Capitalism is cancer. Do robots agree?
>>29216345
the reason why your disgusting fat wrinkled ass is on this board and not slaving on some dairy farm right now is because of capitalism. fucking commie.
>>29216432
No. His ass is here because communism threatened capitalists into giving some basic rights to it's slaves in fear of revolt.
>>29216345
Global capitalism is cancer yes but socialism collapses quicker and harsher.
Yeah capitalism is so terrible why can't we just all hold hands and jerk each other off until we die? #feelthebern
Yeah i agree op :)
>>29216345
American politics are cancer in general. Your either left or your right wing. Its completely stupid. George Washington would be ashamed of america today.
>>29216345
yes capitalism is cancer.
Unfortunately it's just melanoma while everything else is metastasizing leukemia.
>>29216613
Why would he be ashamed?
Bernie pls go richfags cant be robots
>>29216432
I'm 6'1 and 165 lbs and just got out of tbe shower 2 hours ago, you little alt-right /pol/ posting bitchcuck. Pretty damn sure that I'm not fat, wrinkled, nor disgusting, but good job once again at making ASSumptions about other people for having different opinions. Typical conservatives, always being willfully ignorant of reality.
Sad!
>it's another "liberal college student thinks they have a better grasp on politics and economics than anyone else without realizing how much they have and will continue to benefit from the current system"
>>29216345
>Do robots agree?
My grand-mother when she was young had no electricity, had to wash clothes outside in cold water in winter.
Whereas her grand-son is shitposting on a vietnamese marxist pamphlets writing imageboard.
All in all, your cancer sounds like progress.
>>29216345
Eat shit in hell neckbeard
Capitalism is the best idea humanity ever thought of.
>>29216888
>he uses personal anecdotes as "evidence"
Typical capitalist brainwashing!
Sad!
>>29216805
>democratic socialist
Fucking kill yourself. I know this is pure bait, but socialism is achieved through revolution dammit.
>>29216345
you sound like the kind of bitch that gets offended by the colour of the boys and girls sections at toy stores.
>>29216833
>Le smug anime girl avatar.jpg
>>>/plebbit/
Economically goddamn commie, socially deeply conservative, not American. Fuck me over fags. Feel free to do so, I'm going to bed.
>>29216345
>capitalism is cancer
>posts an image with an anarcho-capitalist flag
Nice one OP great bait.
Well, yes, capitalism is cancer. A cancer spreading, not forgiving, turning into fucking libertarianism bullshit which has no regard for human dignity or to those who aren't able to work. Humanity needs to evolve as a society, not as a multitude of individuals. This is how wars came to be, because capitalists don't want to share their resources for the common good
>>29218018
>This is how wars came to be, because capitalists don't want to share their resources for the common good
You don't actually believe this, do you?
>>29217539
this is literally nigger politics
Niggers are fiscal liberals who want gibsmedats, but they're social conservatives who want to off degenerates.
Iraq War, Afghanistan War, all the wars in Africa, even the fucking Opium Wars were started because the British wanted the Chinese resources
>>29218144
>mfw nigger politics are apparently identical to Nazi politics
>mfw it dawned on me that the developed world has no revolutionary potential
>tfw the third world will get communism and we'll get left behind in dystopian corporate feudalism
>>29218108
Or do you believe in "the war on terror"?
>>29216613
There's no left wing in Ameria.
You're either right-wing or extreme right-wing.
Obama would be considered a conservative in any other country.
>>29216345
Capitalism is the ULTIMATE CANCER and the death of all our valors and traditions. All countries that have been capitalist for a good amount of time are now hoarded with immigrants branded as refugees in order to work for less money and increas the jew gold.
>>29218219
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
oh fuck that's not an original comment is it?
>AHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>29218258
>there are actually people who think Obama is a fucking Marxist
>>29218269
This.
It's funny how alt-right beta males blame "socialists" for importing immigrants when all the while its big capitalist corporations that benefit from it and lobby for more lax immigration laws.
>>29218258
>mfw somebody implies that socialism is a form of extreme liberalism
YOU FUCKING RETARDS A LIBERAL IS ANYBODY WHO SUPPORTS CAPITALISM
>>29218235
Lets not move the goal posts here buddy
>>29218258
And look how that's working out for you, eurocuck. You live in an open borders welfare state with a trash economy where free speech is considered less important than feels.
>>29218313
In America liberal is just a synonym for 'left wing'.
>>29218327
>muh free speech
kill yourself
>>29218349
And it's fucking bullshit. I hate mainstream political discourse because it seems like nobody has ever bothered to read anything. Especially people who think socialism=welfare state. By that logic Bismark's Prussia was socialist and they sure as hell weren't socialist.
>>29218327
At least they don't kick mothers out of hospitals after 24h from when they gave birth here in Europe
>>29218313
Americans have twisted the meaning of words so that they mean the opposite of their original meaning.
Americans (republicans specifically) are mostly low IQ retards who think that anything that's publicly funded is bad. They worship their rich overlords in the vain hope that one day they'll become one of them.
>>29218327
It's working out quite well to be honest. We've got issues just like any country but I'd rather have our issues than your issues burger friend.
>>29218327
>pretending the right care about free speech either
Free speech literally doesn't exist. There's always going to be social taboos on certain things.
This sums up everything you need to know about anglo "democracy" and it's main weapon - capitalism.
Fight against this shit, or you will be silenced and plundered until there is nothing left.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=froTxqKSqc4
>>29218307
Welfare is only the natural consequence of capitalism. Im not saying marxism is good, but compared to capitalism, its like getting hit by a rock vs getting hit by thunder.
>>29218392
actually republicans are smart. Especially the ones living in New York, California, etc.
>when fascists think they're anti-capitalist
kek
Here's something for you /pol/fags to chew on: the Soviet Union was very socially conservative and ethnically homogeneous. Same as China under Mao. If you really want to save the white race I suggest you break ties with the ancap/libertarian side of the alt-right and embrace Marxism-Leninism.
>>29218439
Countless studies have shown that Republicans have lower IQs than Democrats.
Right wing political views in general are associated with lower IQ scores.
There are, of course, exceptions.
>>29218439
Well, they are not the electoral mass, so, statistically speaking, republicans are low-IQ retards
>>29218392
>I'd rather have our issues than your issues burger friend.
that's because you're stupid and get your perception of typical life from bleeding heart whining and human interest journalism. you're probably one of the idiots who pretends mass shootings are an epidemic because you don't understand statistics
>>29218480
That was an accident though not inherent in the ideology.
Marxism-Leninism is very left wing, it just couldn't overcome Russia's conservatism.
>>29218219
>he fell for the third worldism meme
wew lad
Marxism-Robotism is the way to glory
>>29218525
I don't want to fall for the third-worldism meme. But at the same time the only European revolution to ever succeed was the Russian Revolution. And that was only able to happen thanks to WWI annihilating much of the imperial army. Every other revolution in Europe was a massive failure. I'm starting to think accelerationism might not be a bad idea.
>>29218504
No, I just look at crime statistics and quality of life indexes.
I don't have to carry a gun around to feel safe or worry that my children might come home from school in a bodybag.
I don't have to worry that if I lose my job or fall ill that I'll be saddled with insurmountable debt for the rest of my life.
Like I said, we've got problems, but they seem trivial compared to what you lot have to deal with.
>>29218493
studies have shown republican STATES,which have lots of blacks, have lower IQ. Conservatives benefit from keeping things the way they are
>>29216565
This.
Who /fash/ here?
>>29216345
Hey comrade, go back to your involuntary labor camp. We NEETS are the aristocracy, you are the proles, now slave away wage cuck, and make someone more intelligent than you more money,
>>29216345
>Capitalism is good if you are rich
>You need to work to be rich
fuck that
>>29218630
>You need to work to be rich
Bullshit.
You just need to be born into the right family with the right connections.
>living wage
What's a living wage for one person, isn't a living wage for another.
$15 an hour would leave you borderline homeless if you had a family of 4 in SF
$15 an hour would make you fairly well off in a smal Kansas town.
The min wage is not supposed to be a living wage, ideally it's for low skill single people who are just starting out with few bills. It's "my first job" money. Not "I have 8 kids" money.
Or just get them NEET bux
>>29218605
Fascism is another cancer which puts nationality or race or some other random and unchangeable shit like that before the human race and creates unnecessary conflict
>>29218605
>>29216565
Fascism is literally the last resort of a terrified ruling class to stave of revolution and save their own wealth, and you dumb proles are still falling for it.
>>29218673
>Human race
>Unironically believing this
>mfw
>>29218587
if you had the american urban population (particularly black people who are culturally more likely to be raised by single mothers which results in huge crime rates) your crime rates would increase. you just sit there with your largely heterogeneous populations going 'muh crime rate' out of some combination of intellectual dishonesty and ignorance of what you're talking about
of course you're currently trying to take in as many poor, culturally dissimilar immigrants as you can so you'll get to see for yourself.
>worry that my children might come home from school in a bodybag.
if you think this is a serious concern then like i said you're an idiot who doesn't understand statistics. what a shock
>>29218673
Humans are happiest among their own kind, there's nothing random about it. There's no need for conflict if everyone keeps to themselves and doesn't try to influence anyone else's culture.
>>29218712
What do you mean?
How is the human race any less real than the 'white race' or the 'black race'?
>>29218673
>durrrrrrr
What did he mean by that?
>>29218731
White people are closer genetically to other white people than they are to people of any other race. There is a human species, but there is not a human race.
>>29218666
>i wanna pop out 8 kids but i also want to work a minimum wage job
>the man is keeping me down with capitalism revolution when?
>>29216565
I also agree :^)))
>>29218756
So? Germans are genetically closer to other Germans than they are to people of any other white nationality, ergo there is no white race by your logic.
>>29218781
Yeah and if you get really autistic, nothing means anything!
Fuck off.
>>29216805
>lying to people on 4chan
Kys Bernie loving faggot
>>29218219
>>29218258
>>29218307
>>29218480
>liberal intellectuals
>>29218800
No, you fuck off.
The 'white race' is just as arbitrary and artificial a concept as the human race.
>>29218831
Well our "arbitrary" concept works pretty well, so I say we keep it. Meanwhile your "human race" concept kills people and cultures.
>>29218712
>>29218723
So in the hypothetical case that we are under an alien attack blacks won't fight alongside whites and asians and some other shit?
Also, separating communities like that, what about people who belong to more than one race/nationality? What about international scientists working together and sharing their discoveries and achievements?
>>29218831
>words are just arbitrary artificial concepts
>so is logic
>so is everything
Which system will allow me to own a small house, a car, and go out drinking on weekends while working 40 hours a week?
Capitalism seems to be based on a false promise of these things. You cannot afford to live comfortably without working too much to live comfortably.
>>29218831
humans are a species that can interbreed. that's not arbitrary you retard.
also it's pretty stupid that you think arbitrary divisions of continuous differences can't have meaningful correlations but whatever
>>29218854
>So in the hypothetical case that we are under an alien attack blacks won't fight alongside whites and asians and some other shit?
lmao
>Also, separating communities like that, what about people who belong to more than one race/nationality?
They'll be outcasts. It's unfortunate, but that sort of thing shouldn't be encouraged.
>What about international scientists working together and sharing their discoveries and achievements?
We've always done that. You don't have to mix two cultures for one to share with another. See also: trade.
>>29218880
Well, the European communist states managed to do that at some point
>>29218369
Are you fucking stupid or just a digusting slimer leeching off the EU? No westerner with a spine would say that about free speech. People are getting kicked out of homes to make way for these rapefugees while the gov censors it. Do the planet a favour and end yourself and your subhuman views
>>29218852
>muh kulchur
Why are people so protective of their stupid traditions?
>>29218920
>see also: trade
So, what happens when a group in their own portion of the globe runs out of basic resources? What will they do?
>>29218946
Never understood what's the big deal with traditions. They don't define us, they are stupid and, in some cases, even outright horrifying (see: islam)
>>29218946
Without a common identity, humans have a hard time banding together to defeat a common enemy. Groups of people with little culture are easily overrun, so evolution has selected against them.
>>29218958
Conquer another country and take their resources.
>>29218718
i meant largely homogeneous populations, obviously
>>29218946
Because we are social animals.
It brings unity and stability.
>>29218831
>arbitrary concept
Kek at this fucking autistic 12 year old. So when's your next "gamers for communism" meeting?
>>29218946
Because it's part of what defines us collectively and individually.
How boring would the world be without differnt cultures?
Fuck you and your globalist, capitalist agenda to homogenise everyone and enstate your culture: the culture of greed and consumerism.
How can you spit in the face of your ancestors like that?
>>29216345
If I don't have the right to destroy an entire factory that employs thousands of people and feeds many more just because I don't get an arbitrary number someone told me I deserve to get my votes then what rights do I have?
>>29219010
So perpetual war? You really think this is the way for society to advance?
>>29219054
Animals compete over resources, and as the resources become more limited the competition becomes more violent. No system of government will change this.
>>29218991
That's an ideology. Islam is a doctrine for degenerate animals infesting Europe
>>29219036
Are you that dumb that you think that people who reject white supremacy are communists?
There is no "white race" you stupid uneducated redneck rube. White people have been fighting and killing each other for centuries.
You're obviously American so you have no concept of culture but come to the continent and tell a German, a Spaniard and an Englishman that they're the same. The EU is trying to do that and it's not working out.
Also, just FYI, I know some pretty racist communists.
>>29219039
>How can you spit in the face of your ancestors like that?
Which ancestors? Hitler? The ones who killed thousands based of who their imaginary friend was? The ones who thought it's a good thing to put men in chains to work on their plantations? Tell me, which ones?
>>29218697
mote like to keep peace and order and supress violent individuals such as liberals, berniefags, communists.
quite literally your kind has pushed so many to /fas/.
pat yourselves on tge back you violent cunts.
>>29219131
The ones that built the world you see around you.
The ones that fought tooth and nail so that you could have a chance at life.
Those ancestors.
>>29219126
You can spout all the reasoning you want, but I know for a fact that I and plenty of other white people would prefer to be around germans, spaniards, and englishmen rather than blacks, indians, and chinese.
There's no absolute cutoff for whiteness, but you can't deny that people prefer to be around similar people rather than different ones.
>>29219069
Our resources don't need to be limited. We have a lot of everything.
>>29219167
since when is Varg a robot?
>>29219195
All resources are limited.
>>29216833
D I S C A R D E D
oregano
>>29219167
No, they did that for themselves, maximum for 2 generations after. Or to please their imaginary friends. No Roman ever thought about a little cunt on /r9k
>>29219237
Enjoy your alienation and anomie, I guess!
>>29219177
Most Americans would rather be around black Americans than white Germans or Englishmen.
>>29219054
It's IS the way we advance, the way we advanced and basically, you are fucking stupid. Conflict equals progress. War forces societies to anticipate and compete. Why did the nuclear era started? Where does our rocket technology come from?
>>29219254
so says the jew
ive been around niggers and spics. i rather hang around with whites and chinks.
>>29219254
That's unfortunate if it's true, but I doubt it is.
>>29219291
>>29219285
What's wrong goyim? Don't you like diversity?
>>29219039
>How can you spit in the face of your ancestors like that?
I can never relate to this. My ancestors came to the US illegally through Canada because potatoes and accomplished nothing remarkable. The only thing I get from them is an addictive personality and glorification of alcoholism.
Fuck ancestors.
>>29219329
Ba(Z)ing
>>29219340
>The only thing I get from them is an addictive personality and glorification of alcoholism.
And being alive.
>>29218946
Because you globalists are trying to create the United States of Europe.
Brexit will happen.
The EU will fall.
Trump will make America great again.
Deal with it, jew.
>>29219370
>And being alive.
I'll let you know that I descend from a long line of men who busted a nut inside women. What have your ancestors done?
Let me see if I got this right:
Ancap/lolbertarians are correct when regarding economic choices, as free market """"""tends"""""" towards quality, but they fail miserably in the real world where they have to deal with politics as well as the economy. They can't understand that in order for a system to work, the people must want it to work, like how Healthcare works in the UK but not the US.
They don't care about living conditions, education, safety standards, well being, health or rights, just money, yes?
>>29219464
About the same thing, but at least I have the courtesy to thank them.
>>29219272
They were only used for good after the wars ended and humanity realised how stupid war is (well, they forgot pretty soon, but that's another story). Armed conflict equals only death and suffering. It only creates progress after the wars are ended and the technology created to massacre innocents is actually put to good use. Nuclear bombs vs nuclear energy. Intercontinental missiles vs space rockets
>>29219554
Wars get rid of surplus men, and death and suffering keep people from going soft. Unpleasant =/= bad.
>>29216345
Capitalism only works for the rich
>>29219472
Basically.
The final end goal of libertarianism is a new feudalism.
>>29219596
I'm poor and it works for me. You don't need much money to have a good life.
Well if they want to maintain their NEET lifestyle than they probably shouldn't support capitalism, but a lot of them strangely do, myself included.
>>29219640
English is not my first language, but is feudalism basically "a class system"?
>>29219595
The only major death and suffering today's mankind can suffer is by the hands of capitalists or fascists (including isis here, given the fact that isis is a religious fascist movement)
>death and suffering keep people from getting soft
and they need to be hardened in the face of what? if mankind just put their arbitrary differences (nationality, race, religion etc) to rest, who do they need to be hardened against?
>>29219554
>It only creates progress after the wars are ended and the technology created to massacre innocents is actually put to good use.
You are literally using a subjective definition for progress. Why.
>>29219039
>How can you spit in the face of your ancestors like that?
>muh ansesturs
Who gives a shit? They're dead.
>>29216719
Washington wrote to congress after he left the presidency specifically warning them to NOT make political parties.
>>29219710
Because making progress in the sense of making new and better ways to kill other people is not a progress which benefits the future generations. Modifying that progress to make it actually useful in advancing science does. And the sparks of progress don't only come from war. Well, have it your way, how do you define progress?
why should the many support a system that only benefits the few.
>>29216805
Democratic socialists are cancer though. Look at Europe.
>>29219776
They do it hoping that they, one day, will become the few. The 'murican dream bullshit
the issue isn't so much capitalism but the notion of competition.
people stepping over each other to get to the top,
this happens with or without capitalism.
>>29219797
And unregulated capitalism is cancer. Look at USA
>>29219703
>90% of mankind puts aside their differences
>gets soft, forgets what war is like
>gets absolutely wrecked by the 10% that didn't do this
This is basically what's happening in europe.
>>29216345
if communism is so good, then where the hell is the USSR?
>>29218946
>Why are people so protective of their stupid traditions?
>t. Schlomo Bergenstein Bilderblatt
>>29219797
>Look at Europe.
>just look at it
>i mean really, are you kidding me? Look at it guise!
>there is crime!
>some people are brown
>not like capitalist america
All b8 aside, what the hell are you even referring to when people say this?
Not hyperbole and news from /pol/ and Sargonof Akkad, I mean real tangible numbers.
>>29219838
>USA
>unregulated
top kek
>>29219850
The USSR weren't communists. They perverted marxism. This is why they failed
>>29219863
No freedom, brown immigrants, no freedom to criticize said immigrants.
>>29219850
as paradoxical as it sounds, I feel communism could only be truly achieved through a eugenics program.
>>29219838
>USA
>Capitalism
USA is corporatism, not capitalism.
>>29219863
>I mean real tangible numbers.
The millions of muslims coming into Germany for example. Women getting spit on for wearing too revealing clothes by these barbarians.
You will hang for your treacheries against your own people some day you know.
>>29219869
The regulated stuff comes from "democratic socialism". Without those, it would be even more survival fighting than it is now
>>29219877
>duuuu USSR wasnt real communism
so hows north korea going?
>>29219921
I don't get it, are you arguing for or against socialism?
>>29219916
>usa is corporatism
just capitalism lvl 2
>>29219903
>No freedom
>muh freedom mufuggas
This phrase is used my americans somethign soemthing lack of understanding.
When will americans learn that "listen to muh freedoms" is the same argument as "listen to muh feelings"? They mean nothing on a large scale and just serve to make you upset.
>brown immigrants
:^D
>people are unironically lolbertarians
And I thought communists were delusional
>>29219916
>The millions of muslims coming into Germany for example. Women getting spit on for wearing too revealing clothes by these barbarians.
Did he, or did he not say "no hyperbole"?
>>29219703
> they need to be hardened in the face of what? if mankind just put their arbitrary differences (nationality, race, religion etc) to rest, who do they need to be hardened against?
Against anything that oposses their will.
Against overpopulation, against deadly, new diseases, against lack of resources etc.
Also, it seems that you think that every human being is able to "put their arbitrary differences appart", which is fucking unrealistic. You should consider suicide if you truly believe this. If not, it is a really entertaining imagination exersice,anon. But remember that you are living in THE CURRENT YEAR, and human nature doesn't work this way.
>>29219930
I'm saying that without socialist influences murica would be a slavemaster's paradise
>>29219982
>no hyperbole
Its sadly not a hyperbole, I wish it was.
And with displacement levels at record height, more will come.
>>29219959
Let me explain then, since you don't know what freedom is.
>I can say nigger
>I can own guns and carry them to defend myself
>I don't have to pay a tax on my TV
>I can burn trash in my backyard if I want to
>I can fuck with my car however I want, and it never has to pass an emissions test
>If someone tries to break into my house, I can legally kill them
The list goes on. Sorry you never got to experience any of this.
>>29220007
>still no facts nor numbers anywhere
>just stuff he found in youtube comment sections and /pol/ shitposting
>>29219987
Well yeah, i'm being idealistic here. It's also why i think that a global-scale threat not created by humans is the only salvation for mankind
I used to be libertarian. I'm defnitley not a communist but I can't be libertarian because I'm on neetbux and support neetbux. I would vote for whoever gives me more neetbux.
>>29220041
>>still no facts nor numbers anywhere
Figures, I have to google stuff for you you dumb lazy nigger
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/08/germany-on-course-to-accept-one-million-refugees-in-2015
So yea, a million in just 2015 alone, more will come and this is only to Germany. KYS.
>>29216565
Daily reminder that Fascism is just the right wing equivalent of what SJWs advocate.
And we all know societies trend with time in that direction.
In short, Fascism helped fast-track the modern zeitgeist.
>>29220040
>I can say nigger
And? We all can. I just don't yell it on street corners to "express my freedom" like a child wanting atention.
>I can own guns and carry them to defend myself
I also enjoy not being shot at schools.
>I don't have to pay a tax on my TV
>But I also have to watch adverts constantly, and I have no control over what occurs on TV becuase it's privately ran
>I can burn trash in my backyard if I want to
Same
>I can fuck with my car however I want, and it never has to pass an emissions test
>Fuck everyone els,e my feeli- um, freedoms come first!
>If someone tries to break into my house, I can legally kill them
>the state can't execute people for trespassing (((((((DEPENDING ON THE STATE))))) bu the people can.
What a wonderful world.
>>29220105
Unbelievably cucked. You deserve everything you get.
>>29220139
Any arguments?
>>29220181
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>>29220074
>figures I have to defend my argument myself
>wow, this other sure is stupid he won;t even argue for me
OK lets see, 1 million immigrants in a nation of 80 million
So, 1.25% are immigrants.
And that is why socialism has fucked the entire EU, and capitalism, like in the US is better in every-way: because 1.25% of Germany is immigrants.
And this ISN'T hyperbole to you?
>>29220139
Dont worry, the day of the rope is coming soon for these degenerates.
>>29220139
>he memed at me lads
>what the fuck do I do now?
>>29220139
>The average libertarian argument when faced with opposition
Also, roads
>>29220139
Fucking libertarians cunts. Under anarcho-libertarianism (the only one who can give MAXIMUL FREEDOM) if I fuck your 6 yo daughter, kill her and then kill you and your entire family, i get a free pass. Do you think this is how a society is supposed to behave?
>>29219924
>North Korea
>marxism
top kek. See Juche ideology and how they erased any mentions of marxism-leninism from the society
>>29220211
>because 1.25% of Germany is immigrants.
You are retarded.
>Germany already had a significant muslim population (5.5% a few years ago)
>They breed way faster
>This is only the beginning like I said
>Muslims cause a disproportionate amount of disturbance, see pic related.
Socialism also sucks for many more reasons besides immigration policies though. There are too many to list here, but you are probably a retarded Swede so it wouldn't make sense to you anyway.
>>29219764
>Because making progress in the sense of making new and better ways to kill other people is not a progress which benefits the future generations.
Why not? Kill people=/=bad
pic related
>Modifying that progress to make it actually useful in advancing science does.
Again, you are using another subjective meaning. In this case for the word "useful"
>And the sparks of progress don't only come from war.
This is true. They come from CONFLICT and war is a form of organized conflict that involves groups of individuals for different reasons.
>Well, have it your way, how do you define progress?
a movement toward a goal or to a further or higher stage.
>>29220290
>>This is only the beginning like I said
I should have added this for the cucks here who still dont get it
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6793/germany-20-million-muslims
>>29220290
[citation needed] for that picture, brah.
slapping together an infographic with no real hard evidence is pretty pointless.
well, it's not pointless i guess, because there's plenty of dumb weenies with confirmation bias out there.
>>29216345
Commies and anarchists are the most worthless, disgusting parasites on this planet. Thank God your batshit retarded worldview is almost universally discarded after college when your brain is fully matured.
>I le just read le Karl Marx in my le Sociology 101 class at my community college and I am now a le communist
KILL YOURSELF
>>29220373
>[citation needed]
>T-This can't be true! What can I do?
>Oh I know! I'll just use "Le citation needed" may may like they taught me on r3ddit xD
>>29220315
You do know that in the end of the movie (don't know about the book, sry) Ender was tricked into destroying a race and made peace with them, right?
Yes, kill people = bad because we should rise beyond our primal nature. This is why we are not in caves anymore
Useful = being used to make life better, to cure diseases, create more food, travel to other planets etc. You know, things that benefit everyone
>they come from conflict
How did Newton's law come from conflict? How about Hawkins's research? shall I go on?
>a movement toward a goal
Well that goal should not be killing innocents
>>29220407
He's right though, you can't just claim statistics without a source.
Regardless of whether or not Muslims are a blight on any society, which they are. Even Buddhists can't fucking stand Muslims.
>>29220453
>Yes, kill people = bad because we should rise beyond our primal nature. This is why we are not in caves anymore
>if you kill your enemies, they win.
>>29220464
>He's right though
Holy shit you guys are lazy. Its really not that hard to google the demographics of a country. I hate redditors like you so much.
>>29220486
And because of retards like you who get a boner when they see a gun and who jack off at videos of WW2 the society is fucked
>>29220407
>>29220492
>le everyone i don't like is from reddit may may
>>29220492
>IT'S YOUR FAULT I DIDN'T LIST MY SOURCES ON MY INFOGRAPH!!
>reddit reddit REDDIT YOU'RE FROM REDDIT REEEEE
Just put your sources on your image next time, no reason to have a chimpout my friend.
>>29220538
Moralcuck
Why the FUCK can't /pol/ just stay on goddamn /pol/
IF YOU GIVE A SHIT ABOUT POLITICS YOU ARE NOT A ROBOT AND DO NOT BELONG ON THIS FUCKING BOARD
>>29220552
to put things into perspective
when bronies got their own board they stuck to themselves,
let that sink in
bronies are more well behaved then poltards.
>>29220552
This.
Robots don't care about society or its future one way or another. The only people who do care are those with a stake in the world.
If you have one, you are not a robot.
>>29220538
>I may have had the power to stop the rapists who broke into my house and fucked my prepubescent daughters and wife until they bled, but at least I did not use violence to get my way, and I am therefore the better person.
>>29220542
>>le everyone i don't like is from reddit may may
You know as well as I do that redditors made the le citation needed may may famous.
>>29220550
Look lazy nigger, I dont care if you dont believe the picture or not (it isn't even mine kek, idiot) but if you have nothing of value to add stfu.
>>29220587
>>29220552
>you are not a robot.
the fuck does that even mean anymore?
>>29220552
>/pol/ are anti-capitalist commies
It's like you've never been there or something.
Or are you the OP and are ass inflamed that /r9k/ didn't side with your asinine communist fucktardery?
>>29216345
A free market capitalistic system is the best system ever devised of by man with a proven record of success. Why should we change that for socialism/communism? Once you give power to the government, it always expands and grows, it never shrinks or stays the same.
Socialism is just the prelude to communism and both are worse than capitalism. It doesn't even fix the problems you claim to want to fix, it just makes it state sanctioned and makes the government and the people in power have the power to control the country instead of just a business.
>>29220606
>Look lazy nigger, I dont care if you dont believe the picture or not (it isn't even mine kek, idiot) but if you have nothing of value to add stfu.
You must be underaged. If you don't have actual stats to back up your arguments, you are no better than the liberals on Facebook who share blatantly false information and mis-attribute quotes. That's not how being an intellectual works - you need hard facts grounded in the scientific method. Otherwise you're just bullshitting. And as I said I agree with you mudslimes are cancer. But you can't just assert things without proof, if you want to be truly effective and have your argument taken seriously.
>>29220647
>Government
Socalism simply means the worker means to production.
The CNT under the spanish revolution where able to form a socalist nation without a government.
>>29220665
LMAO please stop talking to me mr Intellectual, holy shit.
>>29220374
Not an argument wage slave
>>29220692
Originiel
>>29220269
Major corporations would have security forces that enforce the laws that the rich decide on. And there would be no due process or any of that. They'd just shoot you in the street. Death squads killing criminal vermin.
>>29220711
>only capitalism is allowed to have markets
Randbabbies need to gtfo
>>29216805
You shpuld change your name to Proud Failed Economics Major. You really should.
>>29220740
>Death squads killing criminal vermin.
so basically life like it is in Brazil?
>>29220705
And that's the end of the argument right there.
When you get older and have a fully developed adult mind, you'll get it. Later.
>>29218018
Anon, sharing resources for the common good isn't in human nature. If I told you to go fishing, and your family is hungry, you'd probably go. But would you let me then take your fish and distribute them for the common good? Probably not.
I won't say I know of a better solution, but capitalism's end goal is the death and collapse of western civilization. We're in China's hands now.
>>29220711
https://youtu.be/pI6a7WySFsU?list=PLw7ewOoq0Z4u9G2gn4gJ-uXLH6c_6kmFD
Oh dear that's a lot of non arguments
>>29218219
>Mfw communism will never come ANYWHERE near capitalist countries in human development
W E W L A D
>>29218416
You can't get hit by a sound. But I appreciate the fact here; capitalism doesn't hit you, but communism is like being hit with a rock.
>>29218480
This is only because they repressed and starved minorities (Ukrainians died at almost twice the amount to Jews during the second World War due to food shortages and due to reckless tactical use as suicide bombers).
>>29220790
>And that's the end of the argument right there.
Perfect! Just like my pic at >>29220407 predicted.
>>29218500
Let me tell you why this is wrong; I'm from New Jersey, and it's a majority democrat state. The problem is, the big pharmas that were once here in force are leaving, because in order for the democrat's policies to be paid for, there needed to be heavy taxes on corporations. Also, Atlantic City went bankrupt as a result of democrats raising wages too high for government employees; and, these same idiots are now asking for a bailout, which, thankfully, Christie won't give them.
>>29218664
Staying rich is where the rich have to work. You can't recklessly spend and expect to maintain your wealth (of course, if you have no kids or family to give your money to after you die, fuck that).
>>29221026
>Staying rich is where the rich have to work
Oh boo hoo, how arduous putting all those millions in an index fund with a click of a button must be!
I agree. Some of what leftists said about capitalism before they became focused only on White genocide was true. Capitalism makes people decadent and weak so they can be domesticated (see the boomers ). In the former Soviet Union sodomites are shut down and they don't invite shitskins. If you're home is on a mortgage, then Jews literally own your home.
>>29220978
I said statistically, which means by a large majority. You gave me individual cases. Also, I did not say that the democrats are right, just that overwhelming majority of republicans have a lower IQ, which have no link to your individual cases
>>29218666
Kids don't have to pay for it. Make it so that corporations have to pay for it.
>gotta post with text
>>29216345
We would literally be living like African tribesmen without it, if you don't like fucking goats and drinking piss then just shut the hell up
>>29220407
>>29220898
>using ad hominems because you cant handle the idea of needing to have some sort of grounds for your claims
Bump. Still looking for answers, especially from lolbertarian and ancap faggots.
>>29220552
Most failures can't accept that their genetics and upbringing is why they are where they are. So they come up with boogie-men to blame it all on. It's the jews, mexicans, niggers, feminists, men, whites, capitalists, socialists, and what have you. Just someone else that isn't you that you can blame all your problems on. Once they're gone their life will be so much better.
So I wouldn't say that they aren't robots, they certainly are. However they're the garbage tier robot that isn't self aware.
I'd say any self aware robot (and not a failed normie or cyborg) is a pessimistic leftist. You know you're never gonna get a good income so what does it matter if the tax is high. It doesn't matter if blacks get the benefits too because ultimately what matters is what benefits you get.
>>29218144
is this why they voted for $hillary?
Modern life is shit because of capitalism, the profit motive is the antithesis of freedom in any kind of collective sense because it removes the ability for one to do what he wants for the sake of it, you are forced to do things that you don't want to do and that you wouldn't need to do in order to make a living. Freedom in a strictly individual sense is the freedom of the autocrat. The highest manifestation of freedom that can be experienced by an individual is to live in a society founded on the principle of freedom. Only in a free society will the relations between people be genuine, will we be able to burst the chains of meaningless consumerism and meaningless work and meaningless interactions that make up our meaningless lives.
Death to the bourgeoisie, the state and to all constituted authorities. The creation of a meaningful life necessitates the destruction of all bureaucracies and all inhibitions of the human spirit.
Down with the concentration of power!
Long live a libertarian /r9k/!
>>29222362
Ancap here. What do you need to know about economics? I'll answer your questions.
>>29224861
In the long run the only viable option is ethnocentric fascism. I'm no pol fag but history and common sense show that ethnic communities existing in isolation succeed in terms of stability. A cooperative but minimalist international community made up of sovereign nations is our best bet as they respect racial boundaries but allow for international cooperation
>>29225063
stability is a meme
we have stability now and it's shit, I don't want to live in a Huxleyan "utilitarian paradise". I want liberty more than anything.
>>29225110
So whats your ideal world? Ayn Rand meets Mad Men? Definitely fun but would it really solve the great challenges of our age? I say this as a conservative of necessity
>>29224861
>it removes the ability for one to do what he wants for the sake of it, you are forced to do things that you don't want to do and that you wouldn't need to do in order to make a living
no one is forcing you to work though? you can make your own food and build your own house, you just need to purchase some land and materials for construction. or was your point that freedom is forcing others to give you their land and materials without compensation?
>>29225211
the 1936 anarchist revolution in Spain is the closest we've come to what I want
>>29225232
Yes anon, real freedom requires expropriating the expropriators. Property rights are fiction.
>>29225284
so you want the government to take property from others by force to give to you, interesting.
if you abolish property rights, how are you planning to survive after other people take your food?
>>29225256
I like you, you actually have real human ideas instead of memes. I just skimmed through the wikipedia for the revolution, sounds like ethnocentric capitalism sans the corruption. Am i right?
>>29225347
No, I want those who work in a workplace to take the workplace from others and run it themselves. There's a difference between private and personal property. There should be no private property to facilitate a limitless amount of personal property to each, so far as it's possible.
>>29225366
anarcho-syndicalism it's called, some say that it's worker-managed capitalism, but worker management meant socialism until the rise of the USSR.
>>29225408
>No, I want those who work in a workplace to take the workplace from others and run it themselves
no one is stopping you from starting your own workplace
you said property rights, not private property
just so we are clear then, you don't want people to be able to own a house? what would be the motivation to create a house rather than live in one already created? do you mean we should all sleep in hammocks? also, a lot of medical equipment requires actual buildings, the same goes for a lot of services that would seem to be bad to do without
>>29225576
If you're looking to find systematic ways to motivate people to do things they wouldn't have done otherwise then there's no freedom in the doing of it. If I do start my own workplace, it relies on customers and I lose my individual freedom there.
>>29225611
so you don't want houses and hospitals and internet and factories and farms? these all require rights to the land or people would walk in and dig up your crops or commandeer your factory.
in what system would your workplace function without trading with other people?
>>29225408
The PG TLDR of Atlas Shrugged is that we work for and with one another out of respect and ambition in equal portions. I know its a meme book but the woman was right on a good few things. The problems arise when a load of unemployable "people" flood the country. All of a sudden you're working to feed yourself, your family, and a family of incompetents.
>>29225789
There would be farms, factories, hospitals etc but they would be run collectively. There would be a workplace who would send an instantly re callable delegate to the syndicate, the syndicate would delegate to the federation etc
but if houses and hospitals and so on couldn't exist freely then I would be against them
>>29225866
>There would be farms, factories, hospitals etc but they would be run collectively.
these would not be created if you removed any motivation for creating them.
>There would be a workplace who would send an instantly re callable delegate to the syndicate, the syndicate would delegate to the federation etc
what exactly do you mean by this? again, even if there was a workshop (which there wouldn't be because no one has any reason to make it), what is stopping people from taking control and using it for their own purposes?
and if don't want any infrastructure whatsoever, what if there's a group of people who do want to own the land and take it by force? who is enforcing these rules you have provided? cops without guns or cars or roads or phones? what is your plan exactly when another nation of people invades your ideal society?
>>29216345
agreed. fuckin preach senpai
>>29226020
I keep having to explain this to you but if something is not possible without being shit then it's just shit and shouldn't exist. Thankfully history would suggest that it is possible to run things like I said. If you think you need a reason to do something outside of wanting to do that thing then you're basically asking for slavery, or at least wage-slavery which is only renting instead of owning.
>>29216805
>6'1"
>165 lbs
Not a lot of food in Minsk, huh?
I agree. National Socialism is best socialism.
>>29216345
mixed capitalism is better than any alternative atm
sometime in the future we'll have a neet paradise that will eventually be invaded by the normies, but for now we have to live with what we've got
>>29226123
Racially exclusive communities are the only communities that benefit from socialism
>>29216345
Get out commie filth.
OP, they have to know what capitalism means to agree.
>>29226192
Enjoy having big corporations exploit you, flood your country with immigrants (cheap labour), and destroy your environment.
>>29216345
Capitalism has done more to advance societal economies around the world than any other system. It has provided you with the wealth to buy a computer and shitpost right now. And now here you are, dick in hand, criticizing it. Salty about not getting a fucking job? Don't major in women's studies. Sack the fuck up, contribute something to society, or find a way to make the system work.
>>29216805
Kys commie skeleton
>>29226241
Enjoy Jamal's dick in your significant other.
>>29226241
Corporate consolidation is exacerbated by state power (regulatory capture). You'd know this if you weren't retarded.
>>29226275
I'm a National Socialist, you idiot.
>>29226091
the incentives for doing these thing are intrinsic. you must get food or you're going to die, same with water, antibiotics, shelter, etc. your philosophy is to describe this as slavery and essentially kill yourself on principle?
your society would die of starvation, or best case scenario 1-2% of your population would survive and die to infections, diseases, and childbirth.
maybe we could work together to improve the quality of life? I mean we've doubled life expectancy and the work required to survive is much lower than before. maybe several thousand generations from now we can create our own planets and and never want for anything, who knows? or we could all just give up and die so other people or lifeforms can take our place. absurd
>>29226288
Proof? Or is this just more Rothbardian rhetoric?
>>29226301
You're not going to go out and get all your food from the wilderness unless you want to, there are more efficient ways to do it. Not only is this an appeal to nature, it misses the point that property rights are not natural and are something imposed.
