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Should left wingers be banned from 4chan?
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/r9k/, in the wake of the Orlando nightclub massacre by a registered Democrat and Muslim, we really need to have a conversation about the left wing shitposters spreading their toxic, regressive shit all over 4chan.

I know I'm not the only one to have noticed it. In the last 6 months they've been spreading their propaganda to /pol/, /int/, /r9k/, and even shitposting interracial/cuckold porn on SFW boards like /tv/.

>BLM terrorists attacking whites with impunity, disrupting whites from driving to work and attending college
>left wing terrorists assaulting Donald Trump supporters and attacking them with bricks
>Left wing muslim, registered Democrat slaughters 50 homosexuals in Florida

This is a really worrying development in our country. Do we really want to be giving leftists a platform to spew their "tolerance" of Islamofascism and promotion of multiculturalism and diversity? Leftists are not only condoning what's going on, but they're tacitly encouraging it. I for one don't want this website to turn into some space for left wingers to spread their shit that results in Republicans being brutally beaten and homosexuals being killed in their dozens.

So tell me why we shouldn't ban left wingers from 4chan?
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Because 4chan is already a cesspool. Why make it worse?
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>kills a bunch of gays
Wouldn't he be right wing then?
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>>29234769
Anyone can be homophobic.
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>being anti free speech
>wanting 4chan to become reddit where we all jerk each other off and discourse is frowned upon
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>>29234741
>banning the worst part of the site's userbase will somehow make it worse

umm, how?
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>>29234805
Haha, this person knows what's going on. Rivalry is healthy.
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Yeah I need my circlejerk so my feefees aren't hurt
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>>29234716
Christfags and Feminists should be banned, this site used to scare them off but for some reason there's shitloads of them here now. The rest of the internet is already their little circlejerk and they can stay there.

Same with /soc/ faggots, fuck off social media is a thing you don't need 4chan.
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>>29234889
Oh boohoo, are feminist and Christfags invading your safespace? Are you triggered by them?
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>>29234910
>Oh boohoo
And you should be banned just for this low tier shitposting.
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>>29234805
Exactly.

If you can't deal with reading other people's opinions, no matter how extremist they are, then you are on the wrong fucking website. Go away and find a hugbox. 4chan is designed to be the opposite.
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>>29234889
>Christians
>on 4chan

Nah lad, I've just grown out of the edgelord phase of blaming all of history's problems on le magic sky daddyxD.
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>>29234958
>If you can't deal with reading other people's opinions

Did you not read the OP? It's not about feelings being hurt, it's about

>Do we really want to be giving leftists a platform to spew their "tolerance" of Islamofascism and promotion of multiculturalism and diversity? Leftists are not only condoning what's going on, but they're tacitly encouraging it. I for one don't want this website to turn into some space for left wingers to spread their shit that results in Republicans being brutally beaten and homosexuals being killed in their dozens
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>>29234953
Face it. You want to be safe from any contrarian opinions.
You want people banned who have these. You want censorship, but the censorship that suits you.
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>>29235009
see >>29234990 and >>29234716

allowing liberals a safe space to spread their bile is endangering basically anyone ethnic minorities and Muslims dislike
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>>29234716
>"goddamn those SJWs and their retarded safe space mentality, i need a safe space from to circlejerk my mentality!"
>cherry picked list of events to push a "everyone who doesnt agree with me is part of the bad other, all people who lean the other direction think the same and are terrible people!

/pol/ is Tumblr: the post
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>>29234990
People have been saying for years that this is going to turn into a left/right-wing extremist website.
This of course will not happen as people with wildly differing political opinions have and always will be on this website.
The idea that any group should be banned from discussion is idiotic and anti-4chan.
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>>29235077
Hillary shills and interracial porn spammers are not interested in "discussions"
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http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/4npw8e/rnews_locks_thread_about_orlando_night_club/

http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/4nq2q0/censorship_theres_currently_no_active_trhread/
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>>29234716
No, because life is nature's eternal struggle and all that. Their ideas will always take hold with certain parts of the population so every generation will have to beat back the latest version of whatever they call themselves. At the very least we know what they're thinking as long as they keep posting. One of the core problems is that we thought we could just live in peace and that someone else will take care of it. It happens to wealthy societies, when people become addicted to being comfortable and "happy" and don't want to fight back anymore.
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>>29235040
This isn't even a safe space for liberals... They can be called out. But you want to destroy the counter cultural element of 4chan by making it a safe space for non-liberals. Sad.

4chan needs to value contrarianism above anything else.
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>>29234716
So basically you're a faggot that wants a safe space?
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>>29234802
>homophobic
>phobic
>PHOBIC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phobia

niggers
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>>29234716
>forgetting that back when 4chan was apolitcal it was literally the best website on the net
>wanting to ban only a certain kind of political discussion
>not banning all of it
Seems like you're new here, friendo.
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>>29235110
Neither are shills or spammers of anything, that's not what anyone is talking about
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>>29235110
A shill is a shill, and a spammer is a spammer. How hard is that to understand?
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You dont realize the depth of the problem


the real solution isn't ban left wingers, it's BAN 4CHAN and all anonymous internet forums.

The Intenret is inherently a Leftist tool of subversion, the "freedom" inherent in a place like this will always end in leftist subversion.

"free internet" is a meme.
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>>29235077
anti-4chan is the real redpill

this place is a shithole and it's psychologically damaging to society, as is most of "free" internet forums.

The biggest mistake that "conservative" Americans made was not banning or regulating the Internet for our own good from the beginning of its existence.

China is doing it right.
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>>29235227
4chan was a mistake. The Internet was a mistake

counter-culture is degenerate.

you idiots don't even realize most of you are miserable robots because of your Internet addiction and lack of a natural upbringing. Based China would have put you all in internet rehab as kids and you'd come out normal.
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>>29235394
>internet rehab
what
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Reminder /r9k/ is a communist board

Marxism will emancipate robots from wagecuckery , Chads and Roasties
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I think it is absolutely disgusting for people like to try and force your politics at a time like this when you should be celebrating this event it for what it is, the greatest shooting in American history
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>>29235502
>Reminder /r9k/ is a communist board

reminder that no amount of leftypol shilling or raids will ever make this reality
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>>29235548
>capitalism cucks robots out of their neet lives
>still cling onto it cause america said it was good and that gommunism was the big bad goy
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>>29235347
>>29235394
>>29235319
wow, there certainly are a lot of jewish shills on this board today.
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>>29235668
They think they can get us by using some reverse psychology shit, luckily I am smart like bananas and see through all their mindtricks aye
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>>29235548
They're an alt-right false flag shill. The right thinks r9k is a bunch of degenerates, they don't want our political support so they try to push us to the left, but we're not falling for it.
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Holy bananas, the misinformation is flowing through this thread now real bad, I dunno what to believe anymore
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What happened to free speech you dumb niggers were babbling about

btw the shooter was a right winger
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>>29235695
>The right thinks r9k is a bunch of degenerates

r9k is lumpenproletariat
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This.

You faggots hate challenge and I'm not even a left winger. Just argue you faggots it's your right.
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>>29235466
China puts kids into camps for excessive internet use and treats internet addiction as a public health issue. South korea too but to a lesser extreme, they monitor kids' internet use in schools, and going online requires real identification ID.

Explain how this isn't a good thing for the good of society and our sanity , without using "muh freedumbs" and "muh porn"

Your controllers (the Jews etc) WANT you enslaved to your screen, doing nothing but consuming media all day.

They tell you that "the big bad gubbermint is gonna censor your internet speech" but really thye benefit the most by having "free" internet to keep the masses distracted.

Real internet censorship for the right reasons is the Jew's worst enemy.
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>>29235264
>le phobia means fear meem

Quit being a pedantic retard.
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>>29234716
I like watching left wingers squirm and try to justify their beliefs when hit with truth bombs.

The real problem is janitors deleting anti-liberal posts.
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>>29235958
>arbitrarily redefine words to fit your narrative
>get mad at dictionaries

Stop being a retardphobe you bigot. What if he identifies as a genius??
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>>29234716
I wouldn't out right ban them they have much as a right to their opinions and to voice them. Make a /leftyPol/ and throw them in that containment board. then have janitors removed poltical threads from both sides removed from all boards bar /pol/ and /leftyPol/
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>>29235717
>registered Democrat

it's all a false flag!!!!

>>>/r/eddit
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Leftist spamming should be bannable, but only because it's repetitive and unfunny, not because muh dangerous liberal ideas. It's annoying to have 1/3 of threads be some variation of ">conservashits" or "how can white men even compete?"
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>>29234769
Weirdist fucking thing since you mentioned it, I wnet to /lgbt/ to see the damage and its on fire with people claiming that Trump is the only way to save the gays

Irony being that /lgbt/ faggots are typically ultra-leftists that think progressive means to accept cock from any source lest you look like a racist
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>>29236177
What annoys me the most about the new wave of leftist threads is that anyone that disagrees.

Instantly called Nazi, or from /pol/
even if you provide gov sourced evidence to counter their claims, lol didnt read pol nazi.

you call them out on not being able to defend their position and that they are resorting to name calling.

I dont have to justify myself to a nazi.

Ask them where in my post equals levels of nazi oppression. and why they continue to straw man instead of addressing the argument.

lol your from pol only they use the term straw man .

Thank them for giving up their point, sage and report the thread.

At least robots will actually discuss topics with normies and outsiders and debate.

Left/progressives with just shut down debate on the topic by name calling generic terms
/pol/
nazi
Racist
rapist
Mysoggknees
virgin
ETC
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>>29235668
uhhhh.....no Zionists here goy, heh
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>>29236290
For everyone of these people there are several literal Nazis.
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>Communists
>Defending religion
wew lads
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>>29236290
They're not trying to listen to your ideas. They're not debating in good faith. They're trying to troll you and provoke you and piss you off, because they want to silence you / turn you away from having ideas they disagree with. They want to make the place where these ideas are discussed toxic and aggravating to visit, so that your morale is lowered and you give up on your beliefs / trying to talk about them.

At the end of the day, if the mods won't ban them, the only thing to do is ignore them. Don't take the bait.
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where is the delusion that 4chan is right wing coming from? what is right wing about degenerate cartoon porn and gutter humor? if you people are conservative i'm austrian royalty.

you're just politically naive shitheads with no dads that get hard over authoritarianism of any kind. you have no stakes in the distribution system whatsoever and you are addicted to degenerate pornography but you decry leftists... for what?

you dont have a fucking paycheck for us to tax and they enable your disgusting lifestyle, why are you mad at them?
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>>29236516
Exactly.

I want the Internet banned, it's the only way to free us from our misery.
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>>29236410
This is exactly why the mods SHOULD ban them. They are trying to destroy 4chan and make it a leftist safe space, like they've done with plebbit
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>>29236516
Are you new or not from 4chan? you're acting like "you people" includes all 4chan users but you, and as if you're part of the government or something. Who's the "us" in your picture?
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Reminder that the president of America himself didn't name muslims or islam as the reason this shooting took place. He called it a hate crime and he is right. This man was a mentally ill fellow that was misunderstood by society. The main problem was how he got his hands on a gun that allowed him to kill the most people ever in a shooting in America. Guns shouldn't be in the hands of people like this.
Trump is outright being racist against an entire demographic. It goes against the first amendment. Muslims have the freedom to practice their religion in America and trump wants to kill them all despite the fact that most of them came to America legally. This was a lone wolf that wanted attention and was mentally ill and ISIS only claimed responsibility because they like publicity.
But you racists are going to continue advocating the dropping of bombs on the homes and families of muslims turning them into terrorists and then putting them in prisons to make sure they'll keep hating us.
Thank you Americans
THANK YOU FOR BEING ORGANISED TERRORISTS
THANKS FOR BEING VIOLENT TRIGGER HAPPY MORONS
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>>29234716
No, they should be allowed to post. Left cucks resort to banning dissenting opinions.
4chan is better than that, we beat them with shitposting and superior rhetoric.
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>>29236183
/lgbt/ is filled with shemales that pretend to be women but still have the thought process of men
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>>29234716
>W-We need to ban people that I don't like!

I don't think this website is for you
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>>29236736
Way to miss the point, retard. You can't have a functioning, cohesive website with hoards of leftist shills, they are subversive and actively try to destroy anything they disagree with. I don't like bronies or fags, but I don't mind a fag board or MLP board. Left wingers will stop at nothing to destroy everything about this site their retarded ideology opposes
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Jesus christ I hope this thread is a troll you are so fucking retarded probably a redneck
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>>29234805
sjws come here all the time demanding a safe space. fuck them before they fuck us.
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>>29236694
Why would you bother using a tripcode to express such a generic opinion?
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>>29236736
see>>29236785
now plz fuck off to rebbit
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To the progressives anything that isnt there view is nazi right wing,
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Theres two branches of the left these days, along with left leaning independents. Which ones do you want to get rid of? I'm all for kicking out SJWs though they are rarely here anyways.
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>>29236736
what are containment boards? if not throwing all the speech you don't like in a box away from everyone?
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>>29236872
they've been raiding r9k for a while now, same with /pol/ and /int/

see >>29236410, this anon hits the nail on the head
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>>29236872
>they are rarely here anyways
>implying
they literally make threads every day
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>>29236872
>I'm all for kicking out SJWs though they are rarely here anyways.
Some of them don't even know they are SJWs. The kool-aid is being served in schools, colleges, universities and whatnot. There's no telling how many drink it accidentally. They grow up like that. It's like that South Park arc about ads.
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>>29236322
By having open debate you get the "literal Nazis" exposing themselves. My problems is the progressives are so far left any slight left or centralist view point is considered right wing
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>>29234889
tfw im all 3
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>>29237110
>unironically being a feminist

wew lad
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>>29236780
>*insert broad group of people here* are destroying *everything*. We need to get rid of *all of them*

Consider suicide you fucking neanderthal. Political ideology doesn't fit into two boxes, with one hell bent to destroy your Japanese image board.
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>>29238019
To be fair, senpai, it is one specific group of people who are deliberately trying to wreck / lower the quality of all conversation on this site in service of their political objectives. There's a difference between wanting to ban people civilly expressing dissenting opinions and wanting to ban people doing the equivalent of going to a discussion group for people they disagree with and screaming and shouting until people get frustrated and leave
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>>29237110
Facebook sounds like the place for you then.
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>>29234716
>left wingers
>not non-contrarians

Wherever the pendulum swings, we must swing the opposite.

4chan was left-leaning in the Bush years, and it must be right-leaning in the Obama years.

And when the Trump years set in, we must swing left again. Or if Hillary gets elected, we must continue to push right. Or if Johnson gets elected (yeah right), we must push authoritarian.
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>>29235077
it's always been right-wing, though perhaps even more so than before.
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anyone else love election years?
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the point of 4chan is that we aren't reddit and ban anybody we dislike

the reason we are better is BECAUSE we have EVERYBODY with ALL opinions here. 4chan is a battleground of ideas and you cannot prove to be the superior ideology without competing in the arena against them

>"The genius of democracies is seen not only in the great number of new words introduced but even more in the new ideas they express."
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>>29235347
China's ban on the internet is more lax than europe you know that they can't access western sites but if you do a baidu search and you can speak chinese you can find the equivalent easily and there is even a 2chan china version and its pretty much full of Hkers, mainlanders, and tais shitposting each other.
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>>29238594
>4chan was left-leaning in the Bush years

No it wasn't you retard

inb4 you use that fox news segment as evidence /b/ used to be left wing
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i just want to remind the libturds that mudslimes don't give a shit about your hopeful left-wing policies. they are literally just voting left in hopes of opening immigration more in US so more mudlimes can enter and eventually give us the same problems as sweden n germany n shit. lefties, you guys are being cucked! a bunch of suckers
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>>29238788
>there is even a 2chan china version and its pretty much full of Hkers, mainlanders, and tais shitposting each other.
thats actually great to know that china bros can have the shitposting chan experience even though they live under commies
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>>29234716

>hurr durr, there is people who have different opinions than me, we should get rid of them, they make my brain hurt

You are everything that is wrong in this world OP.
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>>29238749
reddit has censored the fuck out of this story./r/news won't cover it only askreddit. They also won't cover the story about the guy who just got caught trying this in Santa Monica
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> 4chan the freest place on the web
> ever not being liberal

oh boy
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right wingers are currently throwing a party over what happened in orlando
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>>29238833

Yeah, it's a damn shame they do that shit. But if it was a white guy the story would be all over.

That place is a shithole and I do NOT want to see that happen here.
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>>29238868

do not equate progressives with the freedom-loving ideals of classical liberals such as our founding fathers
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>>29238874
>That place is a shithole
It's like that on most of the internet nowadays dude.
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>>29238893
> liberal
> wants shit to be free

> conservatism
> wants shit to obey ancient rules
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>>29238797
4chan was neither homophobic, religious, or pro war. It was racist and sexist, but those were the only prejudices. We were libertarians, but you problem consider them leftists for not wanting to obliterate all nonwhites.
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>>29238893
Our founding fathers were Christians and didn't believe in freedom. They wanted a Theocracy of the greatest holiness. It wasn't until atheists conspired to promote nigger loving and faggotry that we ended up with the whole "freedom" thing
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typical right wingers wanting to ban opinions
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>>29238915

yes. i don't want 4chan to turn into most of the internet.

>>29238919

>strawmen

>>29238977

very low quality bait. 1/10
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>>29238986
reminder there is literally an organised left wing raid on 4chan on multiple boards to get /pol/ banned, to dilute /r9k/ so it's filled with normalfags and you're too deluded to realise it
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Absolutely fucking not. If you elect to ban anybody for "wrong opinions" bullshit, you're no better than the hugboxes you chastise daily.
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>>29239015
https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism
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There is containment board for your kind OP. Why would it exist if most of 4chan was right wing? There is no containment board for left wingers and there has never been one. Just think about it.
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>>29234826
You're confused about who the worst 4chan users are.
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>>29239077
are you dense?

>>>/lgbt/
>>>/co/
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>>29239033
so you're telling me the OP and the people who've posted in support of OP itt are the left wing

get the fuck out of here

i've seen raid threads on pol and linking to threads on other boards and flooding them with your right wing shitposting
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>>29239077
>There is no containment board for left wingers
>>>/lgbt/
>>>/co/
>>>/tg/
>>>/soc/
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>>29239065
of course i'm talking to a swede.

the spectrum is not just liberal and conservatives. ideologies take from each other and mix and match and more importantly, individuals do this all the same. no two conservatives or liberals are exactly alike and thus generalizing is pointless
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>>29239015
but it's true
This is a christian nation and we do best when we give no other option. Just look at how atheists have ruined 4chan with cuck porn and traps
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>>29234969
>blaming all of history's problems on le magic sky daddyxD.

how can one blame something that doesn't exist?
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>>29239100
>>29239123

The users of those boards just happen to be more liberal, and it's not exactly a containment bored since most of those users cross-board anyway, and the mods allow it.

/mlp/ is a containment board because ponyshit outside of it gets banned.

do not confuse containment board with liberal playground
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>>29239101
>so you're telling me the OP and the people who've posted in support of OP itt are the left wing

wat. why? the problem is left wingers subverting the intentions of many boards of this site, trying to drive 4chan's traditional userbase elsewhere and make it a safe space for liberals. see >>29236942 and >>29236410, think about who is spamming all these blatant interracial relationship threads on /r9k/ in the last 3 months, or interracial porn threads all over the site. It's a concocted effort to undermine the culture of /r9k/, make it hostile to its major demographic and drive them off site
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>>29239137
Of course its not but generally
Right = backpedaling
Left = Progressiveness

Scandinavia, Ireland, Australia = leftist

Middle-East, Africa, = rightist
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>>29239138

We aren't a christian nation. Our founding fathers were deists. Religious freedom was a HUGE part of what made them who they are and shaped their ideals. Just educating you incase you're just misinformed, and not trolling.
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>>29239162
>who is spamming all these blatant interracial relationship threads on /r9k/ in the last 3 months
interracial threads have been a staple on 4chan since it's birth. If you think they're new you shouldn't be here
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>>29239194

but /pol/ told me right wing was good
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>>29239162

>muh conspiracy theories

What if people post here what ever they fucking want without it being some major scheme against YOU? Grow the fuck up. World does not revolve around you.
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>>29239245
it seems good until you study any kind of basic geography or history
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>>29239162
>wat. why? the problem is right wingers subverting the intentions of many boards of this site, trying to drive 4chan's traditional userbase elsewhere and make it a safe space for right wingers. see >>29236942 and >>29236410, think about who is spamming all these blatant creationist, global warming denial, race threads on /sci/ in the last 3 months, or /pol/ threads all over the site. It's a concocted effort to undermine the culture of /sci/, make it hostile to its major demographic and drive them off site

I am 100% sure some of those interracial threads are troll threads and some are literal pol faggots doing it, because I've seen them do it.
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>>29239268
and then you graduate highschool, enter the real world and realise /pol/ was right all along
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>>29239274
ah yes, /sci/, that board that has ALWAYS had race realism threads since its inception, and has a post rate of about a post an hour, is the target for right wing trolls. uhuh
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>>29239295

not really. i only bought into /pol/ garbage through age 16-19, then i grew out of it once i started getting out more and experiencing the world. plus i got an education and escaped my poor neighborhood full of drug addict "right wingers".
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>>29239194

>generally

don't fucking generalize you dumbass, get that thought process out of your head when trying to apply logic to arguments

generalization does not belong here
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>>29239263
when it's left wing it's a conspiracy woooo!

when it's right wing yeah totally it has to be pol 100%
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>>29239358

black and white thinking is all dumb /pol/ fags are capable of.
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>>29239358
> Overwhelming statistics
> Baseless generalization
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>>29239317
sci tells me it's pol posting them, sci calls it pol threads

who but a pol right winger would post a creationist thread on sci

you faggots do it to his too
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>>29239194
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_economic_freedom

Honestly I'd hate to be so ignorant of how the world works. Maybe you should expand your horizons beyond tumblr blogs and left wing subreddits
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>>29239295
Usa is a rightist country, thats what ya get
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>>29239387
>black and white thinking is all dumb /pol/ fags are capable of.

I'm done replying to you

>>29239392

i'm in favor of pattern recognition but doing generalizations like all conservatives are rednecks or all liberals are homosexuals belongs in youtube comments, not 4chan
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>>29239392
>> Overwhelming statistics

>can never actually provide a source

>>29239419

>black and white thinking is all dumb /pol/ fags are capable of.

>I'm done replying to you

rofl, fucking triggered. go back to tumblr., /pol/tard
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>>29239408
So economic freedom is the only factor when determining political affiliation?
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Ladies and gentlemen, le reddit mods.

http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/4nrz32/rnews_mod_has_mental_breakdown_tells_reddit_users/
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>>29239419
doesnt take too much brain power to see that the countries with the highest livingstandards are almost exclusively leftist while most of the worst countries are conservative.

That is if you know anything at all about the world
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>>29239350
It's ironic because you are the exact opposite of how most people's political views change over time. Teenage years are spent as idealistic, often far left ideologies, as a university student it's delusional liberal/SJW activism, then when you finally enter the real world, get a job and an income and pay your way you begin to value the money you earn. Not everything can be solved by DUDE. FREE STUFF. LMAO or DUDE. WEED. LMAO.

Honestly, I don't blame you being a libtard as a teenager. It's the product of a sheltered youth, being bombarded with left wing propaganda from the age of 5 onwards about the merits of mulitculturalism and diversity. I just want to let you know you'll grow out of it eventually
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>>29239500

your reading comprehension is beyond shit m8

>not really. i only bought into /pol/ garbage through age 16-19, then i grew out of it once i started getting out more and experiencing the world. plus i got an education and escaped my poor neighborhood full of drug addict "right wingers".

also

>it's ironic

please learn the meaning of this word before you use it. i know you're probably autistic (black and white thinking) and irony is hard for you to grasp, but if I can do it, surely you can to.
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>>29239500
what's your job

don't you dare lie, or your mother will die in her sleep

from /pol/ threads i know you fags take these threats very seriously
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>>29239500
I used to be conservative before I traveled the world and started being around people, its pretty hard after that
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>>29239493

and it also doesn't take much brainpower to see that in those leftist countries that have great living standards, they are mostly White. 95%+ White. American is 62% white. The more minorities, the worse off a country is. Leftist policies work with homogenous communities, but they do not work elsewhere. Different systems for different populations, people, and demographics.
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>>29239563
which country is 95%+ white and has great living standards
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>>29239560

Yeah, pretty much this. Once you get over your edgy angst phase and start experiencing the world. you leave the /pol/fag mentality behind pretty quickly.
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>/r9k/ shut-in spergs claiming they've traveled the world
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>>29239563
> youre basically a nigger if youre rightist

My eyes are finally opened
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>>29239443
Trying to drag the other side down to their level is the ultimate modern "left" tactic.

I always see this, first you argue a little bit with someone from the "right" then you try to hold a fake mirror to their face and hope that they will buy it. It fits in with the overall "everyone is equal" narrative you cling to. It's a flight or fight response basically, when the tensions get too hot you try the "bro calm down we're all the same lol" move.
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>>29234716
It would be best if all politics was removed form the site.
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>>29239560
ok, nice blog post. you've really contributed a lot with that one

>>29239545
My reading comprehension is fine, you don't have a very good point given most people's experiences are the exact opposite of what you describe
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>>29239581

I'm assuming he's talking about denmark, finland, and the likes with economically leftist policies.
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>>29234716
>Right wing is shit
>Left wing is also shit
Tell me r9k why aren't you part of the superior center yet?
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>>29239598

Yeah, except you /pol/tards prove the horse shoe theory to be 100% correct on a daily basis. Look at this thread, you're doing what the SJWs do, you want to ban people with different opinions.

I know self reflection is hard, but do give it a try some time, you might grow up.

>>29239604

Lol okay.

>>29239595

>im a loser so therefore everyone else is

nice anime girl, lmao
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>>29239606
>economically leftist policies

examples? Literally all of the Scandanavian countries rank very highly in the economic freedom indexes I posted you smelly left wing sperg >>29239408
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>>29234716
allowing free speech is the best way to keep out leftists. They never want to debate on an even field, their game is to infiltrate the existing power structure and subvert it.

The less rules we have, the better. I wouldn't mind if cuck/interracial posting was banned though desu, it's just insubstantial b8.
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>>29239589
Yeah, that's why the South is so racist, because they just haven't experienced the joy of diversity.
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>>29236897
>>29236780
>>29236827
all of the salt
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>>29239644

>da wealth will trickle down

anyone who still believes this needs to be banned form voting and breeding
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>>29234716

>Wanting to ban dissenting opinions from your safe space

You're just as bad as the pc sjws you claim to hate faggot.
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>Should we make 4chan even more of an echo chamber than it already is?
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>>29239644

That website equates economically leftist policies with freedom for some reason, and because of that bias, it's best to be ignored.

If you don't know that finland, denmark, sweden, etc are economically leftist, then I have no reason to talk to you
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>>29239630
>MUH MUH HORSESHOE THEORY!

You're like that 18 year old who has taken his first politics class and wants to share his new found wisdom with the world. Such a pointless and boring post, it's already been explained why you're missing the point multiple times in the thread but you choose to ignore
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>>29239654

the south is racist because they're all poor and uneducated.

funny how every single racist person ive ever met came from a poor neighborhood, were drug addicts or came from a degenerate family and most centrist and leftist are well adjusted normal people with at least a somewhat educated background.

hmmm, funny that.
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>>29239606
he's talking without having checked the actual population %, without posting which countries etc.

unprepared in other words

that's right wingers
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>>29239669

pic related, it's you my friend. you're losing badly now.
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>>29239654
it's not like southern whites are any better than the niggers living there
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>>29239630
>i'm not a loser
>i'm just posting on the one board infamous for losers
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>>29239668
You don't have any examples yet..

>>29239679
it's almost like pic related
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>>29239563
>Leftist policies work with homogenous communities
those countries are leftist. They are distinctively bigoted and anti-immigration
>>29239644
This is obvious. Mass immigration doesn't just happen for the shits and giggles. It happens because corporations want cheap labor
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>>29239684

no, that's not right wingers, that's him being stupid

you retards need to stop generalizing
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>>29239679
And how many racists have you met exactly? How many retards are opening conversations with fuck niggers and jews?
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>alt-right has a tremendous hate-on for gays
>some guy kills a bunch of gays
>they're actually mad at him

I don't understand, and no one's giving me a straight answer on this.

ISIS kills gays, dope fiends, drunkards, pornographers, and Jews. It's doing what you WANT. Why do you hate it?
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One of the main pulls of this site is that you can post anything within reason without having stigma attached to you due to what you post because of the default anonymity we all have.

So stop being a bitch nigga mother fucker.
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>>29239679
>funny how every single racist person ive ever met came from a poor neighborhood,

Aren't these the people who are most likely to run into niggers, and therefore experience first hand just how shitty they are?

Meanwhile centrist and leftists can virtue signal from their comfortable middle class suburbs about the plight of jamal
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>>29234716
>So tell me why we shouldn't ban left wingers from 4chan?

would be nice but its not going to happen. this thread shouldn't even exist lmao
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>>29239630
>tfw people actually believe in the paradigms of right and left

>tfw people actually believe political ideologies and governmental structures can be grouped on a line and aren't a spectrum at best, full of wildcards

>tfw socialism always leads to fascism and eventually fails, but lazy and/or stupid fucktards keep screaming for it

Nirvana_rapeme.mp3
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>>29239707
no

right wingers generalized themselves by labeling themselves right wingers, that's the point of the term, to be identified

so i can generalize freely

you are a retard if you call yourself a right winger
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>>29239739
Ive always wondered about this
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>>29239741
nigga tons of people posted this exact same shit as you and got ignored

people don't give a shit about that, just want to ban the enemy
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>>29239784
Or a left-winger, liberal or conservative. If you claim to understand politics and/or economics, you are wrong and need to be barred from mating. Your genes are cancer.
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>>29239739
>this unmatched level of projecting
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>>29239563

No leftist positions don't work in America because they barely fucking exist. Politicians have been bribed by wealthy oligarchs to work for them, that means we get far right policies that favor our corporate rich overlords. It's not because minorities are holding people back. They're just scapegoats and instead of addressing the real issues America faces you would rather criticize people based on arbitrary traits like skin color. You're far worse than the oligarchs because you blindly accept the bullshit that they've fed you.
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>>29239784
>so i can generalize freely

then keep being ignorant. you're on this website so you'll get red pilled eventually, it's not a matter of if, but when. enjoy, newfriend!

>>29239853

income inequality is a good thing
if you want income equality, go to venezuela, where the both the lower and middle class are eating out of dumpsters. equality sure is great right?
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>>29239809
the alt-right isn't organized tbqh nor does it know what it really wants. They just like the image of shooting up niggers, gays, and degenerates. They don't know how to implement it
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>>29239828
>you're just a troll and I don't have to respond to you, except to point out that you're trolling
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>>29239877
And ISIS does... Yet they despise it. I really do not understand.
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>>29239876
do you call yourself a right winger?
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>>29239877

the only thing the alt-right has going for it is spreading the message to right wingers to never throw fists to the right of you, always punch to the left
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>>29239809
Milo is he leader of the alt right kids, half of the fucking alt right are trans women.
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>>29239876
They put their eggs in one basket, basket fell. (A very reliable source tells me they relied overmuch on oil for funds and America knew that they'd fail years in advance)
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>>29239876
>income inequality is a good thing
>claims to be a conservative
If you cared about the white race you wouldn't put money over your tribe's well being. Social conservatives, which I assume you identify as, do not treat money like an object
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>>29234716
How is tolerating different religions or religion at all left wing in any shape or form?
Please try to understand what the left stands for before saying such things.
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>>29239853
>They're just scapegoats and instead of addressing the real issues America faces you would rather criticize people based on arbitrary traits like skin color. You're far worse than the oligarchs because you blindly accept the bullshit that they've fed you.

Have you even been aware of popular media at all in the last 30 years? Who the fuck is brainwashing the masses to hate minorities?
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I don't agree with censorship. That said, I don't agree with leftists having the right to live 2bh flam. Liberals killed society.
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>>29239907

If I had to label myself, it would very loosely be a 'small L' libertarian, but I try not to box myself into groups. I also sympathize with economic freedom, but do understand that NAFTA, TPP, etc are NOT economic freedom, even though labeled as 'free trade'. I can understand trumps protectionist policies for certain parts of the federal government during these times in America even though I would like economic freedom to thrive. My opinion changes from situation to situation, because we must all be judged individually under the court of law. So i try to put myself into that mindset.
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>>29239949
Well, neither does ISIS. They're reactionary enough that they're literally trying to bring back the Caliphate. Yet they're hated.
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>>29239876
> income equality
http://www.business2community.com/finance/the-countries-with-the-most-and-least-income-equality-01311746

hmm, what do those 5 countries with least equality have in common? Could it be highest living standards on planet earth?
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>>29239949
>Liberals killed society
Yeah, 200 years ago.
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>>29239919
Google 'hedonistic treadmill' and you'll gain some insight.

The world needs losers and winners so that those inbetween feel as though they have enough and they stay in their place and keep paying taxes.

Poor are no threat, no resources.
Rich are no threat, no reason to be.
The middle class need to feel superior to somebody and have the mindset that working and giving a quarter of their gains to the lazy is necessary to maintain their lifestyle.

Not even socialist, just realistic.
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>>29234716
Who said I lived in USA fuck that place


#$%^&*(*&^%$
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>>29239917

Your source would be correct. They bet it all on black and lost. But the result of that IS the wealth gap closing, and rich fleeing, am I not wrong?

>>29239919

I didn't claim to be a conservative, read before posting please
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>>29239604
What do you do?

I asked you before and you avoided to answer
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>tfw banned from /lgbt/ for bringing up how gays are by in large against Trump and will still vote for Shillary even after this happened

JUST
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>>29239812
You didn't ignore me.
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>>29239998
>trying to reason with the mentally ill
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>>29239964
I just bullied you into refusing to say you are a right winger.

Don't worry, you'll get redpilled one day newfriend.
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>>29240024

Some people on the right wing are stupid. Some people on the left wing are stupid. Acting like generalizing is a good thing, is stupid. Discontinue posting.
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>>29239985
You are not wrong.

The man I spoke to is a 4-star general, he was in charge of Guantanamo Bay when all of that stuff went down a few years ago.

The guy who defended the guard who was whistleblown for torture, guy who ordered those drug manufacturing facilities bombed and their runners shot.

He knows some stuff, he knew a lot about Venezuela that he refused to tell me. America could have helped before things got bad, but where's the glory in giving a hand up when you can wait to perform CPR?

It was enlightening.
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>>29239964
>beng a lolbertarian
wwwwwww
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>>29239876

No one here is arguing income inequality doesn't serve some purpose in society, but in America it's so extreme it could be compared to the gilded age. It's unsustainable and you misunderstand what most of us professed leftists support. The majority of us are not asking for equality of outcome, we're just asking for equality of opportunity. This means things like universal college education and an increased social safety net.

>>29239944

Xenophobia has existed throughout history, it is a useful tool for oligarchs to prevent the populace from realizing the actual problems in society. The media might have influenced people in a more accepting direction in someways, but not as much as you think. And the media still does not criticize the oligarchs at all. Bigotry is alive and well and it always will be, still doesn't change the fact xenophobes are nothing more than useful idiots to perpetuate plutocracy.
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>>29240055
with a 'small L' though
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>>29240055
>not understanding libertarianism and perpetuating a meme hurrr
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>>29240079
nah, i know what that is about

>>29240075
that's what I said, I used a lowercase l
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>>29240049
>America could have helped before things got bad, but where's the glory in giving a hand up when you can wait to perform CPR?

Really interesting perspective.

>>29240073

Social safety nets, as they are passed through the watering down and fucking up of congress through shitty policies, bribes, and pocketing, are currently HARMING equality of opportunity in America right now. Just look at how fucked up Obamacare got when it was finally passed. It was like it was tossed through a shredder. I don't think free college education in America would help us, I think it would hinder us. All the people who never wanted to go to college, would be forced to by their parents because why not, it's free, and those same hooligans will not take college seriously, thus fucking up test scores, leading the schools lowering standards in order to keep their funding. It's a logistical nightmare.
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>>29240049
There's a reason people call it the 'global stage,' America puts on quite a show to maintain an image.
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>>29240073
>oligarchs somehow existed before the concept of capitalism
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>>29240109
Do you, now?

So you understand that libertarians are just anarchists who grew up and studied politics, yet still find fault in a very varied groups' ideology?

Why?
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>>29240144
carthage was an oligarchy

I am 100% sure you are american
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>>29239921
leftists are not anti-religion, rather they are anti-tradition. They're completely fine with religious ideology as long as it is alien to the given culture and opposes the local traditions...explaining why they see Islam as their temporary ally against Christianity.
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>>29239998

They dig their own grave. I hope they get to realize just how much they fucked up when some Mudslimes execute them for their degenerate behavior.

These people will probably never realize just how fucking good they have it in this society. It bends over backwards to accommodate them, and they just straight up spit the western world in the face to be "tolerate" to people who LITERALLY want to fucking KILL THEM!

Hell, I remember fucking yesterday I saw on youtube a comment from some Syrian LGBT person complaining about being in a muslim country and wanting to get out of it, and talking about how intolerant their muslim community and family is towards them. I wonder what the typical LGBT 1st world liberal would say to them? Would they say that this person is an islamophobic bigot? Would they even acknowledge their plight?

These faggots don't even care about being morally right. They just wanna screw over the right because they were taught to hate it and it's values. And if bringing in muslims who wants to kill them is what fucks over the right wing, then they'll do it. It's fucked up, but that's how it seemingly is.
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>>29240194
>leftists are not anti-religion
strawman
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I don't know how this turned into a discussion about economics

The point is how do we defend our countries against the ideological subversion called "diversity" which openly enables a new wave of Islamist expansionism? Economics is only related in the sense that European welfare systems were not built for sudden influxes of foreigners but I wish that were our biggest problem.
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>>29240073
>Xenophobia has existed throughout history, it is a useful tool for oligarchs to prevent the populace from realizing the actual problems in society.
>l-l-le identity politics is used by le capitalists to keep us from our real objective, comrades!

what's it like being 12 and having the analytical mindset of a retard?

How can you not think the impending demographic crisis in this country is a real thing when over half of babies being born today are non-white? How can you think preserving traditional, conservative white culture and institutions isn't an important issue? This is why no one takes psuedo-marxists seriously
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>>29240194
Most liberals are christian. They just focus on the charity aspect more than the moral purity
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>>29240150
please think for yourself
who would be in charge of a libertarian utopia and would those who are in charge be act in your interest?
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>>29240226
how old are you bro and where are you from

since you mentioned country
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>>29240226

Sorry, I tend to prioritize economics first because the social stuff can't really being fixed through arguing about it, only by bitching. Social issues and cultures change because of the current economic prosperity, not the other way around.

Politically, you guys just need to keep voting and calling out politicians, but it's getting harder because of the censorship over in Europe. But don't worry, there will come a tipping point if a politician is not elected in time to reverse the mess they are currently in, and that tipping point will be violent. This is just the course of history.
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>>29240123

Obamacare was absolutely put through the shredder and it's a complete handout to private insurance companies, but it's still better than what we had before when people could be denied care for things like "preexisting conditions". Don't think of universal college as a welfare program, think of it as an investment. There are studies that show for every dollar a government invests in tuition spending they get about 5 to 7 dollars in return through taxes because people that go to college make a larger salary.

>>29240144

Monarchy is the ultimate form of plutocracy

>>29240250

I don't understand why a demographic crisis is considered a real issue. How would a perfect society look for you? Are you just going to prevent minorities from reproducing through a big government police state? I wouldn't want to live in a world that and I doubt you would either.
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>>29240194
nobody is talking about leftists.
we are talking about the ideologies that compromise the left wing.
And the left very much is anti-religion.
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>>29240254
Who said anything about 'u'topia?

I'm not a Galt's Gulch retard, most libertarians aren't. You've been misled, by a wide margin. The idea is for people to be their own leaders and build a community based on what's wanted, which is what is needed, as a community.

For malum prohibitum laws to be thrown out and people given freedom to live their lives and not have to do for others who can't or won't do for themselves. Charity is still charity, humans are not monsters by and large and socialism is just charity with a gun to your head.
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>>29240226
because you are a clueless idiot who doesn't understand politics at all.
The left and the right are distinguished by their stance on economical issues not this social media feelgood garbage you people keep pushing for some reason.
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>>29240348
Libertarianism is an umbrella term, the common beliefs all revolve around people being free. Taking issue with this is a little disturbing.
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>>29240250
>How can you think preserving traditional, conservative white culture and institutions isn't an important issue?
most 3rd generation immigrants only speak English. The majority marry whites. Only blacks still segregate after many generation and I'm pretty sure you don't want them wrecking polite society
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People who are into politics should be executed on the streets and their bodies should be burned in a single, massive massgrave that would then be branded as a unholy site.
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>>29234716
>whines about reddit and tumbler limiting muh free speech with their faggy censorship based on emotion
>wants to limit everyone else's free speech based on his faggy emotions
I hope /pol/ trumplets gets killed in the next massacre.
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>>29240371
No, the left and right exist to keep people buying their opinions wholesale and bickering among themselves.

Jesus, grow up.
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>>29234716
Absolutely not, this is a bastion of free speech and by combating the bullshit successfully you strengthen people who think like you.
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>>29240398
good post familie
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>>29240339
>Are you just going to prevent minorities from reproducing through a big government police state? I wouldn't want to live in a world that and I doubt you would either.

This would absolutely be my ideal world. I'm not delusional, I know the demographic crisis is inevitable because there is nothing politically salient that can be done. It's just depressing to think about. In 35 years the US will no longer be white majority. The worst part is no one seems to give a shit about it
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>>29240348
I did, because that is how you evaluate ideologies.
Think about the "perfect country" ran by this ideology in question.

Charity does not work without forcing the people to be charitable.

>>29240379
Libertarianism was coined because they couldn't use the term Liberalism, which literally means the same thing.
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>>29234889
agreed, christfags can FUCK off. all they are is shitposters "hur dur atheists plblplpblpbpblb or litterally retarded. feminists only come to get angry and yell. i hate this place

however, we wouldnt be able to ban all of these people. i reckon that lefties are about 15% to 20% of the userbase, but they stay quiet and browse /tv/ and the /v/ boards.

I've wanted to make some form of social media where leftist opinions are outright banned, something like 4chan but a bit more modern. but, i lack the skills and motivation tbqh. If anyone wants to help then i'd be more than happy to start, i know a little python but thats it really.
but leftist opinions are needed, so its not just a fucking circle, but the amount of leftist threads on /pol/ is fucking disgusting
if anyone wants to make sais site i's happily moderator it.
also, fuck americans.
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>>29240339

I'm sorry, I just can't see it working out as an investment. I can't explain the complex logistics of how I come to that conclusion, but between our demographics, our incompetent congress beholden to bribes, I don't think a *proper* free college system could EVER make it through to America. In a smaller, whiter america with less bribery and incompetence where the policy would get passed, I could see myself voting for it though.
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>>29240415

Imagine for a second that you were a minority and the government castrates you for being the wrong skin tone. That's the world you want to live in? Well that's fucking horrifying and I hope people like you never receive any sort of political power.
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>>29239646
>allowing free speech is the best way to keep out leftists. They never want to debate on an even field, their game is to infiltrate the existing power structure and subvert it.
Pretty much. So few people understand this though.
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>>29240371

>The left and the right are distinguished by their stance on economical issues not this social media feelgood garbage you people keep pushing for some reason.

Thank you, a fucking reasonable post.
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Why can't people with non mainstream political and social views have their own online community, where they can discuss freely without being told that they are ''bad'', ''racist'', stuck in past, that they are on the ''wrong side of history''? We should just implement anti-degeneracy rules on some boards, and ban those who just spew shill propoganda garbage, and those with ''countering'' opinions.
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>>29240479

Yep. See: Milo, tila tequila, and whatever current faggot the alt right worships and gives attention to of the month.
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>>29240478
>castrate

Why not a one child policy or payments to repatriate?
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>>29240304
Sure I just got confused because when OP talks about banning left-wingers I don't think he meant economic policies. The current left vs right dynamic is clearly dominated by SJW-ism, Islam, media subversion, and such. And it's not just Europe, you guys in the US and Canada face the exact same problem. This whole "diversity" thing is being pushed everywhere, I included you when I said "our countries".

>>29240371
It has nothing to do with feelgood, it has something to do with people getting either blown up by invaders or arrested for dissenting opinions by their own government.
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>>29240498
that's called reddit
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>>29240456
Implying that every political ideology is clung to with utopia in mind? Nosir.
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>>29240484
so in your opinion nazis, evangelicals, and paleoconservatives aren't right wing?
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>>29240464

In the current system you're correct something like that would never make it through congress. This is why money must be taken out of the political sphere altogether.
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>>29240498

l see what you did there, wew
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>>29240510
that may well be but it has nothing to do with the left/right wing dichotomy, that is purely economic.
take your conspiracy shilling elsewhere.
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>>29240456
Forced charity is called robbery and receipt of stolen goods, bud.

I hope you're trolling. People do for others constantly, socialism always fails because it always comes to violence and the people always win.

Read your history books.
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>>29240506
>tila tequila
Who the hell is this and how is she related to anything? Isn't it some porn star from like 10 years ago? I don't really follow e-celebs.
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>>29240520
give me one political ideology that has no "perfect country" in mind, then.
Then explain why anyone should follow it.
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>>29240523

They are, but when discussing government policy and proper implementation things become a little bit more civil than whatever SJW its tweeting on twitter, or whatever some meth making redneck is shouting on the corner.

>>29240524

You're right. But that's asking congress, a group of people who leech for a living, to give up their free donations and upper class lifestyle. That would be very tough, I'm not sure how it could be done.

>>29240560

Some edge lord who some redditors who migrated to /pol/ talk about just because she spouts white pride shit.
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