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>Run very powerful magnet over your hard drive
>There is a more than 0% chance that the 1's and 0's will arrange themselves to give you a free next-gen vidya that no one has ever played before

Who here /freesoftwarefrommagnets/?
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Elaborate for retards like me
>>29645321
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>>29645954
It's library of babel for your computer
You could even end up with some super high tech OS that can do crazy shit
But it's astronomically unlikely
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>>29645954

OP is sarcastic, but if you randomly arrange binary (Like with a magnet, as of stated) there is technically a chance that you will get actual programs.
The chance is radically low though, that's why OP is sarcastic.
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>>29645321
There's a higher chance you get struck by a meteor
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Magnets don't randomize the data do they?
They would just get all the positive charges in one side and shit
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>>29645321
absolute madman
fuck why didnt i think of that before
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>>29645954
Monkeys on typewriters logic. They say that given enough time, a monkey on a typewriter, randomly mashing keys, will eventually write the works of Shakespeare. But the odds are extremely low. 0.000000000000003% is more than 0%, like OP said.
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>>29645986
Library of babel exists though https://libraryofbabel.info/
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>>29645321

A list of things that are more likely to happen:

>A new ice age
>The sun going super-nova early
>Trump getting hit by 3 comets
>moot coming back
>OP stops being a faggot
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>>29646011
Is this how the universe, all matter and life forms were created? Shit just tried to fit together enough times that eventually one out of a googleplex times it got something right and shit just kind of exponentially progressed from there?
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>>29645321
>ITT trash math
.0000.......01 = 0 therefore there is a 0 percent chance of it happening
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>swipe magnet across my hard drive
>my door immediately gets knocked down, Feds rush into the room
>you're under arrest anon for possession of child pornography
>all I wanted was cool vidya
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>>29646123
>rounding numbers
>not trash

Get a load of this guy
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>>29646139
>he's never heard of the proof .99999999.....9 = 1 proof
stop posting anytime
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>>29646117

Yup.
The universe is completely random, things just over time changed.
1 shot out of 3 trillion google tries actually made something.
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"There exists a set of finite actions that, if I performed them in the correct order, would make me a millionaire in a day. I just don't know what they are."

"Even more annoying is those instructions are written in the library of Babel, even mentioning you by name. You just have to find it."
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>>29646099
>OP stops being a faggot
>higher chance of this happening that a next-gen vidya due to magnets
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>>29646011
But like what if the universe is a harddrive and the big bang was the magnet and we got that perfect vidya game universe for life to exist.
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>>29646130
I chuckled a little at this.
Not too much tho
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>>29646196
>perfect vidya game
>life
the gameplay is garbage, mode changes from easy to hard depending on the race and sex that you can't choose, and the quest lines became extra shit after the WW2 DLC. Also, you can't do shit without exp points and cash which is not easy to come by, as well as eating and sleeping are factors that affect your health points and it's real easy to die, and no respawn.

perfect vidya, my ass.
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>>29645954
pouring water over your hard drive would have a higher chance than listening to these fucks
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>>29645321

A lot of other things work on that same base.
For example, in password cracking, let's say I want to hack someone's bank account and I need his PIN code. Let's say the PIN code is 4-digits numerical combination, then there are 10000 possible codes.
Trying them all by hand would take forever, but a modern computer could try them all out in seconds.
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>>29646123
You know that 0% of chance still has a chance of happening right?
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>>29646155
that doesn't work in all number systems, and doesn't apply to small numbers.

statistics also isn't real math, it just uses math
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>>29646279
>tfw developers disabled console
>tfw developers disabled mods
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>>29646155
In the .9999...9 = 1 proof, the ellipses say the 9's go on forever so the proof is that it is 1.

There is a finite chance of OP's mad skills you fucking cuck.

Don't post again until you get a brain.
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>>29646155
x = .999....
10x = 9.999...
10x - x = 9.999... - .999...
9x = 9
x = 1
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>>29646155
>stop posting anytime
kill yourself anytime
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>>29646352
>reddit brigade comes in to assist OP
protip: on the time scale we are talking about the number is .0000......1 which in effect is 0%
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>>29646580
>le reddit boogyman
>on the time scale we are talking about

The time scale doesn't matter, something is either finite or infinite. In this case, it's finite - there is no debate.
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>>29646580
You are the reason we need to nuke /sci/ and send its users into a furnace. Take your theoretical degrees in theoretical mathematics back to the STEM circlejerks.
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>>29646631
>>29646708
>le theoretical applied math
hows algebra 2 going senpai?

An infinity small number equals zero as the chance of OP to actually achieve his goal is by the definition of infinite on the scale of time we are on.

In applied mathematics the chance of this happening on the scale of ~50 years is ZERO theoretically, its an infinity small number that only acts finite once the scale of time reaches many eons.
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>>29646755
>Talking shit to people about algebra 2
>Can't even into the difference between finite and infinite

Also
>An infinity small number equals zero

Yes, you're right - but it's a shame that it has literally nothing to do with anything since his chances don't involve an infinite amount of zeros, does it? Saying "it might as well be" isn't the same as "it is". Your original post stated that you believed he had a LITERAL ZERO percent chance of his theory working. You didn't even know what the ellipses on the proof meant, and you're going to accuse others of being stuck in algebra 2, top fucking kek.

So which will it be? Will you retract your original "proof" stating he had a literal 0% chance or will you retract your statement "it might as well be zero"? Is it zero or isn't it?
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>>29646580
>>29646755
*walks into thread*

[shitposts]

*unsheaths calculator*

>BUT FIRST WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT APPLIED MATHEMATICS

*goes full retard*
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>>29646876
>he acts if the difference between infinite and finite is clearly set in the real world
>he talks shit about the elipsis in the proof when no one talked about it
protip if .999....9 = 1 by effect 0.000....1 would = 0

How do we apply this proof to real life? we use scales to judge weather something is infinite or finite over a scale of time

Let's teach you some actual math, ill start with a question
I park a car for 365 days in my Garage without touching it. Has the car moved?
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>>29646952
>uses meme's to disprove someone
good morning reddit, you're just in time for the class answer this question >>29646962
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>>29645321
I can certify that this works. It's actually how a lot of cutting edge software is made.

>t. professional computer man
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>>29646962
Is there any measure of slope and what surface is it on? Presumably through ground vibrations at least the car would move very, very slightly.

Where is this line of questioning going again? Oh, that's right, the toilet along with the rest of the shit you're spewing.
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>>29646962
Technically yes, but that's because solids are just infinitely slow moving liquids. For example, your window after thousands or millions of years, will eventually end up as a "puddle" of glass on the floor.
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>>29647081
>deliberately avoids saying the car didn't move
this is how I know you're in Algebra II, because In an finite unit of time EVERYTHING doesn't have a measurable chance of happening. And by definition a finite number is a number able to be measured.
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>>29647107
Infinite was a poor choice of words. Because there isn't a chance of it happening, but as we speak right now all solids are "melting" by miniscule amounts as it tries to revert back into liquid form.
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>>29645321
There's also a non-0% chance that the atoms and charges will rearrange without you doing anything at all.
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>>29646755
But it's still finite.

Fucking empiricists.
>>29647147
>atoms
lol
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>>29646962
The number 0.000 ... 1 isn't a number and doesn't make sense mathematically. The ellipsis mean the same pattern repeats infinitely. Adding a one at the end doesn't make sense. If the zeroes never stop, where does the one come into play?

As for the subject at hand, it isn't even relevant. The probability of making a perfect video game is a finite number that can be calculated mathematically.

Provided that a magnet has an equal chance of producing a one or a zero, and the perfect video game is 1,000,000,000 bits that must be in a precise order (and only this one such pattern can make a "perfect game"), then the odds of it happening are 1 / 2^1,000,000,000

A small number, yes, but finite and rational.

It probably won't happen (bit of an understatement) but it's hardly impossible (mathematically).
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>>29647081
Solids are solids. Glass is not a slow moving liquid. The reason behind the myth is that old glass is thicker at the bottom. This was just because of old glass blowing techniques.
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>>29646631
Holy shit this is the first Pepe that made me laugh. You can subscribe to my blog too.
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>>29647107
Well, everything doesn't have a chance of happening, but that's only things that are mutually exclusive.

So if I flip a coin a trillion times, there is a chance that I'll get a trillion heads. However, there is no chance that the first flip will be both heads and tails (given that a coin must land on one side or the other in this experiment)
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>my 1's and 0's arranged themselves into an affordable and effective cure for all strains of cancer
>swipe the hard-drive with the magnet again, because I was looking for that early '00s Barbie game where she's a slutty secret agent who goes around the world solving puzzles
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>>29647136
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>>29647345
In theoretical mathematics infinite is a poor choice of words as there is no unit of TIME which on our dimension also requires RELATIVITY, In applied mathematics of a unit of time the chance is immeasurable relative to our chosen unit of time so we say Infinite.


Do you say an atom of Helium is radioactive/unstable? NO but does it decay over a large scale of time? YES! In applied sciences you take into the scale of time, in theoretical you could drown yourself in probability and string theory.
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>1's and 0's arranged to create the most cancerous website in the world
>Not le 9gag
>Not le Reddit
>Not Tumblr
>No
>No
>How can this be
>Well, it makes sense
>/pol/
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>>29647388
>>29647345

so a magnetic field just randomly magnetizes parts of the hard drive?

this shit is like saying if you eat enough peanuts you'll grow into a tree.
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>>29646755
The number isn't infinitely small. And if it was an infinitely small number, it wouldn't matter if the time was one year or a billion. The chance would still be zero.

Infinitely small means zero except in cases where we are comparing to another rate. So to see the chance of something infinitely small happening in an infinite amount of time, we would compare the rates of them approaching infinity and zero.

That doesn't make sense in this context though. It would only make sense in comparing a probability that approached zero as time approached infinity. Although the chance of this probability would be one (it would definitely happen), so it still doesn't make much sense.

Look up divergent and convergent limits for more info.

A fun, counterintuitive fact from this is the sum of 1/2^n as n goes from 1 to infinity is 1 but the sum of the series 1/n from 1 to infinity is infinite.
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>>29647508
Alright, then a program that randomly creates a series of 1s and 0s on a drive. The math is the same.
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>>29647450
Neither of these things are relevant, STEMsperg.
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>>29647625
your mom is the same.

>hey guys i put a dog in a microwave and it turned into a horse XD
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>>29647239
infitesimal is a mathematical concept also you have no unit of time in your proof
>>29647586
>using calculus 2 to help prove your point
>failing to use calculus in your point

1/2^n
2^-n
ln(t) = -n(ln2)
t = e^-n(ln2)
T = -(1/ln2)e^-n(ln2)
[-1(ln2)e^-n(ln2)]{1->infinity(b)}
(-1(ln2)e^-b(ln2))-1(ln2)e^(ln2)
ke^b(ln(1/2))-2ln2
k(e^b(ln1/2))+2) =/= 1 as lim(e^b(ln1/2)+2) does NOT approach 1/k as b approaches infinity
>>29647677
theyre relevant in APPLIED math dumbass
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If any of you finds this thread interesting, you should give this a read:
https://maskofreason.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/the-library-of-babel-by-jorge-luis-borges.pdf

It's a very short story by Borges. The premise is that there are these innumerable blocks and they're all connected to one another. Each block has a bed, basic living supplies, and these tall bookshelves that are all filled up with books. The contents of these books are just strings and strings of letters that have been selected at random. Like you'd probably expect, the vast majority of the books are filled with complete gibberish.

So that's the set-up. Give it a read if you're interested. Borges uses this weird premise to discuss the nature of infinity from many different perspectives: theology, set theory, physics, biology, etc.

Spoilers: The library's inhabitants organize into cults, each with a different explanation for the library. They have all figured out some "meaning" to it all, some goal that they must accomplish. Some cults are searching for this very particular book that gives like a map of all the books in the library, which is quite a Sisyphean task since it's almost impossible to find any coherent book, let alone one that lists all the other books. Other cults have invented their own languages, which follow the random distribution of the letters. This allows them to draw some sense out of the more common books around them, even though they're all completely senseless. Kinda makes you think about how we live in our very own senseless world. We're either on the hunt for something beyond our grasp, or we're making up this elaborate mythos to explain the cold and chaotic universe around us. It's kind of like the difference between existentialism and religion. Or maybe, linguistically, the conflict between prescriptive and descriptive grammar.
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>>29646477
You would have to subtract x and .999 from both sides tho
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>>29647295
It takes millions of years to happen, but solids do break down into liquid form uninformed physics anon.
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>>29645321
>try this
>it create a thoroughly mediocre game that deserves a 5/10 at best
Thanks a lot, OP
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>>29646400
>you have to pay for third party mods
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>>29647388
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