What was so cool about the 90s ? I'm too young to remember that decade (I was born in 94) so I'd like to know.
It must have been a terrible decade for robots (Internet wasn't "big" til the last 90s) and, from what I've seen, videogames were shit and people who keep talking about Doom and Pokemon Yellow are blinded by nostalgia to me.
No internet and minimal video games was a good thing. People actually went outside and did stuff together. In comparison our culture now is full autism.
There was internet back in the 90's, it really begun to push into the mainstream around half way through the decade and thats when a lot of people started to get it, although the connection was shit. A lot of robots had internet (I myself did when I was a robot kid)
pokemon was actually great back then because you would wake up on saturday morning and watch the latest episode, trade cards and collect them and play the game and all at the same time other kids did so it gave a sense of inclusion.
>>29277767
>No Internet was a good thing
So let's say that, you can't browse Internet anymore and this until the end of your life.
How fucked are you ?
How the hell was it a good thing for people like us ?
>>29277767
>People actually went outside and did stuff together. In comparison our culture now is full autism.
You're implying, that autism is a social construct, anon.
>>29277515
>videogames were shit in the 90s
Monkey Island and basically all great LucasGames adventures? Great strategy games like The Settlers II or Anno 1602.. Dungeon Keeper? Baldur's Gate?
>>29277831
You were forced to be social if you didn't want to be bored out of your mind.
Just me not being able to browse the internet does nothing. But if everybody can't browse the internet then it changes the culture. The most exciting thing you can do is no longer netflix and chill. Autists would interact with each other in real life and form lasting friendships.
>>29277515
I had a mastersystem c64 snes and a ps1
video games were great
my school got the internet in 95 I kept pestering my parents for it but they didn't understand it, I got an modem in 98 for Christmas
>>29277915
But what are you talking about ? People still go out. Drive downtown on a saturday night, nightclubs and bars are full of Staceys and students getting tipsy and shit.
>>29277947
Only the normies do that. Anybody you would care to hang out with is at home playing video games.
>>29277970
Yeah so basically it must have been a horrible time being a robot in the 90s.
>can't go outside
>nothing to do at home
Who remember ls the Y2K craze that went on in our schools? I remember all the computers having stickers on them saying "Y2K safe"
My school had those different colored macs with the rounded monitor? y'all remember?
>>29277515
>suddenly hot day
>parents take you to McDonalds for lunch even though they never eat in the town because its cheaper to get the sunglasses and a meal then to buy a pair of sunglasses on their own
>everyone in town wearing these badboys
>>29278001
>his autist brain still can't comprehend this
brah I think you might be retarded
>>29278001
then you go outside duh
>>29278001
videogames
things were cheaper so your pocket money would last a day
you probably had a hobby like drawing or building something useless
>>29278061
>>29278070
>social anxiety and lack of self esteem are social constructs
Back to your subreddit guys.
>>29278104
>I walk up to the arcade, what up I have social anxiety and want to go home XD!
>>29278104
I had THREE friends in the 90s as an autist that I hung out with all the time. I would call them best friends. I have zero now.
>he thinks the internet enabling his autism is actually a good thing
>>29277515
>videogames were shit
LMAO
>>29278104
they are, you would likely not have developed them under other conditions
social anxiety and depression are just cries for attention
>>29278021
they need to bring them back
>>29278145
>depression is a cry for attention
>if it wasn't for Internet you wouldn't develop social anxiety
Wow the 90s were really that cool. People totally started comiting suicide in the 2000s.
>>29277515
Just being a kid was probably the best thing about the 90s. Being an adult sucks.
No Tumblr, no hardcore feminists, furries,or 100 genders
>>29277767
You're a fucking idiot, and the reason is simple: before the internet people watched tv, before tv read books... If anything, we are now more social than ever, even if it is over the web (yes, that does count as social contact).
In all epochs humans were as obsessed with dicks and poons as we are now, and people always were silly. The autism was always with us, it merely got a new medium.
>>29278170
>I base my personality and existence on what medical condition I have
>the reason why I haven't lived my life is because I am anxious for no reason at all
I feel like the late 80s/early 90s would have been the sweet spot, technologically speaking. It's modern enough for me, but internet and cell phones don't consume our lives, and make everything so convenient and make everything lose it's value by doing so.
But yeah some of the pop culture from that time period looks like shit. I guess a lot of it still is now but idk
>>29278246
It's not about me for fucks sake
You were literally saying that "(I) would likely not have developed (social anxiety and shit) under other conditions", which is completely wrong.
>>29277515
>It must have been a terrible decade for robots (Internet wasn't "big" til the last 90s)
Robots were relentlessly picked on, but they would find each other out and form their own groups of friends, in reality instead of online. They were bitter, but they weren't quitters.
Robots nowadays are just invisible. Their social needs are met by a computer and they ignore or detest each other in real life.
> and, from what I've seen, videogames were shit
There was more to life than video games.
>and people who keep talking about Doom and Pokemon Yellow are blinded by nostalgia to me.
Don't know anything about that shit. Video games were just a novelty when I was young. It wasn't something that you became mindlessly immersed in, to the point you gave up your social life.
And Pokemon was for fags.
>>29278222
There are different levels of autismo. Reading a book or watching tv is not going to ruin your life. Playing world of warcraft, posting on 4chan and fapping to anime porn is.
>>29278104
The thing is they had other socially awkward people to band together with, like that's where the 80's/90's NERD stereotype came from. Like Revenge of the Nerds or Freaks and Geeks. But now nerds have the internet to escape into and most never wanna leave.
I was born in 92 so I was a little kid but have memories of the music, the video games my cousin played, cartoons and the commercials that ran between those cartoons. Then I grew up a little in the mid 2000's and had a desktop to run home to when I was tired from socializing at school and didn't want to make the effort to be rebellious and sneak out of the house like a normal teen a few decades ago would have. My parents were over protective and internet made it easier to just submit cause hey, I can download songs I like, watch anime, message friends over MSN and talk with other people who are on websites designed to cater to my interests. The kids that were cool in my middle school/high school probably didn't have a desktop in their house would party and get fucked up together. Me and my friends would get on messenger and share random shit, then talk about that same shit at school while goofing around. We were pretty childish compared to the rest when I look back.
I don't blame internet cause it helped me out a lot but I always wonder what kind of young adult I would have been without it.
>>29278276
If anything, I must admit that current pop culture is total shit but 90s culture didn't look that much good as well : unfunny teen sitcoms, strange videoclips, fashion trends...
>>29277515
I guess it is because there were many innovations spreading around that time - the internet and email, cell phones, cds/dvds, faster computers etc... Also the Soviet Union collapsed, so that was also a big thing. Remember things when you were small and compare it to now, the progress is astounding.
Technology had enough of a barrier to entry that it really was a huge opportunity for weirdos and enthusiasts while at the same time being obviously the next big thing and a cause for great enthusiasm.
Arcades and couch multiplayer made video games a fun neighborhood social activity.
Oil was cheap.
Music was amazing.
Culture had a healthy individualist skateboarder "push it to the limit" xtreeeem mentality.
There was still a reason to go places and do things before NetFlix and Amazon Prime, and computers were clunky and weird enough to be a meaty hobby.
Access to information was more limited, so there was more room for hope and imagination, the Cold War was over, the dotcom boom was rolling, everything was awesome.
We had all the awesome subcultures like goth and all the VR cyberpunk hype but it was edgy and scrappy and creative and fertile and substantive, not yet commodified crap.
Peak decade and best time ever to be alive.
>>29278190
There were furries m8. Also the gender shit was starting in fringe feminist circles. But yeah the average person hadn't heard of that concept yet.
>>29278145
Not sure if complete meltdown or b8?
>>29278317
>Watching tweens twerking to rap music and ridiculous reality tv shows isn't going to ruin your life
>Somehow browsing Facebook is
>>29278317
>implying there aren't people who obsess over books or TV
book fandoms, TV show fandoms
WoW has big potential to "ruin" your life, but using 4chin or anime porn is not gonna ruin your life.
>>29278145
abort yourself
or1g
Pop culture has always been shit in general, but as others noted, it wasn't always so commodified and centralized. There were a lot of smaller outlets in business and entertainment.
>>29278389
>he doesn't know facebook was invented by someone with social anxiety
>he doesn't know facebook is autistic socializing
The point is the amount of stimulation you could get back then vs now. Tv was just a glorified sports and cartoons channel back then.
>>29278440
true that, wow is the main reason I became neet
As someone who grew up in the 90s, I will say, regarding this generation, kids' tv shows seem like shit, the music is stale and boring, and the technological advancements have spoiled kids and taken all the zest out of life.
Which is probably what my parents thought of my generation.
It's kind of like 4chan. I think the golden age for the site as a whole (not /b/) was 2010-2012 cause I got here in 2009, but to some people it was dead years before then.
>>29278389
It all depends on your circle of friends, I used to be friends with someone until the started doing weed and posting it on Facebook
>>29278319
Born in 91 here. Totally get ya bro. I used AIM and remember playing Diablo 2 all summer with my nerd pals. battlenet was the shit.
>>29278440
>fap to anime porn
>no longer care to get a gf
>you are now officially weird
>4chan normalizes your autistic behaviour and encourages it
you underestimate the damage it does
>>29278473
>far more channels for shows
>far more outlets for music
>everyone I know literally has 3 or 4 bands that only they and 100 other people listen to
>>29278502
Half chan was kill in the gamergate incident, and now hotwheels sold us in jimchan... there's no god
>2012+4
>Still not understanding how Internet is bad for your brain
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25696775#
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26343546#
>>29278475
>tv was just a glorified sports and cartoon-
>stopped reading
>this faggot doesn't realize that people watches obsessively shows like twin peaks, homicide, NYPD Blue, Law and Order, Seinfeld, Friends, Buffy the vampire slayer, etc
>>29278558
>obsessively
>only on once a week
>>29278570
>>29278558
>>29278530
I didn't know making posts only using ">" was still a thing
>>29278530
>far more channels for shows
But owned by most of the same companies. A show like MST3K would never have found an audience or even a timeslot in modern tv.
>far more outlets for music
Greater access to music is certainly a positive change.
>everyone I know literally has 3 or 4 bands that only they and 100 other people listen to
Too bad those 100 are usually just as crap.
>>29278586
> still a thing
This is r9k what the hell are you talking about
>>29278614
Sorry I come here like twice a year
I seriously am considering killing myself like Aaron Schwartz or Ilya Zhitomirskiy. I was spoiled by the freedom of the net and seeing these PC/SJW exploitative glom onto it, dictate and destroy every community is killing me.
The media has a clear agenda to control the Internet and end freedom and they just keep pounding away on it.
>>29278628
Just migrate to other sites senpai
you shut your fucking mouth
Doom was and is the best game ever hands down
>>29278539
>unironically uses the term 1/2 channn
>doesn't recognize hamer hate a reddddd.it tier cause and boogeyman that needed to be banned
The former admin was right to drive you faggots away, just like with channnnnolo geeee
I can't speak to ate channnnn or haught wheeeeeelz (fucking spam filter), I don't go there
>>29278608
Things have only got more niche, dumbass. Doesn't matter what company owns them, they make diverse channels for diverse interests. There is to a of weird shit on today and online especially that NEVER would have found a place back then
>>29278699
>There is to a of weird shit on today and online especially that NEVER would have found a place back then
Like what ? We're listening.
>>29277515
>It must have been a terrible decade for robots (Internet wasn't "big" til the last 90s)
You don't understand.
That's exactly why it was good. The normies hadn't ruined it yet, it was a safe space for nerds, and the tech-inclined, and wealthy.
>>29277515
no, the internet was even better because no one used it for leisure. It didnt really get ruined by normies til the advent of smartphones brought facebook in harder than ever and made the internet a normie passtime. Lots of people wouldn't even know what the internet was and if they did they would think of things like wikipedia etc.
The 90s was cool as fuck.
Ask me anything about it
>>29278671
> assuming that I use the term half chan unironically
I just used it because A E S T H E T I C S
>>29278716
Not him but:
Bojack horseman
Mike Tyson mysteries
I mean I think they're pure crap personally but they never would have been aired 20 years ago
>>29278570
>people watched some of these shows 5 days a week in syndication
>taped episodes of the show and watched them over and over
All my friends did this, too. It was the norm.
>>29278741
Saying this and not using tor kek
>>29278741
But let's say you were a robot between 90/95.
Internet literally wasn't big at all and if ever you didn't know about it,
What the fucking fuck would you do in your freetime ? Today you can browse chans, watch shit with streaming websites, fap to hardcore porn and stuff. You just don't get bored.
What were robots doing in the 90s ? Even the ones who knew about Internet. A lot of people told me links would literally take minutes to load because of shitty connections.
>>29278528
>fap to anime porn
>no longer care to get a gf
not necessarily a bad thing.
being a normie is boring anyway.
>>29278475
>social anxiety
>creating a SOCIAL media platform for people you know
only fucking normies use facebook there is no reason for a robot to have one.
>>29278528
sounds like a failed normie to me
robots have allways been what normies would call failiers from birth
>>29277515
>What was so cool about the 90s
The Yugoslav Wars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOGk_IWlPrc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U67MRAPKXzU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-EQJA8Ahac
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM-T9j2UGXc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RdftnURWBs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUbCp2WgkYw
>>29278827
If you are a beta in highschool it's way easier to talk to a qt via Facebook than face to face
>>29278741
>the fucking phone meme
Maybe the phones reached the last turbo pleb grandma, but by 2000, all the chads and Stacies at my school were using the internet for all kinds of reasons. I got bullied on myspace frequently, bullied in chat rooms by them. I was in an online fantasy baseball league with them, I would discuss tv with some of the normies on various forums we all frequented, we all used neopets, etc. There were chads who would download whole seasons of Buffy and watch them.
Normies were on the internet for all the same reasons long before the phones. Anytime someone says that, I know they're underage, or clueless.
>>29278190
>no hardcore feminists or furries
very very very wrong
>>29278827
i use it for posting shit i like mainly to remind myself, i have nop care in chatting
>>29278860
>seriously wanting a gf
normie
>>29278801
No one really had internet until around '95. Pre-'95 internet was too slow to really use much. I remember being at a friends house around '91 and using the internet for the first time. I took us several hours to download one pic from playboy.
>>29278801
Just because the internet wasn't as big doesn't mean I want using it. It was just an underground hobby and I preferred it that way.
>>29278789
What? Why should I use tor to say that?
>>29278875
Used to before I realized that I had a better chance playing the sims
>>29278863
>Normies were on the internet for all the same reasons long before the phones. Anytime someone says that, I know they're underage, or clueless.
yes. By 2000 everyone was on the internet. Mid 90's though, the internet was pretty much only for hard core nerds.
>>29278863
If you are too young to remember it clearly why are you posting about it?
>>29278884
You will never see a normie in deep web and all the rejected faggots that are too autistic to even lurk 4 chan go there also reliable news it's like the 2000 before youtube
>teens back then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxs97RpkgmE
>teens now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avwrL9syLvc
HOLD ME
>>29278881
Before Internet were BBSes which were god tier also. In fact, I think I liked BBSes most of all.
>finding obscure BBS numbers to dial into was an awesome hobby
>each BBS was unique and weird
>daily time limits (only 30-60 minutes allotted each day) made them have value
>it was hard but possible to find porn on them
Good times
Does anyone remember just sitting down and listening to a radio station for a couple hours?
There's really no point in doing that anymore. I don't blame kids for not doing it but I do wonder if they're missing something.
>>29278960
both god damn subhumans
pic related is kids in 1915
>>29278960
As an oldfag who was an actual teen in the 90s, I can assure you little if anything has changed.
>>29278989
I remember TAPING the radio when I was a kid.
>>29278955
I'm 31 m8.
We had different experiences I suppose, but everyone from my school would tell you the same thing I did.
Of course, I grew up in a nice upper middle class white area, not too many Tyrones to drag the average down.
>>29279002
You wouldn't see preteen bitches shaking their butts on TV back then.
Also, nignog language wasn't popular. "Swag, skurrr" I mean what does "Banji" even mean
I miss the 90s. Shit was so cash.
Shit, I'm too old to be here. I actually remember using BBS. And raves, when that shit was actually cutting edge
>>29278911
True. But usually when people post the phone mean they mean 2007, when the iPhone came out.
And as we both have said, normies had reached the internet by 2000 easily
>>29279027
>Also, nignog language wasn't popular.
HipHop has been popular w/ white kids since the early 80s. I promise you we had rap records, and hoes, and blunts and all that back in the 90s anon.
>>29278962
did you fap to it together?
>>29279027
Tv has changed. But actual teen culture hasn't that much. It's still just as sex filled and degenrate
>>29279040
>raves
The only guy in my freshman dorm who had the internet was a raver who used it for rave message boards and mailing lists.
I was a normie, so I don't even know what BBS is.
>>29279083
So what ?
>Hip hop back then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRSWsOUiVOE
>Hip hop now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6j4f8cHBIM
>>29279017
Me too. I have over 100 tapes filled with songs and talk show shit.
I even compiled the funniest/coolest bits onto one tape once and made 100 copies. Then I printed up adds at a copy place and posted them around town advertising the tape. Only ended up selling 46 copies but still, made me feel good m8.
>>29279120
You said nignog language wasn't popular. It was. I know. I was there.
I'll definitely give you rap being better back then though.
who here /printedoutmapquestdirections/?
>>29279171
who here got directions passed down from memory?
>>29279140
Back when mixtapes where cool unironically
>>29278741
Internet was meh in the 90s and godlike from around 2003 to 2009. It's been shit ever since Kikebook, Twatter and various forms of social media became popular. It was truly a time when the internet was a robot and cyborg's paradise. Chads only used it for Calladooty and Stacies often enough didn't have computers.
Prove me wrong.
>>29279201
Mix tapes where a big deal. Esp making mix tapes for girls.
>>29279226
>Chads only used it for Calladooty and Stacies often enough didn't have computers.
Pure nerd delusional nostalgia.
>>29278863
Phone isn't the problem. Social media is. Chatrooms, online communities etc are nothing new and were actually kind of cool. Social media on the other hand is cancer. It made everything unnecessarily connected. I regret ever getting kikebook.
>>29278190
>90's
>no furries
You are so very fucking wrong. FurryMuck went live in 1990, and Furcadia in 1996.
Consider how advanced those two things were for their time.
Furfaggotry might not have been known to the masses, but it in some ways it was at its peak back then.
Why do you think there were so many furfag cartoons? It was the hot new thing in LA subculture.
>>29279268
Yeah but myspace was almost as cancerous as facebook and the normie youngsters were on that
I regret not learning from my myspace days and getting on facebook too. If I could take it all back...
>>29279268
>Chatrooms
>Online communities
>Not social medias
Mc???
>>29279375
Almost but luckily it didn't spread far. Businesses and government agencies weren't literally coercing you to use it and making it a necessity. One could easily survive without myspace. Not having facebook these days is like not having a phone number.
>>29279376
They aren't. You aren't yourself on them, you can be NiggerKiller123. They are anonymous in effect just like this place. Sure you could get to know people but you could easily not reveal too much or bullshit things.
>>29279250
>we grrrrrls were always here and are reclaiming the Internet XD
Bug off you stupid cunt
>>29279492
I'm a dude. I'm old. And you're wrong.
>>29279250
Lmao, nope. Just 10 years ago a Stacy would call you a nerdy computer guy if you had a computer. Now every Stacy has a laptop, phone, whatever.
>>29279468
>Not having facebook these days is like not having a phone number.
That's a good point, actually
>>29279525
Literally this
>Tfw I went from being "le strange nerd with the computer" to a normal guy because of this
>>29279525
Every fucking human under 70 in the US had a computer in 2003 anon.
>>29279525
>10 years ago
Nigga all the Stacies would bully me on myspace and chat rooms years before 2006.
>>29278021
>Neon sunglasses
A e s t h e t i c
Normies weren't shitting videogames.
Even mainstream rock and metal was still edgy.
Feminists didn't control the media yet.
Kids were still allowed to play outside.
Nobody got pissed if you weren't online or didn't answer your phone.
Morons who can't figure out how the internet works literally can't get online because they're too stupid to do so.
I remember when Columbine happened. I was in high school at the time. It was so fucking exciting.
Now it's just routine. And none of the shooters have that magic quality like eric and dylan did.
>>29279525
>10 years ago
It was 2006 what the hell are you talking about, everyone was getting in the YouTube band wagon
>>29279601
Neon was actually much more of an 80s thing.
>>29279621
>feminists didn't control the media yet
Oh yes they did! Feminist ideals have been implemented in media since the 70s m8.
>>29277515
Pokemon was pretty great, especially being a kid in the 90's and early 2000's
>you will never be a kid trading pokemon cards in class again
>you will never feel the excitement of a link cable battle on the playground again
>you will never enjoy pokemon the same way again
I finally got around to buying pokemon Black a few months ago, and I still haven't played it. The last one I enjoyed was Soul Silver, because it was like reliving my childhood on Silver version
just kill me
>>29279621
>mainstream rock and metal was still edgy
Don't do this to my sides
>>29279566
Now now you're back to being le strange nerd because no one uses computers anymore, they only use their smartphones
>>29279654
Early to mid 90's was essentially an extended 80's, we still had great Arnie flicks, Saved By the Bell was huge and bright colours were everywhere
>>29279621
>Normies weren't shitting videogames.
yes, they where
>Even mainstream rock and metal was still edgy.
HELL no. Not edgy at all. This is revisionist history.
>Feminists didn't control the media yet
I would argue that what exists today isn't really media. But yeah, back when there actually was mainstream media, it was much more sane.
>Kids were still allowed to play outside.
True.
>Nobody got pissed if you weren't online or didn't answer your phone.
People got pissed if you didn't answer your phone.
>
Morons who can't figure out how the internet works literally can't get online because they're too stupid to do so.
i think this only really applied to senior citizens. Any fucking retard could figure out AOL or whatever.
>>29279691
Save by the Bell was the very early 90s. Neon was biggest mid-80s around when Madonna blew up. Again, I'm old.
>>29279621
> morons who can't figure out how the internet works
You mean the handicapped??
>>29279552
I managed to last up to late 2015 with no facebook. Feels good man.
>>29279566
Stacies have me as their go-to computer guy whenever something isn't working. They're surprised I don't just reinstall the whole thing. A lot of my computerbros back from high school ended up PC repairmen because while Chads and Stacies can certainly use a computer at this point they're completely braindead when it comes to simple mechanical things regarding it.
>>29279581
You sure you don't mean 25-30+ year old women?
>>29279570
Most -families-. These days every single person has at least a laptop, phone or iPad but back then it was usually families using a single computer. I've had a PC of my own without parental interference since I was 10 though.
>>29279621
Literally this. I remember when I could safely go outside to late hours of night, up to 10 PM at night and my parents wouldn't bitch at me. How could they? There was no phone and thus no helicoptering concept, at least not as bad as it is right now.
>>29279648
You're joking right? Youtube in 2006 was all CDI Youtube Poops, anime music videos and edgy metal music videos. Faggot streamers and vloggers like the WHATS HAPPENING FORUM spic weren't a thing until early 2010.
mullets
>>29279772
>tfw you remember buying the issue of Grand Royal magazine in which 'mullet' was coined.
>>29279756
Nope, I mean teenage Stacies. The girls at my high school. It wasn't anonymous or anything. They even printed one of our conversations and posted it around school.
Nothing. It's all nostalgia.
>>29279756
I mean even the news reported funny videos of YouTube in 2006 the faggotry that was cat videos and le dad fail compilations
>>29279804
Kek. Your fault for not being anonymous. I've always known to keep my online life separate from my real life. Like completely separate. I've autistically made up several false identities.
>>29279804
Anyone who doesn't think teenage girls where on the internet/social media by 2003 is young as fuck.
>>29279846
That wasn't a common thing, people became paranoid after Snowden
>>29279846
Most successful adults have little to no social media presence.
Like Charles Barkley says, 'Social media is for losers'.
>>29279865
*weren't
typo, my bad
>>29279893
>'Social media is for losers'.
Pretty much. most professionals I know don't have much more than a LinkedIn page.
>>29277515
All I remember as a kid was everyone being a drunk and getting fucked up on drugs while living in poverty.
>>29279756
It depends how rich you were. Every other kid at my high school had a laptop.
>>29279815
Right? That guy is delusional
>What was so cool about the '90s?
It was a more tolerant era, similar to the '60s and '70s. Lots of youth culture based around the resurrection of peace and cultural unity. Incidentally, Cold War tensions were starting to die down, so households generally weren't as concerned about being vaporized in a nuclear holocaust as earlier generations were.
I have no idea where '90s culture came from, but it might have been the product of the later generation of baby boomers passing on their values on to the next generation. It's strange, because the '80s saw such a rapid increase in hard drugs and gang violence. Even though that shit went on into the '90s, it wasn't at the forefront of public awareness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMd92V9qM7k
Just by listening you should figure that this composition could only have been made between the years 1989 and 1994.
>>29277515
It was actually great for stereotypical robots because of the dotcom bubble. Any IT knowledge and you could make money even as a shut in.
movies were great. Video games were fucking shit and the Internet was slow as fuck.
>>29279972
>I have no idea where '90s culture came from,
It was the maturation of 80s indie culture.
>>29279846
Well I learned the hard way
>>29279888
Nigga it happened to me in 2001/2002. I remember in 2004 high schools across the country were getting lectures about personal online safety and privacy, and all my friends had fake accounts on various websites.
If you think this started wih Snowden you are young as hell
Well I think it depends on the country you have born, your family, how old you were at moment, lot of circunstances...
IIRC I pretty much watched LOTS of cartoon on tv and played moderately (increasing...) ps1 and some pc titles. But i never had real friends. I moved often from countries... I guess I never felt good enough to establish and renew my self as a kid on a different culture. Sad.
>>29279945
that sounds like now though
Worst pop culture in decades but as >>29279972 said it was a much more tolerant era than today, especially the 2010s (the 00s was an ok time tbqh)
Nowadays people seem vapid and only care about themselves.
>>29279865
Anyone who thinks social media in it's present state was around in 2003 is young as fuck. Chatrooms were a very, very private thing. It was you and a few buddies, or on the rare case an 'open chat room' where desperate ones go to meet up.
>>29280070
>Nowadays people seem vapid and only care about themselves.
People where vapid and only cared about themselves back then too anon.
There aint nothing new under the sun.
>>29280026
I guess that my school couldn't afford that talk but apart from that everyone that lurked and new about wank new that they were being watched
>>29280070
00s were, in fact, some of the best times. Who agree?
>>29280072
Anon, everyone under 30 had a Friendster page by 2003. Again, some of us are old. This is first hand knowledge.
>>29280070
That's not about when you grew up. Things seem better as a kid, get more soulless as an adult. That's a life thing.
>>29280101
If you were old enough to remember these days you'd know it's true.
I cant' put words on it but nowadays people are vapid and selfish like they probably never were during the 20st century.
>>29279865
When I was in middle school one of the girls in our computer class had an internet boyfriend that was a few years older than her and she would talk about him all the time, the more I think about it now it was creepy as fuck.
>>29280133
Just ask older adults around you m8. Even 50-60yo fuckers can tell it was different til (around) the mid/late-2000s
>>29280147
I went to high school in the 90s anon. Nothing has really changed.
>>29280128
Early 2000s is when the 7th and 8th seasons of King of the Hill aired, the 2 best seasons of the show (maybe 4 is better idk) and perhaps the comfiest seasons of tv ever made.
Also when Malcolm in the Middle aired.
So yeah there's a case for it
>>29280128
Your mother, maybe
>>29280187
Life just gets more soulless and bitter as you age, so of course someone who is 60 now will think even the 90s were a little bit better, cause they were 40 then. Already bitter but not as much.
>>29280195
Oh a yo mama joke got'em
>>29280147
i think people today just got the means to act selfish and vapid publicly, if the older generations had facebook they would also act this way.
>>29277515
Nothing. It was absolute shit.
>>29279268
I miss the way the early internet was so anonymous as a whole and it was just kind of the nature of it. But at the same time those old communities were so welcoming. Everyone was cool with talking to complete strangers on IRC or web forums etc. No one got doxed. Now everything social media has to have your named attached to it unless you go out of your way to use throw away emails and shit
I think things were going fine until around 2003. That's when it started to sour, and after the housing crisis, it got much worse and never properly recovered.
Kiddies will tell me it's just nostalgia, but there is just something about modern life that seems so contrived and empty, like the third reboot of a franchise no one cares about.
>>29278136
What happened to them, anon?
I mean there are pros and cons to any decade, but idk if any are better or worse. The 90s meme is just a bunch of people who can't see past the nostalgia. Then kids who like some of the products from that era cling to the meme because they want to feel like a special wing generation snowflake. The 90s kids were largely the first group to dominate the internet so it's never going away, but people saying it's the best online doesn't mean it was the best. It's just an accident of history For the reasons I have just described.
>>29280352
You can always go to a third world country and live like you were in the 90s or 80s. Try it!
>>29280352
That's just becoming an adult anon. Ask someone who grew up in the 60s and they probably would have said the same thing during the 90s that you're saying about the 10s.
>>29280368
*wrong generation
Fucking original comment fuck the robot
>>29280391
Yep. I just turned 40. Nothing has really changed. In the 90s we were getting bombarded with Eisenhower era nostalgia. It sucked then too. Nostalgia is a mental illness.
>>29280391
Yeah the Titanic sinking and the Great War was total fun
Those fags talking about the good ol Clarissa Explains Shit and Hey Arnold don't know real fun
>>29280386
Yeah, okay kid.
>>29280391
50's and 60's were pretty class though, it seems.
I understand there's a nostalgia factor involved, but there seems to be more to it than that.
Growing up in the mid-eighties and early nineties, I think a greater degree of cultural awareness played a role in things. Kids weren't forced into such an insular understanding of the world - different people and different cultural viewpoints were represented all throughout the media. If you lived in the U.S., it already wasn't uncommon to be associated with families who had emigrated from other countries.
Nowadays, you have a youth culture that's divided between edgy neo-Nazi shit and tumblr social justice.
>>29280488
>I understand there's a nostalgia factor involved, but there seems to be more to it than that.
This. You're telling me that the 70/80/90s were amazing because you were a child back then ?
Well grew up in the late 00s and I can tell you, there was nothing special about the late 00s. Kikebook was already getting popular, shit music, selfish people everywhere.
>>29280368
>The 90s kids were largely the first group to dominate the internet so it's never going away, but people saying it's the best online doesn't mean it was the best.
You're right. We feel to what we are exposed. And those who dominated the internet media were young during the time. They created this social experiment we live in currently.
>>29280505
Uh no, cultural awareness was a joke. As a kid, America was the world and it felt like we were at the end of history.
>you have a youth culture that's divided between edgy neo-Nazi shit and tumblr social justice.
This isn't due to a lack of cultural awareness.
>>29278863
Except that when Chad kicks your ass now, the other Chad's record it in 1080p Ultra HD and upload to YouTube so literally the entire world is laughing at you, and doing so forever.
Remember the star wars kid?
>>29280352
Completely agreed. It's well represented by Star Wars Episode 7, female Ghostbusters and shit like that. It's why people from the 70s and 80s who grew up with Star Wars.. don't really care about Disney Wars.
>>29280316
I agree. A lot of the places were like 4chan. Sure, you had a username but that was the only thing attached to you. It's a good thing that it's hard for me to be located when literally none of my online accounts have anything related to my real life. The only exception is payment-type accounts but that's a necessity.
>>29280505
No. People pretty much wanted to be around people like themselves back then too. no one liked 'diversity' much back then either.
>>29280527
I was a child in the 80s/90s. It wasn't amazing. It wasn't much different then today.
It seemed like a more simple time to say the least. Everyone is living in fear of being shot if they go anywhere in todays society. I known there were shootings pre columbine but columbine started a fucking cancerous degree of edgelords shooting up places for stupid fucking reasons.
>>29280692
I was a child in the 80s/90s. It wasn't amazing, but it was pretty damn good and it was much better than what followed. I have to doubt your claim that you were a child of that time. Unless you're not an American.
>>29280692
Was a kid in the 90s and early 00s. It was pretty good. I was and still am an edgy metalhead that transitioned into classic/dad rock, but I have to admit the pop songs were actually catchy and decent. Nowadays I still get guilty pleasures like Shake it off but nigger songs about being a black Chad and having pussy and cash are much more commonplace. It's not even rap, but that was better too. Back then rap was about the genuine struggles of the black community and having to grow up in a life of crime. Now it's all glamorized like DRUGS SLUTS AND DOLLA DOLLAS
>>29280748
>It seemed like a more simple time to say the least
I'm a 40 year old American anon. Technology changes, but human nature does not. People who romanticize the past are delusional.
I've heard it said before that nostalgia is the first unintentional step towards fascism. That sounds about right to me.
>>29280475
>titanic
>great war
>60s
Holy shit m8
>>29280800
PUHleeze. 2Live Crew dropped in 80s. Same shit back then as is here now.
>>29280505
If anything everything is just being globalized
>>29280802
>I've heard it said before that nostalgia is the first unintentional step towards fascism. That sounds about right to me.
I hope to see it return back in full force.
t. fascist.
Yes, yes, I am at /pol/ as we speak as well no need to tell me to go back to it.
>>29278015
>My school had those different colored macs with the rounded monitor? y'all remember?
yep
>>29280802
>It seemed like a more simple time to say the least
Why quote something I never said?
>I'm a 40 year old American anon.
Yes, I'm sure you are.
>Technology changes, but human nature does not.
Nobody said human nature changed.
>People who romanticize the past are delusional.
Or normal.
>I've heard it said before that nostalgia is the first unintentional step towards fascism. That sounds about right to me.
I think maybe you're bullshitting about your age or you had a Welcome to the Dollhouse sort of childhood.
>>29280580
I mean sure although was the Star Wars kid recorded with a phone? That's now how I remember it but overall fine it does make that shit a little more accessible to be sure, but the overall point that normies were on the internet for most of the same reasons long before the phone still stands
>>29280827
>the 10s
You can't read for shit m8
The 90s was the last era where man had hope. We no longer hope for the future. We no longer look ahead and see brighter possibilities. We see only austerity, war and death.
That goes for everyone, normies included, who haven't drowned themselves in hedonism to escape the despair.
>>29280890
>or normal
>implying that contradicts the delusional label
>>29280917
I made the comment and when I said te 10s I meant the 2010s. It doesn't even really make sense as the 1910s.
>>29280940
Nah that's just called growing up
>>29280963
Nostalgia is perfectly normal and healthy. You might be the delusional one.
>>29277515
>video games were shit
stopped reading
>>29280626
Maybe they just grew up?
It's the same with episodes 1-3. All the adults hates it, but a lot of kids loved it. As someone who didn't see any of those films until I was 34 last year, I can tell you that they are all shit.
>>29281001
No it's not. I grew up in the 80's and 90's, but I still think fondly of the internet back around 2004-2007. Part of that might still be nostalgia, even though I was already grown up, but I think a bigger part of it is because internet culture seemed hopeful back in those days.
>>29281004
Nostalgia is delusional. Maybe a little delusion is even healthy. None of this contradicts.
But at the end of the day it's still delusion.
>>29281072
>part of that might be nostalgia
It's all of it. You may have been grown up but 20s are still more hopeful than 30s which are more hopeful than 40s etc.
>>29281056
thats just your opinion
I just recently saw a James Dean movie and it wasn't shit. You're just a spoiled little underageb% pls go
>>29281081
Simply looking back on something with fondness is not delusional, you retard.
>>29281113
I haven't seen James Dean, but nowhere did I make the claim that all old movies are shit. I'm really referring to big blockbuster franchises, most of those from any era really are shit to adults, unless they're blinded by nostalgia.
>that's just your opinion
Right, that's why I posted it. What's the point of this statement, exactly?
>underage
Nigga I'm in my mid 30s.
>>29281081
>comet hits the earth
>earth is blanketed in darkness for 20 years
"Running water and sunlight weren't all that great. You're just being deluded and nostalgic."
Anti-nostalgiacs are the delusional ones for believing all change is good or neutral.
>>29281173
You were 40 upthread.
>>29281127
No, it's not. But thinking some kids movie from back then is so much better than a kids movie today, 9 times out of 10, is. They're all shit, nostalgia is just blinding you.
It's fine to look back on it with fondness. As long as you can admit that if you hadn't seen it when you were a kid you probably wouldn't regard it any higher than any current shit.
A lot of people can't do this though, and I have actually seen 30 year olds argue with 9 year olds about why their generations entertainment was so much better.
It's just sad, really.
>>29281215
Not the same guy, m8. I'm the guy who was 34 when he saw Star Wars.
>>29281213
Kek, so much this
>>29281173
I know what its like for people to be blinded by nostalgia. There are people that still prefer the English version to dragon ball z when the Japanese is known to be far superior.
>>29281213
Good fucking night, drama queen.
Of course stuff like that matters.
Mindless kiddie entertainment doesn't.
>>29281217
>No, it's not. But thinking some kids movie from back then is so much better than a kids movie today, 9 times out of 10, is. They're all shit, nostalgia is just blinding you.
Because they're not nostalgic for the movie itself but the experience of watching it. It may impair their judgement of the movie, but it doesn't mean they're delusional.
>It's fine to look back on it with fondness.
That's nostalgia, which you think is delusional.
>As long as you can admit that if you hadn't seen it when you were a kid you probably wouldn't regard it any higher than any current shit.
I've revisited many films I grew up with. Some were worse than I remembered, some were better. Generally speaking, films are worse nowadays. I say that not as an old fogie, but as a filmmaker.
>A lot of people can't do this though, and I have actually seen 30 year olds argue with 9 year olds about why their generations entertainment was so much better.
>It's just sad, really.
That is sad, but it's still better.
>>29281253
Nah, that's not the same thing. Thinking a talking bear from when you grew up is better than the ones kids have today is delusional 9 times out of 10. Usually they're about the same in quality, yet I have seen people argue with 9 year olds about this shit to death. Honestly, myself included until a few years ago.
A talking bear is neutral.
ST:TNG was the best of the series and that is a fact. Anyone who disagrees is a nigger.
>>29281241
Oh well, 34 year olds aren't precluded from being morons.
>>29281331
Well fondness leads To delusion when they let it impair their judgement, can we agree on that?
The reality is, even if you can escape the way you saw movies as a kid to some extent, you can never fully escape it. Some guy admitted to me that Star Wars wasn't as good as he remembers, but the original is still 100 times better than 1-3.
Well, me and 2 other guys I met who saw none of them til we were adults don't think there's much of a difference between the two trilogies.
So yeah you can never be fully unclouded by your nostalgia lens. Even if you think some movies are now shit, I guarantee if you saw those same movies as an adult for the first time you would think they were even shittier.
>>29281384
>calls me a moron
Not an argument
Sometimes I wonder what it was like to have grown up in Orange County during the third wave ska boom.
>>29281444
>Well fondness leads To delusion when they let it impair their judgement, can we agree on that?
No, because impaired judgement is not delusion. You can have a few drinks and that will impair your judgement, but no one would say it makes you delusional.
>The reality is, even if you can escape the way you saw movies as a kid to some extent, you can never fully escape it.
Wha?
>Some guy admitted to me that Star Wars wasn't as good as he remembers, but the original is still 100 times better than 1-3.
>Well, me and 2 other guys I met who saw none of them til we were adults don't think there's much of a difference between the two trilogies.
Maybe they don't understand anything about films. I don't care.
>So yeah you can never be fully unclouded by your nostalgia lens. Even if you think some movies are now shit, I guarantee if you saw those same movies as an adult for the first time you would think they were even shittier.
Frankly I'm bored to death of Star Wars but I can still recognize the level of craft in the first two films, and it's a level rarely touched in modern Hollywood.
>>29281363
>It's not the same thing because I said so !
Holy shit
>>29281375
Both ds9 and the original series are better
>>29280890
Why would I lie about my age? Are you maybe attacking that because your overall point is ridiculous?
>>29280856
>Yes, yes, I am at /pol/ as we speak
of course you are Anon. Of course you are.
>>29281550
I don't think you know what delusions means. Or maybe I don't. Fine, let's say distorted view then.
>wha?
What I mean is, you can never fully unsee it the way you saw it as a kid. You'll realize how cheesy some of the dialogue is but the way you saw it as a kid will still influence the way you see it as an adult to some degree. It's undeniable.
>don't know anything about films
>nothing today can touch Star Wars
Oh that's rich! The dialogue is horrible, the acting for the most part is mediocre, the story is uninteresting, the pacing is bad, the special effects were probably cool as fuck back then but are outdated now. Visually it's uninteresting, though some of the sand dunes are pretty.
Really, nothing special about those movies. They were probably fun as a hell to 70s/80s kids but they haven't aged well.
>>29281001
Yep. 100% true. Nothing has really changed.
>>29281654
Because you sound like teenager.
>>29281579
>ignores my entire argument and tries to frame it in a way that any half-intelligent person will see through
Holy shit!
>>29281004
>Nostalgia is perfectly normal and healthy.
To a degree it is. But when it's wistfulness as a worldview, it's crazy asshole time.
>>29280856
>Yes, yes, I am at /pol/ as we speak
That's pretty much what I expected
>>29281689
At this point I'll take that as a compliment.
>>29281666
>those trips!
But c'mon anon. This board is far more fedora than /pol/ and we both know it
>>29281789
>This board is far more fedora than /pol/ and we both know it
True. fedora + hillbilly = /pol/
>>29281682
>I don't think you know what delusions means. Or maybe I don't. Fine, let's say distorted view
Distorted works.
>What I mean is, you can never fully unsee it the way you saw it as a kid. You'll realize how cheesy some of the dialogue is but the way you saw it as a kid will still influence the way you see it as an adult to some degree. It's undeniable.
So what though? What if I rewatch a movie I loved as a kid and then said it was terrible? Have I failed to escape my perception of seeing it as a kid? Is it even worse than terrible, and in fact a crime of nature? Everyone is biased in some way. It doesn't make one delusional, and it doesn't mean all opinions are worthless.
>Oh that's rich! The dialogue is horrible, the acting for the most part is mediocre, the story is uninteresting, the pacing is bad, the special effects were probably cool as fuck back then but are outdated now. Visually it's uninteresting, though some of the sand dunes are pretty.
All of these are non-criticisms.
>Really, nothing special about those movies. They were probably fun as a hell to 70s/80s kids but they haven't aged well.
Hollywood blockbusters live in their shadow.
>>29281818
>Anyone who has views that the liberal mainstream media hasn't approved of is an evil hillbilly
M8 I grew up in a middle class neighborhood in the city. Unlike most people on this NEET board, I have a job where I make 48 grand a year (good for this board anyway). /pol/ is always right
>people ITT actually think the internet wasn't full of normies anytime after 2000
Easiest way to detect underage retards
>>29281855
Hilarious. Anon I'm rich and a conservative, and I think pol is a bunch of provincial retards.
>>29281901
They were full of normies in the late 90's as I remember it, but it was more segregated. It wasn't until the late 00's that internet culture became mainstream.
>>29281901
OP here, I literally said I can't remember the early 2000s since I was born in fucking 94 you acoustic nigger
>>29277515
>he was born in '94 but didn't play Pokemon
What kind of shitty childhood did you have m8? Pokemon was still in full swing until the mid-00s
>>29281906
>I think pol is a bunch of provincial retards.
Pretty mkuch. Anyone who source of pride is where they were born or what color there skin is, is most likely a pretty big loser.
Basically the majority of pol and the people who think like that. they'll go on and on about muh white pride, yet everyone in their community is 250+lbs. It's literally a moron echo chamber.
>>29277767
t.grandpa
Originals
>>29281844
>to parents pockets investigative overddose couch stay here dragged into it more
Probably to some extent still. It's just hard to remove the "baggage" of childhood. I myself am guilty of it.
True everyone is biased in some way, but there is something rather special about the childhood lens.
It doesn't make one delusional for enjoying it, or their opinions about it worthless, but the childhood lens has to be acknowledged. If I argued that my kiddie cartoons were better than the ones today, I'd have to acknowledge my views are distorted by the childhood lens. That has to be acknowledged.
>all of these are non-criticisms
How are these non-criticism? What do you think criticism is exactly? I guess I can't get that specific cause I only saw them all once but still m8.
>hollywood blockbusters live in their shadow
undoubtedly they have been a major influence on succeeding films but so what? it doesn't mean the succeeding films are any better or worse. they're all just fun entertainment for kids. undoubtedly star wars was influenced by a number of things, it doesn't mean it's inherently better or worse than its influences.
>>29281954
I started with Emerald. Tried to play Yellow and Golden/Silver after that but it looked outdated and glitchy as fuck
>>29281939
Not talking about you, you moron, just about some of the retards in this thread
>>29281939
>you acoustic nigger
mfw
>>29281906
there's a lot of shitposting on /pol/ m8, but there is intelligent and hilarious discussion. you just gotta be willing to sit through some bantz.
>>29281961
It can be a source of pride, but even more important is preserving the white race, the crowing achievement of evolution besides the Ashkenzai Jews. This is undeniable.
It's also undeniable that there is a plan to genocide whites by means of creating social and economic conditions that discourage whites to have kids, and overrun white countries with shitskins to outbreed us.
The Jews will be safe in Israel, and it will be easier to bend the minorities to their will than it was whites.
>>29278330
That was well written. Good job.
>>29282003
>to parents pockets investigative overddose couch stay here dragged into it more
fuck me copied the wrong thing from the wrong thread meant to quote here:
>Have I failed to escape my perception of seeing it as a kid
>>29282104
Nigga go for a walk. The Jews have no central committee. You sound like a ranting idiot neckbeard.
>>29282104
>muh white genocide
Every time (pic related)
>>29277515
There was more color than in the 00s and 10s.
>>29282170
>the jews have no central committee
Oh c'mon, what do you think Bildeberg is? True it's not just Jews but who do you think is running the show?
>>29278343
>>29279354
>early early internet furfaggotry
Disney doomed us all there was no escape from the very beginning. Why didn't you try to stop it?
>>29282170
>>29282210
These aren't arguments guys. I'm still waiting for actual arguments.
>>29282221
No one entity you fucking dipshit. Rich powerful people of varied backgrounds with varied interests.
>>29282239
Nigga no one is going down your your muh jews neckbeard rabbit hole.
>>29282262
It's the Jews who are the brain child behind it and who have the leverage. The others are willing to work with them out of mutual self-interest but the they couldn't care less about white genocide one way or the other. The Jews actively pursue it.
Did the film Lost in Translation inspire a generation of weebs to go out and live in Tokyo?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4wCIiwa6DU
>>29282239
Go circle jerk back at your containment board anon.
>>29282286
so why reply at all? seems like you're still trying to dismiss me without actually arguing. clearly you care. you just are acting like you don't cause you couldn't argue.
>>29278001
You went over to your friends to play your autistic shit together because you had no computer to play with.
Table top games, board games, rpgs, talk about nerd shit, etc
We painted little metal figures and memorized rule books for that shit because you couldn't get instant entertainment with zero effort all alone.
And you know what? It was probably good for us.
>>29282293
Again with The Jews. Like they all know each other and are working in concert. Smh.
>>29282316
Nigga this was a thread about the 90s prior to your neckbeard nonsense.
>>29282303
>le containment board may-may
technically if I start talking about food or anime I am not on the board designated for such discussion. but it doesn't irritate your liberal conditioning so you don't care. really your concern is not purity of topic but an unwillingness to confront ideas that make you uncomfortable.
no one on /pol/ cares when there's off topic discussion, as long as it happened naturally. /pol/ is used to seeing stuff they don't like. they are stronger than 4chan as a whole.
>>29282368
Dude. Sounds like you and pol are a perfect match.
>Thread is about the 90s culture
>/pol/tard comes
>Suddenly it's all about how the Jews want to destroy the white race
This is almost art at this point.
>>29282329
it's not ALL jews but it's always jews if you get my point
>>29282346
I'm not the one who brought up /pol/, nor am I the one who called them fedora hillbillies.
>>29282392
I know. It's pretty hilarious. They literally don't think they sound like ranting neckbeards.
>>29282392
not how it went down see:
>>29282392
Anyone who gets so anally anguished by someone discussing white genocide on a topicless board would probably feel safer on redd.itttt or tumbbbblrr
>>29282003
>Probably to some extent still. It's just hard to remove the "baggage" of childhood. I myself am guilty of it.
So you're projecting mostly? It's not that big of a problem for other people. I can differentiate between the music and films I like because of nostalgia, the ones I like for their quality, and the ones I like for both. And growing up has deepened my appreciation for a lot of movies I saw as a kid.
>True everyone is biased in some way, but there is something rather special about the childhood lens.
How about the indigestion lens? Not as special?
>It doesn't make one delusional for enjoying it, or their opinions about it worthless, but the childhood lens has to be acknowledged.
Sure, but it's not that extreme. Your average person doesn't care about movies beyond a social function they serve.
> If I argued that my kiddie cartoons were better than the ones today, I'd have to acknowledge my views are distorted by the childhood lens. That has to be acknowledged.
What, is this like acknowledging one's privilege? Bunch of bullshit. If your opinion is warped by nostalgia, someone might call you out on it and you'll have to defend your view. Shouldn't take long to figure it out from there.
>How are these non-criticism?
You're not addressing the content of the film in any meaningful way, and it amounts to little more than "I didn't like it."
>undoubtedly they have been a major influence on succeeding films but so what? it doesn't mean the succeeding films are any better or worse. they're all just fun entertainment for kids.
Being fun entertainment for kids doesn't make them any less worthy of consideration.
>undoubtedly star wars was influenced by a number of things, it doesn't mean it's inherently better or worse than its influences.
It makes them worthy of consideration and they're probably more special than much of what they influenced.
>>29282414
you don't realize you sound like a mindless liberal sheep
>robot
>calling anyone a neckbeard
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>29282399
Go stormfag out elsewhere. You've done nothing but enforce the fedora hillbilly stereotype.
>>29282424
Why can't I rant about white genocide in an innocuous thread about 90s culture? Is this communist China? I blame the Jews.
>>29282424
>>29282399
>>29282368
>>29282239
>>29282221
GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY TOPIC YOU MISERABLE TWAT
>>29282432
It is a problem for most people though, they just don't realize it. You can differentiate to some extent but not entirely, whether you realize it or not.
>indigestion lens
hilarious.
>not that extreme
it is though. it doesn't have real life importance but when people actively discuss movies, it must be acknowledged in that context
>privilege
not the same thing, as one is usually imaginary and the nostalgia effect is real. And people DO call each other on it and people refuse to to admit that their little kiddie cartoon isn't perfect. they can feel the same fondness for it but when I see some fat neckbeard arguing with a nine year old about how his generations cartoons suck I sort of start to think there is a problem and we would be better off putting our nostalgic biases on the table
>not addressing the content of the film
fair enough. I don't remember it that well, just remember thinking those general thoughts
>any less worthy of consideration
well it does when an adult says kids movies these days aren't as good as the ones from back then. the point is they're meant for kids, don't make them anything more or less than they are. if these people didn't have the distorted nostalgia lens they could see this.
>more special than much of what they influenced
maybe, but it doesn't say much
>>29279772
Isn't this more an '80s thing?
>>29282449
you don't know what hillbilly means, do you?
How about you actually debate my points. If not, why bother responding at all?
>>29282488
I said no such thing. Not an argument
>>29282500
/r9k/ threads derail all the time. people only get mad when it's something that triggers them
>video games were shit
>90's
delete your comment and your life, OP
>>29282578
Nah. Really more of an early 90s thing.
>>29278170
wow depressed people have a blue brain it all makes sense now :^)
>>29282606
For the 2nd time anon. No one is engaging your pol neckbeard nonsense. Fuck off.
>>29282606
blah blah blah blah blah (pic related)
>>29282222
no one is gonna check these sick digits?
>>29282643
That's just good science anon.
>>29282649
you still are though. people are making shallow posts to try to dismiss my points but not making actual arguments. if they truly didn't want to engage they wouldn't reply at all.
>>29282675
Not an argument. you sound like a trigger feminist now who doesn't have an argument.
>>29282764
>you sound like a trigger feminist now who doesn't have an argument.
That's EXACTLY what they sound like, actually
t. nigger robot
>inb4 blacks can't be robots
>>29282764
Um dude you sound like an inverse SJW.
It's a beautiful day out. Go to the park or something. You need an internet break.
>>29282764
Yes, why don't I spend hours arguing with some anonymous pol neckbeard and prove to him that there isn't a vast coordinated Jewish conspiracy to tend the white race. Sounds like an excellent way to spend my time.
>>29282822
The reason I said that you sounded like a feminist is because you have given up making actual arguments and instead say 'blah blah blah" like a feminist would when she can't argue that wage gap myth or gaymer g8 (fucking spam filter)
Now that I've explained that, explain why you think I'm an inverse SJW?
I bet you think it's cause I blame the Jews.
Well the difference between feminists blaming men and me blaming Jews is that mine is grounded in reality. Feminists claims aren't.
Your're probably pic related though who needs to go back
>>29282880
so why respond at all? why do you keep responding?
You want to dismiss my claims but don't have any real arguments against them.
>>29282897
No nigga, that's called having a life.
>>29282922
Talk about the 90s or fuck off. No one here is as bored as you.
>>29282955
And yet he still keeps responding while trying to claim the high ground of "having a life"
Not an argument
Anyway I gotta go to my stormfront meeting so i'll check back later. if it's still going i'll try to respond when i get back
>>29282976
Back in the 90s the Jewish cabal...
>>29282576
>It is a problem for most people though, they just don't realize it. You can differentiate to some extent but not entirely, whether you realize it or not.
And again, so what? It's not that extreme.
>it is though. it doesn't have real life importance but when people actively discuss movies, it must be acknowledged in that context
Again, for most people movies serve more a social function. When someone says the Sandlot is the best movie ever on facebook, they're doing it because it was a film that was special to them growing up, and others from that time can identify. When someone says Star Wars is better than a lot of the crap nowsdays, it is likely they have no idea why really, because most people don't understand much about films.
>not the same thing, as one is usually imaginary and the nostalgia effect is real.
So you say. Again, I just don't really think it's that bad to care about it too much. A fat neckbeard who loves an old cartoon is easy to ignore.
>well it does when an adult says kids movies these days aren't as good as the ones from back then. the point is they're meant for kids, don't make them anything more or less than they are.
First off, these movies have a broader audience than kids. Secondly, being for kids doesn't mean there is no craft or artistic quality involved. If you're not interested in the sort of movie Star Wars is, it's little wonder you didn't like it.
>if these people didn't have the distorted nostalgia lens they could see this.
Could see what? That they shouldn't care about something because you don't?
>maybe, but it doesn't say much
If you're not interested, you're not interested. I'm sure Jean Luc Godard thinks they're crap too.
>>29282998
>stormfront meeting
The sad thing is is that I bet he's for real
Do they serve refreshments at stormfront meetings?
>>29282303
Go back to /soc/ you fucking faggot normie
>>29278104
There were already robots in the 90s but we'd actually hang out and do social stuff. Nowadays you don't have to hang out since >4chan&porn (for robots) and >Netflix&chill (for failed normies).
Is this a good thing ? I'll never know. I got my life back on the tracks since (I'm still a virgin but I have a well-paid job and a few friends) while I'm afraid most current 12-25yo robots are fucked for life.
Drowning yourself in the Internet is a quick term solution to a big problem and it will be destructive in the long run I think.
>>29282321
A lot of people still do that. Melee and magic tournaments are pretty much /r9k/ irl.
>>29277515
I was born in 91, but my family was too poor for Internet for most of my adolescence
I mostly just read everything and played Pokemon cards and yugioh cards with neighbors, rode my bike a lot, watched anime on public tv
>>29283206
I'm >>29283184
I'm pretty sure people who still do that are "failed normies" (as you like to call them) at worst.
The true "robots" (=autistic kv) of your generation probably don't go out of their basement - and I guess I and all the other "90s robots" would have been tempted to do so back in the days, if I had high-speed Internet, and HD porn amongst other things. But we didn't, so we actually had to do "real" stuff to fight boredom.
>>29283041
>and again, so what? It's not that extreme
we're never gonna agree on that it seems
>for most people movies serve more of a social function
>they really have no idea why
This would be fine if they didn't get into intense arguments with kids and acknowledged their own bias. But like we've already established we're never gonna agree on the effect this has
>broader audience than kids
most 70 year olds don't distinguish between the old star wars and the new star wars. they may have enjoyed them when they came out but never at the levels the kids did. the reason the kids of the originals face disappointment with the second trilogy is not because it was so much worse, but because it was about the same. the problem is, is that they can see the new ones more "objectively", but not the old ones. the old ones are forever enshrined as something at least kind of special, something the new ones can't measure up to by being of the same quality but being seen through an adult lens.
this would all be fine if they could just admit that that's at least a factor in in, and not get into arguments with 9 year olds.
yes there can be artistic quality. but I would say in general kids movies and sci fi movies have as much today as back then. that's the point.
Fine Star wars isn't for me, even in a mindless way as an adult. but people should be able to enjoy it without some guy screaming at them it'll never be as good as the original.
>that they shouldn't care about something because you don't
no. that they should acknowledge their kids interests are just as valid and are in general as of high quality as the ones they watched. they don't have to like the new ones, they can relish in their fondness for the old ones, but a little reality check keeps them from arguing with 9 year olds. that's more common than you think
>>29277515
1990 here
I remember ordering a game called Inner Space, it came in the mail on a floppy disk. Floppy disks were like usb keys, they were so fucking useful at the time, and we had tons of floppies in the house.
At recess everyone would gather in large crowds to trade and play with Pokemon cards. Pogs was also a thing but that never caught on at my school. About a year after the Pokemon card craze, suddenly it was fucking Digimon cards.
>>29283323
I saw all the Star Wars movies at 21 and it's clear to me that Episode 1 and 2 are shit from the beginning to the end. Ep 3 is good though, I don't understand all the hate.
So I'd say that, even though we're probably blinded by nostalgia most of the time, there are things that are OBJECTIVELY shit. For example current pop culture. Not saying that it was anything near "interesting" in the 90s but kek, hearing about the Kardashian and Justin Bieber all day long...
>>29282392
>>29282414
nice samefagging
\totally original comment
Star Wars has been for insufferable nerds since around 1985.
>>29283457
Kek. Nope. Try again.
Oc
>>29277947
While taking endless photos and selfies to upload on to normiebook the next day.
>>29283493
Why does social media trigger neckbeards? It's pretty funny how worked up they get about it.
>>29283426
>choosing the two worst things
I mean I think Breaking Bad, for example, is vastly overrated but it still has value. There are enough things on that level and above it that I wouldn't say pop culture of this generation is really any worse than the previous generations. there's just more noise to cut through.
As for star wars i'll just have to disagree. it was all boring to me.
>>29283323
>most 70 year olds don't distinguish between the old star wars and the new star wars.
Neither do most 7 year olds.
>they may have enjoyed them when they came out but never at the levels the kids did.
Pretty sure they didn't enjoy the prequels, if they even saw them.
>the reason the kids of the originals face disappointment with the second trilogy is not because it was so much worse, but because it was about the same.
You want to talk delusional? This is delusional.
> the old ones are forever enshrined as something at least kind of special
something the new ones can't measure up to by being of the same quality but being seen through an adult lens.
There could be some truth to that, but the prequels aren't of the same quality.
>this would all be fine if they could just admit that that's at least a factor in in, and not get into arguments with 9 year olds.
Can't say I see much of this outside of 4chan.
>yes there can be artistic quality. but I would say in general kids movies and sci fi movies have as much today as back then. that's the point.
Understood. And you're wrong.
>Fine Star wars isn't for me, even in a mindless way as an adult. but people should be able to enjoy it without some guy screaming at them it'll never be as good as the original.
As I recall, plenty of people enjoyed the new one. I didn't, but I'm not yelling at anyone over it.
>no. that they should acknowledge their kids interests are just as valid
All parents do this though. It's not a big deal.
>and are in general as of high quality as the ones they watched.
In a lot of circumstances they're not.
>they don't have to like the new ones, they can relish in their fondness for the old ones, but a little reality check keeps them from arguing with 9 year olds. that's more common than you think
I guess. Maybe you just know really shitty people.
>>29277515
It's a meme.
Apart from that, the Simpsons was good in that decade. I remember the mystery of information back then. My dad came home from work one day with hundreds of pages printed out from the shitty slow internet, and these were full of Simpsons episode scripts. I really appreciated all the shitty demo discs I got with pc gamer too, since demos were pretty big back then.
>>29283493
Yea, being so conceited used to be a bad thing. Times sure have changed, and not for the better.
>>29277767
>Minimal video games
>replying to a pic of Clarissa explains it all
There was even a running gag where she would make a new video game every episode where it would always be about attacking her ranger brother, Ferguson. What kind of a fucking name is that anyway?
>>29283586
Young women have been conceited since the beginning of time anon.
Warcraft 2, and the popcultural music was better than the shit we have now
>>29277515
85 here.
One of the most striking things between now and then was how there was a constant underlying edgyness to everything. WWE back then was the WWF and had the Attitude Era, ECW was still a thing and was extremely bloody and dangerous. Even something as stupid as, let's say, Corn Nuts commercials had that IN YOUR FACE attitude to it.
Of course it wasn't just wrestling and corporate food mascots. You had grunge and laternative rock in the early 90s that was an edgy but mainstream subculture, in the later 90s you had pop-punk and nu-metal that were equally edgy yet also as mainstream as Britney Spears or NSync.
Hip Hop/rap as well was more edgy and arguably more real. Of course every commercial on TV and Christian VHS movie feature their own over sion of "rapping" but you had groups like Wu Tang and artists like Tupac and DMX. These days it's all just pussycore radio rappers, and the "hard" hip hop is just idiots talking about their money.
What else... "EDM" wasn't normalized yet. You had a bit of Techno overlapping into normie territory and it was just known as "dance music" but overall raves were still held in dirty abandoned warehouses and the people who went there all looked liked sort of giant babies wearing oversized pants.
>>29277767
Also this, but the trade-off was that if you were a robot back then you were TRUELY fucked. These days you sit in your room with the whole world at your fingertips but back then you just sat in your room and like listened to the radio and read old comics you had already read time and time again.
Arcades were still a thing and were great - if you had the money and weren't intimidated by like the 30 year olds who hung out there.
>>29279354
The 1990s was the golden age of the furries. They were all over the internet, sexually harassing cartoon voice actors (see: Dennis "Quozl" Falk), the normies had no idea what a furry was and neither did most of the internet community so nobody was even making fun of them.
As a bonus, the 90s was an animation renaissance and new fappable cartoon animals were being created constantly. Imagine how nuts this place would be if there was a new Judy Hopps every week, that's pretty much the 90s furry community.
>>29283493
>>29283535
Yeah really that doesn't change much. People would take pictures of themselves back then either with a polaroid or just a disposable camera, but mostly for special occasions like a vacation or party or something. If it didn't cost money back then to have pictures developped, people would also be taking as many pictures as they are today.
>>29283541
>neither do most 7 year olds
yeah, that's my point. the 70 year olds were old enough when it first came out, the 7 year olds are young enough when the prequels do. it's the people in the middle. and really I just mean the fanboys in the middle, not the "filty casuals"
>pretty sure they didn't enjoy the prequels
adults who enjoyed star wars for what it was when it first came out probably enjoyed the prequels to a similar extent.
>this is delusional
you're proving my point. the prequels weren't any worse, but people who saw the original as kids but the prequels as adults will never be able to see it objectively. proof is in the pudding. people who see all of them as kids or all as adults seem them as about the same. there are exceptions but yeah.
>can't say I see much of this outside 4chan
I've seen it at comic book shops and classrooms and state fairs. it's usually not so hostile but yeah they do give the kids a little bit of shit for their views. again i'm referring to the fan boys here. the casuals probably believe it to some degree too but aren't nearly as blinded by nostalgia cause the movies never meant as much to them
>and you're wrong
and you're proving my nostalgia lens point
>plenty of people enjoyed the new one
do you mean the disney one? I wasn't aware, honestly. I mean look a lot of people enjoyed the prequels i guess, cause the nostalgia lens wasn't as heavy cause they never loved star wars that much to begin with. the nostalgia lens i am referring to in this thread refers mainly to stuff we jizzed over as a kid, not stuff we found ok. the nostalgia lens was still there for these casuals, just not nearly as powerful as for the hardcore fanboys.
>all parents do this
a lot of them do. some don't. it depends what's being discussed anyway. different behaviors for different franchises
>in a lot of circumstances they're not
i mean you'd have to compare movie to movie, but generally the different generations kid and cape shit averages about the same
>>29283705
things have only gotten edgier i'd say, at least online.
I think we've just gotten more jaded, we've seen it all and are harder to shock.
>>29278753
Bojack Horseman is Duckman for millenials
>>29283774
But they actually gave a damn about the pictures. Nowadays they literally don't care if Facebook and Instagram crash tomorrow and the pictures they have been taking for the last 4 years are lost.
Back then they'd take pictures to put in albums and watch later, or on their bedroom's walls.
Now they just take pictures so that they can upload them on Facebook and show the world that they (supposedly) have an exciting life. They don't actually want to take picture. They want to exist through social networks.
>>29283900
>check 'em
Well I mean imagine all the water most people waste. it's because it's so easily accessible. if suddenly we had to start walking 8 miles a day for it we wouldn't waste a drop.
same with pictures. if suddenly it cost money to take and develop them again, you would be more selective about what you took, and cherish the ones you did a lot more.
>>29277515
The main difference between then and now
>2016
the internet, it's for facebook, look a selfie wow..
>1996
buckle up lads, we're going on a COMPUTER ADVENTURE
>open thread
>333 replies
Is it worth it?
>>29284001
>all those unique websites with different functionalities, hidden pages, feature rich content once you got past the blinding neon menus/banners everywhere
now it's all social media plugins that lead back to facebook, buzzfeed, youtube, twitter, etc.
Hell, I'd bet the reason this site has gained so much traction is that there's nowhere else to go. Every other site is just a social media hub or upboat bonanza.
>>29283796
not the guy you are arguing with, but you have said that the prequels and originals are the same to you, and that you didn't care much for them.
Do you think maybe that star wars was just never your cup of tea, and you just never had an instinct for them?
Don't get me wrong the fanboys overreacted to the prequels but there is definitely a difference. I saw them all when I was 18 btw.
And do you think maybe to a kid, everything will be good, so even if the nostalgia effect is true, the good stuff (the originals) will remain good and the bad stuff (the prequels) also will remain good?
i'm 29. the 90s love is mostly just a meme, probably from 20 year olds who didn't really grow up in the 90s anyway. the only thing the 90s had going for it were good video games, some good children's tv shows+the xfiles, some good music, and the internet wasn't filled with normies yet. the internet was mostly shit back then though so it didn't really matter, the only thing worth doing was either play a video game with 200+ latency, go on forums, or do the typical im/irc/chat room shit.
it wasn't special and i don't really miss it.
>>29278001
>literally being unable to imagine a scenario in which you're going outside
>>29284086
>Do you think that maybe star wars was just never your cup of tea, and you just never had any instinct for them?
Yes.... it's possible. I suppose maybe if I missed something in the old ones, then when it wasn't there in the new ones, it didn't matter to me because I missed it the first time. If that's what you're implying.
>And do you think maybe to a kid, everything will be good, so even if the nostalgia effect is true, the good stuff (the originals) will remain good and the bad stuff (the prequels) also will remain good
But this doesn't explain the people who were 40 when the originals came out and still enjoyed the prequels when they came out
>>29283796
>yeah, that's my point. the 70 year olds were old enough when it first came out, the 7 year olds are young enough when the prequels do
You have to look at historical context though. Star Wars was at the very beginning of the blockbuster age, back when such films were seen as being for kids. It could be argued that older people of the 70's were also biased, as it was long before it was socially acceptable for adults to embrace popcorn films. Even with younger people, being a fan of Star Wars meant being a called a nerd, back when it was still a pejorative.
>adults who enjoyed star wars for what it was when it first came out probably enjoyed the prequels to a similar extent.
Not at all true, from my experience.
>the prequels weren't any worse
They were much worse. Even RotJ was worse. How is it nostalgia's not warped my opinion on that?
>but people who saw the original as kids but the prequels as adults will never be able to see it objectively.
I saw the SW trilogy in 8th grade and saw the Phantom Menace in 9th.
>proof is in the pudding. people who see all of them as kids or all as adults seem them as about the same.
See my last comment.
>I've seen it at comic book shops
Why are you hanging around in comic book shops?
>it's usually not so hostile but yeah they do give the kids a little bit of shit for their views.
So what? It has always been like this.
>and you're proving my nostalgia lens point
No, I just don't agree with you. Mainstream films have gotten worse in general.
>a lot of them do. some don't.
The thing is, it's not a big deal.
>i mean you'd have to compare movie to movie
No, you don't. The general trajectory has been downward. Good filmmaking has been marginalized, and even the margins are thinning out.
> but generally the different generations kid and cape shit averages about the same
In what way?
>>29283992
But I do cherish the ones I take. And so do people who don't give a fuck about the social networks meme.
>>29284006
Yes. Welcome, friend.
>>29284108
If you can, you're not a robot.
(FAILED) NORMIES LEAVE
>>29283900
>But they actually gave a damn about the pictures. Nowadays they literally don't care if Facebook and Instagram crash tomorrow and the pictures they have been taking for the last 4 years are lost.
No to both of those points, both then and now it was just to capture moments. 90s girls and 2010s girls would equally be sad if their pictures got deleted/thrown in the trash. Doesn't matter if it's a dozen polaroids on a wall or 400+ pictures on various social media.
>>29283851
On a personal level, true. Especially since we were given the semi-anonimity of the internet. Shit you'd read on a bathroom stall grafitti or written in fresh cement is now the average youtube comment.
Also some "edgy" aspects of culture like stand-up comedy or South Park & The Simpsons and even kids' shows (something like Adventure Time vs 90s shit like Doug) have become edgier - but overall mainstream pop culture is much more bland and boring and safe today.
Americans were thinner back then. That made a difference.
>>29284161
>But this doesn't explain the people who were 40 when the originals came out and still enjoyed the prequels when they came out
Where are they? Hell, the kids that grew up on the prequels are grown up now, and they're here posting on 4chan. And yet, in spite of the all powerful nostalgia lens, you can't find anyone who has a good thing to say about the prequels beyond some memesters on /tv/.
>>29284212
>older people of the 70s were biased
and nothing changed by 1999, yet they were still willing praise the phantom menace to the same degree as the original
>not at all true
different experiences with old adults I guess
>RotJ was worse
Look as >>29284161
suggested these were never my cup of tea anyway and I don't have much of an instinct for what makes them "good" to fans so I'll finally concede that maybe I'm not the best judge. with that being said, i'll suggest, in addition to the bias of nostalgia, is the bias of the memes, and maybe the memes either pre-colored your judgement of star wars, or have in a revisionist sense. Maybe certain star wars flicks are better than others, but maybe we should admit that the best were never that good and there isn't as much of a disparity between them as fanboys suggest. I don't know the answer. i never liked them. just throwing those points against the wall as stuff to consider
>implying 8th grade and 9th grade aren't far enough apart when massive brain development occurs but who knows maybe you're right
>I used to play cards with people at comic shops
>general trajectory has been downward
Nigga I'll admit it's probably pointless for me to argue about star wars even though I keep doing it, cause I never had an instinct for it. but I will say that for the types of movies I do enjoy, things have only gotten better. Go back and watch The Godfather and other supposed "greats". they haven't aged that well.
>in what way
idk they're all just mindless superhero movies to me so they average out about the same. same deal with kiddie cartoons. even though I think Mighty Mouse is the greatest thing ever, I know that there are at least some cartoons today on equal footing.
>>29284444
millenial babby please
in the 90s unless you were a richfag with a home computer and dial-up, you had no reason to stay indoors at home especially during the summer. That was where you nagging mom and asshole father hung out and the good shows on TV never aired during daytime.
The average robot just rode his bike, or oversized neon-colored rollerblades, around the neighborhood or went to the local arcade to watch other kids play or went to the local toys store or shopping mall to look at things he daydreamed about having (and sometimes did a little innocent shoplifting)
>>29284412
ok i mean you can learn to do it but the default state when it's so easily available is to not. I can learn to cherish water but the default state in most of the first world is to not.
>Best music era.
>Best games era.
>Best porn era.
>Best fashion era.
>Chicks were hot.
>And no terror.
I fucking miss 90s.
>>29284507
look most people don't care that much about star wars so the all powerful nostalgia lens isn't gonna have nearly the same effect on them. so when people tell them the prequels are shit they don't care enough to fight back.
but some people do.
also let's remember bandwagoining revisionism and shame are very real things too.
as i already said earlier maybe the prequels are worse. i never liked any of them so i have no instinct.
anyway we're never gonna agree on this shit and i've said what i'm gonna say and even conceded to some degree so i'm done
>>29284619
>>Best music era.
True.
>>Best games era.
eh, impossible to know if a game was shit or great unless you had a subscription to EGM or something.
>>Best porn era.
Hairy muffs? No thanks.
>Best fashion era.
>Chicks were hot.
yeah more or less.
>>And no terror.
Please, never 4get my man the Unabomber.
>>29284619
>>And no terror.
uh, the 1st WTC bombing.
>>29284639
Isn't the newest star wars the highest and fastest grossing movie ever? I think people do care about it, anon.
And all because of the miscegenation. Incredible.
>>29284750
Nobody gave a shit about that. But since 9/11, you've got the threat of a violent, murderoussandniggeraround every corner.
>>29284685
>>29284750
Ah dude cmon hairy vags were good, also yeah terror happened too but im comparing with situation right now, like islamic terror. pre 9/11 was so good for me idk.
>>29284544
>and nothing changed by 1999, yet they were still willing praise the phantom menace to the same degree as the original
The Phantom Menace had a very lukewarm reception. I liked it when I first saw it.
>suggested these were never my cup of tea anyway and I don't have much of an instinct for what makes them "good" to fans so I'll finally concede that maybe I'm not the best judge.
Yeah, I told you this long before you admitted to it.
>with that being said, i'll suggest, in addition to the bias of nostalgia, is the bias of the memes, and maybe the memes either pre-colored your judgement of star wars, or have in a revisionist sense. Maybe certain star wars flicks are better than others, but maybe we should admit that the best were never that good and there isn't as much of a disparity between them as fanboys suggest. I don't know the answer. i never liked them. just throwing those points against the wall as stuff to consider
Right, everyone is biased but you.
>implying 8th grade and 9th grade aren't far enough apart when massive brain development occurs but who knows maybe you're right
True, by 9th grade I had discovered Kubrick and had moved on. But I did like the Phantom Menace when I originally saw it.
>Nigga I'll admit it's probably pointless for me to argue about star wars even though I keep doing it, cause I never had an instinct for it. but I will say that for the types of movies I do enjoy, things have only gotten better. Go back and watch The Godfather and other supposed "greats". they haven't aged that well.
I'm not a fan of New Hollywood. That said, what are these better films you're watching?
>idk they're all just mindless superhero movies to me so they average out about the same. same deal with kiddie cartoons.
I mean I enjoy stuff a lot of people consider pretentious or difficult, but I still love to see a good big studio blockbuster. However, most mainstream movies today are not on equal footing with those of the past.
>>29284809
Dude we had the crack era. Worse than anything now.
>>29284619
Best music era? Uh no, it was the 70's man.
>>29284809
So we had mo terror, except the terror we did have, but that doesn't count?
Brilliant stuff anon.
Might as well throw on OKC bombing while were at it.
Are these autistic nerds still squabbling about Star Wars.
>>29284915
6 deaths versus 3000+, I'd say it's just a little bit different.
in my elementary school we had macs the one with Orion trail.
>>29285016
Oregon trail!!! (80s though)
>>29285016
Oh yeah faggot? We had JUPITER trail. Take that you nigger.
>>29284963
>tfw autistic nerds could only argue against each other in person in the 90s
>>29284978
terror is still terror, it doesn't matter if one is more efficient and organized than the other.
>>29277515
Robots love the 90s because everyone here are 20 somethings meaning they were care-free kids during that time period. Everyone here's life started to go downhill around 2005. In reality the 90s were an era of war, poverty and rampant crime
>>29285075
>terror is still terror, it doesn't matter if one is more efficient and organized than the other.
Yeah, pretty much. Only difference is they got lucky the 2nd try.
>>29277824
The pokemon didn't change, you did.
>>29283535
It's just the spectacle of it. Why would anyone care about some retard's baby taking a shit with pics. Save that for your real friends.
>>29285094
>In reality the 90s were an era of war, poverty and rampant crime
Haha what? Did you learn this from a Michael Moore movie? For your average American, the 90's were pretty carefree.
>>29279120
>Jamal
Dope beat tho
>>29285145
>It's just the spectacle of it.
You wouldn't even see it if you didn't want to. It is in no way a spectacle. PUHleeze.
>>29283535
Neckbeards are inherently jealous creatures. That's basically all there is to it.
>>29285156
>For your average American, the 90's were pretty carefree.
No more or less than now tbqh.
>>29285156
>90's New York
>Carefree
It was the height of the ghetto anon
>>29285293
>For your average American, the 90's were pretty carefree.
I grew up in '90s Baltimore. It was far from care free.
>>29285222
No ti's just vapid and self-centered.
>"look at me! Look at me!, Look at meeeeee!"
Fuck facebook. I know even normies who think it's bullshit
>>29285313
wew how did you survive?
>>29285321
Again, you wouldn't see it if you weren't looking at them. I don't have Facebook. I have no idea what goes on on it. You choose to digest it, and then get angry about it. It's pure neckbeard.
>>29285343
It sucked. Modern day Chicago is about there though. More things change more they stay the same.
Anyone here grow up in the third world? Seeing as they're 20 years behind I practically grew up in the 1970s even though it was 1996. Everyone drove a Lada, all the architecture was 1960's colonial, the roads were 16th century conquistador dirt trail-tier and absolutely nobody had heard of a computer
>>29285360
Everyone, even a neckbeard had facebook at some point so I remember all the bullshit. of course I don't have it anymore
>>29285375
Baltimore was on National Geographic the other day, some shit about drug dealing. Haven't seen anything on Chicago yet. Maybe it's too dangerous for even reporters?
>be from Turkey.
>casinos were everywhere.
>playboy tv on television.
>everbody is happy and carefree
90s were like dat, now we turning to islamic caliphate. just..
>>29285404
what country was that?
1234567890
>>29285485
SOVIET EAST. Im sure it is.
>>29285485
>>29285517
Jamaica. We had Soviet car imports for some reason.
>videogames were shit and people who keep talking about Doom and Pokemon Yellow are blinded by nostalgia to me.
Fucking casuals.
>>29277515
nothing particularly. it's just old enough to have distanced nostalgia for, and recent enough that dumb kids can still relate to it
>>29285517
>>29285485
Also watch the 1962 Bond film "Dr No". Jamaica was exactly like that right up to the late 1990s. It's like nobody bothered investing in the country after the British left.
>>29285538
Oh bro didnt know that you guys had soviet cars, lol my fathers first car was Lada.
>>29285293
For niggers maybe. Notice I said average Americans, not average New Yorkers.
>>29285313
Again, average American. The average American didn't live in Bodymore Murderland.
>>29285248
But everything is much more politicized and gloomy now, and kids don't enjoy the full experience of bullying and calling each other fags.
>>29277515
fellow 94ite here and fuck off if you dont understand that doom is an unmatched masterpiece
>>29285983
Gonna play doom now. cya guys
>>29278190
>no hardcore feminists
Listen closely to the lyrics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NXnxTNIWkc
>Tfw my thread is dying
Well I had a good time though, lads. Thanks for your contribution, I actually had a good talk with some of you
