>I never did. Again, you're using something someone else said as if I said it.
Yeah I didn't notice.
>but you definitely talk like a psychotic person: paranoia, made up concepts, adapted definitions, never feels wrong, wants to spite others, etc.
So just tell me why I'm wrong and why life isn't unfair and I'll be on my way.
>>29832245
It seems that you are the dumb one.
Just because some women stay with disfigured men doesn't mean that every wife will stay with disfigured husband. Or even that it happens often. It happened a few times. That's all we can say.
>>29832065
>You must be mentally chalenged. Bringing out few cases where something happened doesn't make up for all the other cases.
Which doesn't matter, since I was talking about my case only. Idiot. The fact that one thing can happen PROVES that it can happen at all. Understand that, shitforbrains.
>>29832065
>Pretty much everything. Dating, jobs, confidence, everything.
You keep showing us why you have no social life. It's because you're an idiot and a cunt.
>>29832065
>Animals are used to it you fucking retard.
Then get used to it too, idiot.
>>29832065
>Animals also don't live in a country with rather high population density.
Neither do hermits and they live just fine. The guy I linked you to spent almost 30 years alone in the woods. You're just too pussy to act.
>>29832065
>Or maybe it's those who want me to accept injustice that deserve to be killed.
Who cares, just kill yourself.
>>29832254
>I care if I'm the target.
So then it's nothing to do with justice, just your personal gain. If you were better off, it would be fair, but if someone else was, it's unfair.
>So just tell me why I'm wrong and why life isn't unfair and I'll be on my way.
See the whole thread, and also the last bunch of threads you shat up, people have done this multiple times and you just went "No it doesn't count" or threw a tantrum about how they were the bad person for arguing at a higher level than you until they left the thread.
Really, please get a trip.
>>29832106
>That's exactly what you said. Mentally ill and insane are pretty similar things in meaning.
It wasn't me, you abysmal idiot. Look at the fucking post you quote... You're talking to several people at once, you absolute imbecile.
>>29832106
>Losing our temper, are we?
Because I notice that you're becoming more and more idiotic as you get tired? How's that about me losing my temper? See, even in this post alone, you show how dumb you get. You are really dumb.
>Boy, you really aren't thinking out of the box if you think that fighting and combat only happens by your fists.
What made you think I thought that? No reason, again. You don't make sense. Whether I use my fists or a baseball bat, you don't stand a chance.
>>29832286
>Which doesn't matter, since I was talking about my case only. Idiot. The fact that one thing can happen PROVES that it can happen at all. Understand that, shitforbrains.
It can happen. So? How likely is it?
>Then get used to it too, idiot.
I will.
>Neither do hermits and they live just fine. The guy I linked you to spent almost 30 years alone in the woods. You're just too pussy to act.
Yeah exactly I need to move and that's why I need money you fucking retard.
>Who cares, just kill yourself.
I do.
>>29832137
>You try to act like I'm a piece of shit only through things I can change. Like if I just became a saint normie with great attitude this minute, I would stop being a piece of shit. But that's not true. I'd still be inferior. Just now I would be happy deluded inferior retard.
If you stopped acting like a piece of shit, you'd effectively stop being one.
That's what it means to be a piece of shit: to behave as such. No one is a piece of shit by just breathing.
>>29832137
>You keep repeating it. Still haven't prove shit.
I don't need to prove anything to you. You choose not to see, either because you're too idiotic to see the obvious or because you're psychotic and can't take responsibility for anything. You'd probably have a mental breakdown if you realised how much of your shit life is your own fault, even though you also claim your life is OK, whichever madness you decide to have for the time being.
What's to prove? You talk like a crazy Christian, replacing sinners by normies, and demons by Chads. You're fucking pathetic.
>>29832330
That's what I realized just now. You seem pretty mad though.
>See, even in this post alone, you show how dumb you get. You are really dumb.
But you still didn't disprove my central point about injustice. Which is still here.
>Whether I use my fists or a baseball bat, you don't stand a chance.
And for some reason you seem to be limited to melee.
>>29832376
>If you stopped acting like a piece of shit, you'd effectively stop being one.
But I would still be inferior. I would still be short and ugly, etc.
>That's what it means to be a piece of shit: to behave as such. No one is a piece of shit by just breathing.
That's what it means to you. To me being a piece of shit is even through things out of my control. Like I said above.
>You choose not to see
What do I choose not to see? Does the injustice not exist?
>>29832159
>Even if I got born inferior and couldn't change?
Absolutely. Ducks are born ducks, and I eat them as ducks. They couldn't change, I don't give a fuck.
>>29832159
>I deserve inferior life for things out of my control?
Yes, just like the duck. If you're stuck with being inferior, then be inferior, but live the inferior live without whining.
>How are you normies surprised that mass shootings happen.
Unlike you, I'm a certified non-normie. What you do isn't very abnormal. Acting like an idiot, being unable to understand other points of view, all of this is very normie, actually. What you dislike about normies, you do yourself. You claim to dislike their injustice, yet you don't care to do injustice to others to ease yourself. You're a normie, actually. You're just using this website to feel better about yourself because you think Chads don't come here. You're pathetic.
>>29832159
>Right. I forget who I'm talking to sometimes. If it's Nick the cuck or the guy who seems to recognize me always wants me to get banned because he doesn't agree with me.
You can't just admit that you're retarded and you can't see straight...
You're not hard to recognise you. I always know who you are because you stand out amongst robots (which makes you a normie, realise that).
>doesn't agree with me
You don't agree with logic, facts, and definitions, either.
>>29832180
>Normies will often say things like "Well you're not getting a girlfriend with THIS attitude" which is essentially blackmail.
It's not, you absolute fucking uneducated moron.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/blackmail?s=t
Read and learn. Calm down your fevered ego, you are not very smart and you don't know much.
>>29832180
>So say I am actually dumb like you're saying. One more thing I can not change that will make my life worse.
Indeed, so learn your place, join the rest of the idiots and stop whining.
We're all tired of your bullshit. Just like the SJW and the rest, your whining and protests will never accomplish anything.
>>29832413
>Absolutely. Ducks are born ducks, and I eat them as ducks. They couldn't change, I don't give a fuck.
But that's not true. People are shit if they are short, ugly, dumb, small dicked, like me. Having a good attitude doesn't change that.
>Yes, just like the duck. If you're stuck with being inferior, then be inferior, but live the inferior live without whining.
But a big part of my inferiority could be changed if normies stopped treating me poorly because of it. Then I get why they want me to stop whining.
>>29832436
>I always know who you are because you stand out amongst robots (which makes you a normie, realise that).
Interesting. I am still inferior though so whatever you say about me being a normie doesn't matter.
>You don't agree with logic, facts, and definitions, either.
It's easy. Just disprove that the world is unfair.
>>29832186
>Should I track calories burned on my calorie tracker?
This is hard to do.
As for the rest, if you have any reserves of fat, don't worry about not eating enough. As long as reserves exist, you'll be fine.
>>29832199
>Nothing easier than ignoring the injustice that happens every day.
As opposed to doing what you do about it, which is? Whining like a baby. Impressive.
I fight injustices with my job. I teach kids who got a bad deal and I teach them better because I'm a great teacher. I could have taught in a university or a public school and I would have made 4 times the money I make there. I chose that "injustice" to counter another injustice. What have you done? Nothing. It's all about yourself. You're a selfish idiot, you're a cunt. Take a bullet.
>>29832458
Blackmail also gets used in the more general sense even without payment. You should know that since you are so non-autisstic.
>>29832472
>We're all tired of your bullshit. Just like the SJW and the rest, your whining and protests will never accomplish anything.
So you want me to just accept this injustice. And you're surprised I'm angry?
>>29832510
>As opposed to doing what you do about it, which is? Whining like a baby. Impressive.
Or taking revenge on the people who treat you unjust.
>I fight injustices with my job. I teach kids who got a bad deal and I teach them better because I'm a great teacher.
What are you teaching them though? To work hard I guess. Which is retarded as has been already established.
>>29832512
We want you to shut the fuck up, mostly, accept your injustices or don't, but realise that it's not our fucking problem, and we're not going to ever agree with you, nor is anyone here, as demonstrated by the fact you get blown out in every thread you do this in.
Rage against the machine all you want, but do it quietly, in the safety of your room.
>>29832254
>I care if I'm the target.
That's all you care about, yourself. That's why nobody wants you in any way.
>>29832254
>You can insult me all you want, but you still haven't disproven the injustice.
The injustice of what? Do you think the world is a Minecraft server with mean rules that need to be changed? You're not doing shit to change anything. And nobody can change the things you whine about.
>>29832254
>Yeah I didn't notice.
Not the only thing you don't notice, trust me.
>>29832254
>So just tell me why I'm wrong and why life isn't unfair and I'll be on my way.
I've done that before. Your concepts of fair and unfair exist only in your head. They aren't real things. Your knowledge isn't complete or perfect. Moreover, whether a thing is fair or unfair doesn't make a difference to the situation. What can make a difference is how you act. You act in a way that won't change anything. Don't whine about things you make no efforts to change, don't claim to want justice when all you want is benefits for yourself.
Is it fair that other people work so you can live? No, but you don't care. Scum.
>>29832283
>Just because some women stay with disfigured men doesn't mean that every wife will stay with disfigured husband.
That never was my premise. It just shows that it's possible. You're a moron if you don't understand this simple point.
You can't see what people see because you're so drowned in your own bullshit way of thinking. Clear the air, reduce that ego of yours.
>>29832342
>It can happen. So? How likely is it?
Don't move the goalposts. I meant to prove it could happen. Period. It can, we both agree, that's all.
It's very unlikely to happen to you. You make vaginas dry on sight and your attitude makes everyone avoid you.
>>29832342
>Yeah exactly I need to move and that's why I need money you fucking retard.
The hermit I linked you too didn't need money. You don't need money. You could sell your belongings and have some, anyway.
You're just a pussy. Plus, being an idiot, you'd not survive in the woods. Too dumb to live. You can only survive because the "normies" feed you. Let that sink in.
>>29832565
And this precisely is the reason why I'm hateful angry. You people just want to accept inferiority and shut the fuck up about it.
>>29832570
>And nobody can change the things you whine about.
And how could I ever accept this?
>Your concepts of fair and unfair exist only in your head. They aren't real things.
So people never get treated differently for things out of your control?
>>29832378
>That's what I realized just now. You seem pretty mad though.
Just because you misunderstand a lot of things doesn't mean you get to take attention away by suggesting I'm "mad".
>u mad tho
You're fucking sad, at this point.
>>29832378
>And for some reason you seem to be limited to melee.
It's a reason you wouldn't understand: justice and honor. I wouldn't just shoot you in your stupid head, I'd give you a chance you don't deserve.
>>29832626
>You people just want to accept inferiority and shut the fuck up about it.
No, we want you to shut the fuck up about it, the only person accepting inferiority here is you, everyone else is trying to improve.
>>29832589
Well I think it's not very likely. I actually it's very unlikely, but I can't prove it.
>You could sell your belongings and have some, anyway.
I have pretty much nothing.
>You're just a pussy. Plus, being an idiot, you'd not survive in the woods. Too dumb to live. You can only survive because the "normies" feed you. Let that sink in.
If I die, so be it.
>>29832406
>But I would still be inferior. I would still be short and ugly, etc.
You didn't get enough pity? I'm glad you're short and ugly. Of all the people I know, I'm glad you are inferior. Too bad you aren't, you're just lying.
>>29832406
>That's what it means to you. To me being a piece of shit is even through things out of my control. Like I said above.
Nobody is a piece of shit through things they don't control, you fucking, fucking idiot.
>>29832641
>It's a reason you wouldn't understand: justice and honor. I wouldn't just shoot you in your stupid head, I'd give you a chance you don't deserve.
Well if you attacked me I would shoot you. It's not about honor. It's about survival.
Make a new thread ffs
>>29832406
>What do I choose not to see? Does the injustice not exist?
Your flaws, your flawed logic, etc.
Stop calling it injustice, that's not what it is, it's just "things I'd like another way", because it's completely self-centered on your part.
You don't donate to any charity, you don't care about real injustices. You only care about yourself. Society has correctly identified you as a nuisance, and you are.
>>29832483
>People are shit if they are short, ugly, dumb, small dicked, like me.
No, they're shit if they behave like you.
>Having a good attitude doesn't change that.
Attitude is everything here. Don't try to dodge that.
>>29832652
We've been over this. Improving means you accept it. You accept that it happened. You accepted that you were inferior.
>>29832661
>Too bad you aren't, you're just lying.
Says the one who hasn't even seen a picture of me. I know ugliness.
>Nobody is a piece of shit through things they don't control, you fucking, fucking idiot.
Then why are people treated worse for these things? It's the most logical conclusion.
>>29832698
>We've been over this. Improving means you accept it. You accept that it happened. You accepted that you were inferior
And going "yeah I'm inferior and always will be" somehow isn't? There's nothing wrong with admitting you have a problem, we all do.
>>29832678
>Your flaws, your flawed logic, etc.
What would that be?
You get born inferior in things you can't change.
You try to be good when you're young.
Through years of bad treatment due to things out of your control you become angry and bitter.
And now you say everything is my fault?
>>29832689
>Attitude is everything here. Don't try to dodge that.
I disagree.
>>29832483
>But a big part of my inferiority could be changed if normies stopped treating me poorly because of it.
No. You're on a board filled with non-normies and they treat you nicely and what do you do? You act like a piece of shit to everyone. You have no excuses anymore. Normies aren't to blame because even non-normies get treated the same by YOU. YOU are the problem.
>>29832483
>Interesting. I am still inferior though so whatever you say about me being a normie doesn't matter.
You are a normie, you should learn to live with your lot.
>>29832483
>It's easy. Just disprove that the world is unfair.
I just did by showing you that "fairness" is only a concept in your mind. It doesn't real. Get it?
It's a concept for the weak who try to appeal to a higher authority to change things for them. You're much like a Christian: you can't change things yourself and aren't willing to try, so you just tell others they're mean and Daddy will punish them some day for it. It's just more pathetic because unlike Christians, you have nothing to back your claim to morality and punishment.
Things just happen. There's no right and wrong outside of your dumbass head. The proof is that what you find unfair is found to be fair by others, and vice versa.
>>29832717
>And going "yeah I'm inferior and always will be" somehow isn't? There's nothing wrong with admitting you have a problem, we all do.
I didn't choose to have that problem.
>>29832698
Holy fuck! Stop, just fucking stop. If you are responding to this OBVIOUS shitposter either you are retarded or looking for a mental challenge on your personal philosophy. Stop responding to this fuccboi and let's get back to s3lf improvement
>>29832733
>No. You're on a board filled with non-normies and they treat you nicely and what do you do?
Only because it's anonymous and they can't see me.
>You have no excuses anymore. Normies aren't to blame because even non-normies get treated the same by YOU. YOU are the problem.
Exactly. Everyone is to blame. Even robots, You are all the enemy.
>I just did by showing you that "fairness" is only a concept in your mind. It doesn't real. Get it?
So you think people should have worse lives due to things out of their control?
>>29832512
>Blackmail also gets used in the more general sense even without payment.
In which the "payment" becomes something else of similar function, which is not what you were doing. Making you feel embarrassed isn't comparable to being blackmailed.
You're victimising yourself, like a self-made martyr.
You're the feminist of pansies.
>>29832512
>So you want me to just accept this injustice. And you're surprised I'm angry?
if accepting it means you go away and take a bullet, yes, please. Be angry, kill yourself. You're a waste either way. I drop you like a cold turd. I gave you a chance, a second chance, I'm still here, but nothing changes with you.
I've learned my lesson. Make a choice: give it a try or kill yourself.
>>29827414
>weigh yourself every morning
This is actually not recommended and most people who are attempting to lose weight should weigh themselves around two-three times a week maximum.
>>29827563
Stop sitting around so much. People with desk jobs that sit all day or waste a lot of time at the computer accumulate more fat around the waist. There used to be a term for it called Secretary's Butt.
>>29832741
No-one chooses to have any problem, yet we all have problems. You having a problem that others don't have doesn't make life unfair, as others have problems you don't have also. Therefore, it follows that life is in fact fair.
>>29832759
Did you quote the wrong person?
>>29832540
>Or taking revenge on the people who treat you unjust.
And you end up in prison. Great revenge. The best revenge is living your life as if they never existed, and living a good life.
>>29832540
>What are you teaching them though? To work hard I guess. Which is retarded as has been already established.
Not everyone gets to be fed by the good will of their neighbours. My kids can't afford to be on welfare, they have to fight for themselves.
Enjoy your free meals.
Not everyone is as lucky as you, Chad. Some kids don't even have parents or anyone to care for them. If they don't work hard in school, they won't reach their dreams. I help them do that.
One of them is about to become a doctor. He did this through hard work. He'll be able to help others. You know, others.
There's justice in this: you don't care about others, so nobody cares about you.
>>29832785
You could have just said
>No, I can't disprove what you said
Instead of all of that text.
>>29832802
>You having a problem that others don't have doesn't make life unfair, as others have problems you don't have also. Therefore, it follows that life is in fact fair.
That's bullshit. And you know it. Superior attractive people have less problems.
>>29832807
>The best revenge is living your life as if they never existed, and living a good life.
That's another retarded normie platitude. How is it revenge if your good life supports the normie society?
>>29832626
>And this precisely is the reason why I'm hateful angry.
But nobody cares. Not anymore. Do you understand? You could die alone raging, nobody cares anymore.
>>29832626
>You people just want to accept inferiority and shut the fuck up about it
Improving ourselves is the opposite of accepting inferiority. Accepting inferiority is what YOU do by not improving. You stay shit, you accept it.
>>29832626
>And how could I ever accept this?
You don't get to choose. You either fight against it, or you don't, and if you don't, you accept it by default.
>>29832626
>So people never get treated differently for things out of your control?
Nobody has treated you badly for having a small dick because nobody has ever seen it, you fucking faggot.
>>29832802
No. Assuming you are the same anon I replied to: fuck of, m8
>>29832835
>There's justice in this: you don't care about others, so nobody cares about you.
Cause and effect. I only started being like this after being treated like shit.
>>29832882
>That's bullshit. And you know it. Superior attractive people have less problems.
Says who? Do you know them well enough to say this? Perhaps they view being judged on their looks above all else as a problem, whereas a less attractive person is judged on their character.
>>29832653
>Well I think it's not very likely. I actually it's very unlikely, but I can't prove it.
What would you know about this? You think all women are whores and sluts, that's your premise, based on nothing but anger. You don't know actual women. Believe what you want but don't be surprised when women reject you because you think this shit of them.
>>29832885
I'm not, that's why I asked if you quoted the wrong person, you quoted the shitposter and then called other people shitposters.
>>29832669
>Well if you attacked me I would shoot you. It's not about honor. It's about survival.
Before being about survival, it'd be about honor, but that concept is alien to you. Don't worry, I don't beat up people who are obviously inferior to me. I have honor.
The worst I can do to you is stop caring.
>>29832883
>But nobody cares. Not anymore. Do you understand? You could die alone raging, nobody cares anymore.
Just makes me hate them more.
>Improving ourselves is the opposite of accepting inferiority. Accepting inferiority is what YOU do by not improving. You stay shit, you accept it.
That's wrong and I've already told you why.
>You don't get to choose. You either fight against it, or you don't, and if you don't, you accept it by default.
By supporting normie society consisting of people who will treat you poorly for things out of your control you are not fighting back. And if you improve, you inevitably give more to society.
>Nobody has treated you badly for having a small dick because nobody has ever seen it, you fucking faggot.
I've been treated badly for being short and ugly.
>>29832698
>We've been over this. Improving means you accept it.
But that's wrong, you fucking retard.
>be bad at maths
>decide to take extra classes
>get good at maths
This is supposed to be "accepting being bad at maths"? How DUMB are you?
Facing your inferiority is the first step in improving. In that sense, it's not "accepting", it's facing reality. You need to do a whole lot of facing facts. Then you improve.
This sort of twisted thinking shows you're mentally imbalanced.
i know this thread is about dead but i have one question
why bring this self improvement shit here? if we wanted it we'd go to /fit/
no one asked you to make this thread and "help". seriously what the fuck is wrong with you
>>29832899
Says halo effect, says all the statistics. Says pretty much everything.
>>29832901
>Believe what you want but don't be surprised when women reject you because you think this shit of them.
It's still the truth.
>>29832927
With normies it's always about survival. People who just want me to work hard for scraps of what Chad gets and suffer in silence for things I couldn't change. With these people, you always just try to survive.
>>29832698
>Says the one who hasn't even seen a picture of me. I know ugliness.
>choosing face instead of height, obviously
Fag. You said you were short, you're about my height and I'm not short.
>>29832698
>Then why are people treated worse for these things? It's the most logical conclusion.
Nobody is, you self-victimising piece of fuck.
>>29832726
>What would that be?
I point it out in every post, just fucking open your eyes.
>>29832726
>I disagree.
I don't care. Your attitude is why everyone here wants you to literally die. Don't tell me it doesn't matter when it literally makes people want to kill you, you fucking idiot.
>>29832784
>Only because it's anonymous and they can't see me.
Makes no difference, just makes your case even worse. You're even more of a piece of shit for abusing the situation, showing that you only act nice because of calculations. You deserve being treated like shit. And it's not "normies", it's everyone. None of us is a normie, we all think you're a fucking moron.
>>29832956
>This is supposed to be "accepting being bad at maths"? How DUMB are you?
Okay now different scenario
>be good at maths
>take extra math classes
>get great at maths
You just shat on the guy who worked hard to become good. Assuming great > good obviously.
>In that sense, it's not "accepting", it's facing reality.
You can call it however you want.
>>29832784
>Exactly. Everyone is to blame. Even robots, You are all the enemy.
It's just you. You are your enemy. You just share it with everyone else, but you're the only enemy, the only competition. I've explained this in details before, but you're deaf and blind to the truth.
>>29832784
>So you think people should have worse lives due to things out of their control?
It's not about "should", it's about "yes, they will, because shit happens."
Is it fair that I should deal with you for hours even though your behaviour is out of my control? No. Do I whine about it? No. Be responsible.
>>29832985
>Fag. You said you were short, you're about my height and I'm not short.
Keep telling yourself that.
>Nobody is, you self-victimising piece of fuck.
But they are. Dumb people have much harder time. Ugly people are by default treated worse. They ARE.
>I don't care. Your attitude is why everyone here wants you to literally die. Don't tell me it doesn't matter when it literally makes people want to kill you, you fucking idiot.
Who gives a shit.
>>29832983
>Says halo effect
Holy shit. You're back to the same fucking point, despite it having been debunked already. You just proved that me saying you just argue something, throw a tantrum when you can't anymore, and then pretend you never had it mentioned before.
>Says pretty much everything.
Says your personal bias that attractive people must be great. You're projecting your own opinions onto everyone else in the form of the halo effect here.
But I'm done talking to you, the thread's at bump limit already and there's no point.
>>29832985
Just stop replying to him mate, he's not going to change his mind or stop talking unless we do, and the thread's already dead, so there's no point. Just hope some mod realises what a chronic shitposter he is and bans him is all we can do really.
>>29833018
>Is it fair that I should deal with you for hours even though your behaviour is out of my control? No. Do I whine about it? No. Be responsible.
You don't have to. You're free to leave at any point. But for some reason you don't. Probably because you know there is some things you just can't disprove.
>>29833031
>Holy shit. You're back to the same fucking point, despite it having been debunked already.
How exactly did you debunk halo effect?
>Says your personal bias that attractive people must be great. You're projecting your own opinions onto everyone else in the form of the halo effec
Just like whole society does.
>>29832797
>This is actually not recommended and most people who are attempting to lose weight should weigh themselves around two-three times a week maximum.
Weighing daily shows you how greatly it can vary for little reason. Doing so less often may make you think you're not doing well when you are.
>>29832882
You could have just killed yourself.
>>29832882
>That's bullshit. And you know it. Superior attractive people have less problems.
Since you're not one of them, you don't know. You just don't know. Admit it. How could you know? You can't.
Attractive people have problems too, even problems you'll never have.
>>29832882
>That's another retarded normie platitude.
Buzzword alert. Stop resorting to bullshit to make your case and you may sound credible.
>normie platitude
Blame the patriarchy, asshole.
>>29833061
>Since you're not one of them, you don't know. You just don't know. Admit it. How could you know? You can't.
Studies that measure quality of life. Earnings. Stability of marriages.
>>29832925
Same fag is OROGINAL same fag
>>29832895
>Cause and effect. I only started being like this after being treated like shit.
Then you're a tool. If all you can do is behave like a domino, then you deserve being treated like a domino.
>>29832950
>Just makes me hate them more.
Nobody cares. They don't care and you don't matter. So?
>>29832950
>That's wrong and I've already told you why.
You made no sense. I've shown you.
>>29832950
>By supporting normie society consisting of people who will treat you poorly for things
how paranoid are you? See a therapist, really. You suffer from paranoia.
>>29832950
>And if you improve, you inevitably give more to society.
So what, you'd rather NOT make 10'000 a month because 10% go to the state? How fucking idiotic can you get?
>>29832950
>I've been treated badly for being short and ugly.
So you say. More like you were a shithead and people made you pay for it by attacking the obvious weaknesses you had, i.e. feeling insecure about your body.
>>29832957
>why bring this self improvement shit here? if we wanted it we'd go to /fit/
Precisely not. Besides, /fit/ is a homosexual board for homos. It's mostly about humor, memes, and hot males.
>>29832957
>no one asked you to make this thread and "help". seriously what the fuck is wrong with you
So? Nobody asked you to be a cunt either and yet you're still doing it, right? Fuck off already.
>>29833006
That makes no sense. All you're showing is that "work = improvement". So what if someone is better originally? What the fuck? What are you gonna do about it?
You're hopeless and understand nothing about evolution.
>>29833098
>So what, you'd rather NOT make 10'000 a month because 10% go to the state? How fucking idiotic can you get?
How is that idiotic? It's money that goes towards normies.
>So you say. More like you were a shithead and people made you pay for it by attacking the obvious weaknesses you had, i.e. feeling insecure about your body.
I wasn't like that when I was 11.
>>29833024
>Keep telling yourself that.
But I am not short, you massive moron. Nobody ever thought I was short, nor did I.
>>29833024
>Dumb people have much harder time.
You should know.
If you accept that you're dumb, LISTEN to smarter people.
Your way doesn't pay off, so try something else.>>29833024
>Who gives a shit.
You, because you've been here for hours now.
>>29833126
It means that for same work someone else gets better results. It's not fair.
>>29833039
>You don't have to. You're free to leave at any point.
THAT'S THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT OF MY POST YOU ABYSMAL MORON.
Unlike you, I take responsibility for my choices and I don't blame others for it. Holy fuck, I actually hesitated to spell it out but I thought you'd goddam get it... Fucking hell... You are so fucking THICK.
>>29833143
>You, because you've been here for hours now.
So have you. I'm actually a little bored now. I'll be leaving now. Good luck, my dear cuck.
>>29833060
>How exactly did you debunk halo effect?
Amongst other things, we showed that the same parameter could be interpreted both ways; he also explained that the halo effect is mostly about first impressions, not long lasting relationships. Basically, you're full of shit, drop it.
>>29833133
Fucking A this bait is strong. Goddamn, man. 8/10 effort.
If not, kys
>>29833074
Does it ever occur to you that attractive people DID something to be and stay attractive? And that those things also cause other good things?
No? Really?
Someone who's fit will be healthy and good looking too, that's not luck, that's results due to work. Such people also work better and are more ambitious because they get confident. You do none of this shit, you don't even try, so of course, no results.
>>29833133
>How is that idiotic? It's money that goes towards normies.
It's 9000 that go to you, also. You'd rather have nothing so "normies" don't get anything. You're fucking retarded. "Normies" means nothing to you, either, beyond "not me". You're fucking stupid in every way. You should be terminated.
>>29833133
>I wasn't like that when I was 11.
Blame others. See how that works.
>>29831672
>For one, they don't
i can't stop laughing
>>29833147
>It's not fair.
If "normies" didn't feed you, you'd die. You couldn't say "it's not fair" if "normies" didn't help you.
That's not fair. Getting food for nothing, how is THAT fair from you?
You admitted abusing them. Millions of people who never did anything to you. How is THIS fair?
>>29833186
It's not bait, he does the same shit in heaps of threads, and spends hours getting angry at people who disagree with him. Seriously, anytime you see someone going into longwinded rants about how unfair life is here, it's this one guy posting it over and over again.
>eating healthy
>lifting every second day
>getting a good nights sleep
>still want to end it
Th-thanks for the advice.
>>29833160
>Good luck, my dear cuck.
I don't need luck, I have hard work, my dear loser.
>>29833221
He's right, what do you think you're going to reach up there with a super long dick? There's no hidden pleasure zone, and that anterior fornix image is just bait made up by some retard here, it's not real. You're just going to hit the cervix.
I'm going for a walk. I suggest we baptise this faggot.
I suggest we call him the Cucklord, because he really likes that cuck word.
See you around, cucklord.
>>29833253
Kek, I like that idea anon. I really wish he'd adopt a trip, he could be an interesting part of /r9k/ history if he had one with that name, instead of just an anonymous shitposter.
Threadly reminder steroids are the only way to go and you're a retard if you aren't on the juice. Nasties look like shit despite autistically counting macros, meal timing, loading, deloading, volume, etc.. Just eat as much as you can, lift, and let tren do the hard part. There are no downsides if you're smart enough to do some basic research.
>>29833279
I like this idea also. Who cares about my name, when my points stand.
>>29833112
you're no better than the people you insult, you're a hateful person that's likely getting off on arguing with people you consider yourself better than.
i wouldn't go to a self improvement board and post about how life isn't worth living and how we should kill ourselves. they'd get mad and rightfully so. so why is it ok when you come here and do the reverse? if you really cared you'd only focus on the people here that WANT to be helped, not make 300 posts arguing in circles with one guy.
you can't push your experiences on another. self improvement is not a guarantee in improving your quality of life, it may have worked for you, but for others it only reaffirmed to them that their life is hopeless.
>>29833343
Just stop, cuck lord. It's annoying as fuck and really is just awful shitposting, even by r9k or s4s standards
>>29833398
I'm not shitposting. I really believe pretty much anything I've said ITT. Only a retard accepts unfairness.
>>29833244
It's not just the act of sex that having a bigger penis benefits from. There are lots of social benefits too, as well as the confidence one gains from it.
>>29833398
I'm not cucklord, that was my first post in this thread. Learn to fucking write board tames though, retardlord. You're the type who shouldn't do steroids. You need at least an IQ of 60 to safely do them.
>>29833230
That's because you're a low test faggot. You didn't think diet, sleep, and training would change anything, did you? You're putting the cart before the horse. Start 250mg/week of testosterone and then see about lifting.
>>29833439
What social benefits exactly? People talk about a big dick being a positive, but I don't think having one really changes anything about your life, except for if you derive confidence from it. But a big dick isn't the only thing to get confidence from, so it's not vital.
>>29833536
Please don't listen to this guy, steroid use is not a good idea for those with depression. To the anon who says it wasn't working, keep at it, but if you continue to see no improvement at all (make sure you're doing cardio as well), go and talk to someone about it, because it's not guaranteed to fix you. Like 70% chance it will, but that means it doesn't fix 3 in 10.
>>29833536
>low test
Probably. Don't even feel like jerking off anymore. Life's a big meme.
>>29827414
>http://www.calculator.net/calorie-calculator.html
I've never counted to a precise number, but I know I eat around 2000-2400 a day. This thing's saying I need to eat almost 2800 just to maintain my weight, and over 3k to gain, even though I'm starting to get flabby.
Is my metabolism broken or is this thing shit
>>29833716
Try counting how much you eat for a day, record how much you eat, and then look up the calorie content of them afterwards, I think you'd be surprised how much you eat.
I have the opposite issue, always think I've eaten like 3000 calories, but end up barely hitting 2000 if I don't count calories through the day.
>>29833743
I know, I did that for a couple days a while back and got 2000 plus or minus 400. Granted I could just be eating a lot more than I was back then, but damn.
3000? I guess you lift. What's your routine look like?
>>29833561
Ignore this asshole, he wants to see you suffer. You can easily check who is right, either get blood work done to prove or disprove me, an $80 hormone panel, or continue doing what doesn't work and then some months later be told you just haven't done in long/hard/right enough and just be yourself. Testosterone is the best antidepressant. It turned my life around. I was going through the exact same shit.
>>29833587
Low libido is another telltale sign. I doubly suggest you get your levels checked. I started by literally googling how to steroids and went from there. 250mg is a very low dose for bodybuilding or a very high dose for testosterone replacement. If you love it then blast and cruise, you could easily hit 250+lbs. If not just stick to the cruise dose and keep aromatase inhibitor on hand in case you're susceptible. Most guys won't need it at that dose but it is a learning period of trial and error to just how you respond. It's so worth the minimum of effort required though. It's easier than finding an ssri and dose that would work for you at least.
>>29833797
Keep doing it, trust me, I did the same, had a couple days where I was thinking about it and ate enough, but then I'd continue to lose weight, and it was just because I wasn't eating anywhere near enough. It's really eay to measure, use myfitnesspal if you can.
>3000? I guess you lift. What's your routine look like?
Nothing fancy, just doing SL plus some accessory stuff, though I'm on break to rehab from an injury at the moment, so my routine is mostly "raise legs this way, move back that way".
>>29833917
>You can easily check who is right, either get blood work done to prove or disprove me, an $80 hormone panel, or continue doing what doesn't work and then some months later be told you just haven't done in long/hard/right enough and just be yourself. Testosterone is the best antidepressant. It turned my life around. I was going through the exact same shit.
No-one's going to believe you when you're telling a depressed person their low libido is because of low test, and especially when depression is a known side effect of many steroids.
