Here's a question... Has anyone actually tried to transition themselves from a beta neet to a Chad?
>>29331972
If it worked they wouldn't be posting here. 4chan and r9k especially is toxic, you'd be well served by putting it behind you.
Sure, I'll sign up for little league right away - gotta catch up!
i did, but i didn't "try to", it just came naturally i guess, by changing my activities and my surroundings.
i just started traveling, being outside a lot, lost a lot of weight and got better at talking to people.
Transbeta here. Currently transitioning to Alpha/Chad.
>>29331972
>turned 21
>decided I was done being a loser and to trun my life around
>started working out, got a nice haircut, dressed well
>obsessively read How to Win Friends and Influence People, it became my Bible
>took out loans and went to Uni, made a shitload of contacts by being socially proactive as hell
>majored in Biology, became an honor student, all of my professors loved me
>became president and secretary of a whole bunch of clubs
>volunteered at a bunch of hospitals and charitable organizations, put in hundreds of hours
>graduated summa cum laude with 4.0 GPA
>did very well on the MCAT and got accepted into medical school with glowing letters from professors
>by second semester I got lazy and disinterested, stopped going places with groups of friends, started skipping classes
>dropped out and resumed old habits of isolation and escapism
>moved back in with parents, miserable and burdened with debt
>ballooned up to 236 pounds (I'm 5'9) and sleep 14 hours a day
>every time I walk past mom or dad they shake their heads in disappointment
There's no hope for us, robots. Don't even try.
>>29331972
Here is my story.
>Be NEET until 24.
>Get a government job somehow
>Get a car
>Get /fit/
>Buy all new clothes
>Eat healthier
>Become more sociable
>Gain new hobbies
>Make 2 friends
>Ask out some women
>3 years later
>Still live with parents.
>Still rejected by women.
>Still a kissless virgin
It doesn't get better. In fact I feel way more depressed now then I ever did as a NEET.
>>29332185
This killed me inside a little bit
>>29332185
What made you lose interest? You were doing so well man.
>>29332005
>4chan and r9k especially is toxic, you'd be well served by putting it behind you.
How? HOW FOR FUCK'S SAKE!!!? I've wasted a the free time from a decade of my life on here. I've spent hours on here every day during that time.
Let's be conservative and say 5 hours a day (which is waaaaay less than I spend on average but it should balance out the few days over the years which I haven't posted on at all)
That is 18250 hours. 760 days or just over two full years of my life which I have spent on this site. To put that in further perspective it is suggested it takes 10,000 hours at any task to become proficient or masterful at it. I've spent almost twice that shitposting. Who knows what I could've accomplished had I been spending that time constructively?
Absolute waste of life.
>>29332316
You just explained why this place is toxic.
>>29332354
I wasn't contesting it was. I was asking How I put it behind me.
I want to leave but I'm seriously addicted.
>>29332262
I know. My life is a fucking joke.
>>29332314
I don't really know, to be completely honest. Everyone just seemed to have a fundamentally better grasp of the material than me and they all had a genuine passion for medicine, while I felt like a huge phony. And I saw all these people just making out and having sex with each other and I felt this bizarre sense of disgust. Even at my best I never lost my virginity or even went on any dates.
>>29332420
>Even at my best I never lost my virginity or even went on any dates.
I feel you there bro.
>>29332316
What else would you have done with this time? I'm trying to cut back on 4chan, video games, and tv but I'm struggling to fill the time. I've been reading and exercising along with working but I still end up with time. I'm also lonely so 4chan ends up being my drug of choice.
What should we do instead of come here? I've thought about befriending my acquaintances from school but I don't really like hanging out with them.
>>29332881
>What else would you have done with this time?
I wanted to be a writer when I was younger. I could've finished numerous books and screenplays in that time.
I could have learned a second language.
I could have worked out enough to have a fit, athletic body again.
I could have read and watched all the unread and unwatched movies and books on my shelves.
I could have done something.
>>29333159
Why can't you do those things now? Do you still want to write? I think successful people get to be where they are by taking risks like devoting time and energy to a project like writing or business that may not bear fruit.
It's really hard because I'm in a similar position to you. I want to leave and do so many things but it's hard and I'm scared of potential consequences. After I had a meltdown this spring I recovered and have been slowly making progress, one day at a time. Just do some activities every day and don't think about the future so much. That's what I'm trying to do at least.
>>29333246
I'm not saying I can't do them now. I'm lamenting I didn't do it.
I know the whole tree today adage but it's still hard to get over wasting so much time. Life is short.
How much time are you spending on 4chan daily since your desire to make change?
>>29332316
Did you at least get really good at shitposting?
>>29333330
I'm exceptional.
>>29333421
I mean at least it's not all bad
>>29333318
A lot but that number is going down. Having a job cuts down on the time a lot and I spend about one hour exercising and one hour reading. I didn't have work today so I've been on 4chan all day. I did go running for an hour this morning at the river near my mom's house which was nice. Tomorrow I'm going to spend about an hour cleaning my apartment in addition to exercising and reading.
I think I'm going to start cooking since I've gained about 15 pounds in the past year from eating garbage. It's going to be tough since I get nervous at the grocery store. My plan is to just fill my time with activities so I don't get the urge to watch porn and shitpost.
>>29333514
How do you get nervous at the grocery store but not nervous while running outside.
People seeing me run or jog outside is literally one of the worst feeling I can imagine
>>29333572
I run on trails at state parks early in the morning when no one is around.
>>29331972
yeah, I'll just take the magical Chad potion that makes me taller, gives me a bigger dick and gives me facial aesthetic gains.
>>29331972
>that picture
This board is pushing me towards ending my relationship.
>>29331972
Chads are blessed with looks, natural charm and wealth. You can't develop all of those, especially when you're so far behind. I've given up, accepted I'll always be a virgin. Never been overweight but it doesn't matter.
>>29333731
It might be pretty legit
>t.back up/rebound guy
Worst part is they tend to cheat often because it excites them. Thank god they don't get to know me well enough to discover my autism.
>>29333635
Lucky bastard
I live in the city, it's impossible to manage this without normies walking their dogs and running faster than me
>>29333731
you suspect your qtpie has a backup plan?
>>29333731
Pictures like that just help me enjoy my bachelor life more and more as it progresses.
>>29333803
I can only do it when I visit my mom because I live in a rural college town. I am going to find nearby places to go this summer though. I don't think I could run in town, I might also start going to the gym at odd hours so I can work out without seeing people.
Started as a beta low test fag, and over the course of 3+ years I have put in serious diet and exercise.
>Lost about 85 lbs
>Dress cool
>Was actually really likeable / cool person before
>Now approaching Chad tier
However, I have actually lost friends because of this. Honestly, people I once were great friends with, I assume, have been threatened by my ascension (so to speak)
>The power of being attractive is phenomenal -- people just respect and receive you with warmth
>Girls check out all the time.
I suppose though, one needs to put themselves out there to really get girls. I don't like bars and am really picky about girls (still chase after the oneitis type).
It sucks, I could fugg multiple girls at anytime--but I'm a redpilled faggot who sits on his high horse. So I'm still a virgin. But at least I got a kiss from both my oneitis'.
I hate graphics like this. They distort the numbers so badly, people dramatically overestimate things.
So let's take this part for a minute. Out of 2,000 women, 860 have a 'backup man'. Out of that 2,000, only 688 have any sort of contact, however a full 172 of that 688 are due to that man being a friend of their husband.
"B-But that's still really high!"
No, it's fucking not. Watch this shit. So about 15% of the 43% who even HAVE a backup like the backup more than their current partner. That comes out to 129 women. Out of 2000 women, a mere 129 would prefer another man in their life to their partner.
This whole 'all women are sluts' meme must fucking die.
>>29333878
I went to the gym once on a friday night (thought I'd be alone) and it was full. I was getting looks from left to right cuz I'm a weak fragile male. I left after like 20 minutes.
>uh.. are you using this uh.. machine there
>"ye"
>...
Try sunday night or, if it's open 24 hours, go in really early in the mornings (2am-4am), that way you can become more and more comfortable in the gym.
>>29333962
>both my oneitis
>both
>one
>>29334097
Both, because they were different periods of time.
>>29332420
That second thing you said there really hit home.
Jesus fuck.
I was heading that way, finishing The game.
After that, I read the redpill for a while and realized something.
Only I can achieve great orgasm's for myself, and most of the time they come free from porn online.
Putting your trust into someone else is like pointing a gun directly at your head, not only can they fuck you emotionally if they wanted to, they could ruin you economically, and if word got around town, they could ruin you completely.
Fuck that, I'd much rather masturbate and continue making money that I will never be afraid of losing in divorce rape.
>>29331972
Mine goes
Young NEET > Low level Chad > Full blown failure praying for a heart attack NEET
I wasn't a NEET or a complete beta but I was in the very socially awkward grey area. I was very good at a sport so it stopped be from becoming a complete outcast. Anyway
>In high school
>Quiet kid
>Socially awkward
>Don't even attempt to look presentable
>Spend most of my time playing vidya
>Small school
>One of the only guys to not go to dances and things like that
>Focused on college and good grades
>Everyone else parties and is having a good time
>Still usually got a pity invite to social functions
>One day I hear everyone talking about this big party
>They were talking right next to me and turned and said I wasn't invited
>Everyone laughed and I shrugged it off saying I was busy anyway
>Decide that this is the last straw
>Go into hiding for a bit
>Study up on how to be social and presentabe and a Chad in general
>Everyone from my school goes to the same university
>Make a bunch of friends, keep good grades, start drinking, and become the life of the parties
>Eventually get back in contact with old high school people
>I invite them to a big party over the weekend
>A bunch of them show up
>They are all dumbfounded by how much I changed
>Everyone has a good time and we start to talk more
>Start spreading rumors about each of the people (mostly the girls)
>While they are drunk, I put them in shitty situations
>Got 2 of them arrested for public intox
>1 girl got pregnant with some random nigger's kid
>1 guy failed out of the school
>Graduate and decide I got all the revenge I needed
>Get a job and don't talk to anyone outside of work anymore
Feels alright
>>29332185
this seems too convenient an ascent, all the way down to the 4.0, that it seems fake. do you have any proof? regardless, if you ignore the last 5 bullet points, it shows there is hope for robots.
>>29333962
>>Lost about 85 lbs
Fat robots annoy the fuck out of me. They had potential all along and were just late blooming Chads.
Try being in good shape and having good hygiene all your life and still being a kissless virgin incel, that's true pain.
>>29334301
its nout about loosing wight. That dude said he had friends before and was fairly sociable. He was a latent Chad all along
>>29334404
wew I need some sleep
>I have spent most of my life alone, and actually enjoying the finer things in life
>things like anime,or vidya, or music or even books are the only way I feel true joy
>parties and other fake fucking shit which requires you to bear a fake fucking smile and talk about fake fucking bullshit to get a fake fucking lay from some used up sorority slut is just too fake for me
>NORMIES don't understand this basic shit, they don't understand why I don't want to join in on the circle jerk of narcissism, adopting their lifestyle of fakeness
>now I see another "clever" post telling me how I can escape my "miserable" robot life and become a Chad.
This is what a true robot feels when he sees these kind of threads.
If we wanted to change,we would've done so years ago. If you think talking about fake bullshit to people is actually a quality, you're retarded. Robots aren't just fucking interested in bullshiting ya fool. Why would any individual, in their right fucking mind would waste time on pretending to be interested in what some boring normie has to say about their "fleek total fire party with Stacy and trixie" when they could read another book, or actually do things that interest them ?
I dont understand why Normies can't just grasp the concept that not everyone wants to tall about menial things, pointless things and small talk.
This is in no way to demotivate those robots who want to improve. Sure, "improve" yourself, but then later you'll realise that this new slut you're fucking every week doesn't give you the satisfaction and you feel even more empty now. Not true improvement.
>>29334564
>I dont understand why Normies can't just grasp the concept that not everyone wants to tall about menial things, pointless things and small talk.
They seriously don't grasp it. I'm positive they think everyone else must be more comfortable making asinine chatter.
I've had two instances in the last two years where I got trapped into talking to the fucking person next to me on my flight. One was a domestic so it wasn't too long but the other was a fucking international flight and the faggot next to me thought it was a great idea to have a conversation. I was reading a fucking book at the time too. And there was just no pause break to cleanly transition back to reading. I just had to sit there and listen to his shit. I wish I was like Sheldon from the Big Bang Theory and could just say, "this is boring" and then go to ignoring them but for some stupid reason I still care what other people think of me.
>>29332316
>it is suggested it takes 10,000 hours at any task to become proficient or masterful at it.
bull shit
>>29334718
Why do you find it unreasonable?
>>29334564
>I dont understand why Normies can't just grasp the concept that not everyone wants to tall about menial things, pointless things and small talk.
Normies are all extroverts who rely on others for support, the normie network. I like just sitting in peace and quiet, even with my family. If I ever got a gf I'd probably be useless, since she'd expect me to be some dominant, confident, masculine, outgoing man.
I feel like I'm wearing a mask whenever I talk to normies. They can probably sense it. I've connected with very few people in my life.
>>29334694
>>29334762
True. Over time you just develop those dead eyes, eyes of the person who knows what's up. People then don't try to make small talk .
>"hey were you at last night's party at Brad's ?"
>"ohh noo was it that fun ?"
>"yeah"
Literal conversation between 2 Normies of my class. I don't understand, how, in any way is it an "improvement" to my personality. You'd be surprised to know that 98% of normie conversation is this.
>>29331972
does not being completely over your oneitis of nearly 10 years count as a back up man?
>>29334746
People with the aptitude and motivation can excel much sooner than that, and people without those can stagnate indefinitely.
>>29331972
It really is sink or swim theres you cant just dip your toe in or soend your whole time in the shallow end
I feel like with our kind, there is a natural mechanism where we ought to be forced into more and more extreme states where we will either fail and die, or prove ourselves and gain experience that will allow us to be comfortable with life. But in our society, this mechanism is thwarted. Instead of failure leading to more precarious states with more danger and opportunity for redemption, we are allowed to remain in a state that goes nowhere. We fail and are told it's not our fault, but not forced to move beyond our failure. Assume that half of us, had we been allowed to follow the natural course, would have died. We are being kept alive and suffering because society mistakenly believes we can be useful, or not even truly believes that, but wants to make itself feel better by saying that.
>>29334804
Even Leonardo Da Vinci hadn't painted a masterpiece before he was 40.
Prodigies are rare. And the 10,000 hours isn't referring to excelling, it's becoming masterful or world class in a particular field.
I'm bumping dis here thread.
that would require a change in my genetic code, not yet possible
>>29331972
I have, in fact, transitioned into a fake Chad so to speak. I'm very successful outwardly, I'm charismatic and was president of one of the minor student councils in college. Inwardly I still like my vidya and anime and I'm a fat fuck but I wear heavy clothes so this isn't as noticeable. I'm kind of a vampire because I avoid going out and showing off too much during summer. I'm still a virgin, of course, but with my charismatic persona no one really knows and when the issue of virginity comes up in a conversation I have a set of stories on how I lost it. I could probably get laid if I really wanted to focus on it but I don't because 1. It would probably break down my facade and 2. I don't really want to deal with modern women.
If you have an outgoing and charismatic personality, you can fake to be Chad without much effort. You don't even need to get fit to do it.
>>29332185
>take out loans
Dave Ramsey is laughing at you
>>29332005
This, I find that all this stuff about beta, alpha, chad, stacie, cucked, etc etc has influenced my thinking to a point where stuff like that is a mainstay part of my thought process, and it's not a healthy view of the world at all. Better get out of here desu senpai
>>29332405
Pure willpower
>>29337374
I guess I'm fucked then. I've got none.
>>29337496
Everyone has willpower. You just need to activate it. Some are lazier than others but of course you can find it in you to do, or not do, something.
>>29337496
Make a conscious effort to be more positive in your life. And when I say positive, I don't mean 'peace and love the world is great!' bullshit that women post on FB. You have to start reminding yourself every so often that you are the master of your own life, and that the only thing holding you back is yourself. The world offers itself to you and you only get as much as you can take. Like say wheneber you take a shower, talk to yourself and get yourself pumped up about grabbing the world by the balls. I know it sounds stupid, but if you make a conscious effort to be more of a go-getter, you'll start to notice a change in your underlying attitude about life.
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