Coping with gf's slutty past
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How do I cope with the fact that my girlfriend has ex-boyfriends who she was sexually active with? It sickens me. Yeah, I understand that she's with me and loves me now, but the fact that she was so immodest in the past pains me. We've talked about it before, but the conversation never really goes anywhere.
>>29348780
embrace the cuckery bruh
>>29348780
these threads always bring a smile to my face. it's fun to see the cucks squirm.
>>29348812
>>29348853
How dare you reply to this normie trash you inbred goosecocks? You are literally the reason we've gotten this bad
>>29348810
Nope.jpeg
This topic is 100% classic robot fodder. Normal people don't get worked up about their partner's past sexual experiences. Only weirdos with psychiatric illness do.
Inb4 b-but real robots dont even have gf's
>>29348780
Be the lonely robot. It's better than settling for someone else's goods.
I've tried to get over this before. Honestly I was never able to respect her because of it and kind of treated her like shit. I know it was the reason because I had a virgin gf before her and was way nicer. I guess just realize that she's nothing special? That way you can just leave her when you get bored, it's not like she deserves your commitment if she has an indecent past.
>>29348891
But I want to be a contributing member of society, and that means getting married and having children.
The question is, why would any girl with so much "experience" be interested in a beta virgin?Answer: Beta Provider
>>29348915
Oh, you want a family, too. Good luck then.
>>29348915
your kids will have chads genes you know that? search microchimerism
>>29348901
>indecent past
That's the thing though. Im not sure if I'm being too harsh on her. She was technically a virgin when I met her in that she had never had vaginal intercourse (can confirm, saw her hymen before breaking it, resulting in blood)...but she had sucked her previous boyfriends cocks, which is arguably just as bad.
Am i overreacting ?
Ive been with her for 3 years and really like her and dont want to leave her, but im just sickened when i think about her sucking those faggots' cocks and guzzling their cum.
>>29348780
Sex isn't that important. You just need to stop caring about it so much. Having sex doesn't make someone less pure or whatever.
>posts webm of blowjob
>complains about woman not being pure
goodness gracious you really are a special sort of retarded huh
>>29348985
Roastie detected. Keep telling yourself that, you deluded whore.
>>29348780
There is no hope
end it
Been there
You lie in bed at night and think about all the dicks she sucked
Imagine all those guys in the room with you
A whole soccer team?
>>29348981
How many guys?
Why did she do it?
Did she already know them?
Did she hide it from you.
Put stuff together and decide for yourself.
Unfortunately you made the mistake of waiting this long to confront the issue, otherwise you could have just left her.
is this a /webms that make you want to suck cock/ thread?
>>29348780
you are such a pussy op, my wife and I fucked like crazy. When we got it out of our system we met each other and shit is CASH. GET LAID FAGGOT
>>29349056
There were only five of them, so more like the starters on a basketball team. Also, see>>29348981...she only did succ, not fucc, so im not sure if i should feel slightly less like a cuckold
>>29348780
Stop posting this fucking thread, you are corrupting our robot minds with ridiculous insecurities. People have multiple sexual partners in their life time now.
There are plenty of real things to feel insecure about, like never being able to measure up to her past boyfriends and her probably cheating on you right now because of it.
>>29348780
>girlfriend
get the fUCK OFF THIS BOARD RITE NAO
>>29349046
Correct, and I hope you can be happy someday, anon.
>>29349121
You are whore
>>29349069
>How many guys?
5. Only oral *allegedly*, but she also admits that she came really close to fucking the last guy and that she was grinding on his cock with her pussy and that it went in maybe 1 cm but no more.
>Why did she do it?
Various reasons. 3 of the guys she thought were husband material and she didnt think they would break up...2 of them she admits were her just being promiscuous and stupid.
>Did she already know them?
Yes. They were all relationships that lasted years or several months.
>Did she hide it from you?
No. She readily admitted to it when i asked her very early on in our relationship. I was so desperate for a gf though that i accepted it, consoling myself with the alleged fact that she was a vaginal virgin...weve been together 3 years now
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>>29349151
You are human and deserving of love, just like everyone else is. The idea of being a whore doesn't bother me at all.
My wife had sex with one guy before she met me.
I honestly don't care. Why should I?
>>29349077
No you queer.
>>29349249
You shouldn't. It's very narcissistic to care about something like that.
>>29349108
Honestly 5 is a lot despite what others here say, but in the end it comes down to if you can accept that. I personally wouldn't be able to sleep at night, but if it doesn't bother you that much now you might be fine.
>>29349121
Could you do us a favor and fuck off?
>>29349236
>The idea of being a whore doesn't bother me at all.
Of course it doesn't, you used-up cumrag. No self-respecting man would every marry you. You're just common garbage. No one wants sloppy seconds. We want modest girls with enough self-respect to save themselves for their future husband.
>>29349236
If you're baiting then good job, if not then good luck.
>>29349277
>five is a lot
Yeah...b-but what about the fact that she only did oral and not vaginal with them. Does that count for anything?
>>29349339
Not in my eyes, and obviously not in yours either from your attitude.
>>29349284
I am engaged to be married to the only man I've ever had sex with. What I said here >>29348985 and here >>29349236 didn't hint at my sexual history, so you assumed it instead. I hope you can be happy some day.
>>29349236
implying you would love a robot before going full ER
>>29348981
stop being a faggot. not everyone is autistic and only able to get 1 partner in their lifetime like you. she sucked their cocks cause she loved them, but that love is gone now and shes with you. its been 3 fucking years. get the fuck over it. no one is a qt pure virgin anymore.
>>29349368
>only man I've ever had sex with
Sure, but how many cocks did you touch or suck before his?
If the answer is not 0, then you're a fucking slut, andall of my previous comments stand.
>>29349249
You are being cucked in the 4th dimension.
>>29348780
>How do I cope
You can't.
You chose her instead of a virgin one, and you can't change that.
And you can't even change the penis size and performance of dem exbfs.
>TL;DR: welcome to reality!
>>29349405
>Chad telling beta to man up and deal with her cum stained whore
>>29349425
The answer is 0. I consider those things sex as well.
I think it's sad that you measure the worth of other people with sex.
>>29349438
>beta telling other betas to be alone forever and share in misery because all girls are cum-stained whores
good luck in the real world kek
>>29349447
If that's really the case and you never even touched a penis before your husbands, then I'm sorry. Good for you, and I wish you a happy marriage. If only I could have been so lucky to have found such a pure, chaste girl. I'll have to settle for my user up cumrag.
>>29348780
Normie get the fuck out, you can go discuss this on /adv/, we do not care
>>29349485
Despite my apparent purity, I think that referring to your girlfriend as a used up cumrag is absolutely despicable. I don't think I am any better than any other person and neither should you.
My fiance had several partners before me and was not a virgin. Would you judge him so harshly?
FUCK OFF OP YOURE NOT A ROBOT STOP TRYING SO DESPERATLY TO FIT IN
>>29349558
You are worth more as a virgin because you're husband doesn't have to think about you fucking other men. Just because you can sleep at night knowing he slept with others doesn't mean everyone can.
>>29349447
>I think it's sad that you measure the worth of other people with sex.
A bit hypocritical, no? The fact that you made it a point to remain chaste until marriage indicates that you too measure human worth in terms of the amount of sex they have had. Girls are bombarded with opportunities to have sex, so the fact that you managed to remain a virgin indicates that it was a conscious decision based in your values...deep down in your heart, you look down on girls who had sex before marriage, and you feel that you are better than them. You can deny this up and down on our belover imageboard, but you know its true in your heart.
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>>29349199
>They were all relationships that lasted years or several months.
And she didn't fuck? Sure, pal
I've been there OP, back from my normie days when I had a gf
The only advice I can give you is to not ask her any more questions about it and make every effort to not think about it. The more you dwell on it the harder it will be to get over it.
Also, look at it this way: you've had sex with her now, right? Do you plan to marry her? If the answer is no, then you're no better. When you break up, she'll have to admit to her next boyfriend that she's not a virgin and she's been with 6 men in the past.
I know you feel like your sex with her is pure and honest, and her previous sexual experiences are vulgar and crude, but is there any real difference? You said she was in long term relationships with those previous men, how is your long term relationship superior and more worthy of her sex?
So two things:
1. Unless you intend on marrying this girl, you have no right to complain. You can't complain about girls not be pure as snow virgins while having sex with them.
2. I know it sucks to think about but you just have to get over it. Either that or break up, because you can't change her past. So either force yourself to put it out of mind or break up with her.
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STOP RUINING MY BOARD NORMIE SCUM
>>29349558
>I don't think I am any better than any other person and neither should you.
Again, you know in your heart this isn't true. You can deny it all you want, but you think you're better than girls who had premarital sex because you made a conscious effort to not be one of those girls FOR A REASON.
>My fiance had several partners before me and was not a virgin. Would you judge him so harshly?
It's different for a guy in modern day society, unfortunately. Whether you consciously admit it or not, its more acceptable for a guy to have multople sex partners. Guys who have tons of sex are revered by their peers. We call him Chad...girls on the other hand are lookeed down upon as whores if they have too many partners.
So, in conclusion, you are engaged to Chad, which makes you feel good because society tells us to prize such men...and you also feel that you're better than girls like my girlfriend , who didnt have the modesty or self control to save themselves for their future husband.
>>29349405
Well put anon. Dude seriously she could have sucked 36 dicks but at least you got the pussy.
>>29349679
OP here. Dude...I bought a fucking engagement ring last week. That's why I'm getting so worked up over this. I have decided to marry this girl. I love her, and the chances of finding a truly pure girl at our age is vanisbingly small, so it wouldn't have made sense to dump her with the intention of finding a pure girl...so yeah, im rightfully kind of irritated by the fact that my FUTURE WIFE sucked five cocks. What now?
>>29349782
We'll be happy it's only five cocks and not fifty. At marriage age only five cocks sucked is on the low end of the spectrum. If you keep looking for a qt snowflake virgin you'll end up alone forever, with a devout Christian (have fun there), or an ugly swamp donkey that nobody else wanted to hit.
Post engagement ring with timestamp to prove you're not cuckposting.
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2299543/pg1 lmao you are all cucks
>>29348780
SAUCE/SOURCE?
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I cant believe nobody except people like op cares about this anymore. Humans sure are very adaptative. In these days women are teached to be sluts, also thanks to the feminisn and the 'equal genders' bullshit, its something perfectly normal to see a female soldier, president, etc. And to see them having "innocent" sex since incredible young ages.
I personally don't want used pussy, if you do then good for you but you'll always be a pathetic cuck in my opinion.
>>29350021
Ya, I think I'd rather just be alone if I can't find an innocent girl. At least I can keep all my money that way.
>>29349996
That clip is fucking intense.
Chick looks miserable towards the end.
>>29349890
The ring is being custom made right now. Here is the receipt with timestamp. I made a down payment of $500 and need to pay $1800 more when I go pick it up...
Yeah....
>>29348915
>wizards and underage fags will berate you for this
>twenty-somethings without gfs will laugh while wishing they had gf
>twenty-somethings with gf will begrudgingly agree and think seriously about a married future with their current gf
Can't escape it, mang. If she's good enuff for you, then may as well take the dive while you're still young enough to jump ship if things go south.
>>29348780
forget how many people she slept with. that is what i have to say.
>>29350119
>people are seriously doubting how whorish women are
topekek
the delusion ITT, thank you op for proving virgin posters wrong
>>29350099
they love it
>>29348780
You may not be her first, her last, or her only. She loved before she may love again. But if she loves you now, what else matters? She's not perfect you aren't either, and the two of you may never be perfect together but if she can make you laugh, cause you to think twice, and admit to being human and making mistakes, hold onto her and give her the most you can. She may not be thinking about you every second of the day, but she will give you a part of her that she knows you can break her heart. So don't hurt her, don't change her, don't analyze and don't expect more than she can give. Smile when she makes you happy, let her know when she makes you mad, and miss her when she's not there.
>Bob marley
>>29349611
I didn't remain chaste on purpose. I had anorexia as a teen and couldn't relate to other people easily.
>>29349724
I did not make a conscious effort not to have sex. I wanted to as much as any girl. I don't think having sex has any effect on a person's worth. Society is made of people, so if you disagree with society's view on sex, then you should have the courage to act like it.
I hope you realize some day that reducing people to stereotypes only makes life harder and more painful for you and those around you. My fiance is not a chad. He's a person.
>>29348853
>it's fun to see the cucks squirm
they're getting laid at least while you're gonna die a virgin most likely
>>29350197
>husband
Could you explain why the fuck you think you should be posting here?
>>29348981
>which is arguably just as bad.
you realize if her ex only got a blowjob out of her then he was likely a shy/timid/beta wimp and therefore have nothing to be intimidated by? it's not like she's an alpha widow. you're making it sound like she's a whore when she's got less experience than 95%+ of women.
>you will never have a big dick
>you will always be a joke to women
>>29350234
If r9k had been around when I first discovered 4chan, I would have been here every day. I think r9k is an echo chamber of depression, anxiety, and self-loathing. It needs a few kind and reasonable voices.
Anyway, r9k is for everyone. It's purpose is to share personal experiences. No one can say that anyone else doesn't belong here and no one can keep anyone else out.
Depends OP, did she swallow?
Easy OP, just realize you're not special, you'll never be special, and you don't deserve to be special. She isn't special either.
Life is a depressing spiral of shitty events. This is one of them. Love isn't a real thing, it's completely conditional, and she will eventually get rid of you just like the other N dicks she's had in her. Don't cuff a whore.
The best you can hope for is your eventual death be quick and painless. Until then, just try to make the best of a shitty situation. It helps to realize she's just another girl, and you shouldn't put her on a pedestal. By caring you're empowering her and all the dudes she fucked. No matter how you talk about, now matter if she suddenly feels bad or something about it, it will change nothing.
Realize life in inherently meaningless and by making this whole situation have any meaning you're just hurting yourself.
>>29350306
And grass is green, do you honestly believe you can change anything?
>>29348780
Was or is?
That is the question.
If she IS, break up with her.
If she WAS, then I say enjoy your relationship.
>>29348877
Complaining about your girlfriend is robot tier? Since when did having a girlfriend become normal or acceptable on this fucking board?
Go back to plebbit, cunt
>>29350348
Not on my own. But if I can help change even one person's life for the better, then it was worth it.
>>29350312
I never asked the details, but I can only assume she did. She was with some of those ex's for years, so I assume she did all the blowjob variations.
Part of me wants to ask her about the details, but I know that new disgusting information would fucking haunt me for the rest of my days, so I will never ask her any more questions about that shit.
>>29350301
most girls don't have even tits or perfect legs. everyone has faults, the difference is there's a lot more beta men who are willing to accept innumerable faults in female partners. everyone wants to be perfect though.
>>29350197
>Society is made of people, so if you disagree with society's view on sex, then you should have the courage to act like it.
That's exactly what we do.
>>29350171
We have to resolve this modern civilization propaganda shit ASAP. So many guys are being raised in a way that specifically won't turn women on.
We're acting as if we have different instincts than pic related. It's all bullshit.
>>29349890
No. Five (six including OP) partners is above average. The average for women is 4 lifetime partners.
>>29350400
Legs and tits are not their main sexual organ for giving pleasure. A small dicked man will always be a joke in the eyes of a women.
>>29350428
Yeah, but she only had vaginal intercourse with OP. The other five guys were only oral sex partners.
>>29348780
She's going to make an engineer or sys-Admin a great wife, someday.
>>29350451
See>>29350119
OP is marrying her. At least she saved her pussy for OP. That's something I guess.
>>29350021
yeah I'd rather just become a homesteader/hermit in a rural part of Wyoming if I'm not married to a traditional housewife type woman by the time I'm 30ish.
You had a chance to fuck girls in highschool when they were virgins like everyone else OP. You didn't for whatever reason. You can't expect everyone else to not fuck because you couldn't when you were younger.
>>29349996
google image searching the thumbnail sometimes works with webm's.
>>29348985
The reddit raid is real
Fucking hell it's over everybody
>>29350527
I attended an all male Catholic highschool, and my parents didn't let me go to parties. I had no way of meeting girls apart from approaching them at the mall or movie theaters, which is way harder than just having horny teenage slights around you all day in school.
>>29348780
Watch some MGTOW videos until you understand your feelings and leave her.
>>29350441
sure, in the same way that bitches with misshapen/saggy/sloppy looking tits are. or bitches with nasty beef curtain vaginas.
you are not perfect but there is also someone out there who is not perfect and willing to put up with you.
>>29350559
I'm not from reddit and I'm not trying to raid r9k. You'll just have to accept that people can disagree with you.
>>29350394
If you're okay with your wife and your children's mother having swallowed five other men's loads, go for it.
IDK how to cope. I don't think we were evolutionary designed to cope with it. I think we were designed for monogamous pair bonding. But some men seem to be able to do it. Maybe it's genetic.
>>29348780
sauce
>>29349040
welcome to r9k where us normies get something to laugh at
>>29349077
>>>/lgbt/ you jew
>>29350579
So people shouldn't fuck when they're younger just because you had unfortunate circumstances?
>>29350601
>If you're okay with your wife and your children's mother having swallowed five other men's loads
Well, when you put it that way, I just want to kill myself.
>tfw my mother never even kissed a guy other than my father
Why the fuck did I have to grow up in modern America???
what if she still get dreams about their fatcocks?
>>29350601
MOST men (and women) are able to cope with it. It's just not a big deal to people with healthy, stable mentalities.
>>29350635
Anyway, she didn't fuck. She only sucked cock prior to me. But yeah, she should have had more self-respect and self-control. She should have saved herself for her future husband. Now I'm marrying used goods. No one wants to marry sloppy seconds.
Annon im ready to settle down now
>get gf who was only in one relationship for 10 years
>have sex with her more times in 3 weeks than he did in 10 years
LMFAO
>>29350703
suck chad cocks and swallow their cum but marry the good guy
>>29350681
I don't think most men are able to cope with it actually. Even in the modern west you still have people who share OP's feelings, and this is afer a lifetime of cultural conditioning normalizing promiscuity. Outside of the west (the vast majority of the world population) this kind of sexual history would be a non-starter.
>>29348780
FFFRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTBT
woowie that was an EPUC one xddd
That was a real stink! Haha
*makes a little poopie* :^)
good goy OP
>>29351022
Why is Louis C.K. associated with cuckoldry. I never understood this one.
>>29351139
he loves BBC and multiculturalism
>>29350390
You did mine. Your question of why would OP equate a person's worth with having sex and what kind of sex, how many times, with what kind of men made me wonder why do I do the same.
And I ask you, why do you think some of us think this way?
My current GF had sex only once, with one guy, whom she knew for long, and is a successful CEO and a family friend who ignored her completely from the next day on.
And I feel fucking bad thinking about it that she was so fucking stupid to trust a cold emotionless man to provide her with a comforting sexual experience. It makes me value her less compared to the situation where she'd be with a loving relationship with a loving man.
It fucking makes my blood boil and makes me irrational and hurts and I don't want it but the emotions take over and I feel fucking bad.
What advice can you give me to get over this? I really want to.
>>29350471
Get ready to move now.
>>29351192
Damn. At least OP's girl was in stable, committed relationships when she gave those blowjobs. Whereas your girl was literally pumped and dumped by Chad. It would make my blood boil too. I wonder if she came from Chad's dick.
>>29351234
It'll be great, I'll acquire my wizardry powers deep innawoods while hunting bears and elk.
>>29351245
Of course not, he was and is a fucking selfish prick just used her, and then dumped her.
How stupid do you have to be to think that you'll have a great first sexual relationship with a man everyone else warned you is using other person?
Your comment doesn't help though. She is still wonderful and acknowledges that it was a stupid mistake, because at 25 being virgin was just a huge peer pressure that she just had to act and a man with confidence and stature was interested in her.
The real question is why can't I accept the fact if it's my girlfriend and why I wouldn't fucking care and judge if it's an other girl?
What the fuck?
>>29351192
The only way to get over it is to just accept it and move on. Your only other option is to dump her and look for a pure virgin, but, like other anons have said, those girls are getting rarer by the day. You can't undo the lewd one night stand she had. Sure, she demonstrated lack of good judgment and self-control, but people make mistakes, man. Chad may have taken her virginity, but she's with you now and loves you.
>>29348780
Have you had sex in the past? If yes, why do you care, if no, you already proved you don't care by having a gf with a past.
>>29351419
>just accept it
So how do I fucking do it? I just wrote that I can't. It's like saying to a fatty that "just lose weight". The fatty can't because her body makes her gorge on food and she can't convince her body to wanting to be thin. Her body needs to be fat.
Likewise, why the fuck can't I accept this thing?
>>29348853
are you beta or alpha anon?
>>29351385
>The real question is why can't I accept the fact if it's my girlfriend and why I wouldn't fucking care and judge if it's an other girl?
Because humans are biologically hardwired to be selfish. Literally the only thing that actually matters biologically is procreating, so of course you want your mate to be a virgin. It's a relic from the olden days when you couldn't be reasonably sure that your kid was yours unless you ripper the girl's hymen. Indeed, the desire to have a virgin is your natural instinct safeguarding you from being cuckolded.
The reason you don't care about other girls being sluts is because they are irrelevent to your procreation. Naturally, you only care about your own potential mate as she will be the one carrying your presumptive children.
We're just biological machines.
it's ok as long as she doesn't have a roastie.
>>29351419
>Chad may have taken her virginity, but she's with you now and loves you.
A person who was stupid enough to trust her losing her 25-year preserved virginity to a careless cold person is with me and loves me. It makes her less valuable in my eyes than if she had fulfilling sex with caring boyfriend(s). It's not the act of sex, it's being stupid enough to throw your carefully preserved virginity to a hack that makes her less worthy in my eyes.
But it she were another man's GF, I'd just say the same shit as you, and would honestly think that it doesn't devalue her.
But if it comes to my GF, I want spotless when it comes to sex. Not virgin, but spotless, healthy, good sex.
Why the fuck I can't accept that one makes mistakes in a sexual nature?
Fuck me.
I don't understand how you guys can actually function normally without having thoughts of your gf fucking others. I'd literally drive me insane.
>>29350691
>people should save themselves for ME
Seriously
>>29351552
I mean, you're not wrong in my opinion. You're right to think that she was massively disrespectful of her own body and self-worth to just carelessly allow herself to be pumped and dumped like that after carefully preserving her beautiful gift of chastity for so long. Perhaps it bothers you so much because this indicates such a glaring character flaw of poor judgement and impulsivity, and you don't want your kids to inherit these unfavorable traits.
>>29351616
Yeah, what the fuck is wrong with that? Obviously *I* myself did not exist in her life at the time, but the platonic ideal of who I am to her now did exist , and she should have done the right thing and held off until she found me, the manifestation of that ideal. By doing that lewd sex acts, she devalued herself and demonstrated lack of self-control.
>>29350201
hows that a bad thing cuck lol
>>29351740
Dying a virgin is bad because the purpose of every organism is to procreate, so failing to do so is literally failing at your ultimate purpose in life...but no, by all means, continue to fap to anime while eating chicken tenders and sipping mountain dew in your mom's basement for the rest of your life. Real fucking fulfilling.
>>29351694
What makes you worthy of her saving yourself for you and nobody else?
>>29348780
you need a muslim gf :3
>>29351789
You are a slave of your programming normie while I rule my life
>>29348780
You might try not dating used goods.
>>29349228
saw ya in the got a gf thread, and you posted like 50times, noice
>>29348780
You won't get over it until you lower yourself and wallow in degeneracy like she did/still is.
>>29351791
Your question is loaded with a logical fallacy. It didn't necessarily have to be me who she married, but it just so happened that it was. I dont naively subscribe to the notion of soul mate, but there are degrees of how good of a partner someone is, and they can be divided into two groups: marriage material and not marriage material. As her history has shown, her ex's were nont marriage material. I, on the other hand, am good enough that we are getting married. There are plenty of other guys out there who are good enough for her to marry, but the point is that she didn't hold off long enough to find any of them. Sure, she was testing the waters with her ex's who turned out to be not good enough for her, but did that testing need to include devaluing hersself by sucking their cocks? No. She should have preserved her chastity while evaluating them until she finally found one of the marriageable guys (which I happened to be)
So yea, i dont think im a special snowflake or her soulmate or anything, but she should have fucking waited for her husband in general.
>>29349339
>it went in her 1 cm
That means all the way. Also that is losing her vaginal virginity by the way, another man's penis was inside her, stop lying to yourself.
>>29351967
I don't think you understand how relationships work anon. Nobody is going to wait weeks or months to decide if they want to fuck someone.
>>29352049
But her hymen was intact
>>29348780
>immodest in the past
Jesus you sound like some fundamentalist imamas long as she didn't do any gangbangs or anything its fine
>>29351810
>not wanting a pure catholic gf who'll save herself until after marriage and the be freaky and kinky in theboudoir
>>29352054
What about the millions of people who do exactly that?
>>29351583
It's called cuckoldry. These people are fucking cucks who get a pounding and throbbing erection when thinkinging about their gf getting pounded by anotherblackman
>>29352171
Good for them I suppose. But the majority of people aren't going to wait 25+ years to have sex.
You should forgive their sexual history. As long as they're not riddles with diseases, it should be OK.
I am hoping she forgives all the weird porn I've capped to anyway, like the loli, toddlerkon and futa.
>>29352195
OK but some people do and see that as what they want in their relationships, so you can't just say "you don't understand relationships" for wanting something else.
>>29352208
>being a weeb
Kys
>>29348780
She is a whore and do not deserve to be loved. Deal with it like a real man. The other option, is being cucked and listening to other whores advice. Good luck on that.
>>29350119
>being this cucked
Honestly I'd rather be alone than waste that much money on roastie filth.
>>29352230
I can though. The absolute vast majority of people don't see a reason to wait until their mid twenties. If you want to then fine, you just can't reasonably expect others to. Don't understand why you'd even want to get married in the first place unless you like betting on the losing side.
>>29348985
Filthy whore detected. Cleanse it with fire.
>>29349890
stfu, no whore deserve love, if you choose to accept that, you are not a christian at all, you are just a faggot who accepted sin as a way of life
>>29350172
This is faggy, whory and cucky. Not useful advice at all. Never settle for whores. They will fuck your life up and down. Sex easily becomes an addiction. This is a cheer up text directly from hollywood movies. This is the blue pill faggy way. Ignore.
>>29352329
shut up roastie slut
>>29352483
Guys can't be whores anon.
>>29352329
I don't think you understand relationships actually. You don't seem to understand the purpose of relationships in the first place, what selection is, what standards are, or the reason behind male sexual preferences.
>>29352483
I will never settle for a slut. Fuck them all. They are fucking garbage. They suck the life of a good man, and the dick of the bad ones.
Only a retarded or a inexperienced would fall for this slutty hateful meme.
>>29348780
No matter what your opinions about sex are, the fact that you keep thinking about it makes it a continuing issue in your mind, which is why it's still bothering you.
Sex is something people do. Sex is something she used to do with other people. Sex is now something she does exclusively with you. A past issue is a non-issue when it has no impact other than you continuing to think about it.
Nothing will ever change it.
Also, any of the issues /r9k/ will through at you, e.g.
>beta provider
>impure
>cuck incoming
Are only things that exist through the warped lens of /r9k/ itself.
Run far, run fast.
And if it makes you feel better, try some freaky shit with your girlfriend that she has only done for you. It might make you feel more special.
>>29352513
The purpose of relationships is finding someone you want to be exclusive with. It doesn't mean you want to marry them. Doesn't mean you want to have kids with them. Just that you want to fuck them exclusively. You don't seem to understand quite a lot of things, relationships being one of them.
>>29352587
Thank you for demonstrating that you lack a fundamental understanding of the purpose of human relationships and for proving me right.
>>29352546
This will never help you really. Why would you give your heart and life for a whore who used to do everything with other people?
Is that what you want to dedicate your energy, tears, blood, sweat and money?
Just don't do this. Search for a good non whorish girl. And see trough all lies, because they all lie about receiving a small amount of dick, when they didn't.
Don't give any % for a whore girl. They don't deserve any love. Only dick. Use them, how she love to be used by the chads.
Only date virgins.
Ever.
>>29352614
Explain the purpose of relationships then. I'm curious.
>>29348780
>gf
you're either lying or you need to gtfo
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>29348780
trade in for a less used model. Keep doing this until you have more partners than the woman you are dating.
OP, get a hold of yourself. She's just sucked some dicks. It's really not the end of the world.
Now if she'd had sex then that would be a different thing entirely. After more than just one partner a woman's commitment level drops dramatically. I don't have the chart handy but it goes from something like an 80% chance of not divorcing your ass to 50% after one partner, and continues to drop with each partner you've had sex with.
Look, we all get jealous sometimes. Especially when dicks in the mouth are involved. But it's really not so bad, as other anons in this thread have pointed out she's more pure than like 99% of women in the world.
>>29352690
It's true, but not enough. If she wanted to marry, why did she sucked random dicks? Don't have romantic emotions with sluts. It's ALWAYS a bad path to walk.
>>29352546
>Also, any of the issues /r9k/ will through at you, e.g.
>>beta provider
>>impure
>>cuck incoming
No, modern society has just made you believe that these things aren't a big deal. You might be the biggest cuck of all for falling for it.
>>29352623
This is the reason I tried not to put my opinions of sex into my recommendation.
It won't work if you think that sex is this magical, mystical thing with another person.
Sex can be that magical, mystical thing, but that's not because it's sex, it's because you're doing it with a person you love.
>whore
>used to do
Are not connected to the
>lie about past experience
Having sex is the past doesn't impact one's worth or personality. Lying about it, however, is a huge problem, red flag, and you should run for the fucking hills, at it implies a greater character flaw (willing to lie about stuff), or a deep one (they have fucked up opinions about sex and wish that it had all never happened so is lying to pretend that it didn't).
>used to love being used by chads
I love fucking random women, and sometimes I like engaging in BDSM and flogging the shit out of a girl while I fuck her doggy.
If I had a monogamous partner I was in love with, who didn't enjoy those things, I might miss doing it, but in the end, they will be insignificant in my mind. Same works for girls who used to like things, but now like you.
I have a question for girls if any wanna poke their heads up - the above description of myself is 100% real. Would it bother you?
>>29351967
Did you ever stop to think if she is marriage material?
Protip: she isn't
>>29350119
topkek JUST DO IT OP
>>29352642
The purpose of relationships is to create an environment to raise children in. Exclusivity arose in relationships because a man knows his woman's children are his, and he is not wasting resources on another man's genes. This is why men are attracted to attractive young women, because they are fertile and can bear children.
>>29352794
And what if I don't want kids? Most guys don't want kids till they're older and they're not going to sit at home and jerk off when they can go out fuck someone.
>>29352748
Random sex easily becomes an addiction. Any frustration on the relationship would florish feelings of giving up for those desires.
I never felt that before start fucking with random girls. Sex does CHANGE a personality. This is for sure. Why risk having your heart broken for pretending to walk the high road? You won't win anything but sorrow and pain doing this. Settle for what you can love without being anger about.
>>29352737
Well, let's break it down.
>beta provider
Historically, the provider is a role played by males. In modern times, many women get jobs and contribute. Either none are "providers" in the sense of a singular role, or both provide to their relationship, and children.
There are two possibilities - your partner works, or doesn't. You're a provider either way.
So, why does her having had sex in the past (when on average, so has the male) make you a beta provider?
>impure
>implying there's anything wrong with sex
You should probably get back to church for a real life hivemind on this.
Virginity has been romanticised throughout history as a means of promising males that there is no risk that offspring won't be his.
In the age of birth control and paternity tests, this is irrelevant.
>cuck
This isn't a past sex thing, this is a cheating person thing, which means that such a person is a cunt.
There isn't even a correlation between the two.
>>29352101
It's sad that current trends have dropped your standards so low.
>>29352826
Biologically speaking, you do want kids if you want to have sex. There was no difference between the two before birth control. But that technology popularized 50 years ago has not fundamentally changed human psychology which evolved for millions of years in an environment where sex = children.
>>29352836
GO BACK TO PLEBBIT ALREADY
FUCK
God damn degenerates
>>29352832
>easily becomes an addiction
You're absolutely correct anon.
And you're also right in saying that frustration in relationships causes doubt, and the desires you mentioned create a "grass is greener" kind of thing.
However, this isn't limited to past sexual experience. A person who is a virgin before they met you might have the "what have a missed" effect when frustrated in a relationship.
I'll say again - you're right, but in this case it's more a matter of pick your poison, which is never a healthy way to look at relationships.
>changes a personality
Extrinsic things change it. Success with sex builds confidence. A true addiction drives you to seek what gives you the fix.
>settle for what you can love without being angry about it
Which is good advice.
The case I make to /r9k/ is that past sex isn't something that should anger them.
this thread is pure gold
>>29352836
Because you are dedicating your entire life for a whore. Why would you do this? She is not yours. You are not special in her life at all. You are just a guy she choose to stay with. She can easily replace you, because she has no emotional attachment with you. You were not her first, you don't make her heart pound fast and hard, you are just like the other hundred guys she fucker. Just Mediocre. No value.
Virginity IS important. It's a bond. You are all the references for pleasure and passion that this person knows. It's a bound a lot stronger than what 99% marriages carry today.
In the same way, a dude who used to fuck around, is probably not going to settle with any good girl also. The reverse is also true.
Saying that nothings is lost in the mind, when you whore around, is just a delusion. You lose your innocence, and you don't value your partners as much, because you have so much experience to compare them to, and you can easily dropout them, with no feelings attached at all.
>>29352860
But I don't though. I just want to bust a nut, I'm not about to spend 18 years of my life and a ton of money raising a kid. Maybe in my 30s but certainly not now. No point in being tied down if I don't have to be.
>>29352836
>There isn't even a correlation between the two.
Actually there is. Observe:
>impure
>implying there's anything wrong with sex
You should probably get back to church for a real life hivemind on this.
Faithfulness has been romanticised throughout history as a means of promising males that there is no risk that offspring won't be his.
In the age of birth control and paternity tests, this is irrelevant.
>>29352896
I am arguing that it is. I really believe it makes a huge difference.
>>29352925
Not him, but it just sounds like you want a fuckbuddy/fwb, not a girlfriend.
>>29352960
You don't have to kids with or marry a girlfriend though. I really don't get why that's so hard to understand.
>>29352984
You don't have to get nutrition or sustenance from food though. I really don't get why that's so hard to understand.
>>29352984
You can say that about anything, really.
>>29349199
This is fucking creepy that you ask for so much detail
>>29352984
But you get emotional over a girl, and lose half your heart with her whorish ways. Why risk a depression for a filthy used meat hole? It's just not worth it. Not at all.
Just focus on fucking, and not getting dragged to any relationship with whores. When you find a cute, virgin and chilled girl, you settle with her.
>>29353014
Sex isn't the same as food. Comparison doesn't work at all. Relationships can just be for having someone to come home to and fuck and go out with. You don't need to have kids or marry someone you're dating.
>>29353059
You don't have to date someone to fuck them.
>>29353030
roastie detected, go away
>>29353035
But I don't get emotional over girls. I'm not a teenager any more. I don't base my well being in relationships.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlYZnd7dEPw
>tfw have gf now but totally dont respect her and will cheat on her at first opportunity due to her having an ex bf
she is just, a project you could say. a human puppet I will soon grow bored of
>>29353059
Food isn't the same as sex. Comparison doesn't work at all. Eating can just be for having some poptarts to come home to and enjoy and gorge on. You don't need to get nutrients or energy from food you're eating.
>>29353092
No I'm just a normal guy. I feel like if you're interrogating her like that, she must be tied up in your basement
>>29348780
>We've talked about it before, but the conversation never really goes anywhere
Where exactly do you expect it to go?
Back in time to unfuck her?
>>29353078
You don't need to have kids with or marry someone you're dating.
>>29353117
Wait you're comparing the marriage to nutrients in food? Lrn2analogy
>>29353117
You're not even making sense anymore anon. Why does it bother you so much that people date and don't marry?
>>29353144
>>29353153
You're eating a diet of poptarts and candy everyday, and telling the guy who wants steak and eggs and vegetables that he doesn't understand the point of eating.
>>29353114
I did that, and it felt horrible. But I don't respect her at all. That part was not my fault tho. I was ready to give my heart to a virgin who didn't run to the chads. When I discovered she loved chads as any other whore and that she had sex, I wasn't able to love her any inch.
That's why almost all women lie about their sexual past. They know it harms their image. Fuck them hoes.
>>29353124
You don't have to be gay to suck dicks.
>>29353165
You're assuming everyone wants the same thing as you do when they don't.
>>29353177
Sucking dick as a guy does make you gay though anon.
>>29353119
good idea desu senpai bring virgins to basement and tie them
>>29352906
>She is not yours
Yes. Owning other people isn't ok.
>chose to stay with
Which is the premise of any relationship.
>not emotional attachment
This is its own problem anon.
>you were not her first
>you are just like the others
Except she chose you.
>virginity is a bond
No, it's literally a milestone after which one says "sexually active".
>lose your innocence, and don't value it
And here is the crux of it. No, I don't value it, because innocence walks hand in hand with being naive, which is frustrating to see in adults.
I'll just reiterate: feelings and sex are not the same thing. They often overlap, but can exist independently of each other.
Sex lasts for the moment, and feelings last as long as they are nurtured and reciprocated with your partner. They can also go, but that isn't related to sex.
>>29352932
You make an excellent point, but it fails on the following:
>Faithfulness has been romanticised throughout history as a means of promising females that there is no risk of another woman stealing him away from you and his children.
In the age of court orders and paternity tests, this is irrelevant.
You could use the above to make the argument that females shouldn't care about fidelity and guys should just fuck around within their monogamous relationship.
But lo and behold, both parties still value faithfulness, for a bunch of reasons I don't feel like listing desu.
Also
>correlation
Where is the correlation between past sexual activity in subjects and infidelity?
>>29352942
Which is a reasonable stance I won't challenge, because it's your right to have it.
All I'd say is it limits you, but you're not an idiot, and you know.
Good luck anon.
>>29353122
You want to respect a women you like. You want to be able to love her, in the face of her shitty past. But how can you, when she sucked and fucker a lot? It's the most repulsive thing, to love a whore
>>29353211
Sucking feminine dicks doesn't make you gay though. I really don't get why that's so hard to understand.
>>29353194
I'm not actually. Obese people want junk food, I don't assume otherwise. I'm just pointing out they can't tell people with healthy diets they're wrong for wanting that. Personally I don't think people should eat junk food but people have the freedom to do so. I don't care unless they start trying to propagandize.
>having bfs who she was sexually active with
>slut
God, you're such an incredible faggot it makes me sick.
>>29353231
>respecting women when they aren't even capable of respecting themselves
Why?
>>29353254
You've gone completely off topic now anon. Do you have an actual reason as to why dating without marriage bothers you?
>>29353225
Of course is ok. To marry is to own the other, and to be owned by them. If you don't like that, don't marry.
Virginity is one of the most strong bonds one can have in life. Every first stable sexual partner a person has, has a large % of being one of the most emotional markers of her life.
You just see things different than me. You say that sex millage is not important to weight the value of an relationship, and I say it is very important. Thats ok, I'm trying to help OP based on what I have seen on life.
>>29348780
How do women not bite cocks clean off when men do this.
>>29353281
Never do it. Whores never change.
>>29353292
It doesn't bother me.
>>29353235
Sexual activities between two males is gay.
>>29353321
But not if it's a feminine penis.
>>29353225
>But lo and behold, both parties still value faithfulness, for a bunch of reasons I don't feel like listing desu.
What are these reasons? This is the crux of the issue.
>>29351789
>muh biological imperative
you Kant be serious
>>29353301
Because they enjoy being degraded and dominated. It's the top fetish among women.
>>29353338
Penises can't be feminine because women don't have dicks. If you're gay then fine be gay who cares, but don't delude yourself into thinking traps are straight.
>>29352127
Both
26e606e26e2
>>29353369
But I'm not talking about traps.Sucking feminine penises is totally straight.
>>29353235
t. a faggot
>>29353293
>to marry is to own the other
No. There has been reforms in western legal systems over the last century to prevent this being the case.
Marriage is a contract that protects a relationship and the people in. That's it.
>Virginity is a strong bond
Look, it really isn't based on my experience. I don't even speak to the girl I lost mine to. In all honesty, I didn't like her that much, just wanted to fuck.
The bond you may be talking about may have something to do with emotional attachment.
>>29353348
Ok fair call.
I would say things like:
>fidelity is a symbol of commitment that people value
>some people get insecure about sex and ask their partner to only be with them, which is fair
>some people DO feel that emotion is linked to sex and don't want to risk the emotional stability of their relationship
>some are monogamous to conform to expectations
>concerns about the paternity of children in and out of the relationship
Of course, these are just reasons people value fidelity in their partner.
Some people value it in themselves, because they like the idea of their emotional attachment being mirrored by their choice to make love to one person.
Those are the ones I can think of.
The only woman I have ever loved was a virgin.
The ones I have met after that I never loved, although sometimes I desired them quite a lot. They never gave me butterflies in my stomach.
>>29353532
Fair point what the one thing that I noticed about the counter argument is that you ignore the fact that the poster said "and the other owns you" so for him the ownership is mutual. I honestly agree with you, I'm just pointing out the flaw in your argument.
>>29353532
>Marriage is a contract that protects a relationship and the people in
I don't understand this. How exactly does marriage protect itself (or the relationship or whatever) and the people in it?
>>29353593
It protects the women, and fucks the men. More like that. Lose half your shit, your house and your children guard. So much protection.
>>29353532
Most of these reasons for fidelity have parallels with the reasons why someone like OP would value sexual inexperience in a partner. It can be symbolic, emotional, culturally expected, among other things. I don't see a reason to deem these motives legitimate in one case and not the other.
>there are people that would kids a girl that had some dude's dick in her mouth
>there are people that would touch a girl that let some dude cum on her
Fucking nasty
>>29353689
*Kiss not kids
Fucking christ
>>29353591
Semantics to be honest.
I felt the phrase "to own the other" covered both parties.
No worries. I'll remember that when I'm writing contracts
>tfw law student
>>29353593
Because the contract is recognised as valid by the legal system it originates in.
So, the legal system, government, and authorities agree to be bound by its terms and implications (e.g. a spouse being allowed to immediate see an injured partner), or in the case of children, an agreement stating that both will care for them. When the contract breaks down, that's why new court orders are needed to enforce certain things.
Basically, making it a contract makes it a valid thing in civil law, which can then be enforced, invoked, or used to protect people involved in it.
Prenup is a good example as well.
Very romantic, huh?
>my girlfriend had sex before me! the fucking bitch, what do I do?
you people cannot be serious
i literally cannot believe people like you exist
>>29353743
Why not? No one wants to love an used and impure women, only the faggots and cucks
>>29353739
Oh yeah, very romantic. So is divorce.
Ah well, I suppose marriage actually meant something once upon a time
>>29353665
Very true, and I included them to be even-handed.
Like I said, it comes down to personal view.
I see some as not worth the effort and emotion, because they're either unrealistic, or difficult to find with any intent to do so (for example, try opening a date with "are you a virgin?" - doesn't go well), which makes it an emotionally draining "requirement" for a relationship.
All the above are arguments as to why it shouldn't matter.
They can do it, but it'll just hurt them in the long run.
>>29353775
>meant something once upon a time
It meant more, sure, but it still means something. It's a symbol of commitment, and as I've said, it protects people.
It's just less emotional now, because there are other means of protecting relationships (see: de facto), and religion is becoming less and less important, along with its institutions (i.e. the symbolic and holy marriage).
>>29353743
I know, right. These guys have to be kidding us. Literally just like hitler. They're all white males.
>>29353787
>because they're either unrealistic
>try opening a date with "are you a virgin?" - doesn't go well
This just reflects the current absolutely terrible state of Humanity and society nowadays. It shouldn't be accepted just because it is like so.
>>29353165
Except marriage isn't better
>>29353838
It's not a symbol of commitment or any of that bullshit, and the only thing it protects is women. Having a girlfriend may as well be the same thing as marriage if you're a man, because if you actually do get married you get fucked over HARD.
>>29353838
It means more today, in an age of free consequence sex and multiple partners, that one women conserve her virginity. This will surely makes her more valuable on the eyes of lots of dudes.
>>29353739
>implying the marriage laws we have right now aren't ridiculously bias towards women so they only protect one party
Really m8? I expect better from a law student, I'm a dumb stemcuck programmer and engineerfag but I can see the obvious problems with our current system.
>>29353787
>for example, try opening a date with "are you a virgin?" - doesn't go well
That's true. Some people find women at church.
It's okay, I'll just off myself eventually
>>29353895
It is pretty biased in protecting females, and it's an issue.
However, the beautiful thing about the country I live in is that court policy can influence decisions, and there's a lot of discretion. Considering that the primary motivator for the bias is feminism, and it's increasingly being forced to the fringe, I see hope.
>>29353857
And we've come full circle, cause my response is: virginity or sex has no impact on a person's worth or value.
>>29353955
What problems can you see?
>>29353890
It is better though, at least outside of the travesty of a legal institution it has become in the west.
>>29353969
>virginity or sex has no impact on a person's worth or value
Even if this is your opinion, the thing is that it does. Denying the truth doesn't change it.
>>29353981
that you are a try-hard faggot, trying to show your flag of student law, to show your status on a anon board . . .
>>29354024
I'm a different guy.
>>29353928
Or if you're like me, I'll see a naive person who is so obsessed with her body and it's worth that she doesn't enjoy a gift that humanity enjoys, is probably a crappy lay, and actually thinks that the piece of skin in her vagina is something to bring to the table in what she can offer in a life long relationship with me.
>>29353955
See
>>29353969
Honestly, I'm actually seeing a trend in which, as a measure to equal the rights that women have around pregnancy and termination of one, involves males being able to voluntarily opt out of parental responsibility before the child is born.
It gives me hope in my feeling-place.
>>29353969
>virginity or sex has no impact on a person's worth or value.
You realize that whether we like it or not, we're all still bound by our biological imperative to reproduce right? People may not consciously think so or say it aloud, but when people find out you haven't had sex past a certain age, they assume something is wrong with you.
>>29354043
Why does that give you hope? Men get their choice when they use a condom or not
>>29354005
>asserts something as fact
>doesn't back it up with evidence
This is ALL opinion anon, this entire thread.
The only thing to do is have a reasoned argument about why you've adopted your stance, and why you think it's a good one.
>>29353981
1. Custody of kids is heavily biased towards women.
2. Men have to pay alimony even if the woman worked and were relatively self sufficient.
3. Men have to pay alimony even if they earn less than the woman.
That's what I can get off the top of my head, just go on google and look up "why marriage is biased towards women" or something similar and you'll find even more.
>>29354043
Except she does enjoy the gift, just not with multiple people. She wants to enjoy it with someone she loves.
You sound a bit mean spirited desu.
>>29354080
There are graphs and shit but I haven't saved any pictures.
But it's not really important. If something is true but there's no evidence of it, it's still true, regardless of belief.
>>29354043
I do feel hope that things will change but I'm speaking in current terms.
>>29354088
In some parts of America, men still have to pay alimony even if they lose their jobs. They have to pay at the level they were earning when they were with their wife. So if they get a new job that pays less, they're payments won't decrease.
Either slave and pay or go to jail.
>>29354054
Different spin on the argument, and a very valid point. I'm staying on topic. Social norms are a can of worms that is best observed from a distance.
>>29354062
Because right now, we get unequal decision making power around the choice to follow through with bringing a child into the world.
Women can make the choice knowing that whatever they choose, the legal system will ensure that the law-biding father will contribute, regardless of what he wants.
This way, men can say "no matter what you do, I won't be liable, so this huge life decision will only affect your life".
>choice with condom
>condoms break
>women lie about birth control
Two things that can happen beyond control of the male.
But if you want to use that argument, then you have to say women should be forced to carry to completion rather than be given the choice to assert bodily autonomy.
Despite the fact that the same mistakes can result in a pregnancy the woman doesn't want either.
>>29354141
Oh wow that's even worse!
>>29354115
I am a bit mean, anon.
I don't mean to totally devalue the decision, but that's just how I see it.
Virginity isn't important, and the way some people view it, it's annoying.
>>29354122
>If something is true but there's no evidence of it, it's still true, regardless of belief
>no evidence of it
That's the ONLY time something is true anon.
Ever.
There is nothing to discuss. Virginity is very important. Women who don't posses it lack something that is the stuff that makes men fall in love.
Think of it this way
You grew up jerking off to every hot girl
She grew up orgasming thinking of every hot guy
Because of you're a male and not good looking you have it much harder to get one of the hot looking girls
But a girl with simple looks can easily get Chad. Chads love dominating qt innocent looking girls. Hence she is capable of achieving her dreams and you're not.
A girl with cute looks is not capable of loving you. No matter how much she says. She already achieved her dream of being with a Chad. She already knows what a chad cock tastes like.
One day Chad tells her to fuck off and she has to find a new guy. And that guy is you. But secretly she admires her previous bf while pretending to love you. Her acting is good so you could believing her. But everytime she orgasms she doesn't think of you. She thinks of the chad that used to pound her pussy to oblivion.
And now what can you do about it? Nothing. The love of your life is a cunt and likes big cocks but has no choice but to be with you.
She has already masturbated multiple times to Chad. Is that any different than Chad physically fucking her? No. Its the same.
The point is no matter you will not be loved unless you're a Chad with 10/10 facial aesthetics and 7 figures salary.
The solution is to simply not a give fuck and have sex with as many girls that you can. Forget about marriage and having children. Whats the point of a wife if she lives her life in dreamland with Chad? How can you face your children? What would you tell them? That your mother is married to you because Chad didn't want her anymore?
No
You simply reject that. You live a life of isolation.
Women don't deserve our affection. If she doesn't want to save her virginity for you then she doesn't deserve your love.
Its not hard
Just do it
>>29354207
So if a man commits a crime and destroys all evidence of it, then no crime has been committed?
>>29349249
How do you explain the fact that I care?
And, how do I stop caring?
>>29354122
>Literally believing claims without evidence.
Why though? Evidence is proof that it's correct, if there is no evidence or evidence that goes to the contrary, that means the claim either hasn't been researched or is bullshit.
>>29348780
Don't get married. Sooner or later she is going to get bored. Then she is going to cheat and say its your fault.
>>29354238
Exactly this. Fuck em and dump em.
>>29354269
No, but in this hypothetical, we KNOW he did it, so the evidence we personally have is the knowledge, probably coming from us seeing him do it.
>>29348780
Take it as a sign that she was committed to the person and wanted to please them. It didn't work out, she lost the commitment, now she's committed to and wants to please you. Whatever.
If she ever cheated for any reason, though, dump her.
>>29354346
No, no. Nobody but he knows it. In that case, has a crime been committed as far as anyone but the man is concerned?
>>29354349
>this is what cucks believe
Noice try there cuntnugget
>>29354238
Then comes the "low libido" so the poor bastard wont even get sex. Everntually she will cheat with some guy she met online. She wont feel guilty about it until you find out. Even then its crocodile tears. Then you will be on rk9 or reddit bitching about how your wife/gf cheated on you and you don't know what to do.
>>29354349
All that means is her commitment is worthless. It's temporary and flimsy.
>>29354283
>Sooner or later she is going to get bored.
This is both the fatal flaw and main success point for human beings, but makes our lives miserable. We've been evolutionary programmed to crave novelty and explore, this is what allowed our species to innovate so much, however this also means we get bored quickly even if our conditions are great. We get accustomed to our circumstances and take them for granted and seek bolder things. This forces people to take more and more risks to get the novelty high, making them miserable in the process and possibly hurting those around them. This is why people cheat and get bored of their once perfect partner, that craving for novelty, this is why so many people wanna go back to the highschool and college days, because back then everything was novel to them and they weren't so desensitized to the world. This is why life is a miserable tragedy. Evolution has forsaken our happiness for the advancement of our species.
There are different kinds of sluts, there are ones who actually go out and seek to suck cocks and their are legitimate abused women who suck so they do not get hit or go hungry.
>>29354375
So we'll talk about knowledge - HE knows it, and that's evidence that it happened.
>>29354452
Everything you typed doesn't apply to women because sad, pathetic excuses for Human beings.
>>29354463
Don't care. A slut is a slut is a slut.
>>29354479
And if you take that man to court and try to pin that crime to him, how are you gonna prove that he did it?
>>29354501
No that is not true. Some girls are just dumb and full of cum, they are not evil sluts looking to suck cocks and virgin shame.
>>29348780
y'all take dating too seriously. dating is not the end game, finding a partner for life (hopefully to marry) is. The whole point of dating is to bounce around different people until you find someone you want to settle down with. Her exes are exes for a reason: the two of them were not good for each other. The two of you still might be. As long as she doesnt have a crazy sexual history (which she doesnt sound like she does), it doesnt matter that you're not her first, what matters is that she loves you enough to decide to make you her last.
Lets face the facts, she cant give you her virginity, but she can still marry you, take your last name, and give you a family and be the mother of your children (inb4 the ebin chad's children meme, in reality that happens incredibly rarely, as long as you keep her happy in your relationship). In the end, it only takes a single bad decision to lose one's virginity, while the aforementioned things take years of work to achieve. Imo, intentionally having kids is the strongest bond possible between two people. Besides, its her exes that should be jealous of you, not the other way around. By being with you, she is saying that you are better than them. Odds are she probably even regrets having sex/being with them.
>>29354529
respectful people do not have sex before getting married.
>>29354529
She's still a slut.
sex before getting married is wrong and immoral.
>>29354494
You think women didn't find you perfect at first until they got accustomed to you and wanted novelty? You realize that most of what I said applies to women as well. Even if you think women are just oversized children, you will find that children have the same behavior, a child will first be absolutely infatuated with their new toy but will get bored and want more in the same way adults do.
>>29354529
>"le dating is just fun and games"
fuck off back to r e d d i t
>>29354570
then OP isnt a respectful person either.
>>29354571
how was she supposed to magically know that OP was going to come into her life if she had no idea he even existed?
>>29354571
She lost her virginity to OP though. She only sucked the cocks of her ex boyfriends. In my book, that doesn't constitute being a slut.
Cuck central wew lad, please continue
>serious, unironic slut defence
Revolting.
Why don't I go try every drug before being sure I don't want to be fucked up and addicted.
Why don't I go mug people and rob houses before settling down to a job and career.
You never know until you've tried it, after all. And those days of drug fuelled gang violence were just me discovering myself and finding out what really matters.
>>29348853
What does cuck mean?
>>29348780
Women don't love men, this is a common misunderstanding. They are biologically wired to "love" you but they don't feel it like the media show or even the same way that men love each other. Don't worry about her sexual past, just remember what I said here. The only woman who loves you is your mom, nowadays even the mothers can't love their sons anymore, keep this in mind.
>>29354666
Least the guy had the decency to tell that nigga that his gf is a filthy cunt
The math don't lie. Let's be generous and say she lost her virginity at 18. Let's be generous and say she averaged 3 cocks per year.
You meet her when she is 29 and she tells you she is looking to settle down. What do you do anon?
>>29354618
never said it was fun and games. it is serious and should never be overdone, but it really is just a lite version of a real relationship. You cant just jump from your first date ever to immediately deciding to spend the rest of your life with her/him, thats not how it works. odds are that the two of you would have irreconcilable differences that would eventually make themselves known and ultimately prove that you arent good for each other. thats why most people end up dating several people over the course of their lives. Yes, OP's gf may have felt passion for her exes at one point, but whether she realized it or not, since those relationships failed before they could take off in a serious direction she never felt a serious love for them.
But you are right about one thing, there is a point where someone's history is too much. imho 5 (which is op's ex's number, iirc) is a huge number that I would be very suspicious of, but that might just be because I am still a college freshman who hasn't been alive for very long.
>>29354750
and women are outraged about it
>>29354834
Thats assuming she is telling the truth.
>>29354740
>The only woman who loves you is your mom
Top lel there senpai
>>29354517
But we're talking about fact. It did happen, and the job is to convince others it happened.
That's a separate issue.
>>29354872
yeah ur right. but if she's a liar im sure OP will figure it out long before they decide to start a family and OP will have a chance to find a good girl.
>>29354834
>5 is a huge number
OP here. She had five ex's, but she did not have sex with them. She only did oral with them. I took her virginity.
Try and find one who isn't a whore
>>29354959
That's my biggest problem. They talk about sexual liberation or whatever the fuck they call it. They say slut shaming is bad and men should get over their past. But then you ask them how many guys they have been with and they lie about it. To me it seems they are the ones ashamed of their history when they lie.
>>29354899
But no convincing is required in the first place. Imagine the man somehow forgets that he committed a crime and destroyed all the evidence. Is it still true that he committed a crime.
>>29354998
Then whats your problem? 5 is like a month of sophomore year for Stacy.
>>29355017
Now the hypothetical is getting out of hand.
What's the crime? A murder? Those people are no longer there to be found. Theft? Those items are no longer in the possession of the people who owned them. Trespass? I imagine that he killed a bug as he stepped on it that wouldn't have been killed if he wasn't there.
There is literally always evidence. Whether or not it can be found, or observed, is a different question.
>>29354998
how old are you and how long ago were they? because if they were for example high school crushes I wouldnt even think about it as a serious part of her history. her mind hadnt even fully developed at that point and she was still an impressionable child.
it is wrong to have sex before getting married, I do not think most women have sex before getting married or they would never get married
is it true most of them are whores why do their parents do not know?
>>29355159
>I do not think most women have sex before getting married or they would never get married
Why not? Is there something stopping them from having sex before marriage?
>>29355144
I'm now 23, and she's 22. Two of them were in highschool, and the other three were when she was a freshman/sophomore in college.
>>29355015
honestly that behaviour is more typical of stacies. i may just be lucky, but I know a lot of good girls that don't fuck around or hook up. And that doesnt mean that theyre bad looking either. My first ex was absolutely stunning. but only had sex for the first time at age 18 with me. She only dated one guy briefly in high school before me too
>>29355210
How do you feel when you kiss her cummy lips?
>>29355201
Yes it is considered immoral also you will go to hell. I do not believe your lies about girls having sex like this.
This has to be a joke. I am a sure there are pure women who do not have sex before getting married. I am a man who never kiss I am 32. I would not expect every girl to have kissed by 32 if they are not married.
>>29355231
Contrary to popular belief, the cum of her ex boyfriends has long since been washed away from her lips, so kissing her just feels like kissing her lips with no depraved sensation of cum.
>>29355303
t. cuckmaster supreme
>>29355303
Does she make fun of you for being inferior to his penis?
>>29348780
The way his dick bends while doing this hurts me.
Why would somebody do this? Oral "sex' is disgusting.
>>29355271
>I am a sure there are pure women who do not have sex before getting married
>>29355271
Lmao. U are so delusional man. You think there are 32 year old women who have never kissed before...wow
>>29355271
bruh i hate to break it to you but most people have their first dating experiences well before that age. Hell, most people marry before that age.
>>29355325
Yes of course. I was told that you must wait for love, and that there is somebody for everybody and that there are nice girls who do not kiss before getting married. Obviously.
Why are you trying to say all women are whores?
>>29355317
No, actually she says that I havr by far the biggest penis she has ever seen. Honestly that's a big part of the reason why I am able to endure this suffering. If she had told me that her ex had a horse cock, i would have probably ended it
>>29355328
Yes but I think not every girl is disgusting.
>>29355353
You know girls say that to every guy right? lol
Just do what the webm guy did. Forced deep throat over and over. Don't let her wipe the drool off or the cum on her face. Then use a marker to write slut on her skin and whatever else you want. Then make her stand in front of a mirror while you remind her what a cock sucking whore she is. Make her stand there while you read a book or browse the internet.
Problem solved.
>>29355353
Here we see the subtle manipulation by the female as it occurs in nature.
>>29355347
Because they are get it through your thick skull mate
It's fucking over for you, me and the rest of the cunts on this board
>>29348877
you disgusting piece of trash if you've ever had a conversation with a girl you're not a robot.
>>29355210
so she really only had 3 real boyfriends. how many have you been with? Also, basic arithmetic says that the amount of time she spent in a relationship with you is greater than the amount of time she spent as an adult in a relationship with all of her exes combined. I think at this point its safe to say that she loves you a lot more than any of her exes and that if she knew you existed back then, she would have chosen you. i understand what you're feeling, but also realize that her exes should also be jealous of you because now you are with her and not them. one of them may have have taken her innocense (again, at a young and impressionable age), but in her eyes none of them will ever be worthy to start a family with. you, on the other hand, have a very good chance.
also if you want to get serious advice and help rather than getting taunted by NEETs, you should have posted this thread somewhere other than r9k.
>>29355474
There is no way it can be that bad. Why would they do this to us?
>>29355488
>how many have you been with?
I never had any previous girlfriends, but I did hook up with some girls, which is more degenerate I guess.
>>29355536
what does ""hook up" mean?
>>29355536
oh ok i thought i read that you had one before. nevermind. for future reference, generally speaking relationships work best when both parties have a similar amount of past experiences (so yo can better understand how she has no feelings for her exes now, believe me if you had dated a lot you wouldnt even think about them with her in your life), but if you can make this work, great.
>>29355574
Like kiss and stuff, but I didn't have any vaginal sex before her. I was a virgin when we met. I had received a blowjob tho.
>>29348917
this 100%
marriage is dead. I will never settle for less than 5 women.
>>29355574
high school: made out
post high school: one night stand
at least that is what I think when I hear hooked up.
>>29355603
your problem is she has more experience than you. That wont Change.
>>29348981
holy shit you got actual virgin w/ intact hymen?
only the lying chads get that.
stay with her bro.
all cells get replaced every few years. all of the bj cells have been replaced already with fresh new cells.
>>29355665
Yeah, this is why I'm ultimately staying with her and marring her. Finding a cute vaginal virgin in my 20's was like winning the fucking lottery, regardless of the cocks she sucked. I'd be foolish to leave her. Sure, a kissless, cocksuckless virgin would obviously be ideal, but those don't really exist past age 12 nowadays, unfortunately. So yeah, this is how I cope, in a nutshell.
>>29354238
>>29354398
>>29354292
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>>29348981
You need to engage in special therapeutic acts to overcome your toxic masculinity.
Start by asking your girlfriend to peg you. If that's not enough, ask her to bring guys home for you to share.
>>29355733
I don't blame you, gotta take what you can get in this world. You should marry her seriously.
>>29349110
no, fuck you, you internalized-misandry faggot.
it's women who are worried about measuring up to past girlfriends.
> muh beta provider might realize how much of a bitch i am and leave muh basic ass
men...well, it's about honor, and the knowledge that women have none.
> be me.
> realize 2 ex-gf's lied about being virgins.
> I waited a year to have sex because of it.
> Plus didn't have sex in hs and early college because I wanted a woman who also waited.
> Total 8 years of crazy sex missed out on.
> Because women lied to me.
> Plus, I compromised my dreams for those same "marriage-material" women
> Now older women relatives tell me, "date around!", "practice!"
> When 10 years ago it was, "you're too young."
> dafuq.jpg
> don't they realize all the Chads have 10 years more experience?
> fucking reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
> it gets worse
> realize 3 dates / casual gf's had been raped, knew who did it, were too pussy to murder their rapist, and decided to lie about it instead.
> had sort-of-suspected when I heard some stories about their past but didn't let myself realize it until now.
> mindbreak.png
> become a robot. start staying in my room a lot and reading redpill literature to understand what the fuck happened.
> best friend fucks my oneitis and rubs it in my face.
> hellodarknessmyoldfriend.mp3
> move coasts
> start over
> decide to turn evil since that's what women prefer
I have more stories/details but that's the gist of it.
tl;dr: NO HYMEN, NO DIAMOND.
>>29356000
trips for truth
000 is the number of previous sexual partners that is acceptable in a marriage.
>>29356000
damn dude. how are you still alive.
>>29356000
A THUG DIES BUT ONCE, A COWARD DIES A MILLION TIMES
GO HARD OR GO HOME NIGGER
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>>29354380
How exactly can you call someone a cuck if they were not actually cucked? You're using the word so much it's losing its meaning.
>>29354446
So, there are literally no valid reasons that a relationship cannot work out?
There is no shame whatsoever in being sexually active with someone you're in a relationship with, regardless of marital status. I am not saying that whores don't exist, that getting into a relationship with someone just for sex is okay, etc. And cheating means the commitment is worthless. A breakup does not always mean this.
>>29348780
Nu-male cuck
>>29354695
Not comparable situations at all
Fuck, you people are delusional
>>29356314
butthurt whore or chad
>>29356000
"had sort-of-suspected when I heard some stories about their past but didn't let myself realize it until now."
Can you share some of these stories?
>>29356365
At the end of the day, you're miserable with your life and I'm happy.
Were you a virgin before meeting her? Then shut the fuck up, you dumb piece of shit .
>>29356314
This bro sexual experiences are a part of human nature its self actualized love from god!!! sex wouldnt feel good if we werent supposed to have it lol
>>29350451
> be engineer
> literally build shit that pushes out the frontiers of civilization, ripping luxury and privelege out of an uncaring hostile Universe.
> spent a decade of grueling mental training to become degreed in this arcane art
> spent another decade of grueling on-the-job training to actually practice it
> made a real positive difference in the world
> reward: lies and used-up pussy
fuck this shit, I'm gonna go be a thug
>>29356430
Yeah i was actually. We both were virgins. We lost our virginity to each other. The difference is that she had ex's who she had oral sex with.
>>29356427
>happiness is the ultimate goal in life
lmao the faithless. you know retards shitting their pants while sitting in wheelchairs are pretty content with life, too.
>>29356637
Haven't been on the thread for a bit. Have you meationed why you waited 3 years to confront your issues?
>>29356522
Same here, bro. I'm a doctor. Spent 14 fucking years of acadenic hell, including 80 hour weeks in the hospital during residency, to become an attending physician so i can literally heal the sick....and my reward is Chad and Tyrones' used cumrags who only want me for my hard earned money.
I cant tell who's baiting more, OP or everyone pretending to take OP seriously
>>29356714
Why would you even expect a reward? Didn't you do it for the money or something?
>>29356690
Well, I asked her straight up to tell me about her sexual past in the first week that we started our relationship, and she told me all of it, and i accepted it because it was my first shot at ever having a gf. Ive since thought about it on and off for the past 3 years but at least she wa ls a vaginal virgin
>still ACTUALLY desiring females
It's a nice fantasy, like a fetish thing, but fuck no, a bitch would just try to ruin my fun.
>20 years old
>fit and look good
>financially stable
>going to college
>responsible
>etc..
Literally expect a girl to be a normal weight and a virgin
>your such an asshole
I hate everyone
>>29356872
Hate the cucks and liberals that say you are an asshole. Go to the church, and find a nice virgin for yourself.
>>29356384
> woman A: (on separate occasions) "nothing in my past gives me panic attacks", "these scars are from a cycling accident", "when I was in high school a bad thing happened and my hair started falling out I was so stressed...oh never mind", "a neighbor groped me when I was in high school but nothing happened"
> woman B: was reading a book about recovering from incest, mentioned her therapist recommended that book, had massive insecurity and promiscuity consistent with being an incest victim
> woman C: phobic reaction to the word "sex". like, if someone said "sex" she would cover her ears and start twitching. Also preferred to think of herself as Frank Hardy (of the Hardy Boys), consistent with deserting her own identity as a coping mechanism.
> woman D: told me she had met a man at a fair who had "stalked her for years" and "followed her to her apartment" but "nothing happened". Also claimed that she had been "kidnapped" while in college. Also (tactfully) offered sex for payment to me once. Her personality exactly matched "Belle du Jour", a whore's tell-all book, consistent with having been raped and deciding to seek safety by manipulating men.
> woman E: (probably not raped, but definitely lied to me for 3 years about having been a virgin) Insisted on "waiting for marriage", unwilling to do anything sexual if music is playing, let slip she "had the 6-pack" and "saw a boy naked" in high school, zero blood or pain when I first fucked her.
> woman F: (probably not raped, just a huge slut) "I've used the morning-after pill a few times"
That's all I got. I'm less mentally shattered than I was three years ago when it all clicked, but these feels fucking suck.
DO NOT PROTECT WOMEN unless they are blood relatives and you PERSONALLY benefit. Typical women have no honor and will selfishly lie about having been raped when it benefits them. They are empowered women and could get justice for themselves. Instead, they fuck thugs and make good men pay for it.
>>29356812
Look we both know the vaginal virgin thing is bullshit. I doubt that the actual penis touching her was the issue. You feel like she degraded herself and in a sense disrespected you. You don't want to think about she carelessly got intimate with others. If breaking her hymen was the main goal then feel free to disregard everything I say. But I think the problem is emotional and only you can decide if you can make a commitment to her knowing the emotional turmoil it will carry.
Accept her or move on
>>29356897
I hope it works anon. I'm not particularly religious but if it's what it takes I'll do it, I don't even mind waiting for marriage.
>>29356714
I hear you bro.
If it's any consolation, female doctors are equally fucked-up by their inability to attract a man they can respect.
Also you have the freedom to pump and dump now, and this freedom will only increase as you save more money.
But if you're like me that's not what you really want.
>>29356937
All whores, all liars
Don't fall for the virgin meme until you see blood and she feels pain
>>29357003
Beware of the whores that go to churches to fish a spouse. They are the worst. You really have to be careful. Don't give those hoes an inch to your heart.
>>29357016
Yup, now I know.
WHY oh WHY didn't anyone tell me this 15 years ago?
FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Fuck this shit.
I am going to build LEVIATHAN.
LEVIATHAN is a morality engine. It tracks peoples' actions (via online data, Facebook, etc.) by aggregating all available content streams. Additionally people can get benefits from LEVIATHAN by enabling 24/7 monitoring.
LEVIATHAN provides trust services for a small, reasonable fee.
LEVIATHAN will verify virginity, and LEVIATHAN will verify male commitment.
LEVIATHAN is what will hold civilization together and make me the first trillionaire.
you heard it here first.
>>29350451
sysadmin here, I married my high school sweet heart at 20.
Wouldn't marry any of this used trash that's walking around.
>>29357016
We all suffered with women lies and manipulation. But we all can have our revenge when they got ugly and shitty.
Fuck them. Hate them if you will. All women are actress and liars in the game of love.
>>29356000
You are now aware that women lie about rape a lot.
>>29357188
why do they do it
at least you got a girlfriend you fucking normie piece of shit
stop complaining for a second and enjoy what you have
>>29357216
>have bad break up with boyfriend
>lie about rape
>guy makes her mad
>lie about rape
>no one is paying attention to her
>lie about rape
>have rape fantasies
>lie about rape
>caught fucking chad
>lie about rape
>cheat on boyfriend
>lie about rape
>don't want to look like a slut
>lie about rape
>caught fucking tyrone
>lie about rape
>sex isn't good
>lie about rape
>>29356000
you can get to chad level, just make sex an habit and never respect women again
>>29357246
>At least be happy you have a cumrag!
I would much rather be alone then commit to a girl who can't even save her virginity.
>>29357216
because they can, society protect them all around and if they do something that destroy some dude existence in exchange of money or not being get caught being a whore, they will do it
People keep saying here that girls have sex before love and getting married and I have a hard time believing all women are whores. Why would that be true if we all know some people have to be nice and pure? How can one gender be evil?
>>29357216
> raped, pretend it didn't happen
get a good man who wants a virgin
> not raped, pretend it did happen
enjoy benefits meant for victims, and totally destroy a man's life at the same time
>>29357296
then you don't know what being truly alone is
>>29357310
It's in their very nature, and it's not gonna change until we get artificial wombs or we find some way to change woman's nature.
>>29357326
stfu
I used to have depression and being a robot, around 16 years old, and fantasize about getting a girl
All that did was to show me how fucking whores they all are
They long for the worse of men, they act like whores in every opportunity they can, they lie, they cheat
They are attracted to evil in men
It's better to stay alone, than to date whores, trust me
>>29357310
They love bad boys. Evil men.
They love to cheat and act dirty.
They create life destroying lives.
They all love to abuse their power.
It's true, and it's worldwide.
>>29357371
it isn't so easy when you live in chad country (br) and every conversation is just an excuse to brag about how many girls you fucked/kissed
this is fucking frustrating
>>29357397
Not true.
There are Evil men and Good men
There are Evil women and Good women
The balance is off because of a lack of religion.
>>29357422
I'm from br anon
Treat em like dirty whores, never trust them
The most innocent looking love big cock in their asses
They act innocent, because they know thats what every guy want
No one wants a whore, but that is all what they are
In brazil its easy to get women, real easy, just enjoy em, but never attach to any
>>29357445
>women
>good
Yeah, that'll be the fucking day
>>29357354
I do not agree that women by their nature are evil. I am sure some most wait and never kiss until they find love in their 30s or 40s, there is no way all women are pure evil. If they are, why would we allow it?
>>29357465
I can't get any of these bitches
Normies nicknamed me merdinha
FUCK MY LIFE
>>29355271
Anon most people lose their virginities in high school. As in they've had dick in vagina sex, during high school. You're delusional.
>>29357445
How can there be good women if they can not wait and be virgins and pure like men?
>>29357465
>In brazil its easy to get women, real easy
No it isn't
>>29357445
This absolutely not true. They are attracted to the worse of men. Almost all of them.
They have disgust for weak men. They crave for powerful and sexual guys. The more they fuck random girls, the more they want them.
They like to do stuff to chads, that they will never crave with a normie dude or a numale.
It's so easy for them to get sex, they get addicted earlier. They know how to use their looks power, and they almost all abuse them when given the chance.
This means that with inexperienced men, they will play with their hearts, like a cat plays with a mouse. Never trust them. Just fuck em and dump em.
You have absolutely no good reason to risk having your heart broken, your life totally messed up because you bought up the meme of true love. It's really not like the cinema. Girls will only love you if you encarnate their fantasies:
Powerful, vigorous, influent sexy men. Be a bad man. Be powerful. Use drugs. Drink a lot. Fuck lots of girls. Be dangerous. Be rich. That's all what they crave. Not a normie faggot. Those they can get thousands with zero effort. But not a Chad.
They are ALL like this. They ALL feel this attraction towards the worst of males.
>>29357518
>people don't kiss until they're 30-40
Anon......No. Hell people kiss in middle school. See >>29357529
>>29357529
You are obviously lying, there is no way this is true. Only really bad people have sex in high school, and they are very mean and evil.
>>29357557
I really do not believe you. Obviously the world is not that bad.
>>29357539
>like men
Even the majority of men have sex before they turn 20. The percentage of people over 21 who are virgins is like under 6% or so. It's in a study from the CDC you can find if you google it.
>>29357554
>>29357526
Yes it is, you just have to make it a habit. After a while, it will be like entering 4chan and shitposting. Believe me anons, it's true.
The hard part it's making it automatic. You will have to change yourselves. But don't do it for the whores, they are all worthless. Do it for you.
>>29357578
Nope, it's actually much worse.
The mental gymnastics required to justify marrying an impure woman make me glad I will never experience a woman
>>29357578
How is kissing bad? How is sex bad?
Not everyone is religious and the ones that are aren't all Christian. And the ones that are Christian mostly have premarital sex anyway. Look up the study by the cdc.
>normies forced me to kiss a girl
>I'll never be fully robotic again
>normies literally took everything from me
I'LL NEVER BE A TRUE ROBOT AGAIN
>>29357593
But I'm perfect. Why would I ever wanna change?
>>29357606
What are you talking about? This has nothing to do with religion it is about love. What we are taught they people love each other and wait for the right person.
>tfw current/first bf was first kiss and the person I lost my virginity to
>tfw if it goes wrong and we break up I'm nothing but a used up whore
>tfw there's 15 yr olds trying to fuck him
I was kv at 18....I was perfect....I'm so screwed.
>>29357608
>being around normalfags in the first place
GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE YOU FAILED NORMALFAGGOT
>>29357606
Sex easily becomes an addiction. Our culture promote we explore our sexuality in the early years. Women attract far older dudes. When 15, they date a dude with 18 or 19 years. When 20, they date some dude with 26 and a job.
They want a meal pass, and they get it with sex and their looks. No real love, just pragmatic and strategic thinking. Fuck them.
>>29357593
Shit
I've spent my whole life (I'm 18) jerking off, smoking weed and playing vidya
I don't think I can bring myself together and do what you said here, but thanks anyway, I'll keep it in mind before I switch to crack
>>29357596
Why would you lie and try to hurt people? The world is bad enough as it is. If girls were really having sex before getting married people would react to it. You are a liar.
>>29357644
I wasn't around them
They found out I was a kv
and then out of nowhere, Tyrone started blackmailing me, saying he was going to send everybody a pic of me in the shower
>>29357471
>>29357539
>>29357555
You're talking about Women who have been poisoned by the Devil.
Looking at the big picture, they don't matter.
I want a literal soul mate, we will never part, even in death.
Just like what my Grandparents had.
A girl can't break my heart, because I can just move on and realize she wasn't worth my time.
>>29357631
They tell you Santa drops presents down the chimney every year and the Easter bunny leaves you candy too. Do you believe that?
Sex is just something people do who are attracted to each other. Sometimes love is involved, sometimes it isn't.
>>29348780
there's plenty of other girls who meet your criteria
break up with her and find someone new before some shit prevents you from breaking up cleanly
she'll revert to being a slut though
>>29357671
They don't react to it because so many people have sex before marriage. They figure it's normal and whatnot and so there's nothing to react to.
>>29357691
No, the world is not that bad or else people would react to it.
>>29356669
Why the fuck would I try to prove my intelligence, assets, and/or situation on an online anonymous image board? Any claim I make won't be accepted. It's a losing battle.
>>29357674
You should stop being a bitch and stop giving a fuck. Why did you even care? Do you have a micropenis or something?
>>29357701
No, most guys are looking for love and nice girls.
>>29357684
I'm talking about the cute, innocent girl in your class. Not about the cheerleader. They are ALL like that. ALL of them.
>>29357727
While most women aren't. I'm sure you see what I mean.
>>29357732
If this were true somebody would do something about it.
>>29357732
That's because none of them are truly religious and not God-fearing.
Even if their soul is gone in the afterlife.
God will make a new one...
As for me...
I'd like an old soul like myself
>>29357671
Pic related. Google it yourself. Why the mental gymnastics? What about people fucking is so unbelievable(
>>29357741
How come nobody tells the truth about women then?
>>29357722
no, but my face is goofy af and I don't think I could handle it
but anyway, damage is done already, my shit is wrecked and I can't even be accepted by my brobots anymore
my life is destroyed
>>29357764
They deny the truth, as always. What do you expect?
>>29357764
They do. Did you never talk to other guys or girls in highschool and college? Have you never watched porn?
Seriously. Watch porn. There's video proof that people fuck before marriage. You cannot deny this.
>>29357773
Somebody needs to say something then.
>>29357773
All you do is check to see if they have a hymen periodically, break up with them if they don't.
>>29357745
Religion try to suppress that. Do you see any religion trying to that today in the western world?
I assure you with all my heart, that all my experience with women, points out to this. It's not this dramatic if you just ignore them. But it's all true.
For the non-chad, there is nothing but heartbreak and lies.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/
>>29357786
Yes but those are evil actors. Nice people dont do that. They are pure and wait for love.
Depends if you can cum in her face and then forget about her fast since you own her now.
>>29357788
Why? You keep saying people would react to it but what would they react to?
>>29357788
What would you say? If you say anything, feminists will rape your ass.
They all lie, they almost all cheat. It's true anon. I have no reason to be here lying. I'm just trying to open your eyes to the truth I lived.
>>29357799
See >>29357759
85% of men aged 20-24 aren't virgins and slightly more women in that age group aren't virgins.
Why are you fighting this so hard?
>>29356202
trips confirm. roasties btfo. top keks.
actually, zero keks. i am weeping at my lost future. there is only one way out: that of the Overman.
>>29357839
He must be trolling, no one must be this stupid.
>>29351789
Lmao, don't believe that procreation garbage.
Find your own purpose.
>>29357795
this robot gets it. get redpilled or die alone.
>>29357795
>implying there isn't someone out there in this world of 4 billion women waiting for you
having 1,2,3,6 boyfriends, taking a gorillion cocks, does not equate to being immodest IF you keep that shit to yourself, get your trolling straight faggot.
I had a girl brag to me just to spite me, about the size of the cock she was taking, about who she was fucking, when she was fucking; all very immature and vulgar behavior.
this is not gf material, let alone wife material, which in my case is what I look for in a girl.
she wants to pretend like it never happened, sure I'l go along.
>>29348981
I had this same problem pretty bad OP. My ex used to be a druggie and when she was 15 she had sex with this Dan guy and got high and gave a bj to her dealer friend.the worst of it is that she sold nudes to some guy she met over starcraft. Fucking weird shit on papershe arguably deserved a pass for all that because she had a rough life. She was a hard 5 and people told her she would die alone so why not have sex? At least you can pretend you aren't lonely for a while. She was also raped at knifepoint at 12 so there's that. As much as it pained me to know she had done stuff with a guy before life isn't a Disney film
Gonna continue in next post
>>29357928
I'm not saying you won't be able to have a successful relationship ever. But I'm saying that women are vile beings. At their nature will never change. Thats it.
>>29357985
you are huge faggot, please die
>>29358039
pls explain why I'm a huge faggot
then I'l go die
>>29348780
>she's with me and loves me now
first you have to understand that all women are emotionless harlots and love is an exclusively male concept
she would absolutely leave you for someone else without blinking an eye if she thought there was something she could gain from it
>>29357988
You likely aren't going to marry the first person you care or even have sex with. Waiting for marriage also seems awful on paper. You give the car a test drive before you buy. What if you get shacked up and you find out you are completely incompatible in the bedroom? Also if the mental images are fucking with your head... You ever kiss your mom? Guess who's dick she sucked?
Plus once you've been with a girl you sort of don't care anymore. I'veate bootyand I don't want my hypothetical future gf nagging about that. I brush and floss everyday grill. It's kind of like an existential crisis in a way. You can never go back to your naive view of relationships, but even if you two are experienced you can decide how you make meaning in the world and in each other.
I hope I helped some cause I've been there.
>>29358010
My mother is very kind though
>>29358062
Of course the more bf they have, the less of commitment material they are
Would you date an porn actress that never needed to act in front of cameras? That's what you will get!
>>29358077
>sexually incompatible
wat
>>29358095
I'm talking in a relationship between a men and women. A sexual and emotional relation. Not an son and family relation.
>>29357559
Lmao you're talking like a literal child....
>>29358104
true, I prob wouldn't date TayTayeven if she askedfor that reason.
>>29358120
But you just said women are vile by nature when it is in their nature to be kind and nurturing.
Pretty inconsistent philosophy
They can be kind and nurturing to anyone.
>>29358160
No you retarded. Weapons are made for killing. Does that means that an military operator will get killed when firing one gun?
Women don't act like this to their own child. But they do act like that towards other women(competition) and towards romantic and sexual relationship.
Their looks giver them power. And they abuse that power all they can. It's a tool for life. It feeds them. It keeps them alive by getting a male to protect them.
It's their main tool trough life.
I didn't said they were the living concept of evil. I said that towards male, they act vile, like cats towards mouses.
They predate mens heart and soul.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Manipulated_Man
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/
Just read it.
>>29358113
Kinks/fetishes/ shit like that
Or what if she just fucking starfished all the time?
>>29358216
TRP is bullshit
>>29358216
Sometimes, not all the time though.
My friend's mom has always been kind to me, and has even forgiven me when I did something wrong.
>>29358271
>kinks/fetishes
>LMAO STARFISH
Degenerate.
>>29358362
So you only want to fuck missionary position?
You're literally asking to get cheated on. Shit gets boring if you don't mix it up.
>>29358362
>degenerate
>not a tumblr-tier no significance buzzword
Pick one son
>>29348780
OP is so witty.
>>29358382
Nope
There's titfucking, facefucking, doggy style, creams, etc
All normal shit.
>>29348780
Get a knife. Her ex boyfriend Raul just got outta the pen. She's hot and wet and ready to cuck your shit up.
>>29358517
So how is bondage and other kinks degenerate then?
>>29358745
It's degenerate because it's a kink
